I don't have a read on bubba. I have very little experiential meta with him, and only one game where I was around for the RVS phase. I'll probably meta some early game-phases tonight. He seems pretty jocular and bubbly, which could be nervousness. And nervousness could be about playing on a new site with a bunch of unknowns. Or not.pieguy1372 wrote:
majority lynch is really rare here and I can only think of a few games that had it. afaik it's never happened beforefferyllt wrote:
I think I see the reasoning for the townread. I don't know that plurality lynch is better for town in general. Do deadline-based no-lynches happen frequently here?
what's your read on bubba?
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this is the best sentence to prevent reaction fishingNoHitter wrote:
We should all bring someone to L-1 to fish for reactions.
don't worry i have no read on anyonefferyllt wrote:
I don't have a read on bubba
but i don't like your post at all
welcome to feryland.Sephibro wrote:
don't worry i have no read on anyonefferyllt wrote:
I don't have a read on bubba
but i don't like your post at all
Like I said, I think his bloodthirst is interesting, but others have pointed out that it's osu style, so perhaps you're townreading him for the reason I'm scum reading him.pieguy1372 wrote:
what's your current read on NH? why do you think I'm townreading him?bubbajack8 wrote:
Curious.
Vote: Ragin Bull
>softs with like no votes.
NO hitter you should answer my question instead of more bloodthirst.
Vote: Raging Bull
This vote is already serious, you should know why.
This vote is already serious, you should know why.
Aw shit you guys suck.
What do you mean soft with like no votes?
What do you mean soft with like no votes?
the wagon wat
You're saying that while voting for quite possibly the most town person here right now.Sephibro wrote:
rb's wagon is super bad
that's actually a random vote, but it still feels better than RB
Topic Starter
You hear some static in the speakers.
"Hi girls, I just wanted to let you know that i we just got more of that legendary item that lets you talk to people that have the same type of item, i think they call them Cell Phones, oh and also we have updated the vote tally as you can see on-screen"
Please let me know if you see any mistakes.
Nyquill is V/LA through Monday.
"Hi girls, I just wanted to let you know that i we just got more of that legendary item that lets you talk to people that have the same type of item, i think they call them Cell Phones, oh and also we have updated the vote tally as you can see on-screen"
Raging Bull (4) - Navizel, CalignoBot, bubbajack8, DakeDekaane
Bubbajack8 (3) - Sephibro, pieguy1372, GuyInFreezer
Sephibro (1) - Tanzklaue
Not Voting - NoHitter, Nyquill, fferyllt, Raging Bull
With 13 votes in play, it takes 7 to lynch
Bubbajack8 (3) - Sephibro, pieguy1372, GuyInFreezer
Sephibro (1) - Tanzklaue
Not Voting - NoHitter, Nyquill, fferyllt, Raging Bull
With 13 votes in play, it takes 7 to lynch
Please let me know if you see any mistakes.
Nyquill is V/LA through Monday.
Last time you said this you were scum thoughfferyllt wrote:
welcome to feryland.
^Scum.Sephibro wrote:
that's actually a random vote, but it still feels better than RB
I said that in my first post, so that's nothing new.
If this was true, I would've been a third party lolRaging Bull wrote:
@mod Roles are non alignment indicative are they?
sum1 make ISOs pls.
RB why are you softly outing with just one vote? Why would we lynch a less important PR? Would you care if it's town as long as you're not lynched?
Don't make me children cry pls.
RB why are you softly outing with just one vote? Why would we lynch a less important PR? Would you care if it's town as long as you're not lynched?
Don't make me children cry pls.
Topic Starter
I knew i was forgetting something...DakeDekaane wrote:
sum1 make ISOs pls.
Also Kurumi is much better than what pieguy is claiming to be.
DakeDekaane wrote:
sum1 make ISOs pls.
RB why are you softly outing with just one vote? Why would we lynch a less important PR? Would you care if it's town as long as you're not lynched?
