Soon Jax will start to be hated again
Inb4 worlds = buff jax, corki and trinity
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if you're talking about aesthetics I don't think it matters because you barely see any of the champion's details in gameVulf wrote:
Terribly designed champion.
but if you're talking about something else, well then carry on
Why would I be talking about aesthetics? Rengars theme is cool, but his kit is completely obnoxious and disgusting. It's so stupid that it's essentially been reworked about 4 times now. As long as Riot keeps trying to retain his "Identity" with the reworks he will continue to be retarded and keep getting nerfed.
there a tons of terribly desgined champs who cant be balanced since they would be either too weak or too strong. e.g. yasuo,kassadin,rengar,kaz, lots of assassins
This is where I disagree with you.Sugoi-_-Desu wrote:
kaz
But everything else I agree with.
TBH i can't really see find Kaz's spot in the current meta (Where jungle tanks and adc off tanks are kind of the thing)
Well in medium-high elo at least... Either that or assasin's are kinda lossing their thing now.---.
Well in medium-high elo at least... Either that or assasin's are kinda lossing their thing now.---.
There is a big difference when you compare kits like Yasuo and Kha'Zix to Kassadin and Rengar. You can balance Yasuo and Kha'Zix with their current kits. I think Kha'Zix is actually in a decent spot now in terms of healthy gameplay. Never really had a problem with that champion until they randomly decided to give him super tankyness in stealth for some reason (which was later removed).Sugoi-_-Desu wrote:
there a tons of terribly desgined champs who cant be balanced since they would be either too weak or too strong. e.g. yasuo,kassadin,rengar,kaz, lots of assassins
Kits like Rengar and Kassadin will never be healthy for the game and they should be remade from scratch. Been saying this since the first mini rework Kassadin got back in 2010. As long as they try to keep their identity with the reworks those two champions will always be bad for the game or unplayable.
I didnt compare them, i listed them as terribly designed champs.
Yasuo and K6 aren't terribly designed though. Is the point of my post.
Their problems are too many free stats in an already overloaded kit which is fixable without a rework unlike Kass and Rengar.
Their problems are too many free stats in an already overloaded kit which is fixable without a rework unlike Kass and Rengar.
i striked k6 because of that but yasuo actually is teribly designed and unbalancable without him being completely useless or completely overpowered
Care to explain why? I'm interested in why you think this.
I agree that he is annoying and frustrating to play against, but he is definitely a champion that can be tweaked some without making him useless.
I agree that he is annoying and frustrating to play against, but he is definitely a champion that can be tweaked some without making him useless.
Kha'zix is so fun omg.
I should just play eve and him from now!
I should just play eve and him from now!
I wonder what it would do to Yasuo to nerf his crit-building identity. Would annihilate some DPS but where would they compensate if that were to happen?
tell me some of these tweaks that can be applied to yasuo without drastically changing his place in the game
If I was going to do some tweaks to Yasuo the first thing I would start with would be his ulti.
Lets take a look at this ability
See how ridiculously overloaded that ability is? Does he really need all of that? No
Does this ability need 1200 range to be used effectively? No
Would nerfing the range affect his gameplay significantly? Not enough to make him unplayable.
Does this ability need to work with other knock ups? No
Would increasing the CD at later levels nerf him enough to hurt his place in the game? No
Another thing would be to remove the maximum flow upon arrival because a big problem with Yasuo is that he is too tanky for what he does.
None of these changes alone would make him unplayable but would hurt him enough to where he is less excruciating to play against. Yasuo isn't binary enough to where changes like this would make him unviable.
If he is still problematic after that I would look at his passive shield.
Most people seem to think wind wall is the problem with that champion when it really is his overloaded passives and ulti.
Lets take a look at this ability
See how ridiculously overloaded that ability is? Does he really need all of that? No
Does this ability need 1200 range to be used effectively? No
Would nerfing the range affect his gameplay significantly? Not enough to make him unplayable.
