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ClariS - irony -TV Mix- [Taiko]

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Leader
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This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on lunedì 16 marzo 2015 at 22:26:16

Artist: ClariS
Title: irony -TV Mix-
Source: 俺の妹がこんなに可愛いわけがない
Tags: Ore no Imouto ga Konna ni Kawaii Wake ga nai oreimo
BPM: 134
Filesize: 3125kb
Play Time: 01:27
Difficulties Available:
  1. Futsuu (2,06 stars, 180 notes)
  2. Kantan (1,32 stars, 97 notes)
  3. Muzukashii (2,34 stars, 273 notes)
  4. Oni (3,18 stars, 401 notes)
Download: ClariS - irony -TV Mix-
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Last edited by Leader , edited 39 times in total.
Irreversible
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Irreversible
success
Lally
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Lally
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Dainesl
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Dainesl
Mod request courtesy of Leader o3o

Obvious flaws

Kantan: None
Futsuu: slider before the end of the map is unsnapped; you'll need to remake it.
Muzu: 00:12:303 (38) - unsnapped end, remake slider.
Oni: None

There needs to be a 。at the end of the source.

Suggestions

Why don't you make it TV Size instead of TV Mix? It's known as a TV Size and all the other maps regard it as such .w.

Kantan: 00:09:168 (8) - remove as it doesn't really fit at this difficulty level.
00:31:109 - add note here to fit the vocals and to provide a simple rhythm like before?
00:48:571 (3) - this note doesn't fit
00:55:736 (8) - place one beat further?
01:29:318 - end spinner here

Futsuu: simplify all 1/2 patterns at 4 notes or above, since they'll be difficult for beginners.
00:13:422 (31) - spinner like in the Kantan instead?
01:29:318 - end spinner here

Muzu: break up all 1/2 patterns above 6~8 notes in length.

Oni: some 1/4 patterns in the Kiai don't really fit, so make them two separate 1/2 notes, such as 00:59:318 (258,259,260) - .

first mod in quite a while so apologies if it was godawful
GugUCorn
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Joined October 2011
GugUCorn
from in-game requestion

[General]

  1. apply this. it need to move BG location.
    [Events]
    //Background and Video events
    0,0,"i feel guilty.png",0,90
Before see my Taiko Mod!

dong - d
kat - k
Big dong -- D
Big Kat - K


[futsuu]

  1. 00:13:422 (31) - expadn to 00:14:989
  2. 00:56:183 (12,13) - remove 13. and 12 kat
  3. 00:58:422 (18) - remove
  4. 01:00:661 (24) - ^
  5. 01:18:795 (77) - k
  6. 01:24:839 (13) - ^
[Muzu]

  1. 00:09:168 (26,27) - swap
  2. 00:09:840 (28) - d
  3. 00:16:109 (47) - remove this?
  4. 00:24:168 (80) - k
  5. 00:24:840 (83) - remove?
  6. 00:26:183 (88,90) - d k
  7. 00:38:049 (134,135) - swap
  8. 00:42:303 (148,149) - k d
  9. 00:47:004 (165) - k
  10. 00:47:900 (168) - ^
  11. 00:54:840 (12) - ^
  12. 01:01:557 (40) - remove this and move to 01:01:780
  13. 01:05:586 (55) - d
  14. 01:14:989 (94) - remvoe this.
  15. 01:18:124 (107,108) - swap
  16. 01:19:019 (110) - remove
  17. 01:18:795 (109,111) - K
  18. 01:19:691 (112) - K
  19. 01:24:504 (133) - remove this
  20. 01:24:839 (135,136) - swap
[Oni]

  1. 00:01:109 - add one rhythm as d
  2. 00:02:452 (4) - remove this
  3. 00:02:900 - and add one rhythm
  4. 00:04:691 (12,14) - k, d
  5. 00:05:586 (15,16) - swap d and k
  6. 00:06:258 (17) - k
  7. 00:08:833 (28) - remove and add here 00:08:609 as d
  8. 00:11:407 (39) - k
  9. 00:12:191 (43) - remove and add here 00:12:191 (43) as k
  10. 00:15:437 (59) - k
  11. 00:15:549 - add k
  12. 00:15:661 (60,61) - d k
  13. 00:16:109 (63,64) - swap d and k
  14. 00:24:168 (105) - k
  15. 00:24:280 - add k
  16. 00:29:318 (129,131) - k d
  17. 00:43:646 (192) - remove this
  18. 00:52:937 - add k
  19. 00:53:273 (232) - k
  20. 00:54:840 (240,242) - k d
  21. 00:56:631 (247) - k
  22. 01:05:698 - add d
  23. 01:19:467 ~ 01:20:251 - recommend this rhythm
  24. 01:20:362 (370) - change to d
  25. 01:20:810 (372) - k
oh..i can't mod kantan :o sorry for bad mod :?
i had lots of effort
Loneight
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Hi~
Request from In-game.


  • Black is just suggestion, if you don't like , you can skip it
    Blue is recommended to fix
    red is unrankable issue

[Kantan]

  1. 00:01:557 (1,4) - change to d would be better for vocal like 00:08:721 (7) -
  2. 00:38:273 (30,35,40) - change to k would be more interesting for newbie
  3. 00:46:780 (42) - move to 00:47:004 - would be better for vocal
  4. 00:49:915 (4) - shouldn't this start at 00:49:691 - ?
  5. 00:51:706 (1) - how about use D to represent there's kiai time start (the part of song which pleasant to hear start)?
  6. 00:56:407 - how about add a note for there and move 00:56:855 (9) - to 00:56:855 - like
  7. 01:08:721 (25) - change to k would be better for the vocal
just feel a little weird ;w;

[Futsuu]

  1. 00:02:452 (3) - how about remove it? make the rhythm like 00:05:586 (11,12,13) - ...etc
  2. 00:20:586 - add a k would be easier to read 00:21:034 (45,46,47) -
  3. 00:23:049 - feel weird for there, because seems it misses a note, how about make 00:22:377 (49) - end in 00:23:049 - ?
  4. 00:23:945 (51,59) - change to k would be better, only d d d make me feel a little weird ;w;
  5. 00:36:482 (8,9,1) - how about k d K? would be more interesting IMO
  6. 00:44:094 (16,17) - i think k d would be more suitable for the vocal
  7. 00:51:706 (1) - Same as Kantan
  8. 00:57:974 (16) - change to k, I feel there rhythm is same as 00:51:706 (1,2,3,5,6,7,10,11,12) - , but there is d d d
  9. 01:10:512 (50) - I think move to 01:10:288 - would be better
~

[Muzukashii]

  1. 00:03:348 (6) - it makes 00:03:124 (5,7,8,9,10) - a little weird, try to remove it to follow the vocal completely
  2. 00:29:094 (96) - seems change it to k would be more suitable for the vocal when 00:27:751 (92,93,94) - they are used k to represent the vocal
  3. 00:34:915 (121) - change to k would be better for the vocal. 01:02:900 (44) - Same as here
  4. 00:51:706 (1) - Same as Kantan
  5. 01:01:333 (39) - change to d would be better
  6. 01:07:825 (64) - feel a little weird for there, because of it, IDK what the part want to follow, try to remove it
~

[Oni]

