Nightwish - Bye Bye Beautiful [Osu|Taiko] · forum

zorefire

Joined October 2012

zorefire 2014-03-29T22:53:22+00:00

From modding queue
[Normal]
00:30:889 (1,2,3) - this should have been centered into the map makes it look more clean + its the beginning to lyrics
01:47:105 (1,2,3) - same here why not start the map centered?
02:08:997 (4) - like this looks much better https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/1464630
02:15:078 - I think it should be mapped up to here
[Hard]
00:21:767 - circle should be added here
00:38:186 (2) - suggestion http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/1464645
00:47:916 (2) - ???? http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/1464652
00:48:727 (3) - ? http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/1464657
01:32:511 (7) - that last note I don't know

01:48:727 (3) - I think it should have a curve

That's all Good luck ranking

neonat

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neonat 2014-04-02T08:46:11+00:00

zorefire wrote:
From modding queue
[Normal]
00:30:889 (1,2,3) - this should have been centered into the map makes it look more clean + its the beginning to lyrics
01:47:105 (1,2,3) - same here why not start the map centered?
02:08:997 (4) - like this looks much better https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/1464630 changed
02:15:078 - I think it should be mapped up to here Felt for the Normal, having it stop before that portion of vocals gives better rest for players
[Hard]
00:21:767 - circle should be added here making same as 00:24:402 (4) though
00:38:186 (2) - suggestion http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/1464645 doesn't curve enough to my liking to go to (3) though :\
00:47:916 (2) - ???? http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/1464652 meant to be a gradual inclination downwards, thus the angle change isn't 90 but less
00:48:727 (3) - ? http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/1464657
01:32:511 (7) - that last note I don't know It's still fine though :c
01:48:727 (3) - I think it should have a curve changed shape

That's all Good luck ranking

thanks for the mod~

yurunneram

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Joined January 2012

yurunneram 2014-04-02T12:14:21+00:00

Ugh I dun do well on these kinda songs O^O The only one I could mod was Normal and it was pretty fine except this:

00:26:024 (1) - I think putting it at around x288 y272 would be better flowing. Stacks aren't very welcome in Easys anyways

Yea no kudosu thx

neonat

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neonat 2014-04-03T00:08:28+00:00

Thanks for taking a look though ^^

CrazyErrorMan

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CrazyErrorMan 2014-04-05T01:34:12+00:00

Mod from my Que.....
Hello, I find your map very good.
I don't have much to say.
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Thoughts about each diff
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=Normal=
Okay, I think it would be renamed easy.
I do find it quite easy.
Also, make a new map normal.
=Hard=
One of the best maps I have seen in a while.
Keep up the good work.
=Insane=
This is one of the most insane maps I have played on CTB...
Generally, I can play insane maps on CTB...
But not this one.
Also, I think that the HP rate on the insane should be harder as well.
---------------------------------------------------------
Thanks.

neonat

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neonat 2014-04-05T12:55:05+00:00

Changed the HP drain of Insane

CrazyErrorMan

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CrazyErrorMan 2014-04-11T20:50:58+00:00

Do you mind if I make a guest diff on your map?

neonat

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neonat 2014-04-12T02:44:02+00:00

Sorry, not taking any more standard guest difficulties for this song, maybe possible future nightwish songs ^^''
If you meant standard difficulties that is.

ts8zs

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ts8zs 2014-04-20T04:58:54+00:00

from queue
[Shiro's Insane]
oh,old style._.
00:19:335 (6) - Ctrl+G will better flow
00:32:916 (6,7,8,9,10,11) - https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/1529483
00:50:348 (1) - Ctrl+G
01:25:416 (6,7) - swap
02:05:348 (6,7) - swap
02:11:429 (5,9) - swap
02:35:348 (10,11) - https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/1529494
03:01:902 (2,3) - swap
03:12:646 (5) - move to 4's head
03:18:321 (2) - Ctrl+G
>03:19:335 (3) - 208,240
[Hard]
03:41:429 (3,4) - too narrow
Nothing found
[Normal]
00:26:429 (2,3) - too narrow
Nothing found

neonat

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neonat 2014-04-20T07:33:21+00:00

ts8zs wrote:
from queue
[Hard]
03:41:429 (3,4) - too narrow
Nothing found
[Normal]
00:26:429 (2,3) - too narrow
Nothing found

Made them less compact, thanks~

Shiro

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Shiro 2014-04-20T12:21:28+00:00

ts8zs wrote:
[Shiro's Insane]
oh,old style._.
00:19:335 (6) - Ctrl+G will better flow If I do that, I'm going to ruin the circular movement that leads into 00:19:538 (1) -
00:32:916 (6,7,8,9,10,11) - https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/1529483 I changed the pattern a bit to have a more snappy movement, but not exactly to what you proposed
00:50:348 (1) - Ctrl+G If I do that, the repeat from 00:50:348 (1) - will be hidden under 00:49:740 (8) - and it would lead to rather bad flow
01:25:416 (6,7) - swap that would lead to a MASSIVE jump and kind of lose the little bit of structure there is at this point with the repeated pattern
02:05:348 (6,7) - swap I actually like that one, changed
02:11:429 (5,9) - swap okay
02:35:348 (10,11) - https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/1529494 That doesn't play well, the sliders don't follow the general movement here if I do that
03:01:902 (2,3) - swap I don't think anything really calls for a jump between 1 and 2 at this point, the jumps are supposed to emphasize the vocals
03:12:646 (5) - move to 4's head Oh, good catch
03:18:321 (2) - Ctrl+G
>03:19:335 (3) - 208,240 introducing higher spacing anywhere in this point defeats the purpose of the entire section which is supposed to be soft and relaxing, as opposed to the rest of the map which is very jumpy and rather intense

Thanks for the mod !

http://puu.sh/8g8EC/1555f68282.osu

Narwhal Prime

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Joined November 2012

Narwhal Prime 2014-05-15T21:38:07+00:00

Hi neonat and Shiro; here's a mod from my queue

[Normal]
00:54:402 (5) - Nitpick: move this up until y-coordinate is 40 (for alignment with 00:52:781 (3,4) )
01:06:970 (1,2) - Align these sliders, or mimic the positioning of 01:09:808 (1,2) - OR try flipping around the sliders, as shown: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/1609709
02:00:078 (1,2,3) - Can be aligned in a straight line, like 00:30:889 (1,2,3), along with some tweaking to preserve spacing and blanket - http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/1609744
04:04:538 (2) - Doesn't quite flow well... have this one mirror 04:03:321 (1) - : rotate by 45 degrees and move until spacing is even: http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/1609801

[Hard]
01:19:943 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - So I feel that the way you positioned the single notes in 01:16:294 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - (and similar sections) - slightly off from the sliders - is pretty neat and flows well. This section has a similar timing, but it doesn't quite have that feel, and the sliders feel misaligned again (flow drop). I took a stab at repositioning, but it's just a suggestion: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/1609877
02:17:916 (4,5,6) - The jump from slider 4's end to 5 felt a bit awkward. Try this for better flow? http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/1609849. (I took a hint from Shiro's article a while back, in the flow drops section: http://osumodding.tumblr.com/post/57704081634)
02:47:308 (4) - Extend this to be a back-and-forth slider? https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/1609907
04:02:713 (6,7) - Jump is a bit too big: it makes more sense to have a bigger jump at 04:02:916 (7,1) - though.

[Shiro's Insane]
00:32:511 (5) - Shorten this from 3/4 to 1/2 slider - 1/2 feels cleaner since the singer doesn't drag out the word "hills".
03:13:456 (9,10) - This area of the map feels a bit "tight". Maybe put more space between the two notes for smoother jump between slider and stream. (1.30 or 1.40 felt about right)

That's all I got. No kudosu if this mod wasn't helpful.
I enjoy Nightwish songs! osu has helped me discover this band. Good luck with getting this ranked!

Regards,
NP

Shiro

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Shiro 2014-05-16T11:49:35+00:00

Narwhal Prime wrote:
[Shiro's Insane]
00:32:511 (5) - Shorten this from 3/4 to 1/2 slider - 1/2 feels cleaner since the singer doesn't drag out the word "hills". Actually, she does: you can hear the "l" sound here 00:32:815 -
03:13:456 (9,10) - This area of the map feels a bit "tight". Maybe put more space between the two notes for smoother jump between slider and stream. (1.30 or 1.40 felt about right) The point is that there's no jump ! And there shouldn't be any. This plays like a stack, you can just leave your cusor over the head of 03:13:456 (9) - and you'll catch everything properly !