Does this ability need to work with other knock ups? No
Would increasing the CD at later levels nerf him enough to hurt his place in the game? No
Another thing would be to remove the maximum flow upon arrival because a big problem with Yasuo is that he is too tanky for what he does.
None of these changes alone would make him unplayable but would hurt him enough to where he is less excruciating to play against. Yasuo isn't binary enough to where changes like this would make him unviable.
If he is still problematic after that I would look at his passive shield.
Most people seem to think wind wall is the problem with that champion when it really is his overloaded passives and ulti.
the ult only working on his own airborne would make yasuo so fucking bad
Nerfs his late game which is his problematic area aside from the random tankyness, but yeah I agree it's probably too much since that would make that ability way too unreliable.
Could make it only effect one target not sure why it hits multiple.
You still haven't explained to me why you think he is a terribly designed champion?
Could make it only effect one target not sure why it hits multiple.
You still haven't explained to me why you think he is a terribly designed champion?
Your tweaks wouldn't make yasuo a balanced champ. He can still just crit the shit out of ad carrys no matter how far behind he is
So you are just going to ignore my question then? Okay
His crit passive isn't anywhere near his problem which is why I said remove some of his tankyness. With supports like braum and morg being dominate there is absolutely no reason a Yasuo should be sticking to a carry to crit the shit out of them unless you got caught in his ult in which case you deserve to die.
He loses some of his tankyness means he is bursted down in fights if he tries to dive an adc.
His crit passive isn't anywhere near his problem which is why I said remove some of his tankyness. With supports like braum and morg being dominate there is absolutely no reason a Yasuo should be sticking to a carry to crit the shit out of them unless you got caught in his ult in which case you deserve to die.
He loses some of his tankyness means he is bursted down in fights if he tries to dive an adc.
yasuo is not okay, let's just leave it at that.
not sure how people let him catch up after he feeds enough to stop starvation in africa
not sure how people let him catch up after he feeds enough to stop starvation in africa
Except that Akali is balanced
Talon? Why Talon?
what
what
I said until then. Not that he needs it.
If I had the choice between playing Talon or Akali I would play Talon. Easier laning phase against more matchups.
I see Talon quite often in high Diamond it's freakin annoying but you can deal with him.
If I had the choice between playing Talon or Akali I would play Talon. Easier laning phase against more matchups.
I see Talon quite often in high Diamond it's freakin annoying but you can deal with him.
i said hes terribly designed because hes unbalancable
stop being stubborn and give reasons
why did talon suddenly get popular again
also when I play him I feel like I do no dmg LOL
also when I play him I feel like I do no dmg LOL
me every single time lolGraciee wrote:
also when I play him I feel like I do no dmg LOL
try armor pen reds + armor pen items
I'm not sure why but recently I've been playing a ton of AD Nidalee and can say for sure that she's extremely fun, even when built AP she's still pretty strong. :>
Same with Akali, the amount of people that don't respect her level 6 power spike is ridiculous and I can get a kill nearly 70% of the time I hit 6.
Same with Akali, the amount of people that don't respect her level 6 power spike is ridiculous and I can get a kill nearly 70% of the time I hit 6.
AD Nidalee is fun. Most of the time, I play her against Nasus. Nidalee wrecks Nasus early game by harassing him with autos and Nidalee has much more to offer in teamfights than Nasus.
I do the same but I build differently when I am fighting a Nasus or another really tanky toplaner and jng where I will usually buy sheen/phage then rush BotRK so I can actually do damage to them when they are trying to farm or get stacks. It also helps with split pushing when you buy a BotRK but you won't get as tanky sooner but you'll be more relevant late game cause you will still have the BotRK passive to help you still do dmg.Navizel wrote:
AD Nidalee is fun. Most of the time, I play her against Nasus. Nidalee wrecks Nasus early game by harassing him with autos and Nidalee has much more to offer in teamfights than Nasus.
