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Apocalyptica - Last Hope

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Topic Starter
pishifat

Natsu wrote:

To the next BAT double check timing
ha good luck with that

and thanks again natsu <3
riffy
Yoo, as requested.

[Easy]
  1. Try to drop OD by 1 tick. For newbies it may be quite hard to play with this timing, so lowering OD is a nice idea.
  2. 00:47:113 (1,2) - I would highly suggest moving its tail somewhere else as some newbies may mistakenly hit the tail. Try a simple pattern like that it looks okay, fits with your style and makes things more readable.
    Note: 00:57:728 (2,1) - same here. It is not a big deal, but some newbies just get stressed and click on whatever they see.

    Everything looks good. I like how playable it is even though the timing is insane.
[Normal]
  1. 00:59:141 (2,3) - minor - the transition feels a bit forced/unntarual. Probably, something like this would flow better.
  2. 01:49:160 (1,3) - the rule says that sliders must be readable. For a Normal diff, hiding the tail like this is a bit tricky, imo. I'd move the tail somewhere else to prevent any possible unranks problems.
  3. 02:40:758 (5) - not a fan of such sliders as the seecond repeat is totally unexpected and will trick players for sure. How about something like this? It will also make the last beat sorta special
[Hard]
  1. 02:11:785 (1) - just a little overlap with the HP Bar. Not a problem, but if you want stuff to look cool, move it down a bit. :)
Check this and call me back.


Natsu wrote:

To the next BAT double check timing
Oh, and we've discussed it with the mapper and it's all cool.
Topic Starter
pishifat
re

-Bakari- wrote:

Yoo, as requested.

[Easy]
  1. Try to drop OD by 1 tick. For newbies it may be quite hard to play with this timing, so lowering OD is a nice idea. lowered by half a tick. don't want a huge gap between easy and normal ODs
  2. 00:47:113 (1,2) - I would highly suggest moving its tail somewhere else as some newbies may mistakenly hit the tail. Try a simple pattern like that it looks okay, fits with your style and makes things more readable.
    Note: 00:57:728 (2,1) - same here. It is not a big deal, but some newbies just get stressed and click on whatever they see. i tried some stuff with these for a while and couldn't find anything that i liked at all. i wanted to keep the slidershapes between 1,2 on the first one different and the in order to space teh second one, i would have to change the direction it's pointing entirely and screw up every section following it. with a 2 beat gap between both of them i think even if they do panic and hit the tail, there could be enough time to notice that the tail is.. well a tail. approachcircles strong asdfasdf

    Everything looks good. I like how playable it is even though the timing is insane. awwyea
[Normal]
  1. 00:59:141 (2,3) - minor - the transition feels a bit forced/unntarual. Probably, something like this would flow better. that it does
  2. 01:49:160 (1,3) - the rule says that sliders must be readable. For a Normal diff, hiding the tail like this is a bit tricky, imo. I'd move the tail somewhere else to prevent any possible unranks problems. rip best pattern on a normal ever
  3. 02:40:758 (5) - not a fan of such sliders as the seecond repeat is totally unexpected and will trick players for sure. How about something like this? It will also make the last beat sorta special such a special circle i will cherish it forever
[Hard]
  1. 02:11:785 (1) - just a little overlap with the HP Bar. Not a problem, but if you want stuff to look cool, move it down a bit. :) cool is my number one priority #slidershapes
Check this and call me back.


Natsu wrote:

To the next BAT double check timing
Oh, and we've discussed it with the mapper and it's all cool. if you wanna get confirmation about timing and the storyboard from a qat that would probably be good. i dont want you to get in trouble or whatever happens because i convinced you they were rankable from this map.
riffy
Everything is re-checked. Looks cool and I am sure that we should be ready to go.
Myxo
Nice map <3 Congratz!
samplefish
Partayyyyy

Grats
Maruyu
gratz shibifag <3
Cerulean Veyron
Good song, Gz

pishipishi is not fag, yuzuyuzu :''c
hehe
wtf lol i totally did not forget to mod this
Nozhomi
Gratz !
Mao
Gratz <3 Also, is this oko's first ranked GD?
Topic Starter
pishifat

Mao wrote:

Gratz <3 Also, is this oko's first ranked GD?
yuuuuuuuuuuup

and thanks everyone :3
Asphyxia
Hey pishifat,

Need to disqualify this quickly due to (very confusing) spacing error in Hard difficulty, at 02:12:333 (2) - , probably moving the note to x:180 y: 56 would help. Otherwise really enjoyed this set, nice jobbu =v=