>.<
Thank you for the mod though !

neonat

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neonat 2014-05-17T04:49:26+00:00

Narwhal Prime wrote:
Hi neonat and Shiro; here's a mod from my queue

[Normal]
00:54:402 (5) - Nitpick: move this up until y-coordinate is 40 (for alignment with 00:52:781 (3,4) ) I think I'm fine with my current alignment
01:06:970 (1,2) - Align these sliders, or mimic the positioning of 01:09:808 (1,2) - OR try flipping around the sliders, as shown: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/1609709 I placed (2) lower to help ease the flow
02:00:078 (1,2,3) - Can be aligned in a straight line, like 00:30:889 (1,2,3), along with some tweaking to preserve spacing and blanket - http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/1609744 don't intend to make it straight
04:04:538 (2) - Doesn't quite flow well... have this one mirror 04:03:321 (1) - : rotate by 45 degrees and move until spacing is even: http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/1609801 I think I will stick to what I got

[Hard]
01:19:943 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - So I feel that the way you positioned the single notes in 01:16:294 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - (and similar sections) - slightly off from the sliders - is pretty neat and flows well. This section has a similar timing, but it doesn't quite have that feel, and the sliders feel misaligned again (flow drop). I took a stab at repositioning, but it's just a suggestion: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/1609877 probably because you felt 01:21:970 (7) moves weirdly to the next object. I changed it to a curve
02:17:916 (4,5,6) - The jump from slider 4's end to 5 felt a bit awkward. Try this for better flow? http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/1609849. (I took a hint from Shiro's article a while back, in the flow drops section: http://osumodding.tumblr.com/post/57704081634) no change here
02:47:308 (4) - Extend this to be a back-and-forth slider? https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/1609907 nah
04:02:713 (6,7) - Jump is a bit too big: it makes more sense to have a bigger jump at 04:02:916 (7,1) - though. keeping that spacing between 6 and 7 but giving more space between 7 and 1

That's all I got. No kudosu if this mod wasn't helpful.
I enjoy Nightwish songs! osu has helped me discover this band. Good luck with getting this ranked!

Regards,
NP

Thanks

Krfawy

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Krfawy 2014-05-18T21:43:11+00:00

Hello! I am Krfawy from 'Bleeding Queue' and I must confess my help is really... em... nothing! I can't see anything except offset which would be 3304 IMO. But the rest is really AWESOME *____* I don't know, maybe I could advice to make NC at 04:02:493 (12) in Shiro's difficulty but I don't see anything wrong, really. The mapset is really cool and nice!

K, Insane is really insane because it's hard to read, but it's Insane, so it's OK. XDDD

Good Luck! ^o^ Sorry for my... hum... 'mod'. ._.

Giralda

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Giralda 2014-05-28T20:42:45+00:00

hi sorry for the delayed mod

from Kihhou & Giralda's Modding Queue

[Normal]

00:16:294 (1,2) - These sliders would look nicer if they are placed directly across from each other -> http://puu.sh/94VSQ/cc63729063.jpg ; alternatively you could do a blanket as well -> http://puu.sh/94W4g/cfdcf5ac9b.jpg
00:32:511 (3,1) - The overlap here doesn't look too good, so I would suggest to move 00:34:132 (1,2,3) away from 00:30:889 (1,2,3) to avoid the overlap. Starting it out like this works too -> http://puu.sh/94Wp8/95f4ea1cdd.jpg
00:48:727 (3) - Rotate this slider 2 degrees, selection center to improve the blanket with 00:49:943 (4)
01:01:294 (3) - Using two circles here works better since the stronger note is at 01:01:700. Alternatively, you could use a circle at 01:01:294, then a 1/1 slider at 01:01:700 since the word "feel" starts at 01:01:700 and the player would want to hold down the slider track for that entire word, and then a 1/1 slider at 01:02:511 as well. -> http://puu.sh/94XkU/89a1026928.jpg
01:03:321 (5) - Add finish here for the stronger emphasis on the vocals, as cymbals can be heard here as well.
01:04:538 (2) - Same as 01:01:294 (3)
01:06:565 (4) - Add finish here for emphasis as well.
01:09:808 (1) - ^
01:12:240 (5) - Remove the repeat and add a circle with finish at 01:13:051. I feel that this way, hitting the finish is much better than passing through it with a slider end.
01:53:592 (1,2,3) - Move this entire combo left a little bit for symmetry
02:12:240 (4) - Move this slider so that it is directly across from 02:11:429 (3)
02:19:538 (5) - Add finish here to match the emphasis with the music
02:21:970 (4) - Same as 01:12:240 (5)
02:26:024 (5) - add finish
02:46:700 (2) - You could do a blanket using the tail with 02:45:483 (1)
03:10:213 (3) - You could rotate -21 degrees for a nice blanket with 03:09:402 (2). This would allow nicer flow going into 03:11:429 (1)
03:49:132 (3,4,1) - This doesn't flow too well. How about moving 03:50:348 (4) - to blanket with 03:49:132 (3) and then do something like this with 03:50:754 (1,2) -> http://puu.sh/95dF5/2027f347b3.jpg
03:37:375 (5) - add finishhhhhh
03:39:808 (4) - Add finish on slider end

[Hard]

00:58:659 (7,8) - You should maintain the same 1.0x distance snap here to maintain consistency.
01:48:727 (3) - I think putting this horizontally interprets the vocals better.
01:56:429 (6,7,1) - Flow is somewhat weird here. Try something like this? -> http://puu.sh/95fgZ/9535ca28a9.jpg
02:10:416 (2) - Rotate this slider 9 degrees, selection center so that the slider bodies are perpendicular.

[Shiro's Insane]
AIBAT:
04:00:890 (5) -

00:16:294 - normal-hitwhistles starting from here are a bit too loud. I would suggest reducing it to 70% volume.
00:18:727 (4,5) - There seems to be a very small overlap with 00:18:321 (3) and 00:18:727 (4), but there isn't one with 00:18:727 (4) and 00:19:132 (5). Adjust according to your liking on whether or not you want to keep or remove the small overlap.
00:32:105 (4) - For aesthetic purposes, I feel that putting this slider directly across from (3) looks better and still plays similar to before the change. http://puu.sh/94Sud/ef272b118c.jpg
00:42:240 (9) - The combos start to get pretty big here so you should do an NC here, but it would break your combo consistency. Up to you.
00:47:105 (1) - I feel that holding the vocals here allows better emphasis of track being mapped. You can also blanket with 00:46:294 (7) by doing something like this -> http://puu.sh/8YOPf.jpg
01:03:727 (2,3) - It would be pretty cool if you move the (2) under the slider and move the (3) up so it blankets with 01:03:321 (1), allowing a nice flow going into 01:04:132 (4)
01:05:348 (7,8) - Could make some nice triangle patterns using these two circles with the slider heads and tails. (7) can make a triangle pattern with the tail of (5) and (6); and (8) and make a triangle pattern by using the head of (5) and the tail of (6). -> http://puu.sh/94UY4/0e6f840a0b.jpg
01:21:565 (7,8) - I think you could move this lower you could blanket it with 01:21:159 (6)
01:25:416 (6,8) - If you Ctrl+G these two circles, I think it would be play a little nicer because 01:25:011 (4,5) is a big jump already and then you have a 01:25:416 (6) looking something like an anti-jump, which doesn't fit so well in a kiai and I feel that in order to maintain momentum, swapping the position for these two would play better.
02:04:943 (5) - I feel that a normal-hitwhistle here would fit nicely with the vocals due to the higher vocal pitch.
03:29:673 (2,3,4) - The gap between (2) and (3) and (3) and (4) are visably different. Since this part is still a slow section and there isn't any indication of the music speeding up, I feel maintaining the spacing gap under these sliders for better aesthetics and consistency.
03:32:511 (6,7,8) - This plays really awkward because going from (6) to (7) is a weird angle and as a result, makes (8) difficult as well. I know you're trying to make it look like 03:31:700 (4,5), but 03:32:511 (6,7,8) just doesn't play the same way. So maybe flipping it like this -> http://puu.sh/94TYS/7baf2de5d8.jpg would allow better flow into (8), or moving it up to allow circular flow, and then going straight down from (8) so the player can still hit 03:33:321 (9) without much difficulty.
03:41:835 (5) - Move this a little closer to the right to make a nice triangle with 03:41:024 (2,3)
03:53:592 (1) - Copy the slider from 03:53:186 (10) and hold Ctrl and then H + J to make a nicer looking slider to oval flow from.

