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KSHR

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KSHR 2014-02-25T09:32:55+00:00

Avishay wrote:
[KSHR's Normal]
01:05:450 (1,4) - Stack them properly kk

Muya wrote:
[KSHR's Normal]
00:39:650 (2,3,4,5) - このような配置のほうが綺麗だと思います http://puu.sh/78ELv.jpg fixed!これに合わせてその後の00:41:450 (1,2,3,1) - のパターンもいじりました

Satellite wrote:
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01:06:950 (4) - このスタックは少し危険(?) x404 y136あたりに持ってくるのはどうですか？ギリギリ見えそうかなーっていうのと、個人的に次の(5)でボーカルの「奥深く」に合わせて流れを下から上に持っていきたいから、一度保留で様子見をして何度も指摘を受けるようであれば・・っていう形にさせてください！
01:08:450 (1) - 音に合わせると後ろのほうで曲げたほうが合ってそう。んー、01:08:600 - にも音があるし今の方が合ってると思ったからこのままで
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01:09:950 (2) - 01:09:950 - ここにも音はあるんだけど、フォローしないほうが良さそう？・・・・ん？
01:48:350 (4,5) - ただの配置の提案です。おっけ～
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02:17:450 (1,2,3,4) - Easyと同じ音取りよりHardと同じ音取りにしてバランスを整えたほうが良さそう(?)　実はこれ、Normalのが先に完成したんです・・！　ていうのどうでもいいから置いておいて、fixed（ちょっと怒られそうな配置にしてみた）

Thanks for modding~!

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Title:Towa yori Towa ni
TitleUnicode:永久より永遠に
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Creator:Garven
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Source:少女神域∽少女天獄 -The Garden of Fifth Zoa-
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Last edited by Garven 2014-02-25T14:28:57+00:00, edited 1 time in total.

Garven

osu! Alumni

5,857 posts

Joined January 2010

Topic Starter

Garven 2014-02-25T14:30:59+00:00

kpy:

I've gotten the offset checked by several others including lolcubes - are you sure it's -6? Well, I'll test it later on, but I think it's good where it's at.

And at this BPM, I found 6/4 more fitting to the phrases than 3/4. You'll get less measure bar spam that way haha.

regenz

1,277 posts

Joined November 2009

regenz 2014-02-25T15:33:59+00:00

never heard garven map an eroge song O_o.

kanpakyin

Global Moderator

4,231 posts

Joined June 2010

kanpakyin 2014-02-25T15:55:03+00:00

Garven:
Yea, I testplayed the taiko diff and if you listen to the music carefully, you could hear the metronome cannot fit the drum and hence casuing inaccuracy. (This can be heard from the beginning of the taiko. Just open auto and hear the taiko with current timing.)

JUDYDANNY

1,519 posts

Joined October 2011

JUDYDANNY 2014-02-26T11:08:00+00:00

Hello~ :3
Here's a Taiko Mod via My Taiko Moding Queue (TKSalt posted)

My mod is for suggetions. if you dont like, ignore please.
~Taiko~
d is Red Note.
k is Blue Note.
and, D ,K is finisher .. .
“+ ?” is I like pattern (※example→ add? , remove?
Big text is storong suggestion.

[General]

widescreen support(ry
http://puu.sh/728Ot.png

[Oni]

notes７７７維持とのことでしたのでadd とdeleteとそれ以外と項目別にしました。
もし見にくかったらごめんなさい><

add

00:27:875 - add d ギターのロングトーンを意識するならaddがしっくりくると思いました。
01:11:900 (12) – add note ?

delete
00:40:700 – delete + 00:40:550 – k? やはりdkdで少しブレーキがかかってる気がします。
00:19:250 (13) – delete?

Change color&move
01:08:600 (3) - k ?
ボーカルなら01:08:150 (1,2,3,4) –kdkd=>01:09:050 (2,3,4,5) – kdkk ….
リズムならkdkd=> 01:08:750 (1,2,3,4) - dkdk的で、どちらにもfitする気がしました。
01:34:475 – move1/2 left? kkd~~~ ddk~~ 連打で始まるパターンの統一で勢い付いていい感じ?
02:12:050 – d? かかなり迷いましたが、dでいいと思います。1/1~k k k kはここで用いるのにもかなり苦しい…
02:12:650 – のkと同色リンクさせている意図だと思って話を進めますが、02:10:550 (2,3,4) –　kddとkからの1/2ストリームでリズムを刻ませているので既にプレイヤーには kの意識がある程度ついてると思うので、リンクに縛られるほどの必要性を感じませんでした。

[Muzukashii]

02:11:600 (6) – move => 02:11:000 (4) - …で1度目と同一のリズムでいいと思います。この緩急はあまりfitしてないように感じました、、というよりは緩急がつきすぎてしまってる気がしました。02:15:050 (27,28,29) – こちらで1/1を使っているので同一にする必要も薄いかと.
00:30:800 (98,99,100,101) – ddd k => d kkk この辺だけ聞いたらリズムに違和感が;;
01:12:950 (124) – k?
01:49:400 (285,286) – swap? とかどうでしょうか。

以上です！ Editで見ていてコンボ数調整ってすごく大変そうでした;;; 頑張ってください！>w</
That’s all! I thank you for reading it through

Good Luck!

TKS

Former osu!taiko Champion: 2014

1,380 posts

Joined July 2011

TKS 2014-02-27T11:47:59+00:00

JUDYDANNY wrote:
Hello~ :3
Here's a Taiko Mod via My Taiko Moding Queue (TKSalt posted)

My mod is for suggetions. if you dont like, ignore please.
~Taiko~
d is Red Note.
k is Blue Note.
and, D ,K is finisher .. .
“+ ?” is I like pattern (※example→ add? , remove?
Big text is storong suggestion.

