I mean my play not the game itself
Could be... from my PoV it looked more like announcing that they are scumreading them.Drezi wrote:
Doesn't this attitude look a tad unnatural, announcing intent to place a second vote? null-scumStatic Noise Bird wrote:
But don't mind me voting you soon if that's how it is.
This reminds me of this post: http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 5#p6150525 Where I joined a flash wagon for reactions with a lolz reason.Drezi wrote:
Hell I'd sooner Lynch SNB, like seriously I sooo don't like this post:Yeah this is totally subjective, but the way he just jumped on the wagon and phrased this, and posted only fluff since then just pushed my null-scum read further.Static Noise Bird wrote:
We still have quite a lot time for analyzing, but... wait. There's a train already going on? Don't leave me out, guys!
Vote: Frostings
Strawmanning my arguments because you're stuck into scumreading my slot just because of a gambit my predecessor did isn't the way to go towards things, which seems like a scum excuse to continue pushing without care, and your play overall has been very scummy from my PoV.beeboy123 wrote:
Dake bastard was a train wreck and I have attempted to improved from that game
Tbh he started by voting SNB for no reason, to which i thought was an RVS vote, he kept pushing that for like forever until he eventually moved to Sona, because of a policy lynch. My issue with him is that other than pushing Sona and repeteadly stating he had a FoS on SNB he did nothing else, until he had the gigantic wagon on him to which he finally started contributing.Drezi wrote:
I'm here. Frostings hasn't really been pushing SNB, I mean he's been placing Hands of Suspicions on him all the time in Medical too. Just fluff.
I did not like this either, it's like he wanted us to turn on each other by suggesting that if one is town the other is scum.. And theStatic Noise Bird wrote:
I'm suspicious about Drezi and Gumica; they are posting good posts, so I'll assume either one of them is playing their scum role very well (watch me get lynched next night because of this post, gg).
I had a feeling he expressed Paranoia in that post, how often has SNB played forum mafia anyway, I had a feeling this was the first game where he hasn't been silenced since he kept getting silenced and unable to play on the previous games.Drezi wrote:
I did not like this either, it's like he wanted us to turn on each other by suggesting that if one is town the other is scum.. And theStatic Noise Bird wrote:
I'm suspicious about Drezi and Gumica; they are posting good posts, so I'll assume either one of them is playing their scum role very well (watch me get lynched next night because of this post, gg).
"watch me get lynched next because of this" coming from SNB is not the same as it coming from beeboy.
Wel this is interesting, how many times have you rolled scum in the past?Static Noise Bird wrote:
FYI this is like the 5th or 6th game already where I haven't been silenced. I've played on the Finnish subforum too, twice or thrice, after all :<
Keep going, though, this is interesting.
I agree, That paranoia is hard to fake.Drezi wrote:
Dake a is bit stronger townread now, mainly because of his attitude towards your case.
Why would you lynch frosty to get an idea about me instead of just simply reading me?beeboy123 wrote:
Lynching frost would help me get an idea about you
Well not sure what lining up lynches means here, but saying stuff like that is good for scum, since with a stance like that he can just join/push the lynch of either of us and still be right when one flips town.Sakura wrote:
I had a feeling he expressed Paranoia in that post, how often has SNB played forum mafia anyway, I had a feeling this was the first game where he hasn't been silenced since he kept getting silenced and unable to play on the previous games.
Do you think he'd be scum that's lining up lynches?
Once IIRC.Sakura wrote:
Wel this is interesting, how many times have you rolled scum in the past?
I said game in english or in finnish?Static Noise Bird wrote:
Once IIRC.Sakura wrote:
Wel this is interesting, how many times have you rolled scum in the past?
http://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Straw_Manbeeboy123 wrote:
What is strawmaning?
English.Sakura wrote:
Is said game in english or in finnish?
Can you link it?Static Noise Bird wrote:
English.Sakura wrote:
Is said game in english or in finnish?
beeboy's post are generally null,null-scum and..... scum. There's hardly anything to indicate that he's town seriously.Raging Bull wrote:
What's the current case on beeboy? Is it still because of the constant pushing lynch on Sakura or anyone else?
Though I still like Frosting to know why lynching tn (before sakura replaced in) would have revealed a load of information.
and to have Navizel and SNB to post their god damn scum reads.
p/3387479/ <- This was my initial case on him.Raging Bull wrote:
What's the current case on beeboy? Is it still because of the constant pushing lynch on Sakura or anyone else?
Though I still like Frosting to know why lynching tn (before sakura replaced in) would have revealed a load of information.
and to have Navizel and SNB to post their god damn scum reads.
You know people usually declare intent to hammer before hammering.Static Noise Bird wrote:
Because I'm dumb as fuck idk.
Vote: beeboy
Wait, what.Sakura wrote:
You know people usually declare intent to hammer before hammering.
Bold is mine from p/3152388Static Noise Bird wrote:
CalignoBot - Aside from voting me for no reason on the very first post, no suspicions. Yet.
NoHitter - Haven't paid attention yet. Yet.
BRBP - Plays extreme-town, therefore might be anything.
Gumica - Nothing.
rEdo - Nothing here either.
fartownik - Suspicious claim (not referring to the mafia one btw) and a stupid damn question. Would suspect for both reasons.
DakeDekaane - Scumslipping for lols because nobody takes him seriously anyway. Would suspect.
Drezi - Hides in the shadows. Another "could be anything" case, at the moment.
Hmm ok.Drezi wrote:
It's only L-1 isn't it?
I was in the town game with SNB, and he was very agressively pushing his suspicions there, instead of just dropping by to place a vote. Same thing in Medical mafia when he was town.
