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You play songs you don't like, like many of usdinopwn wrote:
I try to play a variety of maps but I just can't find songs that I like :/ what to do
Quite honestly.. After reading this i really just want to quit the game.
My bad habits are the reason i still play. I might aswell face it.
*I will never be able to keep a constant stream speed when streaming.
*I will never be able to play HR because of EXTREMELY bad acc.
*I will never be able to properly read nomod.
*I will never find a grip that suits me since i always manage to turn my tablet erasing pretty much all existing musclememory.
*I will never be able to attain my #1 in Denmark.
Story of my Osu! life atm. Atleast i can entertain people through streaming by playing fast stuff. Though no Fc'es or good acc's.
Someone coach me T_T
My bad habits are the reason i still play. I might aswell face it.
*I will never be able to keep a constant stream speed when streaming.
*I will never be able to play HR because of EXTREMELY bad acc.
*I will never be able to properly read nomod.
*I will never find a grip that suits me since i always manage to turn my tablet erasing pretty much all existing musclememory.
*I will never be able to attain my #1 in Denmark.
Story of my Osu! life atm. Atleast i can entertain people through streaming by playing fast stuff. Though no Fc'es or good acc's.
Someone coach me T_T
Switch to another mode or practice nonstop. What your choice. Currently practicing with Taiko and hopefully trying to get to level 50 on there since I am 50+ on each mode. THAT WAS DEDICATION TO GET BETTER, not complaining in this threadMayoi Hachikuji wrote:
Quite honestly.. After reading this i really just want to quit the game.
My bad habits are the reason i still play. I might aswell face it.
*I will never be able to keep a constant stream speed when streaming.
*I will never be able to play HR because of EXTREMELY bad acc.
*I will never be able to properly read nomod.
*I will never find a grip that suits me since i always manage to turn my tablet erasing pretty much all existing musclememory.
*I will never be able to attain my #1 in Denmark.
Story of my Osu! life atm. Atleast i can entertain people through streaming by playing fast stuff. Though no Fc'es or good acc's.
Someone coach me T_T
Sulker wrote:
Switch to another mode or practice nonstop. What your choice. Currently practicing with Taiko and hopefully trying to get to level 50 on there since I am 50+ on each mode. THAT WAS DEDICATION TO GET BETTER, not complaining in this threadMayoi Hachikuji wrote:
Quite honestly.. After reading this i really just want to quit the game.
My bad habits are the reason i still play. I might aswell face it.
*I will never be able to keep a constant stream speed when streaming.
*I will never be able to play HR because of EXTREMELY bad acc.
*I will never be able to properly read nomod.
*I will never find a grip that suits me since i always manage to turn my tablet erasing pretty much all existing musclememory.
*I will never be able to attain my #1 in Denmark.
Story of my Osu! life atm. Atleast i can entertain people through streaming by playing fast stuff. Though no Fc'es or good acc's.
Someone coach me T_T
Practice non-stop is really the worst thing i can do atm. I and about everyone else knows this. I don't find the other modes boring and wouldn't bother trying them. :s
Oh well good luck then. Sulking around isn't going to do you good either. Oh the irony
Why do i feel like I am getting called out for all of my mistakes
I feel like I'm improving and I'm not at the same time. I can read patterns better, and some songs i thought were difficult and fast before seem slow-medium now. overall i hit difficult sections better, but still not consistently. The problem is I always, always have a stupid miss or 2 which ruins my FC (on hard usually) or i have a miss or 2 on insane and the high hp drain kills me. (then i get pissed off and curse internally about how you shouldn't be able to fail a song in a rhthym game while comboing it and stop playing for at least a few hours). Also, sometimes i feel like i play my best my first time playing a song, or even my first time playing a song in a session. consecutive tries of a song seem to have stupid misses much more frequently 
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TL;DR - everything is improving but my consistency and I don't know how to practice/improve that. combo oriented game + no consistency = no high scores (at least not without hundreds of retries or more)
.TL;DR - everything is improving but my consistency and I don't know how to practice/improve that. combo oriented game + no consistency = no high scores (at least not without hundreds of retries or more)
ScarletStory
Well, since the post was too long...(I wanted to add that was sarcasm because I assumed you were talking about your own post) I'll keep this short. Practice(by just playing maps) = increased consistency overall; due to repetition building up muscle memory + general increase in experience. There you go that's probably the best answer I can give as far as consistency is concerned.DLH112 wrote:
I feel like I'm improving and I'm not at the same time. I can read patterns better, and some songs i thought were difficult and fast before seem slow-medium now. overall i hit difficult sections better, but still not consistently. The problem is I always, always have a stupid miss or 2 which ruins my FC (on hard usually) or i have a miss or 2 on insane and the high hp drain kills me. (then i get pissed off and curse internally about how you shouldn't be able to fail a song in a rhthym game while comboing it and stop playing for at least a few hours). Also, sometimes i feel like i play my best my first time playing a song, or even my first time playing a song in a session. consecutive tries of a song seem to have stupid misses much more frequently
TL;DR - everything is improving but my consistency and I don't know how to practice/improve that. combo oriented game + no consistency = no high scores (at least not without hundreds of retries or more)
hei bad habit section
dats me
leave the bickering for legitimate bad players
dats me
i dont get it, you're rank 1 denmark, and you have good acc...Mayoi Hachikuji wrote:
Quite honestly.. After reading this i really just want to quit the game.
My bad habits are the reason i still play. I might aswell face it.
*I will never be able to keep a constant stream speed when streaming.
*I will never be able to play HR because of EXTREMELY bad acc.
*I will never be able to properly read nomod.
*I will never find a grip that suits me since i always manage to turn my tablet erasing pretty much all existing musclememory.
*I will never be able to attain my #1 in Denmark.
Story of my Osu! life atm. Atleast i can entertain people through streaming by playing fast stuff. Though no Fc'es or good acc's.
Someone coach me T_T
leave the bickering for legitimate bad players
I won't be that in a month or 2. Trust me.Bassist Vinyl wrote:
hei bad habit section
dats mei dont get it, you're rank 1 denmark, and you have good acc...Mayoi Hachikuji wrote:
Quite honestly.. After reading this i really just want to quit the game.
My bad habits are the reason i still play. I might aswell face it.
*I will never be able to keep a constant stream speed when streaming.
*I will never be able to play HR because of EXTREMELY bad acc.