Don't make me children cry pls.
oh that's what it meant.
of course I care. That's why I should not get lynched.
massclaim d1.
Discuss.
Discuss.
Topic Starter
Mannosuke speaks through the speaker.
"Hi girls we would like to inform you that we are recording what you are saying, if you want to listen to each person's individual speeches in isolation please pick the recorder with their appropiate name, thanks!"
ISOs have been added to the OP because i forgot to do that earlier, derp
"Hi girls we would like to inform you that we are recording what you are saying, if you want to listen to each person's individual speeches in isolation please pick the recorder with their appropiate name, thanks!"
ISOs have been added to the OP because i forgot to do that earlier, derp
don't know if mc is good since there are a lot of people to choose from and fakeclaim from that.
pure shitGuyInFreezer wrote:
massclaim d1.
Discuss.
nl d1
don't discuss, do it
Topic Starter
bump
Topic Starter
Mannosuke speaks again
"By the way we will like to let you know that we've been listening to your suggestions and we've decided to throw a suggestions box for this purpose, if you prefer a plurality lynch please drop a vote for that, if you prefer majority lynch please drop a vote for that. Oh also here's the most up to date vote tally.
Please let me know if you see any mistakes.
Nyquill is V/LA through Monday.
Please PM me whether you'd prefer plurality or majority lynch and I'll follow the one with the most votes.
"By the way we will like to let you know that we've been listening to your suggestions and we've decided to throw a suggestions box for this purpose, if you prefer a plurality lynch please drop a vote for that, if you prefer majority lynch please drop a vote for that. Oh also here's the most up to date vote tally.
Raging Bull (4) - Navizel, CalignoBot, bubbajack8, DakeDekaane
Bubbajack8 (3) - Sephibro, pieguy1372, GuyInFreezer
Sephibro (1) - Tanzklaue
Not Voting - NoHitter, Nyquill, fferyllt, Raging Bull
Bubbajack8 (3) - Sephibro, pieguy1372, GuyInFreezer
Sephibro (1) - Tanzklaue
Not Voting - NoHitter, Nyquill, fferyllt, Raging Bull
Please let me know if you see any mistakes.
Nyquill is V/LA through Monday.
Please PM me whether you'd prefer plurality or majority lynch and I'll follow the one with the most votes.
wow RB, you know you could've just try to town up, but the fact you care about the votes on you makes me feel a bit better.
Unvote
I'm not sure about the massclaim, I'm not the kind of person who relies a lot on PRs, but it'd be better if we keep certain roles in the anonymity.
It's still early D1, don't go for an instant NL.
Unvote
I'm not sure about the massclaim, I'm not the kind of person who relies a lot on PRs, but it'd be better if we keep certain roles in the anonymity.
It's still early D1, don't go for an instant NL.
Why would you soft any role when you aren't being voted.Raging Bull wrote:
Aw shit you guys suck.
What do you mean soft with like no votes?
pretty bars
CalignoBot: |XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX|
DakeDekaane:|XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX|
Navizel:|XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX|
NoHitter:|XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX|
Nyquill:|XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX|
Raging Bull:|XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX|
Sephibro:|XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX|
Tanzklaue:|XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX|
bubbajack8:|XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX|
fferyllt:|XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX|
pieguy1372:|XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX|
DakeDekaane:
Navizel:
NoHitter:
Nyquill:
Raging Bull:
Sephibro:
Tanzklaue:
bubbajack8:
fferyllt:
pieguy1372:
obviously we don't go for instant NL, but we'll NL eventually
it's pretty high for the V/LA guyGuyInFreezer wrote:
Nyquill:|XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX|
It has little to do with my actual reads.
It's more of "who do I wanna see this person dead the most at this point"
(a.k.a. I haven't thought about the good place for null-zone bar)
Thanks to you I realized that I put it higher than bubba. It should be lower than bubba.
Lemme fix that.
