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Vulf
It's actually really fucking good on nocturne. I've been playing him on PBE and the new madreds path significantly improves his early clear time. Only problem is his pre-6 ganks suffer some.

Thing is feral flare isn't really a late game item. It's just scales into it well if you play with it correctly. You can get the item around the 8 - 10 minute mark (depends on kills and counter jungling) for 1650 gold with base stats comparable to BoRK. This item is hardly a laughing matter.

Another thing I want to point out is you get stacks with machete, madreds and wriggles so you don't even have to upgrade to wriggles until you get the stacks for the transform. Yes feral flare has the same transfrom mechanic arcangel and manamune does.

If anything you can build it as a situational item. I wouldn't really want to build this item on most things when I know I'm going to have a hard early game.
Sapphiire_old_1


This game <3 That pentakill <3
Sapphiire_old_1
A team was formed to address the recent issues in EUW. The team included platform engineers, live producer, network engineer and me.

The problem:

All of a sudden the majority of the frontend systems that the players connect to, timed out and dropped players from the platform causing a Login queue. There are other side effects such as game starts slowing down significantly.


Why does this problem occur?

One or more of nodes in the memory caching cluster encounter a “out of memory” error for their java heap. This for some reason freezes up the whole cluster for a couple of minutes causing a cascading failure.

The “nitty-gritty” details:

The front end servers, backend services and databases communicate through an intermediary memory caching layer. This is a fairly standard design. What makes us unique is that we are probably the only shop that runs more than normal number nodes in that cluster design. The node that goes out of memory for some reason was shoring up a ton of data instead of sending it over the network.

We have an automated process that restarts the nodes that run out of memory. We have been doing it for a while without an issue, however in the past few days, the restart of a node fails to happen cleanly and it ends up joining the cluster in a bad state that causes it request a ton of data causing further issues.

The steps of nodes leaving and joining the cluster is a fairly normal operation, so why was it causing issues?

We reached out to the vendor of the memory caching software. It turns out we are running into a bug that might be fixed in the newer version. We have few leads on what is causing this bug and we are verifying them.

In the mean time we are doing the following.

1) Disabling the auto restart of nodes that run out of memory to prevent this.
2) Load testing the newer version of the software.
3) Separating End of Game Stats into a separate queue to enable players to get back into game faster.


FAQ/Statements/WhynotdothisRiot:

1) “Add more servers Rito don't be stingy!”
Add more servers can/will probably exacerbate the problem. We added servers on March 6th in anticipation of the growth of EUW while Amsterdam is getting ready. There is a theory that the new systems might actually contribute to the problem and we might consider shutting them down as they were added to handle future growth for the month of March.

2) Why is this taking so long?
It does take a while to analyze heap dumps and stack traces and tie that to the appropriate root cause especially when the software is provided by a 3rd party and not something written in house.

3) If you are the shop running the largest number of nodes of this caching software is that good or bad?
Its neither good or bad. It just works, what it probably means is that we need to revisit some of the configuration values for the system. We have run loadtests before going live with some configurations. This problem in particular seems to have a hard fail somewhere in the boundary of 48-72 hours with an occasional blip in between.

4) If the node is not able to send data over the network then the network is bad!
We looked into this. The network engineers and the expert from the company that provides the memory caching layer confirmed that. Since the systems of the cluster are on the same network, they are no routing problems for the nodes in this cluster.”

5) But why does ONLY EUW suffer?
We have seen this problem show up in Vietnam, NA and in Latin America. However the frequency is higher in Vietnam and EUW.


Edit: Working on the issue that is happening right now.
Sigh .....
Vulf
I've always had the feeling that if it was any other gaming company (like valve for example) an issue like this would have been fixed long ago.
Sapphiire_old_1

Vulf wrote:

I've always had the feeling that if it was any other gaming company had (like valve for example) an issue like this would have been fixed long ago.
Same for me like i understand you can have some issues but tbh it is like almost every day for like what from beta ? ... they say they are doing there best ect , i think it is time to finaly see some improvement
Vulf
It wasn't as bad back then at least when I started playing. Just got progressively worse like mid season 2.

Server issues aside (shit happens) Riot gets away with a lot of stuff simply because they can. They are so far on top of other games in their genre it isn't even funny anymore. Fact of the matter is until some other game rises up I wouldn't expect to see any drastic improvements. Riot as a company now is definitely a shadow of their former self from 3 years ago. I really want the old Riot back. :(
tyrael6192
tiper

Meanwhile. A gold Olaf looks so cool.
TKiller
Zhonya's glass is an amazing item which I've built in plenty of my Vayne and Zed won games.

