Wakeshima Kanon - killy killy JOKER (TV Size) · forum

ZZHBOY

Joined April 2012

ZZHBOY 2014-05-03T23:24:55+00:00

yf_bmp wrote:
[ZZHBOY]
00:20:449 - 前后联系看这里适合加note好
00:43:783 (1) - 这个圈放这里没感觉啊建议这个做成跳和下面的连打对应不好移开了一点
00:44:783 - 不要忽略鼓点了好
00:57:964 (3,4,5) - 00:58:630 (6,7,8) - 间距不好 kiai这样有失感觉啊不好
01:02:464 (1) - 3/4不妥建议1/2不好
01:26:131 - 音吃了好
01:27:714 (1) - 红线结束不好

GL

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Last edited by ZZHBOY 2014-05-04T07:23:28+00:00, edited 1 time in total.

ZZHBOY

1,649 posts

Joined April 2012

ZZHBOY 2014-05-03T23:25:48+00:00

好

xChippy

1,941 posts

Joined August 2011

xChippy 2014-05-06T09:04:14+00:00

yo

[General]

Isn't this an anime opening sooo where is the video ;w;
Several unused inherited points in the lower diffs please check them

[Insane]

00:14:783 (2) - Try a ctrl+G here plays alot more comfortable for me
00:17:783 (3,4,5,6,1) - Try this for a more natural flow
SPOILER
cuz your current feels a bit weird --> the first triangle (3,4,5) has a nice zigzag but (6,1) is waay to sharp and doesnt flow natural imo.
00:34:783 (3,4) - Ctrl+g those? will have a nice jump to (5) and flows good imo
00:38:949 (3) - Add a finish here there is a cymbal crash
00:39:616 (1) - Same here, listen with earphones or something else you'll hear a cymbal crash
00:44:449 (7,8,9) - Your skipping a really loud beat here 00:44:783 with this slider 00:44:616 (9) - imo doesnt play really fine like this, try this:
Rythm:

And a little pattern suggestion:
SPOILER
00:45:783 (3) - Missing clap at the head and missing finish at the end, You have it at your hard o3o, reminder! lower the volume of the finish so it doesnt overwhelm the kiai's one
00:55:798 (6) - add a NC for consistency
00:56:464 (8) - Meh imo better to keep the vocals here by extending this 1/2 and removing this note 00:56:798 (9) - since its the same as this 00:55:798 (6) - and imo would be weird otherwise :O
01:02:464 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,1,2,1,2,1,2,3,4,5,6) - Has onllyyyy 1/2 imo you could use 1/1 a bit more here by following vocal a bit better for example at these places: 01:05:131 - 01:05:798 - but up to you ofc but consider adding some
01:15:798 (1) - Slider looks weird imo maybe just do a blanket with (4)?
01:17:798 (3) - Break into 2 circles instead is better, for vocal and imo the stream play more comfortable that way
Nice diff~

[ZZH]

00:08:449 (2) - Missing clap here or whistle idk which you prefer here but I'd go with clap
00:23:116 - such an awkward blank here.. next notes are following the instrument and the instrument is starting here, imo you should put a note here and fix up the pattern afterwards
00:26:449 (1,3) - Try making a blanket here o-o? cuz currently it looks really messy.
00:30:949 (2) - Meh this stack doesnt play good imo try moving it to 376|116 for better flow
00:33:616 (2,3,4,5,6) - idk what are you following here o-o Try to make some diversity by putting sliders to follow the violin or to follow the vocal or even better 00:33:116 (7) - break this slider and follow the violin and afterwards put slider for the upcoming vocal.
00:40:949 (1) - Remove NC and add NC here 00:41:116 (2) -
00:41:116 (2,3,4,5,6) - This plays reaaaly awkward cuz of this 00:41:449 (3,4) - imo the active clicking should be at the white tick and not at the end cuz of the rapid claps your following here soo try this rythm:

with stacks like this (Pattern):
SPOILER
and reminder all white tick clap here for this combo
00:42:449 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - okay.. lol and here you have it like that but here it doesnt fit lol this rythm is not compatible with the pattern your using here, imo you should try something else.
00:44:616 (1) - Your skipping a major beat here OAO 00:44:783 - maybe try this rythm?
Rythm:

Pattern:
SPOILER
00:46:116 (1) - Missing clap here or actually a finish I hear a cymbal here consider adding one but if you agree turn the volume a bit down so it doesnt overwhelm the finish on the kiai start.
00:54:131 (4,5,1) - - Fix the distance a bit to big here, ppl may mistake this as 1/2 especially when playing HR.
00:57:964 (3,4,5,6,7,8) - Meh I dont agree with those anti jumps cuz they just dont fit the music but oh well up to you o3o
01:00:048 (2) - weird distance snap here make it consistent with (1) and (3) or stack it with (3) cuz this just looks so weird ><
01:02:464 (1) - Shorten this slider with 1/4 the blue tick just doesnt fit here...
01:14:131 (4,1) - Might be a bit to close o3o move (4) a bit further away? maybe around 160|268
01:14:464 (1) - remove this whistle here from the head
01:23:798 (1) - Remove normal sample set and put a finish here instead cuz its the same as 00:09:116 (5) - and here you have a finish and also finish is better o3o
Pretty decent diff but looks a bit messy here and there but with a few nazi mods it should be good to go!

[Hard]

00:05:151 (4) - Ctrl+G flows alot better (3) curve is going up so its better to have the head up o3o and it wont effect the flow with the next note o3o
00:10:449 (5,6) - Fix this blanket a bit look at the Approach circle o3o
00:18:116 (4,5,6) - Try this?
SPOILER
Flows better imo cuz currently the curve of (5) is jammering the flow
00:42:116 (4,5) - nazi fiix the stack o3o
00:54:464 (1,3) - Blanket could be done neater here
01:19:798 (1,2,3) - Nazi fix the stack o3o
01:20:464 (4,5,6) - ^
Nice aswell tho I dont agree with these sliders with 2 repeats like this 00:48:465 (8) - but its just personal preference.