Ringating
rekt
Okoratu
small change that annoyed me about my diff if you can tell what i did u gud
osu file format v13

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Title:Last Hope
TitleUnicode:Last Hope
Artist:Apocalyptica
ArtistUnicode:Apocalyptica
Creator:pishifat
Version:oko's Insane
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Tags:cello thrash symphonic alternative metal worlds collide okoratu
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383,363,140058,1,0,0:0:0:0:
383,363,140141,1,0,0:0:0:0:
383,363,140224,6,0,P|320:362|256:334,1,97.9999970092774,6|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
192,256,140574,1,8,0:0:0:0:
75,283,140767,1,0,0:0:0:0:
133,158,140943,2,0,P|195:142|243:153,1,97.9999970092774,0|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
294,252,141286,2,0,P|231:267|183:256,1,97.9999970092774,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
228,148,141638,5,6,0:0:0:0:
296,62,141795,2,0,L|307:20,2,32.6666656697591,2|0|0,0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
313,84,142025,1,2,0:0:0:0:
322,105,142113,1,0,0:0:0:0:
329,127,142201,1,0,0:0:0:0:
331,150,142289,1,2,0:0:0:0:
330,173,142378,1,0,0:0:0:0:
325,196,142466,2,0,L|275:216,3,46.6666666666667,0|2|0|0,0:0|0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
228,148,142925,1,8,0:0:0:0:
228,148,143098,5,4,0:0:0:0:
256,192,143185,12,2,148358,0:0:0:0:
181,118,148708,5,8,0:0:0:0:
267,178,148906,1,0,0:0:0:0:
325,64,149105,2,0,B|373:82|391:144|391:143,1,83.9999974365235,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
402,255,149507,2,0,B|378:290|332:287|332:287|289:331|289:331|243:294|176:308,1,251.999992309571,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
100,231,150341,5,8,0:0:0:0:
194,170,150539,1,0,0:0:0:0:
134,53,150738,2,0,P|179:34|224:31,1,83.9999974365235,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
336,68,151136,1,2,0:0:0:0:
300,176,151337,1,0,0:0:0:0:
336,296,151538,2,0,P|297:336|176:327,1,167.999994873047,2|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
115,223,152154,85,0,0:0:0:0:
193,136,152348,1,8,0:0:0:0:
73,105,152542,1,0,0:0:0:0:
21,214,152754,2,0,B|20:253|45:315|107:324|107:324|144:312|144:312|158:338|202:342,1,251.999992309571,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
323,292,153562,5,8,0:0:0:0:
292,189,153754,1,0,0:0:0:0:
383,134,153946,2,0,P|369:84|330:40,1,83.9999974365235,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
240,52,154338,2,0,P|207:88|189:220,2,167.999994873047,2|2|8,0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
352,27,155359,5,0,0:0:0:0:
380,161,155549,1,8,0:0:0:0:
299,110,155739,1,0,0:0:0:0:
413,85,155945,2,0,B|457:113|469:156|455:199|455:199|483:244|483:244|454:317,1,251.999992309571,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
357,345,156731,85,8,0:0:0:0:
346,331,156928,1,0,0:0:0:0:
236,284,157125,1,8,0:0:0:0:
235,266,157322,1,0,0:0:0:0:
145,179,157518,2,0,P|165:135|183:114,1,70,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
306,56,157923,2,0,B|287:95|287:95|315:114|315:114|292:152|290:205,1,167.999994873047,2|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
240,288,158547,5,0,0:0:0:0:
132,334,158743,1,8,0:0:0:0:
153,212,158939,1,0,0:0:0:0:
40,249,159150,2,0,P|37:190|101:101,2,167.999994873047,2|2|8,0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
120,333,160164,6,0,P|151:295|172:236,2,83.9999974365235,0|8|0,0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
86,198,160758,1,8,0:0:0:0:
202,113,160956,1,8,0:0:0:0:
178,239,161154,1,8,0:0:0:0:
108,77,161352,1,8,0:0:0:0:

moved the slider at 1:40:011 up a bit by rearranging the previous slider - it was offscreen when playing a bit so this is better
Edit: redid a pattern
Topic Starter
pishifat
things happened and now map is k
Raiku
going to let someone else bubble this for a second opinion, feel free to continue mod/bubble
Mao
I guess I'll have a look at it then pretty soon!
Mao
Doublechecked everything and fixed something unrankable with the silenced Sliderslide and Sliderticks. Otherwise this set is pretty much great. Good luck!

