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Raging Bull
Pieguy not flandre. Discuss.




Well not really.

And the reason im guessing for nh wanting to change it is because the forum isnt that active
bubbajack8

pieguy1372 wrote:

I knew I was >>>fated<<< to get this character

vote: bubba

legit townread on NH. discuss
Curious.

fferyllt wrote:

bubbajack8 wrote:

Confirm

vote: ffery This slot's scum like 80% of the time. But for real look at her post. "Hi guys"

"Hi guys"? No votes? What a diabolical scum.

UNvote

Just pulling your chain ffery... Don't bite me.

I should do some mass trickery on gif now... <3

NoHitter Why plurality? You really want to kill people huh?
I wait in vain for someone to outdo this case.
That's legit! And it's GiF! But they were mafia ): and you were town. :O

GuyInFreezer wrote:

Sephibro wrote:

vote: bubbajack
^
Bus vote

vote: bubba
What's funny is I actually thought about voting you before you voted me..

Raging Bull wrote:

Pieguy not flandre. Discuss.




Well not really.

And the reason im guessing for nh wanting to change it is because the forum isnt that active
That might make sense. I want to hear their reasons as this is obviously my first OSU mafia game...
DakeDekaane
Come on pieguy, almost everyone knows who you are, no need to out it too much, except for new people, so RB may be right.
Raging Bull
@mod Roles are non alignment indicative are they?
Raging Bull
as in anyone can be maf or town?
Raging Bull
Also town reading people on bubbajack wagon. As stupid as it may be.
Topic Starter
Sakura

Raging Bull wrote:

@mod Roles are non alignment indicative are they?
Roles were rolled before Alignment, neither role nor flavor can be used to determine alignment.
Nyquill
Hi v/la until Monday, children's card games tournament.
Tanzklaue

Nyquill wrote:

Hi v/la until Monday, children's card games tournament.
which card game?
pieguyn

fferyllt wrote:

I think I see the reasoning for the townread. I don't know that plurality lynch is better for town in general. Do deadline-based no-lynches happen frequently here?
majority lynch is really rare here and I can only think of a few games that had it. afaik it's never happened before

what's your read on bubba?


DakeDekaane wrote:

Come on pieguy, almost everyone knows who you are, no need to out it too much, except for new people, so RB may be right.
yeah but the thing with this was I specifically told Sakura to pick one randomly from my list
AND I STILL GOT HER
it has to be fate. there is no other explanation
pieguyn

bubbajack8 wrote:

Curious.
what's your current read on NH? why do you think I'm townreading him?
Amianki
Unvote
Vote: Raging Bull
Raging Bull
hi, please vote someone with a role that doesn't help town instead of me.
Amianki
Unvote
Vote: Raging Bull

Am I doing it right?
Raging Bull
Nope. I suppose you should check up on this thread.
Topic Starter
Sakura
Bubbajack8 (3) - Sephibro, pieguy1372, GuyInFreezer
Raging Bull (2) - Navizel, CalignoBot
Sephibro (1) - Tanzklaue
Nyquill (1) - DakeDekaane

Not Voting - NoHitter, Nyquill, fferyllt, bubbajack8, Raging Bull

With 13 votes in play it takes 7 to lynch

Nyquill is V/LA through Monday.
GuyInFreezer
Pdodge
NoHitter
We should all bring someone to L-1 to fish for reactions.
fferyllt

pieguy1372 wrote:

fferyllt wrote:

I think I see the reasoning for the townread. I don't know that plurality lynch is better for town in general. Do deadline-based no-lynches happen frequently here?
majority lynch is really rare here and I can only think of a few games that had it. afaik it's never happened before

what's your read on bubba?
I don't have a read on bubba. I have very little experiential meta with him, and only one game where I was around for the RVS phase. I'll probably meta some early game-phases tonight. He seems pretty jocular and bubbly, which could be nervousness. And nervousness could be about playing on a new site with a bunch of unknowns. Or not.
Sephibro

NoHitter wrote:

We should all bring someone to L-1 to fish for reactions.
this is the best sentence to prevent reaction fishing
Sephibro

fferyllt wrote:

I don't have a read on bubba
don't worry i have no read on anyone

but i don't like your post at all
fferyllt

Sephibro wrote:

fferyllt wrote:

I don't have a read on bubba
don't worry i have no read on anyone

but i don't like your post at all
welcome to feryland.
bubbajack8

pieguy1372 wrote:

bubbajack8 wrote:

Curious.
what's your current read on NH? why do you think I'm townreading him?
Like I said, I think his bloodthirst is interesting, but others have pointed out that it's osu style, so perhaps you're townreading him for the reason I'm scum reading him.

