Karma mid is terribly strongBrokenArrow wrote:
Oh god, I cried today..
So the enemy team left Kassadin open (7th time this season for me, lol) and I picked it.. and got stomped by a Karma in lane. Like, really hard.
I sucked so freaking hard, thank god my team carried me and we eventually won.. but damn.. I suck.
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I'm currently 3/0 with Kass in ranked, the snowball is 2 stronk =w=BrokenArrow wrote:
Oh god, I cried today..
So the enemy team left Kassadin open (7th time this season for me, lol) and I picked it.. and got stomped by a Karma in lane. Like, really hard.
I sucked so freaking hard, thank god my team carried me and we eventually won.. but damn.. I suck.
But yeah, a good karma is pretty annoying to deal with.
Her poke is simply amazing, and if she lands a w (while trying to set up her jungler or whoever for a gank), you're probably pretty much dead.
The thing is plenty of times Karma does nothing other than performs greatly in lane.
Like Renekton.
Like Renekton.
TKiller wrote:
The thing is plenty of times Karma does nothing other than performs greatly in lane.
Like Renekton.
i don't agree with you she can give a decent shield + movement speed great poke she fits good in sieging comps
I suppose Karma is sorta like Nidalee in team fights.TKiller wrote:
The thing is plenty of times Karma does nothing other than performs greatly in lane.
Like Renekton.
Her job is to poke the enemy team down and hopefully her team has the ability to clean them up.
Nidalee can clean in here cougar form , karma can't clean up but she has a shield and movementspeed buff instead
Not a lot of team comps can benefit from empowered shield.SoG Tava wrote:
i don't agree with you she can give a decent shield + movement speed great poke she fits good in sieging comps
Using empowered shield means you're gonna have even less burst for a while.
Not using empowered shield means you have to be either that much ahead or in/against a right team comp to be able to go back and forth into fairly close range utilizing your poke, missing hp regen and snare.
Even though Karma's kit changed a lot after rework, in general she still is a team reliant lane bully.
you've got a pointTKiller wrote:
Not a lot of team comps can benefit from empowered shield.SoG Tava wrote:
i don't agree with you she can give a decent shield + movement speed great poke she fits good in sieging comps
Using empowered shield means you're gonna have even less burst for a while.
Not using empowered shield means you have to be either that much ahead or in/against a right team comp to be able to go back and forth into fairly close range utilizing your poke, missing hp regen and snare.
Even though Karma's kit changed a lot after rework, in general she still is a team reliant lane bully.
There's really no reason to pick Karma in this meta. Her poke is mediocre, play Nidalee or Gragas for poke. Her burst is awful and she has subpar mobility so she isn't an assassin. Her utility is subpar too, play Orianna for utility instead. And there are many matchups that can go even or win vs Karma so she's not even the best lane bully. Imo until the meta shifts to supportive midlaners, the only way she would be viable is if she was reworked to support.
4.3 patch notes are out. Yay for Gragas, Kha and shroom nerfs \:D/
Kassadin will still be permabanned.
Kassadin will still be permabanned.
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Gragas, Kha'Zix and Kass nerfs FUAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARRK
aaaaaaaaaanddd another Kass nerf.
The problem is, that Gragas will still be viable...this nerf isn't a real nerf, and that's kinda wondering me...BrokenArrow wrote:
4.3 patch notes are out. Yay for Gragas, Kha and shroom nerfs \:D/
Kassadin will still be permabanned.
Same for Kassa, he still has his sick AP ratios. :p
And Kha..idk, ppl will still play him too...
Gragas nerf won't do much. Riot is nerfing him the wrong way (no surprise).
He needs to lose most if not all the random tank stats from both his passive and W before nerfs start to hurt him. Can even buff him to compensate for losing tankyness.
Kassadin needs to be remade. Stupid kit that will either be brokenly overpowered or straight up useless.
I actually think Kha'Zix was in a good place. Q nerf is fine, but the .6 ratio from his E will hurt him some. 2 second stealth ulti is interesting though.
He needs to lose most if not all the random tank stats from both his passive and W before nerfs start to hurt him. Can even buff him to compensate for losing tankyness.
Kassadin needs to be remade. Stupid kit that will either be brokenly overpowered or straight up useless.
I actually think Kha'Zix was in a good place. Q nerf is fine, but the .6 ratio from his E will hurt him some. 2 second stealth ulti is interesting though.
The buff on Face of the Mountain is just amazing. I love it.