*I will never be able to properly read nomod.
*I will never find a grip that suits me since i always manage to turn my tablet erasing pretty much all existing musclememory.
*I will never be able to attain my #1 in Denmark.
Story of my Osu! life atm. Atleast i can entertain people through streaming by playing fast stuff. Though no Fc'es or good acc's.
Someone coach me T_T
leave the bickering for legitimate bad players
Did spot quite a few bad habits of mine after reading this thread and looking at my play for a bit.
Especially not following sliders, and not snapping to notes.
Been trying to concentrate on improving those aspects lately, hoping it'll do some good.
Good thread.
Especially not following sliders, and not snapping to notes.
Been trying to concentrate on improving those aspects lately, hoping it'll do some good.
Good thread.
Very informative. It's nice to see other people's view of the game. Great stuff we've got here. Thanks a lot! 
Thank you for the reminder.
It's been 3 years since I've touched osu. When I came back just recently, it was discerning to find out that my accuracy have dropped and that I could no longer play Hard/Insane songs as I have used to. While playing on a new comp is a factor, being way out of practice is another... But instead of pushing myself to doing Hard songs again, I guess it's best to just go with the flow and pick up some new songs for practice. After all, osu is meant to be fun~ /o/
It's been 3 years since I've touched osu. When I came back just recently, it was discerning to find out that my accuracy have dropped and that I could no longer play Hard/Insane songs as I have used to. While playing on a new comp is a factor, being way out of practice is another... But instead of pushing myself to doing Hard songs again, I guess it's best to just go with the flow and pick up some new songs for practice. After all, osu is meant to be fun~ /o/
Alright I'm gonna face it. That's me and maybe I'm trying out some new maps...(Played a song for hundreds of times for an SS and gave up at last)
Thanks, this was exactly what I was looking for, a guide that doesn't just tell me one simple word: "Practice", but actually tells me what I should practice on. Normally I get bored reading stuff like this because generally it's all the same bs again you hear everyone telling you. This "guide" was different tho, the sarcasm and the fun references (see what I did there?) made me smile and aroused more respect towards you.
I have been playing for real this game since nov-dec. Started playing insane and now I'm able to pass a good amount of them, but most of time I play with no fail songs I can't or barely pass (freedom dive, or some extra-lunatic difficulty of x song). My question is: can the use of no fail be considered a bad habit even though I have noticed a big improvement in singletapping, stream,stamina and aiming due to that?
Overall, a informative thread, most things are very true. Muscle memory is indeed a big thing in this game. I'm probably going to get a tablet, but its pretty obvious it will take time to reach the level I got with mouse.
Overall, a informative thread, most things are very true. Muscle memory is indeed a big thing in this game. I'm probably going to get a tablet, but its pretty obvious it will take time to reach the level I got with mouse.
I wouldn't consider it a bad habit as long as you're having fun while using it. If you keep playing really fast songs you can barley pass your accuracy is going to suffer a lot since you're most likely right now just tapping away. If you think you're fine in the accuracy department keep playing but be warned tapping as fast as you can isn't good for accuracy.leyendax69 wrote:
My question is: can the use of no fail be considered a bad habit even though I have noticed a big improvement in singletapping, stream,stamina and aiming due to that?
Overall, a informative thread, most things are very true. Muscle memory is indeed a big thing in this game. I'm probably going to get a tablet, but its pretty obvious it will take time to reach the level I got with mouse.
Also, it won't take you much time to get used to a tablet. Just find the right area that you feel comfortable playing with and after two days, one week max, you'll be back to what you used to be able to play. Muscle memory is important but osu! is a bunch of reading so since a tablet won't change your thinking you'll be fine.
Thanks for the help. What I meant for barely pass is that I cant finish them without fail, I can get good combos even on lunatic or extra songs with decent accuracy. Mainly because I'm more interested in train my skill than on improve my rank. And yeah I know muscle memory is not the only important thing, just pointing that out because lately I noticed jumps are a lot easier for me. Although that can be because I deactivated windows acceleration (thank god I did it).PinkHusky wrote:
I wouldn't consider it a bad habit as long as you're having fun while using it. If you keep playing really fast songs you can barley pass your accuracy is going to suffer a lot since you're most likely right now just tapping away. If you think you're fine in the accuracy department keep playing but be warned tapping as fast as you can isn't good for accuracy.
Also, it won't take you much time to get used to a tablet. Just find the right area that you feel comfortable playing with and after two days, one week max, you'll be back to what you used to be able to play. Muscle memory is important but osu! is a bunch of reading so since a tablet won't change your thinking you'll be fine.
Edit: I don't think I'm jut tapping away, my fingers are fast enough I think, unless I put DT on insanes.
ScarletStory
A very good question. Sadly, the best answer I can give you is a bit ambiguous. To answer the question "can the use of no fail be considered a bad habit", the best answer I could give you is maybe... I say that because of the different situations in which it can be used. Lets say there's two scenario's, A and B. Scenario A is where you are using no fail because you don't understand the map AT ALL i.e. you spend most of your time slamming your fingers around just kinda hoping for the best, you're all over the place and you just generally don't have the slightest clue what's going on or how this particular map is "possible". Scenario B you understand the map but there are a few parts that you don't understand but are trying to learn. You constantly fail at these parts due to say a weird stream, high HP drain rate, or fast sliders followed by fast singles or an array of other possibilities but overall you understand the map and can follow the beat and do well for the most part. I believe that the first scenario, A, would probably be most likely to bring about the bad habit of button mashing/not following the beat correctly but it does depend on the person sometimes facing maps you don't understand head on can work but I've found those experiences to be rare and few in number. On the other hand scenario B is one where I believe that using no-fail is perfectly fine. If there's just one or two parts of the map you cant seem to grasp I don't see the harm in trying to figure them out while at the same time practicing the parts of the map you do understand. That should be perfectly fine. In the end, it just kind of depends on how you are personally using no fail. If you're using no fail and getting 65% or less accuracy you should probably go practice other maps that you are able to do and then come back to that map later, however, if you are getting 85% or higher but just cant seem to pass it due to a few parts I think that using no fail is probably the second best option (next to half-time) in order to figure it out.leyendax69 wrote:
I have been playing for real this game since nov-dec. Started playing insane and now I'm able to pass a good amount of them, but most of time I play with no fail songs I can't or barely pass (freedom dive, or some extra-lunatic difficulty of x song). My question is: can the use of no fail be considered a bad habit even though I have noticed a big improvement in singletapping, stream,stamina and aiming due to that?