[Normal]

First of all OD+1 to balance the set
00:22:449 (1,2,3) - Doesnt really look neat and also doesnt flow really good imo try this?
SPOILER
00:41:116 (1) - Why a finish here, no indication in the music for it or something else, imo you should remove it.
00:45:783 (4) - Missing clap here
00:46:116 (5) - Lower the volume a bit, to noisy like this imo
00:47:798 (3,4,5,6) - How about some zigzag for more natural flow:
SPOILER
01:11:798 (4,5,6,7) - errr turn those into two 1/2 slider to follow the vocal better? this plays a bit weird atm imo
01:15:798 (1,2) - Rythm is weird here cuz your skipping the major beats here try this:
SPOILER

[Easy]

00:38:449 (1,2) - Plays awkward imo again your not focusing on the major beats >< try this:
SPOILER
00:41:116 (1) - Same as normal about the finish here
01:15:798 (1) - Meh skipping major beats here making this feel awkward try this:
SPOILER
01:17:798 (4) - Shorten this slider by 1/2 imo plays alot better and 1/2 in easy is meh
01:20:464 - uuh add 1/2 slider here o-o with a clap at the end.
Good easy but dont agree with some 1/2 but w/e o3o

Well hope this was helpful o3o contact me if you some things weren't clear~

ZZHBOY

1,649 posts

Joined April 2012

ZZHBOY 2014-05-06T17:23:42+00:00

xChippy wrote:
yo
[ZZH]
00:08:449 (2) - Missing clap here or whistle idk which you prefer here but I'd go with clapadded
00:23:116 - such an awkward blank here.. next notes are following the instrument and the instrument is starting here, imo you should put a note here and fix up the pattern afterwards i like this
00:26:449 (1,3) - Try making a blanket here o-o? cuz currently it looks really messy.fixed
00:30:949 (2) - Meh this stack doesnt play good imo try moving it to 376|116 for better flowyep
00:33:616 (2,3,4,5,6) - idk what are you following here o-o Try to make some diversity by putting sliders to follow the violin or to follow the vocal or even better 00:33:116 (7) - break this slider and follow the violin and afterwards put slider for the upcoming vocal.
00:40:949 (1) - Remove NC and add NC here 00:41:116 (2) - done
00:41:116 (2,3,4,5,6) - This plays reaaaly awkward cuz of this 00:41:449 (3,4) - imo the active clicking should be at the white tick and not at the end cuz of the rapid claps your following here soo try this rythm:

with stacks like this (Pattern):
SPOILER
and reminder all white tick clap here for this combo
00:42:449 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - okay.. lol and here you have it like that but here it doesnt fit lol this rythm is not compatible with the pattern your using here, imo you should try something else.
00:44:616 (1) - Your skipping a major beat here OAO 00:44:783 - maybe try this rythm?i want to stress vocal here.-.
Rythm:

Pattern:
SPOILER
00:46:116 (1) - Missing clap here or actually a finish I hear a cymbal here consider adding one but if you agree turn the volume a bit down so it doesnt overwhelm the finish on the kiai start.
00:54:131 (4,5,1) - - Fix the distance a bit to big here, ppl may mistake this as 1/2 especially when playing HR.
00:57:964 (3,4,5,6,7,8) - Meh I dont agree with those anti jumps cuz they just dont fit the music but oh well up to you o3o
01:00:048 (2) - weird distance snap here make it consistent with (1) and (3) or stack it with (3) cuz this just looks so weird ><
01:02:464 (1) - Shorten this slider with 1/4 the blue tick just doesnt fit here...done
01:14:131 (4,1) - Might be a bit to close o3o move (4) a bit further away? maybe around 160|268u r right o3o
01:14:464 (1) - remove this whistle here from the headdone
01:23:798 (1) - Remove normal sample set and put a finish here instead cuz its the same as 00:09:116 (5) - and here you have a finish and also finish is better o3o
Pretty decent diff but looks a bit messy here and there but with a few nazi mods it should be good to go!

thank for your mod and your praise

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smallboat

1,687 posts

Joined January 2010

Topic Starter

smallboat 2014-05-07T17:45:25+00:00

Sorry for delay reply , I "m busy before. ~~(mapping another one~~

Regraz

Regraz wrote:
As ZZH requested
Newbie and a little nazimodder, so sorry if there is no help!有幫到一些!

Excellent song and map!

[General]

AI mod says:

In hard diff: 01:02:798 (2) - unsnapped end http://puu.sh/8th7Q.jpg 忘了看到這個，fixed.

[Normal and Hard]
都很好了
只是个人觉得Normal有些难了，我觉得normal和hard只差了半颗多星，感觉spread不是很接得上沒關係就這樣吧，或許有空NM節奏會改一下

[Easy]
00:14:449 (1) - 试试这样http://puu.sh/8udkD.jpg 嗯好，拐的已壓在vocal上。
因为这个是一个长slider，且包含多个vocal，所以只接一个弯滑条不太能体现vocal，所以弄成有拐点的，正好可以把拐点放在vocal的位置上
00:19:783 (1,2) - 包好http://puu.sh/8udsG.jpg 好
00:27:449 (4,1,2) - 建议放成这样：124正三角形http://puu.sh/8udwt.jpg Ok接受
00:59:798 (1,2) - 建议加上音效强调一下vocal 不加音效，我覺得加whistle還是有點突出，但是這裡我加了音量10%給全部diff
01:01:131 (3) - ^ ^
01:10:464 (1,3) - 对称，好看的pattern 似乎因為間距無法重疊上去，但這裡有再重擺一下對稱pattern。
没啦~

PS：做这个mod的时候就想起了我刚开始做图时，小船大大的mod。。虽然那张图现在还没rank。。不过回想起来真的是好感动，可是当时什么都不懂啊TwT 後來下載看了一下有進步很多，你那張我是覺得差不多可以泡了，只是太鼓BAT有點難找，因為都不怎麼活躍或是不接req，我推薦可以找外國太鼓BAT試試，之前第一張和第二張通霄找太鼓BAT要ICON，太累，所以暫時我的圖先沒找太鼓GD，省了一道額外要太鼓ICON的手續。~~(除非太鼓BAT有15個我就找GD)。~~
谢谢！