It's nice to have a top laner that actually has a ton of variety in what she can build unlike the typical rush BotRK then get tanky.
*Plays ADC fizz* lololol
That's so mid-season 4 though, right now they go either for the Triforce or RoA rushEren Yaeger wrote:
It's nice to have a top laner that actually has a ton of variety in what she can build unlike the typical rush BotRK then get tanky.
A lot of ranged top laners being played so "bork rush then tanky" is definitely not true..
I kinda miss Renekton being played every game.
I kinda miss Renekton being played every game.
Hey guys, fairly new player here, i have experience midlane and jungle, but no so much support or top.
Can you guys give me champ recommendations and tips for support and top?
Can you guys give me champ recommendations and tips for support and top?
How new though
Top - tank damage, peel, kill enemy carry
For support
Top - tank damage, peel, kill enemy carry
Irelia
Put points in your R whenever (q>e>w>w>w>r>w>e>w>>>>>)
Starting Items: Crystalline Flask, 3 health pot, trinket/Doran's Blade, 1 health pot, trinket
Core build: Triforce, Choice of boots (Ninja Tabi against AD, Merc Treads against AP or heavy cc team)
Optional: Blade of the Ruined King
Against AD: Randuin's Omen/Frozen Heart
Against AP: Banshee's Veil/Spirit Visage
Extension: Guardian Angel/Thornmail
Focus on farm, Q a minion if you can't land the last hit. If your enemy got too close, auto-attack them. They will attack back or will run, E them either way. Use your W and auto-attack them to death. If they run and you can't chase, use your q to close the gap. If you have Sheen, AA-E-AA-W-AA...-Q. Make sure to know your matchup though.
Also, ult+auto+ult+auto.. for Sheen procs.
Starting Items: Crystalline Flask, 3 health pot, trinket/Doran's Blade, 1 health pot, trinket
Core build: Triforce, Choice of boots (Ninja Tabi against AD, Merc Treads against AP or heavy cc team)
Optional: Blade of the Ruined King
Against AD: Randuin's Omen/Frozen Heart
Against AP: Banshee's Veil/Spirit Visage
Extension: Guardian Angel/Thornmail
Focus on farm, Q a minion if you can't land the last hit. If your enemy got too close, auto-attack them. They will attack back or will run, E them either way. Use your W and auto-attack them to death. If they run and you can't chase, use your q to close the gap. If you have Sheen, AA-E-AA-W-AA...-Q. Make sure to know your matchup though.
Also, ult+auto+ult+auto.. for Sheen procs.
For support
What people don't seem to understand is that unlike champions like LB or Kass once Talon goes in he has no means of escape hence why he shouldn't be touched. The silence is short and you can do something about it as long as you survive the burst (as an assassin he's MEANT to burst people, I don't get all the whining). The only reason he's getting popular now is due to nerfs to other assassins, he was considered bad before but really nothing changed about him. There are so many middle lane picks that SHIT on him so hard (Ryze, Swain, Diana, Fizz, anything that can counter him with range) and his pre-6 is awful. If he gets nerfed he will probably fall to shit-tier and then be forgotten for months or years. I hope Riot won't listen to the reddit crybabies...Vulf wrote:
I said until then. Not that he needs it.
If I had the choice between playing Talon or Akali I would play Talon. Easier laning phase against more matchups.
I see Talon quite often in high Diamond it's freakin annoying but you can deal with him.
Yeah he is in the same situation as Akali: Godlike in low-mid elo due to his stealth, but chokes once people learn how to control him with pink wards. He is great in skirmishes at dragon or baron and he has, unlike most assassin's, strong AOE damage which can make him a strong pick even in competetive play. At least in the right hands. He can get most of his damage out before he gets bursted down so he isn't that risky of a pick, though he is mediocre at best when it comes to sieging.