  1. 00:01:109 (1) - I'm not sure it is no problem or not, that the first note sets before the first red line, but I still want to suggest change the first red line to -00:00:234
  2. 00:05:139 (14) - how about change it to k to follow the vocal's tone like 00:03:571 (8,10,11) - ?. 00:55:288 (243) - Same as here
  3. 00:09:168 (30) - change to k would be more suitable to follow the voacl
  4. 00:14:094 (51,52) - feel weird for there, try to remove 00:14:094 (51) - and 00:14:318 (52) - change to k, would be better for 00:14:318 (52,53,54,55,56,57,58,59,60,61,62,63) - 's rhythm
  5. 00:21:930 (95,96) - change to d d to make it be same as 00:17:452 (71,72,73,74,75) - 's rhythm, would be better IMO
  6. 00:25:959 (113) - d would be suitable for the vocal IMO
  7. 00:29:094 (127,128,129) - how about kdk? ddk make me feel a little weird for there
  8. 00:42:751 (188) - feel weird for there, try to remove it, because I think it is unnecessary if you want to make 00:41:407 (182,183,184,185,186,187) - to follow the vocal
  9. 00:47:004 (204,208) - just feel k would be suitable for the vocal, if they not follow the vocal, please ignore this
  10. 00:54:392 (238,239,240) - how about kkd? would be more suitable for the vocal. 01:15:437 (343,344,345) - Same as here
  11. 00:56:855 (249,250,251) - feel a little weird for there, try to change to dkd, would be better IMO
  12. 01:02:452 (277) - just think change it to d and 01:02:900 (279) - to k, you would find a new rhythm (run
  13. 01:05:251 - seems there miss a note, how about add k?
  14. 01:08:721 (311) - feel weird for this, change to d would be more suitable for the vocal
  15. 01:23:272 (388) - change to k to follow the electronic sound. 01:27:302 (9) - Same as here
just feel a little confused for the kiai time
that's all
good luck!
DarkDunskin
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DarkDunskin
Hi Leader, M4M like requested.

d = Don (Note)
k = Kat (Note + Clap)
D = Big Don (Note + Finish)
K = Big Kat (Note + Clap +Finish)
"->" = Change to

[Generell]
  1. When mapping Taiko Diffs please use claps for kat's instead of whistles.
  2. Set overall Vol to 80% please.
[Oni]
  1. 00:15:773 (61,62) - Delete (61), Add Finish on (62).
  2. 00:25:064 - Fill empty space with ddd Triplett -> Add Note on 00:25:064 - and on 00:25:176 -
  3. 00:51:482 (221) - D -> d.
  4. 00:51:706 (222,223,224) - ddk -> D k.
  5. 00:52:154 (224,225,226) - dkk -> ddk.
  6. 01:06:034 (295) - d -> D.
  7. 01:18:348 (357,358,359) - kkd -> D d.
  8. 01:20:251 (369,370) - Same like 00:15:773 (61,62) -
  9. 01:22:825 (381,382,383,384,385) - kkkdk -> kkddk.
  10. 01:27:527 (1) - Move Spinner to 01:27:527 (1) - Add D at 01:27:527 - instead. Don't forget to shorten the Spinner afterwards.
Other Diffs comming soon. I'm a bit tired right now. No kudosu until I finished my mod please.

[Muzukashii]
  1. 00:17:676 (52) - Move to 00:17:900 - fits better to the rythm i think.
  2. 00:24:840 (81) - Move to the next red Tick like above.
  3. 01:06:034 (57) - Add Finish.
  4. 01:23:161 (125) - Delete Note kkk k k definitly is better here.
  5. 01:25:848 (135) - Delete Note a tripplet just doesn't go well here.
  6. 01:27:527 (1) - Move Spinner to 01:27:527 (1) - Add D at 01:27:527 - instead. Don't forget to shorten the Spinner afterwards.
[Futsuu]
  1. 00:15:885 (31) - Add Finish.
  2. 00:40:512 - Add d here if you go along the lyrics
  3. 00:41:407 (8) - Remove this one instead
  4. 00:43:646 (15) - This one too while youre at it.
[Kantani]
  1. 00:15:885 (1) - Add Finish.
  2. 00:23:049 (10) - ^
  3. 00:37:377 (29) - ^
  4. 01:06:034 (22) - ^
  5. 01:27:527 (1) - Move Spinner to 01:27:527 (1) - Add D at 01:27:527 - instead. Don't forget to shorten the Spinner afterwards.
Okay in fact...that's it.
Nice map, good luck ranking it~
Leader
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Fixed almost everything, thank you guys!
BigWilly
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BigWilly
Big Fat Random Mod :D

Tip
ddk / dkk = Going into a higher pitch
kkd / kdd = Going into a lower pitch

General
01:29:318 - End Spinner here? This is where the last note finally fades away fully

Kantan
00:58:870 (13) - Change to k
01:00:661 (15) - Move to 01:00:437 (15) -
01:02:900 (18) - Remove - If you do this then move 01:03:348 (18) - to 01:03:124 -
00:29:094 (18) - Change to k

Futsuu
00:28:198 (60,61) - Move to 00:27:974 -
00:48:124 (1,2) - Reverse Colors
00:53:497 (5) - Move to 00:53:721 -
01:04:914 (33) - Change to d (Lower Vocal part)
01:09:616 (48) - Change to k (higher vocal part)
01:12:751 (56) - Change to k, to emphasise where is goes into a lower pitch
01:15:213 (63,64,65) - Swap Colors
01:17:452 (71) - Change to a k?
00:12:079 (27,28) - Reverse Colors

Muzukashii
Try not to over map

00:02:004 (2,3) - Reverse Colors
00:03:571 (6,7,8,9) - ^
00:05:586 (13,14) - ^
00:22:713 (72) - Remove? 5 dons in a row is a bit much for a Muzu (do the same at 01:26:854 (5,6,7,8) - if you choose to do this)
00:59:542 (31,32) - Reverse Colors
01:12:751 (83,84,85,86,87,88,89,90,91,92,93,94,95,96,97,98,99,100,101,102,103,104) - Very Long 'stream', I suggest adding a few breaks
01:27:527 (9) - change to k ?
00:09:840 (27,28,29) - ddk? if you like
00:11:407 (33) - Remove
00:15:885 (44) - Big Kat? (Fat Kat :P)

Oni
00:39:840 (178) - change to a k
00:42:974 (188,189,190,191) - Reverse Colors
00:25:959 (113) - Change to k
01:19:243 (362) - k
00:23:945 (103) - d
00:13:646 (49) - d
00:27:527 (120) - d?

Good Luck

btw I am looking for modders for a beatmap atm, just incase you wanna return the favour :P map - https://osu.ppy.sh/s/159366
BigWilly
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Joined October 2013
BigWilly
Decided to take another Look, (I was bored)
(no kd)

[Futsuu]

00:05:139 (10,11) - Reverse Colors
00:07:154 (14,15,16,17) - ^
00:07:377 (15,16) - Make slider finish at 00:07:377 (15,16) - ?
00:33:795 (1) - Maybe change to a k?
00:36:258 (7,8) - Reverse due to the lower pitch that follows
00:45:213 (17,18) - Reverse Colors
00:47:004 (1) - k?
00:56:855 (13,14) - Reverse Colors then move 00:57:079 (14) - to 00:57:303 - (Double sounds better here, to me)

[Muzukashii]

00:04:243 (9) - d
00:07:154 (18,19,20,21) - Reverse Colors
00:10:064 (28) - k?