Overall, a informative thread, most things are very true. Muscle memory is indeed a big thing in this game. I'm probably going to get a tablet, but its pretty obvious it will take time to reach the level I got with mouse.
That is very helpful, in my case I think is the scenario B. And yes, there is songs where I get 60-65%, I don't retry and comeback a few days later to try it again with a 80+% most of the cases. So your answer clarifies me a little more the things. I really don't know if the difference between mouse and tablet is that huge, but I will see... mainly because I have a cheaper one and is very hard to aim correctly even if I can see the map clearly. Thank you ^.^ScarletStory wrote:
A very good question. Sadly, the best answer I can give you is a bit ambiguous. To answer the question "can the use of no fail be considered a bad habit", the best answer I could give you is maybe... I say that because of the different situations in which it can be used. Lets say there's two scenario's, A and B. Scenario A is where you are using no fail because you don't understand the map AT ALL i.e. you spend most of your time slamming your fingers around just kinda hoping for the best, you're all over the place and you just generally don't have the slightest clue what's going on or how this particular map is "possible". Scenario B you understand the map but there are a few parts that you don't understand but are trying to learn. You constantly fail at these parts due to say a weird stream, high HP drain rate, or fast sliders followed by fast singles or an array of other possibilities but overall you understand the map and can follow the beat and do well for the most part. I believe that the first scenario, A, would probably be most likely to bring about the bad habit of button mashing/not following the beat correctly but it does depend on the person sometimes facing maps you don't understand head on can work but I've found those experiences to be rare and few in number. On the other hand scenario B is one where I believe that using no-fail is perfectly fine. If there's just one or two parts of the map you cant seem to grasp I don't see the harm in trying to figure them out while at the same time practicing the parts of the map you do understand. That should be perfectly fine. In the end, it just kind of depends on how you are personally using no fail. If you're using no fail and getting 65% or less accuracy you should probably go practice other maps that you are able to do and then come back to that map later, however, if you are getting 85% or higher but just cant seem to pass it due to a few parts I think that using no fail is probably the second best option (next to half-time) in order to figure it out.
this is actually really insightful, thank you for writing this
^ THIS... THIS THIS AND THIS A HUNDRED TIMES.
i have that bad habit of changing my tablet area because i think making it larger in some maps and smaller in other ones will help me FC them when in reality it doesn't... bad thing i realized that after almost 8 months playing with tablet
Overall 10/10, there's a lot of bad things i do and i didn't even noticed, such as playing just because i want to improve... and it's true i don't have fun when i play for that reason.
Great thread
PD: Sorry for my bad grammar, english is not my native language :v
Wow what an amazing thread. Yes I can see my flaws now, with my streaming, aim, and other stuff. My fingers will sometimes lock up on streams and I end up failing the map. I mean, I do want to get better at osu, but for now I'm just casually playing (and trying to relearn how to play atm) I've always liked to try and entertain my friends, which was quite fun tbh. Though I never thought I was great at this game as far as skill was concerned, I guess I still have a long ways to go. I realized I have this bad habit of trying to fc maps and somehow miss a note at the end >.<
i just play osu and get better. i get frustrated but my frustration motivates me. i play for hours trying to improve my movement and my rhythm and then hours when im warmed up improving my speed. i dont see why this has to be as complicated as a nuclear reactor to understand. i mean i know people frown on saying "practice and get better" but practice has a lot of very small components which make it easy to understand. practice rhythm, movement and speed. sometimes practicing on lower speeds to ease yourself into higher ones is a good idea. practice noticeable flaws, sometimes feedback from friends is required for this. thats basically all i do and i continue to improve. ezpz.
i however never think i will be a top 500 or so player.. but that is a self confidence unrelated to osu style problem i have to tackle in my personal life. =w=
i however never think i will be a top 500 or so player.. but that is a self confidence unrelated to osu style problem i have to tackle in my personal life. =w=
ScarletStory
I agree with you practice is probably the only way to truly get better (if you haven't noticed I basically snuck in ways to practice throughout this entire thread without just saying "practice" by itself) osu! isn't something you can get better at by studying without doing. That would be similar to studying how a pianos pedals work and where the notes are at, then never playing a piano, and then expecting to be a master at it merely because you know how it works. At the same time I feel like it should be a given that my thoughts are not going to be correct for everyone because everyone's different and there are always exceptions. If you can honestly say you play osu! for hours constantly frustrated and using that frustration to improve I can respect that, in fact, if that's true you have the patience of a saint. My only counterargument could be, OKAY so lets say you get really good at osu! and you are now the best player of all times... now what? What's the point in improving if, from what I've gathered from what you said, you're just kinda pissing yourself off (frustrating yourself) for hours. Is it really worth it to spend countless hours you'll never get back only to find out that once you get good it doesn't even matter because you didn't like it in the first place? By the way that's one of my more objective thoughts too.Kurimu wrote:
i just play osu and get better. i get frustrated but my frustration motivates me. i play for hours trying to improve my movement and my rhythm and then hours when im warmed up improving my speed. i dont see why this has to be as complicated as a nuclear reactor to understand. i mean i know people frown on saying "practice and get better" but practice has a lot of very small components which make it easy to understand. practice rhythm, movement and speed. sometimes practicing on lower speeds to ease yourself into higher ones is a good idea. practice noticeable flaws, sometimes feedback from friends is required for this. thats basically all i do and i continue to improve. ezpz.
i however never think i will be a top 500 or so player.. but that is a self confidence unrelated to osu style problem i have to tackle in my personal life. =w=
If someone was practicing playing a guitar and you asked them if they liked to play the guitar and they said "it just frustrates me so I try to improve" wouldn't that kind of strike you as an "okay...what's the point of that?" moment? You didn't ever say you didn't enjoy osu! and I'm really not trying to put words in your mouth. I'm merely trying to back up my argument. You don't have to agree with it by any means in fact I encourage the challenging of ideas but at the same time I'm going to challenge the ideas that challenge my ideas and then me challenging others challenges is going to have someone else challenge my challenge its an endless cycle! It is true that I cannot ever have the same experiences as others or feel the exact same way as others or see things the exact same way as others, therefore, I'm kind of forced to generalize within this thread.... If it helps at least some people out great I would love that more than anything, and if it doesn't, that's okay too I'm sure they will find their own individualized ways to improve. My point is that 9 times out of 10 someone is really close and just needs just a tiny bit of information, possibly from this thread, to get over some kind of slump they're in or wall they've hit and that's what I'm hoping to accomplish. That's why I have to make it "rocket science" because if I don't and I merely generalized any further than I already have by just saying "practice" without explaining the problem/how to practice then my odds of helping anyone at all are just pretty much none. Hopefully this made some kind of sense I'm pretty scatter brained so I tend to jump between issues but this is probably as good as my response is gonna get.
