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Optimal CtB setup?

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Shohei Ohtani
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Shohei Ohtani
So I play CtB casually (Used to play it a lot more when I could scorewhore to go up ranks. R.I.P rank #700 </3), and I was curious what confirguration most people use to play.

I currently use the left and right arrow keys, having my hyperdash on CTRL. My pointer and index finger sit on left and right, and my middle finger takes over left when I'm using hyperdash.

Is there any other way to place the keys that may help me play better?

I play mostly hard diffs, so I'm not in desperate need of hyperdash or anything owo.
eldnl
Former osu!catch Champion: 2013
2,930 posts
Joined March 2010
eldnl
In my opinion, there is no a configuration that may help you, you should make your own and keep practicing with it.
Play insane maps, because focusing only on hard difficulties will not get you anywhere!
VelperK
1,172 posts
Joined May 2010
VelperK
Go default.
Lally
3,177 posts
Joined December 2011
Lally

VelperK wrote:

Go default.
yap o3o so i do too
119410501
665 posts
Joined April 2011
119410501
Use default lshift as dash and left and right arrows with index and ring finger or left arrow and down arrow with index and middle finger.
Get a good readable skin and play constantly all the difficulties, especially Insane and Normal diffs. ;)
Nitojgrem
765 posts
Joined March 2011
Nitojgrem
I suggest you to just play with what's the most comfortable for you to play with... lol.
I think most CtB-player play with default or anything similiar to default. As already said, you should focus more on insanes (and from my own experience, go harder than what you can actually play. For me it was less frustrating to fail sometimes in CtB than in standard.... well, I had the aim to pass those diffs somewhen and nowadays I do with nothing, lol)
Deceitful
390 posts
Joined February 2012
Deceitful
default
Gilochan
369 posts
Joined December 2010
Gilochan

Lally wrote:

VelperK wrote:

Go default.

PlantVSZombie wrote:

default
yap o3o so i do too
Totally.. Btw try dash using left mouse click.. So fun
YERTI
149 posts
Joined March 2012
YERTI

CDFA wrote:

Is there any other way to place the keys that may help me play better?
well then a mouse dash is a must
Killua99
52 posts
Joined June 2013
Killua99
I use A for left and D for right with space for dash
Sey
1,406 posts
Joined October 2010
Sey
For many people ugly but I use arrow buttons and dash with mouse.
Anyway, that's something you need to find out for yourself and what you feel most comfortable with.
Drafura
osu! Alumni
2,621 posts
Joined April 2010
Drafura
Best config evar.
Rantanzyon
35 posts
Joined March 2011
Rantanzyon
I just find yourself playing CTB with your new toy (I really want to try this !) :

SPOILER
Drafura
osu! Alumni
2,621 posts
Joined April 2010
Drafura
Sounds awesome :D
Azeidith
5 posts
Joined June 2013
Azeidith
I use left arrow key for going left and down arrow key for going right and left shift to dash.
Kurokami
osu! Alumni
4,024 posts
Joined February 2010
Kurokami
I prefer default but since I'm currently using laptop and the arrows ar soooo tiny I changed it. You just need to develop what is the best for yourself. There is no such a thing as optimal nor best setup.
1794766
93 posts
Joined July 2012
1794766
Haha, bumping dead thread, created by a guy who now is really pro.

Optimal CTB cetup? Probably the setup you play better with.
Kurokami
osu! Alumni
4,024 posts
Joined February 2010
Kurokami
Pro? I don't really think he is. Just an experienced player but not pro. Also bumping not always bad. Well, this thread is a bit useless but w/e.
Gangsterkill
28 posts
Joined May 2013
Gangsterkill
using the arrow keys with my index and ring finger, and dash is occupied by my left thumb :D
ConanCloud
40 posts
Joined April 2012
ConanCloud
I prefer A+S+Shift with 1 hand :D
But search your own config, thats better :)
1794766
93 posts
Joined July 2012
1794766

Kurokami wrote:

Pro? I don't really think he is. Just an experienced player but not pro.
I mixed this guy and CLSW. :lol:
Azeidith
5 posts
Joined June 2013
Azeidith

Kiwikun wrote:

I mixed this guy and CLSW. :lol:
lol :lol:
OsuMe65
1,519 posts
Joined May 2011
OsuMe65
CtB setup?

>facing my sqare monitor
>osu! at 640x480
>set aside mouse
>move KB in front of the monitor
>fingers on keys (left and right keys, and right shift for dash)
>glass of chocolate below

profit
Sore
2 posts
Joined November 2012
Sore
Go default :D
Manuxz
642 posts
Joined July 2012
Manuxz
Go default. :v
VelperK
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Joined May 2010
VelperK
default master race
StickyPicky
509 posts
Joined October 2012
StickyPicky
Default.
Aqo
2,710 posts
Joined April 2010
Aqo
I've been wondering for a while, why do no CtB players use separate hand keys for left/right?
It has already been proven that it's much easier to click faster with two hands than one. On very fast maps you can get bottlenecked by the speed of your fingers when needing to constantly hit left/right a lot, and putting the directions on keys for separate hands will increase your upper limit for speed plays... isn't that so?

For example a setup like W and O for left/right (and then maybe Q or space or P for dash), use different hands for left/right -> gain more speed.