[Oni]

00:10:064 (34) - d?
00:25:512 (111,112,113,114,115,116,117,118) - Reverse All
00:47:004 (203) - k?
00:33:124 (148,149,150,151) - Reverse colors, you may also want to change 00:34:019 (152) - to a k, to keep with your other patterns
00:42:974 (188,189,190,191) - Reverse? Not really sure about this, maybe try another pattern ^_^
00:44:094 (192) - k + 00:44:542 (194) - d, going into a lower pitch (kdd)
00:57:751 (252) - d?
01:12:862 (329,330) - both d. Lower pitch :P

Good Luck
Leader
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Fixed everything except two things I can't recall, thanks!
Stefan
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Stefan
[Kantan]
00:18:124 (4,5) - You could move (4) to 00:18:348 and change it into k. And (5) to 00:19:019. I don't think this will be much harder if you do that.
00:21:034 (8) - I think that huge empty part feels weird and lets too much space out to do something. Move this to 00:20:810.
00:21:258 - Following that above you could put here a d then.
00:22:601 - Same as the problem I named on 00:21:034. A k here is fine.
00:29:765 - I feel that a circle (k) is missing.
00:33:348 (26) - I would move it to 00:34:243 - because I think Drumrolls aren't a good idea imo and since I guess you perfer keeping them let at least a bit space after the Drumroll.
00:35:586 (29,30,31) - Move (29) to 00:35:362, (30) to 00:36:258 and (31) to 00:36:930. That song works a lot with 1/2 thingys and it can be used in case the Futsuu has a much higher Difficulty as Kantan (which is the case here)
00:43:198 (40,41) - swap them? sounds imo better.
00:49:243 (3) - Maybe move it to 00:49:019 ? Sounds better.
00:52:154 (2) - Personally I would let it out.
00:54:392 (5) - k? It's easier for beginner to swap with the keys and they learn it better. Also it's fine to emphasize the voice here.
01:04:243 (19) - You could move it to 01:04:019. And then add d on 01:04:467 and 01:04:915.
01:06:482 (22) - If you did the suggestion above move this back to 01:05:586. You're doing the same 1/1 break how I suggested on 00:52:154 (2) and it's better connected to the three circles previously.

[Futsuu]
00:02:004 (2,4) - k maybe? Sounds better
00:03:795 (6) - k here, it emphasize the voice here.
00:17:452 (35) - Maybe to 00:17:004 ? it feels imo easier and rhythmicer to play.
00:18:571 (39,40) - I think it's fine to move (39) one tick forward and (40) change into d. dk kd sounds very nice here and it's good playable for Futsuu.
00:21:258 (46,47) - That's up to you if you like to change that but I think (46) doesn't take part here for the rhythm. You could remove it and change the (47) circle into d because this part is a bit lower as (45) or (48).
00:24:840 (52) - This time is kinda awkward for a 1/2 double I think it sounds cleverer to move it to 00:24:392.
00:23:945 (51) - If you did that above this should be changed into d since k doesn't match up with the following double not well.
00:29:542 (64) - that 1/2 circle sounds weird imo, maybe replace it to 00:29:989 ? You also could change it into k if you like this idea.
00:34:243 (2) - I think you overuse k here a bit so better change it as d.
00:40:512 (6) - I would find d d k k d pattern here very nice :3
00:42:974 (12,13,14) - Maybe you could put a circle at 00:43:646 and change this then to dkdk?
00:46:333 (21) - Maybe you should only emphasize the voice here and let this circle out.
01:02:452 - Put a k here?
01:05:362 (34,35,36) - Swap them, STRG+G. That sounds much more logical to me.
01:05:362 (34,35,36,41) - k maybe?
01:16:333 (67) - ^
01:18:795 (75,2) - I think both do not really suit with k, use d instead.
01:25:735 (16,17) - Same what I said about 00:21:258 (46,47).

[Muzukashii]
00:17:228 (49,52,54) - How about to let them out? I think it's much better emphasized by the 1/2 notes which stay alone after removing the circles I said.
00:25:288 (80) - I think the flow pretty nice if you let this out, (79) standing alone fits better imo.
00:27:079 - 00:30:213 - Try this pattern: http://puu.sh/8wFzy/99417252e0.jpg
00:30:885 (101,102,103) - kkd shouldn't be here, that's a Taiko patter for Oni Difficulties, not Muzukashii. k triplet is fine here.
00:32:004 (107,109) - same reason as 00:25:288, plus this 1/2 pattern combo is quite long and should be splitted.
00:34:243 - 00:37:377 - similar to the suggestion at 00:27:079 - 00:30:213.
00:39:840 (136) - I don't think that 1/2 should mapped here.
00:44:989 (153,154) - Change (154) into d and remove (153), better flow.
00:46:109 (157,158) - remove (158) and change (157) to k, better flow and k sounds much better here as d.
00:53:273 (6,7,8,9,10,11) - Remove (7) and make (10) to d.
00:56:183 (17) - Remove to split that long combo.
00:59:765 (32,34) - Would remove them, again to avoid such a long combo, plus making a nice flow here.
01:03:348 (46,48) - To make a smoother 1/2 part I consider removing them.
01:05:362 (53,54,55) - Same as 00:30:885.
Leader
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Stefan

Stefan wrote:

[Kantan]
00:49:243 (3) - Maybe move it to 00:49:019 ? Sounds better. Fixed in another way
00:52:154 (2) - Personally I would let it out. That's the kiai beginning, I want something more difficult here!

[Futsuu]
00:17:452 (35) - Maybe to 00:17:004 ? it feels imo easier and rhythmicer to play.
00:29:542 (64) - that 1/2 circle sounds weird imo, maybe replace it to 00:29:989 ? You also could change it into k if you like this idea. Hell no, it sounds really bad imo
00:40:512 (6) - I would find d d k k d pattern here very nice :3 I like as it is now ;w;.. no need to change imo
00:42:974 (12,13,14) - Maybe you could put a circle at 00:43:646 and change this then to dkdk? Did something different
01:18:795 (75,2) - I think both do not really suit with k, use d instead. They actually do

[Muzukashii]
00:17:228 (49,52,54) - How about to let them out? I think it's much better emphasized by the 1/2 notes which stay alone after removing the circles I said. They sound worse to me
00:32:004 (107,109) - same reason as 00:25:288, plus this 1/2 pattern combo is quite long and should be splitted. But vocals are way too strong here
00:34:243 - 00:37:377 - similar to the suggestion at 00:27:079 - 00:30:213. Here I want to keep my pattern as it is now though

Thanks a lot!
PatZar
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PatZar
yooo mai lidarrr

[Oni]
00:06:258 (17,18) - ctrl + g
00:17:900 (72) - mini kat
00:25:288 (110) - k
00:27:527 (120,121) - ctrl + g
00:27:527 (120,121) - ctrl + g
00:44:094 (192,193) - ctrl + g
00:45:885 (198,199) - ctrl + g
00:48:571 (208) - don?
01:17:452 (353) - kat?

