1. Collab (5 stars, 668 notes)
2. Easy (1,3 stars, 165 notes)
3. Encrypto's Hard (4,87 stars, 537 notes)
4. Normal (3,52 stars, 264 notes)

Xgor wrote:

[Combo colours]
It's pretty hard to see the black approach-circle against the background.
Please change black to something else.
Purple was also pretty hard to see and i suggest you change it too.

Fixed

[Skin]
Isn't the approachcircle.png from Loogiesquared's skin?
Have you asked for permission.

Permission obtained

[All difficulties]
I'm pretty sure that having the stacking leniency on rarely stack isn't allowed

Fixed

Otherwise it was pretty good (Although sometimes a bit hard to follow)

You need to add hitsounds and a easier difficulty but I'm sure you know that already
On the way
*star*

haisha_ wrote:

:3

hard:
00:03:564 [1]left 2 tiny squares?
Fixed
insane:
01:04:314 [4]spacing?
02:32:171 [7] new combo?
02:32:921 [1] no new combo?
02:33:349 [3]new combo?
><;;;;
Fixed
star ~

Matma Rex wrote:

Pretty cool. But:

First, I don't like your color choice (although that might be just me).
- Most of all, I hate that purple as hit300.
- Dark blue might be a bit hard to see.
- I think orange doesnt fit the mood of song.
If I were you, I'd use 3 combo colors: red, green and purple, and use regular hit50/100/300, maybe a bit darkened.
Combo colors fixed

Second, your Insane is.. weird. Some parts are totally counter-rhythmic, and these triples totally do not fit the song. (I respect your point of view, but i think, you're wrong. It's insane after all, and you tryin' to say, that i cannt build rhythmical pattern by myself? =) Maybe, some part's are out, if you look at song's rhythm, but it pretty good in fit it. Some madmen, like lesjuh or ShaggoN, might be able to FC or even S it, but goddamn, it's weird. It's also pushing max score boundaries for ranked maps (13.5 mln). (Not really, i hear that it can be ranked up to 14kk, also, here barrier is 13.4, and it get ranked http://osu.ppy.sh/s/9538)
I suggest to either delete this diff (bot your and Encrypto's Hards are waaay better), or, if you like it, try to make it approved, not ranked. For example, Ephemeral's Bad Apple!! has 4 diffs ranked and one approved. (http://osu.ppy.sh/s/10435) I want to all these mapset became ranked, anyway, thx for suggestion

Third, Easy is totally not easy at all. It's actually pretty tough, you can never guess from music if next notes are gonna be triple, double, or single note, and it's cluttered due to low spacing. The only thing I can suggest here is major remap :/, or renaming to Normal and making another Easy. i'm already thinkin' about it

Hanyuu wrote:

star for encrypto because this map is really good

Xero_HT wrote:

... just use ' instead of ´ ... many diff. names got this

1. Remove .osb file, it's unused.

1. Add claps that follow the snaredrum-sound in the background.

1. Add claps that follow the snaredrum-sound in the background.
2. Don't put a timing section halfway a slider, since sound of the sliderpath will change halfway then. Put the timing section at the endpoint if you want the endpoint to have an other sample sound than the startpoint. Fix this throughout this and the other diffs.

1. Don't put a timing section halfway a slider, since sound of the sliderpath will change halfway then. Put the timing section at the endpoint if you want the endpoint to have an other sample sound than the startpoint. Fix this throughout this and the other diffs.

1. Don't put a timing section halfway a slider, since sound of the sliderpath will change halfway then. Put the timing section at the endpoint if you want the endpoint to have an other sample sound than the startpoint. Fix this throughout this and the other diffs.

Encrypto wrote:

You can fix it at my difficulty too,im busy atm.

Dangaard wrote:

[general]
You should resnap all green lines to the timing you are using (or at least the Kiai sections). Also be aware that your inherited time sections which are changing the hitsounds are on the actual beat, misstiming this beat leads to a wrong hitsound consequently, so you should consider putting these green lines few ms before the actual beat (maybe 1/4 tick).

