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Rio-
About 2k to 3k play, Pass with B or C.... About 4k-5k Pass with A (Sometimes)

And Also...

Alitor wrote:

As long as your passionate about the game eventually you can beat any song just takes perseverance
Nice Quote You got there.
- O n i -
2 months
after i started getting 1k plays a month
RaneFire
Seeing some of the maps that come out now, and compared to ones I played when I started, I wonder if I was even playing "insanes" then. What's an insane anymore anyway? I still fail some insanes lol.

It's a bit like this... as a not-to-scale (insane wouldn't fit on the page) example for how many different levels of skill can fall into each difficulty:

[------EZ------]
[--Normal--]
[--------Hard--------]
[---------------------------------------------------------------------------------Insane---------------------------------------------------------------------------------]
[----Extra----]

So as a solution we sorta divide "Insane" into sub-parts. And a lot of Insanes are classifiable extra's... or just glorified hards.

Pretty sure that as far as this thread goes, qualifying for passing insane songs was really just about finding one you could pass "by name"... and there's a fair number of easy ones that can do that for you.
Kevojai

RaneFire wrote:

Seeing some of the maps that come out now, and compared to ones I played when I started, I wonder if I was even playing "insanes" then. What's an insane anymore anyway? I still fail some insanes lol.

It's a bit like this... as a not-to-scale (insane wouldn't fit on the page) example for how many different levels of skill can fall into each difficulty:

[------EZ------]
[--Normal--]
[--------Hard--------]
[---------------------------------------------------------------------------------Insane---------------------------------------------------------------------------------]
[----Extra----]

So as a solution we sorta divide "Insane" into sub-parts. And a lot of Insanes are classifiable extra's... or just glorified hards.

Pretty sure that as far as this thread goes, qualifying for passing insane songs was really just about finding one you could pass "by name"... and there's a fair number of easy ones that can do that for you.


For me i count everything 210 bpm and above as extra, so i dunno if i am considered passing insane...since i can't beat anything at 210+ bpm
GoldenWolf

Kevojai wrote:

For me i count everything 210 bpm and above as extra, so i dunno if i am considered passing insane...since i can't beat anything at 210+ bpm
Some "insanes" are over 210bpm and still easier than some others insanes below 170bpm
BPM doesn't define how hard a map is
Kevojai

GoldenWolf wrote:

Kevojai wrote:

For me i count everything 210 bpm and above as extra, so i dunno if i am considered passing insane...since i can't beat anything at 210+ bpm
Some "insanes" are over 210bpm and still easier than some others insanes below 170bpm
BPM doesn't define how hard a map is

i see, well its just that the 210+ bpm maps that i have tried have been ridiculously hard so i sorta used it as a measurement. Sorry for the misinformation then.
Ezekeial
I started passing around 1~2K plays, which was around 1 month, being able to A insanes took a little longer.
-Ryosuke
I don't really know tbh.

I began to play insane songs one year ago because I used to play easy/normal songs for like.. a whole year? Then I just start spectating people like Elysion, Colored, else.. And wanting to be as good as them and started directly by insanes.
Amianki
About a couple months. Maybe around 700 or so plays.
3GidiZ
Somewhere about two weeks ago when I got bored doing normal/ez ones (around 2.5k plays or so) I thought "Ok, I'm bored as hell, let's go die in insane". Then it was just like that - fail a lot, pass few and laugh like crazy. Doing insanes is so much fun and by now I can say I even improved since I beat my old results and score a lot higher ones :D
AirCantus
I passed my first insane song when i played like 1200 times, and now i only play insanes, collabs, and stuff :}
JareDeZane
I think I passed my first insane after 2k plays. I THINK.
Mamoru Senpai
6 days (didn't pay attention to the plays at this time).
H4ks
first 3-4 days: got to know the game and did easy A-S
said to myself:lets move to normal, so I wont be that used to the slow speed
7 days: had trouble with hards and was confused how should I get better
10 days: doing hards
15days :figured out to use my ears than my eyes
17 days:HARDS A-S , some needed to learn
18 th day > today: Jumped to Insane and doing B-S , sometimes C
play count about 1100
I think the best way to do this is to move on when you can do the difficuly on A, then train accuracy and use ears more than eyes
:lol: :roll:
PS: Guys when you finished your first The big black beatmap without nofail?
edit:playing with mouse+keyboard:3
Lolzy
around at 1.5k plays i did my first insane
Cheese
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El Koko
5k? 10k? Heck. I don't know. I suck.
kleps
Started passing insanes at 1-2k playcount iirc.
Yano
About 1.75k-2.5k Plays I think
After I switched to Tablet I switched also to Insane
H4ks