I knew itSetsuen wrote:
I am tot scum with Sakura and it's town fault for not lynching tn5421 b4 Sakura replaced in. Oh noes i just outed it.
Null-Scum, would lynch.Frostings wrote:
@Sakura: what's your take on Sonatora?
Sakura wrote:
One example of you strawmanning me, is when you took the part about "Reading the vote count" and decided to blow it out of proportions to nullify everything else.
Drezi wrote:
Btw I wanna hear from Sona, his last post was more than 2 days ago.
Me too.Drezi wrote:
Btw I wanna hear from Sona, his last post was more than 2 days ago.
What doesnt add up? I did say back then that I expected Drezi to be voting me, he explained that he was still spiritually voting me, and when i read over the thread it made sense to me.beeboy123 wrote:
Ya now i am suspicous again you shoulsnt have been expecting the red or be looking at the vote count. Sure you would expect a vote on you but the rest doesnt add up. Until this nakes sense this arguement is not old
iirc, most of the votes that time are on Frostings/tn5421 and tn5421 and tn was in my scumread so I thought it's better to lynch the one with more votes than the one with zero. Now that some voted beeboy and my read on your slot became town, I switched my vote on my original scumread.Sakura wrote:
So you're saying beeboy's conf scum? If so where's your vote?Navizel wrote:
basically I'm thinking of Sonatora + beeboy scumteam. I'm fine with PL Sonatora but I'm better with lynching a conf-scum.
beeboy123 wrote:
Honestly a lot of people aren't posting which isn't fun, town is probably going to continue to sheep Sakura for the rest of the game and me flipping town probably won't change anything. But if I can't make a post today can you wait for me to make a post before sealing my fate by putting me at L-1 or L-2? I will be at my grandparents tomorrow so I can probably be active on mobile but I can't quote things so beware of unreadable posts
am I the only one who is bothered by these. trying too hard to look town to others even though the second one is sarcasticbeeboy123 wrote:
Can you explain? I can't see both you and Frostling being scum or both being town so I would be fine with a frostling lynch. (Inb4 I am scum cause I want to lynch everyone) Honestly I don't think you care about my opinion about you but I'd rather you explain.
another onebeeboy123 wrote:
Ya now i am suspicous again you shoulsnt have been expecting the red or be looking at the vote count. Sure you would expect a vote on you but the rest doesnt add up. Until this nakes sense this arguement is not old
You want to survive as both scum and town, so both cases are equially likely coming from scum or town.Sakura wrote:
1) If i were scum, why would I even bother making all those posts I made instead of just lazying it out until my inevitable demise that tn left the slot in.
2) Now assume I'm town and see if it makes more or less sense.
3) If i were scum, why would I even bother making a point about not reading the people voting me and continue to argue it when, I could just simply try to argue that I do know who was voting me but it was entirely coincidential.
4) Now assume I'm town and see if it makes more or less sense.
I guess it's because you only said that once..or no? i can't remember. Also, more info in your posts than him.Sakura wrote:
wrt to your beeboy's points.
1) The first underline, i've been enphasizing me getting a town role PM too, why is beeboy more suspicious for it than me?
2) The 2nd underline, It's bothered me too.
3) Not sure what to think of the 3rd underline
Well i guess you're right on that, but why didn't you let him give the right answer on his own? Considering you're scumreading him too you'd also be interested in him making statements that give you a better understanding of his alignment.Drezi wrote:
giving him hints, really? if anything I denied him the chance to give the good answer on his own, and now will just look like parroting if he tries to make the same point.
Frostling as it gives me an idea of what Sakura is or someone who is inactive to scare people into being active tomorrowDrezi wrote:
Who do think should be lynched today instead of you, other than Sakura, cause it's pretty evident that it's not an option as things stand right now..
Yeah, better lynch me I'm so getting in the way of poor innocent towns trying to scumhunt.Sakura wrote:
Also that kind of attitude is going to make it pretty hard for anyone to scumhunt without you getting in the way... sigh.
What the hell LOLbeeboy123 wrote:
Frostling as it gives me an idea of what Sakura is or someone who is inactive to scare people into being active tomorrowDrezi wrote:
Who do think should be lynched today instead of you, other than Sakura, cause it's pretty evident that it's not an option as things stand right now..
Pretty much thisbeeboy123 wrote:
Sakura I have a question are you asking questions so I have a chance to stay alive or because you want more info if I flip town. Because I am pretty tired of playing and making posts that will mean nothing and won't help me
I was thinking of shifting the lynch to Sona if I had a town feeling from your posts, the information also is good because if you flip town then we know all your statements have come from Town PoV and if you flip scum then I can start scrutinizing your posts and making associative tells, either way is win/win for town unless you avoid replying.beeboy123 wrote:
Sakura I have a question are you asking questions so I have a chance to stay alive or because you want more info if I flip town. Because I am pretty tired of playing and making posts that will mean nothing and won't help me
He's at L-2 too now, i've been getting the feeling that he could've been derp town for a while, otherwise i wouldn't be questioning him, don't like how he's gone back to lining up lynches and I don't want to lynch you because of your breadcrumb.Frostings wrote:
@Sakura: beeboy is at L-1, why do you feel the need to pressure him further with questions? To me it looks like you're baiting him into posting a weak response, and using that as an excuse to get him hammered.
Unvotebeeboy123 wrote:
If I get lynched we lose a PR so not really win/win
All im asking is for character name actually, not role.beeboy123 wrote:
Could I say character name or is that too much info?
He's scum.Gumica wrote:
Can someone summarize to me why you're all going after Sonatora again?
What.Gumica wrote:
No, beeboy, please say your role; I'm curious