I haven't seen a pro player play Talon well except for Voyboy yet, I guess people still need to figure out how to play him correctly.
I still think he deserves some changes, be it buffs or nerfs. His passive is a bit awkward and doesn't work well with his usual spell rotation.
I haven't seen a pro player play Talon well except for Voyboy yet, I guess people still need to figure out how to play him correctly.
I still think he deserves some changes, be it buffs or nerfs. His passive is a bit awkward and doesn't work well with his usual spell rotation.
As more things get nerfed the stronger others get.
Look at Warwick for example. He went from a troll pick to a strong Jungler and this was all due to buffs to his items and nerfs to other strong junglers. His kit was untouched other than bugs fixes which came with even more bugs.
It's already been said by Riot that if they ever decide to nerf Talon he will be losing his silence most likely.
Look at Warwick for example. He went from a troll pick to a strong Jungler and this was all due to buffs to his items and nerfs to other strong junglers. His kit was untouched other than bugs fixes which came with even more bugs.
It's already been said by Riot that if they ever decide to nerf Talon he will be losing his silence most likely.
Thank you Navizel for the help.
I will try to learn how to play Irelia and Leona.
I will try to learn how to play Irelia and Leona.
Early-Midgame maybe, but late game nasus one shot everyone while beiing super tanky so i doubt it.Navizel wrote:
AD Nidalee is fun. Most of the time, I play her against Nasus. Nidalee wrecks Nasus early game by harassing him with autos and Nidalee has much more to offer in teamfights than Nasus.
As someone who uses mostly melee champions, I really hope it doesn't keep up... >_>Vulf wrote:
A lot of ranged top laners being played
That's why you need to force teamfights early and get objectives so they can't get into late game. In case the game reached late game, Nidalee can splitpush just like Nasus.SoG Tava wrote:
Early-Midgame maybe, but late game nasus one shot everyone while beiing super tanky so i doubt it.Navizel wrote:
AD Nidalee is fun. Most of the time, I play her against Nasus. Nidalee wrecks Nasus early game by harassing him with autos and Nidalee has much more to offer in teamfights than Nasus.
Daesung-ah
as a tryndamere main i dont care whats popular top, all i want is that quinn is deleted from the fucking game because fuck that champ
^stats with tryndamere for reference, d5 71 lp atm
^stats with tryndamere for reference, d5 71 lp atm
wait what didn't you use to main Quinn top?
Oh god those TSM vs. DIG games are so intense.. just heartattack after heartattack.
AND I'M NOT EVEN A FAN OF EITHER TEAM
AND I'M NOT EVEN A FAN OF EITHER TEAM
That culling from turtle though LOLBrokenArrow wrote:
Oh god those TSM vs. DIG games are so intense.. just heartattack after heartattack.
AND I'M NOT EVEN A FAN OF EITHER TEAM
Too funny.
What about that big lucky crit from zed again x_x happened two times in the game but he managed to end at the second one (CST vs ProLoL)
Daesung-ah
Not sure what elo you are but anything under low-mid plat is too busy banning stuff like Jax.Justykanna wrote:
As someone who uses mostly melee champions, I really hope it doesn't keep up... >_>Vulf wrote:
A lot of ranged top laners being played
Currently mid-Silver.Vulf wrote:
Not sure what elo you are but anything under low-mid plat is too busy banning stuff like Jax.
Jax hasn't actually been banned a ton. Yasuo, Braum, Vi, Morgana and Maokai have been the common ones.
I always ban against my team and sometimes one ban against the enemy, always hate seeing a Yasuo go 1/10 and still thinks he can 1v3
How come I don't see any Maokai bans and I'm mid-Silver too.
I still see a lot of players ban Jax. The only time I ban him is when I don't feel like going top and I doubt the guy who called top doesn't know how to counter or play against him.
I still see a lot of players ban Jax. The only time I ban him is when I don't feel like going top and I doubt the guy who called top doesn't know how to counter or play against him.
