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OzzyOzrock
5,185 posts
Joined August 2010
OzzyOzrock
LCS is a reflection of what the currently strong champions and meta picks are. The reason you see champions picked in LCS nerfed are because the people in LCS use the strong champions. If there was no LCS or way to see top players play champions would still be nerfed because of how riot gathers information on champions from players that study the meta-changes from patches, so saying that LCS causes nerfs to champions is wrong, but not far from the truth since champions with an advantage in the meta are often picks LCS leading to an almost parallel correlation.

jk pls lcs stop play my champ
Vulf
17 posts
Joined November 2009
Vulf
Still not entirely correct.

Stuff isn't only nerfed because of competitive play unless your name is Leblanc.
Solo queue stomps get nerfed all the time like Darius and Akali for example.

LCS = more popularity which in return means more people bitch and moan about said champion which can = nerfs. There is a correlation.
All it really shows is just how horrible Riot is at balancing a game.

Champs aren't really picked for the meta anymore because lol nerf cycles ruined any hope for that. The champs that are picked are picked because they are overwhelmingly stronger than the others. Generally what happens when your entire balance philosophy is to nerf and nerf then rework something just to nerf it some more (Olaf).
Witch Mercy
474 posts
Joined August 2011
Witch Mercy

BrokenArrow wrote:

I love how 1-2 months ago I was talking about Zilean mid being insanely strong and soon after he became a top tier pick in competetive play. :V
At least players haven't found out how to play/build Talon yet or LCS teams are just too good to counter him with pink wards.. there's still hope.
Zilean just ain't my type of champ I guess...unless it's aram :P
Tari
osu! Alumni
1,671 posts
Joined July 2012
Tari
Gnar is the cutest thing ever!
Hika
1,553 posts
Joined February 2010
Hika
dude gnar is a little shit and i will pay to get him nerfed
Vulf
17 posts
Joined November 2009
Vulf
Once people figure out how to play him he is going to be obnoxious to deal with.

All the Gnars I've played against so far have been extremely bad.
Hika
1,553 posts
Joined February 2010
Hika
i thought the exact same thing until today, i ran into a top gnar and a bot gnar

and let me tell you, i was thinking 'hey he's pretty balanced or these people just really suck at gnar, but i'm going to assume the latter because riot knows no balance'
then all of a sudden i get rekt by a gnar

it's like what why are you even a champion ):<
ReDBuLL84
1 post
Joined February 2014
ReDBuLL84

Vulf wrote:

Once people figure out how to play him he is going to be obnoxious to deal with.

All the Gnars I've played against so far have been extremely bad.
Like always. When people see new releases immediately buy the champions ( I really don't understand why to spend 7800 IP instead of just waiting a couple of weeks to get them cheaper), and then they feed so hard for 10-20 games
DaddyCoolVipper
342 posts
Joined July 2012
DaddyCoolVipper
Udyr feels like a good counter to Gnar, but maybe that's just for low ELO. Turtle stance can block damage if you get hit by his poke, and tiger takes off like 40% of his hp in each trade. You can just back off when he's Mega Gnar.
CLSW
osu! Alumni
2,182 posts
Joined October 2010
CLSW
SPOILER

:OO
OzzyOzrock
5,185 posts
Joined August 2010
OzzyOzrock
gnar is balanced i burst down tank malphite in 5 autos and 2 boomerangs with only a triforce Kappa
Vulf
17 posts
Joined November 2009
Vulf
He is annoying top lane when you are melee against him. Basically a vayne that gets tanky as hell randomly.
Not sure why they keep making ranged top laners when they have always been super problematic in the past and even now.
Navizel
2,982 posts
Joined April 2011
Navizel
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Witch Mercy
474 posts
Joined August 2011
Witch Mercy
samsung blue plserino
Jazz
674 posts
Joined March 2011
Jazz
Gnar is indeed adorable, although I haven't seen people use him nor have I played as him so I can't tell anything about his gameplay

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Most of the games I spectated had people building him like a god damn ADC. He's just going to get melted once he transforms since he's so squishy.
BrokenArrow
2,237 posts
Joined June 2010
BrokenArrow

Frostei wrote:

Most of the games I spectated had people building him like a god damn ADC. He's just going to get melted once he transforms since he's so squishy.
He actually gains 1260 health + 36 MR and Armor just from his passive alone at level 18 which is quite ridiculous when you think about it, it's like Shyvana's passive but three times better
But then again he has the lowest base health at level 18 so that makes up for it a little bit

Furthermore he has an attack speed steroid in his small form paired with a stronger version of Vayne's W (except that it doesn't deal true damage) along with 7 cc abilities and a gapcloser

From those stats alone he looks like the most OP champion ever created but I haven't played against a good Gnar so I can't judge it yet :/
DothThouHoist
147 posts
Joined September 2013
DothThouHoist

BrokenArrow wrote:

Frostei wrote:

Most of the games I spectated had people building him like a god damn ADC. He's just going to get melted once he transforms since he's so squishy.
He actually gains 1260 health + 36 MR and Armor just from his passive alone at level 18 which is quite ridiculous when you think about it, it's like Shyvana's passive but three times better
But then again he has the lowest base health at level 18 so that makes up for it a little bit

Furthermore he has an attack speed steroid in his small form paired with a stronger version of Vayne's W (except that it doesn't deal true damage) along with 7 cc abilities and a gapcloser

From those stats alone he looks like the most OP champion ever created but I haven't played against a good Gnar so I can't judge it yet :/
I've found that although hes the new word for OP Gnar's actually quite easy to kite. As long as you can dodge his initial jump or ulti...
And well, without much AOE on his team, he actually doesn't prevail that well in open teamfights (like in mid)

But all i've ever done with him is just rush Trinity Force and Botrk then go off-tank... Actually works pretty well
So, not really a good option for sustained fights (since theres a limited amount of time to poke till his passive reaches 100)
Onces it reaches 100 either engage or just step the fudge back, i see alot of players not being able to control Gnar's fury/rage whatever the fudge it is

So yeah, Gnar's a really good champion, mechanically quite challenging but nobody knows how to use him...
Once they know how, hes gonna replace teemo as the new satan (or maybe be like a heir to teemo's title)
Vulf
17 posts
Joined November 2009
Vulf

Jazz wrote:

Gnar is indeed adorable, although I haven't seen people use him nor have I played as him so I can't tell anything about his gameplay

What is that image trying to imply? Literally every champion has been nerfed at some point via indirect or direct.

From a design point of view Gnar is NO WHERE near as disgusting as Rengar is. Rengar shouldn't even exist and has deserved every nerf thrown in his direction. Horrible champion.
Witch Mercy
474 posts
Joined August 2011
Witch Mercy
But it's so fun to jump on someone out of nowhere and kill them!
DothThouHoist
147 posts
Joined September 2013
DothThouHoist

Graciee wrote:

But it's so fun to jump on someone out of nowhere and kill them!
As a douchebag i build AP rengar and lich bane proc the shid out of everyone... Then of course zhonya's for the extra style points lol
DothThouHoist
147 posts
Joined September 2013
DothThouHoist

Vulf wrote:

Jazz wrote:

Gnar is indeed adorable, although I haven't seen people use him nor have I played as him so I can't tell anything about his gameplay

What is that image trying to imply? Literally every champion has been nerfed at some point via indirect or direct.

From a design point of view Gnar is NO WHERE near as disgusting as Rengar is. Rengar shouldn't even exist and has deserved every nerf thrown in his direction. Horrible champion.
Everytime i top lane against a rengar i fear for my life... Like hysterically thinking where he could be at this exact moment....
I end up spamming MIA eveytime he backs or caution on mid lane, cus yeah...
Dat Q steriod though.... Not even funny
Jazz
674 posts
Joined March 2011
Jazz

Vulf wrote:

From a design point of view Gnar is NO WHERE near as disgusting as Rengar is. Rengar shouldn't even exist and has deserved every nerf thrown in his direction. Horrible champion.
why you hating on Rengar
Vulf
17 posts
Joined November 2009
Vulf

Jazz wrote:

why you hating on Rengar
Terribly designed champion.
GeeNX
1,081 posts
Joined June 2012
GeeNX
Soon Jax will start to be hated again