Vote: Ragin Bull

>softs with like no votes.

NO hitter you should answer my question instead of more bloodthirst.
DakeDekaane
Vote: Raging Bull
This vote is already serious, you should know why.
Amianki
Bubbajack wagon is bad.
Raging Bull
Aw shit you guys suck.


What do you mean soft with like no votes?
Sephibro
rb's wagon is super bad
Navizel
the wagon wat
Amianki

Sephibro wrote:

rb's wagon is super bad
You're saying that while voting for quite possibly the most town person here right now.
Sephibro
that's actually a random vote, but it still feels better than RB
Topic Starter
Sakura
You hear some static in the speakers.
"Hi girls, I just wanted to let you know that i we just got more of that legendary item that lets you talk to people that have the same type of item, i think they call them Cell Phones, oh and also we have updated the vote tally as you can see on-screen"

Raging Bull (4) - Navizel, CalignoBot, bubbajack8, DakeDekaane
Bubbajack8 (3) - Sephibro, pieguy1372, GuyInFreezer
Sephibro (1) - Tanzklaue

Not Voting - NoHitter, Nyquill, fferyllt, Raging Bull

With 13 votes in play, it takes 7 to lynch

Please let me know if you see any mistakes.

Nyquill is V/LA through Monday.
GuyInFreezer

fferyllt wrote:

welcome to feryland.
Last time you said this you were scum though
Amianki

Sephibro wrote:

that's actually a random vote, but it still feels better than RB
^Scum.
GuyInFreezer
I said that in my first post, so that's nothing new.
GuyInFreezer

Raging Bull wrote:

@mod Roles are non alignment indicative are they?
If this was true, I would've been a third party lol
DakeDekaane
sum1 make ISOs pls.

RB why are you softly outing with just one vote? Why would we lynch a less important PR? Would you care if it's town as long as you're not lynched?
Don't make me children cry pls.
Topic Starter
Sakura

DakeDekaane wrote:

sum1 make ISOs pls.
I knew i was forgetting something...
GuyInFreezer
Also Kurumi is much better than what pieguy is claiming to be.
Raging Bull

DakeDekaane wrote:

sum1 make ISOs pls.

RB why are you softly outing with just one vote? Why would we lynch a less important PR? Would you care if it's town as long as you're not lynched?
Don't make me children cry pls.

oh that's what it meant.

of course I care. That's why I should not get lynched.
GuyInFreezer
massclaim d1.
Discuss.
Topic Starter
Sakura
Mannosuke speaks through the speaker.
"Hi girls we would like to inform you that we are recording what you are saying, if you want to listen to each person's individual speeches in isolation please pick the recorder with their appropiate name, thanks!"

ISOs have been added to the OP because i forgot to do that earlier, derp
Raging Bull
don't know if mc is good since there are a lot of people to choose from and fakeclaim from that.
Sephibro

GuyInFreezer wrote:

massclaim d1.
Discuss.
pure shit

nl d1
don't discuss, do it
Topic Starter
Sakura
bump
Topic Starter
Sakura
Mannosuke speaks again
"By the way we will like to let you know that we've been listening to your suggestions and we've decided to throw a suggestions box for this purpose, if you prefer a plurality lynch please drop a vote for that, if you prefer majority lynch please drop a vote for that. Oh also here's the most up to date vote tally.

Raging Bull (4) - Navizel, CalignoBot, bubbajack8, DakeDekaane
Bubbajack8 (3) - Sephibro, pieguy1372, GuyInFreezer
Sephibro (1) - Tanzklaue

Not Voting - NoHitter, Nyquill, fferyllt, Raging Bull

Please let me know if you see any mistakes.

Nyquill is V/LA through Monday.

Please PM me whether you'd prefer plurality or majority lynch and I'll follow the one with the most votes.
DakeDekaane
wow RB, you know you could've just try to town up, but the fact you care about the votes on you makes me feel a bit better.
Unvote

I'm not sure about the massclaim, I'm not the kind of person who relies a lot on PRs, but it'd be better if we keep certain roles in the anonymity.
It's still early D1, don't go for an instant NL.
bubbajack8

Raging Bull wrote:

Aw shit you guys suck.