[General]
widescreen support(ry
http://puu.sh/728Ot.png
[Oni]

notes７７７維持とのことでしたのでadd とdeleteとそれ以外と項目別にしました。
もし見にくかったらごめんなさい><

add
00:27:875 - add d ギターのロングトーンを意識するならaddがしっくりくると思いました。 - たしかに
01:11:900 (12) – add note ? - バスの音だけでとどめたいです

delete
00:40:700 – delete + 00:40:550 – k? やはりdkdで少しブレーキがかかってる気がします。 - ピアノの音しか聞こえないのでこのままにします。
00:19:250 (13) – delete? - ok

Change color&move
01:08:600 (3) - k ?
ボーカルなら01:08:150 (1,2,3,4) –kdkd=>01:09:050 (2,3,4,5) – kdkk ….
リズムならkdkd=> 01:08:750 (1,2,3,4) - dkdk的で、どちらにもfitする気がしました。 - たしかに。でもdddから01:09:050 (311,312,313,314,315) - のギター音に入る感じが好きなのでそのままにします。
01:34:475 – move1/2 left? kkd~~~ ddk~~ 連打で始まるパターンの統一で勢い付いていい感じ? - 1/2で左ってどこに動かせばいいんだ…
02:12:050 – d? かかなり迷いましたが、dでいいと思います。1/1~k k k kはここで用いるのにもかなり苦しい… - 元々dです
02:12:650 – のkと同色リンクさせている意図だと思って話を進めますが、02:10:550 (2,3,4) –　kddとkからの1/2ストリームでリズムを刻ませているので既にプレイヤーには kの意識がある程度ついてると思うので、リンクに縛られるほどの必要性を感じませんでした。
[Muzukashii]
02:11:600 (6) – move => 02:11:000 (4) - …で1度目と同一のリズムでいいと思います。この緩急はあまりfitしてないように感じました、、というよりは緩急がつきすぎてしまってる気がしました。02:15:050 (27,28,29) – こちらで1/1を使っているので同一にする必要も薄いかと. - バスの音が強いのでこっちにしました02:10:700 -
00:30:800 (98,99,100,101) – ddd k => d kkk この辺だけ聞いたらリズムに違和感が;; - 別の綺麗な音取りに変えました。
01:12:950 (124) – k? - ここのスネアを強調させたいのでこのままで 01:13:100 (125,126,127) -
01:49:400 (285,286) – swap? とかどうでしょうか。 - ok
以上です！ Editで見ていてコンボ数調整ってすごく大変そうでした;;; 頑張ってください！>w</
That’s all! I thank you for reading it through
Good Luck!

見辛いヂッフでごめんなさい。ありがとうございます。
Circle Sizeも変更　綺麗に並ぶと信じたい

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/263 ... a%20ni.rar

Last edited by Garven 2014-02-28T03:43:45+00:00, edited 1 time in total.

qoot8123

1,500 posts

Joined March 2011

qoot8123 2014-02-28T10:33:59+00:00

Hi Taiko mod :3

Red : unrankable issue
Purple : strongly recommend
Black : just suggestion

[General]

01:35:750 - ~ End you can add spinner on 01:35:750 - and use some speed change to make this map more exciting

[

Muzukashii]

00:12:050 (8) - I think this note could add finish to emphasize the songs power
00:52:100 (35) - move to 00:51:500 - to follow the vocal would be better imo
01:04:250 (93) - add finish? here is more powerful than other part
01:18:650 (148,149,150,151) - this pattern is a bit weird to me ,the rhythm did not link up well,remove finish on 01:18:950 (149) - and add d on 01:19:100 -
01:38:900 (229) - try to add finish? I think it can enhance kiai's power
01:58:100 (332) - ^
01:49:700 (287,288) -and 01:50:000 (289,290) - reverse and 01:50:150 (290) - move to 01:50:300 - would be better for me
02:04:850 (367) - remove and 02:05:225 (369) - remove , since the vocal on 02:04:850 - has a break
02:07:250 (378,379,380,381,382,383) - this pattern is not proper for 02:06:050 (373,374,375,376,377) - ,so try move 02:08:000 (382) -to 02:07:850 -

[

Oni]

00:12:050 (10) - same as muzu, add finish?
00:12:050 (10,203,205,207,211) - as muzu, remove?
01:17:000 (352) - move to 01:17:450 - to follow the similar pattern 01:15:050 (343,344,345,346) -
01:17:600 (355) - move to 01:19:100 - ,01:18:950 (364) - remove finish as i said on muzu and 01:17:900 (356) - remove?
01:43:700 (509,510,511,512,513,514) - although this pattern is no vital problem, but how about use this ? http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/1374238 this is based on k d d k d d k as the pattern 01:45:050 (519,520,521,522,523,524,525,526,527,528) -
01:55:550 - ~ 01:55:700 - try to add note?

That's all from me
Good Luck~

TKS

Former osu!taiko Champion: 2014

1,380 posts

Joined July 2011

TKS 2014-03-01T21:31:52+00:00

qoot8123 wrote:
Hi Taiko mod :3

Red : unrankable issue
Purple : strongly recommend
Black : just suggestion

[General]
01:35:750 - ~ End you can add spinner on 01:35:750 - and use some speed change to make this map more exciting

[ Muzukashii]

02:04:850 (367) - remove and 02:05:225 (369) - remove , since the vocal on 02:04:850 - has a break - deleted 02:05:225 (369)

[ Oni]

00:12:050 (10,203,205,207,211) - as muzu, remove? - ?
That's all from me
Good Luck~

thanks for mod!

onegai shimasu

only Muzu

osu file format v12

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Garven

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Garven 2014-03-02T01:39:58+00:00

kpy: I've gotten a couple more people to say their thoughts on the timing, and I ended up with a +5 and a "spot on"
I think averaging it all out to where it is now works, heh.