[Muzukashii]
00:06:258 (15,16) - ctrl + g
00:07:154 (18,19) - ctrl + g
00:25:064 (79) - k
00:27:079 (86) - d
01:00:885 (33) - d
01:02:452 (39) - d
01:03:124 (41) - k
01:07:601 (57) - d
01:08:049 (58,59) - ctrl + g and 01:08:497 (60) - mini don
01:09:616 (64) - d
01:15:213 (86,87,88) - ctrl + g

[Futsuu]
00:18:124 (37,38) - ctrl + g
01:22:601 (7,8) - ctrl + g

[Kantan]
no comment /o/

[General]
None
all good

[Other]
need 1 more oni?
Leader
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Genocide

Genocide wrote:

yooo mai lidarrr

[Oni]
00:27:527 (120,121) - ctrl + g Feels kind of inconsistent
00:48:571 (208) - don? Same as above

[Muzukashii]
00:07:154 (18,19) - ctrl + g I don't really agree
00:25:064 (79) - k Changed in another way
01:09:616 (64) - d k is consistent here
01:15:213 (86,87,88) - ctrl + g

[Futsuu]
00:18:124 (37,38) - ctrl + g Doesn't follow the instrument that next kats are following
01:22:601 (7,8) - ctrl + g ^

[Other]
need 1 more oni? I don't really see the need

Thank you and revived the mapset!
Tuxxy_old
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Tuxxy_old
catgirls are overrated

you requested a mod, so hello :3

Kantan

00:01:557 don
00:04:243 kat
00:05:139 don
00:07:825 kat
00:08:721 don
00:23:945 kat
00:28:198 kat
00:29:094 don
00:30:213 kat
00:35:362 kat
00:49:243 kat
00:53:945 kat-don instead of don-kat
01:04:019 k-k-d(finisher)
01:06:034 don finish
01:10:512 kat
01:15:885 kat

Futsuu

00:04:243 don
00:18:124 kat-don instead of don-kat
00:23:497 kat
00:25:288 kat
00:30:213 kat
00:43:646 don here? your choice
00:46:109 don
00:53:945 kat
00:54:840 kat
01:01:333 don
01:02:452 don
01:02:900 kat
01:04:019 don
01:05:139 kat
01:16:557 d-k-d-d

Muzukashii

00:04:691 kat
00:15:661 kat
00:17:900 d-k-d-d-d-k-d
00:21:482 d-k-d-d
00:22:377 d-d-k
00:23:049 don finisher
00:31:109 don
00:35:362 don
00:39:616 kat
00:40:064 don
00:57:079 don
01:00:437 don
01:05:474 don
01:07:377 don
01:08:721 don
01:11:183 d-d-k
01:18:795 don
01:19:691 don
01:22:601 http://puu.sh/aIpIF/71f345155b.jpg set out liek this
01:27:079 kat

Enjoy!!

Feel free to dispute these, as they are merely recommendations....
Leader
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Topic Starter
Leader
Tuxxy

Tuxxy wrote:

catgirls are overrated

you requested a mod, so hello :3

Kantan

00:01:557 don
00:04:243 kat
00:05:139 don
00:07:825 kat
00:08:721 don
00:23:945 kat
00:28:198 kat
00:29:094 don
00:30:213 kat
00:35:362 kat
00:49:243 kat
00:53:945 kat-don instead of don-kat
01:04:019 k-k-d(finisher)
01:06:034 don finish
01:10:512 kat
01:15:885 kat

Futsuu

00:04:243 don
00:18:124 kat-don instead of don-kat
00:23:497 kat Doesn't really fit, that's totally a d.
00:25:288 kat Would be kind of inconsistent
00:30:213 kat
00:43:646 don here? your choice
00:46:109 don k feels easier...
00:53:945 kat
00:54:840 kat
01:01:333 don
01:02:452 don
01:02:900 kat I actually changed to dk
01:04:019 don
01:05:139 kat
01:16:557 d-k-d-d

Muzukashii

00:04:691 kat
00:15:661 kat
00:17:900 d-k-d-d-d-k-d They're not following what I'm intending to do
00:21:482 d-k-d-d ^
00:22:377 d-d-k I want to keep just ddd or kkk pattern in such an easy Muzukashii
00:23:049 don finisher
00:31:109 don Same as above
00:35:362 don It has the same intensity of following notes, so keeping a k here
00:39:616 kat
00:40:064 don Same intensity, still keeping a k
00:57:079 don Already explained
01:00:437 don ^
01:05:474 don ^
01:07:377 don
01:08:721 don
01:11:183 d-d-k Changed to ddd
01:18:795 don
01:19:691 don
01:22:601 http://puu.sh/aIpIF/71f345155b.jpg set out liek this Puush not found, orz
01:27:079 kat Already explained

Enjoy!!

Feel free to dispute these, as they are merely recommendations....

I kind of remapped Kantan, so I can't recall what I changed. Thank you for mod, please post again so that you can get a kudosu (I can't kd your post because it's been too long since it has been made)
Tuxxy_old
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Joined May 2013
Tuxxy_old
Repost

SPOILER
catgirls are crap

you requested a mod, so hello :3

Kantan

00:01:557 don
00:04:243 kat
00:05:139 don
00:07:825 kat
00:08:721 don
00:23:945 kat
00:28:198 kat
00:29:094 don
00:30:213 kat
00:35:362 kat
00:49:243 kat
00:53:945 kat-don instead of don-kat
01:04:019 k-k-d(finisher)
01:06:034 don finish
01:10:512 kat
01:15:885 kat

Futsuu

00:04:243 don
00:18:124 kat-don instead of don-kat
00:23:497 kat
00:25:288 kat
00:30:213 kat
00:43:646 don here? your choice
00:46:109 don
00:53:945 kat
00:54:840 kat
01:01:333 don
01:02:452 don
01:02:900 kat
01:04:019 don
01:05:139 kat
01:16:557 d-k-d-d

Muzukashii

00:04:691 kat
00:15:661 kat
00:17:900 d-k-d-d-d-k-d
00:21:482 d-k-d-d
00:22:377 d-d-k
00:23:049 don finisher
00:31:109 don
00:35:362 don
00:39:616 kat
00:40:064 don
00:57:079 don
01:00:437 don
01:05:474 don
01:07:377 don
01:08:721 don
01:11:183 d-d-k
01:18:795 don
01:19:691 don
01:22:601 http://puu.sh/aIpIF/71f345155b.jpg set out liek this
01:27:079 kat

Enjoy!!

Feel free to dispute these, as they are merely recommendations....
Coro
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Joined September 2010
Coro
Taiko mod~
All are suggestions unless in red.

[General]
If you want to use spinners at the end of the song, I'd suggest adding a green timing point on top of them to drop their volume~ Applies to all diffs.

[Kantan]
SV can be 1.2, no issue~ I'd suggest raising it.
00:04:243 - it's a bit empty, so add a d here~ It goes well with the vocals
00:07:825 - add a d here too~
00:11:631 (7) - I'd suggest moving this to 00:11:407, it feels a little more natural to play, and might be easier to read for kantan players too, since it falls on a white timing line
00:12:079 (8) - similarly, move this to 00:12:303
00:22:601 (9) - change this to k, it's at the same pitch as 00:21:930 (8), and it'll make the transition to D easier on kantan players
00:32:900 (21) - change to k for variety? just a random suggestion
00:35:586 (24) - ^
00:46:333 (36,37,1,2,3,4,5) - - I'm not comfortable with transitioning to this rhythm all of a sudden... maybe stick to mapping to white timing points here, it's Kantan after all
01:18:348 (31,32,1) - add finish to these notes, this is a good place to put them~

[Futsuu]
00:02:676 (3,4) - hmm, if you're pitch-mapping, these two should be inverted, Ctrl+G
00:07:154 (14,15,16,17) - these too, Ctrl+G
00:09:840 (21,22) - Ctrl+G
00:54:392 (7) - this should be d according to the melody
00:54:840 (8,9,10) - ddk according to melody
00:56:855 (13,14,15,16) - Ctrl+G
01:06:482 (39,40) - Ctrl+G
01:15:213 (64,65,66) - Ctrl+G
01:17:228 (71,72) - Ctrl+G
01:26:855 (2) - not sure about a slider immediately followed by a spinner... maybe replace with d d?

