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Why you aren't improving at osu! "HOW DO I GET BETTER?!?!"

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Ethelon
76 posts
Joined May 2013
Ethelon
I don't think people should generalize laptop keyboards. I'm assuming there's a difference between mine and all these other horrible ones people complain about, but if not then I don't really even see the big deal.
I prefer my laptop keyboard for speed, but from my limited experience with mechanical keyboards (friends, and ordered one recently), they feel better to play on and you don't have to hold back as much (I'm always afraid I'll break my laptop keys).
Eraqus
64 posts
Joined March 2013
Eraqus

GoldenWolf wrote:

Having tested a laptop keyboard I can tell it's not THAT awful, might even be easier in some aspect because the keys are flat (speed), altough it's probably worse for long streams, my accuracy doesn't change going from one to the other
Indeed, is bad for long streams but not just that (at least in my case) I don't find a way where my arm and hand are confortables playing. Totally different to the few times I tried a mechanical kb, but maybe that's just me.
Karuta-_old_1
947 posts
Joined November 2009
Karuta-_old_1

leyendax69 wrote:

Indeed, is bad for long streams but not just that (at least in my case) I don't find a way where my arm and hand are confortables playing. Totally different to the few times I tried a mechanical kb, but maybe that's just me.
It's not just you man.

Laptop keyboards have too little feedback which makes pressing it very very dull, I am only talking about those in general. While mechanical keyboard usually gives you that 'solid' feel and control, that's why all my FC with laptop keyboards are A's and mech kb are S's for songs that are harder to aim

But then again, my laptop keyboard has some kind of delay that is offsetting my presses after it reaches the 3rd key
ScarletStory
Topic Starter
ScarletStory

Maxcimum wrote:

How about players who play osu! using laptop? Its hard to 'zxzxzx' faster because the laptop key isn't that sensitive than mechanical keyboard like Cherry MX or any good mechanical keyboard..
Well since this somehow became about keyboards I guess I'll give this one a shot too lol. Okay laptop keyboards which i had used for roughly 3-4 months until i got my mechanical keyboard are definitely more difficult to stream on. For one on most laptop keyboards they are chiclet style keys or w/e you call them so it's more difficult to get a grip on them. Also they tend to have a much higher actuation force requiring more effort to push down on keys and generally they do make playing more difficult. However i believe that anyone can get respectable playing experience using one. When i switched from my laptop keyboard to cherry mx reds to be honest i noticed no difference in my speed for the first 2 months i used it, in fact, i think i slowed down considerably because the keys are really that sensitive. Honestly i cannot go 5 words without some kind of typo and if you talked to me on osu you would probably wonder if i knew how to use a keyboard for anything other than using two buttons. Back to the matter at hand, in a general sense yes it is more difficult to use the keyboard in a laptop just because of the fact that it requires more force and there is a limit to how fast the keys will pop back up allow you to get another key press in. With that being said, however, in my experience, there was also almost no experience gained for a while after switching between keyboards which is why i say you need to build up skill to use it.

tl;dr version: Laptop keys require more so they are technically more difficult to use but in the end it all depends on your personal skill i believe that while they may be harder to use you can still do perfectly fine on one, however, i also believe that laptop keyboards slow the learning curve and have a much lower skill cap than cherry mx keyboards simply because cherry mx keyboards are specifically designed to be extremely fast for gaming and generally allow you to use less force while still registering keystroke while at the same time giving you good response so you know exactly when you are pressing a key.
Rose Ruby
37 posts
Joined August 2013
Rose Ruby
Am I the only one who have problem with the positioning of his tablet.
Always the same.. I improve in everthing besides Aim.. and i even know the problem..
I tried to play with a skewed postioning for like two months, i ended up that my tablet was nearly vertical.
I even moved my hole room so i could play with a straight tablet postion but my arm always moves always away while playing and i start failing.

I tried like everthing wich was in my mind, i even thoght about buying me a new tablet (wich won't solve my problem so ofc i did not buy one)
I didn't improve for now like 3 months and i feel like it won't change.

Does anyone has an idea how to solve a problem like this..?

(sorry for bad english btw.)
cageslammer
7 posts
Joined October 2013
cageslammer
Starting having problems with my mouse hand freezing, tensing up, shaking.
songs I've had no real problems with are now harder than usual, snapping to notes has proven to be very difficult as well. now i either miscalculate and fall just short of the circle or over-extend.
when i am FINALLY going well my mind go's into overdrive and i start watching unnecessary things trying to watch the TAB score board and my %Hit as well as trying to hit the notes. i end up failing of course

This is all very recent and it's very aggravating.
Rose Ruby
37 posts
Joined August 2013
Rose Ruby

cageslammer wrote:

Starting having problems with my mouse hand freezing, tensing up, shaking.
songs I've had no real problems with are now harder than usual, snapping to notes has proven to be very difficult as well. now i either miscalculate and fall just short of the circle or over-extend.
when i am FINALLY going well my mind go's into overdrive and i start watching unnecessary things trying to watch the TAB score board and my %Hit as well as trying to hit the notes. i end up failing of course