Inb4 worlds = buff jax, corki and trinity
Jazz
674 posts
Joined March 2011
Jazz

Vulf wrote:

Terribly designed champion.
if you're talking about aesthetics I don't think it matters because you barely see any of the champion's details in game
but if you're talking about something else, well then carry on
Vulf
17 posts
Joined November 2009
Vulf
Why would I be talking about aesthetics? Rengars theme is cool, but his kit is completely obnoxious and disgusting. It's so stupid that it's essentially been reworked about 4 times now. As long as Riot keeps trying to retain his "Identity" with the reworks he will continue to be retarded and keep getting nerfed.
khan119
125 posts
Joined September 2013
khan119
there a tons of terribly desgined champs who cant be balanced since they would be either too weak or too strong. e.g. yasuo,kassadin,rengar,kaz, lots of assassins
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Ceph23
687 posts
Joined September 2013
Ceph23

Sugoi-_-Desu wrote:

kaz
This is where I disagree with you.
But everything else I agree with.
khan119
125 posts
Joined September 2013
khan119
actually, youre right fuck kaz striking that bug
DothThouHoist
147 posts
Joined September 2013
DothThouHoist
TBH i can't really see find Kaz's spot in the current meta (Where jungle tanks and adc off tanks are kind of the thing)
Well in medium-high elo at least... Either that or assasin's are kinda lossing their thing now.---.
Vulf
17 posts
Joined November 2009
Vulf

Sugoi-_-Desu wrote:

there a tons of terribly desgined champs who cant be balanced since they would be either too weak or too strong. e.g. yasuo,kassadin,rengar,kaz, lots of assassins
There is a big difference when you compare kits like Yasuo and Kha'Zix to Kassadin and Rengar. You can balance Yasuo and Kha'Zix with their current kits. I think Kha'Zix is actually in a decent spot now in terms of healthy gameplay. Never really had a problem with that champion until they randomly decided to give him super tankyness in stealth for some reason (which was later removed).

Kits like Rengar and Kassadin will never be healthy for the game and they should be remade from scratch. Been saying this since the first mini rework Kassadin got back in 2010. As long as they try to keep their identity with the reworks those two champions will always be bad for the game or unplayable.
khan119
125 posts
Joined September 2013
khan119
I didnt compare them, i listed them as terribly designed champs.
Vulf
17 posts
Joined November 2009
Vulf
Yasuo and K6 aren't terribly designed though. Is the point of my post.
Their problems are too many free stats in an already overloaded kit which is fixable without a rework unlike Kass and Rengar.
khan119
125 posts
Joined September 2013
khan119
i striked k6 because of that but yasuo actually is teribly designed and unbalancable without him being completely useless or completely overpowered
Vulf
17 posts
Joined November 2009
Vulf
Care to explain why? I'm interested in why you think this.

I agree that he is annoying and frustrating to play against, but he is definitely a champion that can be tweaked some without making him useless.
Witch Mercy
474 posts
Joined August 2011
Witch Mercy
Kha'zix is so fun omg.
I should just play eve and him from now!
OzzyOzrock
5,185 posts
Joined August 2010
OzzyOzrock
I wonder what it would do to Yasuo to nerf his crit-building identity. Would annihilate some DPS but where would they compensate if that were to happen?
khan119
125 posts
Joined September 2013
khan119
tell me some of these tweaks that can be applied to yasuo without drastically changing his place in the game
Vulf
17 posts
Joined November 2009
Vulf
If I was going to do some tweaks to Yasuo the first thing I would start with would be his ulti.

Lets take a look at this ability



See how ridiculously overloaded that ability is? Does he really need all of that? No

Does this ability need 1200 range to be used effectively? No
Would nerfing the range affect his gameplay significantly? Not enough to make him unplayable.

Does this ability need to work with other knock ups? No

Would increasing the CD at later levels nerf him enough to hurt his place in the game? No

Another thing would be to remove the maximum flow upon arrival because a big problem with Yasuo is that he is too tanky for what he does.

None of these changes alone would make him unplayable but would hurt him enough to where he is less excruciating to play against. Yasuo isn't binary enough to where changes like this would make him unviable.