Kokozord wrote:

5k? 10k? Heck. I don't know. I suck.
- lol you shouldn´t think that.. if I would have ur patience..what would I give for it.. btw Im i the only one that sux at streams? I always panic and spam XY as fast as possible, any tips for me? guys? :(
Coffee Hero

H4ks wrote:

Kokozord wrote:

5k? 10k? Heck. I don't know. I suck.
- lol you shouldn´t think that.. if I would have ur patience..what would I give for it.. btw Im i the only one that sux at streams? I always panic and spam XY as fast as possible, any tips for me? guys? :(
Play slower songs.
PlasticSmoothie
Dat necro
nya10
Wow am I actually the only one to grow in this game slowly. I can play insane after about 5k plays D:
Kawaii Slowpoke
Lol and then there is me that's been playing Osu for 3 years and can barely play hard.
but I never played much when I first downloaded it.

I think I did easy for awhile when I first got it and then I stopped
played again for maybe a couple days and moved to normal

and played randomly here and there.
Never more than 3 days in a row I don't think lol.

BUT NOW I HAVE MY TABLET and Im enjoying my progress already
iderekmc

JAKACHAN wrote:

Luna wrote:

Insanes at 10k plays is decent, don't worry
^ This.

Also, the fact that you played songs you couldn't beat with nofail is actually the smartest thing you can do to improve. Most people think they have to play songs they can pass to improve but really playing what you can't or can barely pass is the best way to move forward.
But thelewa says u have to play songs that u always get over 98% . Who is right? xD
Soulg
thelewa worst at accuracy duh
EatOsu
passed my first insane song? i dont even remember, but i can say that i was passing them regularly with atleast a B rank by 4-6k~
thelewa

iderekmc wrote:

JAKACHAN wrote:

Also, the fact that you played songs you couldn't beat with nofail is actually the smartest thing you can do to improve. Most people think they have to play songs they can pass to improve but really playing what you can't or can barely pass is the best way to move forward.
But thelewa says u have to play songs that u always get over 98% . Who is right? xD
We're talking about different things. JAKACHAN is talking about improving in aim and speed, and I'm talking about improving solely on accuracy.
-Tabzz-
i think after around 3k plays i started passing insanes regularly. I fc slower ones easily now, and complete harder ones with ease 90%+ most of the time.
Roricon
Wow :o I feel kinda bad I have almost 9k plays and still I get mostly B/C ratings on insanes, I even have d ratings on some streamy maps(I stream like shit on some maps getting only 50/100s =s) And there are still alot of harder insanes i cant pas even after 50+ plays on the map^^
Liiraye

VioletMaid wrote:

Actually playing mainly to improve after getting a tablet had me able to SS and S insane maps in 2 months (i'm lazy as fuck though and not nearly as committed as all these kids playing), and buying the black widow keyboard has me able to stream really well after a few months (and even stream kinda fast, not that fast though).

I lose skill rapidly if i don't keep playing :(. It's really annoying.

key for success: Play with a tablet for 5 hours or so once you get it, instantly use a big area (look at like M A I D's profile to see for example) play easy maps whatever you gotta do to get used to it. Once you do just start doing insanes/hards, your skill will increase super rapidly.

Main thing I noticed when I got a tablet is that I was instantly really good at spinning (430-460+).