[Muzukashii]
00:02:004 (2,3) - again, if pitch-mapping, these two should be inverted, Ctrl+G
00:09:168 (25,26) - ^
00:15:661 (43) - suggest moving this to 00:15:437, to leave a bit of space before the finish
00:37:377 (125) - change to K, I'm fairly certian ddD is unrankable
01:00:437 (32) - d will suit this better

[Oni]
00:04:243 (11) - d fits the pitch better
01:27:415 (11) - delete, this is definitely unrankable

keep practicing taiko mapping, Leader~
anyway, good luck for rank~
Kin
2,618 posts
Joined August 2010
Kin
Hi \o

reqs from pm ~

[Kantan]

  1. 00:11:631 (7,8) - since both are on red tick, which can be quite strange for beginner on kantan diff, I think delete 7 can be a good idea.
  2. 00:32:004 (20) - I don't realldy have a reason, but how about k ?
  3. 00:47:004 (37) - since you're following the vocal with this note, how about change it as k ?
  4. 00:46:333 (36,37,1,2,3,4,5) - this kind of pattern are too much irregular for Kantan diff, I mean, there's 3/2 + 3/2 + 1/1 + 3/2 + 1/1 (on red tick) + 1/1 (on red tick)
  5. 01:17:676 (30) - move this one 1/2 earlier ?
  6. 01:19:243 (32) - I know this note is on the vocal, but I don't feel like it's right to keep it with only the vocal to map on the part.
  7. 01:27:751 (1) - Just me, but I don't like spinner to finish a map.
[Futsuu]

  1. 00:01:557 - 00:12:303 - This whole part use a lot of 1/2, which I think make a big diff spread between this diff, and Kantan one. while Muzukashii have almost the same hit object :
    - Kantan have 9 objects
    - Futsuu have 29 objects
    - Muzukashii have 36 objects
    I'd suggest to nerf the Futsuu diff on this calm part.
  2. 00:24:616 (52) - delete this note, or add one here 00:24:616 (52) - to be consistent. Also I think delete the note is better than add one.
  3. 00:31:557 (69,70,71,72,73,74) - Just me, but I'd suggest to use only one triplet.
  4. 00:43:646 (15) - delete this note ? You used 3/2 space twice on simular pattern mapped on vocal : 00:44:989 - 00:47:228 -
  5. 01:04:915 (34,35) - Since the vocal goes down on the 1st note, I think change it as d will be better, but might feel weird with the next note, so if you fix it, I'd also suggest to delete this one 01:05:139 (35) - .
  6. 01:27:527 (1) - same as kantan, I just don't like spinner to finish map, but if you want to keep it, don't forget to finish your spinner here : 01:29:318 - .
[Muzukashii]

  1. 00:59:318 (28,29,30,31) - change it to k d d k ? I think it's better to make a difference between those 2 notes : 00:59:765 (30,31) -
  2. 01:15:661 (88) - the "i" vocal from "sekai" goes low pitched, so change it as d ?
  3. 01:16:557 (91) - kinda same reason as this one ^ ; the vocal goes down, so change it as d ?
  4. 01:18:795 (99,100,101) - I you use big note on this one, you should also use a big for this one : 01:18:348 (98) - .
  5. 01:27:527 (9) - Use a big note for the last beat ?
  6. 01:27:751 (1) - copy/paste from other diff : Just me, but I don't like spinner to finish a map.
[Oni]