Maxcimum_old
I've played this game a long while and I feel like i've been through some rough practice many times to the point where I know if i can FC a song. But the thing is.. ill get 1x miss every single play. Not even on the same notes. You're gonna wonder why I play the same map over and over, honestly i dont know either. https://osu.ppy.sh/s/134008 The main issue I see is the snapping, keep in mind i've played this map literally 40 times in a row(full duration no omg i missed time to retry bullshit) to the point i know how it flows correctly. But i still have this timing error.... I don't know how to fix it. It depresses the hell out of me and makes me quit.. because I feel i really could destroy it easily.
I have the same problem, you need to press a lot harder the keys making impossible to get an accurate stream at 200+ bpm. The only solution is to get a mechanical one, laptops are not for this game unless you are already pro in this game.Maxcimum wrote:
How about players who play osu! using laptop? Its hard to 'zxzxzx' faster because the laptop key isn't that sensitive than mechanical keyboard like Cherry MX or any good mechanical keyboard..
Having tested a laptop keyboard I can tell it's not THAT awful, might even be easier in some aspect because the keys are flat (speed), altough it's probably worse for long streams, my accuracy doesn't change going from one to the otherleyendax69 wrote:
I have the same problem, you need to press a lot harder the keys making impossible to get an accurate stream at 200+ bpm. The only solution is to get a mechanical one, laptops are not for this game unless you are already pro in this game.
I don't think people should generalize laptop keyboards. I'm assuming there's a difference between mine and all these other horrible ones people complain about, but if not then I don't really even see the big deal.
I prefer my laptop keyboard for speed, but from my limited experience with mechanical keyboards (friends, and ordered one recently), they feel better to play on and you don't have to hold back as much (I'm always afraid I'll break my laptop keys).
I prefer my laptop keyboard for speed, but from my limited experience with mechanical keyboards (friends, and ordered one recently), they feel better to play on and you don't have to hold back as much (I'm always afraid I'll break my laptop keys).
Indeed, is bad for long streams but not just that (at least in my case) I don't find a way where my arm and hand are confortables playing. Totally different to the few times I tried a mechanical kb, but maybe that's just me.GoldenWolf wrote:
Having tested a laptop keyboard I can tell it's not THAT awful, might even be easier in some aspect because the keys are flat (speed), altough it's probably worse for long streams, my accuracy doesn't change going from one to the other
It's not just you man.leyendax69 wrote:
Indeed, is bad for long streams but not just that (at least in my case) I don't find a way where my arm and hand are confortables playing. Totally different to the few times I tried a mechanical kb, but maybe that's just me.
Laptop keyboards have too little feedback which makes pressing it very very dull, I am only talking about those in general. While mechanical keyboard usually gives you that 'solid' feel and control, that's why all my FC with laptop keyboards are A's and mech kb are S's for songs that are harder to aim
But then again, my laptop keyboard has some kind of delay that is offsetting my presses after it reaches the 3rd key
ScarletStory
Well since this somehow became about keyboards I guess I'll give this one a shot too lol. Okay laptop keyboards which i had used for roughly 3-4 months until i got my mechanical keyboard are definitely more difficult to stream on. For one on most laptop keyboards they are chiclet style keys or w/e you call them so it's more difficult to get a grip on them. Also they tend to have a much higher actuation force requiring more effort to push down on keys and generally they do make playing more difficult. However i believe that anyone can get respectable playing experience using one. When i switched from my laptop keyboard to cherry mx reds to be honest i noticed no difference in my speed for the first 2 months i used it, in fact, i think i slowed down considerably because the keys are really that sensitive. Honestly i cannot go 5 words without some kind of typo and if you talked to me on osu you would probably wonder if i knew how to use a keyboard for anything other than using two buttons. Back to the matter at hand, in a general sense yes it is more difficult to use the keyboard in a laptop just because of the fact that it requires more force and there is a limit to how fast the keys will pop back up allow you to get another key press in. With that being said, however, in my experience, there was also almost no experience gained for a while after switching between keyboards which is why i say you need to build up skill to use it.Maxcimum wrote:
How about players who play osu! using laptop? Its hard to 'zxzxzx' faster because the laptop key isn't that sensitive than mechanical keyboard like Cherry MX or any good mechanical keyboard..
tl;dr version: Laptop keys require more so they are technically more difficult to use but in the end it all depends on your personal skill i believe that while they may be harder to use you can still do perfectly fine on one, however, i also believe that laptop keyboards slow the learning curve and have a much lower skill cap than cherry mx keyboards simply because cherry mx keyboards are specifically designed to be extremely fast for gaming and generally allow you to use less force while still registering keystroke while at the same time giving you good response so you know exactly when you are pressing a key.
Am I the only one who have problem with the positioning of his tablet.
Always the same.. I improve in everthing besides Aim.. and i even know the problem..
I tried to play with a skewed postioning for like two months, i ended up that my tablet was nearly vertical.
I even moved my hole room so i could play with a straight tablet postion but my arm always moves always away while playing and i start failing.
I tried like everthing wich was in my mind, i even thoght about buying me a new tablet (wich won't solve my problem so ofc i did not buy one)
I didn't improve for now like 3 months and i feel like it won't change.
Does anyone has an idea how to solve a problem like this..?
(sorry for bad english btw.)
Always the same.. I improve in everthing besides Aim.. and i even know the problem..
I tried to play with a skewed postioning for like two months, i ended up that my tablet was nearly vertical.
I even moved my hole room so i could play with a straight tablet postion but my arm always moves always away while playing and i start failing.
I tried like everthing wich was in my mind, i even thoght about buying me a new tablet (wich won't solve my problem so ofc i did not buy one)
I didn't improve for now like 3 months and i feel like it won't change.
Does anyone has an idea how to solve a problem like this..?
(sorry for bad english btw.)
