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Nightwish - Bye Bye Beautiful [Osu|Taiko]

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Shiro wrote:

  1. 00:18:321 (3,4,5) - space them out can't because it leads to horrible overlaps
but it's not horrible at all

although there's still a slight gap b/w Normal and Hard, it is
  1. reasonable, as all Hard has is mostly 1/2 notes with rare 1/4 additions
  2. difficult to cover, because
    1. Normal is hard to improve without making it inconsistent
    2. Hard is difficult to ease without making it lose in quality/dynamic (esp. the jumpy parts)
standard set is good enough for me to approve of it. There are a few things I don't agree with, but they are about my personal tastes and can't be used as arguments against the map.
Topic Starter
neonat
Thanks :)

I will keep discussing around to see if there are more ways to make it better
qoot8123
hi :)


[General]
  1. Remember to remove widescreen supporti didn't notice there is SB on taiko diff lol
[ Muzukashii]

  1. 00:03:727 - ~ 00:16:294 - this part almost same as oni, try reduce some notes
  2. 01:31:294 (20) - remove to make a good consistency with 01:28:051 -
  3. 01:59:673 (53) - try to add finish? not a must but it would be more fun to play
  4. 03:17:105 - and 03:17:511 - is useless green line, remove them
  5. 03:17:916 - i suggest you move this green line forward , because if the player press earlier, the volume may become the louder one

[ Oni]

  1. 01:11:429 (46,47,48,49,50) - i think you can try to add some note here
  2. 02:20:956 (26,30) - change to d? make the similar pattern with 02:17:307 (5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13) -
  3. 03:17:105 - ,03:17:511 - and 03:17:916 - same asmuzu
  4. 03:17:916 - ~ 03:30:889 - also try to differ the note's dense with muzu
call me back after applying these :)
Jerry
Helping cdh fix his parts for now since his laptop is broken


qoot8123 wrote:

hi :)


[General]
  1. Remember to remove widescreen support :arrow: Alright
[ Muzukashii]

  1. 00:03:727 - ~ 00:16:294 - this part almost same as oni, try reduce some notes :arrow: Reduced a few notes for this part
  2. 01:31:294 (20) - remove to make a good consistency with 01:28:051 - :arrow: Done~
  3. 01:59:673 (53) - try to add finish? not a must but it would be more fun to play :arrow: I agree, it does make it rather fun and it flows well as well. Added
  4. 03:17:105 - and 03:17:511 - is useless green line, remove them :arrow: Opps, my bad. Removed
  5. 03:17:916 - i suggest you move this green line forward , because if the player press earlier, the volume may become the louder one :arrow: Okay, moved to 03:17:815 -

[ Oni]

  1. 01:11:429 (46,47,48,49,50) - i think you can try to add some note here :arrow: I added a d d k k d pattern here
  2. 02:20:956 (26,30) - change to d? make the similar pattern with 02:17:307 (5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13) - :arrow: Wow, awesome catch. Changed!
  3. 03:17:105 - ,03:17:511 - and 03:17:916 - same asmuzu :arrow: Moved the line forward
  4. 03:17:916 - ~ 03:30:889 - also try to differ the note's dense with muzu :arrow: Increased the density of the notes slightly for this part
call me back after applying these :)
Thanks for the mod! ><
qoot8123
after resnapped all notes on taiko diffs , there is no other problem , so i think i can let it go :)

Bubbled!