謝謝 Regraz ~ !

yf_bmp

yf_bmp wrote:
Sry for delaying 沒關係，臥巢回這一篇我才發現忘了給老爺KD，sorry。

Notice:

Red: Be unrankable
Blue: Be important
Black: Suggestions
[General]
soft-hitnormal2音效不太适合,建议是吧这个音效作为Addition而不是Sampleset 因為我是綠化大使不會用這個....現在我是覺得聽的還好，這裡先不變。

[Insane]
00:06:450 (1) - 红线结束会比较合理一些音乐这里的衔接并不是很紧凑好
00:08:283 - 这个音加上为好老爺說的堆
00:23:283 (4,5,6) - 这三个不等距的弧线真是比较蛋疼...建议等距好，把4下移了下面點。
00:25:116 (2) - normalfinish没必要不合曲好
00:30:449 (1) - ^ ^
00:38:449 (1) - 00:38:949 (3) - 00:39:616 (1) - 这三个头finish 還可行，改了
00:43:949 (2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,1) - 就是这里我觉得soft-hitnormal2不是很适合的確是有點不好，那這先保持
00:45:783 (3) - 尾finish 好
01:01:131 (1) - 太长的滑条很影响kiai的节奏啊... 很好的建議，改了
01:18:048 (4,5,6,7,8) - 这个串摆平滑一些好
01:28:548 (6,1) - 这种距离对player很不友好而且这里也不太适用建议与之前距离相等, 后面滑条跳可以增大些
OK,這邊等距了
[Hard]
00:31:116 (2) - 去掉折返合理些恩很多人說這裡，改了
01:27:798 (1) - 红线结束好

低难度看不出什么
Star! 謝謝!
GL

謝謝 yf_bmp ~ !

xChippy wrote:
yo yo!

[General]
Isn't this an anime opening sooo where is the video ;w; Because the update problem,so I remove this first.
Several unused inherited points in the lower diffs please check themOkay,I"ll check this to delete.
[Insane]
00:14:783 (2) - Try a ctrl+G here plays alot more comfortable for me Okay,changed
00:17:783 (3,4,5,6,1) - Try this for a more natural flow
SPOILER
cuz your current feels a bit weird --> the first triangle (3,4,5) has a nice zigzag but (6,1) is waay to sharp and doesnt flow natural imo. Sure,change a bit.
00:34:783 (3,4) - Ctrl+g those? will have a nice jump to (5) and flows good imo Okay,changed.
00:38:949 (3) - Add a finish here there is a cymbal crash Already added before.
00:39:616 (1) - Same here, listen with earphones or something else you'll hear a cymbal crash ^
00:44:449 (7,8,9) - Your skipping a really loud beat here 00:44:783 with this slider 00:44:616 (9) - imo doesnt play really fine like this, try this: Okay,changed
Rythm:

And a little pattern suggestion:
SPOILER
00:45:783 (3) - Missing clap at the head and missing finish at the end, You have it at your hard o3o, reminder! lower the volume of the finish so it doesnt overwhelm the kiai's one Added,reduce 30% volume here.
00:55:798 (6) - add a NC for consistency fixed
00:56:464 (8) - Meh imo better to keep the vocals here by extending this 1/2 and removing this note 00:56:798 (9) - since its the same as this 00:55:798 (6) - and imo would be weird otherwise :O Okay,already extended and added NC at 00:56:964 (1) .
01:02:464 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,1,2,1,2,1,2,3,4,5,6) - Has onllyyyy 1/2 imo you could use 1/1 a bit more here by following vocal a bit better for example at these places: 01:05:131 - 01:05:798 - but up to you ofc but consider adding some
Although your suggestion is good, but I select keep this here.
01:15:798 (1) - Slider looks weird imo maybe just do a blanket with (4)? Okay,fixed
01:17:798 (3) - Break into 2 circles instead is better, for vocal and imo the stream play more comfortable that way Okay,change 2 notes.
Nice diff~ Thanks !
[Hard]
00:05:151 (4) - Ctrl+G flows alot better (3) curve is going up so its better to have the head up o3o and it wont effect the flow with the next note o3o Okay,changed.
00:10:449 (5,6) - Fix this blanket a bit look at the Approach circle o3o Okay
00:18:116 (4,5,6) - Try this? Okay,changed.
SPOILER
Flows better imo cuz currently the curve of (5) is jammering the flow
00:42:116 (4,5) - nazi fiix the stack o3o fixed
00:54:464 (1,3) - Blanket could be done neater here Move a bit.
01:19:798 (1,2,3) - Nazi fix the stack o3o fixed
01:20:464 (4,5,6) - ^ ^
Nice aswell tho I dont agree with these sliders with 2 repeats like this 00:48:465 (8) - but its just personal preference.I think it is fine in the rhythm ,I select follow the vocal here
[Normal]
First of all OD+1 to balance the set Okay
00:22:449 (1,2,3) - Doesnt really look neat and also doesnt flow really good imo try this? fixed
SPOILER
00:41:116 (1) - Why a finish here, no indication in the music for it or something else, imo you should remove it. Okay,deleted.
00:45:783 (4) - Missing clap here Already added.
00:46:116 (5) - Lower the volume a bit, to noisy like this imo Turn down 20 % volume.
00:47:798 (3,4,5,6) - How about some zigzag for more natural flow: Okay,fixed.
SPOILER
01:11:798 (4,5,6,7) - errr turn those into two 1/2 slider to follow the vocal better? this plays a bit weird atm imo Okay,change 1/2 slider for this 4 notes.
01:15:798 (1,2) - Rythm is weird here cuz your skipping the major beats here try this: Good,fixed.
SPOILER
[Easy]
00:38:449 (1,2) - Plays awkward imo again your not focusing on the major beats >< try this: Okay,fixed.
SPOILER
00:41:116 (1) - Same as normal about the finish here Deleted.
01:15:798 (1) - Meh skipping major beats here making this feel awkward try this: fixed.
SPOILER
01:17:798 (4) - Shorten this slider by 1/2 imo plays alot better and 1/2 in easy is meh Okay,fixed.
01:20:464 - uuh add 1/2 slider here o-o with a clap at the end. Okay,changed.
Good easy but dont agree with some 1/2 but w/e o3o 030
Well hope this was helpful o3o contact me if you some things weren't clear~Sure,every suggest I have understand it,very useful ~ 030 !