Good luck!

Shiro

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Shiro 2014-05-30T06:48:19+00:00

Giralda wrote:
[Shiro's Insane]
AIBAT:
04:00:890 (5) - o.O how did it get unsnapped
00:16:294 - normal-hitwhistles starting from here are a bit too loud. I would suggest reducing it to 70% volume. Are you using 100-100 music/sounds balance ? o.o they sound fine to me
00:18:727 (4,5) - There seems to be a very small overlap with 00:18:321 (3) and 00:18:727 (4), but there isn't one with 00:18:727 (4) and 00:19:132 (5). Adjust according to your liking on whether or not you want to keep or remove the small overlap. That's really picky, but fixed.
00:32:105 (4) - For aesthetic purposes, I feel that putting this slider directly across from (3) looks better and still plays similar to before the change. http://puu.sh/94Sud/ef272b118c.jpg 00:31:700 (3,4,5) - the heads of these sliders form a line (check with a slider), that's why they're placed the way they are
00:42:240 (9) - The combos start to get pretty big here so you should do an NC here, but it would break your combo consistency. Up to you. I'll keep the comboing consistent - 15 notes is still acceptable for a combo
00:47:105 (1) - I feel that holding the vocals here allows better emphasis of track being mapped. You can also blanket with 00:46:294 (7) by doing something like this -> http://puu.sh/8YOPf.jpg It wouldn't be consistent with 00:43:862 (1) - and... The vocal IS being held since it's a repeat slider ?... o.O
01:03:727 (2,3) - It would be pretty cool if you move the (2) under the slider and move the (3) up so it blankets with 01:03:321 (1), allowing a nice flow going into 01:04:132 (4) Then the flow from 01:03:321 (1) - to 01:03:727 (2) - would be horrid; flow is fine as it is
01:05:348 (7,8) - Could make some nice triangle patterns using these two circles with the slider heads and tails. (7) can make a triangle pattern with the tail of (5) and (6); and (8) and make a triangle pattern by using the head of (5) and the tail of (6). -> http://puu.sh/94UY4/0e6f840a0b.jpg that would fuck the spacing D:
01:21:565 (7,8) - I think you could move this lower you could blanket it with 01:21:159 (6) no need to, the slider's already blanketting 01:19:943 (2) - and it wouldn't fit the spacing
01:25:416 (6,8) - If you Ctrl+G these two circles, I think it would be play a little nicer because 01:25:011 (4,5) is a big jump already and then you have a 01:25:416 (6) looking something like an anti-jump, which doesn't fit so well in a kiai and I feel that in order to maintain momentum, swapping the position for these two would play better. Doing that would lose the structure of these jumps (with the normal spacing for 01:24:402 (1,2) - 01:25:213 (5,6) - ) and it is a lot more confusing to play because of that
02:04:943 (5) - I feel that a normal-hitwhistle here would fit nicely with the vocals due to the higher vocal pitch. You're missing the point of the normal-whistle pattern, which follows the violin kind of instrument on 02:02:511 (7,10,1) - for example, just like 00:43:051 (14,15,1) -
03:29:673 (2,3,4) - The gap between (2) and (3) and (3) and (4) are visably different. Since this part is still a slow section and there isn't any indication of the music speeding up, I feel maintaining the spacing gap under these sliders for better aesthetics and consistency. that follows the speedup, if you check, the spacing IS kept
03:32:511 (6,7,8) - This plays really awkward because going from (6) to (7) is a weird angle and as a result, makes (8) difficult as well. I know you're trying to make it look like 03:31:700 (4,5), but 03:32:511 (6,7,8) just doesn't play the same way. So maybe flipping it like this -> http://puu.sh/94TYS/7baf2de5d8.jpg would allow better flow into (8), or moving it up to allow circular flow, and then going straight down from (8) so the player can still hit 03:33:321 (9) without much difficulty. That plays absolutely horrible. The whole point of these 1/4 sliders is to consider them to be equivalent to hitcircles, not sliders. You won't be able to play this following sliders like you do with longer ones, so you're supposed to go in a straight line from the end of (6) to the head of (7) then to (8) without following the slider (7). This goes true for every pattern using this 1/4 slider+circle as obviously shown by 03:45:483 (6,7,8) - and after
03:41:835 (5) - Move this a little closer to the right to make a nice triangle with 03:41:024 (2,3) not sure what you mean here
03:53:592 (1) - Copy the slider from 03:53:186 (10) and hold Ctrl and then H + J to make a nicer looking slider to oval flow from. Copied (1) to change (10) instead, which does not fuck up the spacing

Thanks for mod. http://puu.sh/97igJ/a20cc50039.osu

neonat

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neonat 2014-05-30T14:20:50+00:00

Giralda wrote:
hi sorry for the delayed mod

from Kihhou & Giralda's Modding Queue

[Normal]
00:16:294 (1,2) - These sliders would look nicer if they are placed directly across from each other -> http://puu.sh/94VSQ/cc63729063.jpg ; alternatively you could do a blanket as well -> http://puu.sh/94W4g/cfdcf5ac9b.jpg I think I will keep it as it is
00:32:511 (3,1) - The overlap here doesn't look too good, so I would suggest to move 00:34:132 (1,2,3) away from 00:30:889 (1,2,3) to avoid the overlap. Starting it out like this works too -> http://puu.sh/94Wp8/95f4ea1cdd.jpg will consider changing
00:48:727 (3) - Rotate this slider 2 degrees, selection center to improve the blanket with 00:49:943 (4) I fixed the blanket
01:01:294 (3) - Using two circles here works better since the stronger note is at 01:01:700. Alternatively, you could use a circle at 01:01:294, then a 1/1 slider at 01:01:700 since the word "feel" starts at 01:01:700 and the player would want to hold down the slider track for that entire word, and then a 1/1 slider at 01:02:511 as well. -> http://puu.sh/94XkU/89a1026928.jpg
01:03:321 (5) - Add finish here for the stronger emphasis on the vocals, as cymbals can be heard here as well. I do not hear the cymbals
01:04:538 (2) - Same as 01:01:294 (3)
01:06:565 (4) - Add finish here for emphasis as well.
01:09:808 (1) - ^
01:12:240 (5) - Remove the repeat and add a circle with finish at 01:13:051. I feel that this way, hitting the finish is much better than passing through it with a slider end. changed
01:53:592 (1,2,3) - Move this entire combo left a little bit for symmetry it's ok
02:12:240 (4) - Move this slider so that it is directly across from 02:11:429 (3)
02:19:538 (5) - Add finish here to match the emphasis with the music I do not think it needs as much emphasis as those parts that already have the finish sound
02:21:970 (4) - Same as 01:12:240 (5)
02:26:024 (5) - add finish
02:46:700 (2) - You could do a blanket using the tail with 02:45:483 (1)
03:10:213 (3) - You could rotate -21 degrees for a nice blanket with 03:09:402 (2). This would allow nicer flow going into 03:11:429 (1) changed it somewhat
03:49:132 (3,4,1) - This doesn't flow too well. How about moving 03:50:348 (4) - to blanket with 03:49:132 (3) and then do something like this with 03:50:754 (1,2) -> http://puu.sh/95dF5/2027f347b3.jpg
03:37:375 (5) - add finishhhhhh I find that too extra
03:39:808 (4) - Add finish on slider end ^
[Hard]
00:58:659 (7,8) - You should maintain the same 1.0x distance snap here to maintain consistency.
01:48:727 (3) - I think putting this horizontally interprets the vocals better. but if you hear it, she actually goes up in tone near the start of the slider
01:56:429 (6,7,1) - Flow is somewhat weird here. Try something like this? -> http://puu.sh/95fgZ/9535ca28a9.jpg changed it differently
02:10:416 (2) - Rotate this slider 9 degrees, selection center so that the slider bodies are perpendicular. rotated it, dunno how many degrees though

Good luck!

