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Nwolf
Europe always has to wait longer



at least we got 3DS ver earlier than the rest (except Japan)
La Volpe

OzzyOzrock wrote:

La Volpe wrote:

Any tips on how to deal with Toon Link's spammable boomerangs, bombs and arrows? I had a hard time dealing with one online, I was playing as Lucario.
That's his bread and butter for a bit, but I can see why it'd annoy a Lucario. Closest bet is getting close, though watch out for down-aerials at that point lolol.
I'll have to practice because I was never able to touch him.. I just let him build some damage on me and then I would abuse Lucario's passive.
NaomiMinette
I found this really interesting (character spoilers inside!)
If you switch skins on Bowser Jr., the other Koopalings are there. Even the announcer provides voices for them!
Bara-

Blazevoir wrote:

I found this really interesting (character spoilers inside!)
If you switch skins on Bowser Jr., the other Koopalings are there. Even the announcer provides voices for them!
This is known for quite some time
Just as Olimar - Alph
Also, there are alt costumes for Robin/Wii Fit Trainer/Lil Mac
Male-Female/Male-Female/Normal-Wire
NaomiMinette
I already knew about Robin, Wii Fit Trainer, and Lil Mac having those. And the reason why I used [box] tags was because the particular character that I mentioned wasn't announced on the official website prior to the launch.
Mianki
I haven't been able to play that much because of work but I've cleared Classic with 10 chars. And I've been playing For Glory 1 v 1. My records for that:
Matches played: 25
Matches won: 1
Matches lost: 24.

My god I suck at Smash. Mostly been playing For Glory with Lucina, Link, Greninja
Jarby
Finally able to play online. Add me, fuckers, I main Peach btw: 4897 6167 0433
Norbi
I got the game yesterday, been playing it a lot since then. My FC is in the list, if anyone wants to add me, just do it. I already have people added because of Pokémon X/Y.
-kevincela-

La Volpe wrote:

Any tips on how to deal with Toon Link's spammable boomerangs, bombs and arrows? I had a hard time dealing with one online, I was playing as Lucario.
Just use Captain Falcon

/runs
La Volpe

-kevincela- wrote:

La Volpe wrote:

Any tips on how to deal with Toon Link's spammable boomerangs, bombs and arrows? I had a hard time dealing with one online, I was playing as Lucario.
Just use Captain Falcon

/runs
Lmfao you made my day.
NaomiMinette
Professor Prinny
Hopefully there will be some GCN Virtual Console games in the future at least.
Unfortunately I kinda see why it's only compatible with Smash.
NaomiMinette
I'm just annoyed that they originally said it WOULD have compatibility with other Wii U/Wii games...

Well... anyway... so has any Wii U-specific modes been announced yet? I don't follow Miiverse all that much.
Nwolf
nope
NaomiMinette
Never again will I ever play Cruel Smash


Seriously, it's not worth it after this point ._.
Jindujun93

Blazevoir wrote:

Never again will I ever play Cruel Smash


Seriously, it's not worth it after this point ._.
This, oh so very much. I still haven't gotten that mile stone, I'm always dying after having killed 2~3 enemies.
blackenanan

Blazevoir wrote:

Never again will I ever play Cruel Smash


Seriously, it's not worth it after this point ._.
cruel smash is awful.... like ugh
NaomiMinette
For what it's worth (though I doubt it'll help), I used Ganondorf.
Jarby
The 4 KOs milestone isn't too hard to get with Shulk if you abuse his down B counter and play defensively for the most part. I initially tried it with Peach for a while by trying to spam side B from off the edge of the stage since they don't go after you, but it's still too risky.
Professor Prinny

Blazevoir wrote:

Never again will I ever play Cruel Smash


Seriously, it's not worth it after this point ._.
Makes me wonder what the highest score is in Cruel Smash so far.