Finally finished D:

The approach circle got a quite distracting glow effect causing this to look pretty blurred.
Also this might need an easier diff.
When i'm planning normal, it became hard, when i'm planning easy, it becames normal %) So what must i plan to map easy? i really don't see it here

[Normal]
01:44:715 (1,2,3,4) - compared to the other patterns of this section, this sticks out due to a different rhythm
03:23:501 (3) - you should move this 1/4 back, the music at this 1/4 beat is too strong and distracting when concentrating on the 1/2 beat you currently got

[Hard]
00:37:323 (5) - this is too close to (4)

[Encrypto]
00:21:573 (5,6) - move 2 left, 1 up? (lvl 3)
01:53:287 (1) - the section starting here sound a bit noisy with this whistle/clap use
this diff got some green lines affecting the sliderslide and slidertick sounds, which seems a bit random

[Insane]
00:09:680 (4) - this is a bit distracting with disabled sounds, also if misstimed, you will still hear a hitsound here
add a green line to the very end to disable kiai time (like in the other diffs)

all fixed

fumoffu star :3

• • You should make an easier diff (Pattern Set: H I I I)
  • I really don't like the "approachcircle.png", it makes me distract

Teh JeY wrote:

Saw this song in your sig, I love Prodigy, so I thought I'd give you a hand! Great-looking map and neat song, just some minor things that are more opinions than fixes.

Easy
00:16:001 (4) - This is inconsistent with the rest of your map - all other stacked notes are hit faster

Yep, but but what point to do even easy with robot-like same rhythm?

Normal
01:12:787 (1,2) - Timing of these feel... off. Maybe it's just me.
02:41:715 (1,2) - ^

50% speed when i listen it said, that all fine =)

Hard

-General-
Some of the parts timed with 1/4 snapping, while complimenting the song nicely, seemed a little difficult to comprehend (for me). Maybe you could space these just a little closer together, and maybe triangulate the overlapping notes? Unless you want it to be that much harder.

see no problem here, it's hard after all

02:13:858 (8) - I was wondering why 6 is hit after 7? Then I realized there's an 8 there after about 4 tests. I'm not sure that's completely appropriate?
02:21:358 (2,3,4,5,6) - This one is particularly hard to read with your strange approach circles

ok, this part fixed

Encrypto's Bad Omen
00:24:144 (1,2) - Misleading, especially with 4 being different.

When you mapping, you're not forced to just follow the rhythm, you can build your own, like Encrypto does here

01:18:358 (3,4,5,6,7) - Clapping hitsound for all of these sounds weird.

Dunno, i like it =)

01:25:001 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - ^ {Changing 4,5 and 8,9 to finish sound pretty good}

Ok, fixed, but i'm not so strong in hitsounds, let's see what other will say

02:41:287 (9) - Could do without - Every one of my tests I miss this, doesn't make sense to hit.

Couldn't. It placed on main beat

Insane

-General-
sometimes when the notes doubled back on themselves, I had trouble seeing the hitcirlces - make sure all of those sequences are comprehendible - Triangulating like I mentioned earlier, even just slightly, will make it much more playable.

Some parts fixed


Overall, great map. Star!

Shulin wrote:

General:

-- Hm... maybe fine a better BG this one is kinda... odd?

All pictures i found is square, so when osu resize it to 800x600 or kinda, it all loks like now %)

Easy:

-- This does play a bit like a Normal.
-- Delete some of the unused inheriting sections examples: 00:59:073, 00:59:394, 01:05:930, 01:06:251 plus many others.
-- Delete all inheriting sections after 01:53:287.

01:03:573 (1) - Remove whistle from the start.
01:04:644 (3) - Remove whistle.

Fixed

Normal:

-- You could name this "Normal +" and name Easy "Normal".

01:14:501 (1,2) - Spacing. Too close.

All right for me =O

02:29:287 (1) - Remove whistle from the start.
03:24:144 (1,2,3) - A return slider would be best here, it looks like 1/2 spacing.

1,2 - 1/4 spacing, so i can't place here a return slider

Fixed

Hard:

01:04:537 (4,5,6,1,2,3,4) - The way it changes from 1/4 to 1/2 is confusing.
Dunno. I think it's ok
01:53:180 (6) - Delete.
02:30:573 (6) - Completely hidden, respace please.
03:25:751 (6) - Delete.

Fixed

The rhythm is confusing at times, but I guess it's just the song.