Thanks xChippy ~ ! hoo~reply finish ! So long ~~ 030"

Kenezz

osu! Alumni

1,136 posts

Joined September 2009

Kenezz 2014-05-18T02:58:24+00:00

Heeey

[Easy]

00:33:116 (1,2,1) - This could be so hard to rookie players since (2) is on an red tick after a little pause when (1) is on white tick, so confusing. Then I suggest add an 1/4 slider on 00:33:116 (deleting 1 and 2 obviously) to follow the track and avoid the 1/2~1/2 spacing with 00:34:449 (1). Also you'll not need another nc because the new slider follows the track too. http://puu.sh/8IVAG.jpg. If you don't add with this at least try to avoid that slider on red tick, really is hard to follow.
00:40:616 (4) -This slider don't convinced me at all because if you want follow the voice like the previous beats, then this slider should end up on 00:41:116, as it is now feels awkward because on that red tick the track and the voice doesn't mark anything so here's my suggestion: Move the spinner by 1/2 forwards and shorten by 1/2, then extend the slider by 1/2 and add a finish at the end. http://puu.sh/8IWon.jpg

[Normal]

00:24:449 (1,2) - Add an slider instead those circles, just to be consistent with 01:23:131 (1) or here add two stacked circles idk.
01:13:131 (1) - Check the spacing, is slightly different here. You can move 01:12:464 (5) a bit to the right and voilà~

[Hard]

00:07:783 (2,3) - The spacing between these circles is kinda confusing, as it now feels like 1/2~1/2 or 1/1~1/1 when actually is 2/1~2/1, then I suggest move (3) away (2) or maybe stack (2) and (3). Try to fix this somewhat.
00:11:449 (7) - Stack this circle properly with the tail of the previous slider.
00:24:949 (2) - The new combo should start here because you follow the voice in the next combo and this circle follow the voice of the next phrase as well. Just like the easy or normal.
00:24:449 (1) - Maybe add two cricles instead this slider and make something like 01:23:131 (1,2) jump, jump~
00:56:464 (7) - Rotate by 13° anti-clockwise and ajust the slider to the tail of the previous to make something like this: http://puu.sh/8K2qw.jpg. If you add don't forget fix the spacing with the next circle.

[Insane]

00:14:116 (1) - The NC is needless since the previous and this follow the same part of the track.
00:55:131 (3) - Maybe move the control point of the tail to make a blanket with the previous slider, somethins like this: http://puu.sh/8LyXU.jpg
00:56:964 (1) - I can't see the reason to add a nc here, delete it please.
01:00:464 (3) - The flow on the slider could be better if you move the central control point downwards and if you add then, 01:00:798 (4) - Delete this and copy/paste 01:00:131 (2) in this place. http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/1604494. Really I think this improves the flow in these and the next slider.
01:02:131 (1) - Remove this NC too.
01:23:631 (3) - Start the new combo here because this triplet belong to the next part of the track.

[ZZH's Insane]

00:08:366 - I can't hear anything here then, why you placed a beat here? *overmap* The slider tail really sounds off, maybe remove the slider and only leaves a circle on 00:08:283. You can stack the two circles if you want. http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/1617814
00:24:199 (7) - Same thing like the previous point, *overmap* Considers remove this circle then.
00:24:949 (1) - I think this NC is needless, maybe remove it.
00:35:449 (1) - Same as before.
00:44:616 (1) - Change the SV for .75 instead .5, now this slowdown is actually bit awkward since the song don't mark something like a slowdown and .5 is too slow.
00:46:116 (1) - The NC is needless because these circles follows the same rhythm like the previous.
00:57:964 (3) - This change of the spacing requires new combo so add one here.
01:00:048 (2) - Same as 00:08:366 & 00:24:199 (7), overmap thing, remove this circle maybe.
01:25:131 (7) - Maybe add new combo, now this is a bit longer than the others.
Well in general I don't understand your spacement, in some parts you used this type of spacing 00:57:048 (5,1) with 1/4 ~1/4 beats and in others parts something like this: 01:13:131 (1,2) ¯\__(ツ)__/¯
The flow is kinda weird in some parts of the map but meeh. Just one thing more, please, really try to do something with those circles overmaped.

And the m4m ends here
I love this anime and this song and kanon AAH
Good luck then~

ZZHBOY

1,649 posts

Joined April 2012

ZZHBOY 2014-05-18T04:42:29+00:00

Kenezz wrote:
Heeey

[ZZH's Insane]
00:08:366 - I can't hear anything here then, why you placed a beat here? *overmap* The slider tail really sounds off, maybe remove the slider and only leaves a circle on 00:08:283. You can stack the two circles if you want. turn your volume up ,you can find here has a sound clearly. playing by 0.25-speed absolutely can show the sound here, i promise.
00:24:199 (7) - Same thing like the previous point, *overmap* Considers remove this circle then.otherwise, i followed the sound of breathe in here.Else, this can emphasize the strong beat at 00:24:449 - and will make it play better
00:24:949 (1) - I think this NC is needless, maybe remove it.seems fine
00:35:449 (1) - Same as before.in fact, i set a new combo here mean to distinguish the 1/4 slider and next circles.it can help player to read the rhythm here easier so i decide to keep this nc
00:44:616 (1) - Change the SV for .75 instead .5, now this slowdown is actually bit awkward since the song don't mark something like a slowdown and .5 is too slow.first, lower sv can create a sense of hierarchy on the sound.Also, if I use 0.75 sv instead, this slider will mach longer than next one to make it ugly in vision.sv for 0.5 is fine here imo.
00:46:116 (1) - The NC is needless because these circles follows the same rhythm like the previous.you are right.removed.-.
00:57:964 (3) - This change of the spacing requires new combo so add one here.yep.added!
01:00:048 (2) - Same as 00:08:366 & 00:24:199 (7), overmap thing, remove this circle maybe.em.........i change previous slider into 3/4slider finally.....i really want to follow the long vocal here so.....QAQQQQ
01:25:131 (7) - Maybe add new combo, now this is a bit longer than the others.
Well in general I don't understand your spacement, in some parts you used this type of spacing 00:57:048 (5,1) with 1/4 ~1/4 beats and in others parts something like this: 01:13:131 (1,2) ¯\__(ツ)__/¯
The flow is kinda weird in some parts of the map but meeh. Just one thing more, please, really try to do something with those circles overmaped.
;w;
And the m4m ends here
I love this anime and this song and kanon AAH
Good luck then~