Starting having problems with my mouse hand freezing, tensing up, shaking.
songs I've had no real problems with are now harder than usual, snapping to notes has proven to be very difficult as well. now i either miscalculate and fall just short of the circle or over-extend.
when i am FINALLY going well my mind go's into overdrive and i start watching unnecessary things trying to watch the TAB score board and my %Hit as well as trying to hit the notes. i end up failing of course
This is all very recent and it's very aggravating.
songs I've had no real problems with are now harder than usual, snapping to notes has proven to be very difficult as well. now i either miscalculate and fall just short of the circle or over-extend.
when i am FINALLY going well my mind go's into overdrive and i start watching unnecessary things trying to watch the TAB score board and my %Hit as well as trying to hit the notes. i end up failing of course
This is all very recent and it's very aggravating.
Go and wash you'r hands with warm water and look that you'r room isn't could or use this kind of gloves.cageslammer wrote:
Starting having problems with my mouse hand freezing, tensing up, shaking.
songs I've had no real problems with are now harder than usual, snapping to notes has proven to be very difficult as well. now i either miscalculate and fall just short of the circle or over-extend.
when i am FINALLY going well my mind go's into overdrive and i start watching unnecessary things trying to watch the TAB score board and my %Hit as well as trying to hit the notes. i end up failing of course
This is all very recent and it's very aggravating.
Helped me alot when my hands were frezing. Hope i could help you in any way.
The main big problem for me while playing osu! is that i can't press 2 keys (Z and X) At the same time , its not that i can't press them at all is that i always panic whenever i see a stream or a pile of beats that i lose my control whenever i try to smash 2 button at the same time. the only solution that i can deal with this is just to use 1 button, and its actually very painful to stream with only 1 finger . I was hoping to get some tips to help me with my 1 button smashing syndrome
I use my Index finger
I use my Index finger
Soarezi
play slow streamy maps and practice.Kritzkingvoid wrote:
The main big problem for me while playing osu! is that i can't press 2 keys (Z and X) At the same time , its not that i can't press them at all is that i always panic whenever i see a stream or a pile of beats that i lose my control whenever i try to smash 2 button at the same time. the only solution that i can deal with this is just to use 1 button, and its actually very painful to stream with only 1 finger . I was hoping to get some tips to help me with my 1 button smashing syndrome
I use my Index finger
i would totally love a pair of gloves like that regardless of weather it's cold or not, however sadly i don't think it has something to do with the temperature.goresick wrote:
Go and wash you'r hands with warm water and look that you'r room isn't could or use this kind of gloves.
Helped me alot when my hands were frezing. Hope i could help you in any way.
however i will try it. although i still don't understand why my arm freezes up like a brick even at work, watching TV, it was fine a few days ago -.-
and i can probably rule the miscalculations up to overestimating my ability of judgement.
now ima go buy me a pair of them gloves
It seems like a good article, but i can't understand it.....okay, i still go back to learn more English.
shh i like my 4k only bad habit o3o, do play 5k on occasion for fun though c:
F is for friends who do stuff together
U is for you and me
N is for anywhere and anytime at all
Down here in the deep blue sea!
U is for you and me
N is for anywhere and anytime at all
Down here in the deep blue sea!
I can play AR9 @ 190-200 BPM using the MacBook keyboard. Maybe it's just practice.Maxcimum wrote:
How about players who play osu! using laptop? Its hard to 'zxzxzx' faster because the laptop key isn't that sensitive than mechanical keyboard like Cherry MX or any good mechanical keyboard..
Everything is practise but you will defently kill your laptop keyboard by playing to long and to streamy.NeVe12p4wNeD wrote:
I can play AR9 @ 190-200 BPM using the MacBook keyboard. Maybe it's just practice.Maxcimum wrote:
How about players who play osu! using laptop? Its hard to 'zxzxzx' faster because the laptop key isn't that sensitive than mechanical keyboard like Cherry MX or any good mechanical keyboard..
Other than all the reasons listed in this thread, there's also one more,
Blaming your equipment( mouse, keyboard,etc )
Ermagawd my mouse dpi succcckksss ,
ermagawd my keyboard hazzz delay, sometimes nottt even responnndingg
lmao. (This is based on real experience. I was playing with some friends)
Blaming your equipment( mouse, keyboard,etc )
Ermagawd my mouse dpi succcckksss ,
ermagawd my keyboard hazzz delay, sometimes nottt even responnndingg
lmao. (This is based on real experience. I was playing with some friends)
Ah yeah and then he finds out that his keyboard really had delay...jovee wrote:
Other than all the reasons listed in this thread, there's also one more,
Blaming your equipment( mouse, keyboard,etc )
Ermagawd my mouse dpi succcckksss ,
ermagawd my keyboard hazzz delay, sometimes nottt even responnndingg
lmao. (This is based on real experience. I was playing with some friends)
People know that for sure that it is there own fold they just have this
kind of personality. But serious i know persons were they equipment has some kind of fault.
I mean I even personly know that. Having a good score on a song and then just near the end,
tablet show no reaction and i fail or the game is laggin.
I honestly don't understand the snapping thing for one reason... people say not to play with your hand tensed at all. If you try to snap with your hand is even slightly relaxed, then the mouse will make a small bounce in your hand after the movement and you miss the note.
Can someone explain how you are supposed to snap without holding the mouse tighter?
Can someone explain how you are supposed to snap without holding the mouse tighter?
practice and learn to snap without tensing upDustyFfy wrote:
I honestly don't understand the snapping thing for one reason... people say not to play with your hand tensed at all. If you try to snap with your hand is even slightly relaxed, then the mouse will make a small bounce in your hand after the movement and you miss the note.
Can someone explain how you are supposed to snap without holding the mouse tighter?
Apparently everything is possible with practice...GoldenWolf wrote:
practice and learn to snap without tensing up
Oh, how ignorant I am.
