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BrokenArrow


People throw so easily on this elo it's pretty funny.
It all started with me getting a double kill bot lane and the enemy starting to flame their jungle Shaco for being useless. From that small advantage things went out of control and Vayne eventually started feeding intentionally. People started flaming harder and harder and basically played like the game was already over since the 8th minute.
In the end, Shaco was the only somewhat useful person in their team.

After that I got this pm:



#justgoldthings
noneed_old
so your enemy either picked vayne blindly or even more stupid, vayne into cait and he still has the nerve to blame his jungler.

sad.
Elicchi_old
lol the Vayne might have been trying to mimic hi im gosu. laning against a cait as any ADC is still pretty much hell though.
scottyyy
I will happily pick Vayne into Cait, even at diamond elo :P
Vulf
I'm kinda sad the new feral flare is probably going to get nerfed into oblivion. Play your Yi, Jax and Warwick jungles while you can.
Blaziken


The first ranked queue game I have ever won... time for me to lose every other one for all of eternity...
and im not even out of my provisionals yet..

I HEED THEIR CALL!

I call their heed?
P r o m i s e s
What is it with ADC's taking heal instead of barrier nowadays?
BrokenArrow
Heal got buffed and is much stronger than barrier after ~lvl 9 now
Renevant
Also, i'm pretty sure heal heals more than ignite does damage, so it can also be taken by supports
exosilver
Did anyone catch the game last night with C9 vs. Team Coast? Talk about a turn around! Meteos' recall juke and backdoor was insane!
Navizel
That one's pretty funny cause ZionSpartan usually splitpushes and backdoors with his Jax. They just got backdoored. lel
exosilver

Navizel wrote:

That one's pretty funny cause ZionSpartan usually splitpushes with his Jax
His Jax was the first ban on C9's side, and for good reason. If any team in the entire LCS is smart, they will never let Zion play Jax again. He's an absolute beast on him. Sure, he got it on the day before against TSM and lost, but it was really, really close.
Elicchi_old
ZionSpartan's Jax and Shiptur's Leblanc. both can carry Coast with 'em. No offense but, Coast is nothing without these 2 solo laners.
TKiller

Vulf wrote:

I'm kinda sad the new feral flare is probably going to get nerfed into oblivion. Play your Yi, Jax and Warwick jungles while you can.
Feral flare is bit op so it's to be expected. The concern is that knowing the balance team, they might take a look at the champions that use wriggle as well and that's be terrible.

What's even more sad that I was kinda shifting towards Yi lately and if he gets caught in the nerfs.. Well there is hope.


Third ranked penta of the season. People throw like they're paid for it. I'm tempted to say "fucking platinum, man" but I know it's the same everywhere.
P r o m i s e s

TKiller wrote:

Feral flare is bit op so it's to be expected. The concern is that knowing the balance team, they might take a look at the champions that use wriggle as well and that's be terrible.

What's even more sad that I was kinda shifting towards Yi lately and if he gets caught in the nerfs.. Well there is hope.


Third ranked penta of the season. People throw like they're paid for it. I'm tempted to say "fucking platinum, man" but I know it's the same everywhere.
Wow, that flame in the after game chat.
Elicchi_old
Can any PH player confirm that feral flare's up on our server as well? Havent been on since that last ziggs game.
Vulf
I doubt they will nerf the champions this time around.

Feral flare will probably get nerfed. Only issue I have with it is it allows you to solo baron with a very low risk. Even junglers that solo dragon at levels 5-6 get dangerously low. That's not the case with FF when it comes to baron.

Another thing I'd like to point out is that if this item gets nerfed it will be because of low elo. The item scales infinitely and silver and bronze players prolong games often. Higher up (high diamond) if you pick Yi to try and abuse this item you will probably get early invaded and insta gibed by a shaco or lee sin.

http://community.na.leagueoflegends.com ... h-forecast

Towards the bottom.