This is all very recent and it's very aggravating.
Go and wash you'r hands with warm water and look that you'r room isn't could or use this kind of gloves.
Helped me alot when my hands were frezing. Hope i could help you in any way.
SPOILER
Kritzkingvoid
194 posts
Joined February 2014
Kritzkingvoid
The main big problem for me while playing osu! is that i can't press 2 keys (Z and X) At the same time , its not that i can't press them at all is that i always panic whenever i see a stream or a pile of beats that i lose my control whenever i try to smash 2 button at the same time. the only solution that i can deal with this is just to use 1 button, and its actually very painful to stream with only 1 finger . I was hoping to get some tips to help me with my 1 button smashing syndrome

I use my Index finger
Soarezi
Soarezi

Kritzkingvoid wrote:

The main big problem for me while playing osu! is that i can't press 2 keys (Z and X) At the same time , its not that i can't press them at all is that i always panic whenever i see a stream or a pile of beats that i lose my control whenever i try to smash 2 button at the same time. the only solution that i can deal with this is just to use 1 button, and its actually very painful to stream with only 1 finger . I was hoping to get some tips to help me with my 1 button smashing syndrome

I use my Index finger
play slow streamy maps and practice.
cageslammer
7 posts
Joined October 2013
cageslammer

goresick wrote:

Go and wash you'r hands with warm water and look that you'r room isn't could or use this kind of gloves.
Helped me alot when my hands were frezing. Hope i could help you in any way.
i would totally love a pair of gloves like that regardless of weather it's cold or not, however sadly i don't think it has something to do with the temperature.
however i will try it. although i still don't understand why my arm freezes up like a brick even at work, watching TV, it was fine a few days ago -.-
and i can probably rule the miscalculations up to overestimating my ability of judgement.

now ima go buy me a pair of them gloves
Lamia
1 post
Joined April 2014
Lamia
It seems like a good article, but i can't understand it.....okay, i still go back to learn more English.
ikzune
159 posts
Joined August 2013
ikzune
shh i like my 4k only bad habit o3o, do play 5k on occasion for fun though c:
Muzika
79 posts
Joined July 2013
Muzika
F is for friends who do stuff together
U is for you and me
N is for anywhere and anytime at all
Down here in the deep blue sea!
:D
NeVMiku
535 posts
Joined August 2012
NeVMiku

Maxcimum wrote:

How about players who play osu! using laptop? Its hard to 'zxzxzx' faster because the laptop key isn't that sensitive than mechanical keyboard like Cherry MX or any good mechanical keyboard..
I can play AR9 @ 190-200 BPM using the MacBook keyboard. Maybe it's just practice.
Rose Ruby
37 posts
Joined August 2013
Rose Ruby

NeVe12p4wNeD wrote:

Maxcimum wrote:

How about players who play osu! using laptop? Its hard to 'zxzxzx' faster because the laptop key isn't that sensitive than mechanical keyboard like Cherry MX or any good mechanical keyboard..
I can play AR9 @ 190-200 BPM using the MacBook keyboard. Maybe it's just practice.
Everything is practise but you will defently kill your laptop keyboard by playing to long and to streamy.
jovee_old
6 posts
Joined March 2014
jovee_old
Other than all the reasons listed in this thread, there's also one more,
Blaming your equipment( mouse, keyboard,etc )

Ermagawd my mouse dpi succcckksss ,
ermagawd my keyboard hazzz delay, sometimes nottt even responnndingg

lmao. (This is based on real experience. I was playing with some friends)
Rose Ruby
37 posts
Joined August 2013
Rose Ruby

jovee wrote:

Other than all the reasons listed in this thread, there's also one more,
Blaming your equipment( mouse, keyboard,etc )

Ermagawd my mouse dpi succcckksss ,
ermagawd my keyboard hazzz delay, sometimes nottt even responnndingg

lmao. (This is based on real experience. I was playing with some friends)
Ah yeah and then he finds out that his keyboard really had delay...
People know that for sure that it is there own fold they just have this
kind of personality. But serious i know persons were they equipment has some kind of fault.

I mean I even personly know that. Having a good score on a song and then just near the end,
tablet show no reaction and i fail or the game is laggin.
Insyni
281 posts
Joined July 2012
Insyni
I honestly don't understand the snapping thing for one reason... people say not to play with your hand tensed at all. If you try to snap with your hand is even slightly relaxed, then the mouse will make a small bounce in your hand after the movement and you miss the note.

Can someone explain how you are supposed to snap without holding the mouse tighter?
GoldenWolf
2,983 posts
Joined May 2012
GoldenWolf

DustyFfy wrote:

I honestly don't understand the snapping thing for one reason... people say not to play with your hand tensed at all. If you try to snap with your hand is even slightly relaxed, then the mouse will make a small bounce in your hand after the movement and you miss the note.

Can someone explain how you are supposed to snap without holding the mouse tighter?
practice and learn to snap without tensing up
Insyni
281 posts
Joined July 2012
Insyni

GoldenWolf wrote:

practice and learn to snap without tensing up
Apparently everything is possible with practice...