Thanks

Jerry

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Jerry 2014-08-09T06:11:32+00:00

Have my starsssssssss

~

~

neonat

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Topic Starter

neonat 2014-08-09T14:24:11+00:00

Jerry wrote:
Have my starsssssssss

~ ~

thanks

Jerry

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Jerry 2014-08-11T13:42:58+00:00

erm, neonat @@

Can you update the Oni diff? http://puu.sh/aNSou/93a89c7bc0.osu
We managed to finish the collab in time .-.

Sorry for the inconvenience orz

neonat

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Topic Starter

neonat 2014-08-15T17:10:16+00:00

Ok

Q____X

Q____X 2014-08-15T19:04:54+00:00

Hi here is my mod

Muzukashii

01:09:808 (45) - add d
01:09:808 (45) - change to k
01:44:267 - add d

Oni

00:27:646 (14) - remove, here are two notes
00:36:767 (22) - change to d
01:18:929 (80) - I suggest change to k
02:26:834 (60,61) - I suggest change to k
03:34:943 (23,24) - ^
03:38:186 (43,44) - ^

Good luck

Evening

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Joined December 2012

Evening 2014-08-17T04:17:57+00:00

[Oni]

01:00:686 (3) - The vocal here seems to be of the same pitch as the previous one, I would suggest to use a kat
01:03:929 (15) - Same goes to notes similar
01:07:173 (29) - etc.

01:19:538 (84) - I would suggest to use a kat here | Since similar notes like 01:14:673 (59,67,75) - were used as kats in a similar fashion, using a don there feels a bit underemphasized
01:40:011 (53,54,55) - This pattern feels overemphasized with kats, the music is rather low in pitch here to have the same patterning as compared to 01:38:592 (46,47,48,49) - , I would suggest to use less kats there
02:21:767 (31) - Maybe use a don here instead? | There's quite alot of kats here, since this vocal is slightly lower in pitch, I would suggest to use a don here
02:26:024 - Map to the vocals in this part? It feels rather plain
02:29:267 (75) - Finisher?

02:59:875 (10) - Might want to emphasize this note with a K due to the cymbal

Aimod :

00:27:646 - Overlap ( you have probably fixed it )

SB :

Do you want to move cdh.png a bit higher? I think it would look nicer if both jerry.png 's and cdh.png's letter "y" overlap so it creates a more smooth transition when fading

[Muzu]

00:09:808 (20) - k here instead ? | This feels higher in pitch
00:54:200 - Probably can improve on this rhythm here with some 1/2-ish rhythm instead of a rigid 1/1-ish rhythm due to the vocals
01:12:848 (56) - Remove this? 01:13:051 (57) - This note gets emphasized better imo
02:00:078 (54) - D here? | I hear a light cymbal here, it might be an appriopriate point to emphasize the starting of a new rhythm also
02:42:038 (94) - Remove? | Emphasizes the next finisher better, it feels like the finisher is clumped in a pool of 1/2 notes
02:47:713 (26) - Move 1/2 earlier? | According to the drums in the music it should be 1/2 early
03:17:916 - Aren't you going to lower the volume like oni?
03:27:646 - Raise it linearly on the spinner
03:56:632 (5) - Remove to emphasize the next finisher?

SB :
Same as Oni

Nothing else, good luck owo/

Asagi Mutsuki

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Asagi Mutsuki 2014-08-22T14:02:50+00:00

For some reason when I clicked "Post" my whole response just disappeared and going back doesn't recover it ;w;

But still, changed a pretty large portion from the mods! If you want to know what I had changed (or not) and why, just poke me in pm!

Le code for Oni

osu file format v13

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416,224,187375,1,0,0:0:0:0:
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416,224,187781,1,8,0:0:0:0:
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416,192,190416,1,8,0:0:0:0:
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416,192,191024,1,8,0:0:0:0:
432,192,191227,1,0,0:0:0:0:
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384,192,193051,1,0,0:0:0:0:
384,192,193254,1,0,0:0:0:0:
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448,192,193862,1,8,0:0:0:0:
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512,144,241294,1,12,0:0:0:0:
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512,176,248389,1,12,0:0:0:0:
512,176,248591,1,4,0:0:0:0:

hehe

1,961 posts

Joined November 2012

hehe 2014-08-25T09:50:22+00:00

more slider variety plox

00:28:456 (3,4) - feels better to end 4 as horizontal or downward
00:38:997 (3,4) - nazi blanket
01:13:051 - unlike the others, this is really loud, could appreciate a note here
02:31:700 (6) - follow the pre ious chorus and use a long slider
02:55:821 (2,3,4,5) - not feeling it, this would be great though : http://puu.sh/b759S/1fd8d6764e.jpg

Nwolf

2,604 posts

Joined September 2012

Nwolf 2014-08-26T12:58:21+00:00

woof from queue :3

[Muzu]

Why just "Muzu" lol

00:10:213 (21,22,23) - Change to ddk, fits better and is more consistent
00:30:889 - 00:55:213 - Think you should decide whether you want kats on 2nd/4th beat or 1st/3rd, it's kinda weird that it switches.
00:33:727 (11) - And not paying attention to above mod, this should be a kat anyway because pitch :3
01:01:497 (16) - Maybe I just can't figure out how you map but there's nothing here, while 01:00:686 - here you could follow vocals (maybe)
01:03:929 - and then maybe add a don here
01:07:173 - ^
01:08:794 (41,42) - Hm... think this rhythm appears quite random. I would suggest mapping a note on the white tick and getting rid of one or both of the notes, so the rhythm stays more clear.
01:15:686 (65) - ^
01:19:132 (78) - Kat, maybe? For vocals, snare and <more>
02:13:051 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - Finishers cause it's like that in Oni and 00:56:835 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) -
03:14:673 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - ^
03:36:565 (22) - Find it more interesting if you keep up that 1/1 kat rhythm, where possible.
03:49:132 (71) - ^
03:51:970 (83) - ^

[Oni]

01:22:882 (2,3) - cdh pls
01:39:605 (51) - hm move to 01:40:011 - to keep 1/1 breaks consistent?
01:53:592 - 01:56:429 - why suddenly kat on 1st/3rd beat ;w;
02:26:226 (57) - Delete this note to give the song the breaks it deserves, it is not this dense
03:31:092 (2) - ^
03:37:578 (40) - ^
03:44:065 (77) - ^
03:43:862 - 03:47:105 - Don't do kats on the offbeat only if the song doesn't support it

baaaaaka good luck :3

Skyhmer

372 posts

Joined November 2013

Skyhmer 2014-08-27T05:30:14+00:00

Insane
-------------------------
00:40:619 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - Spacing changes feel very weird here. would keep the distance here the same.

00:56:632 (15) - Jump feels bad incomparison to previous jumps, move close to 14?

01:25:619 (7) - feels really out of place, move closer.

02:13:456 (3) - Really does not feel nice for this difficulty, the 1/4 really disrupts the beat delete or replace with single note, maybe a very far jump?

02:14:673 (3) - ^ The same

02:41:227 (4,8) - Moving these two to the left would certainly feel nice.

03:36:970 (10,11) - would recommend using the 03:36:159 (7,8) pattern here

Shiro

Global Moderator

4,984 posts

Joined May 2009

Shiro 2014-08-27T10:27:13+00:00

Gleipnirx11 wrote:
Insane
-------------------------
00:40:619 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - Spacing changes feel very weird here. would keep the distance here the same. There is only one spacing change here: 00:41:429 (5) - after this note. The point is to separate the combo in two half-measures, to lead into 00:42:240 (9,10,11,12,13) - and eventually introduce the sliderwhistle pattern. The vocals at this point offered no appropriate build-up to the introduction of violins, so I had to come up with something with the drums.

00:56:632 (15) - Jump feels bad incomparison to previous jumps, move close to 14? Changed the jumps to be more consistent. Not sure whether it fits your idea or not. >.<

01:25:619 (7) - feels really out of place, move closer. That was moved closer as a consequence of previous pattern fix.