Kodora

Kodora 2014-03-02T23:29:05+00:00

As requested

[General]

normal-hitfinish2.mp3 is too loud & sounds too long, which was bothering me while playing. Can you please make it a bit more quiet and shorten if possible?
Easy, KSHR's Normal & Melo's Hard have different combo-colours, any reasons for that?
Disable Letterboxes during breaks in all standard diffs - they doesn't looks well with this bg

[Expert]

00:26:450 (1,2,3) - These spaced 1/4 notes works kinda too crues, especially with this OD - how about reduse spacing here to x0.6? This will made this part much easier to catch in first attempt
00:27:500 (6,8) - Hmm, this overlap isn't looks good, maybe better keep (6) regularly curved? Something like this:

SPOILER
00:28:100 (8,1) - Being a bit nazi but please improve this slider blanket
00:30:200 (6) - NC follow pattern & follow new part in music?
01:00:650 (4,5) - Not sure if this flows well, honestly looks a bit messy. Maybe simple copy 01:00:650 (4) - and make symmetrial pattern here? Something like this - looks better & related with how you mapped before:

SPOILER

01:51:350 (4) - Eh, this slider have one big problem - it is very easy to misread beginning of this slider. Try to move slider head a bit down, this will work much more intuitive & will madfe this slider easier to catch. I tried to improve slider snape, here is screen & code:

SPOILER

222,329,111350,2,0,B|207:323|195:307|196:277|196:277|195:211|145:179|92:190|33:251|99:322|99:322|160:384|80:440|-16:456|-96:336|-104:16|32:-96|176:-128|320:-120|560:-80|512:164|450:354|240:384|10:296|0:160|64:-170|250:-128|456:20|464:72|456:112|456:112,1,1748.24994664765,4|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:

02:11:450 (5,6) - Looks like old catmulls, maybe keep them regularly curved instead? Or you can try something like this - i know, you love such sliders

SPOILER
02:17:900 (3) - Looks like continuation of 1/2 jump section, what can be too evil; trap, especially in the near ending :< Adding some New Combos at 02:17:900 (3) - 02:18:350 (5) - 02:18:800 (7) - can could easily solve this problem.

Good map. Also, i was have no any problems with OD10 while playing - there are only few 1/4 notes and HP Drain is generous enough to allow people keep playing even if they will get several 100's. Please keep it

[Kite's Insane]

*Suggesting use OD9 here for better difficulty spread (since Expert use OD10)

00:09:650 (1) - How about silence this spinner? (except endpoint) Should works pretty nicely for such calm sound imo.
00:17:975 (2) - Delete this note to follow music better?
00:20:300 (7) - Add clap to head? Sounds nice imo.
00:41:225 (2) - This slider is wrongly snapped, should starts at 00:41:150 -
01:01:100 (1,3) - Hmm, form of these sliders looks a bit screwed up :< Using simple linears here looks better as for me.
02:01:550 (7) - Same here
02:21:950 (1) - And probably same goes here too.

Nice job, great & clean diff!

[Cilvery's Insane]

00:31:325 (1) - End of spinner sounds kinda too quiet. Can you please up a bit volume here?
00:36:875 (3) - Delete this note to follow music better? Triplet sounds kinda too heavy at such calm part.
00:37:775 (7) - Same here
00:46:700 (4) - - I think there are should be soft-sampleset for this slidertick, isn't it?
00:47:600 (6) - Remove this note to mach vocals better
01:25:850 (6,1) - You can silence sliderticks at these sliders like Garven did at his diff - sounds better imo.
01:27:650 (3) - Add whistle to emphazire vocals here?
01:31:100 (8) - This slowdown feels a bit confusing here, how about make it a bit more faster? Something like x0.85 should works perfectly here.
01:42:650 (1,2) - Silence endpoints here - sounds better imo. Also, how about add finish to head at 01:42:650 (1) - ?
01:53:450 (1,2,3) - Ah, this antijump looks kinda too evil here and doesn't fit the music well imo :< Try to change this to jump or stack perfectly.
02:04:550 (5) - NC due to spacing change?
02:08:600 (5,6) - There are tiny stacking issue here :p
02:17:450 (1,2,3) - Hmm, plays kinda weird. Try to re-arrange these sliders to follow 2 guitar notes here instead to improve playability.

SPOILER

Awesome diff!

[Melo's Hard]

*You can silence sliderticks during calm sections as Garven did at his diff - they sounds a bit too busy currently

00:56:750 (2,3,4) - Quite tricky stacking, also might be too hard for regular Hard diff. I'd recommend you stack 00:57:500 (4) - with head of 00:57:650 (1) - to make it easier to catch
01:44:750 (1,2,3) - Ew, really might be too cruel jump for a Hard diff - try to stack 01:44:900 (2) - with head of 01:43:850 (1) - you will still have nice jumpy pattern, just less cruel one :p
01:48:650 (1) - Add hitfinish to head to emphazire vocals?
02:13:850 (1,2,3) - <3

Good job Melo-nyan <3

[KSHR's Normal]

*Raise HP Drain by 1 tick for better difficulty spread

00:27:050 (3,4) - Might be too hard to catch for Normal diff. Try something more simple, like following only drums:

SPOILER
00:28:700 (1,2) - Same can be applied here (also, this could help reduse star rating a bit)

SPOILER
00:42:950 - I was expecting note here since you followed vocals before. Or maybe replace 00:42:650 (3) - with slider and end it at 00:42:950 -
01:06:050 (2,3,4) - Kinda weird to follow. Haw about replace this with 3/2 reverse-slider to follow vocals closely?