They nerfed Jax's early game so it's really hard for him to get going now which is why he isn't ban priority, Maokai on the other hand has 20% AoE DMG reduction that applies to his team and himself, a knockback, a root and a very large amount of self healing, all while having %HP dmg and scouting with his saplings.
That's exactly my point?
In lower elo's people are too busy banning stuff like Jax because the higher elo/pro play stuff hasn't trickled down there yet. I don't get why Maokai is banned or even picked much top because you can outpick that so easily. It was already demonstrated in competitive play. I have yet to lose a game against a Maokai top.
In lower elo's people are too busy banning stuff like Jax because the higher elo/pro play stuff hasn't trickled down there yet. I don't get why Maokai is banned or even picked much top because you can outpick that so easily. It was already demonstrated in competitive play. I have yet to lose a game against a Maokai top.
Zzzzz it sucks so hard to wait such a long time to see this CLG vs. CRS game and this is how the series starts.. and judging from the loser's faces after the game (don't want to spoiler) they're not gonna pull a win out today
Fml why do I even spend all my weekend nights watching this ):
Never will I ditch my friends to watch LCS again, afk
Fml why do I even spend all my weekend nights watching this ):
Never will I ditch my friends to watch LCS again, afk
yeah, should've gone with my family instead of watching LCS. Yesterday's LCS is so much better than today's.
I'd rather see other champions banned than Maokai - he's not really one I'd personally ban.Vulf wrote:
That's exactly my point?
In lower elo's people are too busy banning stuff like Jax because the higher elo/pro play stuff hasn't trickled down there yet. I don't get why Maokai is banned or even picked much top because you can outpick that so easily. It was already demonstrated in competitive play. I have yet to lose a game against a Maokai top.
Maokai's ulti is useless in lower elo because people never group anyways
It is good even if it's just for you
I always ban Yasuo, Morg, and Trist, they either feed horribly if they are on your team, or be the next faker/LiftLift on the enemy team
the golden brown build with the golden brown skin for the golden brown cards of stuneroni
http://matchhistory.na.leagueoflegends. ... 2/40684034Mr Color wrote:
the golden brown build with the golden brown skin for the golden brown cards of stuneroni
Yeah that sounds extremely unfun to play against.
I really wish Riot would stop making new champions. =\
So many of the older champions left in the dust for so long I feel they don't even care anymore. It's all about money and e$ports now.
I really wish Riot would stop making new champions. =\
So many of the older champions left in the dust for so long I feel they don't even care anymore. It's all about money and e$ports now.
Pun intended?Vulf wrote:
Yeah that sounds extremely unfun to play against.
I really wish Riot would stop making new champions. =\
So many of the older champions left in the dust for so long I feel they don't even care anymore. It's all about money and e$ports now.
I only want Riot to nerf the op champions a little and add a huge buff to the champions who are never played in the LCS. The way Riot nerfs champions who are played in the LCS is they are nerfing them to the ground.
A lot of the stuff that has been bad for years needs a rework because any straight buffs would make them broken overpowered. Poppy for example.
I would rather them just focus on reworking than making any new champions at all and any new champions currently in development should be put on hold/shelved until then. Season 4 was supposed to be the season of large scale relaunches.
Almost all the reworks that have happened this year were due to certain champions being retarded in LCS. Besides none of the reworks were even close to relaunch worthy except for maybe Xerath.
We will be lucky to see the Sion relaunch this year and that will be it. Warwick's relaunch got pushed back into 2015 due to limited art resources.
I would rather them just focus on reworking than making any new champions at all and any new champions currently in development should be put on hold/shelved until then. Season 4 was supposed to be the season of large scale relaunches.
Almost all the reworks that have happened this year were due to certain champions being retarded in LCS. Besides none of the reworks were even close to relaunch worthy except for maybe Xerath.