What do you mean soft with like no votes?
Why would you soft any role when you aren't being voted.
GuyInFreezer
pretty bars
CalignoBot:
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DakeDekaane:
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Navizel:
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NoHitter:
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Nyquill:
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Raging Bull:
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Sephibro:
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Tanzklaue:
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bubbajack8:
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fferyllt:
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pieguy1372:
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Sephibro
obviously we don't go for instant NL, but we'll NL eventually
Sephibro

GuyInFreezer wrote:

Nyquill:
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it's pretty high for the V/LA guy
GuyInFreezer
It has little to do with my actual reads.
Sephibro
what does it have to do with then?
GuyInFreezer
It's more of "who do I wanna see this person dead the most at this point"
GuyInFreezer
(a.k.a. I haven't thought about the good place for null-zone bar)
Sephibro
and why is it so high for nyquill?
GuyInFreezer
Thanks to you I realized that I put it higher than bubba. It should be lower than bubba.
Lemme fix that.
GuyInFreezer
pretty bars 2
CalignoBot:
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DakeDekaane:
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Navizel:
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NoHitter:
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Nyquill:
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Raging Bull:
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Sephibro:
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Tanzklaue:
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bubbajack8:
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fferyllt:
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pieguy1372:
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There you go
Sephibro
still nyquill's bar is pretty full for one who hasn't posted anything yet
Raging Bull

bubbajack8 wrote:

Why would you soft any role when you aren't being voted.
Hmm, actually I do like an explanation on why it is bad.

I was going to explain why, but rereading my PM made me realize it was a bad idea.
Amianki
Why would you immediately revert to using your role as a shield the moment you get pressure on you anyway?
Raging Bull
If you honestly think that I would do that as scum after playing for this long, then ok.


Raging Bull wrote:

I was going to explain why, but rereading my PM made me realize it was a bad idea.
GuyInFreezer

Sephibro wrote:

still nyquill's bar is pretty full for one who hasn't posted anything yet
Because Nyquill
fferyllt

GuyInFreezer wrote:

fferyllt wrote:

welcome to feryland.
Last time you said this you were scum though
And thus I make sure it doesn't become a town tell.
fferyllt

Sephibro wrote:

GuyInFreezer wrote:

massclaim d1.
Discuss.
pure shit

nl d1
don't discuss, do it
Why?
Raging Bull
So would you be kind to explain what I did was bad?
Amianki
Here's a better question: Who's scum?
Raging Bull
No idea currently.
NoHitter
Vote: bubba

Also, what question? o.O
Tanzklaue
NH is your avatar a soft claim? ;o
NoHitter
Nah. I don't think Rinnosuke was even in the character list, was he?
NoHitter
Besides, Rinnosuke is the "moderator" of the game -_-
Tanzklaue
i jest, i jest.
bubbajack8

Raging Bull wrote:

bubbajack8 wrote:

Why would you soft any role when you aren't being voted.
Hmm, actually I do like an explanation on why it is bad.

I was going to explain why, but rereading my PM made me realize it was a bad idea.
1. There's no pressure on you. Makes you look like scared scum.
2. If you were actually town it makes you a night target.
3. There's no town reason to soft a role that blatantly.


NoHitter wrote:

Vote: bubba

Also, what question? o.O
Why do you want a plurality lynch system.
NoHitter
Because the forum's generally inactive. We used to do plurality lynches before. I admit that the hammer only system increases activity, but not enough. The compromise of lynching if the target is at least L-1 fits better.
Tanzklaue
yea, also plurality lynch gives scum less insentive to just sit back and do nothing.
fferyllt

NoHitter wrote:

Because the forum's generally inactive. We used to do plurality lynches before. I admit that the hammer only system increases activity, but not enough. The compromise of lynching if the target is at least L-1 fits better.
Activity is not an issue there, but the TeamLiquid site's mafia community uses a hybrid lynch mechanic. Achieve majority before deadline and the game day ends with a majority lynch. If it doesn't, then the player with the most votes at the end of the day is lynched.

And with that, especially if we're going with plurality lynch there's info about my role that town should be aware of.