The effort required to play with a tablet is like 1/15th of a mouse. And I love using the mouse, i play all kinds of fps games, good aim good reactions etc, always a top player in whatever game but osu! is just perfect for a pen tablet.



TLDR: buy a tablet if you like this game and don't have the irrational tablet hating mentality because you can't afford one. orz

Tablet area is highly relative to each players preference. I started with a small area but my friend made me change to full area because he said I'd play better. I was struggling with jumps for many months until I decided to try my original tiny area and bam after 4 hours of practice I went from having trouble fcing nomod insanes to fcing insanes with hdhr (which I had never done before that, ever).

I think niko gave the advise that you should pick the area you feel comfortable with reached the ends of the screen with.
Kumiho
1 week as soon as I upgraded my mouse. LOL
PlasticSmoothie

tomden wrote:

Wow :o I feel kinda bad I have almost 9k plays and still I get mostly B/C ratings on insanes, I even have d ratings on some streamy maps(I stream like shit on some maps getting only 50/100s =s) And there are still alot of harder insanes i cant pas even after 50+ plays on the map^^
Stop playing maps you can get a good score on and play maps that you can barely pass. You'll improve loads in no time.
mad Lou
After 1800 plays I'm able to pass easy insane Maps. Like this http://osu.ppy.sh/s/44132 or this http://osu.ppy.sh/s/43698
tokaku
After 11k plays I could FC insane maps without doing much. What I do is play maps slightly harder than my level. This way I slowly progress up. Jumping right into really insane songs with no fail would just make me panic and go around smashing my keyboard which isn't a good habit or thing to have when playing Osu. I'd turn on half time if it's too fast.
SkylXTumn
Hmm... About 800+ plays or so for me, I started being able to do easier insanes, how 'easy' they are exactly... Now at 1.2k plays, I play mostly insanes only, can't pass the ar9 hard ones etc, but I've been doing decently on quite a few ar8's. Hoping to pass maps like Wahrheit by 2k-2.5k plays!

Also was when I switched off mouse accel, turned it to 6/11 and put 1.7x on Osu. :D (I don't get how people play with 1.0x, it just doesn't sync with me, I feel most comfortable on 1.7x)
Jerome
About 2500 plays before I can do most insanes, though not the really hard ones (like in the World Cup).

At 2500 plays with the mouse I was doing hard songs no problem but insanes were a bit hard. Then I bought the tablet, and 20 plays later I was doing insanes without problem.
zquiller
If you really try and practice every day, you can complete some Insane maps in rank 60K, that's like the minimum rank I guess...hehe
Multtari
Easy: Skipped
Normals: Starter, HR before going into hards
Hards: A bit over three weeks since starter
Easy insanes: Week or two later so 4-5 weeks since starter
AR9 insanes: 6 weeks

Can't remember the ranks, started doing video collection since starting this game though i played about 200 plays in 2011 but it was like starting all fresh.
vsprite
1 month of playing, 3700 playcount and the best i can do atm is fc this song:
http://osu.ppy.sh/b/86324&m=0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UrCcFqI3-2k (Footage of song not actually by me, credit goes to the maker)

Mostly get b's and c's but the occasional a's if i practise the beatmaps hard enough.


Also, i found osu sorta my reaction time in cricket as well, and im able to react more quickly to fast bowlers.
Xyrax Alaria
After my first 24 hours of playing I was able to pass hards, then after about 2 weeks or so I was able to pass insanes. Getting past the SUPER hard songs like Scarlet Rose / Freedom Dive takes a long time.

Just have fun playing and take your time! :D
GoldenWolf

Xyrax Alaria wrote:

Getting past the SUPER hard songs like Scarlet Rose
Scarlet Rose isn't SUPER hard though
silmarilen

vsprite wrote:

1 month of playing, 3700 playcount and the best i can do atm is fc this song:
http://osu.ppy.sh/b/86324&m=0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UrCcFqI3-2k (Footage of song not actually by me, credit goes to the maker)

Mostly get b's and c's but the occasional a's if i practise the beatmaps hard enough.