Anybody tried something like this?
Drafura
osu! Alumni
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Joined April 2010
Drafura

Aqo wrote:

I've been wondering for a while, why do no CtB players use separate hand keys for left/right?
It has already been proven that it's much easier to click faster with two hands than one. On very fast maps you can get bottlenecked by the speed of your fingers when needing to constantly hit left/right a lot, and putting the directions on keys for separate hands will increase your upper limit for speed plays... isn't that so?

For example a setup like W and O for left/right (and then maybe Q or space or P for dash), use different hands for left/right -> gain more speed.

Anybody tried something like this?
I've tried it, but I have a way better timing with one hand. In CtB even if you have enough speed, missing one fruit in those kind of patterns will make you fail the entire stream. So I think most players choose timing over speed for their settings. (Also for streams in the other mods you hit the notes, in CtB you maintain the button pressed until next note, I think this is a big difference in term of gameplay when it comes to choose one or two hand).
Aqo
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Aqo

Drafura wrote:

Also for streams in the other mods you hit the notes, in CtB you maintain the button pressed until next note, I think this is a big difference in term of gameplay when it comes to choose one or two hand
I was thinking about this, but doesn't it really depend on catcher speed vs fruit horizontal distance ratios (and obviously presence of HT/DT since those affect catcher speed). Depending on the ratio, you have to intentionally pause and re-tap during sequences to catch them correctly, which is why I assume on faster maps speed plays an important role.

I agree that two hand coordination/timing is harder for somebody coming out of no particular background, but aren't there some CtB players who also play taiko or mania? For those I think a two hand setup might be more optimal. gotta try this
Drafura
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Drafura

Aqo wrote:

I was thinking about this, but doesn't it really depend on catcher speed vs fruit horizontal distance ratios (and obviously presence of HT/DT since those affect catcher speed). Depending on the ratio, you have to intentionally pause and re-tap during sequences to catch them correctly, which is why I assume on faster maps speed plays an important role.
At those speed (streams) if you have to pause and re-tap then you can most likely catch all the fruits without moving (don't forget the ryuuta size). Maybe using uncommon settings in the map (really small CS) can cause this kind of gameplay on streams, but I actually never encountered a stream (with a decent enough bpm) where you have to do that. (tldr; most spacing in streams are too close to move or too far to stop between each fruits)

Edit: Maybe I've encountered them but I don't remember, but there's again another solution here... You just do it without dashing.

Aqo wrote:

I agree that two hand coordination/timing is harder for somebody coming out of no particular background, but aren't there some CtB players who also play taiko or mania? For those I think a two hand setup might be more optimal. gotta try this
You could ask HineX wich is a really good player at both CtB and Std.
Aqo
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Joined April 2010
Aqo
I'll just try it myself heh
Gilochan
369 posts
Joined December 2010
Gilochan

Aqo wrote:

I've been wondering for a while, why do no CtB players use separate hand keys for left/right?
It has already been proven that it's much easier to click faster with two hands than one. On very fast maps you can get bottlenecked by the speed of your fingers when needing to constantly hit left/right a lot, and putting the directions on keys for separate hands will increase your upper limit for speed plays... isn't that so?

For example a setup like W and O for left/right (and then maybe Q or space or P for dash), use different hands for left/right -> gain more speed.

Anybody tried something like this?
actually my friend use quite similar setting. https://osu.ppy.sh/u/Rick--

his setting:
z = left
? = right
dash = right shift

He can play approve map quite nicely~ try search for your own ctb setting and keep practicing~ 8-)
Antilx
55 posts
Joined October 2013
Antilx
Sounds good like you have it now.
Ciyus Miapah
3,028 posts
Joined June 2013
Ciyus Miapah
note: R= Right, L= Left, D=Dash
nice setting

for right handed
L -> Left button
R -> Right button
D -> S

for Left Handed

L -> A
R-> D
D -> Numpad 0
Kitokofox
osu! Alumni
455 posts
Joined August 2012
Kitokofox
Fort, what are you, prepared to play two osu!s on seperate computers and play ctb by yourself? :o
(That is, if you swap S and Numpad 10)
Dylans222
15 posts
Joined October 2009
Dylans222
im pretty used to default and it will pretty much stay so
Yukiteru Amano
409 posts
Joined September 2012
Yukiteru Amano
My Setup is a skin with White fruits and I normally play with 90% dimmed background. My controlls are num 1 + 3 and F1 for dash.
Amitte Sukku
23 posts
Joined December 2013
Amitte Sukku
My setup:
A - to go left
D - to go right
Arrow Down - to dash (I don't know why...)
Also, I'm using kawaiipandah's skin with Kagamine Twins :3
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_sparky_
544 posts
Joined March 2014
_sparky_
Mine are all defaults but I really should change how I dash....
i actually don't dash, I should I should

My skin when I play varies though
I normally change between 3 skins =v=

im using a koishi komeiji skin that i didnt find here.
Cheto
6 posts
Joined October 2013
Cheto
my config is like this:
A = Left
D = Right
LMouse = Dash
Little bit weird, but i can play with this pretty good :)
2janghoon
6 posts
Joined July 2013
2janghoon
Let's go Default Key Users.
Shift-pinky
Index, ring finger.
The keyboard cover for shift is torn because of the fingernail....didn't even take a month..
index finger is strong, but ring finger gets stiff easily.
PhTom
21 posts
Joined January 2014
PhTom
is it worth to play with the mouse click ?
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