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Blaziken
How to jungle:
Play Warwick.
Be placed against people better than you all the time.
Not know how to jungle.

tyrael6192 wrote:

/mute all
Run into a lane and ult the enemy.
Run the fuck away because you just went into a 2v1.
Win the match
Build a feral flare until the nerfs get here. After that, I don't know.

Side note

You need a connection which looks like this for this to work.
Vulf
The current FF nerf is going to hurt Warwick more than the others because he is slower at clearing. Which makes me think they are going to nerf this item a lot more. Yi and Xin are beyond obnoxious when they get this item and they fly through the jungle incredibly fast so the stack transformation increase nerf does little to them.

I don't get why or how people are getting away with sitting in the jungle until this item is stacked. I see this in diamond and challenger games. Warwick is incredibly vulnerable early game as is Yi so you can very easily push them out and steal their buffs and camps which hurts them a lot. Only exception here is Xin and Shaco who have ridiculous early games. I guess people forgot that counter jungling actually hurts a lot of these junglers. God forbid Shyvana and Udyr make a come back. Those two were a living nightmare for me as Warwick back in season 2.
BrokenArrow

Vulf wrote:

I don't get why or how people are getting away with sitting in the jungle until this item is stacked.
That's why I think FF doesn't need further nerfs than already on PBE. Sure it's still strong, but you can punish people using it pretty hard. Even more nerfs will just result in less variety in the jungle and we'll only see Lee/Kha/Elilse/Pantheon/Vi etc. again, which is pretty boring to be honest. As you could see in the Challenger Series, if your team makes sure to pressure the enemy jungler early there isn't much he can do.
Vulf
People don't want to adapt so Riot nerfs shit into oblivion for them. I wouldn't be surprised if some juglers end up getting nerfed because all the lee sin mains are mad they aren't miles above the other junglers anymore. Sadly they are too bad to realize that Lee can just go into their jungle at level 2 and kill both Yi and Warwick. LOL

Honestly the item is a little too strong for the stats it gives. 1650 gold that gives you stats equivalent to botrk and wits end. If I was going to touch the stats I would nerf the on hit heal and have the damage reduction apply to baron like it does to champions. These are by far the most 2 complained things I've seen on both reddit and league forums. Baron should not be soloable by anyone the second it spawns.

I think FF needs to be moved more towards a late-mid game item because it already boils down to the jungler who is ahead with this item will almost always win which is kind of a problem. This is why stuff like BT and Mejais lose stacks on death.
BrokenArrow

Vulf wrote:

People don't want to adapt so Riot nerfs shit into oblivion for them. .
But Riot most of the time balances the game around competetive play, so we're gonna see what effect this item has during the playoffs/allstars.
I agree with the damage reduction point you mentioned, that's gonna make the item a lot more balanced when it comes to those objectives.
Vulf
I think we will see a ton of Xin with Feral Flare in competitive play. He has the least counterplay out of all the junglers that use it.

They do nerf when it comes to solo queue, but it mostly caters to bronze players. See previous Yi, Akali, and Darius nerfs. For the most part though they do nerf for the pro scene, so if your favorite champion is dominating at the LCS you should be concerned for their future.
Miyu
5 won 5 lost got placed into bronze 3 =/ now im trying to get higher then bronze because..obvious reasons,heres my last games after my promotion..luckly there was no trolls! couldn't be more thankful for that lol

TKiller
Oh my god, why am I not jungling Aatrox every single game, I forgot he exists at all.
BrokenArrow
Bought Shyvana today because I got completely stomped by a jungle Shyv as Yi yesterday. Wasn't pretty at all, her early dueling power is damn high.
Results will follow tomorrow.
P r o m i s e s
I had a jungle Shyvana in my team today who refused to take smite because she said that she wouldn't need it... She also refused to build tanky and proceeded to buy a Bloodthister, phantom dancer, statikk shiv and berserker greaves :/. Also, like 3 dragon's got stolen away from us because we had no jungler with smite.
This person played terrible and according to that person he/she was trying his/her best, lol.
I'm never gonna get out Silver 2 if I'm gonna continue having teams like this.
VoidnOwO
:)
Vulf
Did everyone forget how horrifying jungle Shyvana was in season 2? I kinda don't want that to come back.
Elicchi_old

Vulf wrote:

Did everyone forget how horrifying jungle Shyvana was in season 2? I kinda don't want that to come back.
I know that feel. jungle Shyvana with exhaust. it's so frustrating to play against.
Seph
RIP U.R.F.