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good luck o/
Myxo
2014-10-04 10:17 Desperate-kun: oh look it's bubbled
2014-10-04 10:17 Desperate-kun: you could have told me XD
2014-10-04 10:17 neonat: :X
2014-10-04 10:19 Desperate-kun: so
2014-10-04 10:19 neonat: just wanted to see if you would get interested in it without too much pressing
2014-10-04 10:19 Desperate-kun: let me see if i can help you
2014-10-04 10:19 neonat: and that you would look if you are into the song, so i asked for a testplay
2014-10-04 10:20 neonat: if you could help that would be great :)
2014-10-04 10:22 Desperate-kun: add play to the tags
2014-10-04 10:22 Desperate-kun: because the album is named "dark passion play"
2014-10-04 10:22 Desperate-kun: and not just "dark passion"
2014-10-04 10:23 neonat: any other tags?
2014-10-04 10:23 Desperate-kun: no
2014-10-04 10:24 neonat: ok
2014-10-04 10:25 Desperate-kun: ACTION is editing [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/336015 Nightwish - Bye Bye Beautiful [Normal]]
2014-10-04 10:26 Desperate-kun: 01:14:267 (3,4) - Don't use stacks in your easiest diff
2014-10-04 10:26 Desperate-kun: http://puu.sh/bYC8J/bb16c7e918.jpg
2014-10-04 10:26 Desperate-kun: this would work
2014-10-04 10:27 neonat: done
2014-10-04 10:27 Desperate-kun: 01:25:213 (4,1) - is this jump really necessary? o.o
2014-10-04 10:27 Desperate-kun: it is confusing, especially because of the 3/2 gap that follows
2014-10-04 10:28 neonat: i made it like this then http://puu.sh/bYCcU.jpg
2014-10-04 10:29 Desperate-kun: nice
2014-10-04 10:29 Desperate-kun: 02:38:186 (5,6) - hmm what to do about this one
2014-10-04 10:29 Desperate-kun: there are not many stacks in this map so you can fix them
2014-10-04 10:29 Desperate-kun: i got an idea for this one
2014-10-04 10:30 Desperate-kun: move 02:38:186 (5) - to 44|159
2014-10-04 10:30 neonat: i can shift 02:37:375 (4) -
2014-10-04 10:30 neonat: since it is kinda in a limbo position
2014-10-04 10:30 Desperate-kun: nahh
2014-10-04 10:30 Desperate-kun: would be weird
2014-10-04 10:30 Desperate-kun: but you can move (5) like i said and then
2014-10-04 10:30 Desperate-kun: move and rotate (4)
2014-10-04 10:30 Desperate-kun: so that it fits again
2014-10-04 10:30 neonat: nor does it stack properly on 02:40:619 (3) - lol
2014-10-04 10:31 Desperate-kun: just rearrange the pattern like you want to xD
2014-10-04 10:31 Desperate-kun: but avoid weird movement
2014-10-04 10:31 neonat: yeh
2014-10-04 10:32 Desperate-kun: just keep it as straight forward as it is at the moment, that's pretty nice
2014-10-04 10:32 Desperate-kun: or just leave the stack
2014-10-04 10:32 Desperate-kun: if you can't find a solution
2014-10-04 10:33 Desperate-kun: i see there are more coming...
2014-10-04 10:33 Desperate-kun: yeah you can leave them ><
2014-10-04 10:33 Desperate-kun: it's a normal after all
2014-10-04 10:33 neonat: http://puu.sh/bYCok.jpg
2014-10-04 10:34 Desperate-kun: that would work
2014-10-04 10:34 neonat: i then shifted 02:40:619 (3,4,1) - together
2014-10-04 10:34 neonat: and repositioned 02:43:456 (2) -
2014-10-04 10:34 neonat: but must i remove 02:44:673 (3,4) - ? lol..
2014-10-04 10:34 neonat: i thought a stack would fit
2014-10-04 10:34 Desperate-kun: but it's easily fixable
2014-10-04 10:34 neonat: used it at 02:51:159 (3,4) - too
2014-10-04 10:34 neonat: which is the same rhythm
2014-10-04 10:34 Desperate-kun: yeah but normal players have huge problems to read stacks
2014-10-04 10:35 Desperate-kun: but you can