If he is still problematic after that I would look at his passive shield.

Most people seem to think wind wall is the problem with that champion when it really is his overloaded passives and ulti.
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khan119
125 posts
Joined September 2013
khan119
the ult only working on his own airborne would make yasuo so fucking bad
Vulf
17 posts
Joined November 2009
Vulf
Nerfs his late game which is his problematic area aside from the random tankyness, but yeah I agree it's probably too much since that would make that ability way too unreliable.
Could make it only effect one target not sure why it hits multiple.

You still haven't explained to me why you think he is a terribly designed champion?
khan119
125 posts
Joined September 2013
khan119
Your tweaks wouldn't make yasuo a balanced champ. He can still just crit the shit out of ad carrys no matter how far behind he is
Vulf
17 posts
Joined November 2009
Vulf
So you are just going to ignore my question then? Okay

His crit passive isn't anywhere near his problem which is why I said remove some of his tankyness. With supports like braum and morg being dominate there is absolutely no reason a Yasuo should be sticking to a carry to crit the shit out of them unless you got caught in his ult in which case you deserve to die.

He loses some of his tankyness means he is bursted down in fights if he tries to dive an adc.
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Hika
1,553 posts
Joined February 2010
Hika
yasuo is not okay, let's just leave it at that.
not sure how people let him catch up after he feeds enough to stop starvation in africa
Vulf
17 posts
Joined November 2009
Vulf
The same way they let Akali do. Similar issues.
BrokenArrow
2,237 posts
Joined June 2010
BrokenArrow
Except that Akali is balanced
Vulf
17 posts
Joined November 2009
Vulf
Until Yasuo,Talon and a few other champs are nerfed she is.
Hika
1,553 posts
Joined February 2010
Hika
Talon? Why Talon?

what
Vulf
17 posts
Joined November 2009
Vulf
I said until then. Not that he needs it.

If I had the choice between playing Talon or Akali I would play Talon. Easier laning phase against more matchups.

I see Talon quite often in high Diamond it's freakin annoying but you can deal with him.
khan119
125 posts
Joined September 2013
khan119
i said hes terribly designed because hes unbalancable
BrokenArrow
2,237 posts
Joined June 2010
BrokenArrow
stop being stubborn and give reasons
Witch Mercy
474 posts
Joined August 2011
Witch Mercy
why did talon suddenly get popular again
also when I play him I feel like I do no dmg LOL
Navizel
2,982 posts
Joined April 2011
Navizel

Graciee wrote:

also when I play him I feel like I do no dmg LOL
me every single time lol

try armor pen reds + armor pen items
Eren Yaeger
122 posts
Joined September 2013
Eren Yaeger
I'm not sure why but recently I've been playing a ton of AD Nidalee and can say for sure that she's extremely fun, even when built AP she's still pretty strong. :>

Same with Akali, the amount of people that don't respect her level 6 power spike is ridiculous and I can get a kill nearly 70% of the time I hit 6.
Navizel
2,982 posts
Joined April 2011
Navizel
AD Nidalee is fun. Most of the time, I play her against Nasus. Nidalee wrecks Nasus early game by harassing him with autos and Nidalee has much more to offer in teamfights than Nasus.
Eren Yaeger
122 posts
Joined September 2013
Eren Yaeger

Navizel wrote:

AD Nidalee is fun. Most of the time, I play her against Nasus. Nidalee wrecks Nasus early game by harassing him with autos and Nidalee has much more to offer in teamfights than Nasus.
I do the same but I build differently when I am fighting a Nasus or another really tanky toplaner and jng where I will usually buy sheen/phage then rush BotRK so I can actually do damage to them when they are trying to farm or get stacks. It also helps with split pushing when you buy a BotRK but you won't get as tanky sooner but you'll be more relevant late game cause you will still have the BotRK passive to help you still do dmg.

It's nice to have a top laner that actually has a ton of variety in what she can build unlike the typical rush BotRK then get tanky.
DothThouHoist
147 posts
Joined September 2013
DothThouHoist
*Plays ADC fizz* lololol
BrokenArrow
2,237 posts
Joined June 2010
BrokenArrow

Eren Yaeger wrote:

It's nice to have a top laner that actually has a ton of variety in what she can build unlike the typical rush BotRK then get tanky.
That's so mid-season 4 though, right now they go either for the Triforce or RoA rush
Vulf
17 posts
Joined November 2009
Vulf
A lot of ranged top laners being played so "bork rush then tanky" is definitely not true..