Also, i found osu sorta my reaction time in cricket as well, and im able to react more quickly to fast bowlers.
you can fc that map with 3700 playcount? holy shit, that took me like 70k playcount.
BasedGod

silmarilen wrote:

vsprite wrote:

1 month of playing, 3700 playcount and the best i can do atm is fc this song:
http://osu.ppy.sh/b/86324&m=0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UrCcFqI3-2k (Footage of song not actually by me, credit goes to the maker)

Mostly get b's and c's but the occasional a's if i practise the beatmaps hard enough.


Also, i found osu sorta my reaction time in cricket as well, and im able to react more quickly to fast bowlers.
you can fc that map with 3700 playcount? holy shit, that took me like 70k playcount.
there's no way he can FC that xD
scottyyy
He hasn't fc'd it, I just checked >.>

Lying on the forum is cool
[ Stellar ]
Like a month and a half after I started playing.
And I could finally fc'd them consistently after I got my tablet :> (which was like another month later lel)
vsprite

scottyyy wrote:

He hasn't fc'd it, I just checked >.>

Lying on the forum is cool
Theres a thing called offline mode

Il do it again on online i promise


Also what do you mean by theres no way i can fc that song? Its not even that fast. Ive seen plenty of people fc songs harder than that with less playcount.
BasedGod

vsprite wrote:

scottyyy wrote:

He hasn't fc'd it, I just checked >.>

Lying on the forum is cool
Theres a thing called offline mode

Il do it again on online i promise
sure
Lights_old_1
Around 2k plays
Coffee Hero
Much longer than everybody in here apparently.
Noobsicle

vsprite wrote:

scottyyy wrote:

He hasn't fc'd it, I just checked >.>

Lying on the forum is cool
Also what do you mean by theres no way i can fc that song? Its not even that fast. Ive seen plenty of people fc songs harder than that with less playcount.
do you know what fc means

----

started easy insanes around 3k plays
buny
i can't even fc that map
Raging Bull
I still havent FC that map.
Keeby
wtf it took me 11k plays to consistently beat insanes. :\
BasedGod
Let's just ignore the fact that he ''FC'' it.
AegisFTW
I think by "FCing" it I think he means passing it, or just flat out lying.

Aside from that, I first started insanes around 5k-7.5k plays and I believe I first FC of an insane was this beatmap first or second try,https://osu.ppy.sh/s/71561 on accident around 10k plays at 70k rank before PPv2.

I had no idea how I FC'd it, I was just planning on raising my combo from 300x to whatever that's higher, then I ended up with a 986x with an S rank. From present perspective the beatmap is really easy and I could do it again with a higher % or hidden, but back then I was amazed at myself and watched my replay ten times.
GoldenWolf

vsprite wrote:

1 month of playing, 3700 playcount and the best i can do atm is fc this song:
http://osu.ppy.sh/b/86324&m=0
please teach me how to FC this map, master
nooblet

GoldenWolf wrote:

vsprite wrote:

1 month of playing, 3700 playcount and the best i can do atm is fc this song:
http://osu.ppy.sh/b/86324&m=0
please teach me how to FC this map, master
Never bothered SSing it? xD

OT: Probably around 5-10k plays is when I started playing them, only started FCing them with decent accuracy near the end of 2013, so probably 13-15k ish.
NotCookie_old
Took me probably 1-2k plays (or 1 month) to start playing/passing 'Insanes'.

vsprite hasn't FC'd that song online. buny definitely hasn't FC'd that either. That song is too hard for NZ, i think it should be nerfed
Me168
~3.75K Plays for me was about when I started to pass Insanes

That doesn't mean that I'm great at them (Actual Shit Tier Player here. Woo!), to get good at them takes a bunch more plays
tokaku

vsprite wrote:

scottyyy wrote:

He hasn't fc'd it, I just checked >.>

Lying on the forum is cool
Theres a thing called offline mode

Il do it again on online i promise


Also what do you mean by theres no way i can fc that song? Its not even that fast. Ive seen plenty of people fc songs harder than that with less playcount.
How about going to your local rankings, clicking the score, saving the replay and puushing it here?
Blueprint
About a month and a half, I think the only song I have fc If I even have is " look at my horse" LOL
Skriggniichan
It only took close to 2 months before I could start playing AR9 Insanes. I don't see why people find AR9 so hard if it doesn't take much time at all to get comfortable with.