02:13:456 (3) - Really does not feel nice for this difficulty, the 1/4 really disrupts the beat delete or replace with single note, maybe a very far jump?
02:14:673 (3) - ^ The same
I'm keeping the 1/4, but I wanted to get rid of the 1/4 slider, so I reworked the pattern.

02:41:227 (4,8) - Moving these two to the left would certainly feel nice. Why ? o.O

03:36:970 (10,11) - would recommend using the 03:36:159 (7,8) pattern here Can't do. The idea is to separate the new combo with the big slider jump. Having the same pattern for both would break this.

Thanks for the mod!
http://puu.sh/b9RYg/a5b2ecda0e.osu

neonat

Beatmap Nominator

3,528 posts

Joined April 2012

Topic Starter

neonat 2014-08-27T11:26:08+00:00

handsome wrote:
more slider variety plox

00:28:456 (3,4) - feels better to end 4 as horizontal or downward
00:38:997 (3,4) - nazi blanket

Adjusted these mentioned areas, in the way I can. Thanks

Asagi Mutsuki

osu!trivium Champion

1,469 posts

Joined February 2013

Asagi Mutsuki 2014-08-27T13:15:33+00:00

Nwolf wrote:
woof from queue :3 meow :3

[Muzu]

Why just "Muzu" lol Changed to Muzukashii

00:10:213 (21,22,23) - Change to ddk, fits better and is more consistent ddkonsistent
00:30:889 - 00:55:213 - Think you should decide whether you want kats on 2nd/4th beat or 1st/3rd, it's kinda weird that it switches. i'm basically just mapping to the song here with consideration of balance between don kat stuff ;w;
00:33:727 (11) - And not paying attention to above mod, this should be a kat anyway because pitch :3 is it weird that I really think it fits much better as a don
01:01:497 (16) - Maybe I just can't figure out how you map but there's nothing here, while 01:00:686 - here you could follow vocals (maybe) meh decided to remove the note completely instead
01:03:929 - and then maybe add a don here b...but d k d k d k pattern is really intuitive to play without straying too far from the song itself ;w;
01:07:173 - ^ ^
01:08:794 (41,42) - Hm... think this rhythm appears quite random. I would suggest mapping a note on the white tick and getting rid of one or both of the notes, so the rhythm stays more clear.
01:15:686 (65) - ^
01:19:132 (78) - Kat, maybe? For vocals, snare and <more> k
02:13:051 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - Finishers cause it's like that in Oni and 00:56:835 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - I just wanted to make them easier to hit for Muzu players D:
03:14:673 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - ^ ^
03:36:565 (22) - Find it more interesting if you keep up that 1/1 kat rhythm, where possible. k
03:49:132 (71) - ^ k
03:51:970 (83) - ^ b...but the vocals doesn't suit the double kdks D:

[Oni]

01:22:882 (2,3) - cdh pls i thought the vocals was in 3/4 while I'm mapping this lol. moved the first note 1/4 later
01:39:605 (51) - hm move to 01:40:011 - to keep 1/1 breaks consistent? meh keeping this for now in case jerry intended to follow the music only here
01:53:592 - 01:56:429 - why suddenly kat on 1st/3rd beat ;w; I don't see anything wrong with it ;w; pls with all these kats you mod more and more like lzenxl k
02:26:226 (57) - Delete this note to give the song the breaks it deserves, it is not this dense k
03:31:092 (2) - ^ k
03:37:578 (40) - ^ k
03:44:065 (77) - ^ k
03:43:862 - 03:47:105 - Don't do kats on the offbeat only if the song doesn't support it why not

baaaaaka good luck :3 Thanks bakaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaawolf!

;w;
will send the .osu codes via pm lol

Totoro le Pacha

241 posts

Joined March 2012

Totoro le Pacha 2014-08-27T13:32:50+00:00

OHAYOOO. Neonat's asked me a mod, and because he already saved me with his queue, I mod it now

Général

[General]
Hum. You should add the album's name to the tags : Dark Passion Play

[Jerry & Cdh's Oni]

General

[General]
Duh, everything seems fine ~

Timing

For the Oni, why you don't add a little SV changes ?
You put your SV to 1.60.
00:03:727 - You put x0.75
00:16:294 - x0.90
Then your x1.00 will come back after
03:29:673 - x0.85
03:30:078 - x0.90
03:30:483 - x0.95
03:30:889 - x1.00
[Timing]

Patterns and hitsounds

[Patterns and hitsounds]
01:09:402 (39) - k ? A dkkdkkd pattern feels nice here
01:17:916 (75) - put a d, you need a loud drum sound to keep the rhythm here.
01:18:524 (77) - This pattern is weird. I feel that the note breaks the rhythm. I suggest you to do something like this

01:36:159 - Intervert 01:36:970 (38) - and 01:36:159 (35,36,37) - to make a ddk k. It's because your ddk now follows the music
01:38:186 (43,44,45,46,47,48,49) - kdk d k d ? Same as ^, if follows better the music here
Before

After

01:39:402 (49) - d ?
02:15:078 (8) - Make your slider end here : 02:15:889 -
03:13:862 (48) - Your slider's end isn't even snapped. Make it end here pls 03:14:470 -

[Jerry & Cdh's Muzu]

General

[General]
Duh, everything seems fine ~

Timing

Useless timing points at 03:17:105 - , 03:17:511 -

Patterns and hitsounds

00:09:808 (20) - Why don't you k here ? Pitch is higher
00:10:213 (21,22,23) - You ddk'ed before, why do you do a kkd here ? It doesn't make pretty with the pitch going up, but a ddk is cool
00:50:754 (6,7,8,9) - Heehee, i KNOW you know there's a problem here. The snare drum is mapped with a d. It's not pretty :/ Plus, the d d here 00:51:565 (8,9) - is weird. Here's what I propose you :
00:50:348 (5) - d
00:50:754 (6) - k
00:51:159 (7) - d
00:51:565 (8) - k
00:51:970 (9) - d
It swings more now, no ?

02:15:078 (1) - I think this spinner ends a little too late, it hides the followings patterns. Plus, the guy's scream ends here : 02:15:889 -

Very cool Muzu ! (Y)

Thanks for make me discover the song, I hope this mod helped you.

Last edited by Totoro le Pacha 2014-08-27T15:01:15+00:00, edited 2 times in total.

Asagi Mutsuki

osu!trivium Champion

1,469 posts

Joined February 2013

Asagi Mutsuki 2014-08-27T14:31:48+00:00

Totoro le Pacha wrote:
OHAYOOO. Neonat's asked me a mod, and because he already saved me with his queue, I mod it now

Général
[General]

Hum. You should add the album's name to the tags : Dark Passion Play
[Jerry & Cdh's Oni]
General
[General]
Duh, everything seems fine ~
Timing
For the Oni, why you don't add a little SV changes ?
You put your SV to 1.60. Sorry but I really don't like sv1.6 due to the way it looks ingame D:
00:03:727 - You put x0.75 After a brief discussion with Jerry we decided not to add any sv changes for the sake of not having it *runs*
00:16:294 - x0.90
Then your x1.00 will come back after
03:29:673 - x0.85
03:30:078 - x0.90
03:30:483 - x0.95
03:30:889 - x1.00
[Timing]
Patterns and hitsounds
[Patterns and hitsounds]
I'm sincerely hoping the mods here are for Oni lol
01:09:402 (39) - k ? A dkkdkkd pattern feels nice here it sounds too kat inclined while the music isn't really that high in pitch and mood ;w;
01:17:916 (75) - put a d, you need a loud drum sound to keep the rhythm here. but 01:14:673 and other similar places are ALL k ;w;
01:18:524 (77) - This pattern is weird. I feel that the note breaks the rhythm. I suggest you to do something like this changed the ddd to ddk

01:36:159 - Intervert 01:36:970 (38) - and 01:36:159 (35,36,37) - to make a ddk k. It's because your ddk now follows the music see the response at nwolf's mod, also I believe jerry is beat-mapping (lol) here
01:38:186 (43,44,45,46,47,48,49) - kdk d k d ? Same as ^, if follows better the music here [/color]