I hope so =)

Encrypto's Bad Omen:

00:19:858 (6) - Remove clap from the return.
01:58:322 (4,5) - Down one square, looks messy.
02:02:287 (1,2,3) - Align these.
02:53:930 (3,4,5,6) - Confusing stacking. Space these don't stack imo.

Fixed

Insane:

-- Stream spacing is a little wide.
-- Reduce the overall difficulty by 1.
-- This difficulty is way too confusing, the spacing is really hard to read and looks disorganised

%) Some parts fixed

00:19:323 (10,11) - Move this from under the slider it's way too confusing.
00:23:501 (9,10,11,1,2,3) - No. Back and forth streams play awful.
00:24:573 (5) - Move from under the slider.
00:30:144 (2,3,4,5,6) - Confusing.
Don't find it so
01:18:144 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - Gonna have to say I don't like these back and forth streams.

Apart from saying it is really confusing to play, there is nothing else to add.

Nice maps, not sure about Insane though =/
~ Star

1. I got offset: 3,577. Yours feels pretty solid though
2. Delete the .osb? Since it isn't being used

Xgor wrote:

[General]
hit0 missing in the skin, please skin it as you skinned the other hitbursts.

<< Fixed>>

Can't you please keep the break placement consistent with all difficulites,

<<Hm.. I can keep it on my difficulties, but not on Encrypto's one>>

[Easy+]
Everybody hates + difficulties noways, Just call it Normal because that what it is.

<<Now normal>>

Can't you map to the end please :3

<<In progress>>

I think higher tick rate would fit here. I would prefer it at 1.

<<Fixed>>

A bit higher AR OD please.

<<Fixed>>

00:29:287 (3,1) - (Suggestion) Align (1) to (3)'s sliderend.
01:00:573 (2,1) - ^ but to (2)

<<Fixed>>

[Normal]
I would call this somewhat of a Hard, sure a easy an Hard sure but it's feels more like an Hard than a Normal.

<<Now Hard>>

Raise AR and OD... Way too low for this difficulty. at least +2 to AR. (Also I think you need to raise stacking latency if you do that)

<<Fixed>>

00:58:430 (1,3) - Align?
02:39:144 (4,5,6,7,8,1) - I feel like you shouldn't make it go forward and back so much as it looks very messy right now.

<<Fixed>>

[Hard]
Oh wait... it got removed. fine with me though as Encrypto's difficulty fits the spot quite fine Between "Normal" and "Insane".

<<Many people wasn't happy with NHIII pattern, so I deleted it to make things easier

[Encrypto's Bad Omen]
Raise stacking latency please.... although you need to change a lot of spacing so it works much but that low stacking latency is pretty much never a good idea.

<<Fixed>>

The 3/4 sliders with one repeat is kinda weird here but it kinda works it a way..

Bit too many claps here.... it becomes kinda annoying.

<<I'm not so good in hitsounds, but it feels fine for me>>

00:15:572 (7) - This slider just looks... kinda wrong
01:53:287 - Please use soft sample set here.

<<Fixed>>

[Insane]
00:08:287 (4,5,6,1) - Align please.
00:16:858 (5,1,2) - ^
00:19:001 (9,10,11) - Not stacked correctly, move (10,11) directly under (9)
00:32:715 (8,1) - Align please.
00:44:930 (2,4) - ^
Bleh just look over the spacing, there is some stuff that could been aligned better and stuff and I'm sure you can spot most of it yourself.
01:52:858 (8,9,10) - Not stacked correctly here too.
02:37:001 (2,3,4) - ^
03:11:930 (1,2,3) - Kinda annoying that all those three circles are under other circles. I would prefer if you moved it up or down or moved the whole pattern so (1) is under (4).

<<Fixed>>

Encrypto wrote:

Good to see this is still going, Thunder ^-^
Even if I dont have Time to map for myself now, and it failed every time I tried...

Thunderstorm wrote:

Thanks for the mod, Charles, most part is fixed

Encrypto wrote:

Good to see this is still going, Thunder ^-^
Even if I dont have Time to map for myself now, and it failed every time I tried...