On a more "you" note: You're doing fine in terms of improvement and should be able to continue to improve at a healthy rate(hopefully). Don't hit the brick wall of stop-that-improvement-this-instant.
jaaakb
1-2 months, ~4000 plays to pass. I used to play a lot of songs a lot with nofail, stuff I could read/hit to some extent without randomly spamming (65+acc or something). I started fcing some easier insanes 3 months, ~7000 plays in.
aBunny_old

vsprite wrote:

scottyyy wrote:

He hasn't fc'd it, I just checked >.>

Lying on the forum is cool
Theres a thing called offline mode

Il do it again on online i promise


Also what do you mean by theres no way i can fc that song? Its not even that fast. Ive seen plenty of people fc songs harder than that with less playcount.
post replay instead of typing empty words
Hyroo
At this playcount (5K) I can pass insanes sometimes on my first try, but to FC I need to play the map a little bit more
Blaziken
Stuck on hards for 2 years (Had mouse acceleration on)
Bought a tablet
Passing insanes with no effort half an hour later.
Illkryn
OP doesn't even play anymore
Pannari
I started passing my first insanes after 2 weeks of play.
Valdyr

Hyroo wrote:

At this playcount (5K)
4-5k playcount is when I started playing most insanes, and I starting FC-ing most of them after 9-10 times after about 1k or 1.5k afterwards
Nub1
1-5 just for passing the song, 5-... for making it full combo
Vasta
Passing since 2.4k plays
B1rd
Don't know how many plays but just yesterday I woke up and suddenly was able to pass insane ar9 songs :D . So a bit over 4 months.
Sochi_old
Since 2.5k plays.
Caam
Ever since i got a tablet.
Vuelo Eluko
been spamming nofail on insanes desperately trying to pass since playcount 1 actually

almost there
limee_old
Consistently passing insanes that are rate about 40 TP at around 5k/6k plays. Personally, I don't think playing songs that are ridiculously hard are efficient at improving. Playing difficult songs above your level is necessary, but if you fail in the first 20 beats of the song even after around 5 retries then it's probably too hard and you should find something a little easier.
Maxis
Just moved to insane songs at around 3k plays, pretty decent imo.
Admittedly the harder insanes I usually can't pass still 'cause I'm a noob.
Genjitsu
From the first day I played osu! ? 4-5 months (or 6k plays)
Raz
Was able to pass insanes after about 3 weeks of pretty hardcore playing (4+ hrs daily because I was super addicted) which was probably around 1.3k-1.5k plays... They were lighter insanes though (http://osu.ppy.sh/s/68893 & http://osu.ppy.sh/s/83494) and i had played the maps like 5-10 times a day until i could pass them. I wasn't able to consistently pass 80% of insanes until like 6k-7k plays (about 2.5-3 months of playing)
Ethelon
~1k plays.
Took me less plays because I was doing at least 5 hour sessions (10 hours a few times).
Addiction is real.
nrl

Bassist Vinyl wrote:

been spamming nofail on insanes desperately trying to pass since playcount 1 actually

almost there
This is a quick way to get absolutely nowhere.
theLiminator
After about 1.4k plays I could pass some really easy Insane songs. My top PP scores are from those few.
10crystalmask01
Still can't pass Insane diffs (specifically ones with Ar 9) :? My user page will tell you how long I've been playing, haha...
theLiminator
After around 1.5k plays I could pass ~2.5 star insanes. Still really bad at this game.
Iceskulls
After 1.5k play I started to pass some easy insane maps
Kritzkingvoid
took 10 tries with no mods