We are currently monitoring the power level of Feral Flare after its recent release, as our current thinking is that it may be a bit over-tuned.
We prefer to let it settle a bit on the Live servers before making any changes, but it's possible some adjustments to Feral Flare may make it into 4.6.
Witch Mercy
Master yi with feral flare carries games.
ItsukiKun

AlfimusCore wrote:

Can any PH player confirm that feral flare's up on our server as well? Havent been on since that last ziggs game.
The patch should be up by tomorrow in PH (or today since it's already the 9th here). Also, URF must be getting a LOT of attention for it to be extended again until Monday. I guess I can try out a few more champs then.
Vulf

Graciee wrote:

Master yi with feral flare carries games.
Master Yi is borderline broken at low elo. With or without FF. LOL
He can punish people hard for being out of position. Same applies to other champs no one plays anymore. Warwick, Darius, and then you have your snowballers like Kat and Akali who all do extremely well against people who lack good mechanics and knowledge of the game.

I've played around with FF on PBE for awhile before it was launched and it was kinda OP then. I really think the change it needs is to do a whole heck of a lot less damage to baron at early levels and possibly add a cap to the damage and healing so it's not ridiculous at low elo.

So far out of the 10 or so games I've played across my smurf and main account the most stacks I've gotten on FF is about 18. Games have been decided way too early and if you get shit stomped hard enough investing in wriggles is a waste of gold.
BrokenArrow


Can confirm
P r o m i s e s
Whoever said that purple team is in a disadvantage and is forced to lane swap on LCS stream, I wish it was never said. Seriously, every solo Q game I play now I see people switching lanes whenever they're on purple side. As a top lane main it's fucking annoying, to play against a Caitlyn, Vayne etc every game who will just poke the hell out of you. :/. Idk if others have this too, but hell I have this about every solo Q match I play :/
Sapphiire_old_1

P r o m i s e s wrote:

Whoever said that purple team is in a disadvantage and is forced to lane swap on LCS stream, I wish it was never said. Seriously, every solo Q game I play now I see people switching lanes whenever they're on purple side. As a top lane main it's fucking annoying, to play against a Caitlyn, Vayne etc every game who will just poke the hell out of you. :/. Idk if others have this too, but hell I have this about every solo Q match I play :/
tbh i never saw a lane swap in my solo Q game's
Elicchi_old

ItsukiKun wrote:

AlfimusCore wrote:

Can any PH player confirm that feral flare's up on our server as well? Havent been on since that last ziggs game.
The patch should be up by tomorrow in PH (or today since it's already the 9th here). Also, URF must be getting a LOT of attention for it to be extended again until Monday. I guess I can try out a few more champs then.
Thanks. surprised how players on our side seldom trashtalk in URF though. Atleast they know that this game mode's purely for fun.
I want to share my thoughts on Feral Flare, but I haven't even tried it yet. is it a good replacement for Lizard on Lee?
Cyclohexane


help i think i'm turning into doublelift
Elicchi_old

Mr Color wrote:



help i think i'm turning into doublelift
champion kills = doublelift
turrets = imaqtpie

LOL
OzzyOzrock
PSA on skin choice.

Deep Sea Thresh: Guaranteed to land 80% of your hooks.
Championship Thresh: The reason you're blue, is because you're feeding.



Skin choice. It makes the difference.
Witch Mercy
Is it better to just spam one champion or a variety of champions through ranked?
Vulf
I got gold + last season only playing Warwick in like 30ish total ranked games. So yeah spam one champion to climb.
BrokenArrow
I would say 1 for each role is optimal, maybe 2 in case the other one gets banned/picked beforehand
Or just play a champ that can do well in pretty much any lane like Warwick lol
Justykanna

Graciee wrote:

Is it better to just spam one champion or a variety of champions through ranked?

BrokenArrow wrote:

I would say 1 for each role is optimal, maybe 2 in case the other one gets banned/picked beforehand
Also depends how much experience you have with each lane. And if you like using a champion that's banned a lot like (from what I see anyway) Leona, LeBlanc, Syvana and Vi, for example, have a backup for that too.
If you've been playing normals for a while, maybe have two champions for your preferred lane?
Vulf
1-2 per role is definitely the better option unless you are really good with certain champions.