  1. 00:19:915 (83,84,85,86,87,88) - Instead of kkddk k which is on the melody, I think a k ddkdk
  2. 00:22:825 (102,103) - change it to k D ? The melody goes down on 103, so a D instead of K is better.
  3. 00:32:676 (149) - change it as d to accentuate the vocal ? Also if you fix it, I think this one should be a 00:33:348 (153) - k
  4. 00:51:482 (225) - This note is not strong as the next one, so change this one as d will be better.
  5. 01:18:348 (366,367,368) - Instead of triplet here, I think a simple K here 01:18:348 (366) - .
  6. 01:25:064 (407) - This note is simular to this one 01:24:839 (406) - ; so change it as k ?
  7. 01:27:527 (12) - a dD is unrankable, to make it rankable, you should delete the d, or use a kD.
  8. 01:27:751 (1) - copy/paste from other diff : Just me, but I don't like spinner to finish a map.
that all from me \o
good luck ~
Leader
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Topic Starter
Leader
Fixed most of the things pointed out, thanks.
Stefan
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Stefan
IRC Log
17:53 Leader: oioi
17:54 Stefan: oioi
17:55 Leader: when will we do irc
17:55 Stefan: how about now
17:55 Leader: yay
17:58 Stefan: so
17:58 Stefan: let us start
17:58 Stefan: the first thing I want to check before I go in detail is the spread
18:00 Leader: is that wrong
18:00 Leader: because i tried to keep
18:00 Leader: 100 notes difference
18:00 Leader: between diffs
18:00 Leader: and mmm stars are okay but I don't know how much they are useful for this
18:00 Stefan: Star rating isn't the issue
18:00 Stefan: unless you skin an icon
18:01 Stefan: But there should be a good gap if you jump from Difficulty to Difficulty.
18:03 Stefan: so currently it's quite high
18:04 Leader: oh
18:04 Stefan: While Muzukashii provides some Triplets (four or five) Oni use ddkdkkd
18:04 Stefan: or kkddkdk
18:04 Stefan: that isn't a good transistion
18:05 Stefan: because players will be - for sure - overrun by this
18:05 Stefan: I am kinda divided about the Oni tho
18:06 Stefan: Some parts looks fine compared with Muzukashii while others aren't.
18:06 Stefan: And imo I'd suggest to nerf Oni for a bit
18:06 Stefan: Else a 5th Difficulty (between Muzukashii and the current Oni) would be needed
18:09 Leader: nerf Oni?
18:09 Leader: mmm
18:09 Leader: that could be done
18:09 Stefan: Let me point out what would you need to make easier:
18:10 Stefan: 00:51:706 - 01:17:452 - there is not a single 1/1 break here. I understand the intention of mapping... continous? idk the corret word
18:11 Stefan: anyway, having small breaks sometimes really won't hurt but cause a huge effect in the gap
18:11 Stefan: Because this kind of mapping is more used in harder Difficulties - such as Inner Oni.
18:11 Leader: But I feel like kiai deserves to be like this
18:11 Leader: ;_;
18:11 Leader: it floooows
18:12 Stefan: I know
18:12 Stefan: and I understood why you decided to map like that
18:12 Stefan: but it's causing this problem :P
18:15 Stefan: 01:00:213 - 01:06:258 - 00:53:497 - 01:10:512 - 01:15:885 - 01:02:676 -
18:16 Stefan: These notes could be removed since you work a lot with the vocals here and make the short breaks in the singing useful for small 1/1 breaks
18:17 Leader: mmm
18:17 Leader: sure
18:21 Stefan: let me know when you're done
18:22 Leader: oh updating
18:22 Stefan: ayyy
18:22 Leader: done
18:23 Stefan: Set the SV to 1.40 (in Oni)
18:23 Stefan: 1.60x is used for low BPM
18:23 Leader: isn't 134 bpm low?
18:23 Leader: especially for taiko
18:23 Leader: lool
18:23 Leader: you guys can stream up to 300bpm
18:24 Stefan: 120-110 would be
18:24 Stefan: and everything below
18:24 Leader: o
18:24 Stefan: however, people still use 1.40x for 130 BPM songs
18:25 Leader: kk
18:25 Stefan: it's more or less a rule to use it in this way.
18:25 Leader: didn't know
18:25 Leader: :0
18:25 Stefan: 01:27:527 (12) - unrankable Finisher note
18:26 Stefan: Either remove the previous note or remove the Finisher here.
18:26 Leader: 01:27:527 (12) - a dD is unrankable, to make it rankable, you should delete the d, or use a kD.
18:27 Leader: from previous mods
18:27 Leader: that sounds weird
18:27 Leader: I thought I couldn't make dD so i did dK because it felt better to me
18:28 Stefan: wait
18:28 Leader: deleted (11) btw, better have a K or a D at the end, in your opinion?
18:28 Stefan: let me quick ask something in #taiko
18:29 Leader: it's not a big problem to me, i was just wondering
18:29 Stefan: t/251894/start=0
18:29 Stefan: since this is bubbled and going to be changed I better ask first
18:29 Stefan: because basically dK is fine
18:29 Stefan: but it's not dk here but kdddkdkdK
18:30 Leader: oh ok!
18:30 Stefan: let's say removing 01:27:302 (10) - makes it rankable
18:30 Stefan: but that sounds awkward as shit
18:31 Stefan: oh and meanwhile you want to resnap all notes
18:31 Stefan: found some which are unsnapped for 1ms
18:31 Leader: then last three notes are going to be
18:31 Leader: kkD
18:31 Stefan: yeah
18:31 Stefan: that works
18:32 Stefan: or do you mean to change it as kdddkdkkD?
18:32 Stefan: because
18:33 Stefan: I honestly would perfer ddkkd kkD here
18:33 Leader: I wanted to do first one
18:35 Stefan: We leave this open until I get confirmation by someone
18:35 Stefan: because #taiko can't do shit atm
18:35 Leader: mhm
18:35 Leader: your pattern works too
18:35 Stefan: oh
18:35 Stefan: well then :3c
18:40 Stefan: anywy
18:40 Stefan: brb
18:41 Leader: kk
18:50 Stefan: ok
18:50 Stefan: uh
18:50 Stefan: 1.30x?
18:50 Leader: I was updating
18:50 Leader: ...eh
18:51 Leader: silly mistake
18:51 Leader: fixd
18:53 Stefan: Hmm that looks much better now
18:53 Stefan: So let us start with the actual IRC Mod
18:53 Stefan: hue
18:54 Leader: I might disappear
18:54 Leader: in 10 minutes
18:54 Leader: because dinner
18:54 Stefan: aye
18:54 Stefan: okay then
18:54 Stefan: I just throw the stuff here I find
18:55 Stefan: 00:08:049 (24,25,26,27,28) - idk what exactly are you following with the triplet
18:56 Stefan: but kdk d k sounds better to me
18:56 Stefan: because of the violine (?) sound at 00:08:049 - 00:08:273 -
18:57 Leader: yeah, you're right
18:58 Stefan: 00:09:616 (32) - music and pattern have a better impact without this note
18:59 Leader: deleted
18:59 Stefan: 00:10:736 (36,37,38,39) - same about (39) like abov
18:59 Stefan: and (37,38) should be switched
19:00 Stefan: because the vocal is stronger on (38)'s position than (37)'s
19:02 Leader: okk
19:06 Stefan: 00:22:377 (98,99,100,101,102) - kkddk?
19:06 Stefan: again due violine sound at 00:22:377 - 00:22:489 -
19:08 Leader: then ok
19:08 Stefan: 00:32:452 (147,148,149,150,151) - I guess dkkkd is more the pattern you want to follow
19:09 Stefan: 00:35:586 (163) - imo I'd leave this note out
19:09 Stefan: the vocals makes it really unfitting imo
19:10 Leader: done
19:12 Stefan: 01:24:168 (395) - Maybe another break here?
19:13 Leader: naaaah
19:13 Leader: leaving the end like this, without relevant breaks
19:13 Stefan: Okay.
19:13 Stefan: rhythm wise there is nothing wrong here
19:14 Stefan: Also it looks much better now with the gap between Oni and Muzukashii
19:14 Stefan: So uh.. are you going for dinner now?
19:14 Stefan: Or can I go to Muzu now
19:14 Leader: yes ww
19:15 Stefan: Alright
19:15 Stefan: let me know when you are back
19:36 Leader: back
19:36 Stefan: alright
19:36 Stefan: finishing my stuff here I've started
19:36 Stefan: then coming back to the mod
19:38 Leader: ok!
19:57 Stefan: ayy http://puu.sh/gw66e/585968ecfe.jpg good that it went so fast
19:57 Stefan: okay, back to your map
19:57 Leader: GEWONNEN
19:57 Stefan: pls
19:57 Stefan: leave my german client alone :c
19:57 *Stefan is editing [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/343319 ClariS - irony -TV Mix- [Muzukashii]]
20:04 Stefan: 01:25:959 (1,2) - remove (2) and make (1) to d
20:05 Leader: ok
20:06 Stefan: 00:20:810 (62,64,65) - since this part here is the same like above - and the above sounds to me better - I'd remove (62) and move (65) to 00:21:258 - . Then swap this note with 00:21:482 (64) -
20:06 Stefan: http://puu.sh/gw6OW/350196a95b.jpg
20:07 Leader: aaa that was hard
20:07 Leader: okay
20:07 Leader: (hard to understand)
20:08 Stefan: sorry
20:08 Stefan: my english not su god :-}
20:09 Stefan: 00:32:228 (105) - since that combo pattern is damn long I'd suggest breaking it into two parts
20:09 Stefan: in short: remove that one
20:10 Leader: sure
20:15 Stefan: Hmm
20:15 Stefan: Another issue I detect in Muzukashii and Futsuu is the lack on break times