I beat my first insane map after playing 5000 beatmaps
AnegelSeeker
when i was at about 2k i decided to up the dificulty quite a bit, more or less froce it, so i downloaded the first thing i found to be hard and that happende to be NIRGILIS - SNOW KISS ... took about 200 replays (its still in my top played) but in the end i mangaed to complete it one morning. because of the high learning curve at the time and hours of closely studying of my teqnique i beacame more calm on the keybord and tablet (huion h610). im at 4.5k plays now and although insane songs arent exactly easy they beacame doable. curently im trying much faster songs (like Bermuda Loverz - My Girl (Nightcore Mix) - insane) and once in a while i find myself going much faster then i thought i could

i definaly DO NOT recommand this way of practice to everyone, slow and patient is one of the best way to learn, but i do want to stress that you should up the dificulty slightly once you are comfortable with your current standing (dont go crazy with the dificulty and being comfortable does not entale getting only S or SS ot a sertain BPM, it can be as close as geting As and holding up a long combo)

one more thing, do not play the game compatively. your rank should be an indication if your current skill level not an idntication of how many hours you strained your hand, enjoy the game and go at your own pace. Every one has potantial so keep playing and watch yourself grow, its alot more rewarding and enjoyable at the end of the day day

Have Fun :lol:
Nublin
I have a few 2.5 ish insanes passed, first insane pass probably around 1.2k? ish?
Passing insanes doesn't help your PP very much though :(
Soarezi

rdv21 wrote:

when i was at about 2k i decided to up the dificulty quite a bit, more or less froce it, so i downloaded the first thing i found to be hard and that happende to be NIRGILIS - SNOW KISS ... took about 200 replays (its still in my top played) but in the end i mangaed to complete it one morning. because of the high learning curve at the time and hours of closely studying of my teqnique i beacame more calm on the keybord and tablet (huion h610). im at 4.5k plays now and although insane songs arent exactly easy they beacame doable. curently im trying much faster songs (like Bermuda Loverz - My Girl (Nightcore Mix) - insane) and once in a while i find myself going much faster then i thought i could

i definaly DO NOT recommand this way of practice to everyone, slow and patient is one of the best way to learn, but i do want to stress that you should up the dificulty slightly once you are comfortable with your current standing (dont go crazy with the dificulty and being comfortable does not entale getting only S or SS ot a sertain BPM, it can be as close as geting As and holding up a long combo)

one more thing, do not play the game compatively. your rank should be an indication if your current skill level not an idntication of how many hours you strained your hand, enjoy the game and go at your own pace. Every one has potantial so keep playing and watch yourself grow, its alot more rewarding and enjoyable at the end of the day day

Have Fun :lol:
rip english
I passed scatman on my first day of osu >w <
meteor22
First day i passed a hard song, the 3rd day I cleared an insane map
NinjaNick
I cleared insane maps around 1,000 plays, I guess that's kinda good but everyone is different. It might take me 1,000 but it took you 10,000, it doesn't mean one of us is better than the other.
WhiteRose
It took about... hmm... 1-2 months. I don't even remember how many plays I had.
djjsixpack
Don't remember how many plays I had but I started to pass insanes after a month maybe, and fc easier ones in 3-4 months I think.
DeletedUser_4041880
I can pass/FC some easy insanes and a few moderately fast ones right now. I'm at around 1.5k plays and I've been playing for roughly two months.

//using a tablet makes it easier too ahaa
mcdoomfrag
Why are people still responding to OP's 2 year old question?
DeletedUser_4041880

mcdoomfrag wrote:

Why are people still responding to OP's 2 year old question?
Because some of us likes to compare our answers to other people and see how much faster we improved.
ShiraiiiKuroko
A month and a half
I think it's less, but I don't remember.
I know this sounds cliché, but I improved drastically after getting my tablet.
Rio-
Kinda remembered the time when I passed No, Thank You in Insane after ~1,5k play roughly 1 month
WAVEDASH
Definitely not 10k plays~
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