There are quite a few champions that can play every role decently. Lulu, Kayle, Gangplank, Heimerdinger, Lee Sin, Elise.
I didn't include stuff like Warwick there because if you try to play Adc or support Warwick you will most likely get 4 man reported if you lose the game.

Then you have a bunch of stuff that can play at least 4 roles decently. Jayce, Nidalee, Kennen, Karma, Riven, Maestro Yi.. list goes on.
Elicchi_old
having 1-3 roles is pretty much BnB in ranked. Just as long as you know how every role works, you'll be fine. Climbed my way to Diamond with just Riven, and then learned other champs through matchups and experience.
TKiller
Just play whatever the fuck you want.

Draft-shmaft.
TKiller
Why is Quinn so fun to play, oh my god, she has a move that makes her go into someone's face and out in a single key press. Why would I even need other skills, this is satisfying enough.



GO FOR THE EYES
Witch Mercy
What's the best role and/or champion to carry in solo queue? :V
Navizel
Mid who can snowball e.g. Akali (at least in lower elo) and LeBlanc

or tanky/bruiser top like Jax and Renekton
Vulf
If you are good enough at jungle you can demoralize the enemy team enough to surrender at 20. I did this often when I was low silver last season.
PyaKura
In low elo taking a strong early jungler can be quite devastating (Kha, Udyr, Lee Sin, Xin, and more !) since you can literally walk into the enemy jungle at level 2 (after Blue and big wraith) and destroy the enemy jungler at his red without retaliation 90% of the time, then proceed to get ahead of everyone.
BrokenArrow

Vulf wrote:

If you are good enough at jungle you can demoralize the enemy team enough to surrender at 20. I did this often when I was low silver last season.
This. What experience has taught me is that it's super effctive to camp one specific lane. Gank it over and over and over again, fuck farming and anything else. In result, the enemy laner will be super demoralized/pissed and his team will flame him until he ends up intentionally feeding or going afk. This works from Bronze to Gold. Sure, you might lose pressure on objectives, but most of the time the enemy won't capitalize on it hard enough to make up for effectively a 4v5.
This might not work if your other lanes feed, it'll probably backfire and you will be the one getting blamed. But that's the case anyways if you decide to become a jungler.
Balgon

Graciee wrote:

What's the best role and/or champion to carry in solo queue? :V
I carried myself to platinum 1 with spamming riven top but she was more OP at the time.

This was about a year ago. I quit playing ranked seriously after that and stopped playing league 2 months ago
those

Graciee wrote:

What's the best role and/or champion to carry in solo queue? :V
With how Feral Flame works right now, Junglers are in a great position to carry. Master Yi is just unstoppable, and Warwick is surprisingly strong.
Hika
Warwick is like invincible now if he gets on some carries but it's not that big of a deal.
I want them to nerf feral flame, pls
tyrael6192

Balgon wrote:

Graciee wrote:

What's the best role and/or champion to carry in solo queue? :V
I carried myself to platinum 1 with spamming riven top but she was more OP at the time.

This was about a year ago. I quit playing ranked seriously after that and stopped playing league 2 months ago
at the start of the season i got placed in silver 2, and i got myself back to plat 2 within a week by spamming riven mid

nobody in low elo knows how to deal with it. you can roam into their jungle or bot/top very easily and duel pretty much anyone. mid game you're unstoppable if you got a couple of kills, which really isn't hard with how strong riven is against mid squishies, and late game so long as you stay out of their focus and cc you can just instagib their carries

if you get your mechanics nailed riven is a shitstomper
Vulf
Feral Flare already has nerfs on the PBE and probably more to come. I wouldn't get too comfortable with the junglers abusing it just yet.
Blaziken
Aww, I just decided to go jungle warwick for once. Feral flare allowed me to lifesteal past the tower aggro.
Slith
honestly. with the feral flare up i still don't know how to jungle. especially when i'm under pressure. it's too hard dealing with team mates who flame at you for not ganking and they just overextend. it sucks even if i'm at gold. i already have good positioning and mechanics of all lanes but jungling is not just for me. if i jungle the only champs i can do is lee, vi,j4,kha. just tried shyv but i was more comfortable with her at top. honestly jungling is hard. and i wanna learn it
tyrael6192