SPOILER

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TitleUnicode:killy killy JOKER (TV Size)
Artist:Wakeshima Kanon
ArtistUnicode:分島花音
Creator:smallboat
Version:ZZH's Insane
Source:Selector Infected WIXOSS
Tags:Wish Across opening card game battle loli girl Project Selector J.C.STAFF ZZHBOY Rūko Kominato
BeatmapID:409588
BeatmapSetID:168253

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304,124,62798,2,0,P|344:172|352:228,1,90,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
304,328,63131,1,0,0:0:0:0:
256,232,63298,1,0,0:0:0:0:
164,40,63464,1,2,0:0:0:0:
212,136,63631,1,0,0:0:0:0:
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342,42,64131,1,10,0:0:0:0:
310,180,64298,1,0,0:0:0:0:
216,292,64464,2,0,P|144:312|104:288,1,90,0|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
16,192,64797,1,2,0:0:0:0:
162,233,64964,1,0,0:0:0:0:
289,312,65131,6,0,P|357:260|397:172,1,180,4|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
396,176,65631,1,0,0:0:0:0:
168,48,65798,2,0,L|264:96,1,90,0|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
148,172,66131,2,0,L|244:220,1,90,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
396,175,66464,6,0,L|264:102,1,135,0|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
220,60,66798,2,0,P|216:136|200:160,1,90,10|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
64,248,67131,1,0,0:0:0:0:
116,92,67298,1,0,0:0:0:0:
228,211,67464,1,2,0:0:0:0:
295,61,67631,1,0,0:0:0:0:
295,61,67714,1,0,0:0:0:0:
295,61,67798,6,0,L|386:140,1,90,4|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
183,151,68131,2,0,L|116:92,1,90,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
149,263,68464,2,0,L|217:323,1,90,0|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
396,292,68797,2,0,L|305:213,1,90,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
184,52,69131,6,0,P|176:120|148:160,1,90,4|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
116,264,69464,2,0,P|184:272|224:300,1,90,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
328,332,69798,2,0,P|336:264|364:224,1,90,0|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
396,120,70131,2,0,P|328:112|288:84,1,90,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
48,64,70464,6,0,B|184:52|184:52|240:88,1,180,6|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
248,233,70964,1,0,0:0:0:0:
380,140,71131,2,0,L|472:96,2,90,0|0|2,0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
264,60,71631,1,0,0:0:0:0:
264,60,71714,1,0,0:0:0:0:
264,60,71798,6,0,B|184:32|184:32|80:48,1,180,4|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
47,208,72298,1,0,0:0:0:0:
195,346,72464,1,0,0:0:0:0:
156,147,72631,1,0,0:0:0:0:
70,332,72798,1,2,0:0:0:0:
248,233,72964,1,0,0:0:0:0:
248,233,73048,1,0,0:0:0:0:
248,232,73131,6,0,P|332:192|396:208,1,135,4|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
412,232,73464,2,0,L|440:132,1,90,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
328,20,73798,2,0,L|303:106,1,90,0|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
160,268,74131,2,0,L|192:160,1,90,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
236,48,74464,6,0,P|168:72|76:64,1,135,4|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
60,48,74798,1,2,0:0:0:0:
96,164,74964,1,0,0:0:0:0:
160,268,75131,2,0,P|118:284|73:283,1,90,0|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
236,204,75464,2,0,P|277:187|322:188,1,90,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
424,320,75798,6,0,L|428:144,1,135,4|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
436,140,76131,1,0,0:0:0:0:
484,4,76298,5,4,0:0:0:0:
436,140,76631,1,0,0:0:0:0:
436,140,76798,1,8,0:0:0:0:
436,140,76964,6,0,B|368:200|368:200|304:128|216:148,1,225,6|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
208,168,77464,2,0,L|136:76,1,90,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
132,240,77798,1,8,0:0:0:0:
280,216,77964,1,0,0:0:0:0:
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320,88,78464,6,0,L|436:88,1,90,4|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
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100,152,79381,1,0,0:0:0:0:
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480,296,82464,2,0,B|404:244|404:244|385:194|384:144,1,180,0|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
400,108,82881,1,0,0:0:0:0:
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132,264,84131,2,0,L|218:240,1,90,10|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
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359,201,85464,1,8,0:0:0:0:
152,240,85631,2,0,B|200:248|200:248|260:232,1,90,0|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
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224,152,86964,1,0,0:0:0:0:
332,208,87131,1,0,0:0:0:0:
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56,248,87631,1,4,0:0:0:0:
256,192,87714,12,0,89131,0:0:0:0:

smallboat

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smallboat 2014-05-18T05:23:53+00:00

Kenezz wrote:
Heeey Hihi Kenezz ~ !