20:16 Stefan: Kantan is... let me see
20:16 Leader: same as Oni?
20:16 Stefan: Hmm not exactly.
20:16 Stefan: in Oni it was because of the Difficulty
20:17 Stefan: here we require some since the lower Difficulties works more as "Tutorial" Difficulties
20:17 Stefan: more or less
20:17 Leader: I see
20:17 Stefan: even Muzukashii which should introduce Triplets and longer pattern.
20:18 Stefan: Kantan seems extremely repetitive in the non-kiai section
20:18 Stefan: anyway, back to Muzukashii, we should try to build some brighter breaks
20:18 Stefan: (which doesn't mean we will nerf it
20:19 Leader: alright
20:27 Stefan: 00:03:571 - 00:07:154 - 00:10:064 - 00:16:333 - 00:16:557 - 00:17:004 - 00:18:571 - 00:20:810 - 00:23:721 - 00:25:288 - 00:32:452 - 00:34:691 - 00:36:482 - 00:37:825 - 00:38:721 - 00:41:407 - 00:42:079 - 00:44:765 - 00:47:452 - 00:49:019 -
20:27 Leader: whoa lol
20:28 Stefan: These notes can easily be removed since they either doesn't really fit to the concept you're mapping (switching from vocal to instrument and opposite) or are simply not required for the gameplay
20:29 Stefan: You probably find all these notes important tho
20:30 Stefan: since they overlay beats
20:30 Leader: well.. kind of
20:30 Stefan: either vocals or background music.
20:30 Leader: the map seems weird now
20:30 Stefan: but the "secret" in having a good Muzukashii is to emphasize the most important things
20:31 Stefan: Oni is the level where you can take most part of freedom to map by your style or the actual song
20:32 Stefan: the difficulties below cannot work this way, unfortunately
20:32 Leader: now seems easier though
20:32 Leader: I always thought it was weird
20:32 Leader: especially for one (me) who can't stand anything above muzu
20:32 Leader: kk deleted
20:32 Stefan: Many people skip Kantan in most cases
20:32 Stefan: because they're too easy
20:33 Stefan: as well that often happens to Futsuu and they immediately start with Muzukashiis
20:33 Stefan: but the difficulty behind Muzukashii are -) longer pattern with more complex pattern.
20:34 Stefan: d d k k d ... is pretty easy to follow while d k d d k d k d d k wouldn't be
20:34 Stefan: (ofc I am talking about 1/2 rhythm)
20:34 Stefan: and people need by this way breaks to.. well uh
20:35 Stefan: hard to explain in english.. just to get their concentration back for the next parts
20:35 Stefan: it seems weird to you since it's a piece of cake for you to play the difficulty now
20:36 Leader: yeah got it
20:36 Stefan: /endofwalloftext
20:36 Stefan: lol
20:36 Stefan: Anyway, also the Kiai needs some more breaks
20:36 Stefan: but might having less than the non-kiai
20:38 Leader: ohh
20:41 Stefan: 00:52:601 - 00:55:736 - 00:59:765 - 01:02:900 - 01:06:930 - 01:10:064 - 01:10:512 - 01:14:094 - 01:17:004 - 01:13:646 - 01:20:586 - 01:24:616 - 01:25:736 - 01:26:183 -
20:42 Stefan: 01:22:153 (101,102) - how about to remove (102) and move (101) to the next red tick?
20:44 Leader: 01:02:900 (38,39) - keeping patterns like this
20:45 Leader: and the second one
20:45 Leader: (still doing..)
20:45 Stefan: sure.
20:48 Leader: update
20:48 Leader: I guess
20:51 Stefan: that looks quite good now
20:51 Stefan: Alright, let's go to Futsuu
20:52 Stefan: similar like in Muzukashii you also need here more breaks.
20:52 Stefan: going to post some of the notes you can remove
20:55 Stefan: 00:04:691 - 00:08:273 - 00:17:676 - 00:18:124 - 00:21:482 -
20:56 Stefan: 00:24:840 (44,45) - I kinda feel I suggested something in the past for them...
20:56 Stefan: let me check
20:57 Stefan: k never mind
20:57 Stefan: 00:24:840 (49,50) - move (49) to 00:24:616 - and 00:25:288 (50) - to 00:25:512 -
21:01 Stefan: 00:31:557 (65,66) - move both one tick back (to be consistent with the suggestion above) and remove 00:32:452 (67) -
21:01 Leader: alrighttt
21:09 Stefan: 00:36:482 - should also be removed.
21:09 Stefan: 00:40:512 (6) - k maybe?
21:09 Leader: Yeah
21:10 Stefan: 00:47:004 - a k note mabe?
21:10 Stefan: *Maybe
21:10 Stefan: 00:49:019 (3,4) - move both one tick back
21:11 Leader: ok to the second one
21:11 Stefan: 00:51:706 - 00:55:288 - http://puu.sh/gwcoq/6512331f10.jpg
21:12 Stefan: Seems appropriate since it overlay the vocals mostly and still leaving time to have a break
21:12 Leader: okay!
21:14 Stefan: 00:55:288 - 00:58:870 - do the same here again
21:14 Leader: same pattern?
21:14 Stefan: Yeah
21:14 Stefan: except hitsounds
21:15 Leader: ok
21:15 Stefan: 01:02:900 - 01:04:467 - 01:05:139 - should be removed
21:16 Stefan: 01:06:034 - 01:09:616 - and 01:09:616 - 01:13:198 - again like the first half :P
21:20 Leader: 00:51:706 - like this?
21:23 Stefan: aaaaaaa
21:23 Stefan: woops
21:23 Stefan: yes
21:25 Leader: done
21:25 Stefan: Okay
21:25 Stefan: Update it
21:25 Stefan: would like to see how it looks so far.
21:26 Leader: aaaand done
21:26 Stefan: lmao
21:26 Stefan: it's harder now, according to SR
21:27 Leader: ...lol
21:27 Stefan: Anyway
21:27 Stefan: is there any chance to use a better background?
21:27 Leader: NAAAAH
21:27 Leader: don't tell me that this is inappropriate
21:27 Stefan: but.. http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/2876875
21:27 Stefan: the gurl is cut off :c
21:28 Stefan: tho people with a fetish for backs might be happy
21:28 Leader: oh snap
21:28 Stefan: it isn't inappropriate btw
21:28 Stefan: but.. quite crap for taiko mode
21:30 Leader: mmm i'll look then
21:32 Leader: go on with kantan if you want to
21:32 Leader: 'o'
21:32 Leader: brb
21:33 Stefan: ok
21:42 Stefan: uh
21:42 Stefan: In Futsuu: 00:32:004 (61) - move it to 00:31:780 -
21:43 Stefan: 01:20:362 - 01:27:527 - hold it similar/the same like 00:15:885 - 00:23:049 -
21:46 Leader: mhh
21:46 Leader: done
21:46 Leader: and back
21:49 Stefan: 01:16:109 - 01:16:557 - could also be removed
21:50 Stefan: NOW I am fine with Futsuu.
21:50 Leader: yaaaaaaaaay
21:53 Leader: I can't find a cool bg
21:55 Stefan: orz
21:55 Stefan: know this feeling
21:55 Stefan: it is not unrankable tho
21:56 Leader: then I'll keep it
21:56 Leader: (for now..)
21:56 Leader: keep looking while you mod kantan
21:57 Stefan: yup
21:57 Stefan: oh right
21:57 Stefan: change the SV in Kantan and Futsuu to 1.40
22:01 Leader: oook
22:01 Stefan: 00:24:840 (12) - move it one tick back
22:02 Leader: red?
22:02 Stefan: Yes
22:02 Leader: assuming we are using 1/2 layout
22:02 Leader: ok
22:02 Stefan: 00:32:004 (20) - same here
22:02 Stefan: to be consistent
22:04 Stefan: Actually you could redo 00:23:049 - 00:37:377 -
22:04 Stefan: since it's extremely repetitive and Hitsounds could be used more efficient
22:06 Stefan: 00:23:049 - 00:30:213 - http://puu.sh/gwhez/650b81e9b6.jpg
22:09 Leader: done and trying to change second part
22:09 Stefan: ok
22:11 Leader: updated
22:11 Leader: 'o' go check
22:24 Stefan: ok
22:25 Stefan: sorry
22:25 Stefan: was talking in #lounge about stuff
22:26 Stefan: 00:38:273 (29) - remove
22:26 Stefan: 00:41:855 (33) - move it to 00:40:512 -
22:27 Leader: done and done
22:27 Stefan: 00:45:437 (37,1) - also remove them
22:28 Stefan: 00:49:691 (5) - personally I'd replace it with a spinner
22:28 Stefan: or make it at least longer
22:28 Stefan: until 00:50:810 -
22:32 Leader: 00:51:706 (1) - can you tell me what do you have here
22:33 Leader: in kantan
22:33 Stefan: D
22:34 Leader: thanksss
22:43 Stefan: 00:52:601 (2) - is probably not needed
22:43 Stefan: and can be removed
22:43 Leader: ook
22:49 Stefan: oh god
22:49 Stefan: sorry
22:49 Stefan: yeah
22:49 Stefan: back to mod
22:49 Stefan: 00:59:765 (9) - that one too
22:50 Stefan: 01:06:930 (16) -
22:50 Stefan: 01:14:094 (24) -
22:51 Leader: ook
22:51 Stefan: talking with #german about sleep cycle
22:52 Stefan: gr8
22:53 Stefan: 01:04:243 (15,16) - should be moved to the white ticks
22:53 Stefan: http://puu.sh/gwlvO/3af9dd7b5a.jpg
22:56 Leader: done
23:01 Stefan: 00:22:601 (9) - should also be removed
23:01 Stefan: since you don't have this note at the end
23:01 Stefan: and it's also the only difference
23:02 Stefan: 01:17:452 (29) - aaaaaaaand
23:02 Stefan: this one should also be gone
23:02 Stefan: after then
23:02 Stefan: update
23:03 Leader: asgdag
23:03 Leader: done
23:04 Leader: that was long
23:09 Stefan: Hmkay
23:09 Stefan: let me play the whole set
23:12 Leader: lmao i crashed
23:12 Stefan: rip
23:19 Stefan: So
23:19 Stefan: the thing is the gap is still a bit big between Kantan and Futsuu
23:20 Stefan: and if you don't mind
23:20 Stefan: I'd like to call some people to check this out
23:20 Leader: okay
23:20 Stefan: Alright