I never liked you anyway :D
Navizel
It was fun at the start. Just like any other things that became popular.
Justykanna

Vulf wrote:

I think we will see a ton of Xin with Feral Flare in competitive play.
As long as he doesn't start getting banned like half the other champions I see getting banned because people in pro use them... (ie: Kayle, LeBlanc, Renekton)
-_-
Yasen Baka
After playing just purely URF matches for over a week, it feels weird to adjust to the original cooldowns.
ItsukiKun
I just feel weird not being able to teleport to lane every time I go back to base.
[- Alex -]

MetalGearSnake wrote:

After playing just purely URF matches for over a week, it feels weird to adjust to the original cooldowns.

Same , my Zed skills are now "Thresh" ........ But was worth , URF is to fun , and one for all with urf is what i want now. RITO PLS
Elicchi_old
ARURF's the best idea reddit made in awhile too. lol.
BrokenArrow

BrokenArrow wrote:

Bought Shyvana today because I got completely stomped by a jungle Shyv as Yi yesterday. Wasn't pretty at all, her early dueling power is damn high.
Results will follow tomorrow.
Alright here it is. This went far too well for my very first game with Shyvana. In the end I was able to 1v4 them, this champion is great. xD



Shyvana > Yi confirmed, glad I'm not the only one losing that matchup
Elicchi_old

BrokenArrow wrote:

BrokenArrow wrote:

Bought Shyvana today because I got completely stomped by a jungle Shyv as Yi yesterday. Wasn't pretty at all, her early dueling power is damn high.
Results will follow tomorrow.
Alright here it is. This went far too well for my very first game with Shyvana. In the end I was able to 1v4 them, this champion is great. xD



Shyvana > Yi confirmed, glad I'm not the only one losing that matchup
didn't know people still play Jungle shyv.
scottyyy
Jungle Shyv with Feral Flare that just farms for the first 10 mins is incredibly strong. You to the point where you're as strong as top lane Shyv pretty quickly.
[- Alex -]

scottyyy wrote:

Jungle Shyv with Feral Flare that just farms for the first 10 mins is incredibly strong. You to the point where you're as strong as top lane Shyv pretty quickly.

Yeap. But not only Shyvana , look at Xin , Nocturne , Udyr , Voli . From out meta junglers to top bans or picks. The item is OP as hell. And i'm sure , they will nerf it in the next pack. And then bye , back to Spirit items....
Vulf
Just convinced myself that FF is indeed broken OP and needs to be nerfed a lot.



^ Support Warwick game.
I was actually feeding before I got FF and suddenly the second I got it the kills started rolling in. 100-0 their ADC with Q + Ulti.
Hika
Yesterday was my first time seeing a Shyvana with FF and exhaust at the same time...
that really wasn't fun...
BrokenArrow

Vulf wrote:

Just convinced myself that FF is indeed broken OP and needs to be nerfed a lot.



^ Support Warwick game.
I was actually feeding before I got FF and suddenly the second I got it the kills started rolling in. 100-0 their ADC with Q + Ulti.
A support Annie with DFG can oneshot carries too, shit's broken as fuck.
Jokes aside, how do you even get a FF as a support? I've seen junglers that take a damn long time stacking it and I doubt as a support you have free access to all the jungle camps. Unless you're never in lane of course.
Vulf
Annie blows her full combo and is useless for a few seconds. I mean her Tibbers does decent aoe damage and all.
Warwick is tanky heals a fuck load and deals insane consistent damage with FF. There was some points where I was 1v4ing them until my team came to help me.

The bot lane match up was Lucian + Warwick vs Vayne + Blitzcrank. Blitz is really annoying for Warwick early. I was purple side and I asked my Lee if he didn't mind me taking Wolves and Wight when they were up. Took about 28 mins to get FF, but it was worth the time.
TKiller


this looks like the best and the worst idea at the same time
[- Alex -]
Me :

Try Nocturne mid , win and shi.t on enemy mid laner. Then lose game. Because Master Yi with 20 kills and FF.......