01:39:402 (49) - d ? k already works well as it is, so sorry but i have to reject this ;w;
02:15:078 (8) - Make your slider end here : 02:15:889 - Wait isn't it already ending there....?
03:13:862 (48) - Your slider's end isn't even snapped. Make it end here pls 03:14:470 - i sincerely believe that the unsnapped sliders are because of the sv changes you used since they're fine at my end lol

[Jerry & Cdh's Muzu]
General
[General]
Duh, everything seems fine ~
Timing
Useless timing points at 03:17:105 - , 03:17:511 - They're there for the volumes
Patterns and hitsounds
00:09:808 (20) - Why don't you k here ? Pitch is higher fixed
00:10:213 (21,22,23) - You ddk'ed before, why do you do a kkd here ? It doesn't make pretty with the pitch going up, but a ddk is cool changed it already
00:50:754 (6,7,8,9) - Heehee, i KNOW you know there's a problem here. The snare drum is mapped with a d. It's not pretty :/ Plus, the d d here 00:51:565 (8,9) - is weird. Here's what I propose you :
00:50:348 (5) - d
00:50:754 (6) - k
00:51:159 (7) - d
00:51:565 (8) - k
00:51:970 (9) - d
It swings more now, no ? I ended up doing the exact opposite of what you proposed since I'm mainly following the vocal pitch lol

02:15:078 (1) - I think this spinner ends a little too late, it hides the followings patterns. Plus, the guy's scream ends here : 02:15:889 - Just spin faster ;w;

Very cool Muzu ! (Y)

Thanks for make me discover the song, I hope this mod helped you.

[/quote]

Thanks for the mods!

Dainesl

898 posts

Joined May 2012

Dainesl 2014-08-27T19:04:34+00:00

Hiya finally modding this (sorry baka cdh ;w;)

Black = Suggestion/small recommendation
Orange = Strong recommendation, normally more in-depth but sometimes short and simple
Red = Unrankable issues

Jerry + Cdh's Muzu

Jerry (1)

00:06:970 (11,12,13) - Maybe make this dkk instead because you did ddk on 00:03:727 (1,2,3) - and it makes for a little bit of variety between patterns I guess.
00:28:456 (74,75,76) - Not really much to say here but 2-colour triplets are normally kinda weird in a Muzu; this fits though so idk how to make this pattern any better, really; maybe if you take 75 and move it over to 00:29:065 - so that you can map more of the music or maybe you just want to keep it simple; go for kkk k (kinda weird-sounding but it's the best mono-colour alternative I could give ;;)

cdh (1)

00:30:889 - to 00:43:862 - why do you follow the snare drum really inconsistently in this section? one minute you're following it then you're following it at seemingly random times; for example, perhaps you could try something like inverting 00:33:524 (10,11) - for snare drum emphasis (but if you do that then you should probably make 9 a don too) while also keeping a decent pitch relevancy
00:48:727 (11,12) - Again, invert these for snare drum emphasis; also the vocal is rather quiet here imo so maybe having a don where the vocal is would help give the snare drum that bit of emphasis
00:53:997 (16) - Make this into a kat; again it's about the pitch and snare drum emphasis here; nothing I can say for these three suggestions lel

Jerry (2)

01:09:200 (41) - Maybe take this and move it over to 01:08:997 - so that you can follow more of the main song rather than some really background instruments that people might not be able to hear; seems less awkward if you do that imo since it's not a 4-4 but rather a 5-3, which is simpler
01:09:808 (44) - Perhaps make this into a kat for some nice vocal emphasis here? It sounds like it should have a bit of emphasis compared to the rest of the notes imo
01:15:686 (64) - If you did 01:09:200 then do the same as this; take it back half a beat (to 01:15:483 - ) and this time make it a kat for more vocal emphasis; it's about the same pitch as the next note so maybe having this as a kat will help with the feeling of higher and more prolonged vocals

cdh (2)

Looks good to me!

Jerry (3)

02:02:713 - Maybe add a don here to give slightly more emphasis to the kat which represents the high vocal? just a nitpick is all

cdh (3)

02:34:740 (66) - Perhaps delete this note so that you can break up the 2nd 7-plet, making the map more Muzu like rather than easy Oni? just a thought/nitpick

Jerry (4)

02:45:078 (14,15,16) - ahhhh why is there 2x triplets in a row in a Muzu no bad boy remove 15 so that it becomes more Muzu like rather than Oni level because this treaded on that line imo. Also I say this triplet specifically because I think triplets are easier when they're earlier on in the pattern so yeah
02:48:321 (29) - This might play slightly awkwardly but maybe have this be a big kat to emphasise the harsh cymbal here? it's really nice and juicy and gives a comparison of big kats + dons; there's barely any big kats in this map too so yeah maybe this would help balance things out. edit the pattern if you feel that a big kat wouldn't work too well here due to difficulty

cdh (4)

Looks fine to me again!

Jerry (5)

03:43:862 (50) - Maybe add a finisher here simply because this is a more significant part of the song; and a finisher was added on the beginning of the second half on the other Kiais so why not here?
03:45:484 (55,56,57,58,59,60,61,62,63,64) - imo this pattern is a bit too difficult for a Muzukashii; again crossing into the easy Oni border. I'd say to break the pattern at 63 (i.e. remove 63) so that it becomes more Muzu-like rather than easy Oni-like; like I said before

cdh (5)

03:59:267 (8,9,10,11,12,13) - I would criticise these also but they're really separate by comparison to the previous time they were used so this is just me saying "hey maybe remove these but they sound fine so keep them if you want and it's still kinda easy so idc"

Jerry & Cdh's Oni

cdh (1)

00:28:862 (19) - Nitpick here but maybe make this a kat to follow the guitar in the background like you did with the next note? maybe you were following the main instrument and the guitar being followed just happened to be a coincidence but imo the pattern sounds a bit better as kkd.

Jerry (1)

Looks good to me!

cdh (2)

01:02:713 - Another nitpick but perhaps add a note here to follow the more in-between beat like you did with 01:05:956 (24) - ? I say it wouldn't really increase the difficulty at all, just adding a bit onto the map imo~
01:19:132 (81,82,83) - This really doesn't sound that nice to me as a triplet; I'd probably say get rid of 82; it just seems to follow everything a bit better especially the vocal because it's on the 1/2 at this point, not really the 1/4 ticks. Also if you want to be more consistent with 01:17:511 (73,74,75) - then make 83 a kat (assuming you got rid of 82; if you didn't then apply neither)

Jerry (2)

01:34:740 (28,29,30,31,32) - I suggest to change this pattern to k d ddk for a few reasons; k d sounds nicer imo; and not only does ddk sound more relevant with the pitch but the k at the end of "ddk" and the next k are emphasised a bit more because the downbeat note is a don (and the kats are slightly more emphasised in terms of the instrument playing + pitch), and the last reason is because the 2 kats I mention are the same pitch anyways so why not be consistent in that regard

cdh (3)

01:51:159 (15,16) - Maybe invert these to give the kats more of a snare drum-exclusive feeling (15 being a kat just seems a bit weird to me by comparison with the other patterns) OR you could have the exact same pattern as before for consistency (d d k k d) which I think would be the better option seeing as how d k k k d sounds really odd but it's up to you I guess!
01:57:848 (40,41,42,43,44,45,46,47) - imo having d k d k d k d k is kinda boring; how about having a pattern like d k d k d d d k (which has been done to death, yes, but this gives variety) or maybe if you want something slightly less common and more fitting with the prolonged vocal try d k d k k k d k

Jerry (3)

Looks good to me again!

cdh (4)

02:59:267 (6,7,8) - Another nitpick but maybe change this pattern to dkk just to fit the quickly rising pitch of the instrument a bit more? can't really explain how it helps seeing how it's a slightly less flowing pattern but it's good with pitch relevancy I guess...