Oh, how ignorant I am. :oops:
Just_A_M0nk
5 posts
Joined December 2012
Just_A_M0nk
Read the whole topic and agree with every word. Players are getting better every time they hit the circles. The faster you have to hit - the more you need to spend time to do it. "Difficulty" is moving away from the "comfort zone" in many directions: faster speed, smaller circles, longer streams, shorter sliders, etc. When you train in these directions you are paving the bridges from one skill to another. These bridges sag to the point where you really feel confident in the game. Very often there is a feeling that you are stuck in place, and instead to quietly continue to play and have fun, you throw on unattainable for you difficulty trying to break it. If you dont have success - you get depressed, angry, and following attempts to become worse, but if you have passed this level then you will try more in this direction (not bad at all, but...), not noticing what you have not mastered in the other direction and just evade them. I made these conclusions after reading this thread and on my own experience. I have a funny problem - can play fast BPM DT maps (try them hard) but I can't normally FC much slower maps. Each FC takes a bunch of attempts and efforts, just because of a few errors in the same places-_-. Certainly worth something edit in my trainings:)
Thanks for an interesting topic guides on motivation, and I apologize for my bad English.
power007
88 posts
Joined June 2011
power007
3 years of osu!:

SPOILER

rage quit
Just_A_M0nk
5 posts
Joined December 2012
Just_A_M0nk
oh, so painful maps
SPOILER
it took about 4-5 months to get used to and the last diff takes all my stamina for a few days or even a week X_x
I try them when I'm completely fresh, if Im not fresh all plays doesn't make sense
AngelZatch
8 posts
Joined November 2008
AngelZatch
Couldn't agree more with everything written! It's been 6+ years I'm here. I'm slowly getting back at Osu! because I flippin' love this game :3
kymotsujason
38 posts
Joined April 2013
kymotsujason
I've been streaming on high bpm maps for a while, but my endurance was always quite low (stamina is fine). It never occurred to me that slower bpm maps could help with stability =P
Thanks for taking the time to make this topic =D
Sayune
71 posts
Joined February 2012
Sayune
Good "OSU!" Thread 9/10

You can kill me now.
JeremyTechnika
23 posts
Joined September 2012
JeremyTechnika
It's very true.
Mixae_old
5 posts
Joined November 2012
Mixae_old
Nice post I agree with it
-Akira_old
-Akira_old
I would want a Summary...
CodeS
1,142 posts
Joined September 2011
CodeS

-Akira wrote:

I would want a Summary...
http://howtoimproveatosu.tk/
ScarletStory
Topic Starter
ScarletStory

CodeS wrote:

-Akira wrote:

I would want a Summary...
http://howtoimproveatosu.tk/
You sir just made my day, thank you for the laughs. LOL
MMzz
Elite Mapper
3,979 posts
Joined June 2009
MMzz
About time someone made a thread like this.
EVEN THOUGH IT WAS MADE 3 MONTHS AGO I JUST NOTICED IT GOMEN.
Taadashi
230 posts
Joined January 2011
Taadashi
The truth has been unveiled. :p
Acme Deizd Void
64 posts
Joined March 2013
Acme Deizd Void
Its gonna took awhile for me to finish this wall of text Xd generally what ur saying is really true though *thumb up*

and btw 10/10 for the MISCELLANEOUS + REASONS :>
Cubex
110 posts
Joined December 2010
Cubex
How to get better at circle_clicker.exe? :^(
Blueprint
654 posts
Joined January 2014
Blueprint
Question to everybody do you believe accuracy is an essential skill and it is a must, there is a difference between mashing & trying here's 1 of my worst FC in terms of accuracy http://puu.sh/8RTTC.osr I will admit to mashing at the very end. I get good accuracy when a map is easy for me (map doesn't do anything for me) I get PP.

I have trouble deciphering actual difficulty to me difficulty is either to fast (leading to spam) or to awkward to aim, I just fail to folow the logic of a map being to hard because you can't score a certain accuracy star ratings suck to
lazyrifi
1 post
Joined April 2014
lazyrifi
LOL rrtyui got SS in The Big Black, time to update the post :)
mcdoomfrag
94 posts
Joined June 2013
mcdoomfrag

Blueprint wrote:

I have trouble deciphering actual difficulty to me difficulty is either to fast (leading to spam) or to awkward to aim, I just fail to folow the logic of a map being to hard because you can't score a certain accuracy star ratings suck to
What would be the point of a ranking system in a RHYTHM game, if it rewards people even when they get shitty accuracy? Being good at this game, isn't simply about flailing your cursor around and mashing when prompted to, it's about being able to understand the beat and structure of the song and being able to keep up with it.
Naywils
64 posts
Joined October 2013
Naywils
This is very true.
Me myself just play until something feels slow then step it up, I guess that's not for everyone though
Blueprint
654 posts
Joined January 2014
Blueprint
I can't really make sense of what I was trying to ask but I guess It irritates me that I can score 97+ on a map but miss with no reward yes it is a rhythm game but it's still about hitting circles
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