Bubbled (ノ 'ω')ノ
Topic Starter
pishifat
maologs
2014-10-04 14:19 Mao: then I'll take a look at it right now :D
2014-10-04 14:19 pishifat: :o
2014-10-04 14:20 Mao: the mapset bugged my osu :D
2014-10-04 14:20 pishifat: "i'll look at it right now"
2014-10-04 14:20 pishifat: mao offline
2014-10-04 14:20 Mao: I've opened the map
2014-10-04 14:20 Mao: and wasn't able to press anything anymore
2014-10-04 14:20 pishifat: lol
2014-10-04 14:20 Mao: than there were some error warnings and I had to restart the game
2014-10-04 14:20 Mao: XD
2014-10-04 14:20 Mao: now it works :D
2014-10-04 14:21 Mao: you've fixed the unqualify reason?
2014-10-04 14:21 pishifat: of course
2014-10-04 14:21 pishifat: it was a distnace snap error -.-
2014-10-04 14:28 Mao: is that an unrank reason? o.o
2014-10-04 14:29 pishifat: i guess
2014-10-04 14:29 pishifat: well it was a pretty big difference
2014-10-04 14:29 pishifat: so you see 2 here https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/2101963
2014-10-04 14:30 pishifat: it looked like http://i.gyazo.com/9a30a8d30a50f6cfeeaa0d61656a420e.png
2014-10-04 14:30 pishifat: which i accidentally did right before rank or something
2014-10-04 14:30 pishifat: cuz i didnt even know it was like that
2014-10-04 14:35 Mao: so played through all diffs
2014-10-04 14:35 Mao: I'll have a look in the edit at them now
2014-10-04 14:35 pishifat: have fun
2014-10-04 14:35 Mao: and than check the RC
2014-10-04 14:35 pishifat: the timeline is unreadable
2014-10-04 14:36 pishifat: also what you mean check ranking criteria
2014-10-04 14:37 Mao: have a look at everything listed in the RC again
2014-10-04 14:37 pishifat: um
2014-10-04 14:37 pishifat: i will not quesiton then k
2014-10-04 14:47 Mao: did you make sure about the spacing in Easy because of all the timing sections? xD
2014-10-04 14:47 pishifat: yep
2014-10-04 14:47 pishifat: it is all "distance snapped"
2014-10-04 14:47 pishifat: meaning the 1 beat differences
2014-10-04 14:47 pishifat: are all the same distance visually
2014-10-04 14:47 pishifat: if they weren't it would be all over the place
2014-10-04 14:47 pishifat: so what i got was what the best option was
2014-10-04 14:48 Mao: ok
2014-10-04 14:48 Mao: I can't open Slidertick2 and Sliderslide2
2014-10-04 14:48 Mao: did you use the messed up silenced files?
2014-10-04 14:48 Mao: not the ones linked in the wiki we are supposed to use?
2014-10-04 14:49 Mao: the ones are also bigger than the ones we are supposed to use
2014-10-04 14:49 Mao: the normal ones are 44kb and these are 58kb o.o
2014-10-04 14:49 Mao: http://up.ppy.sh/files/blank.wav
2014-10-04 14:49 pishifat: seriously
2014-10-04 14:50 pishifat: i thought i replaced them
2014-10-04 14:50 pishifat: i mean i can but i dunno why they are broken even after i did that
2014-10-04 14:53 Mao: are you able to open them?
2014-10-04 14:55 pishifat: opens the same way as normal sliderslide
2014-10-04 14:55 pishifat: i dunno if sliderslide works for you or not
2014-10-04 14:56 Mao: http://puu.sh/bZnOT/16bd3d1cca.png
2014-10-04 14:56 Mao: An error occured while playing the file in Mediaplayer.
2014-10-04 14:56 Mao: Audacity doesn't play it either
2014-10-04 14:57 Mao: the one I've linked ya works perfectly fine
2014-10-04 14:57 pishifat: well they are now replaced
2014-10-04 14:57 pishifat: it all opens fine for me in vlc
2014-10-04 14:58 pishifat: (which is why i can't check what's broken :P)
2014-10-04 14:59 Mao: what is trash in the tags?
2014-10-04 15:00 pishifat: thrash lol
2014-10-04 15:00 pishifat: it's a genre
2014-10-04 15:01 Mao: ok
2014-10-04 15:01 Mao: xD
2014-10-04 15:01 Mao: wikipedia also says Apocalyptica's genre is called "Cello Rock"
2014-10-04 15:01 pishifat: yea
2014-10-04 15:01 pishifat: which si why cello is in tags :P
2014-10-04 15:02 Mao: didn't you add rock because it's already set toi genre?
2014-10-04 15:02 Mao: in the listing
2014-10-04 15:02 Mao: ?
2014-10-04 15:02 pishifat: wat
2014-10-04 15:02 pishifat: rock is in the listing
2014-10-04 15:02 pishifat: so not in tags
2014-10-04 15:02 pishifat: what you tlaking about
2014-10-04 15:02 Mao: yeah, that was my question
2014-10-04 15:02 Mao: okay
2014-10-04 15:04 Mao: ACTION is editing [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/482938 Apocalyptica - Last Hope [Easy]]
2014-10-04 15:04 Mao: 01:43:514 (1) -
2014-10-04 15:04 Mao: if I'm not mistaken this has silenced Sliderslide and Slidertick at the same time
2014-10-04 15:05 pishifat: hmm
2014-10-04 15:05 pishifat: perhaps it does
2014-10-04 15:05 pishifat: time to make a new sampleset
2014-10-04 15:05 pishifat: with silent slidertick
2014-10-04 15:05 pishifat: cuz if i use slidertick noise there it's not in sync with the song