Also I still disagree with Feral thingie on Nocturne, just can't put it into words atm, I need some sleep.
tiper

TKiller wrote:

Zhonya's glass is an amazing item which I've built in plenty of my Vayne and Zed won games.
I wanted to buy rabadon deathcap, but Olaf has no AP scales.
Vulf
I'm kinda surprised it's not being picked up more as a defensive item on things. That 2.5 seconds of immunity when a bruiser dives you would probably end up getting them killed. LOL

I've even built it on some junglers and top laners too.
Cyclohexane


God that W change makes Naut's early game so much easier
Sapphiire_old_1

Mr Color wrote:



God that W change makes Naut's early game so much easier

Dat tear on cait tho xD
Kanye West
Dat GHOST on cait tho.
VoidnOwO
:oops:
OzzyOzrock
My match history actually makes me seem halfway decent, except the farm.



But I'm a normal-only scrub ;c
Seph

TKiller wrote:

Zhonya's glass is an amazing item
yes, except for the fact THAT I ALWAYS FORGET I HAVE ZHONYA

It's really gonna take me time to get used to LoL, also, arctic ops varus is a very great skin
those


waaai Twin Shadows Statikk Shiv for maximum move speed
NeoRainier
Support ftw!

ItsukiKun

Seems Vlad's favorite number is 18 (purely coincidence).
Vuelo Eluko
Posting this here to commemorate

just happened

OzzyOzrock
i love how few fucks i can give in team builder games

OH MY GOD THE URF MODE IS AMAZING
P r o m i s e s
I love the new URF Gamemode .You have 80% CDR throught the entire game, no mana and no energy, attack speed bonusses for ADC's has been doubled.
Vulf
My favorite bottom lane comp is pretty amazing in the new game mode. Soraka + Warwick bottom lane = always heal never die. <3
It's a shame they can't get along in the lore. :(
Ceph23
I was playing Draven and the entire time I was thinking:
"Damn. I want that old passive back"

In other news, this is the third week in a row where I already have all the champs available on the free to play champ rotation.
Freakin amazing.
OzzyOzrock


Please ban Hecarim.
Aoriki
Rapid Fire mod: Soraka and Sona are scary as hell in that mode....
Cyclone
Shiirn, Kisata, and I got to play professionals in URF. We won!

Miyu

Aoriki wrote:

Rapid Fire mod: Soraka and Sona are scary as hell in that mode....
Synchrostar
shen fun in URF
dash around weeeeeeeeeeee
Navizel
I just love Soraka and Sona bot lane in URF. Unlimited heals and pokes.

Also, Urgot in URF is too op. Hit E and profit.

edit: more entertaining than the actual LCS

PyaKura
Morgana, hit root, you're doomed lol
root lasts 3 secs, CD is 2.2

Sion is viable as well, being perma shielded and literally stunshield killing everyone all day long with a DFG...

Singed can ult the whole game after level 6.

Same goes for Mundo buuut it's a shame that he has to wait 3 secs inbetween ults ;-;
Navizel
Been seeing a lot of Sion in lower elo so I guess it's really viable. Prolly Hecarim too.
Elicchi_old
the most OP champ I have seen in URF is AP Blitz and Riven.
Aoriki
Pulls for days~ That CD on Blitz is scary as hell.
BrokenArrow
Guys, don't forget about Talon. Talon is god tier.
1s point and click silence/gapcloser with a 2s cooldown on top of a stealth on an assassin is just pure evil~
Cyclohexane
playing against syndra in urf becomes the biggest game of dodgeball, I swear
Elicchi_old

Mr Color wrote:

playing against syndra in urf becomes the biggest game of dodgeball, I swear
Played this matchup as Ziggs. LOL
PyaKura

Mr Color wrote:

playing against syndra in urf becomes the biggest game of dodgeball, I swear
Mergerd how many balls can you place at once for her ult ?
VoidnOwO
:)
BrokenArrow

PyaKura wrote:

Mr Color wrote:

playing against syndra in urf becomes the biggest game of dodgeball, I swear
Mergerd how many balls can you place at once for her ult ?
I think it's about 7 iirc.
Cyclohexane
I think you can get up to 8 if you do it right with W but yeah it's absolutely balls (huehuehuehue)
Elicchi_old
I think the maximum's 8. 8's already enough to kill. lol.
VoidnOwO
:oops:
Synchrostar


shen pls

EDIT:


I CAN CHASE A NIDALEE
Cyclohexane
http://na.leagueoflegends.com/en/page/c ... plague-rat

that was unexpected but can't say I'm not happy, my favorite adc getting a VU
Vulf
They ruined Vandal Twitch with that update and that was one of my favorite skins in the game. At least some of his recolors look good now.
Aoriki
He finally has legs -Lawl~-
Navizel
http://na.leagueoflegends.com/node/13907 this patch

Good to see a Miss Fortune buff.
Elicchi_old
new Twitch VU looks awesome. But, I thought they were working on Sion first? Its been months since the last update about Sion's rework.
those
No more Mage Fortune
Vulf

AlfimusCore wrote:

new Twitch VU looks awesome. But, I thought they were working on Sion first? Its been months since the last update about Sion's rework.
The art department has multiple teams that work on different projects. Twitch was low risk while Sion is high risk.

Low risk = Theme stays the same and champion needs no balance attention. (Twitch, Karthus, Ryze, Taric(?))
Medium risk = Theme stays the same, but champion needs a balance rehaul A.K.A relaunch. (Warwick, Poppy, Kassadin, Zilean)
High risk = Pretty much theme issues and (or) severe kit problems. (Eve, Sion)

From speculation the next VU (after twitch) will be a relaunch. Possibly Sion, Warwick, or Poppy. :)
Elicchi_old
hmm. I guess they could go for poppy first instead. She's broken as f in top lane. She might as well be the next Shyvana.
Cyclohexane

Vulf wrote:

They ruined Vandal Twitch with that update and that was one of my favorite skins in the game. At least some of his recolors look good now.
Yeah, kinda. Whistler Village looks freaking awesome now, though.
Vulf

AlfimusCore wrote:

hmm. I guess they could go for poppy first instead. She's broken as f in top lane. She might as well be the next Shyvana.
Last I heard she is very low priority when it comes to a kit rework. Basically she won't be looked into unless she becomes a problem. I'm pretty sure she is getting a complete remake because her kit is really stupid and badly designed. No info on it so we might get a surprise.

Based off what I've read/Rioters I've talked with these could be the next potential VU''s or Relaunches coming up.
Singed - New model was leaked a few months back
Warwick - Kit rework is done. No word from the art team. I pretty much got an "I don't know" from Ironstylus when I pm'd him in game about it.
Kassadin - I was told he was high priority, but that was back in 2013 so w/e. LOL
Ryze - Model is supposedly done' but it's been that way for 10 months now. =\

I'm hoping for a simultaneous release of Singed and Warwick with possible interactions with Soraka. Lets be real here these two champs have been severely neglected by the art team. Warwick still has the same splash from Alpha days and Singed has been the same since beta. Singed's lore was never updated when they redid Soraka and Warwick's so he is stuck in an alternate universe. I don't get why they went so long like this.

But nope better start working on Rivens 7th splash art after they are done with Ezreals 4th one. :)

Mr Color wrote:

Yeah, kinda. Whistler Village looks freaking awesome now, though.
They took away his glasses and his nose chain. Also that fur color is disgusting. I'm refunding that skin when the VU goes live.
I really like the kingpin Twitch now, though I'll miss his pancake. LOL

Some people may not know, but you can get a free refund (doesn't use up a refund token) on champion/skins if that champion got a VU and you don't like it. https://support.leagueoflegends.com/ent ... und-FAQ#h5

Done this with a couple of skins already.
Elicchi_old
Wait, Kassadin's kit has already changed right? he doesn't have that annoying 100 second silence anymore. and a Singed relaunch could make one Dyrus very happy.
Vulf
Yes they already gave Kassadin a mini rework. Honestly I feel it was rushed because Riot didn't want to nerf him into unplayability. Problematic champions (that see a lot of competitive play) seem to get rework priority now which is good. Gragas, Kassadin, etc..
Miyu
after 5 months of casual practice in normals with high tier matchmaking matches i could step onto the elo hell for the 1st time this year ,got myself a penta and plus half of the game we're 4vs5..this made me so happy!

Cyclohexane
Tried the new Rumble skin in a normal game. For some reason, it feels like it's easier to last hit with it. Maybe it's because the animation is different.
VoidnOwO
:oops:
BrokenArrow

BRBP wrote:

Lost 3 more ranked games after going down to 0LP and I didn't get demoted. WHAT IS THIS?
I always get demoted instantly when I get to 0LP.