Read the whole topic and agree with every word. Players are getting better every time they hit the circles. The faster you have to hit - the more you need to spend time to do it. "Difficulty" is moving away from the "comfort zone" in many directions: faster speed, smaller circles, longer streams, shorter sliders, etc. When you train in these directions you are paving the bridges from one skill to another. These bridges sag to the point where you really feel confident in the game. Very often there is a feeling that you are stuck in place, and instead to quietly continue to play and have fun, you throw on unattainable for you difficulty trying to break it. If you dont have success - you get depressed, angry, and following attempts to become worse, but if you have passed this level then you will try more in this direction (not bad at all, but...), not noticing what you have not mastered in the other direction and just evade them. I made these conclusions after reading this thread and on my own experience. I have a funny problem - can play fast BPM DT maps (try them hard) but I can't normally FC much slower maps. Each FC takes a bunch of attempts and efforts, just because of a few errors in the same places-_-. Certainly worth something edit in my trainings:)
Thanks for an interesting topic guides on motivation, and I apologize for my bad English.
Thanks for an interesting topic guides on motivation, and I apologize for my bad English.
oh, so painful maps
it took about 4-5 months to get used to and the last diff takes all my stamina for a few days or even a week X_x
I try them when I'm completely fresh, if Im not fresh all plays doesn't make sense
it took about 4-5 months to get used to and the last diff takes all my stamina for a few days or even a week X_x
I try them when I'm completely fresh, if Im not fresh all plays doesn't make sense
Couldn't agree more with everything written! It's been 6+ years I'm here. I'm slowly getting back at Osu! because I flippin' love this game :3
I've been streaming on high bpm maps for a while, but my endurance was always quite low (stamina is fine). It never occurred to me that slower bpm maps could help with stability =P
Thanks for taking the time to make this topic =D
Thanks for taking the time to make this topic =D
It's very true.
http://howtoimproveatosu.tk/-Akira wrote:
I would want a Summary...
ScarletStory
You sir just made my day, thank you for the laughs. LOLCodeS wrote:
http://howtoimproveatosu.tk/-Akira wrote:
I would want a Summary...
About time someone made a thread like this.
EVEN THOUGH IT WAS MADE 3 MONTHS AGO I JUST NOTICED IT GOMEN.
EVEN THOUGH IT WAS MADE 3 MONTHS AGO I JUST NOTICED IT GOMEN.
Its gonna took awhile for me to finish this wall of text Xd generally what ur saying is really true though *thumb up*
and btw 10/10 for the MISCELLANEOUS + REASONS :>
and btw 10/10 for the MISCELLANEOUS + REASONS :>
Question to everybody do you believe accuracy is an essential skill and it is a must, there is a difference between mashing & trying here's 1 of my worst FC in terms of accuracy http://puu.sh/8RTTC.osr I will admit to mashing at the very end. I get good accuracy when a map is easy for me (map doesn't do anything for me) I get PP.
I have trouble deciphering actual difficulty to me difficulty is either to fast (leading to spam) or to awkward to aim, I just fail to folow the logic of a map being to hard because you can't score a certain accuracy star ratings suck to
I have trouble deciphering actual difficulty to me difficulty is either to fast (leading to spam) or to awkward to aim, I just fail to folow the logic of a map being to hard because you can't score a certain accuracy star ratings suck to
LOL rrtyui got SS in The Big Black, time to update the post
What would be the point of a ranking system in a RHYTHM game, if it rewards people even when they get shitty accuracy? Being good at this game, isn't simply about flailing your cursor around and mashing when prompted to, it's about being able to understand the beat and structure of the song and being able to keep up with it.Blueprint wrote:
I have trouble deciphering actual difficulty to me difficulty is either to fast (leading to spam) or to awkward to aim, I just fail to folow the logic of a map being to hard because you can't score a certain accuracy star ratings suck to
This is very true.
Me myself just play until something feels slow then step it up, I guess that's not for everyone though
Me myself just play until something feels slow then step it up, I guess that's not for everyone though
I can't really make sense of what I was trying to ask but I guess It irritates me that I can score 97+ on a map but miss with no reward yes it is a rhythm game but it's still about hitting circles
I spent around 15 minutes trying to decipher it, but I'm still not sure if I understood....Blueprint wrote:
I can't really make sense of what I was trying to ask
Didn't you contradict yourself here? Or am I not understanding your point?Blueprint wrote:
I can't really make sense of what I was trying to ask but I guess It irritates me that I can score 97+ on a map but miss with no reward yes it is a rhythm game but it's still about hitting circles
Probably I'm dumb like thatGoldenWolf wrote:
Didn't you contradict yourself here? Or am I not understanding your point?Blueprint wrote:
I can't really make sense of what I was trying to ask but I guess It irritates me that I can score 97+ on a map but miss with no reward yes it is a rhythm game but it's still about hitting circles
ScarletStory
Yes.ScarletStory wrote:
I believe a lot of people overlooked the fact that I said "on the first day they ever played osu"...lazyrifi wrote:
LOL rrtyui got SS in The Big Black, time to update the post
lol i think i'm rhythmically retarded. I score much worse using auto pilot than I do playing kb+mouse. Also, using relaxed mod, I can breeze through songs I have no hope of passing when I tap. I just suck so much at tapping, that's probably why my accuracy sucks so much too..
I'm stuck at the point of Hard <-> Insane where Hard maps are kinda slow, and Insane just...I cannot even. People will say "practice makes perfect" but I cannot practice maps I cannot even complete. Can someone help me? I don't know where to begin and after reading these tips, it just makes me realise how far I am behind instead of actually guiding me.
SanicHegehog
This is normal.theLiminator wrote:
lol i think i'm rhythmically retarded. I score much worse using auto pilot than I do playing kb+mouse. Also, using relaxed mod, I can breeze through songs I have no hope of passing when I tap. I just such so much at tapping, that's probably why my accuracy sucks so much too..
I find hard's harder than ar 8 anime insane songs I hope I helpedDahplA wrote:
I'm stuck at the point of Hard <-> Insane where Hard maps are kinda slow, and Insane just...I cannot even. People will say "practice makes perfect" but I cannot practice maps I cannot even complete. Can someone help me? I don't know where to begin and after reading these tips, it just makes me realise how far I am behind instead of actually guiding me.
There are a LOT of maps, I highly doubt all maps suit the dilemma you described...Try downloading map packs, and also try dt on easier (Hard) difficulties as they tend to make an easy insane.DahplA wrote:
I'm stuck at the point of Hard <-> Insane where Hard maps are kinda slow, and Insane just...I cannot even. People will say "practice makes perfect" but I cannot practice maps I cannot even complete. Can someone help me? I don't know where to begin and after reading these tips, it just makes me realise how far I am behind instead of actually guiding me.
D3S
Regarding snapping, what is the best way to get into a habit of snapping well. Right now I have a really bad habit of hitting edges of notes/ sliders making me lose combos.