Oh, man, just don't give up =) I'd better rank this map with a long time, but it'll be high quality one, than rank much more, but it'll be worth maps ever. I'm think this way, it's really help's here

Vass_Bass wrote:

Привет <<Ку>>

General
БГ унылый <<Лучше нету. Из тех, что вписываются в тематику по моему мнению>>
На счет качества аудио, не уверена, но пишет что кбпс 211, а надо 128-192

Charles445 wrote:

Oh, don't let anybody give you crap about the mp3 bitrate. This map was made long before the 192 rule, so it is perfectly ok.

<<Так что обойдутся >>
01:12:144 - 01:19:001 - может убрать здесь киаи и просто оставить фонтан?
02:34:430 - здесь бы я тоже фонтан добавила

<<fixed>>

Normal
В начале, в тех местал где звук переходит с мягкого на нормальный сделай потише, а то по ушам бьет
00:53:501 (2) - я думаю не надо стаковать его
01:59:287 (1,2) - и это тоже
02:22:430 (1) - звук на нормал 02:23:287 (3) - начало слайдера мягкий звук 02:23:930 (4) - нормал звук
02:26:715 (2) - перемести на 1/2 назад + спейсинг
02:55:001 (5) - не надо новое комбо

<<fixed>>


Hard
бит снап 1/8 совершенно не нужен, достаточно 1/4 <<На 1/8 удобнее работать с тайминг секциями, именно поэтому такой снап дивайзор и стоит>>

HP = 6
OD = 6
<<И получаем, в понимании Осу, Инсэйн, отсюда паттерн будет NIII. И ещё пару лет я буду гнать велосипед, пока карта уйдёт в ранк >>

00:37:430 (3) - перемести назад на синюю секцию, а это 00:37:430 (4) - на белую
01:31:858 (4) - 2 клетки вправо о_О

<<fixed>>

Encrypto's Bad Omen
no need in 1/8
00:51:573 - add circle, not good moment for break
02:16:001 (6) - place there 02:15:787
02:16:215 (7) - place there 02:16:215 and prolong to 02:16:644

<<fixed>>

Insane
00:31:215 (1,2,3,4,5) - криво же

<<fixed>>


Стар

0_o wrote:

Normal
01:12:573 (1) - Recovering after spinners is one of the tougher skills for newbies to master. Seeing as this is the easiest difficulty, maybe consider removing this? I just reduce spinner 1/2, instead of removing note
01:53:715 (1) - ^ Same
01:59:287 (1,2,3,4) - This confused me a lot, maybe make 1,2,3 into a repeat slider? Done
02:34:858 (1) - Same as before Same

Hard
~

Encrypto
03:04:215 (3,4,5,6) - To me it was unintuitive having these 1/2 apart instead of 3/4.

Insane
00:59:072 (4) - I think it would play better making this into two circles. Done
01:45:680 (2) - Same as above. I dunno about other people but I really dislike when tiny sliders are thrown into streams, they are very awkward to hit. Done
02:21:358 (4) - ^ Done
02:57:465 (4,5,6,7) - My two least favourite stream techniques are the ones mentioned above and stacked streams I would either stack all or none of them. Done

OK mapset overall, a little plain perhaps but it's certainly fine from a technical standpoint. Have a star ^_^

1. The mp3 is 256 kbps, which is now unrankable. Re-encode it to 192 kbps.

1. The difficulty settings are rather high for the easiest difficulty of the mapset.
2. 00:03:573 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,1,2,3) - It's just a suggestion, but I think you should remove the sections that switch the sampleset to Normal and replace them with soft whistles. That way, the switch in hitsounds will sound better.
3. 00:09:573 (1,2,3) - The first 1/2 of the map appearing to be a stack is rather mean imo. New players don't play stacks well... I suggest you used a repeat slider here (so the player gets used to the rhythm). If you do, move the timing section to 00:10:001 - to avoid having different sliderslides. (when you have a timing section right on a beat, the hitsound changes are applied to the beat, now)
4. 00:16:430 (1) - Remove the whistle on the last beat and add a finish ? It sounds better to me and is more consistent with what you did previously.
5. 01:00:573 (2) - The second beat sounds extremely weird with soft. Besides, the sliderslide changes, and that sounds really bad too.
6. 01:07:965 - Move the timing section right on 01:08:073 - to avoid the sliderslide change.
7. 02:21:144 (2) - Here again, the soft beats sound weird, and the changing sliderslides sound rather bad.
8. 02:23:287 (3) - Changing sliderslides
9. 02:25:858 (1) - Same
10. 02:27:573 (1,2,3) - Same
11. The two breaks feel a bit out of place after the last kiai. Think you could map something in between ?