Lemme fix that.
pretty bars 2
CalignoBot: |XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX|
DakeDekaane:|XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX|
Navizel:|XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX|
NoHitter:|XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX|
Nyquill:|XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX|
Raging Bull:|XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX|
Sephibro:|XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX|
Tanzklaue:|XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX|
bubbajack8:|XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX|
fferyllt:|XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX|
pieguy1372:|XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX|
DakeDekaane:
Navizel:
NoHitter:
Nyquill:
Raging Bull:
Sephibro:
Tanzklaue:
bubbajack8:
fferyllt:
pieguy1372:
There you go
still nyquill's bar is pretty full for one who hasn't posted anything yet
Hmm, actually I do like an explanation on why it is bad.bubbajack8 wrote:
Why would you soft any role when you aren't being voted.
I was going to explain why, but rereading my PM made me realize it was a bad idea.
Why would you immediately revert to using your role as a shield the moment you get pressure on you anyway?
If you honestly think that I would do that as scum after playing for this long, then ok.
Raging Bull wrote:
I was going to explain why, but rereading my PM made me realize it was a bad idea.
Because NyquillSephibro wrote:
still nyquill's bar is pretty full for one who hasn't posted anything yet
And thus I make sure it doesn't become a town tell.GuyInFreezer wrote:
Last time you said this you were scum thoughfferyllt wrote:
welcome to feryland.
Why?Sephibro wrote:
pure shitGuyInFreezer wrote:
massclaim d1.
Discuss.
nl d1
don't discuss, do it
So would you be kind to explain what I did was bad?
No idea currently.
Vote: bubba
Also, what question? o.O
Also, what question? o.O
NH is your avatar a soft claim? ;o
Nah. I don't think Rinnosuke was even in the character list, was he?
Besides, Rinnosuke is the "moderator" of the game -_-
i jest, i jest.
1. There's no pressure on you. Makes you look like scared scum.Raging Bull wrote:
Hmm, actually I do like an explanation on why it is bad.bubbajack8 wrote:
Why would you soft any role when you aren't being voted.
I was going to explain why, but rereading my PM made me realize it was a bad idea.
2. If you were actually town it makes you a night target.
3. There's no town reason to soft a role that blatantly.
Why do you want a plurality lynch system.NoHitter wrote:
Vote: bubba
Also, what question? o.O
Because the forum's generally inactive. We used to do plurality lynches before. I admit that the hammer only system increases activity, but not enough. The compromise of lynching if the target is at least L-1 fits better.
yea, also plurality lynch gives scum less insentive to just sit back and do nothing.
Activity is not an issue there, but the TeamLiquid site's mafia community uses a hybrid lynch mechanic. Achieve majority before deadline and the game day ends with a majority lynch. If it doesn't, then the player with the most votes at the end of the day is lynched.NoHitter wrote:
Because the forum's generally inactive. We used to do plurality lynches before. I admit that the hammer only system increases activity, but not enough. The compromise of lynching if the target is at least L-1 fits better.
And with that, especially if we're going with plurality lynch there's info about my role that town should be aware of.
I'm a double voter.
that's what we used to do around here aswell and what NH means with plurality lynch.fferyllt wrote:
Activity is not an issue there, but the TeamLiquid site's mafia community uses a hybrid lynch mechanic. Achieve majority before deadline and the game day ends with a majority lynch. If it doesn't, then the player with the most votes at the end of the day is lynched.NoHitter wrote:
Because the forum's generally inactive. We used to do plurality lynches before. I admit that the hammer only system increases activity, but not enough. The compromise of lynching if the target is at least L-1 fits better.
Town points for ffery for claiming doublevoter.
I'd be a fool to lie about it.Sephibro wrote:
confirm your double vote you fool
VOTE: GiF
2nd VOTE: fferyllt
Topic Starter
Mannosuke speaks again:
"Currently the vote tally for plurality vs majority is 50/50, also here's an updated vote count on screen... is it just me or the ammount of people increased... ah well doesn't matter."
Nyquill will be prodded at midnight if he hasn't posted by then.
"Currently the vote tally for plurality vs majority is 50/50, also here's an updated vote count on screen... is it just me or the ammount of people increased... ah well doesn't matter."