We will be lucky to see the Sion relaunch this year and that will be it. Warwick's relaunch got pushed back into 2015 due to limited art resources.
has someone attention SKT vs SSW？
New client bugged yeay
I can't even open it lol, the Mac-Client is fantastic!!!!!!!SoG Tava wrote:
New client bugged yeay
just get a Windows pc, Mac is trash in general
Won't be possible because reasons.BrokenArrow wrote:
just get a Windows pc, Mac is trash in general
It really is trash, but I've had it for over 4 years now and its perfect for working (+school), just not for playing.BrokenArrow wrote:
just get a Windows pc, Mac is trash in general
I'm thinking about saving up for a good PC soon. So, if anyone runs League on a Macbook here, I have the solution (sounds dumb but):
Apparently you have to download the newest Softwareupgrade for your Mac, and then it should run again. As you may know,
the first Softwareupgrade costs nothing BUT, you still have to enter a Creditcardnumber! Unless you buy a iTunes-Card like I did now.
So, just stick with Windows you guys, it makes everything much easier
rip SKTIbuki Suika wrote:
has someone attention SKT vs SSW？
(0/3)that's terrible holy crapSoG Tava wrote:
New client bugged yeay
I await Gangplank's rework. =(Vulf wrote:
I would rather them just focus on reworking than making any new champions at all and any new champions currently in development should be put on hold/shelved until then. Season 4 was supposed to be the season of large scale relaunches.
their still has the last chance in 8.30Nofool wrote:
rip SKTIbuki Suika wrote:
has someone attention SKT vs SSW？
but the opportunity is still little
(their opponents maybe is KTAWE CAN DO IT BOYS
man u still got piglet instead of faker in you sig ;_; (i remember that gragas ult tho)tyrael6192 wrote:
WE CAN DO IT BOYS
W E L O S T B O Y S
S N I P E R I N O B O Y S
Yay <3
Now I just need the Allstar Akali skin and I got 'em all, SOMEONE MAKE IT HAPPEN
Now I just need the Allstar Akali skin and I got 'em all, SOMEONE MAKE IT HAPPEN
Anyone here plays on Garena LoL?
I got no one else to play with other than my sister
I got no one else to play with other than my sister
Vulf wrote:
challenger Fiddlesticks
I hate 5v5 premades, idk why. But at least I can tell them what to do.
http://matchhistory.na.leagueoflegends. ... 3/40684034
Decided to try the team builder mode things and I get a leaver from the start :\
Was all alone at bottom
Was all alone at bottom
lmao what's wrong with Azir ? As time goes by I find every single new champ getting more complex mechanics and potentially overdone effects. Who ever said Jax has got too many effects from his helimode can go and smash his head over Azir's W.
This passive too... When someone told me 'bout it I thought it was his ult.
This passive too... When someone told me 'bout it I thought it was his ult.
Overloaded kits have been present since beta. Look at Kayle for example, though she has been reworked and had a ton of stuff removed from her kit over time since then so she isn't that bad anymore.
Problem is it's super prevalent now to the point they have to spend several months after that champions release to balance it (Yasuo) which is retarded seeing how many champions need help at this point.. Sad truth is they aren't going to make much money off new champions if they are designed more like Vel'Koz even though kits like that are much more healthier for the game.
Problem is it's super prevalent now to the point they have to spend several months after that champions release to balance it (Yasuo) which is retarded seeing how many champions need help at this point.. Sad truth is they aren't going to make much money off new champions if they are designed more like Vel'Koz even though kits like that are much more healthier for the game.
Can I board the scoreboard hype train?
Does anyone wanna have my CLG icon? At this rate I should just become a TSM fan.
CLG just has bad management. I don't think any amount of roster changing will fix that.
Hiya, here is a LOL EUW player, whose ID is the same as his OSU! ID.
Now I am focus on playing Annie in ranked game. She is strong as hell in mid game.
Now I am focus on playing Annie in ranked game. She is strong as hell in mid game.