I kinda miss Renekton being played every game.
Jing Yuan
1,500 posts
Joined September 2013
Jing Yuan
Hey guys, fairly new player here, i have experience midlane and jungle, but no so much support or top.

Can you guys give me champ recommendations and tips for support and top?
Navizel
2,982 posts
Joined April 2011
Navizel
How new though

Top - tank damage, peel, kill enemy carry
Irelia
Put points in your R whenever (q>e>w>w>w>r>w>e>w>>>>>)
Starting Items: Crystalline Flask, 3 health pot, trinket/Doran's Blade, 1 health pot, trinket
Core build: Triforce, Choice of boots (Ninja Tabi against AD, Merc Treads against AP or heavy cc team)
Optional: Blade of the Ruined King
Against AD: Randuin's Omen/Frozen Heart
Against AP: Banshee's Veil/Spirit Visage
Extension: Guardian Angel/Thornmail

Focus on farm, Q a minion if you can't land the last hit. If your enemy got too close, auto-attack them. They will attack back or will run, E them either way. Use your W and auto-attack them to death. If they run and you can't chase, use your q to close the gap. If you have Sheen, AA-E-AA-W-AA...-Q. Make sure to know your matchup though.

Also, ult+auto+ult+auto.. for Sheen procs.

For support
Jordan
1,037 posts
Joined December 2010
Jordan

Vulf wrote:

I said until then. Not that he needs it.

If I had the choice between playing Talon or Akali I would play Talon. Easier laning phase against more matchups.

I see Talon quite often in high Diamond it's freakin annoying but you can deal with him.
What people don't seem to understand is that unlike champions like LB or Kass once Talon goes in he has no means of escape hence why he shouldn't be touched. The silence is short and you can do something about it as long as you survive the burst (as an assassin he's MEANT to burst people, I don't get all the whining). The only reason he's getting popular now is due to nerfs to other assassins, he was considered bad before but really nothing changed about him. There are so many middle lane picks that SHIT on him so hard (Ryze, Swain, Diana, Fizz, anything that can counter him with range) and his pre-6 is awful. If he gets nerfed he will probably fall to shit-tier and then be forgotten for months or years. I hope Riot won't listen to the reddit crybabies...
BrokenArrow
2,237 posts
Joined June 2010
BrokenArrow
Yeah he is in the same situation as Akali: Godlike in low-mid elo due to his stealth, but chokes once people learn how to control him with pink wards. He is great in skirmishes at dragon or baron and he has, unlike most assassin's, strong AOE damage which can make him a strong pick even in competetive play. At least in the right hands. He can get most of his damage out before he gets bursted down so he isn't that risky of a pick, though he is mediocre at best when it comes to sieging.

I haven't seen a pro player play Talon well except for Voyboy yet, I guess people still need to figure out how to play him correctly.

I still think he deserves some changes, be it buffs or nerfs. His passive is a bit awkward and doesn't work well with his usual spell rotation.
Vulf
17 posts
Joined November 2009
Vulf
As more things get nerfed the stronger others get.

Look at Warwick for example. He went from a troll pick to a strong Jungler and this was all due to buffs to his items and nerfs to other strong junglers. His kit was untouched other than bugs fixes which came with even more bugs.

It's already been said by Riot that if they ever decide to nerf Talon he will be losing his silence most likely.
Jing Yuan
1,500 posts
Joined September 2013
Jing Yuan
Thank you Navizel for the help.