SPOILER
01:38:450 (4,1) - I would highly recommend avoid such overlaps in lowest diffs - it looks confusing and might works bad for beginners. It is readable, but confusing :<
01:40:850 (5) - Looks bad, try something like this for better flow:

SPOILER

Good diff :3

[Easy]

*Raise AR by 1 tick for better difficulty spread & to improve readability also if you will raise AR OD +1 could work well too

01:42:650 (2,3,4,5) - Kinda intense section for easiest diff. Would highly recommend to replace with two 1/1 sliders to make it more beginner-friendly.
02:01:550 (1,2,3,4,5) - Same here - two 1/1 sliders should works better imo.
02:06:050 - Feels kinda empty, how about add note here?
02:17:450 (1,2,3,4) - Try to replace them with two 3/2 sliders - currently this section feels a bit weird, and replacing notes with sliders here will make rhythm here easier to catch.

Nice.

Star & good luck!

Garven

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Garven 2014-03-03T01:29:17+00:00

Kodora wrote:
As requested

[General]

normal-hitfinish2.mp3 is too loud & sounds too long, which was bothering me while playing. Can you please make it a bit more quiet and shorten if possible? Nooo that's the point! It's loud and awesome and stuff!
Easy, KSHR's Normal & Melo's Hard have different combo-colours, any reasons for that? Ah whoops, I lightened the colors in Extra and forgot to apply it to the rest.
Disable Letterboxes during breaks in all standard diffs - they doesn't looks well with this bg None of the standard diffs have breaks...

[Expert]

00:26:450 (1,2,3) - These spaced 1/4 notes works kinda too crues, especially with this OD - how about reduse spacing here to x0.6? This will made this part much easier to catch in first attempt I don't see it as much of an issue. I increased the spacing a little bit to reduce overlapping, but from the test plays that I have seen, people read them as 1/4 just fine.
00:27:500 (6,8) - Hmm, this overlap isn't looks good, maybe better keep (6) regularly curved? It's not overlapped though! I scooted it back a tiny bit anyway.
00:28:100 (8,1) - Being a bit nazi but please improve this slider blanket It originally was a blanket, but the flow of the outside sliders was too horrible with the one nipple on the outside so I widened things up.
00:30:200 (6) - NC follow pattern & follow new part in music? Nah, keeping with the 2 measures.
01:00:650 (4,5) - Not sure if this flows well, honestly looks a bit messy. Bleh. The sad thing is this is about how I had it before, but it was changed for a mod. I think I'll just revert back to how it was.
01:51:350 (4) - Eh, this slider have one big problem - it is very easy to misread beginning of this slider. Try to move slider head a bit down, this will work much more intuitive & will madfe this slider easier to catch. I tried to improve slider snape, here is screen & code:

I've tweaked this slider sooooo many times hahaha. The problem with your proposition is that it introduces some unnecessary overlap. I tried to widen it a little bit more, but it keeps screwing up the smoothness of the red anchor at 01:51:650 - . So far I haven't had any complaints beyond yours for this iteration of the slider, and I haven't seen test players screw up at all on it (as opposed to other versions where they'd mess up 90% of the time D: )
02:11:450 (5,6) - Looks like old catmulls, maybe keep them regularly curved instead? Or you can try something like this - i know, you love such sliders

I like having the weak curves on this instead of the sharper hooked angle, sorry. The funny thing is that you missed the real catmull slider in this map. Can you find it?
02:17:900 (3) - Looks like continuation of 1/2 jump section, what can be too evil; trap, especially in the near ending :< Adding some New Combos at 02:17:900 (3) - 02:18:350 (5) - 02:18:800 (7) - can could easily solve this problem.

I refuse to add new combos to make a pattern read better. That said, I'm not exactly sure what you mean. You're saying that the stack of two 1/2s and jumping to another stack of 1/2's feels like it's a 1/1 jump instead of a 1/2 jump? I was hoping that the jumpy symmetry sliders would convey that rhythm would be continuing while introducing something a little spicier to keep the play interesting going into the finale. Do yo uhave any suggestions beyond new combos?
Good map. Also, i was have no any problems with OD10 while playing - there are only few 1/4 notes and HP Drain is generous enough to allow people keep playing even if they will get several 100's. Please keep it

Thanks!

[Easy]

*Raise AR by 1 tick for better difficulty spread & to improve readability also if you will raise AR OD +1 could work well too

I've already raised them both once. It's good where it's at.

01:42:650 (2,3,4,5) - Kinda intense section for easiest diff. Would highly recommend to replace with two 1/1 sliders to make it more beginner-friendly.
02:01:550 (1,2,3,4,5) - Same here - two 1/1 sliders should works better imo.
It's the kiai section. I want to ramp up the difficulty a bit.
02:06:050 - Feels kinda empty, how about add note here?
There isn't really a strong beat there. I'd rather not.
02:17:450 (1,2,3,4) - Try to replace them with two 3/2 sliders - currently this section feels a bit weird, and replacing notes with sliders here will make rhythm here easier to catch.
And as the finale, I wanted another spike in difficulty. I think this is fair with the larger spacing so it communicates that there's a different rhythm coming up.
Thanks Kodora!