Raging Bull (4) - Navizel, CalignoBot, bubbajack8, DakeDekaane
Bubbajack8 (4) - Sephibro, pieguy1372, GuyInFreezer, NoHitter
Sephibro (1) - Tanzklaue
GuyInFreezer (1) - fferyllt
fferyllt (1) - fferyllt
Not Voting - Nyquill, Raging Bull
With 13 votes in play it takes 7 to lynch
Bubbajack8 (4) - Sephibro, pieguy1372, GuyInFreezer, NoHitter
Sephibro (1) - Tanzklaue
GuyInFreezer (1) - fferyllt
fferyllt (1) - fferyllt
Not Voting - Nyquill, Raging Bull
With 13 votes in play it takes 7 to lynch
Nyquill will be prodded at midnight if he hasn't posted by then.
Why are people even voting for bubbajack again?
No, because now you put me up for lynch.
And if that makes me look town because of my soft claim, then then its counter intuitive to vote for me.
3 Ok then. Also my fault since I reread my pm when I was going to explain and I cannot do what I wanted to do.
so it looks like im scared scum when i only had one vote on me. That's bullshit. Granted you don't know my meta, but I never considered one vote to be actual pressure.bubbajack8 wrote:
1. There's no pressure on you. Makes you look like scared scum.
2. If you were actually town it makes you a night target.
3. There's no town reason to soft a role that blatantly.
And if that makes me look town because of my soft claim, then then its counter intuitive to vote for me.
3 Ok then. Also my fault since I reread my pm when I was going to explain and I cannot do what I wanted to do.
also everybody who's town please vote the majority lynch thanks
Tanzklaue wrote:
yea, also plurality lynch gives scum less insentive to just sit back and do nothing.
??Sephibro wrote:
also everybody who's town please vote the majority lynch thanks
Unvote
yu gay oh, went 5-1/9 before dropping because I needed to do something. Pretty good record for first regionals I'd say haha.Tanzklaue wrote:
which card game?Nyquill wrote:
Hi v/la until Monday, children's card games tournament.
Will read.
why would plurality lynch give scum less incentive lurk? Lurking is probably what they'd want to do if a lynch is happening towards town without a hammer.
fferyllt wrote:
??Sephibro wrote:
also everybody who's town please vote the majority lynch thanks
Sakura wrote:
Please PM me whether you'd prefer plurality or majority lynch and I'll follow the one with the most votes.
I need to dial back the cryptic.Sephibro wrote:
fferyllt wrote:
??Sakura wrote:
Please PM me whether you'd prefer plurality or majority lynch and I'll follow the one with the most votes.
My question was "why do you two have such strongly different opinions about whether majority lynch is good/bad here?" Tanz gives some indication for his position. I don't know what yours is.
I have some biases from offsite play, but I want to understand the pros and cons HERE before I decide how to vote.
Also, a limit of 2 embedded quotes is seriously cramping my style.
Why notfferyllt wrote:
GiF why do you think bubbajack is scum?
Also the last few pages have been useless.
oh
imo tanzklaue wanted to say the opposite
imo tanzklaue wanted to say the opposite
Tanzklaue wrote:
yea, also plurality lynch gives scumlessMORE insentive to just sit back and do nothing.
and this is the scum QT of that game where we talked about abusing the plurality lynch http://www.quicktopic.com/50/H/KA3ghGkDdmQEU
Why are you guys voting bubba?
im just saying that with plurality lynch mafia can just sit there and do nothing, if they need to achieve majority for a lynch they can't lurk until deadline
My god can we talk something other than this plurality/majority shit
it does nothing to move the game forward
it does nothing to move the game forward
Says the guy who doesn't want to talk about why he's voting the guy he's voting.GuyInFreezer wrote:
My god can we talk something other than this plurality/majority shit
it does nothing to move the game forward
FOS: NoHitter
FOS: Sephibro
calling fferylt town for claiming double-voter reeks.