(You may ask Nocturne mid? Rly bro? But he is good , #believe)
BrokenArrow
Aaaand dropped 2 divisons in 1 day again. Tilting so hard, just wanna cut my throat right now.
Seph


got Corporate Mundo on 1 iGift, so lucky

and then Prestigious LeBlanc and Tango Evelynn, was worth it with the first one tho!
Ceph23

WingsOfDeadthx wrote:

Me :

Try Nocturne mid , win and shi.t on enemy mid laner. Then lose game. Because Master Yi with 20 kills and FF.......

(You may ask Nocturne mid? Rly bro? But he is good , #believe)
Mid Noc? I imagine he'd get erased off the map pretty easily by a lot of traditional mid lane champs out there.
[- Alex -]

Ceph23 wrote:

WingsOfDeadthx wrote:

Me :

Try Nocturne mid , win and shi.t on enemy mid laner. Then lose game. Because Master Yi with 20 kills and FF.......

(You may ask Nocturne mid? Rly bro? But he is good , #believe)
Mid Noc? I imagine he'd get erased off the map pretty easily by a lot of traditional mid lane champs out there.
Star with Doran Balde. +3 life steel runes and the pasive is good. 1 hit pasive = +30 life . After buy i Vampire and done. But the thing is , you need blue buff. His mana cost is high ...... If you want to try it here is my masteries and runes.

Runes : Masteries :
If you want to play agresive in mid , or you thing is an easy lane take 21/9 for masteries and armor pen reds and remove the life steal. For masteries this is the 12/18/0 vs ad version , just change the armor bonus with the mr one. Gl and Hf. ^_^
Witch Mercy
Why did my fps drop like 10-20 ever since the last few patches? :c
Also, will increasing my ram boost up my fps?
[- Alex -]

Graciee wrote:

Why did my fps drop like 10-20 ever since the last few patches? :c
Also, will increasing my ram boost up my fps?

Run league on low setting and the shadows off. The fps drop is from the game. Is a bug in the game and drop you fps some times. I got like 60 from 120. Riot says they will fix it in the next pack or after 2-3 days from now.
Witch Mercy

WingsOfDeadthx wrote:

Graciee wrote:

Why did my fps drop like 10-20 ever since the last few patches? :c
Also, will increasing my ram boost up my fps?

Run league on low setting and the shadows off. The fps drop is from the game. Is a bug in the game and drop you fps some times. I got like 60 from 120. Riot says they will fix it in the next pack or after 2-3 days from now.
Is there an official thread or something about this?
I was wondering it might their fault... :V
OzzyOzrock
I wish I only had to deal with FPS trouble. Instead I play with 2000 ping and disconnect ever 4 minutes.
Blaziken
I recently had a game were I was at a permanant 130ms and when I did a ping check I was coming in with 13ms to google. Wierd. Next game it was sorted.
BrokenArrow
RIP Gambit.
If they get relegated there is no reason for me to watch the EU LCS anymore, all the other teams are so boring and standard. Gambit would deserve it after that game though.
Honestly NA LCS has so much more to offer #CLGFTW
GeeNX
ROCCAT did play well, but Gambit sucked so bad xD, the only thing they have to do is to not screw it up on early, and then they can win almost everyone in tf's....

NA's okay, even though it's easier to guess who will win compared to EU, it's like C9 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> TSM >>> CLG
[- Alex -]

Graciee wrote:

Is there an official thread or something about this?
I was wondering it might their fault... :V
Is a reddit post but i cant find it.....
Witch Mercy

WingsOfDeadthx wrote:

Graciee wrote:

Is there an official thread or something about this?
I was wondering it might their fault... :V
Is a reddit post but i cant find it.....
It's fine xD
Thank you~
Sapphiire_old_1
How does ranked 5vs5 and 3vs3 mmr work ? is it based of the mmr of the teamplayers ? cause we won 4 of the 5 placement matches and we got placed in bronze , tought we would alteast be silver
Uncr0wned