Going to get some more opinions for the Kantan/Futsuu gap.
Dainesl
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K-F gap opinions 'cause why not (stefan wanted me to, and no KD for this please!)

My view is that maybe the Kantan should have a couple more notes sprinkled around. Not really between the bigger gaps, just a couple more 1/1 patterns, because the Futsuu has lots of basic 1/2s whereas the Kantan has barely any basic 1/1 by comparison, and the Muzukashii has more complex 1/2s and basic 1/4s, with less breaks. This makes the spread from F-M-O seem normal but the K-F a bit more significant, but the thing is, there are 3/2 notes so it's a bit weird, so perhaps take little steps.

Add a couple of 1/1s at places like 00:26:183 - and 01:05:586 - (but take caution because of the 3/2 notes as mentioned before). Baby steps will likely take us there in the end. If this suggestion doesn't work well for the spread, then we can try something else without having to radically change the map, and we can hone in on what the ideal factor for spread is. Then again, that's just me.

also you are still missing a perfectly acceptable note on a downbeat in the Futsuu at 23.049, please fix this thanks
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Just in case you haven't seen yet: p/3955663

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Updated!
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let's give it a try, made some small changes in Kantan~Muzukashii

Chatlog
15:38 *Leader is editing [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/343318 ClariS - irony -TV Mix- [Kantan]]
15:38 Leader: stuff fixed
15:39 Stefan: Alright.
15:39 Stefan: just let me waste something
16:17 Stefan: k
16:18 Leader: ovo
16:22 *Stefan is editing [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/343318 ClariS - irony -TV Mix- [Kantan]]
16:22 Stefan: let's see
16:30 Stefan: 01:03:124 (14) - I find that this could also stay on 1/1 (01:03:348 - ) and working as good as the current position and being easier.
16:31 Leader: okk
16:33 Stefan: 01:07:825 (19) - what about to move it 1/2 tick before?
16:33 Leader: yeah
16:33 Stefan: looks clear enough what you are following
16:38 Stefan: 01:10:512 (22,23) - http://puu.sh/gBktI/e4ae17def6.jpg
16:39 Stefan: (22) one tick forward while (23) one back.
16:39 Leader: kk
16:39 Stefan: 01:14:765 (27,28) - also here they should be moved one 1/2 tick back.
16:40 Stefan: Kiai Part is otherwise fine here.
16:40 Stefan: at least I have no idea what to change.
16:40 Leader: ook
16:42 Stefan: Kantan/Futsuu: 00:13:422 - don't you want to make this consistent here?
16:42 Stefan: Use the same lenght and either use Spinner or Drum slider for both.
16:43 Leader: used spinner
16:43 Stefan: Alright.
16:45 *Stefan is editing [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/343317 ClariS - irony -TV Mix- [Futsuu]]
16:45 Stefan: 01:02:004 - k here works pretty good
16:46 Stefan: also it doesn't feels so odd here with a note
16:50 Leader: oh, added
16:58 Stefan: I might be afk for another 10-15 minutes
16:58 Stefan: sorry :c
16:58 Leader: dw
17:43 Stefan: oi
17:43 Stefan: took longer than tought
17:44 Leader: :v
17:48 Leader: gonna go afk for a sec
17:48 Leader: but write things down here
17:48 Leader: i'll fix when I come back
17:48 Stefan: sure
17:55 Stefan: Maybe 01:00:885 - could be removed
17:55 Stefan: since qoot mentioned the 1/2 mapping feels hard the removal could fix this.
17:57 Stefan: Well
17:57 Stefan: I guess that's it.
17:58 Stefan: hmm wait
17:59 Stefan: in Muzukashii: 00:04:019 - 00:07:601 - 00:10:736 - 00:15:437 - 
18:00 Stefan: remove them since it's a calmer version of the Kiai
18:00 Stefan: and should also have less notes at all.
18:18 Leader: fixed and updated
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Don't get confused, I'm starting with a timestamp instead of diff because it's more about comparing than the single diffs.

[INTRO - 00:15:885 - ]

Difference between Futsuu and Kantan is quite big. Futsuu: Would recommend to delete 00:03:571 (5) - 00:07:154 (12) - 00:12:079 (22) - . They also aren't there in Muzu so it's even better reason.
Since Muzu - Oni difference is big and Futsuu - Muzu is not as big, making Oni a bit easier is good idea. Oni: 00:03:348 (7) - Delete this, 00:08:049 (24,25) - these, 00:08:945 (27) - this and maybe 00:12:527 (43) -

[Kantan]

00:12:079 (9) - Delete and add 00:11:855 - 00:12:303 - instead to have a more clear rhythm and consistency with other diffs (3/2 note, the 1/1 is for buildup cause 1/2 wouldn't work well).
00:49:691 (1) - Extend spinner by 1/1

[Muzukashii]

Try to find at least one spot that can be turned into larger (2/1) breaks. Suggestion: 00:38:049 (109) - 00:41:631 (117) -

00:12:303 (30) - Replace with notes at the beginning and end of the slider. I don't even understand its purpose ;w;
00:42:079 - Could have an added don/kat while 00:41:855 (118,119) - change colors to k d (two/hree consecutive dons for pitch)
00:53:049 - 01:00:213 - Add notes for consistency with 01:07:377 (53) - etc.


Also below you see that I complain about spread to Oni sooo 00:15:661 - add kat, 00:19:691 - add don, 01:24:616 - add don (01:25:064 (115) - change to kat)

[Oni]

Note difference between Muzu and Oni is big. Not a real problem in itself since spread flows pretty well from Kantan upwards (in big steps but that's also spread), but there's spot where it difference is too big. 00:17:564 (68,69) - delete,
00:20:027 (82) - ^(the triplet should give same feeling),
00:26:855 (118) - ^,
00:34:019 (154) - ^,
00:37:601 (171) - ^ (00:44:765 - is brek),
00:50:698 (217,219,220) - ^ (Muzu is spinner. 00:51:370 - Could add a kat here tho),
00:58:086 (254,255) - ^ (to emphasis phrase end),
01:12:527 (326) - ^ (01:10:512 - add don here)

01:06:594 (297) - Change to don, fits vocal pitch wobble whatever it's called better
01:07:377 (302) - Change to don as well
01:18:348 (354,355,356,357,358,359) - I don't like this at all. It feels like you ignored the song here, would prefer if it's more similar to how you've mappet it in Muzukashii since the song is not straightforward here, it makes a break kinda
01:27:415 (10) - Delete this to free up the big don at the end. There's no note here so there's no legit reason to have kkD



think that's it. Might want to reconsider changing to a safer bg idk
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