1. Here again, a lot of times, the sliderslide changes in the middle of a slider and it really sounds bad.
2. For the beginning, I suggest you use only the soft sampleset, for the same reason as for Normal.
3. 01:18:144 (1,2,3,4,5) - Do you think you can make a pattern with them ? I tihnk it would be better than just stacking them.
4. 02:47:287 (2,3,4) - This sounded extremely weird.

1. Why does this have a custom diff name when all the other diffs don't ? :/
2. Make it end at the same time as the other diffs.
3. A few sliders have the changing sliderslide problem.

1. LOTS of added 1/4s that make no sense and make the patterns confusing. For instance 00:37:323 (5) -
2. Same suggestion for the beginning.
3. Erm. Nothing in the song asks for 1/8 snaps. Resnap everything to 1/4.

Odaril wrote:

Please reply to this mod saying what you didn't fix (and what you did) and why. Remember these are all suggestions.
Also, if you have any question, feel free to ask me in-game

General

1. The mp3 is 256 kbps, which is now unrankable. Re-encode it to 192 kbps. [b]Ok, I'll get it shortly[/b]

Normal

1. The difficulty settings are rather high for the easiest difficulty of the mapset. Hm, I was change this diff already about 3-4 times, so I just dunno, how to make outcome easier.
2. 00:03:573 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,1,2,3) - It's just a suggestion, but I think you should remove the sections that switch the sampleset to Normal and replace them with soft whistles. That way, the switch in hitsounds will sound better.Done
3. 00:09:573 (1,2,3) - The first 1/2 of the map appearing to be a stack is rather mean imo. New players don't play stacks well... I suggest you used a repeat slider here (so the player gets used to the rhythm). If you do, move the timing section to 00:10:001 - to avoid having different sliderslides. (when you have a timing section right on a beat, the hitsound changes are applied to the beat, now) Done
4. 00:16:430 (1) - Remove the whistle on the last beat and add a finish ? It sounds better to me and is more consistent with what you did previously.Done
5. 01:00:573 (2) - The second beat sounds extremely weird with soft. Besides, the sliderslide changes, and that sounds really bad too.Done
6. 01:07:965 - Move the timing section right on 01:08:073 - to avoid the sliderslide change.Done
7. 02:21:144 (2) - Here again, the soft beats sound weird, and the changing sliderslides sound rather bad.Done
8. 02:23:287 (3) - Changing sliderslidesDone
9. 02:25:858 (1) - SameDone
10. 02:27:573 (1,2,3) - SameDone
11. The two breaks feel a bit out of place after the last kiai. Think you could map something in between ? Done

Hard

1. Here again, a lot of times, the sliderslide changes in the middle of a slider and it really sounds bad.Done
2. For the beginning, I suggest you use only the soft sampleset, for the same reason as for Normal.Done
3. 01:18:144 (1,2,3,4,5) - Do you think you can make a pattern with them ? I tihnk it would be better than just stacking them. Done
4. 02:47:287 (2,3,4) - This sounded extremely weird.Done

Encrypto's Bad Omen

1. Why does this have a custom diff name when all the other diffs don't ? :/ Oh, I really don't see a promblem with it. I'll ask Encrypto about it, when I'll see him
2. Make it end at the same time as the other diffs. Done
3. A few sliders have the changing sliderslide problem.Done

Insane

1. LOTS of added 1/4s that make no sense and make the patterns confusing. For instance 00:37:323 (5) -
2. Same suggestion for the beginning.
3. Erm. Nothing in the song asks for 1/8 snaps. Resnap everything to 1/4.
   Thinking about remappin' some parts.

For the changing sliderslides, you can add a custom soft sliderslide to your folder. Catch me in-game, I'll explain how to do if you don't know how. The difficulties were rather boxy, which tends to be bland to play (because there are only 4 directions to follow...). The mapset needs a bit more work, but you'll get there eventually. Good luck !