Slith wrote:

it's too hard dealing with team mates who flame at you
/mute all
Blaziken
How to jungle:
Play Warwick.
Be placed against people better than you all the time.
Not know how to jungle.

tyrael6192 wrote:

/mute all
Run into a lane and ult the enemy.
Run the fuck away because you just went into a 2v1.
Win the match
Build a feral flare until the nerfs get here. After that, I don't know.

Side note

You need a connection which looks like this for this to work.
Vulf
The current FF nerf is going to hurt Warwick more than the others because he is slower at clearing. Which makes me think they are going to nerf this item a lot more. Yi and Xin are beyond obnoxious when they get this item and they fly through the jungle incredibly fast so the stack transformation increase nerf does little to them.

I don't get why or how people are getting away with sitting in the jungle until this item is stacked. I see this in diamond and challenger games. Warwick is incredibly vulnerable early game as is Yi so you can very easily push them out and steal their buffs and camps which hurts them a lot. Only exception here is Xin and Shaco who have ridiculous early games. I guess people forgot that counter jungling actually hurts a lot of these junglers. God forbid Shyvana and Udyr make a come back. Those two were a living nightmare for me as Warwick back in season 2.
BrokenArrow

Vulf wrote:

I don't get why or how people are getting away with sitting in the jungle until this item is stacked.
That's why I think FF doesn't need further nerfs than already on PBE. Sure it's still strong, but you can punish people using it pretty hard. Even more nerfs will just result in less variety in the jungle and we'll only see Lee/Kha/Elilse/Pantheon/Vi etc. again, which is pretty boring to be honest. As you could see in the Challenger Series, if your team makes sure to pressure the enemy jungler early there isn't much he can do.
Vulf
People don't want to adapt so Riot nerfs shit into oblivion for them. I wouldn't be surprised if some juglers end up getting nerfed because all the lee sin mains are mad they aren't miles above the other junglers anymore. Sadly they are too bad to realize that Lee can just go into their jungle at level 2 and kill both Yi and Warwick. LOL

Honestly the item is a little too strong for the stats it gives. 1650 gold that gives you stats equivalent to botrk and wits end. If I was going to touch the stats I would nerf the on hit heal and have the damage reduction apply to baron like it does to champions. These are by far the most 2 complained things I've seen on both reddit and league forums. Baron should not be soloable by anyone the second it spawns.

I think FF needs to be moved more towards a late-mid game item because it already boils down to the jungler who is ahead with this item will almost always win which is kind of a problem. This is why stuff like BT and Mejais lose stacks on death.
BrokenArrow

Vulf wrote:

People don't want to adapt so Riot nerfs shit into oblivion for them. .
But Riot most of the time balances the game around competetive play, so we're gonna see what effect this item has during the playoffs/allstars.
I agree with the damage reduction point you mentioned, that's gonna make the item a lot more balanced when it comes to those objectives.
Vulf
I think we will see a ton of Xin with Feral Flare in competitive play. He has the least counterplay out of all the junglers that use it.