FOS: Sephibro
calling fferylt town for claiming double-voter reeks.
CalignoBot wrote:
calling fferylt town for claiming double-voter reeks.
Sephibro wrote:
confirm your double vote you fool
fferyllt wrote:
VOTE: GiF
2nd VOTE: fferyllt
here's a consideration i made in Touhou V mafiaSakura wrote:
GuyInFreezer (1) - fferyllt
fferyllt (1) - fferyllt
do you need further explanation Caligno or is it clear enough?Sephibro wrote:
ok let's talk about doublevoter role
we recently had a game where there was a town doublevoter (rEdo) and a scum doublevoter (CalignoBot) (multiball)
there were 2 big differences between these 2 roles:
1. town dv has to post his second vote on topic, as if it was a normal vote, while scum dv could post it by pm to the mod
2. town dv appeared with his name in the votecount for both his votes, while the second vote of scum dv was anonymous
We all know I'm avoiding this question on purposefferyllt wrote:
Says the guy who doesn't want to talk about why he's voting the guy he's voting.GuyInFreezer wrote:
My god can we talk something other than this plurality/majority shit
it does nothing to move the game forward
Topic Starter
"Hi girls, its me again, just wanted to let you know that currently the majority vs plurality voting is 75/25, also i've updated the vote tally and have put it onscreen.
Please let me know if you see any mistakes
Raging Bull (3) - CalignoBot, bubbajack8, DakeDekaane
Bubbajack8 (3) - pieguy1372, GuyInFreezer, NoHitter
Sephibro (1) - Tanzklaue
Not Voting - Nyquill, Raging Bull, fferyllt, Sephibro, Navizel
With 13 votes in play it takes 7 to lynch
Bubbajack8 (3) - pieguy1372, GuyInFreezer, NoHitter
Sephibro (1) - Tanzklaue
Not Voting - Nyquill, Raging Bull, fferyllt, Sephibro, Navizel
With 13 votes in play it takes 7 to lynch
Please let me know if you see any mistakes
Dat no pagetop
Yeah. You forgot the part where roles were given before alignments.Sephibro wrote:
CalignoBot wrote:
calling fferylt town for claiming double-voter reeks.Sephibro wrote:
confirm your double vote you foolfferyllt wrote:
VOTE: GiF
2nd VOTE: fferyllthere's a consideration i made in Touhou V mafiaSakura wrote:
GuyInFreezer (1) - fferyllt
fferyllt (1) - fferylltdo you need further explanation Caligno or is it clear enough?Sephibro wrote:
ok let's talk about doublevoter role
we recently had a game where there was a town doublevoter (rEdo) and a scum doublevoter (CalignoBot) (multiball)
there were 2 big differences between these 2 roles:
1. town dv has to post his second vote on topic, as if it was a normal vote, while scum dv could post it by pm to the mod
2. town dv appeared with his name in the votecount for both his votes, while the second vote of scum dv was anonymous
Something about GiF makes me think he's town. But why do you want to see bubba dead the most?
Also in the DotA small town, scum was double voter. I don't think we had to post in QT to vote. Maybe all roles were revealed, but I think it's almost the same here since roles are not alignment indicative.
Hmm
let's flashwagon navizel for lulz (and for that newb mafia game)
vote: Navizel
let's flashwagon navizel for lulz (and for that newb mafia game)
vote: Navizel
I'm townreading him not because he's a doublevoter alone, but because he claimed doublevoter on D1.
Scum doublevoter would want to hide being a doublevoter until the last moment.
Scum doublevoter would want to hide being a doublevoter until the last moment.
How does claiming on D1 mean they won't be able to use it for scum-benefiting reasons? Hiding the double vote until the last moment is giving up a powerful role for your team for the ability to scumclaim later by suddenly bringing it out.
your bars are full of shit.
also that^
btw where is it said that roles are chosen before alignment - that's just stupid if you ask me
btw where is it said that roles are chosen before alignment - that's just stupid if you ask me