Jerry (4)

Again looks fine to me ;w;

cdh (5)

03:53:592 (1,2,3,4,5) - Maybe change this pattern to kdd d so that the next k is a sort of disjointed mirror pattern and also sounds quite cool in terms of vocals with this type of structure; perhaps you wanna have it maybe kkd for a more flowing pattern; that's fine too, same deal applies

Jerry (5)

...again looks fine dammit I can't find possible oversights/mistakes :<

good luck for rank~

TrigonometrY

281 posts

Joined November 2011

TrigonometrY 2014-08-27T20:31:09+00:00

From my queue

[General]
What's about to make one of combo colours more red? It's too pinky in comparison with BG's colour. Example: http://puu.sh/baiwe/b8526a5be1.jpg

[Normal]
00:26:024 (1,2,3) - I'd prefer to change rhythm like that: http://puu.sh/bah2V/c68be50553.jpg Because music corresponding those two sliders is the same and starts from drum sound (see downbeats)
00:30:889 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3) - they are symmetrical, so why you didn't put them in center of playfield? Just looks strange
00:52:781 (3) - curve it like sliders placed near. It will be a little neater: http://puu.sh/bajvW/4f2aaee1a5.jpg
00:50:348 (1) - for better flow with next objects I suggest to flip it vertically
01:03:727 (1,2,3) - they're placed so randomly! Or you placed them in such way on purpose? I propose next variant: http://puu.sh/bajOP/a340dd7acc.jpg
01:53:592 (1,2,3) - put them on 44;208
02:02:916 (4) - 316;144 for better blanket

[Hard]
00:33:321 (5,6) - she sings "without eyes" like one entire word, suggest to replace them with reversed slider. Like here btw 01:49:538 (5) -
00:58:254 (6,7) - why is there jump between them unlike previous circles? I don't get your idea unlike this 02:13:051 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) -
01:26:024 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,1,2,3,4) - I propose to make small jumps because of vocal. 02:42:240 - 03:56:835 - same
01:32:511 (7) - put it on 180;64. It will look more aesthetic
02:04:943 (3,4,5,6) - Sorry, but... As for me, it looks just bad. 02:05:754 (5) - this slider placed randomly concerning 02:04:943 (3) - and it covers 02:06:159 (6) - My suggestion: http://puu.sh/bapqn/8dd3932554.jpg
02:57:240 (5) - make it curved maybe? http://puu.sh/baqvZ/9d8aa98e25.jpg
03:10:213 - please don't skip this beat.

[Shiro's Insane]
This diff is hard for me not so much because of jumps but because of random spacing. Perhaps someone like this style unlike me.
00:40:213 (8,9,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - good example (yes, I saw someone has mentioned it already). Music isn't changing, vocal isn't changing, it's not intense/crazy/screamy part, but DS is changing.
01:11:429 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - in this case random jumps are absolutely reasonable.
00:50:348 (1,2) - rip flow. I'd prefer to curve it to another side http://puu.sh/batz0/2b54045275.jpg
Anyway, your diff reminds me some old good maps.

neonat

Beatmap Nominator

3,528 posts

Joined April 2012

Topic Starter

neonat 2014-08-29T14:55:21+00:00

TrigonometrY wrote:
From my queue

[General]
What's about to make one of combo colours more red? It's too pinky in comparison with BG's colour. Example: http://puu.sh/baiwe/b8526a5be1.jpg
Okay, I made it more red

[Normal]
00:26:024 (1,2,3) - I'd prefer to change rhythm like that: http://puu.sh/bah2V/c68be50553.jpg Because music corresponding those two sliders is the same and starts from drum sound (see downbeats) felt otherwise though, because the slider starts right after the peak of the pitch of the music which I think would be better
00:30:889 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3) - they are symmetrical, so why you didn't put them in center of playfield? Just looks strange it appears quite quickly after the previous section, putting it nearer to the centre would make it more clattered looking
00:52:781 (3) - curve it like sliders placed near. It will be a little neater: http://puu.sh/bajvW/4f2aaee1a5.jpg changed
00:50:348 (1) - for better flow with next objects I suggest to flip it vertically no change
01:03:727 (1,2,3) - they're placed so randomly! Or you placed them in such way on purpose? I propose next variant: http://puu.sh/bajOP/a340dd7acc.jpg ok I moved it
01:53:592 (1,2,3) - put them on 44;208 no change
02:02:916 (4) - 316;144 for better blanket

[Hard]
00:33:321 (5,6) - she sings "without eyes" like one entire word, suggest to replace them with reversed slider. Like here btw 01:49:538 (5) - I think it's still fine
00:58:254 (6,7) - why is there jump between them unlike previous circles? I don't get your idea unlike this 02:13:051 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - I just placed it that way, it's similar to the ending
01:26:024 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,1,2,3,4) - I propose to make small jumps because of vocal. 02:42:240 - 03:56:835 - same made some slight jumps between phrases
01:32:511 (7) - put it on 180;64. It will look more aesthetic
02:04:943 (3,4,5,6) - Sorry, but... As for me, it looks just bad. 02:05:754 (5) - this slider placed randomly concerning 02:04:943 (3) - and it covers 02:06:159 (6) - My suggestion: http://puu.sh/bapqn/8dd3932554.jpg ok
02:57:240 (5) - make it curved maybe? http://puu.sh/baqvZ/9d8aa98e25.jpg k
03:10:213 - please don't skip this beat. k

Thanks for the mod~

wasonz

714 posts

Joined July 2013

wasonz 2014-08-29T15:20:45+00:00

Hi From my queue :3

Muzukashii

[Jerry ~]
00:05:956 (8,9) - move to 00:06:159 (8,9) - : make this 00:04:943 (4,5,6,7,8,9,10) - to beautiful pattern \:D/
00:07:173 (12,13) - Ctrl+G : it's similar sound with 00:03:727 (1,2,3) -

[Cdh ~]
00:56:024 (3) - d : too many blue here
04:07:781 (18,19) - remove finish : emphasize finish on 04:08:389 (20,21) -

Oni....ichan

[Jerry ~]
03:13:051 (44,46) - change to k : i think finish is not fit well

[Cdh ~]
03:36:565 (32) - k : follow your mapping style in this diff (?)

I don't like this genre much + the song
Don't wonder why i mod this short

Good Luck ~

Shiro

Global Moderator

4,984 posts

Joined May 2009

Shiro 2014-08-31T01:24:03+00:00

TrigonometrY wrote:
[Shiro's Insane]
This diff is hard for me not so much because of jumps but because of random spacing. Perhaps someone like this style unlike me. Believe me, the spacing is nowhere near random, especially compared to what's being done nowadays. There is a close relation between the song and the spacing, as well as structure inside of the map.
00:40:213 (8,9,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - good example (yes, I saw someone has mentioned it already). Music isn't changing, vocal isn't changing, it's not intense/crazy/screamy part, but DS is changing. As explained earlier, this is part of the structure. I separated this part into two smaller parts with different spacings to lead into 00:42:240 (9,10,11,12,13,14,15) - and a whole new part in the map.
01:11:429 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - in this case random jumps are absolutely reasonable. Nowhere as random as in 99% of maps ranked nowadays. The highlight is on 01:11:835 (3) - with the biggest jump, then 01:12:240 (5) - to separate the two instances of jumps
00:50:348 (1,2) - rip flow. I'd prefer to curve it to another side http://puu.sh/batz0/2b54045275.jpg Huh I'm not sure how this is any better. My current slider follows the direction of the jumps...
Anyway, your diff reminds me some old good maps. I have a very old mapping style, or so I'm told. My maps don't quite fit in the current meta. =(

Thanks for looking at the diff. This is very rare, but I'm not changing anything (reasons explained above). Sorry T.T
My spacing is... complex. I have yet to see someone who really understands how I do it. But... it's definitely not random.