[Easy]
00:33:116 (1,2,1) - This could be so hard to rookie players since (2) is on an red tick after a little pause when (1) is on white tick, so confusing. Then I suggest add an 1/4 slider on 00:33:116 (deleting 1 and 2 obviously) to follow the track and avoid the 1/2~1/2 spacing with 00:34:449 (1). Also you'll not need another nc because the new slider follows the track too. http://puu.sh/8IVAG.jpg. If you don't add with this at least try to avoid that slider on red tick, really is hard to follow.Okay,change rhythm and NC here.
00:40:616 (4) -This slider don't convinced me at all because if you want follow the voice like the previous beats, then this slider should end up on 00:41:116, as it is now feels awkward because on that red tick the track and the voice doesn't mark anything so here's my suggestion: Move the spinner by 1/2 forwards and shorten by 1/2, then extend the slider by 1/2 and add a finish at the end. http://puu.sh/8IWon.jpg Okay,change slider here.But the spinner head seems have a bit close,so I move to 00:41:449 (1) here.

[Normal]
00:24:449 (1,2) - Add an slider instead those circles, just to be consistent with 01:23:131 (1) or here add two stacked circles idk.Okay,changed.
01:13:131 (1) - Check the spacing, is slightly different here. You can move 01:12:464 (5) a bit to the right and voilà~Forgot notice DS here,fixed.
[Hard]
00:07:783 (2,3) - The spacing between these circles is kinda confusing, as it now feels like 1/2~1/2 or 1/1~1/1 when actually is 2/1~2/1, then I suggest move (3) away (2) or maybe stack (2) and (3). Try to fix this somewhat. Sure,then I select stack (2)(3)here.
00:11:449 (7) - Stack this circle properly with the tail of the previous slider. fixed
00:24:949 (2) - The new combo should start here because you follow the voice in the next combo and this circle follow the voice of the next phrase as well. Just like the easy or normal.Added
00:24:449 (1) - Maybe add two cricles instead this slider and make something like 01:23:131 (1,2) jump, jump~ Good,I forgot use jump here,fixed.
00:56:464 (7) - Rotate by 13° anti-clockwise and ajust the slider to the tail of the previous to make something like this: http://puu.sh/8K2qw.jpg. If you add don't forget fix the spacing with the next circle.Sure,fixe this slider.
[Insane]
00:14:116 (1) - The NC is needless since the previous and this follow the same part of the track. Okay,fixed
00:55:131 (3) - Maybe move the control point of the tail to make a blanket with the previous slider, somethins like this: http://puu.sh/8LyXU.jpg Sure,move up a bit.
00:56:964 (1) - I can't see the reason to add a nc here, delete it please. Sure,delete this NC.
01:00:464 (3) - The flow on the slider could be better if you move the central control point downwards and if you add then, 01:00:798 (4) - Delete this and copy/paste 01:00:131 (2) in this place. http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/1604494. Really I think this improves the flow in these and the next slider. Sure,change slider flow here.
01:02:131 (1) - Remove this NC too. fixed
01:23:631 (3) - Start the new combo here because this triplet belong to the next part of the track. Okay,add NC here.
And the m4m ends here
I love this anime and this song and kanon AAH wow,I like it,too and I like "kanon" this singer.
Good luck then~Thanks Kenezz ~ !

All updated.

Kenezz

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Kenezz 2014-05-22T02:56:09+00:00

Re-check time~

[General]

AiBat said: http://puu.sh/8W2K5.png Check the start of the second kiai on Insane and ZZH's Insane, is different by 1 ms

[Hard]

00:44:530 - Unsnapped inherited section, should be in 00:44:533

That's all, call me back when you have applied the changes.

smallboat

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smallboat 2014-05-22T03:11:24+00:00

Kenezz wrote:
Re-check time~

[General]
AiBat said: http://puu.sh/8W2K5.png Check the start of the second kiai on Insane and ZZH's Insane, is different by 1 ms
Okay,fixed to all consistent.

[Hard]
00:44:530 - Unsnapped inherited section, should be in 00:44:533 Okay,fixed.

That's all, call me back when you have applied the changes.Sure!

EDIT:Updated

To Kenezz : Perhaps the AiBat program detect a bug,I am quite confirm this first and second kiai time number are consistent (green and white line. )

Kenezz

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Kenezz 2014-05-22T14:05:26+00:00

Okay, seems fine to me.
Bubbies

tuwari

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tuwari 2014-05-23T16:04:58+00:00

nice map

Tari

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Tari 2014-05-25T23:21:56+00:00

Good Job <3

go rank it now

BeatofIke

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BeatofIke 2014-06-03T14:44:02+00:00

Re-bubbled due to timing fix!

wcx19911123

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wcx19911123 2014-06-03T17:01:55+00:00

不用kd了

[ZZH's Insane]
00:59:116 - 这里开始直到01:16:949 - 感觉finish吓得有点多。。我觉得可以根据歌曲来remove一些

[Insane]
01:28:949 - 这地方感觉单个note就可以了，更合曲点

话说我感觉总体音效有点小声，尤其finish系，我建议换个别的或者把files改大声点。。
明天看看timing

ZZHBOY

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ZZHBOY 2014-06-04T02:15:42+00:00

wcx19911123 wrote:
不用kd了

[ZZH's Insane]
00:59:116 - 这里开始直到01:16:949 - 感觉finish吓得有点多。。我觉得可以根据歌曲来remove一些

[Insane]
01:28:949 - 这地方感觉单个note就可以了，更合曲点

话说我感觉总体音效有点小声，尤其finish系，我建议换个别的或者把files改大声点。。
明天看看timing

帮我直接把01:03:783 -
01:09:116 - 这两个finish去掉好了

smallboat

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smallboat 2014-06-04T17:36:41+00:00

wcx19911123 wrote:
不用kd了

[Insane]
01:28:949 - 这地方感觉单个note就可以了，更合曲点好

话说我感觉总体音效有点小声，尤其finish系，我建议换个别的或者把files改大声点。。 finish音量已用工具調高了點,然後總體音量調高10~15%,但我finish還是不想太大聲所以+了5~10%左右
明天看看timing 等你

謝了長喜抽空前來check,updated.