I'm not quite sure how to fix the issue. Playing insanes only seems to make the issue worse, yet people say that playing insanes are the only way to learn snapping.
I'm not quite sure how to fix the issue. Playing insanes only seems to make the issue worse, yet people say that playing insanes are the only way to learn snapping.
My favourite game, the waiting game. (I still see myself on this game for years to come, I'll wait it out till I can pass crazy diffs)ScarletStory wrote:
MISCELLANEOUS (non-playing related) REASONS (warning may contain demoralising content)1.you should let skill come to you and you should not try to chase after skill relentlessly
But in all seriousness with the sarcasm aside, very true on all points and some points I didn't know(despite me playing for so long orz) but sadly most people don't even click on this thread since the "How do I get better?" threads still pop up.
I only started snapping around the start of this year but personally I went to hards/low ar insanes to practice so it gave me time to snap to a circle but also enough time between each circle to see where my cursor actually snapped to, thus showing me how inaccurate my aim was on top of it and then once I could snap on "slow" maps speed up and play smaller circle size.(Only personal experience though since practicing on faster insanes just made me slip into old habits and glide again within seconds)DustyFfy wrote:
Regarding snapping, what is the best way to get into a habit of snapping well. Right now I have a really bad habit of hitting edges of notes/ sliders making me lose combos.
I'm not quite sure how to fix the issue. Playing insanes only seems to make the issue worse, yet people say that playing insanes are the only way to learn snapping.
I feel guilty about almost everything. Slider not finishing, TABLET MASTER RACE Thoughts. And for a change, I used my abandoned osu!tablet. It wasn't worth it actually. It's hard to aim and do stuff. While on my mouse, which I have better experience with, I can do Fast Normals. I just can't stress everybody saying ,
OMG RRTYUI TABLET USAR IMA BUY TABLET 2 SO DAT I KEN BE NUMBER 1 AND FC BIG BLAK FOX
What actually happens after they bought the tablet
ERMEGHERD THIS PIECE OF S**T METAL DOESEN'T WORK WHAT A SCAM I HATE OSU HURR-HURR and similar stuff
I'll rate this thread for about 10/10. It's humorous, and best of all, It's the most important things all osu players must know
OMG RRTYUI TABLET USAR IMA BUY TABLET 2 SO DAT I KEN BE NUMBER 1 AND FC BIG BLAK FOX
What actually happens after they bought the tablet
ERMEGHERD THIS PIECE OF S**T METAL DOESEN'T WORK WHAT A SCAM I HATE OSU HURR-HURR and similar stuff
I'll rate this thread for about 10/10. It's humorous, and best of all, It's the most important things all osu players must know
DeletedUser_4041880
You have to stick with tablet for a while before you can catch up with your current skill level on the mouse- unless you barely played standard and you're still at the newbie level.Sonatora wrote:
I feel guilty about almost everything. Slider not finishing, TABLET MASTER RACE Thoughts. And for a change, I used my abandoned osu!tablet. It wasn't worth it actually. It's hard to aim and do stuff. While on my mouse, which I have better experience with, I can do Fast Normals. I just can't stress everybody saying ,
OMG RRTYUI TABLET USAR IMA BUY TABLET 2 SO DAT I KEN BE NUMBER 1 AND FC BIG BLAK FOX
What actually happens after they bought the tablet
ERMEGHERD THIS PIECE OF S**T METAL DOESEN'T WORK WHAT A SCAM I HATE OSU HURR-HURR and similar stuff
I'll rate this thread for about 10/10. It's humorous, and best of all, It's the most important things all osu players must know
ScarletStory
Grapheon wrote:
Edit: rrtyui actually SSed Big Black xD
Hmm i was unaware that rrtyui started playing osu! 24 days ago... I'm seriously going to have to bold underline italicize color code and smash that statement into peoples eyes aren't I?.......ScarletStory wrote:
I believe a lot of people overlooked the fact that I said "on the first day they ever played osu"...lazyrifi wrote:
LOL rrtyui got SS in The Big Black, time to update the post
Sounds like a good idea.ScarletStory wrote:
I'm seriously going to have to bold underline italicize color code and smash that statement into peoples eyes aren't I?.......
ScarletStory
I thought so too haha. At the same time, however, I'm prepared to watch as it inevitably fails to get the point across anyway.GoldenWolf wrote:
Sounds like a good idea.ScarletStory wrote:
I'm seriously going to have to bold underline italicize color code and smash that statement into peoples eyes aren't I?.......
*facepalm*This "post" was freaking hilarious and really helped me point out my own flaws, I've been "half ass snapping" to stuff like slower songs and my muscles have been tense at some harder songs aswell, I'm very new to Osu, but I feel like I've learned it pretty quickly (Mouse user, keyboard for tapping)
Thanks alot though!
edited "thread", to "post" because I have OCD about it, don't judge.
Thanks alot though!
edited "thread", to "post" because I have OCD about it, don't judge.
This thread was very helpful , Thank you for making this and putting such a great effort into it! ;3 <3
When I click on Scarlet's profile it says 'user not found'?
I still don't get how I can effectively stop myself from freezing in streams. I've also noticed that, if there is a slider at the end of a stream, I will notice it and hold the key down and miss the last 3 hits which, just like it was mentioned in the text, causes me to speed up in compensation. This makes me miss even more and causes my accuracy to go down. I would like some advice regarding streaming, but if someone says "practice" I will slap them. Can't practice something I couldn't do efficiently in the first place.
It's the whole purpose of practicing, doing something you can't do efficiently at first to then being able to do it.DahplA wrote:
but if someone says "practice" I will slap them. Can't practice something I couldn't do efficiently in the first place.
You need to practice, sorry to say it, but you need to practice to keep your calm in streams, don't panic, just relax and follow the 'beat' like you normally would. Practicing on keeping your calm will eventually lead you to not have those problems.DahplA wrote:
practice" I will slap them. Can't practice something I couldn't do efficiently in the first place.
There is NO OTHER WAY but practice.
Sure that's true, but I still think it's wrong to just dismiss any request for help with "practice, nuff said".GoldenWolf wrote:
It's the whole purpose of practicing, doing something you can't do efficiently at first to then being able to do it.