SoG Tava wrote:

How does ranked 5vs5 and 3vs3 mmr work ? is it based of the mmr of the teamplayers ? cause we won 4 of the 5 placement matches and we got placed in bronze , tought we would alteast be silver
Based on player mmr, if youre all diamond and lose all 5 you will probably be gold/silver, if youre bronze and win all 5 the highest is silver
Sapphiire_old_1

Uncr0wned wrote:

SoG Tava wrote:

How does ranked 5vs5 and 3vs3 mmr work ? is it based of the mmr of the teamplayers ? cause we won 4 of the 5 placement matches and we got placed in bronze , tought we would alteast be silver
Based on player mmr, if youre all diamond and lose all 5 you will probably be gold/silver, if youre bronze and win all 5 the highest is silver

i tought so , annyway thanks for the fast reply :)
Elicchi_old
Is Feral Flare lee sin good?
Sapphiire_old_1

AlfimusCore wrote:

Is Feral Flare lee sin good?
i dont realy think so Feral Flare is good on champions who benefits alot from attack speed

like for example : warwick , xin , master yi , phoenix stance udyr , shaco , vi , ect
Kanye West
Feral flare is bad on lee sin because he loses his strong early game impact by farming stacks instead of pressuring lanes

The item itself isn't terrible on him but it's counterproductive to build
[- Alex -]

AlfimusCore wrote:

Is Feral Flare lee sin good?

Yes it is. Just try it last night.

http://www.lolking.net/summoner/eune/29744188#matches

Dat is my build. First FF after Omen. Hyrda and LW next. If you are not tanky with Omen buy a Sunfier or Thormmail.
BrokenArrow
That feel when you win lane against a champion that's supposed to counter you (Riven vs. Ryze in my case), he doesn't show up in lane for the rest of the game anymore, roams all over the map and ends up carrying the game with like 9/5/10, with all of his 5 deaths in lane.

How do I counter that? Yes I pushed the lane all the way to the inhib but he didn't care and proceeded to get objectives with his team. At the point where people start grouping (like 25 minutes in) he already catched up with me so my advantage was gone. :c
[- Alex -]

BrokenArrow wrote:

That feel when you win lane against a champion that's supposed to counter you (Riven vs. Ryze in my case), he doesn't show up in lane for the rest of the game anymore, roams all over the map and ends up carrying the game with like 9/5/10, with all of his 5 deaths in lane.

How do I counter that? Yes I pushed the lane all the way to the inhib but he didn't care and proceeded to get objectives with his team. At the point where people start grouping (like 25 minutes in) he already catched up with me so my advantage was gone. :c
Do like him. Push destroy turret if he roam fallow him. Go help mid or bot , if they lose. Take drake or counter jungler the enemy buff (red/blue) . You can start destroy turret in 3vs2 or 2vs1 mid/bot.
Elicchi_old
Thanks for the info guys. Though, lee sin's not a really good jungler now. I dont know why, but after the W nerf, I feel like he's super sloppy to play in the jungle.

BrokenArrow wrote:

That feel when you win lane against a champion that's supposed to counter you (Riven vs. Ryze in my case), he doesn't show up in lane for the rest of the game anymore, roams all over the map and ends up carrying the game with like 9/5/10, with all of his 5 deaths in lane.

How do I counter that? Yes I pushed the lane all the way to the inhib but he didn't care and proceeded to get objectives with his team. At the point where people start grouping (like 25 minutes in) he already catched up with me so my advantage was gone. :c
you follow where he goes before he gets the advantage. Push the lane until the enemy turret, then proceed to help counterjungle or help the other lanes. Cause you have the advantage, not him. If he goes to where you are to help, It's another free kill for the team because you destroyed him in lane.
Witch Mercy
4/0 in ranked with Nidalee! Yay~ :3
Justykanna
Ugh, gotta love when people decide to ignore pick order... D=
Jordan
Ended 13/4/6 as Xin, we lost because enemy shyv carried them having 300cs (100 creeps more than lanes lol) and 60 stacks on FF, but guess who they blamed? Xin because "noob take all kill". You just can't escape flame. You feed, they'll flame you. You get fed, they'll blame you for "taking the kills".
BrokenArrow