~~WIXOSS GOGO!~~

wcx19911123

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wcx19911123 2014-06-04T21:09:10+00:00

[ZZH's Insane]
忘了video
顺带一说finish的音效文件都换了，你还是redl一下，然后改改。。现在的finish太大声了
然后有些tick音感觉也很诡异00:49:290 - 00:51:123 - 像这些，这种最好都改改

edit: we fixed the timing(changed offset from 1117 to 1124 after finding some ppl's opinions), changed a few hitsounds files, and some patterns in some diffs
fine now, rebubbled

captin1

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captin1 2014-06-06T03:35:33+00:00

Did some irc, looks good!

ranked

SPOILER

2014-06-05 21:50 captin1: easy: 00:14:456 (1) - you can move the white slider point to the right, to make the curve look neater http://puu.sh/9h1A4.jpg
2014-06-05 21:51 smallboat: agree, fixed
2014-06-05 21:54 captin1: 00:19:790 - unsure about this section, this is the only one where you use 1/2 during the fast bpm, I have a couple ways you could change the rhythm to keep it 1/1 spacing
2014-06-05 21:55 captin1: 00:21:456 (3) - starting 1/2 later at 00:21:623 - , 00:22:790 (2) - ending 1/2 earlier at 00:23:290 -
2014-06-05 21:55 captin1: up to you if you agree
2014-06-05 21:55 smallboat: okay agree
2014-06-05 21:55 captin1: after that easy is good
2014-06-05 21:55 smallboat: okay
2014-06-05 21:57 captin1: normal: 00:20:790 (3) - you could move 1/2 earlier to 00:20:623 - , since you follow the instrument more in this section, rather than the vocal
2014-06-05 21:58 smallboat: okay
2014-06-05 22:00 captin1: 00:39:956 - these notes are too soft, you should add another timing section at 00:39:956 - back to regular volume of 55%
2014-06-05 22:01 smallboat: is add a green line set 55% volume?
2014-06-05 22:01 captin1: yes
2014-06-05 22:02 smallboat: okay agree

2014-06-05 22:04 captin1: 01:16:956 - here too, should add a green line at 75% volume
2014-06-05 22:04 smallboat: aggre added
2014-06-05 22:04 smallboat: *agree
2014-06-05 22:05 captin1: after that normal is good
2014-06-05 22:05 smallboat: okay thx
2014-06-05 22:07 captin1: hard: 00:40:790 (4) - why is this reduced to 20%? I think it should be kept at normal volume, so remove the green lines here
2014-06-05 22:09 smallboat: ahh~ I set the error volume,sorry ,then I deleted this line,fixed
2014-06-05 22:10 captin1: 01:16:623 (5) - same here, I think this is too soft
2014-06-05 22:11 smallboat: okay,deleted this line
2014-06-05 22:12 smallboat: another diff I have checked and deleted ,too
2014-06-05 22:12 captin1: cool
2014-06-05 22:13 smallboat:

2014-06-05 22:14 captin1: insane 00:46:123 - stream is too soft >< unless you already fixed
2014-06-05 22:14 smallboat: 030
2014-06-05 22:15 smallboat: so suggest no stream here?
2014-06-05 22:15 captin1: suggest raising volume
2014-06-05 22:16 smallboat: okay agree
2014-06-05 22:18 captin1: 01:12:790 (4) - I think a placement more like this would feel much more comfortable to play http://puu.sh/9h3eE.jpg
2014-06-05 22:19 smallboat: okay agree! nice
2014-06-05 22:21 captin1: 01:17:456 (2) - I think a ctrl+g here would feel better as well. You could move 3 more down and right if you'd like it to still have larger spacing
2014-06-05 22:22 smallboat: okay fixed
2014-06-05 22:23 captin1: 00:53:790 (3) - add NC? if you do, 01:09:790 (3) - here as well
2014-06-05 22:24 smallboat: okay ,agree.I"ll add NC here
2014-06-05 22:25 captin1: 00:29:123 (6) - NC? would fit in the pattern better
2014-06-05 22:26 smallboat: okay,agree add NC here.
2014-06-05 22:26 captin1: 00:42:290 (6) - here as well,
2014-06-05 22:27 smallboat: okay
2014-06-05 22:28 captin1: should be good, and nothing important to mention in ZZH's diff
2014-06-05 22:29 captin1: go ahead and update
2014-06-05 22:30 smallboat: really? but ZZH"finish hs not feel noisy?
2014-06-05 22:30 captin1: I think it's fine

Kyouren

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Kyouren 2014-06-06T03:44:16+00:00

Gratzz!! smallboat and ZZHBOY!!^^

HanzeR

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HanzeR 2014-06-06T03:47:31+00:00

nicee

Oyatsu

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Oyatsu 2014-06-06T04:10:54+00:00

Congratz!

Sorry, I'm not sure but maybe tittle is only "killy killy JOKER"? Not have "(TV Size)"

Source: http://selector-wixoss.com/ at "Music" tab

captin1

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captin1 2014-06-06T04:29:14+00:00

did some discussion and asked around, and this current title is the right one to use in this case. thanks for bringing it up though

BeatofIke

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BeatofIke 2014-06-06T04:34:05+00:00

Congrats!

ZZHBOY

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ZZHBOY 2014-06-06T05:35:16+00:00

爽终于i有I难度rankedgd热妈的信船业随手ranked

toara_fict

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toara_fict 2014-06-06T06:07:57+00:00

Gratz~ :3

Satellite

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Satellite 2014-06-06T06:32:28+00:00

congratz :3

Mao

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Mao 2014-06-06T11:20:35+00:00

Cool, congratz! :3

Kenezz

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Kenezz 2014-06-07T02:47:10+00:00

Gratz o3o

smallboat

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smallboat 2014-06-07T03:00:56+00:00

Thanks everyone ~ ! www

ZZHBOY wrote:
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~~下次不給你做I~~

kirigherkins

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kirigherkins 2014-06-08T20:00:49+00:00

Thank you for finally convincing me to watch this.
Best decision.

dkun

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dkun 2014-06-11T19:38:53+00:00

ykcarrot wrote:
Here are mistakes you BATs did. Qualified maps only.