Edit: Also, how do you unlock the 3rd challenge panel?
Jindujun93

Professor Prinny wrote:

Edit: Also, how do you unlock the 3rd challenge panel?
Get 60 milestones in total.
NaomiMinette

Professor Prinny wrote:

Holy shit, why didn't I think of that.

Well whatever. As I said, I'm officially through with Cruel Smash.

EDIT: I found this really interesting. Don't get your hopes up, though:

Professor Prinny

Jindujun93 wrote:

Professor Prinny wrote:

Edit: Also, how do you unlock the 3rd challenge panel?
Get 60 milestones in total.
That's what a lot of people have told me but I have 61 now and still no 3rd panel. Nvm, got it when I unlocked the Duck Hunt Dog.

Blazevoir wrote:

I found this really interesting. Don't get your hopes up, though:

8 player smash... That would be one hectic fight and "Choose a Mii" makes me think of the announcer as a playable character lol.
NaomiMinette
A majority of the Streetsmash Challenges can be cleared on its Practice mode, by the way.
Azure_Kite
A lot of the Youtube comments on there are talking about how good the Wii U's multiplayer experience will be. I lack the heart to tell them that Peer to Peer connections are going to cause the same problems people have had on the 3DS, unless Nintendo does some basic connection quality testing with clients. Which in turn will discriminate players based on connection quality unless there is no "better choice" of opponents.

And if they do that, then there really wasn't much of a reason to avoid doing that for the 3DS. Ah, fun times.
Jarby
I've had pretty reasonable latency playing online entirely with Japanese people, aside from a handful of sketchy matches. Local multiplayer will always trump it, of course, but I'm wondering how much better it will be to play with other Australians online for me.
NaomiMinette
Playing regionally should be (near) flawless, though of course it depends on the players' internet connections. I've pretty much had no issues playing with people in the US (just minor input delays, but that's about it).
Azure_Kite
I'm away from my 3ds, but do you have me in your friends list Jar?
Jarby
Doesn't seem like it, Azure. Send me it on skype or whatever later
NaomiMinette
So... one of my friends showed me this:

La Volpe
Lmao rekt.
Jindujun93
This is probably the best SSB4 kill I've seen so far.
NoHitter
Lost because of lag in Online. 0/10 will never attempt online play again.
Trash Boat
don't give up no hitter, find somebody near your location. it should work

Blazevoir wrote:

So... one of my friends showed me this:

lol what was Pac-Man damage ratio at that time?
NoHitter
Considering I main Ness... yeah it sucks.
I just die because the lag screws with my recovery. (PK Thunder is hard to land :()
4 - 4 is my record so far, and those loses were due to lag...
Lazulite
Anyone up for some battles 3ds version?
I main- Mii Fighter, Lucario, Lucina, Larry (Bowser Jr.), Robin, and Yoshi
Friend Code is - 0001-3826-0355
also can contact me via my skype -SpartanxGunnerx
Jindujun93

NoHitter wrote:

Considering I main Ness... yeah it sucks.
I just die because the lag screws with my recovery. (PK Thunder is hard to land :()
4 - 4 is my record so far, and those loses were due to lag...
As a fellow Ness mainer, I definitely feel for you. So far I had no lag at all whenever I played (and I did play a considerable amount of time online), but I know how frustrating it can be to have lag with him.
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Birdy
In 5 hours, if all goes according to the plan, I should have a copy of Super Smash Bros. in my backpack while travelling to a friend's house.

Awwww yisssss.
Trash Boat
what could be wrong?
Witch Mercy
Waiting for Black Friday to arrive and hopefully purchase a 3ds xl and the game.
NaomiMinette
NessuDessu
:? I only have the Super Smash Demo.... WAGHHH When do you guys think the SBB4 fever would die down so that I can buy it at a not "sold out" store?
Trash Boat
more like 420 months
NaomiMinette

NessuDessu wrote:

:? I only have the Super Smash Demo.... WAGHHH When do you guys think the SBB4 fever would die down so that I can buy it at a not "sold out" store?
Whenever the Wii U version comes out. (No, I'm not kidding.)
Lanturn
Last I heard the eShop has infinite supply, but I could just be going crazy.