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Melophobia 2014-03-03T01:34:11+00:00

Kodora wrote:
[Melo's Hard]

*You can silence sliderticks during calm sections as Garven did at his diff - they sounds a bit too busy currently I don't like it. :3

00:56:750 (2,3,4) - Quite tricky stacking, also might be too hard for regular Hard diff. I'd recommend you stack 00:57:500 (4) - with head of 00:57:650 (1) - to make it easier to catch It's no longer a regular hard due to it's speed.
01:44:750 (1,2,3) - Ew, really might be too cruel jump for a Hard diff - try to stack 01:44:900 (2) - with head of 01:43:850 (1) - you will still have nice jumpy pattern, just less cruel one :p Okay!
01:48:650 (1) - Add hitfinish to head to emphazire vocals? hmm no.
02:13:850 (1,2,3) - <3
Good job Melo-nyan <3

Satellite wrote:
[Melo's Hard]
00:29:150 (2,3) - 2から曲調的には伸びているから、そのままスライダーでフォローしたほうが自然(?)かも区切った方がかっこいいかなって思います
00:47:750 (6) - ここのwhistleはいらないと思います。ないとちょっと寂しい・・・
01:12:950 (3,4) - こんな音取りのほうが合うかもしれません、一度試してみてください。単発でドーンってした方が気持ちいいかなーと思ってこんな感じです（この難易度で連打は置いてないので）
01:44:900 (2) - x2.2のジャンプは大きいので1と2を調整してこんな感じにしてみませんか？　ほい
img
01:50:450 (1) - remove Nc?　確かに今のままだとコンボが短くて変だったので周辺のNCも併せて調整して対応しました
02:19:250 (1) - 流れを考えると ctrl + hしたほうが綺麗だと思います。ほい
img

Thanks! http://puu.sh/7gRff.osu

Kodora

Kodora 2014-03-03T06:28:45+00:00

Garven wrote:
The funny thing is that you missed the real catmull slider in this map. Can you find it?

Where? D:

/me gives up x.x

Garv edit:

SPOILER

Cilvery

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Cilvery 2014-03-10T05:42:41+00:00

Avishay wrote:
[Clivery's Insane]
00:26:750 (2, 3) - This is barely readable at all, maybe lift 3 a bit more down? So people will be actually able to tell what is going on there fixed
00:41:150 (1,2) - The spacing here is annoying, either make it bigger, or simply stack them. (00:44:150 (3,4) - or 00:42:950 (7,1) - for example)
01:14:150 (2) - NC? fixed
01:24:050 (3) - Isn't the SV change is too extreme? It is good that it gets slower, but I think it is a bit too much
01:35:150 (1,2) - I think CTRL + G for each one of them will make a more interesting pattern, it just changes the direction but it adds so much

thanks for mod

Cilvery

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Cilvery 2014-03-10T05:50:05+00:00

Muya wrote:
[Cilvery's Insane]
00:29:900 (1) - 00:30:200で終わる形にして、00:30:275にサークルを置く？
01:04:250 (1,2) - この遅いスライダーは01:04:175 (4,1) - のスペーシングとの差が強すぎるので違和感があると思います。なるべく早いスライダーにしたほうがいいのかもしれません
01:14:150 (2) - 01:14:450 (1) - に重ねてしまったほうがいいと思います fixed
01:42:650 (1,1) - 01:43:250 (1) - と同じように終点をsofthitsoundに fixed
02:15:050 (1) - 始点にfinish fixed
02:17:450 - これらは全てfinishがあったほうがいいと思います fixed. 下もすべて追加しました！
02:17:600 -
02:17:900 -
02:18:050 -
02:18:350 -
02:18:500 -
02:18:800 -
02:18:950 -
02:19:850 -
02:19:250 (1) - ここは音楽が無音で歌だけの部分なのでsofthitsoundが合ってると思います fixed

むうやさんモッドあり！

Cilvery

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Cilvery 2014-03-10T05:53:40+00:00

Satellite wrote:
[Cilvery's Insane]
00:30:950 (9,10,11,1) - 少しovermapな感じがしました、以下のような音取りはどうですか？

配置の提案
00:41:150 (1,2) - スペーシングが危険に感じます。00:41:450 (2) - これを 00:41:150 (1) - この上にスタックさせませんか？
00:41:450 (2) - add whistle.　試してみてください。
02:04:850 (1) - 非常に難しいと思います。手前の連打を１つsliderに変更してこのような感じはどうですか？
img

ノーチェンジで。ごめんなさい
モッドありがどうございましたー

Cilvery

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Cilvery 2014-03-10T06:02:58+00:00

Kodora wrote:
[Cilvery's Insane]

00:31:325 (1) - End of spinner sounds kinda too quiet. Can you please up a bit volume here? fixed
00:36:875 (3) - Delete this note to follow music better? Triplet sounds kinda too heavy at such calm part. fixed
00:37:775 (7) - Same here
00:46:700 (4) - - I think there are should be soft-sampleset for this slidertick, isn't it?
00:47:600 (6) - Remove this note to mach vocals better
01:25:850 (6,1) - You can silence sliderticks at these sliders like Garven did at his diff - sounds better imo.
01:27:650 (3) - Add whistle to emphazire vocals here?
01:31:100 (8) - This slowdown feels a bit confusing here, how about make it a bit more faster? Something like x0.85 should works perfectly here.
01:42:650 (1,2) - Silence endpoints here - sounds better imo. Also, how about add finish to head at 01:42:650 (1) - ?
01:53:450 (1,2,3) - Ah, this antijump looks kinda too evil here and doesn't fit the music well imo :< Try to change this to jump or stack perfectly.
02:04:550 (5) - NC due to spacing change? fixed
02:08:600 (5,6) - There are tiny stacking issue here :p
02:17:450 (1,2,3) - Hmm, plays kinda weird. Try to re-arrange these sliders to follow 2 guitar notes here instead to improve playability.