They do nerf when it comes to solo queue, but it mostly caters to bronze players. See previous Yi, Akali, and Darius nerfs. For the most part though they do nerf for the pro scene, so if your favorite champion is dominating at the LCS you should be concerned for their future.
Miyu
5 won 5 lost got placed into bronze 3 =/ now im trying to get higher then bronze because..obvious reasons,heres my last games after my promotion..luckly there was no trolls! couldn't be more thankful for that lol

TKiller
Oh my god, why am I not jungling Aatrox every single game, I forgot he exists at all.
BrokenArrow
Bought Shyvana today because I got completely stomped by a jungle Shyv as Yi yesterday. Wasn't pretty at all, her early dueling power is damn high.
Results will follow tomorrow.
P r o m i s e s
I had a jungle Shyvana in my team today who refused to take smite because she said that she wouldn't need it... She also refused to build tanky and proceeded to buy a Bloodthister, phantom dancer, statikk shiv and berserker greaves :/. Also, like 3 dragon's got stolen away from us because we had no jungler with smite.
This person played terrible and according to that person he/she was trying his/her best, lol.
I'm never gonna get out Silver 2 if I'm gonna continue having teams like this.
VoidnOwO
:)
Vulf
Did everyone forget how horrifying jungle Shyvana was in season 2? I kinda don't want that to come back.
Elicchi_old

Vulf wrote:

Did everyone forget how horrifying jungle Shyvana was in season 2? I kinda don't want that to come back.
I know that feel. jungle Shyvana with exhaust. it's so frustrating to play against.
Seph
RIP U.R.F.

I never liked you anyway :D
Navizel
It was fun at the start. Just like any other things that became popular.
Justykanna

Vulf wrote:

I think we will see a ton of Xin with Feral Flare in competitive play.
As long as he doesn't start getting banned like half the other champions I see getting banned because people in pro use them... (ie: Kayle, LeBlanc, Renekton)
-_-
Yasen Baka
After playing just purely URF matches for over a week, it feels weird to adjust to the original cooldowns.
ItsukiKun
I just feel weird not being able to teleport to lane every time I go back to base.
[- Alex -]

MetalGearSnake wrote:

After playing just purely URF matches for over a week, it feels weird to adjust to the original cooldowns.

Same , my Zed skills are now "Thresh" ........ But was worth , URF is to fun , and one for all with urf is what i want now. RITO PLS
Elicchi_old
ARURF's the best idea reddit made in awhile too. lol.
BrokenArrow

BrokenArrow wrote:

Bought Shyvana today because I got completely stomped by a jungle Shyv as Yi yesterday. Wasn't pretty at all, her early dueling power is damn high.
Results will follow tomorrow.
Alright here it is. This went far too well for my very first game with Shyvana. In the end I was able to 1v4 them, this champion is great. xD



Shyvana > Yi confirmed, glad I'm not the only one losing that matchup
Elicchi_old

BrokenArrow wrote:

BrokenArrow wrote:

Bought Shyvana today because I got completely stomped by a jungle Shyv as Yi yesterday. Wasn't pretty at all, her early dueling power is damn high.
Results will follow tomorrow.
Alright here it is. This went far too well for my very first game with Shyvana. In the end I was able to 1v4 them, this champion is great. xD



Shyvana > Yi confirmed, glad I'm not the only one losing that matchup
didn't know people still play Jungle shyv.
scottyyy
Jungle Shyv with Feral Flare that just farms for the first 10 mins is incredibly strong. You to the point where you're as strong as top lane Shyv pretty quickly.
[- Alex -]

scottyyy wrote:

Jungle Shyv with Feral Flare that just farms for the first 10 mins is incredibly strong. You to the point where you're as strong as top lane Shyv pretty quickly.

Yeap. But not only Shyvana , look at Xin , Nocturne , Udyr , Voli . From out meta junglers to top bans or picks. The item is OP as hell. And i'm sure , they will nerf it in the next pack. And then bye , back to Spirit items....
Vulf
Just convinced myself that FF is indeed broken OP and needs to be nerfed a lot.



^ Support Warwick game.
I was actually feeding before I got FF and suddenly the second I got it the kills started rolling in. 100-0 their ADC with Q + Ulti.
Hika
Yesterday was my first time seeing a Shyvana with FF and exhaust at the same time...
that really wasn't fun...
BrokenArrow

Vulf wrote:

Just convinced myself that FF is indeed broken OP and needs to be nerfed a lot.