2014-10-04 10:35 Desperate-kun: leave those if you wish
2014-10-04 10:35 Desperate-kun: ^^
2014-10-04 10:35 neonat: shift up
2014-10-04 10:35 neonat: a
2014-10-04 10:35 Desperate-kun: 02:57:646 (4,5) - and you can leave this one too
2014-10-04 10:35 neonat: as long as it stays unique to only one rhythm yeh?
2014-10-04 10:35 Desperate-kun: please leave them
2014-10-04 10:35 Desperate-kun: yea
2014-10-04 10:35 Desperate-kun: 03:52:781 (4,5) - fix this one though
2014-10-04 10:39 Desperate-kun: tell me when you are done
2014-10-04 10:39 neonat: yeh working on the new positions there
2014-10-04 10:39 Desperate-kun: okay
2014-10-04 10:40 Desperate-kun: i'll be afk for 3 minutes~
2014-10-04 10:40 Desperate-kun: next one is: 04:02:511 (3,4,5,6,1) - that difficulty spike o.o sliders please
2014-10-04 10:42 Desperate-kun: back
2014-10-04 10:42 neonat: that was a quick 3 mins
2014-10-04 10:42 Desperate-kun: lol
2014-10-04 10:43 neonat: currently working on 03:59:267 (3,4,1) -
2014-10-04 10:43 neonat: because due to the new shape i flpped 03:56:835 (1,2) -
2014-10-04 10:43 Desperate-kun: hmm? OK
2014-10-04 10:43 Desperate-kun: lol caps
2014-10-04 10:48 Desperate-kun: again, tell me when you are done
2014-10-04 10:50 neonat: ok changed
2014-10-04 10:50 neonat: i update the map?
2014-10-04 10:50 Desperate-kun: not yet
2014-10-04 10:50 Desperate-kun: ACTION is editing [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/336014 Nightwish - Bye Bye Beautiful [Hard]]
2014-10-04 10:50 Desperate-kun: 03:08:997 - add drum whistle
2014-10-04 10:51 Desperate-kun: 03:10:213 - and here too
2014-10-04 10:51 Desperate-kun: because it sounds pretty empty atm
2014-10-04 10:51 Desperate-kun: and you used it before
2014-10-04 10:51 Desperate-kun: atleast in the previous measures
2014-10-04 10:52 neonat: k
2014-10-04 10:53 Desperate-kun: update please
2014-10-04 10:54 neonat: done
2014-10-04 10:54 Desperate-kun: redownloading
2014-10-04 10:56 Desperate-kun: the normal has not been fixed
2014-10-04 10:56 Desperate-kun: like
2014-10-04 10:56 Desperate-kun: the jump is still there
2014-10-04 10:56 Desperate-kun: the stacks are still there
2014-10-04 10:57 neonat: what the
2014-10-04 10:57 neonat: hold on
2014-10-04 10:58 neonat: ah yeh i see
2014-10-04 10:58 neonat: the 1st 2 things pointed out somehow got reverted
2014-10-04 10:59 neonat: but the rest are updated
2014-10-04 10:59 neonat: i might have pressed undo too many times when checking spacing orz
2014-10-04 10:59 Desperate-kun: ok i see
2014-10-04 10:59 neonat: updated again
2014-10-04 11:00 Desperate-kun: nice

We added a tag Play because the name of the Album is Dark Passion Play. We also fixed some patterns in Normal and Hard.
Although I don't really like the spacing in the Hard difficulty at some parts, it is obviously a matter of taste. This mapset seems ready to go now.

Qualified ( ノ^ω^)ノ
Hanjamon
Congratz to all ^^
AruOtta
Congratz neonat \:D/
Nwolf
aaaaaah gz
hehe
grats neonat like finally
Mafumafu
Finaaaaaly lol :3
Gratz, neonat~!
Dino99
Congratz!! :D
Dainesl
congrats neonat, Shiro, cdh and jerry :3
pkk
Congratulationssss neo/Shiro/cdh and Jerry!!!!

wohhoo (=^・ω・^)y=
jyu
whoa congratz!!
Avena
Yessssssssssssss
Topic Starter
neonat
Hanjamon, Kenterz, Nwolf, handsome, Regraz, 12BARRY21, Dainesl, pkk, AlpacaCokelat and Priti.

Thanks all :)
Kaguya Hourain
FINALLY! Gratz :D
Rakuen
Grats :)
PatZar
Congrazt moenat!
King karlos
i like the map but the HP gain is to low and with the most sliders you loos "healt"
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