SPOILER

thanks for mod

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DakeDekaane

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DakeDekaane 2014-03-10T08:24:52+00:00

Hi~

Mod as requested by Garven.
Not much to say here, the diffs are really nice (as expected from TK-sama), just a few suggestions :3

[Muzu]
00:25:100 (67,68) - Move (68)1/2 beat forward as a don and change (67) for a kat (The result will be a kkdk dk). This way you'd emphasize better the viola-like? instrument, and the dk would fit nicely with drums. In addition, you can make 00:23:450 (58,59,60,61) a kddk pattern so the last pattern stands out more.
00:27:650 (80,81,82,83,84,85,86) - Move (80) 1/2 beat forward and do something like this. The actual place of (80) feels a bit weird as the drums aren't strong in the downbeat.

00:32:300 - Maybe add a don here? It'd match with the next ddd in 00:33:350.
01:15:050 (131) - I think this would be better 1/2 forward, matching with the actual drums.
01:50:300 (291) - Maybe move this 1/2 beat forward? I think it'd feel better with vocals.
02:04:850 (368) - ^

[Oni]
00:25:100 (86,87) - Inverse these two notes (d k - k d), so you keep the kat on the viola-like? instrument.
00:51:650 (206) - Maybe use a kat here? The change in the music doesn't feel good with all these being dons imo.
01:15:050 (343) - Maybe move this 1/2 forward to follow drums? If you do, maybe add a note more in 01:15:800, it feels good to keep the drums.

Took the freedom to look at the osu! difficulties too, and I got some suggestions for them, feel free to follow or reject this part.

[Easy]
I agree with Kodora in increasing the AR by 1, actual AR could lead to players to hit before time.
I felt in love with this diff.

[KSHR's Normal]
01:32:450 (3) - I think this would play better being a 1/1 slider as it'd be following better the drums.
01:38:450 (4,1) - I'd suggest to use first the 1/1 slider and then the 3/2, this way the player hits along with the strong vocals, it'd be more natural imo.
01:48:650 (5) - This sounds a bit crazy due the speed of the map so feel free to burn this suggestion, but a reverse more in this slider would feel awesome for vocals.
01:55:250 (3) - Same as the first suggestion, a 1/1 slider would play better.
02:10:250 (3,4,5,6) - Just a comment, no need to change anything, just pointing this part felt a bit weird due the guitar being more intense.

[Cilvery's Insane]
00:29:900 - The rhythm here is weird, mostly due the slider ending in a blue tick when it doesn't correspond, try something like this, feels definitely better.

00:36:800 (2,3,7) - Kodora already adressed it but this part is definitely overmapped, just deleting these objects would make this part feel better. (2) may be optional to delete here if you don't want.
00:41:150 (1,2,3) - Spacing here may be a bit misleading as (2,3) is 1/2, but has near 3 times the spacing of (1,2), which is 1/1. You could try something like this or something that fits better your style if you decide to change.

SPOILER

00:58:700 (6) - This would be better as a 1/2 slider, it'd match better with the drum hit in 00:58:850.
01:18:050 (1,2,3,4) - This would feel nice if all 4 had the same length.
01:23:900 (2) - You could remove the finish here, it's a bit noisy imo. In addition, you could add a whistle in the start of 01:24:050 (3).
01:31:100 (8) - This would be better ending in 01:31:400.
01:42:650 (1,2) - This ones would play better being 1/2 sliders.
01:46:250 (1) - ^

I hope this helps too. Good luck everyone /o/

Edit: I forgot to say to make letterboxing consistent in all diffs, in other words, remove them from osu! difficulties.

KSHR

Global Moderator

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Joined July 2010

KSHR 2014-03-10T13:27:54+00:00

Kodora

Kodora wrote:
[KSHR's Normal]

*Raise HP Drain by 1 tick for better difficulty spread kk

00:27:050 (3,4) - Might be too hard to catch for Normal diff. Try something more simple, like following only drums:

It looks like it's not hard to catch, the current rhythm is following only drums. Also I tied your rhythm once, but the current one fits with the song better imo.

00:28:700 (1,2) - Same can be applied here (also, this could help reduse star rating a bit)

^
00:42:950 - I was expecting note here since you followed vocals before. Or maybe replace 00:42:650 (3) - with slider and end it at 00:42:950 -
I don't wanna objects as much as possible since this's the quiet part. Also I didn't mean to follow the vocal here. (Respected the piano)
01:06:050 (2,3,4) - Kinda weird to follow. Haw about replace this with 3/2 reverse-slider to follow vocals closely?

It sounds these notes are following the vocal enough to me.
01:38:450 (4,1) - I would highly recommend avoid such overlaps in lowest diffs - it looks confusing and might works bad for beginners. It is readable, but confusing :<
I would avoid overlaps like this if this mad didn't have the Easy difficulty.
01:40:850 (5) - Looks bad, try something like this for better flow:

It looks like this has the flow similar to the current one.. Well there is a drum sound at 01:41:150 - , so the red way-point should have been made there. Fixed.

Good diff :3 :3

DakeDekaane

DakeDekaane wrote:
[KSHR's Normal]
01:32:450 (3) - I think this would play better being a 1/1 slider as it'd be following better the drums. Agree. Fixed.
01:38:450 (4,1) - I'd suggest to use first the 1/1 slider and then the 3/2, this way the player hits along with the strong vocals, it'd be more natural imo. Sounds good.
01:48:650 (5) - This sounds a bit crazy due the speed of the map so feel free to burn this suggestion, but a reverse more in this slider would feel awesome for vocals. Hmmm..yea, no change lol
01:55:250 (3) - Same as the first suggestion, a 1/1 slider would play better. Same as the first suggestion.
02:10:250 (3,4,5,6) - Just a comment, no need to change anything, just pointing this part felt a bit weird due the guitar being more intense. Keep for now.

>Garven : About letterbox, leave it to you~. And sorry to be late!