I really want a N3DS now by the way ;_;
NessuDessu
Thanks for your advice, I guess I'll just wait until I save enough money or whenever... :(
NaomiMinette
I'll admit I forgot about the eShop as of my last post, but the fever... well... Let's just wait and see what the Wii U-specific modes are.
NessuDessu
I am willing to wait for a while,but for now I can just watch my friend play.... I also am surprised that Duck Hunt was included and excited that Ness was in SSBB4.
D33d
I finally have a 3DS and the new Smash, so if anyone fancies giving me some company, hit me up.
Topic Starter
Birdy
Quick poll:
Top 3 fighters?
Top 3 items?
Thoughts on Smash Run?
NaomiMinette
1) Lucario, Toon Link, and Dr. Mario
2) Master Ball, Ore Club, and Galaga Ships
3) Needs online multiplayer
Jarby
Top 3 fighters: Peach, Sheik and Villager.
Top 3 items: NO ITEMS ALLOWED (X bomb, bullet bill and the gust bellows are cool though)
Smash run thoughts: Probably won't play it once I unlock everything. Maybe it's better in multiplayer?
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Birdy

Jarby wrote:

Smash run thoughts: Probably won't play it once I unlock everything. Maybe it's better in multiplayer?
Yeah, it's kind of more fun in multiplayer, but then again everything is more fun in multiplayer. I kind of really like the mode either way.

My top 3 fighters would be Rosalina, Kirby and either Zero-Suit Samus or Shulk, and items would be Home-Run Bat, Ore Club and Beam Sword.

X Bomb indeed is fun, and Pokémon balls have always been a nice touch which makes Master Ball even cooler. For some reason, I feel like there's less variation for Pokémon and Master Ball Pokémon in this game, which has made it less exciting for me every time either of the balls appear. Not sure if that's just a gut feeling or if they've really cut down the palette of choices.
Norbi
Top 3 fighters: Zelda, Greninja, Pac-Man (I'd like to add Fox here as well, he was one of my mains since the very first Smash Bros. game. He still is at some point.)
Top 3 items: I'm not really an item player, but... Master Ball, Home-Run Bat and X Bomb.

Smash Run is fun, but probably would be better in multiplayer. Didn't have a chance to play with any of my local friends yet, totally needs online.
NoHitter
Fighters: Ness, Villager, Toon Link
Items: Same, I don't really play with items. On the top of my head though: Masterball, Smartbomb and Hammer
No idea what to comment amount Smash Run yet.
Professor Prinny
Top 3 Fighters: Robin, Ike, Shulk

Top 3 Items: Home-Run Bat, Ore Club and the Master Ball

As for Smash Run, I feel like 5 minutes collecting stuff is too long but overall it's enjoyable seeing your character so buffed up and blitzing across the map.
Lanturn
Top 3 Fighters: Peach / Jiggs / Iggy

Top 3 Items: Turnip, Mechakoopa, Bob-omb.. All I really play is for glory, and you can pick up all of these items through it :D

Smash Run: The events at the end are too short. ;_;
NaomiMinette
_Arzo_
Lanturn
Stream starts in an hour for the 50 facts about the Wii U version.

http://www.twitch.tv/nintendo

Let's hope we get the DLC everyone wants and more info about the leaked board game & stage creator modes.
Professor Prinny
Well that stream was satisfying.
NaomiMinette
Dammit... Aside from Mewtwo, all the other exclusive stuff is really nice, too (particularly Smash Tour...

...Eh, take my money, Nintendo >.>
Lanturn
Money has been taken.

Xander Mobus (Name of the announcer in smash bros and the video) was great.