^ Support Warwick game.
I was actually feeding before I got FF and suddenly the second I got it the kills started rolling in. 100-0 their ADC with Q + Ulti.
A support Annie with DFG can oneshot carries too, shit's broken as fuck.
Jokes aside, how do you even get a FF as a support? I've seen junglers that take a damn long time stacking it and I doubt as a support you have free access to all the jungle camps. Unless you're never in lane of course.
Vulf
Annie blows her full combo and is useless for a few seconds. I mean her Tibbers does decent aoe damage and all.
Warwick is tanky heals a fuck load and deals insane consistent damage with FF. There was some points where I was 1v4ing them until my team came to help me.

The bot lane match up was Lucian + Warwick vs Vayne + Blitzcrank. Blitz is really annoying for Warwick early. I was purple side and I asked my Lee if he didn't mind me taking Wolves and Wight when they were up. Took about 28 mins to get FF, but it was worth the time.
TKiller


this looks like the best and the worst idea at the same time
[- Alex -]
Me :

Try Nocturne mid , win and shi.t on enemy mid laner. Then lose game. Because Master Yi with 20 kills and FF.......

(You may ask Nocturne mid? Rly bro? But he is good , #believe)
BrokenArrow
Aaaand dropped 2 divisons in 1 day again. Tilting so hard, just wanna cut my throat right now.
Seph


got Corporate Mundo on 1 iGift, so lucky

and then Prestigious LeBlanc and Tango Evelynn, was worth it with the first one tho!
Ceph23

WingsOfDeadthx wrote:

Me :

Try Nocturne mid , win and shi.t on enemy mid laner. Then lose game. Because Master Yi with 20 kills and FF.......

(You may ask Nocturne mid? Rly bro? But he is good , #believe)
Mid Noc? I imagine he'd get erased off the map pretty easily by a lot of traditional mid lane champs out there.
[- Alex -]

Ceph23 wrote:

WingsOfDeadthx wrote:

Me :

Try Nocturne mid , win and shi.t on enemy mid laner. Then lose game. Because Master Yi with 20 kills and FF.......

(You may ask Nocturne mid? Rly bro? But he is good , #believe)
Mid Noc? I imagine he'd get erased off the map pretty easily by a lot of traditional mid lane champs out there.
Star with Doran Balde. +3 life steel runes and the pasive is good. 1 hit pasive = +30 life . After buy i Vampire and done. But the thing is , you need blue buff. His mana cost is high ...... If you want to try it here is my masteries and runes.

Runes : Masteries :
If you want to play agresive in mid , or you thing is an easy lane take 21/9 for masteries and armor pen reds and remove the life steal. For masteries this is the 12/18/0 vs ad version , just change the armor bonus with the mr one. Gl and Hf. ^_^
Witch Mercy
Why did my fps drop like 10-20 ever since the last few patches? :c
Also, will increasing my ram boost up my fps?
[- Alex -]

Graciee wrote:

Why did my fps drop like 10-20 ever since the last few patches? :c
Also, will increasing my ram boost up my fps?

Run league on low setting and the shadows off. The fps drop is from the game. Is a bug in the game and drop you fps some times. I got like 60 from 120. Riot says they will fix it in the next pack or after 2-3 days from now.
Witch Mercy

WingsOfDeadthx wrote:

Graciee wrote:

Why did my fps drop like 10-20 ever since the last few patches? :c
Also, will increasing my ram boost up my fps?

Run league on low setting and the shadows off. The fps drop is from the game. Is a bug in the game and drop you fps some times. I got like 60 from 120. Riot says they will fix it in the next pack or after 2-3 days from now.
Is there an official thread or something about this?
I was wondering it might their fault... :V
OzzyOzrock
I wish I only had to deal with FPS trouble. Instead I play with 2000 ping and disconnect ever 4 minutes.
Blaziken
I recently had a game were I was at a permanant 130ms and when I did a ping check I was coming in with 13ms to google. Wierd. Next game it was sorted.
BrokenArrow
RIP Gambit.
If they get relegated there is no reason for me to watch the EU LCS anymore, all the other teams are so boring and standard. Gambit would deserve it after that game though.
Honestly NA LCS has so much more to offer #CLGFTW
GeeNX
ROCCAT did play well, but Gambit sucked so bad xD, the only thing they have to do is to not screw it up on early, and then they can win almost everyone in tf's....