Jordan wrote:

Ended 13/4/6 as Xin, we lost because enemy shyv carried them having 300cs (100 creeps more than lanes lol) and 60 stacks on FF, but guess who they blamed? Xin because "noob take all kill". You just can't escape flame. You feed, they'll flame you. You get fed, they'll blame you for "taking the kills".
That's funny because EXACTLY the same thing happened to me today. Played Riven and ended 14/4/2.
20 minutes in the game I had literally 100% of my team's kills. I got those kills in legit 1v1's and 1v2's, yet we lost and who was at fault? Obviously me, for taking all the kills.
Jordan
Just soloed baron at the 17 minute mark as Yi... thank you based feral flare
Vulf

AlfimusCore wrote:

Thanks for the info guys. Though, lee sin's not a really good jungler now. I dont know why, but after the W nerf, I feel like he's super sloppy to play in the jungle.
LOL
P r o m i s e s

AlfimusCore wrote:

Thanks for the info guys. Though, lee sin's not a really good jungler now. I dont know why, but after the W nerf, I feel like he's super sloppy to play in the jungle.
Wait, what?

Lee Sin is a great jungler. He does great early game damage, gets tanky late game and when used correctly a game changing ult. This blind monk gets constantly banned in high elo aswell.

Jordan wrote:

Just soloed baron at the 17 minute mark as Yi... thank you based feral flare
I did this too when the first one or two days Feral Flare was released. It was quite funny and to see the team respond with: "OMG WTF!?" XD
Kanye West
if you don't think lee sin is good then you can't play lee sin
BrokenArrow
I don't understand how people say Lee Sin is a mechanical complex champion tho
I mean there are just 2 things you have to learn, one is the Q->R->Q combo and the other one is wardjumping, which is honestly not that hard to do with smartcast and some practice. Aiming your ult is not always easy but that's about it, there are tons of other champs which are much harder to play imo
VoidnOwO
:oops:
[- Alex -]
I was with some friend , and pff bored. Play Soraka top , after dat game i was like "is time to main Soraka top/mid" . Now with this new heal , and some good items she is the best camp. Damage , tones of heal , and R tones of heals. What do you want more?
BrokenArrow
I think massive heal/shield comps could really become the new meta if they aren't getting nerfed in the near future
Best example was the first game from Fnatic vs. Alliance yesterday, if played correctly there isn't much that can stop it
[- Alex -]

BrokenArrow wrote:

I think massive heal/shield comps could really become the new meta if they aren't getting nerfed in the near future
Best example was the first game from Fnatic vs. Alliance yesterday, if played correctly there isn't much that can stop it
Yeap . And the 3 exhaust team combo is good.
Sapphiire_old_1
I think Fizz is in a good position again , played him recently in ranked solo Q and with my ranked team , i do the old incarnation thingy but instead of barrier/ignite i take heal/ignite and it works just fine you can use heal in a aggresive way solo tower dive them at lvl 3 all day :)
Elicchi_old
I just don't think lee's as good as he was before this patch. imo. lee top's better now.
Jordan
that feel when people 2 tiers under yours ask you for a ranked, and you need to find an excuse to tell them you can't...
tyrael6192
reasons to watch lcs:



those facial aesthetics ughhhhh 10/10 full homo
BrokenArrow
Honestly you guys need to pay attention to Deficio's face when one of the other casters is talking and he just listens, it's hilarious because his facial expressions make him look so retarded
tyrael6192

BrokenArrow wrote:

Honestly you guys need to pay attention to Deficio's face when one of the other casters is talking and he just listens, it's hilarious because his facial expressions make him look so retarded
i don't pay attention to anything except deficio's face

10/10 would recommend godlike facial structure
[- Alex -]
Deficio , meh. Phreak is the best.