I'm a double voter.
Tanzklaue

fferyllt wrote:

NoHitter wrote:

Because the forum's generally inactive. We used to do plurality lynches before. I admit that the hammer only system increases activity, but not enough. The compromise of lynching if the target is at least L-1 fits better.
Activity is not an issue there, but the TeamLiquid site's mafia community uses a hybrid lynch mechanic. Achieve majority before deadline and the game day ends with a majority lynch. If it doesn't, then the player with the most votes at the end of the day is lynched.
that's what we used to do around here aswell and what NH means with plurality lynch.
NoHitter
Town points for ffery for claiming doublevoter.
Sephibro
confirm your double vote you fool
fferyllt

Sephibro wrote:

confirm your double vote you fool
I'd be a fool to lie about it.

VOTE: GiF

2nd VOTE: fferyllt
Topic Starter
Sakura
Mannosuke speaks again:
"Currently the vote tally for plurality vs majority is 50/50, also here's an updated vote count on screen... is it just me or the ammount of people increased... ah well doesn't matter."

Raging Bull (4) - Navizel, CalignoBot, bubbajack8, DakeDekaane
Bubbajack8 (4) - Sephibro, pieguy1372, GuyInFreezer, NoHitter

Sephibro (1) - Tanzklaue
GuyInFreezer (1) - fferyllt
fferyllt (1) - fferyllt

Not Voting - Nyquill, Raging Bull

With 13 votes in play it takes 7 to lynch

Nyquill will be prodded at midnight if he hasn't posted by then.
Sephibro
ok fferyllt is probably town
Raging Bull
Why are people even voting for bubbajack again?
Sephibro
unvote

are you happy now
Raging Bull
No, because now you put me up for lynch.

bubbajack8 wrote:

1. There's no pressure on you. Makes you look like scared scum.
2. If you were actually town it makes you a night target.
3. There's no town reason to soft a role that blatantly.
so it looks like im scared scum when i only had one vote on me. That's bullshit. Granted you don't know my meta, but I never considered one vote to be actual pressure.

And if that makes me look town because of my soft claim, then then its counter intuitive to vote for me.

3 Ok then. Also my fault since I reread my pm when I was going to explain and I cannot do what I wanted to do.
Sephibro
also everybody who's town please vote the majority lynch thanks
fferyllt
UNVOTE

2nd UNVOTE
fferyllt
GiF why do you think bubbajack is scum?
fferyllt

Tanzklaue wrote:

yea, also plurality lynch gives scum less insentive to just sit back and do nothing.

Sephibro wrote:

also everybody who's town please vote the majority lynch thanks
??
Navizel
Unvote
Nyquill

Tanzklaue wrote:

Nyquill wrote:

Hi v/la until Monday, children's card games tournament.
which card game?
yu gay oh, went 5-1/9 before dropping because I needed to do something. Pretty good record for first regionals I'd say haha.

Will read.
Nyquill
why would plurality lynch give scum less incentive lurk? Lurking is probably what they'd want to do if a lynch is happening towards town without a hammer.
Sephibro

fferyllt wrote:

Sephibro wrote:

also everybody who's town please vote the majority lynch thanks
??

Sakura wrote:

Please PM me whether you'd prefer plurality or majority lynch and I'll follow the one with the most votes.
fferyllt

Sephibro wrote:

fferyllt wrote:

??

Sakura wrote:

Please PM me whether you'd prefer plurality or majority lynch and I'll follow the one with the most votes.
I need to dial back the cryptic.

My question was "why do you two have such strongly different opinions about whether majority lynch is good/bad here?" Tanz gives some indication for his position. I don't know what yours is.

I have some biases from offsite play, but I want to understand the pros and cons HERE before I decide how to vote.

Also, a limit of 2 embedded quotes is seriously cramping my style.
GuyInFreezer

fferyllt wrote:

GiF why do you think bubbajack is scum?
Why not
GuyInFreezer
Also the last few pages have been useless.
Sephibro
oh

imo tanzklaue wanted to say the opposite

Tanzklaue wrote:

yea, also plurality lynch gives scum less MORE insentive to just sit back and do nothing.
Sephibro
watch this game for example
t/156555

I was mafia with GIF and DakeDekaane, we just waited until the deadline for a plurality lynch without actually doing anything
Sephibro
and this is the scum QT of that game where we talked about abusing the plurality lynch http://www.quicktopic.com/50/H/KA3ghGkDdmQEU
Sephibro
@ferryllt
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