I will try to learn how to play Irelia and Leona.
Sapphiire_old_1
1,301 posts
Joined July 2013
Sapphiire_old_1

Navizel wrote:

AD Nidalee is fun. Most of the time, I play her against Nasus. Nidalee wrecks Nasus early game by harassing him with autos and Nidalee has much more to offer in teamfights than Nasus.
Early-Midgame maybe, but late game nasus one shot everyone while beiing super tanky so i doubt it.
Justykanna
1,090 posts
Joined April 2011
Justykanna

Vulf wrote:

A lot of ranged top laners being played
As someone who uses mostly melee champions, I really hope it doesn't keep up... >_>
Navizel
2,982 posts
Joined April 2011
Navizel

SoG Tava wrote:

Navizel wrote:

AD Nidalee is fun. Most of the time, I play her against Nasus. Nidalee wrecks Nasus early game by harassing him with autos and Nidalee has much more to offer in teamfights than Nasus.
Early-Midgame maybe, but late game nasus one shot everyone while beiing super tanky so i doubt it.
That's why you need to force teamfights early and get objectives so they can't get into late game. In case the game reached late game, Nidalee can splitpush just like Nasus.
Daesung-ah
Daesung-ah
as a tryndamere main i dont care whats popular top, all i want is that quinn is deleted from the fucking game because fuck that champ

SPOILER

^stats with tryndamere for reference, d5 71 lp atm
BrokenArrow
2,237 posts
Joined June 2010
BrokenArrow
wait what didn't you use to main Quinn top?
Nofool
Elite Mapper
1,108 posts
Joined February 2011
Nofool

Daesung-ah wrote:

as a tryndamere main i dont care whats popular top, all i want is that quinn is deleted from the fucking game because fuck that champ

SPOILER

^stats with tryndamere for reference, d5 71 lp atm
not even 1k kills...
BrokenArrow
2,237 posts
Joined June 2010
BrokenArrow
Oh god those TSM vs. DIG games are so intense.. just heartattack after heartattack.
AND I'M NOT EVEN A FAN OF EITHER TEAM
Witch Mercy
474 posts
Joined August 2011
Witch Mercy

BrokenArrow wrote:

Oh god those TSM vs. DIG games are so intense.. just heartattack after heartattack.
AND I'M NOT EVEN A FAN OF EITHER TEAM
That culling from turtle though LOL
Too funny.
Navizel
2,982 posts
Joined April 2011
Navizel
Culling for Triforce proc but

https://twitter.com/danielzklein/status ... 2489699328
Nofool
Elite Mapper
1,108 posts
Joined February 2011
Nofool
What about that big lucky crit from zed again x_x happened two times in the game but he managed to end at the second one (CST vs ProLoL)
Daesung-ah
Daesung-ah

BrokenArrow wrote:

wait what didn't you use to main Quinn top?
hey man shut the fuck up quinn is cancer i'd never ever main that shit hard sarcasm
Vulf
17 posts
Joined November 2009
Vulf

Justykanna wrote:

Vulf wrote:

A lot of ranged top laners being played
As someone who uses mostly melee champions, I really hope it doesn't keep up... >_>
Not sure what elo you are but anything under low-mid plat is too busy banning stuff like Jax.
Justykanna
1,090 posts
Joined April 2011
Justykanna

Vulf wrote:

Not sure what elo you are but anything under low-mid plat is too busy banning stuff like Jax.
Currently mid-Silver.
Jax hasn't actually been banned a ton. Yasuo, Braum, Vi, Morgana and Maokai have been the common ones.
Eren Yaeger
122 posts
Joined September 2013
Eren Yaeger
I always ban against my team and sometimes one ban against the enemy, always hate seeing a Yasuo go 1/10 and still thinks he can 1v3
Navizel
2,982 posts
Joined April 2011
Navizel
How come I don't see any Maokai bans and I'm mid-Silver too.

I still see a lot of players ban Jax. The only time I ban him is when I don't feel like going top and I doubt the guy who called top doesn't know how to counter or play against him.
Eren Yaeger
122 posts
Joined September 2013
Eren Yaeger
They nerfed Jax's early game so it's really hard for him to get going now which is why he isn't ban priority, Maokai on the other hand has 20% AoE DMG reduction that applies to his team and himself, a knockback, a root and a very large amount of self healing, all while having %HP dmg and scouting with his saplings.
Vulf
17 posts
Joined November 2009
Vulf
That's exactly my point?