Witch Mercy
Gold V, woot!
I wonder if I can make it to my goal of at least Plat V :U...
Sapphiire_old_1

Graciee wrote:

Gold V, woot!
You make me Jelly :/

I have found out that i might never make it to gold why ? because like i have been playing this game for like over then 3 years i watch alot of streams and read alot of guides , the thing is i just dont improve i 'know' how to play the game in theory but in pratice i cant aplly my knowledge of the game its weird when i am out of the game i can tell you what to do , when to group when to do drake , ... but in game my mind is a black hole its weird and i lose most of my games because of that 'black hole '
ItsukiKun

Jordan wrote:

that feel when people 2 tiers under yours ask you for a ranked, and you need to find an excuse to tell them you can't...
I actually agreed to do my provisionals with a friend with slightly lower MMR than me so I can get first pick > take jungle > win. We've only done 3 so far but won all of them.

SoG Tava wrote:

Graciee wrote:

Gold V, woot!
You make me Jelly :/

I have found out that i might never make it to gold why ? because like i have been playing this game for like over then 3 years i watch alot of streams and read alot of guides , the thing is i just dont improve i 'know' how to play the game in theory but in pratice i cant aplly my knowledge of the game its weird when i am out of the game i can tell you what to do , when to group when to do drake , ... but in game my mind is a black hole its weird and i lose most of my games because of that 'black hole '
I know that feel. Sometimes I'm like "I should gank now... oh wait maybe I should take my blue first" and then my laners are dead by the time I get there. That's probably just my OCD paired up with bronze logic though. :|
tyrael6192
the mmr pick order doesn't exist any more, does it? whenever i duo with people its always random

in fact even when i solo and someone leaves and i get re-queued with the same people, i might get first pick whereas the first time i got last pick or w/e
Sapphiire_old_1
Yep it doesen't exist any more , it is totaly random now
[- Alex -]
When i play ranks im always first. But i like the last place more..... (main supp so idk)
tyrael6192
champ select must be so relaxed for support mains

and short teambuilder queues fuck you
ItsukiKun
Still I'm pretty sure that was after the patch but I was always first and he was always last. (could be wrong though will try again soon).
[- Alex -]

tyrael6192 wrote:

champ select must be so relaxed for support mains

and short teambuilder queues fuck you
Yeap. But last week was like . In game type in chat Supp pls. 3 more ppl says same. 4 mains supp in 1 game. Is this a dream? Q-Q

And yes. In teambuilder i wait like 30 sec if a play supp. If a go mid top or adc i wait like 30 minutes for 1 supp.... Rito pls , we need more supp buff xD

Btw . Just won 2 games. Maokai ap mid 10/0/10 and Varus bot 17/0/5 xD

http://www.lolking.net/summoner/eune/29744188#matches
Navizel
Elicchi_old

Navizel wrote:

just saw this on /r/leagueoflegends's first page. lol.

been stuck in D4 for weeks. I have not been playing very well. gad.
BrokenArrow
lul got a pentakill with AP Nasus today
E too stronk
Elicchi_old
Wait, His R scales with AP too right?
BrokenArrow

AlfimusCore wrote:

Wait, His R scales with AP too right?
yes it does
Elicchi_old
damn lol. I can already imagine the damage.
Shunpo_old_1


this chat, sooo diamond! :D
Vulf
All divisions are elo hell. Elo heaven is when you quit the game.
Soarezi
whats elo hell
Myrmeleo
.
Vulf
These diamond players in my normal games. lol
I always give them the benefit of the doubt and assume they are trolling.



FF is still a stupid item. nerfs pls.
Shunpo_old_1
Its already nerfed on PBE, but not enough^^
[- Alex -]

Shunpo wrote:

Its already nerfed on PBE, but not enough^^
Man , the nerf is good. Is a nerf not a i delete this item for ever.... Like some champions now.
Vulf
It's 5 stacks which does nothing to Yi and Xin, but might hurt Warwick since he is slow as shit to begin with.
Jing Yuan
I play League with my tablet. Is that weird?
tyrael6192
i tried it once and oh god

trying to move the camera inbetween actually doing things is hell
La Volpe
Made this Nidalee rage quit at 15 minutes, that made my night.
Justykanna

La Volpe wrote:

Made this Nidalee rage quit at 15 minutes, that made my night.
Wait... you're 3-2 in Normals... you've only played five total?
The count doesn't reset because of your name change, does it? o_O
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