Asagi Mutsuki

osu!trivium Champion

1,469 posts

Joined February 2013

Asagi Mutsuki 2014-09-01T15:55:04+00:00

Dainesl wrote:
Hiya finally modding this (sorry baka cdh ;w;)

Black = Suggestion/small recommendation
Orange = Strong recommendation, normally more in-depth but sometimes short and simple
Red = Unrankable issues

Jerry + Cdh's Muzu

Jerry (1)
00:06:970 (11,12,13) - Maybe make this dkk instead because you did ddk on 00:03:727 (1,2,3) - and it makes for a little bit of variety between patterns I guess. I guess what Jerry is trying to map is ddk dkd before and dkd ddk after ...?(mirror patterns ftw)
00:28:456 (74,75,76) - Not really much to say here but 2-colour triplets are normally kinda weird in a Muzu; this fits though so idk how to make this pattern any better, really; maybe if you take 75 and move it over to 00:29:065 - so that you can map more of the music or maybe you just want to keep it simple; go for kkk k (kinda weird-sounding but it's the best mono-colour alternative I could give ;;) deleted 00:28:558
cdh (1)
00:30:889 - to 00:43:862 - why do you follow the snare drum really inconsistently in this section? one minute you're following it then you're following it at seemingly random times; for example, perhaps you could try something like inverting 00:33:524 (10,11) - for snare drum emphasis (but if you do that then you should probably make 9 a don too) while also keeping a decent pitch relevancy done
00:48:727 (11,12) - Again, invert these for snare drum emphasis; also the vocal is rather quiet here imo so maybe having a don where the vocal is would help give the snare drum that bit of emphasis I want to keep the k d k d rhythm though D:
00:53:997 (16) - Make this into a kat; again it's about the pitch and snare drum emphasis here; nothing I can say for these three suggestions lel k
Jerry (2)
01:09:200 (41) - Maybe take this and move it over to 01:08:997 - so that you can follow more of the main song rather than some really background instruments that people might not be able to hear; seems less awkward if you do that imo since it's not a 4-4 but rather a 5-3, which is simpler done
01:09:808 (44) - Perhaps make this into a kat for some nice vocal emphasis here? It sounds like it should have a bit of emphasis compared to the rest of the notes imo k
01:15:686 (64) - If you did 01:09:200 then do the same as this; take it back half a beat (to 01:15:483 - ) and this time make it a kat for more vocal emphasis; it's about the same pitch as the next note so maybe having this as a kat will help with the feeling of higher and more prolonged vocals yeah
cdh (2)
Looks good to me! yay
Jerry (3)
02:02:713 - Maybe add a don here to give slightly more emphasis to the kat which represents the high vocal? just a nitpick is all b...but there are only triplets here and i don't want to break that ;w;
cdh (3)
02:34:740 (66) - Perhaps delete this note so that you can break up the 2nd 7-plet, making the map more Muzu like rather than easy Oni? just a thought/nitpick I don't think 7-plets are too hard for Muzu players though ;w;
Jerry (4)
02:45:078 (14,15,16) - ahhhh why is there 2x triplets in a row in a Muzu no bad boy remove 15 so that it becomes more Muzu like rather than Oni level because this treaded on that line imo. Also I say this triplet specifically because I think triplets are easier when they're earlier on in the pattern so yeah done
02:48:321 (29) - This might play slightly awkwardly but maybe have this be a big kat to emphasise the harsh cymbal here? it's really nice and juicy and gives a comparison of big kats + dons; there's barely any big kats in this map too so yeah maybe this would help balance things out. edit the pattern if you feel that a big kat wouldn't work too well here due to difficulty changed the kat to a big one and deleted the next don
cdh (4)
Looks fine to me again! yay again!
Jerry (5)
03:43:862 (50) - Maybe add a finisher here simply because this is a more significant part of the song; and a finisher was added on the beginning of the second half on the other Kiais so why not here? Because the other kiais are mapped by me...?
03:45:484 (55,56,57,58,59,60,61,62,63,64) - imo this pattern is a bit too difficult for a Muzukashii; again crossing into the easy Oni border. I'd say to break the pattern at 63 (i.e. remove 63) so that it becomes more Muzu-like rather than easy Oni-like; like I said before deleted (61) instead
cdh (5)
03:59:267 (8,9,10,11,12,13) - I would criticise these also but they're really separate by comparison to the previous time they were used so this is just me saying "hey maybe remove these but they sound fine so keep them if you want and it's still kinda easy so idc" lol
Jerry & Cdh's Oni

cdh (1)
00:28:862 (19) - Nitpick here but maybe make this a kat to follow the guitar in the background like you did with the next note? maybe you were following the main instrument and the guitar being followed just happened to be a coincidence but imo the pattern sounds a bit better as kkd. Well I normally don't say things like this but there would be too much kats here where it doesn't fit D:
Jerry (1)
Looks good to me!
cdh (2)
01:02:713 - Another nitpick but perhaps add a note here to follow the more in-between beat like you did with 01:05:956 (24) - ? I say it wouldn't really increase the difficulty at all, just adding a bit onto the map imo~ k
01:19:132 (81,82,83) - This really doesn't sound that nice to me as a triplet; I'd probably say get rid of 82; it just seems to follow everything a bit better especially the vocal because it's on the 1/2 at this point, not really the 1/4 ticks. Also if you want to be more consistent with 01:17:511 (73,74,75) - then make 83 a kat (assuming you got rid of 82; if you didn't then apply neither) applied both points ;w;
Jerry (2)
01:34:740 (28,29,30,31,32) - I suggest to change this pattern to k d ddk for a few reasons; k d sounds nicer imo; and not only does ddk sound more relevant with the pitch but the k at the end of "ddk" and the next k are emphasised a bit more because the downbeat note is a don (and the kats are slightly more emphasised in terms of the instrument playing + pitch), and the last reason is because the 2 kats I mention are the same pitch anyways so why not be consistent in that regard Changed!
cdh (3)
01:51:159 (15,16) - Maybe invert these to give the kats more of a snare drum-exclusive feeling (15 being a kat just seems a bit weird to me by comparison with the other patterns) OR you could have the exact same pattern as before for consistency (d d k k d) which I think would be the better option seeing as how d k k k d sounds really odd but it's up to you I guess! ddkkd it is then :3
01:57:848 (40,41,42,43,44,45,46,47) - imo having d k d k d k d k is kinda boring; how about having a pattern like d k d k d d d k (which has been done to death, yes, but this gives variety) or maybe if you want something slightly less common and more fitting with the prolonged vocal try d k d k k k d k how did this end up as dkdkdkdk in the first place D: changed!
Jerry (3)
Looks good to me again!
cdh (4)
02:59:267 (6,7,8) - Another nitpick but maybe change this pattern to dkk just to fit the quickly rising pitch of the instrument a bit more? can't really explain how it helps seeing how it's a slightly less flowing pattern but it's good with pitch relevancy I guess... it's a slightly less flowing pattern D: *me runs*
Jerry (4)
Again looks fine to me ;w; jerry 2pro4me
cdh (5)
03:53:592 (1,2,3,4,5) - Maybe change this pattern to kdd d so that the next k is a sort of disjointed mirror pattern and also sounds quite cool in terms of vocals with this type of structure; perhaps you wanna have it maybe kkd for a more flowing pattern; that's fine too, same deal applies k
Jerry (5)
...again looks fine dammit I can't find possible oversights/mistakes :<
good luck for rank~

I'm only late for a day k

[I]MMoRTal[S] wrote:
Hi From my queue :3
Muzukashii

[Jerry ~]
00:05:956 (8,9) - move to 00:06:159 (8,9) - : make this 00:04:943 (4,5,6,7,8,9,10) - to beautiful pattern \:D/ \D:/
00:07:173 (12,13) - Ctrl+G : it's similar sound with 00:03:727 (1,2,3) - I'll change it if another modder suggests this

[Cdh ~]
00:56:024 (3) - d : too many blue here this is on purpose lol since i wanted to emphasize on the ghost snares (idk what's its name k) because there aren't any vocals here
04:07:781 (18,19) - remove finish : emphasize finish on 04:08:389 (20,21) - But the previous two kd s are already used to emphasize this part D:

Oni....ichan

[Jerry ~]
03:13:051 (44,46) - change to k : i think finish is not fit well its only another way to map this though D: also the big notes can emphasize the strong vocals well enough too!

[Cdh ~]
03:36:565 (32) - k : follow your mapping style in this diff changed \:D/(?)

I don't like this genre much + the song
Don't wonder why i mod this short

Good Luck ~

Thanks for the mod~

PatZar

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[I]MMoRTal[S] wrote:

Oni....ichan~

moe que requested

[JerCdh's Oni Collab]
01:51:159 (15,16,17) - ddk
02:55:619 (22,23) - ctrl+ g?

[JerCdh's Muzukashii Collab]
00:46:294 (3,4,5) - dkd? it's better for me
02:02:713 - kat?
03:23:592 (9) - kat ? because 03:20:348 (4) -
03:40:619 (38) - kat? the sounds is high
03:48:321 (67) - kat? i think it's taking a flow

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