2014-10-04 15:08 Mao: ACTION is editing [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/479348 Apocalyptica - Last Hope [Normal]]
2014-10-04 15:08 Mao: 02:04:380 (3) - same seems to happen here
2014-10-04 15:08 pishifat: and 02:21:638 (3) - in easy
2014-10-04 15:08 pishifat: you so bad
2014-10-04 15:08 Mao: it doesn't happen there in easy
2014-10-04 15:09 Mao: because of drum sampleset
2014-10-04 15:09 Mao: and only normal is silenced
2014-10-04 15:09 pishifat: hmm yes
2014-10-04 15:09 Mao: btw, we have to hurry
2014-10-04 15:09 pishifat: i meant to silence them tho
2014-10-04 15:09 Mao: I gotta go in a few minutes
2014-10-04 15:09 Mao: xD
2014-10-04 15:09 Mao: 20
2014-10-04 15:09 pishifat: lolk
2014-10-04 15:09 Mao: never ever silence slider and tick at once xD
2014-10-04 15:10 pishifat: the one in normal
2014-10-04 15:10 pishifat: pretty sure that one's fine since it's supposed to be a 1 beat slider
2014-10-04 15:10 Mao: it isn't
2014-10-04 15:10 Mao: the last tick isn't audible
2014-10-04 15:10 Mao: and the slidertick isn't as well
2014-10-04 15:10 Mao: which makes both silenced
2014-10-04 15:10 pishifat: the last tick shouldn't be there though
2014-10-04 15:10 pishifat: because it is a 1 beat slider
2014-10-04 15:10 pishifat: that is broken because of timing
2014-10-04 15:11 Mao: but it is
2014-10-04 15:11 Mao: hm
2014-10-04 15:11 Mao: but I dunno, would it be audible ingame if it isn't silenced?
2014-10-04 15:11 pishifat: yea it would
2014-10-04 15:11 pishifat: and it sounds really bad
2014-10-04 15:11 Mao: I mean it's a clearely stated rule that we aren't allowed to do it even if the tick shouldn't be there
2014-10-04 15:12 Mao: yeah, you can just silence the tick
2014-10-04 15:12 Mao: and keep the slide
2014-10-04 15:12 Mao: and turn the volume a bit lower
2014-10-04 15:12 pishifat: i guess
2014-10-04 15:12 pishifat: the thing is
2014-10-04 15:12 pishifat: i do that everywhere on hard/extra
2014-10-04 15:13 pishifat: so i will ask mr qat if it's k
2014-10-04 15:13 Mao: ok, then do this
2014-10-04 15:13 Mao: I'll ask some people as well
2014-10-04 15:13 Mao: but we won'tn get this done now
2014-10-04 15:14 Mao: I'll send a PM to Xinely
2014-10-04 15:14 Mao: that I've already checked it
2014-10-04 15:14 Mao: and going to bubble
2014-10-04 15:14 pishifat: mmk
2014-10-04 15:14 Mao: I'll try to catch KSHR tomorrow and talk to him
2014-10-04 15:15 pishifat: asphyxia's on right now, so i've asked him
2014-10-04 15:15 pishifat: waiting for responsezor
2014-10-04 15:15 Mao: but there are still other QATs
2014-10-04 15:15 Mao: and asking a manager won't hurt
2014-10-04 15:16 pishifat: makes sense
2014-10-05 12:55 Mao: btw, you have to fix it
2014-10-05 12:55 Mao: according to KSHR
2014-10-05 12:56 Mao: he said "delete the slidertick and just use 5% volume for them"
2014-10-05 13:02 pishifat: delete the slidertick
2014-10-05 13:02 pishifat: uh what
2014-10-05 13:03 Mao: he said 5% slidertick + silenced sliderslide is rankable
2014-10-05 13:03 Mao: but not using a silenced file for both at the same time
2014-10-05 13:03 pishifat: oh
2014-10-05 13:03 pishifat: well k
2014-10-05 13:13 Mao: hey why are people killing the surprise for pishi ;_;
2014-10-05 13:13 pishifat: what surprise
2014-10-05 13:13 pishifat: i dont know anything
2014-10-05 13:13 Mao: the thing captin wrote in his reply xD
2014-10-05 13:14 pishifat: what reply
2014-10-05 13:14 pishifat: who is captin
2014-10-05 13:14 Mao: baka-pishi
2014-10-05 13:15 pishifat: btw sliders almost ready
2014-10-05 13:15 Mao: in all diffs?
2014-10-05 13:16 pishifat: double checking
2014-10-05 13:17 Mao: k
2014-10-05 13:19 pishifat: and is done
2014-10-05 13:19 pishifat: might want to check if my files open still
2014-10-05 13:19 pishifat: i replaced them but still have no idea
2014-10-05 13:19 pishifat: cuz can't check myself
2014-10-05 13:19 Mao: can you np the set
2014-10-05 13:19 pishifat: ACTION is listening to [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/473992 Apocalyptica - Last Hope]
2014-10-05 13:19 Mao: wanna redl
2014-10-05 13:23 Mao: so custom 11 is just used for this one slider in easy?
2014-10-05 13:23 pishifat: yupp
2014-10-05 13:23 pishifat: pretty useful
2014-10-05 13:32 Mao: lemme have a last look at the diffs
2014-10-05 13:32 Mao: and I'll bub
2014-10-05 13:32 pishifat: last look
2014-10-05 13:32 pishifat: last
2014-10-05 13:32 pishifat: ayyye
2014-10-05 13:37 Mao: alle meine entchen schwimmen auf dem see
2014-10-05 13:37 Mao: köpfchen in das wasser
2014-10-05 13:37 Mao: schwänzchen in die höh! <3
2014-10-05 13:37 Mao: schwimmen auf dem see
2014-10-05 13:37 pishifat: jaja