None of them even had loss prevented o_o
Edit: No I'm not in V
Idk man, I got demoted after losing a game while having 4 LP left. Not sure what this is all about, Rito messed something up after they changed the pick order thingy
Elicchi_old
They should have like, a warning before you get demoted. It's so notoriously tricky and you dont know when its going to happen. lost 4 straight games while on 0LP in D4 and then get demoted after.
Vulf
I think that is kinda the point.

Problem is warnings can't really be direct because it would cause ladder anxiety. If I knew I was going to be demoted with one more bad game I would just stop playing ranked all together. Not to mention it would make people toxic.

They would have to make it pretty subtle.
Elicchi_old
wait what didn't know you could actually swear here lol. anyway, yeah I see the point. I dont really know how the NA scene works though. Is the toxicity level higher in Diamond there? im curious.
Vulf
Apparently so. D: I'll edit my post. LOL

Diamond players are pretty toxic. Not as much as plats though.
Elicchi_old
LOL you almost got caught there. :lol: anyway, in general, yes. the so called elo heaven is still full of toxic afk'ing trolls. but there's still a small playerbase in the diamond tier that's not. Which is mostly composed of popular D1-D2 atreamers. It's all the same here. maybe just abit worse than NA.
VoidnOwO
:)
Sapphiire_old_1
Apex Turret no longer spawns with a beam charge stored so it can't be dropped for an instant line-nuke. H-28G Evolution Turret and Apex Turret deal less damage.

The 'Dinger's been whomping a little too hard in the early game, so we brought Heimer's overall power level back to a reasonable place while keeping his late game gains. Additionally, the Upgraded!!! Apex Turret changes are meant to emphasize the difference (damage now vs. maximum damage later) between an Upgraded!!! Rocket Storm versus an Upgraded!!! Apex Turret.
Q - H-28G Evolution Turret
CANNON DAMAGE 15/22/29/36/42 (+0.125 ability power) ⇒ 12/18/23/29/34 (+0.150 ability power)
BEAM DAMAGE 50/75/100/125/150 (+0.5 ability power) ⇒ 40/60/80/105/130 (+0.55 ability power)
BEAM COOLDOWN 12 seconds ⇒ 16 seconds
Q - H-28Q Apex Turret
CANNON DAMAGE 90/110/130 (+0.33 ability power) ⇒ 70/90/110 (+0.3 ability power)
BEAM DAMAGE 225/300/375 (+0.8 ability power) ⇒ 180/240/300 (+0.7 ability power)
BEAM CHARGE PER CANNON ATTACK 2/4/6/8/10% ⇒ 20% at all ranks
REMOVEDUTILITY Spawns with a beam charge

Thank God inb4 donger was the new kassadin
Navizel
http://na.leagueoflegends.com/node/13985 shitshitshitshitshitshitshitshitshitshitshitshitshitshitshitshitshitshit yesyesyesyesyesyesyesyesyesyesyesyesyesyesyes
Sapphiire_old_1

Navizel wrote:

http://na.leagueoflegends.com/node/13985 shitshitshitshitshitshitshitshitshitshitshitshitshitshitshitshitshitshit yesyesyesyesyesyesyesyesyesyesyesyesyesyesyes

# Hype :D
Vulf

SoG Tava wrote:

Apex Turret no longer spawns with a beam charge stored so it can't be dropped for an instant line-nuke. H-28G Evolution Turret and Apex Turret deal less damage.

The 'Dinger's been whomping a little too hard in the early game, so we brought Heimer's overall power level back to a reasonable place while keeping his late game gains. Additionally, the Upgraded!!! Apex Turret changes are meant to emphasize the difference (damage now vs. maximum damage later) between an Upgraded!!! Rocket Storm versus an Upgraded!!! Apex Turret.
Q - H-28G Evolution Turret
CANNON DAMAGE 15/22/29/36/42 (+0.125 ability power) ⇒ 12/18/23/29/34 (+0.150 ability power)
BEAM DAMAGE 50/75/100/125/150 (+0.5 ability power) ⇒ 40/60/80/105/130 (+0.55 ability power)
BEAM COOLDOWN 12 seconds ⇒ 16 seconds
Q - H-28Q Apex Turret
CANNON DAMAGE 90/110/130 (+0.33 ability power) ⇒ 70/90/110 (+0.3 ability power)
BEAM DAMAGE 225/300/375 (+0.8 ability power) ⇒ 180/240/300 (+0.7 ability power)
BEAM CHARGE PER CANNON ATTACK 2/4/6/8/10% ⇒ 20% at all ranks
REMOVEDUTILITY Spawns with a beam charge