Case 1. The suffix was changed by the mapper

SID - V.I.P (TV Size) Has now been put into ranked at the time of this post.
Correct title : V.I.P -アニメ Ver.-
Proof : http://vgmdb.net/album/35508

SAKURA*TRICK - Won(*3*)Chu KissMe! (TV Size) taken out of qualified.
Correct title : Won(*3*)Chu KissMe! [TVサイズ]
Proof : http://vgmdb.net/album/43764

Case 2. TV sized song was not released through the album
In this case, every suffix should be removed. Because the mapper can't prove "song name (TV Size)" is correct.
If you think the credits of the video is a reputable source, watch the video. There is no suffix at all.

Fuchigami Mai - Watashi no Housekibako (TV Size) taken out of qualified based on what's been given.
Related albums : http://vgmdb.net/album/41016 http://vgmdb.net/album/42072
Video : http://youtu.be/HhHPXZX1KGg?t=55s

Wakeshima Kanon - killy killy JOKER (TV Size)
Related album : http://vgmdb.net/album/44570
Video : http://youtu.be/rzY7qyXEBSI?t=48s

Petit Rabbit's - Daydream cafe (TV Size)
Related album : http://vgmdb.net/album/44890
Video : http://youtu.be/wtjSP5rlk5k?t=59s

Seems you BATs don't want to change the rule, so you are demanding maps have title error.
Then unrank them all up to your conviction. And watch the mappers' reaction.
Most of them will change the title because they really hope their own map being ranked and have no power against the BATs.
Or have no will to change the rule.

They were many maps have error since the rule was legislated. Because the song title in the rule includes extension(suffix).
Some people raised objections to the rule since the day, they were ignored exhaustively.
You BATs still saying let's discuss in RC, but I can just imagine how my opinion will be ignored.

Another really trivial issue, but please remove (TV Size) from the title, as it's not listed in any official sources. Please let me know if you have any credible sources or if you've removed the title.

I'll be more than happy to put this map back into qualified.

Sekai

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Sekai 2014-06-11T19:56:09+00:00

well I found another source with the tv size title o.o

I think it's fair enough, to keep it as it is.

dkun

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dkun 2014-06-11T21:12:21+00:00

The actual title is what is in the brackets. What you linked is just verifying that it's actually a TV size, not that the title includes TV size.

Sekai

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Sekai 2014-06-11T21:49:49+00:00

dkun wrote:
The actual title is what is in the brackets. What you linked is just verifying that it's actually a TV size, not that the title includes TV size.

But that's from the official site, and that's the soundtrack for this series.

So I guess it can be titled like this at least "killy killy JOKER TV size"

And the soundtrack will be out soon o3o/

hopperhtkn

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hopperhtkn 2014-06-12T03:50:45+00:00

Any BATs looks like Mental patient or too stupid.
You guys should think again why we have used (TV size) for TV size maps.

The rule we really need is "All Anime size maps should put (TV size) the end"

I'm sry violent language but I'm so irritate about that thing.

Best Regards.

Sellenite

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Sellenite 2014-06-12T04:43:58+00:00

dkun wrote:
The actual title is what is in the brackets. What you linked is just verifying that it's actually a TV size, not that the title includes TV size.

Anyone who supports title without TV size. I consider he/she is stupid enough，try to find the source please
try not self-talk among your BATs’ community，try to more consider general mappers please
so many funny unrank stuffs now
good game.

captin1

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captin1 2014-06-12T08:43:48+00:00

I think this is a much larger scale change than what you may be making it by calling it trivial. this is something that will affect hundreds of current pending maps if this is established as the rule.

I believe the title should be kept as is, as this is the official shortened cut for the TV broadcast, while an official metadata source of this particular cut simply does not exist yet. the (TV Size) suffix is one that is extremely well established and understood. Any casual player will look at a mapset with this suffix and understand that it is the shortened cut for the anime. and isn't that the most important thing?

If anything, I don't think this is just a slight change, and should be brought to discussion in the team and in the general community before a full consensus and standard is reached and established

mintong89

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mintong89 2014-06-12T10:23:24+00:00

http://www.amazon.co.jp/%E3%80%8Cselect ... =pd_cp_m_1

I guess this is already can be a source. dkun, I know you want to follow the rules, but next time can you please check properly before unrank something? Unrank isn't a good thing, it'll completely hurt the mapper, and don't trust that ykcarrot's quote rigidly.

keeeeeeko

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keeeeeeko 2014-06-12T22:56:29+00:00

I found Source. http://recochoku.jp/song/S1000304110/

SPOILER

smallboat

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Topic Starter

smallboat 2014-06-13T02:28:05+00:00

Thanks everyone source offer (on title) , I hope it rerank soon !

BeatofIke

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BeatofIke 2014-06-13T03:11:24+00:00

Re-rank this map already!
Unranking this map was pointless!

ZZHBOY

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ZZHBOY 2014-06-13T03:32:44+00:00

dkun wrote:
The actual title is what is in the brackets. What you linked is just verifying that it's actually a TV size, not that the title includes TV size.

我比较帅所以我没被unrank 唔

dkun

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dkun 2014-06-13T17:32:51+00:00

mintong89 wrote:
http://www.amazon.co.jp/%E3%80%8Cselector-infected-WIXOSS%E3%80%8DBOX-WIXOSS%E3%82%B9%E3%82%BF%E3%83%BC%E3%82%BF%E3%83%BC%E3%83%87%E3%83%83%E3%82%AD%E4%BB%98-Blu-ray/dp/B00K68K1K0/ref=pd_cp_m_1

I guess this is already can be a source. dkun, I know you want to follow the rules, but next time can you please check properly before unrank something? Unrank isn't a good thing, it'll completely hurt the mapper, and don't trust that ykcarrot's quote rigidly.

t/146542 - maybe you should read up some more

Ranking this as-is after discussion with smallboat. Please treat this as the same from the previous set of BAT's.

Zero__wind

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Zero__wind 2014-06-13T18:26:27+00:00

大家好我来给激霸音效投1分儿了

smallboat

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smallboat 2014-06-13T18:31:51+00:00