raikulogs
tiny due to voice chat

2014-10-01 17:13 pishifat: raikoo pls
2014-10-01 17:22 pishifat: ACTION is listening to [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/488373 Apocalyptica - Last Hope]
2014-10-01 17:25 Raiku: 01:19:663 (1,2) -
2014-10-01 17:26 pishifat: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/2091812
2014-10-01 17:30 Raiku: 01:19:663 (1,2,3,4,5) -
2014-10-01 17:41 pishifat: so captin said that stuff was fine
2014-10-01 17:41 pishifat: but there's another thing that i'm fixing up
2014-10-01 17:41 pishifat: so gimme a minute
2014-10-01 17:41 Raiku: cool
2014-10-01 18:08 Raiku: 00:44:999 (2,3,4,1) -
Okoratu
2014-10-05 13:37 Mao: alle meine entchen schwimmen auf dem see
2014-10-05 13:37 Mao: köpfchen in das wasser
2014-10-05 13:37 Mao: schwänzchen in die höh! <3
2014-10-05 13:37 Mao: schwimmen auf dem see
2014-10-05 13:37 pishifat: jaja
samplefish
still waiting
Topic Starter
pishifat
Raiku
pishi contact me in game :D
Raiku
this map rocks, congrats on being unique and playing around with rhythm and making random tempo changes work their way back in subtly.

This is good to go, congrats!

Congratulations!
Mao
\o/
Topic Starter
pishifat
re-yay
Maruyu
oh pishi my tomato baby
Natsu

Mao wrote:

\o/
Okoratu
yay
Irreversible
Quick unrank by the mappers decision.

Reason is messed up colorhaxing in oko's Insane.

Call me!
Topic Starter
pishifat
oko don't touch combos ;-;

fixed it
Irreversible
alright, reranked!
Gero
Grats pishifat \o/
Okoratu
wtf did I do
edit: ok wao sorry I am trash
Gexigamma
Gratz fatty pishi :3
Great work!!
Nozhomi
Gratz on re-rank o/
Pho
Gratz mate :)
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