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Garven

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Garven 2014-03-10T13:59:39+00:00

Bumped up AR/OD on Easy then. I still feel it's a bit high, but I guess nobody else agrees, hehe.
I guess I'll update the letterboxing later. There aren't any breaks in the standard diffs so it doesn't matter, but people keep bringing it up. :/

TKS

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TKS 2014-03-11T01:53:21+00:00

DakeDekaane wrote:
Hi~

Mod as requested by Garven.
Not much to say here, the diffs are really nice (as expected from TK-sama), just a few suggestions :3

[Muzu]
00:25:100 (67,68) - Move (68)1/2 beat forward as a don and change (67) for a kat (The result will be a kkdk dk). This way you'd emphasize better the viola-like? instrument, and the dk would fit nicely with drums. In addition, you can make 00:23:450 (58,59,60,61) a kddk pattern so the last pattern stands out more. - fixed.
00:27:650 (80,81,82,83,84,85,86) - Move (80) 1/2 beat forward and do something like this. The actual place of (80) feels a bit weird as the drums aren't strong in the downbeat. - sounds good.

00:32:300 - Maybe add a don here? It'd match with the next ddd in 00:33:350. - kept. i want to keep 555 combos lol
01:15:050 (131) - I think this would be better 1/2 forward, matching with the actual drums. - true. but i like a current pattern ;_;
01:50:300 (291) - Maybe move this 1/2 beat forward? I think it'd feel better with vocals. - already.
02:04:850 (368) - ^ - fixed.

[Oni]
00:25:100 (86,87) - Inverse these two notes (d k - k d), so you keep the kat on the viola-like? instrument. - nice :3c
00:51:650 (206) - Maybe use a kat here? The change in the music doesn't feel good with all these being dons imo. - try it.
01:15:050 (343) - Maybe move this 1/2 forward to follow drums? If you do, maybe add a note more in 01:15:800, it feels good to keep the drums. - uuuuuun i want to keep basic 1/1 rhythm.

Took the freedom to look at the osu! difficulties too, and I got some suggestions for them, feel free to follow or reject this part.

I hope this helps too. Good luck everyone /o/

Edit: I forgot to say to make letterboxing consistent in all diffs, in other words, remove them from osu! difficulties.

mod arigatou gozaimasu m(_ _)m
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/263 ... a%20ni.rar

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karterfreak

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karterfreak 2014-03-13T02:35:20+00:00

So I came here expecting to mod something taiko related. I was pleasantly surprised and didn't have to mod anything because both the Muzukashii and Oni are both pretty much perfect, so here's a present before I leave!

Cilvery

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Cilvery 2014-03-13T03:54:24+00:00

DakeDekaane wrote:
[Cilvery's Insane]
00:29:900 - The rhythm here is weird, mostly due the slider ending in a blue tick when it doesn't correspond, try something like this, feels definitely better.

00:36:800 (2,3,7) - Kodora already adressed it but this part is definitely overmapped, just deleting these objects would make this part feel better. (2) may be optional to delete here if you don't want.
00:41:150 (1,2,3) - Spacing here may be a bit misleading as (2,3) is 1/2, but has near 3 times the spacing of (1,2), which is 1/1. You could try something like this or something that fits better your style if you decide to change. changed
SPOILER
00:58:700 (6) - This would be better as a 1/2 slider, it'd match better with the drum hit in 00:58:850.
01:18:050 (1,2,3,4) - This would feel nice if all 4 had the same length.
01:23:900 (2) - You could remove the finish here, it's a bit noisy imo. In addition, you could add a whistle in the start of 01:24:050 (3). fixed
01:31:100 (8) - This would be better ending in 01:31:400.
01:42:650 (1,2) - This ones would play better being 1/2 sliders.
01:46:250 (1) - ^

thanks for mod~

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TKS

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TKS 2014-03-13T07:28:35+00:00

Tasha wrote:
So I came here expecting to mod something taiko related. I was pleasantly surprised and didn't have to mod anything because both the Muzukashii and Oni are both pretty much perfect, so here's a present before I leave!

arigatou gozaimasu m(_ _)m

tutuhaha

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Joined October 2010

tutuhaha 2014-03-13T19:10:31+00:00

[Kite's Insane]
00:26:975 (x) - I think there should have note
00:29:825 (5) - delete
00:44:150 (3) - this rhythm may feel better I think
https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/1414126
01:09:200 (2) - maybe move more close like x328 y164
01:24:050 (2) - try to end at 01:24:500
01:25:850 (1) - same^
01:50:075 (2) - delete

[Melo's Hard]
01:04:250 (1,2) - try exchange the place
02:14:450 (3,4) - try overlap like 02:13:850 (1,2) -

[Cilvery's Insane]
..hmmm....I think too much rhythm you use at the begin
00:51:950 (2) - ctrl+g
01:10:400 (x) -
01:10:700 (x) -
follow the rhythm you use at before, you may have note on this two place
01:46:250 (1,2) - O_O...really？
01:54:050 (1,2,3) - ...this part is uncomfortable in this diff, because you use much rhythm at before then.........

[KSHR's Normal]
you lose something
guess what you lose

video

KSHR

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KSHR 2014-03-14T16:51:22+00:00

tutuhaha wrote:
[KSHR's Normal]
you lose something
guess what you lose Yesterday I overbought hentai games, so..I guess...money?
video Oh shit

Add the video instead of me please, Garven!

Garven

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Garven 2014-03-14T16:53:08+00:00

KSHR wrote:
tutuhaha wrote:
[KSHR's Normal]
you lose something
guess what you lose Yesterday I overbought hentai games, so..I guess...money?
video Oh shit

Add the video instead of me please, Garven!