Most people here seem to forget that HOW you practice makes all the difference. When you want to be good at playing an instrument, bad inefficient practice won't get you anywhere, it'll just lead to you forming bad habits which will stop you from being able to play more advanced stuff in the long run. Even when that's not the case, smart practice makes the learning process a lot more efficient.
Of course in osu! this knowledge isn't that readily available, still it would be more helpful for people to actually answer in detail what worked for them, how they overcame such obstacles, etc. it might just help.
I for one can't do streams too well at or over 170 and I'm having problems with shorter bursts above 200-210 too, and I can't decide if my hand position is sub-optimal for streaming (you can't really play the piano well either if you're sitting way too low, too high, or too close/too far) or it's fine and it's not hindering my practice. Tried a lot of different ways, but I just can't tell if it's actually any better and I tend to go back to the usual one. Also not sure whether I should play slow streams that i can play without tensing up and bottoming out, faster ones where I can't keep up unless I tense up a bit and press harder, short ones or longer ones etc. "Practice" is very broad.
Layne_old_1
Alright, let's be clear about this. I'm going to obnoxiously bold every single statement I find are important.
It's gonna be a long and messy post (too lazy to tidy it up once I start writing this), but try to read it from my view.
The word practice as taken from a dictionary:
If we were to put it into osu!'s context, to perform or exercise your skills in osu! would mean to commit and dedicate yourself to this game for a long period of time every day to improve or maintain one's proficiency (meaning SKILL). Most of this game is muscle memory so you probably won't lose a lot of skill if you don't play for a long period of time.
Let's break it up for the serious players (because I don't cater to casuals):
Commit and Dedicate:
To Commit and Dedicate yourself to this game is definitely the first step to improvement.
You have to be in the right mindset to be able to improve.
Don't or try not to involve your emotions while playing this game, play this game like a robot.
What this means is to play every damn map you see regardless of how bad the song may sound, but make sure it's something you can somewhat manage, difficulty-wise. (And that I'll leave it up to you to check it out for yourself, so it's pretty much trial & error).
This way, you have the habit of playing whatever you see and not what you jam to. (honestly, it's a very good habit to have.. at least for LR2/IIDX since you're able to spam all 8s/9s/10s)
Not only that, you are also presented a plethora of patterns, rhythms, and different mapping styles.
Yeah, you're gonna have to get used to it, sadly.
Long period of time everyday:
Let's face it, everyone has a busy schedule.
To me, 1-2 hours isn't going to cut it if you're looking for a serious improvement!
I know that I can't say I'm right about scheduling to play osu!, but when I played this game, I spent 10-16 hours a day (during summer only) to improve in all aspects of this game.
So I would say perhaps spend a hell load of time every day (4+ hours) and keep it that way.
Though don't prioritize osu! over social life and your work ethics. But do prioritize it over free-time if you really really wish to get better.
Now the 'I can't practice because I suck at it' part.
Alright, so the first rule to approaching this is to 'repeat with variation.'
Variation meaning repeat songs that have a similar situation in patterning, perhaps lower in difficulty.
'How do I find those types of songs that are similar in difficulty?'
Good question, I don't know. So... that comes from experience and playing many songs as I remember many different patterning in most songs I play.
I usually pull it up from memory when it comes to patterns anyways.
I won't tell you strictly 'what you should practice' and 'what not to practice' because that is all up to you to find out for yourself. Try not to ask others on what map to play. There is no 'right way to play' or the 'right maps' to play. Play them all, play all the maps you can even no matter how bad it is. I will emphasize again over and over.
SO MAKE THIS A HABIT. A habit forms once you repeat a routine for 21 days+, so dedicate to a mental plan of practising!!
It's gonna be a long and messy post (too lazy to tidy it up once I start writing this), but try to read it from my view.
The word practice as taken from a dictionary:
If we were to put it into osu!'s context, to perform or exercise your skills in osu! would mean to commit and dedicate yourself to this game for a long period of time every day to improve or maintain one's proficiency (meaning SKILL). Most of this game is muscle memory so you probably won't lose a lot of skill if you don't play for a long period of time.
Let's break it up for the serious players (because I don't cater to casuals):
Commit and Dedicate:
To Commit and Dedicate yourself to this game is definitely the first step to improvement.
You have to be in the right mindset to be able to improve.
Don't or try not to involve your emotions while playing this game, play this game like a robot.
What this means is to play every damn map you see regardless of how bad the song may sound, but make sure it's something you can somewhat manage, difficulty-wise. (And that I'll leave it up to you to check it out for yourself, so it's pretty much trial & error).
This way, you have the habit of playing whatever you see and not what you jam to. (honestly, it's a very good habit to have.. at least for LR2/IIDX since you're able to spam all 8s/9s/10s)
Not only that, you are also presented a plethora of patterns, rhythms, and different mapping styles.
Yeah, you're gonna have to get used to it, sadly.
Long period of time everyday:
Let's face it, everyone has a busy schedule.
To me, 1-2 hours isn't going to cut it if you're looking for a serious improvement!
I know that I can't say I'm right about scheduling to play osu!, but when I played this game, I spent 10-16 hours a day (during summer only) to improve in all aspects of this game.
So I would say perhaps spend a hell load of time every day (4+ hours) and keep it that way.
Though don't prioritize osu! over social life and your work ethics. But do prioritize it over free-time if you really really wish to get better.
Now the 'I can't practice because I suck at it' part.
Alright, so the first rule to approaching this is to 'repeat with variation.'
Variation meaning repeat songs that have a similar situation in patterning, perhaps lower in difficulty.
'How do I find those types of songs that are similar in difficulty?'
Good question, I don't know. So... that comes from experience and playing many songs as I remember many different patterning in most songs I play.
I usually pull it up from memory when it comes to patterns anyways.
I won't tell you strictly 'what you should practice' and 'what not to practice' because that is all up to you to find out for yourself. Try not to ask others on what map to play. There is no 'right way to play' or the 'right maps' to play. Play them all, play all the maps you can even no matter how bad it is. I will emphasize again over and over.
SO MAKE THIS A HABIT. A habit forms once you repeat a routine for 21 days+, so dedicate to a mental plan of practising!!
So after realising how much of an idiot I sounded like when I wrote that, I have made a resolution to just play the maps I suck at. I will just complete the maps over and over and practicing even if I do get C-D ranks, bad accuracy and so forth. Just so playing these maps become almost natural.
banned probably.B1rd wrote:
When I click on Scarlet's profile it says 'user not found'?