In lower elo's people are too busy banning stuff like Jax because the higher elo/pro play stuff hasn't trickled down there yet. I don't get why Maokai is banned or even picked much top because you can outpick that so easily. It was already demonstrated in competitive play. I have yet to lose a game against a Maokai top.
BrokenArrow
2,237 posts
Joined June 2010
BrokenArrow
Zzzzz it sucks so hard to wait such a long time to see this CLG vs. CRS game and this is how the series starts.. and judging from the loser's faces after the game (don't want to spoiler) they're not gonna pull a win out today
Fml why do I even spend all my weekend nights watching this ):

Never will I ditch my friends to watch LCS again, afk
Navizel
2,982 posts
Joined April 2011
Navizel
yeah, should've gone with my family instead of watching LCS. Yesterday's LCS is so much better than today's.
Justykanna
1,090 posts
Joined April 2011
Justykanna

Vulf wrote:

That's exactly my point?

In lower elo's people are too busy banning stuff like Jax because the higher elo/pro play stuff hasn't trickled down there yet. I don't get why Maokai is banned or even picked much top because you can outpick that so easily. It was already demonstrated in competitive play. I have yet to lose a game against a Maokai top.
I'd rather see other champions banned than Maokai - he's not really one I'd personally ban.
BrokenArrow
2,237 posts
Joined June 2010
BrokenArrow
Maokai's ulti is useless in lower elo because people never group anyways
GeeNX
1,081 posts
Joined June 2012
GeeNX
It is good even if it's just for you
Eren Yaeger
122 posts
Joined September 2013
Eren Yaeger
I always ban Yasuo, Morg, and Trist, they either feed horribly if they are on your team, or be the next faker/LiftLift on the enemy team
Fabi
1,130 posts
Joined September 2009
Fabi
Wow, Amazong making the moves.

https://twitter.com/Twitch/status/503996320349057024
Cyclohexane
osu! Alumni
4,568 posts
Joined May 2009
Cyclohexane

the golden brown build with the golden brown skin for the golden brown cards of stuneroni
Love
osu! Alumni
1,267 posts
Joined August 2010
Love

Mr Color wrote:


the golden brown build with the golden brown skin for the golden brown cards of stuneroni
http://matchhistory.na.leagueoflegends. ... 2/40684034
Navizel
2,982 posts
Joined April 2011
Navizel
http://na.leagueoflegends.com/en/champi ... -the-sands

so fast
Vulf
17 posts
Joined November 2009
Vulf
Yeah that sounds extremely unfun to play against.

I really wish Riot would stop making new champions. =\
So many of the older champions left in the dust for so long I feel they don't even care anymore. It's all about money and e$ports now.
BrokenArrow
2,237 posts
Joined June 2010
BrokenArrow

Vulf wrote:

Yeah that sounds extremely unfun to play against.

I really wish Riot would stop making new champions. =\
So many of the older champions left in the dust for so long I feel they don't even care anymore. It's all about money and e$ports now.
Pun intended? :D
Navizel
2,982 posts
Joined April 2011
Navizel
I only want Riot to nerf the op champions a little and add a huge buff to the champions who are never played in the LCS. The way Riot nerfs champions who are played in the LCS is they are nerfing them to the ground.
Vulf
17 posts
Joined November 2009
Vulf
A lot of the stuff that has been bad for years needs a rework because any straight buffs would make them broken overpowered. Poppy for example.

I would rather them just focus on reworking than making any new champions at all and any new champions currently in development should be put on hold/shelved until then. Season 4 was supposed to be the season of large scale relaunches.

Almost all the reworks that have happened this year were due to certain champions being retarded in LCS. Besides none of the reworks were even close to relaunch worthy except for maybe Xerath.

We will be lucky to see the Sion relaunch this year and that will be it. Warwick's relaunch got pushed back into 2015 due to limited art resources.
Ibuki Suika
1,254 posts
Joined March 2010
Ibuki Suika
has someone attention SKT vs SSW？
Sapphiire_old_1
1,301 posts
Joined July 2013
Sapphiire_old_1


New client bugged yeay >:(
Katze
379 posts
Joined November 2011
Katze

SoG Tava wrote:



New client bugged yeay >:(
I can't even open it lol, the Mac-Client is fantastic!!!!!!! 8-)
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