No such thing as overbuying that!

I thought I added it already... blah.

kanpakyin

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kanpakyin 2014-03-14T16:56:58+00:00

KSHR wrote:
tutuhaha wrote:
[KSHR's Normal]
you lose something
guess what you lose Yesterday I overbought hentai games, so..I guess...money? .......~~明顯你丟了節操~~
video Oh shit

HentaiKSHR

Lissette

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Lissette 2014-03-17T06:13:49+00:00

*Rolls on Garven~

[Expert]
02:14:300 (6) - I feel like this slider should start 1/2 later, adding a note here 02:14:300 -
Meanie diff

[Cilvery's Insane]
00:37:700 (5,6,7) - I dont think the triplet fits here,feels overmapped. Actually this whole section 00:36:350 - until 00:45:650 - feels overmapped to me. It would be cool to start this section with less notes and then adding more notes gradually, to make something like a smooth transition. (Like Expert diff)
01:16:850 (3) - Would play better if you reverse this Ctrl+G
01:46:250 (1) - The end of this slider should land on prev red tick (1/2)

[Kite's Insane]
00:50:750 (2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - Decrease the volume of these a bit, like on Expert and Cilvery's Insane.
01:34:775 (6,7,8,9,10) - Without the stream would sound an play better
01:34:850 (7) - Shouldn't this note be part of the soft timing section (the green line is not snapped on it, so it has normal sound)
01:55:550 (1) - The change of velocity is kinda sudden, try using x1.25 instead
02:04:850 (1,2,3,4,5) - The spacing from 1 to 2, doesn't make sense at all to me if we compared to the rest of the stream.

[Melo's Hard]
00:54:950 (3) - This should land on the red tick
00:27:350 (1) - sounds better if you move it 1/2 earlier

[KSHR's Normal]
01:49:850 (6) - I feel like something is missing around here, try making that note into a 1/2 slider (http://puu.sh/7yxbH.jpg)

[Easy]
00:57:650 (3) - sounds better if you move it 1/2 earlier
01:00:050 (1) - same

Happy face http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/1425760

KSHR

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KSHR 2014-03-17T12:33:40+00:00

Lissette wrote:
[KSHR's Normal]
01:49:850 (6) - I feel like something is missing around here, try making that note into a 1/2 slider (http://puu.sh/7yxbH.jpg)
Agree. But the vocal ends at around 01:50:150 - (also there is the drum sound there too.), made the 1/2 slider instead of the note.
Plus, since the drum sound at 01:50:750 - is lower than the previous one at 01:50:150 - , add the green line to reduce the volume to 50% there.

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Garven

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Garven 2014-03-18T00:39:30+00:00

Lissette wrote:
*Rolls on Garven~

x_x

[Expert]
02:14:300 (6) - I feel like this slider should start 1/2 later, adding a note here 02:14:300 -
That entire section is pretty much guitar-focused since there wasn't any vocal to follow at the start. If I turn and emphasize the vocals in the middle of it, I fear that would be more disruptive changing the voice compared to moving emphasis to the vocals. It also leads to the instrumental focus of the finale of the map
Ice cream girl

[Easy]
00:57:650 (3) - sounds better if you move it 1/2 earlier
01:00:050 (1) - same
In the original design, they were in that spot, but I felt that kind of rhythm change wasn't easily communicated with the sliders and spacing at that point. I kept it to the larger gap that is much easier to spot visually and since the rhythm is led in with that same visual, it should be easier to read.

Happy face http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/1425760

Cleft lip face https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/1428532

Thanks for checking!

Edit:

Kite's updated.

"took on the mods
didnt apply most of the suggestions they had though"

Pururut

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Pururut 2014-03-18T01:13:22+00:00

wow
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Melophobia 2014-03-20T14:07:10+00:00

Sorry but no change I like my own rhythm better.

Cilvery

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Cilvery 2014-03-23T16:21:14+00:00

Lissette wrote:
[Cilvery's Insane]
00:37:700 (5,6,7) - I dont think the triplet fits here,feels overmapped. Actually this whole section 00:36:350 - until 00:45:650 - feels overmapped to me. It would be cool to start this section with less notes and then adding more notes gradually, to make something like a smooth transition. (Like Expert diff)
01:16:850 (3) - Would play better if you reverse this Ctrl+G
01:46:250 (1) - The end of this slider should land on prev red tick (1/2) fixed

thanks for mod :3

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Lissette

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Lissette 2014-03-25T01:38:24+00:00

After lil IRC mod~

Bubbled~

BeatofIke

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BeatofIke 2014-03-25T01:58:17+00:00

You have a silenced drum-sliderslide and drum-slidertick. I believe that's unrankable (unless that changed)! o.o

Ranking Criteria wrote:
Hitsounds from notes and sliders must be audible. These provide feedback for the player, and having them silent in a rhythm game doesn't make much sense. If you don't like the default sounds, then find replacements rather than silencing notes. You can use hitsounds from the Custom Hitsound Library or easily find others online. Lowering the volume of a few notes to provide a dampened effect is usually fine, but complete silence is always unacceptable. The end of a spinner (or even the entire spinner) the sliding sound of a slider, and the end of a slider can be silent, but only do it if it makes sense. Finally, you cannot silence both slider ticks and slider slides together.

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Garven 2014-03-25T02:04:24+00:00

It's only done in short instances (such as converting the tick rate to 1 to fit the time signature change). It's allowed.

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BeatofIke 2014-03-25T02:06:40+00:00

Okay then. Ranked~

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Garven 2014-03-25T02:15:58+00:00

Dayum you work fast. Thanks!

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Ozato Fumika 2014-03-25T02:16:17+00:00

Gentleman Garven gratz!

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