Thank God inb4 donger was the new kassadin
People forgot why he was nerfed into oblivion to begin with. Honestly I believe Riot nerfed him properly because his early game was a bit dumb.
OzzyOzrock


THIS SHOULDN'T BE FUN ANYMORE. WHY IS IT STILL FUN.
Elicchi_old
Helicopter Hecarim. rofl
Slow
URF Hecarim is nonstop ... very scary ;I
Elicchi_old
http://www.surrenderat20.net/2014/04/43-pbe-update.html Skin particles aren't final yet. looks pretty freakin' awesome.
Aoriki


Can I have a moment of laughter? Everyone over-work Sona so much that they had to remove her. haaaaaah~
VoidnOwO
:oops:
Seph
wtf you can get unavailable skins through Mystery skin? We just finished iGift here and for 500 pesos (around 10 dollars) i got myself around 2.5k (50 dollars) worth of skins, didnt get any unavailable skins though
Vulf
You can get every "legacy" skin through mystery gift afaik.
OzzyOzrock


If ya get rekt by a Skarner, play as Skarner.
Elicchi_old
I had 58RP the whole week. the RP you need for a mystery gift here is 59. fml
OzzyOzrock
I'm 3 away from a mystery skin too haha
tiper

OzzyOzrock wrote:

I'm 3 away from a mystery skin too haha
Ask support to give you 3 RP. They may give you the value that is less than ~30RP once, without paying for it.
Elicchi_old
wut damn. you could do that on the riot servers?
noneed_old
contacting riot support doesn't have to do much with the servers.

they do ask for some silly little drawing or some poem.
Elicchi_old
oh what. There's no such thing like that here in PH. anyway, first game in weeks.
BrokenArrow


People throw so easily on this elo it's pretty funny.
It all started with me getting a double kill bot lane and the enemy starting to flame their jungle Shaco for being useless. From that small advantage things went out of control and Vayne eventually started feeding intentionally. People started flaming harder and harder and basically played like the game was already over since the 8th minute.
In the end, Shaco was the only somewhat useful person in their team.

After that I got this pm:



#justgoldthings
noneed_old
so your enemy either picked vayne blindly or even more stupid, vayne into cait and he still has the nerve to blame his jungler.

sad.
Elicchi_old
lol the Vayne might have been trying to mimic hi im gosu. laning against a cait as any ADC is still pretty much hell though.
scottyyy
I will happily pick Vayne into Cait, even at diamond elo :P
Vulf
I'm kinda sad the new feral flare is probably going to get nerfed into oblivion. Play your Yi, Jax and Warwick jungles while you can.
Blaziken


The first ranked queue game I have ever won... time for me to lose every other one for all of eternity...
and im not even out of my provisionals yet..

I HEED THEIR CALL!

I call their heed?
P r o m i s e s
What is it with ADC's taking heal instead of barrier nowadays?
BrokenArrow
Heal got buffed and is much stronger than barrier after ~lvl 9 now
Renevant
Also, i'm pretty sure heal heals more than ignite does damage, so it can also be taken by supports
exosilver
Did anyone catch the game last night with C9 vs. Team Coast? Talk about a turn around! Meteos' recall juke and backdoor was insane!
Navizel
That one's pretty funny cause ZionSpartan usually splitpushes and backdoors with his Jax. They just got backdoored. lel
exosilver

Navizel wrote:

That one's pretty funny cause ZionSpartan usually splitpushes with his Jax
His Jax was the first ban on C9's side, and for good reason. If any team in the entire LCS is smart, they will never let Zion play Jax again. He's an absolute beast on him. Sure, he got it on the day before against TSM and lost, but it was really, really close.
Elicchi_old
ZionSpartan's Jax and Shiptur's Leblanc. both can carry Coast with 'em. No offense but, Coast is nothing without these 2 solo laners.
TKiller

Vulf wrote:

I'm kinda sad the new feral flare is probably going to get nerfed into oblivion. Play your Yi, Jax and Warwick jungles while you can.
Feral flare is bit op so it's to be expected. The concern is that knowing the balance team, they might take a look at the champions that use wriggle as well and that's be terrible.

What's even more sad that I was kinda shifting towards Yi lately and if he gets caught in the nerfs.. Well there is hope.


Third ranked penta of the season. People throw like they're paid for it. I'm tempted to say "fucking platinum, man" but I know it's the same everywhere.
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