Loved the Jr. / Koopalings video as well. Hopefully we get a cool Duck Hunt one too :D

Also. I'm glad we got DLC announced.. Opens up a lot more possibilities in the future :)
NaomiMinette
Makes me wonder what treatment the 3DS version will get once the Wii U version comes out, because it's gonna be really hard for me to go back to... well... the 3DS version.

Anyway, here's the video for those who missed the livestream:

Professor Prinny
"Someday... When I'm bigger... I wanna fight that Mario again!" - Bowser Jr. (Super Mario Sunshine)
NaomiMinette
Except he already did (to some extent) in Mario Kart 8 :P (but that's for another thread)

Anyway, I'm definitely gonna get an amiibo now (not just for this game, for the record).
Jindujun93
The one issue that I have though is that apparently you NEED to buy both versions to actually be able to download Mewtwo from what I've read. Mind you that I only read a summary and didn't watch the stream, but I'm trusting the summary for now. Oh dear...
NaomiMinette
SPOILER
There's probably gonna be an option where you don't need to buy both but will have to pay for a DLC pack or something when more characters come out. Just a guess.
La Volpe

Blazevoir wrote:

Makes me wonder what treatment the 3DS version will get once the Wii U version comes out, because it's gonna be really hard for me to go back to... well... the 3DS version.

Anyway, here's the video for those who missed the livestream:

@ 6:59 "Hey it's princess Peach" "Guess she's taking a break from getting kidnapped." Lmfao made my night. Also the 8 players mode is interesting but i'm scared to play it online because of lantency issues.
Professor Prinny

La Volpe wrote:

Also the 8 players mode is interesting but i'm scared to play it online because of lantency issues.
They mentioned 8 Player Smash isn't available for online so you won't need to worry about it.
La Volpe

Professor Prinny wrote:

La Volpe wrote:

Also the 8 players mode is interesting but i'm scared to play it online because of lantency issues.
They mentioned 8 Player Smash isn't available for online so you won't need to worry about it.
Oh, thats good to hear then, sorry for not paying attention then. :p
Stefan
MEWTWO MEWTWO MEWTWO

/hypeoff
Topic Starter
Birdy
Nwolf
DLC confirmed = Ice Climbers and Wolf confirmed for the future






and HL3
Jindujun93

Nwolf wrote:

DLC confirmed = Ice Climbers and Wolf confirmed for the future

and HL3
Ice Climbers? Probably not, since they want to have the same roster for both games, and Sakurai already said that the Ice Climbers wouldn't work on the 3DS. So it only makes sense for them not to appear as a DLC either.
I don't really care about Wolf (heck, I don't even care about Mewtwo either, I'd rather prefer Isaac from Golden Sun. Even 5 slots for Pokemon was already too much in my opinion...), but he along with Lucas -might- be options.
NaomiMinette
Lucas might be a no-go since Ness' alternate Specials already use his moveset.
Topic Starter
Birdy

Nwolf wrote:

and HL3
Don't bring Valve in this shit.

I hope Wolf and Lucas are both no-gos. People are waiting for them too much from what I've seen. Also Pokémon Trainer.

Also please replace Lucario with Blaziken for the Wii U version, thanks.
NaomiMinette
You already know they won't do that to Lucario.

Anyway, here is the full list of things that were announced yesterday in case you don't wanna either watch the whole video or recap what was said.
Topic Starter
Birdy
I know. I know. I'm just way less excited about Mewtwo now that Lucario is a sure choice.
Nwolf
so people wanting them = nintendo should add a totally different character


makes sense
Topic Starter
Birdy
I dunno.

Would be cool to see the developers and directors to take the players' opinions in account for once.
NaomiMinette
Stefan

Blazevoir wrote:

But isn't that how we got Mewtwo...?