NA's okay, even though it's easier to guess who will win compared to EU, it's like C9 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> TSM >>> CLG
[- Alex -]

Graciee wrote:

Is there an official thread or something about this?
I was wondering it might their fault... :V
Is a reddit post but i cant find it.....
Witch Mercy

WingsOfDeadthx wrote:

Graciee wrote:

Is there an official thread or something about this?
I was wondering it might their fault... :V
Is a reddit post but i cant find it.....
It's fine xD
Thank you~
Sapphiire_old_1
How does ranked 5vs5 and 3vs3 mmr work ? is it based of the mmr of the teamplayers ? cause we won 4 of the 5 placement matches and we got placed in bronze , tought we would alteast be silver
Uncr0wned

SoG Tava wrote:

How does ranked 5vs5 and 3vs3 mmr work ? is it based of the mmr of the teamplayers ? cause we won 4 of the 5 placement matches and we got placed in bronze , tought we would alteast be silver
Based on player mmr, if youre all diamond and lose all 5 you will probably be gold/silver, if youre bronze and win all 5 the highest is silver
Sapphiire_old_1

Uncr0wned wrote:

SoG Tava wrote:

How does ranked 5vs5 and 3vs3 mmr work ? is it based of the mmr of the teamplayers ? cause we won 4 of the 5 placement matches and we got placed in bronze , tought we would alteast be silver
Based on player mmr, if youre all diamond and lose all 5 you will probably be gold/silver, if youre bronze and win all 5 the highest is silver

i tought so , annyway thanks for the fast reply :)
Elicchi_old
Is Feral Flare lee sin good?
Sapphiire_old_1

AlfimusCore wrote:

Is Feral Flare lee sin good?
i dont realy think so Feral Flare is good on champions who benefits alot from attack speed

like for example : warwick , xin , master yi , phoenix stance udyr , shaco , vi , ect
Kanye West
Feral flare is bad on lee sin because he loses his strong early game impact by farming stacks instead of pressuring lanes

The item itself isn't terrible on him but it's counterproductive to build
[- Alex -]

AlfimusCore wrote:

Is Feral Flare lee sin good?

Yes it is. Just try it last night.

http://www.lolking.net/summoner/eune/29744188#matches

Dat is my build. First FF after Omen. Hyrda and LW next. If you are not tanky with Omen buy a Sunfier or Thormmail.
BrokenArrow
That feel when you win lane against a champion that's supposed to counter you (Riven vs. Ryze in my case), he doesn't show up in lane for the rest of the game anymore, roams all over the map and ends up carrying the game with like 9/5/10, with all of his 5 deaths in lane.

How do I counter that? Yes I pushed the lane all the way to the inhib but he didn't care and proceeded to get objectives with his team. At the point where people start grouping (like 25 minutes in) he already catched up with me so my advantage was gone. :c
[- Alex -]

BrokenArrow wrote:

That feel when you win lane against a champion that's supposed to counter you (Riven vs. Ryze in my case), he doesn't show up in lane for the rest of the game anymore, roams all over the map and ends up carrying the game with like 9/5/10, with all of his 5 deaths in lane.

How do I counter that? Yes I pushed the lane all the way to the inhib but he didn't care and proceeded to get objectives with his team. At the point where people start grouping (like 25 minutes in) he already catched up with me so my advantage was gone. :c
Do like him. Push destroy turret if he roam fallow him. Go help mid or bot , if they lose. Take drake or counter jungler the enemy buff (red/blue) . You can start destroy turret in 3vs2 or 2vs1 mid/bot.
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