Charizard = me

literally
NaomiMinette
You and me both /o/
Topic Starter
Birdy
Don't leave me out, now. Don't get me wrong, either.
NaomiMinette
So I found this extremely hilarious: even if you get a squeaky Golden Hammer, if someone gets sent flying and you hit them with said hammer, the KO goes to you instead /o/ Not sure if this was ever since Brawl, but I just recently experienced that.
Jindujun93
Is it just me, or is the Pikachu / Mr. Game and Watch combo in team battles kind of broken? Have been falling victim to it quite a bit recently.
NoHitter

Jindujun93 wrote:

Is it just me, or is the Pikachu / Mr. Game and Watch combo in team battles kind of broken? Have been falling victim to it quite a bit recently.
Elaborate on this combo? I usually play 1 on 1 so it's the first I've heard of it.
Bara-

Blazevoir wrote:

So I found this extremely hilarious: even if you get a squeaky Golden Hammer, if someone gets sent flying and you hit them with said hammer, the KO goes to you instead /o/ Not sure if this was ever since Brawl, but I just recently experienced that.
So far, with 30 hours of battles, I haven't seen a single squeaky hammer
Also no broken normal hammer
Jindujun93

NoHitter wrote:

Jindujun93 wrote:

Is it just me, or is the Pikachu / Mr. Game and Watch combo in team battles kind of broken? Have been falling victim to it quite a bit recently.
Elaborate on this combo? I usually play 1 on 1 so it's the first I've heard of it.
In particular, it's about the fact that one Thunder from Pikachu is enough to completely fill Mr. Game and Watch's bucket, which in itself gets you KOs very easily (naturally, you'd have to play with rules that allow you to hurt your teammates). To see it in action, I recommend this video.

Also, while not related to this combo, I just found this little gem of a glitch.
NaomiMinette

baraatje123 wrote:

So far, with 30 hours of battles, I haven't seen a single squeaky hammer
Also no broken normal hammer
I've gotten squeaky Golden Hammers a few times and broken normal Hammers several times, though I usually play 30/60 minute matches, so...

EDIT: There's an update that supposedly balances the game, but I wonder if characters were affected.

EDIT 2: North Americans can get three posters from Club Nintendo.
Justykanna
Finally got around to playing for a bit today. Really enjoying the game - after getting used to the controls.
Don't have everyone unlocked yet, but my favourites are probably:
-Toon Link: Feels the same as before for the most part. Seems to recover from his throw a little quicker.
-Falco: His front-B and B feels like it goes a shorter distance, which annoys me a little.
-Kirby: Love him. Still not a fan of his front-B but that just means one less move to use.

Still haven't unlocked Ganandorf so I haven't been able to try him... looking forward to him and Lucina.
NaomiMinette
They partly gave his default Neutral B super armor.
Justykanna

Blazevoir wrote:

They partly gave his default Neutral B super armor.
Whose and... what's super armor? lol. I know close to no Smash-terminology.
NaomiMinette
Ganondorf.

Super Armor is a state in which your character can't flinch/get sent flying from any attack (Giga Bowser and Mega Lucario are perfect examples of this). The fact that Warlock Punch (Ganondorf's default Neutral B) is already so powerful is just... yeah...

The reason why I say partly is because that attack can still be interrupted.

EDIT: Interview with the announcer (LOUD INTRO WARNING!):

Justykanna

Blazevoir wrote:

Ganondorf.

Super Armor is a state in which your character can't flinch/get sent flying from any attack (Giga Bowser and Mega Lucario are perfect examples of this). The fact that Warlock Punch (Ganondorf's default Neutral B) is already so powerful is just... yeah...

The reason why I say partly is because that attack can still be interrupted.
Oh. Neat! I like! xD
NaomiMinette
Topic Starter
Birdy
"Collected every type of custom outfit! Your body is ready!"

I'm dying.
NaomiMinette
I saw that in a Nintendo Life article. Too bad those are just as annoying to get (if not, worse) than the custom specials >_>
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Birdy
Having played Online for the first time now, I need to say that I'm really sad about Online being absolutely broken. I wish it worked.
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