Players can now be invited to and accept game invitations while already in a lobby
Thank God finally <3
omg master yi in hexakill
all skill
all skill
I'd like the see the new Kayle icons! =O
Also liking the change to boots of mobility, sightstone and ruby sightstone.
Also liking the change to boots of mobility, sightstone and ruby sightstone.
https://twitter.com/danielzklein/status ... 8783727617
I want to play the new Warwick so badly.
Kit seems very close to a PBE launch, but I know they want to launch it with a VU so who knows how far along that is. =\
I want to play the new Warwick so badly.
Kit seems very close to a PBE launch, but I know they want to launch it with a VU so who knows how far along that is. =\
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Mhh i am curious what the rewards will be i have spend alot of money on this game :s
Yeah of courseBlaziken wrote:
So, how is Kha Zix now? I can still play him right?
OMG.
Can't wait to go home and play Vel'Koz >w<
Pew pew LASERS~
-throws $ at comp screen, rito plz-
Can't wait to go home and play Vel'Koz >w<
Pew pew LASERS~
-throws $ at comp screen, rito plz-
Red is such a pretty color
Just like the blood that's flowing out of my veins
_w_
I hate how my win rate is stuck at 50%.
It's always win one, then lose one.
I hate how my win rate is stuck at 50%.
It's always win one, then lose one.
Yeah, lowering the ratio is the worst way to address his ult. The problem is not in the damage, the problem that it's high damage, instant and dirupting at the same time.Vulf wrote:
Gragas nerf won't do much. Riot is nerfing him the wrong way (no surprise).
Even something as simple as making it like 0.66 ap +0.7 current base instant and 0.33+0.3 current base dps over 3 seconds would make it a lot more counterplayable while still powerful. Obviously just giving this as an example.
Gragas' whole kit is close to be balanced. Even the 15% reduction is not that much overpowered, it's the fact that the kit doesn't require you to put yourself in danger to do your big damage unless you're cleaning up.
I believe that his kit can be balanced through numbers, just not damage numbers alone.
High damage, High mobility, Medium-high utility, and very disruptive all while being played similar to an assassin. Low risk very high reward.
If they are going to nerf Ahri for this then there is no excuse for Gragas to stay how he is.
He has way too much going on for him. Just saying his damage isn't the problem. It's the random tankyness (from his passive and W) combo'd with a movement displacement and an attack speed slow. 1 of the 3 needs to be toned down a lot.
If they are going to nerf Ahri for this then there is no excuse for Gragas to stay how he is.
He has way too much going on for him. Just saying his damage isn't the problem. It's the random tankyness (from his passive and W) combo'd with a movement displacement and an attack speed slow. 1 of the 3 needs to be toned down a lot.
The ree singah is op doe.Blaziken wrote:
I just HAD to go buy Lee Sin.
Def. one of my fav junglers =w=
The Darien disrespect. Manamune on Aatrox lmao.
Darien is the defenition of swag #420 blaze itNavizel wrote:
The Darien disrespect. Manamune on Aatrox lmao.
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Oh god. The Doran's Shield nerf will make me have a much harder time in my lane against match ups like Renekton (Riven main). Also saw somewhere the Boots of Lucidity is also getting a nerf to it's CDR, making it another nerf to her :/.
By the way, wasn't Draven getting a nerf on his passive? They've done nothing about that yet. If the dude stacks his Q fast and get's an early kill he's untouchable for the rest of the laning phase
By the way, wasn't Draven getting a nerf on his passive? They've done nothing about that yet. If the dude stacks his Q fast and get's an early kill he's untouchable for the rest of the laning phase
after the darien posts i read your opening line as "darien's shield" and i was like hang on what
lmfaotyrael6192 wrote:
after the darien posts i read your opening line as "darien's shield" and i was like hang on what
i can't wait for this doran's shield nerf, doran shield thresh rekt my support in lane and i almost cried
Yeah dorans shield Needs a nerfHika wrote:
i can't wait for this doran's shield nerf
I suddenly remembered that Irelia exists.
the copypaste comment is a nice touch
yay
This has the makings of an incredible, totally not shitty gameNavizel wrote:
yay
Client crashed on loading for me, Lucian and Wukong. Came to game ~2,5 levels behind.
Silly platinum.
#SWAG
Gratz !Jordan wrote:
#SWAG
that's my goal 2my win/lose cycle is so fucked up
it's been either only losses or only wins for three days already
5 wins 2 days ago
6 straight losses yesterday
and now I'm sitting on 3 wins today again
IS THIS HOW ALLIANCE FELT LIKE
#bronze
I give up with AP warwick. Can't carry these games for some reason despite having ridiculous KDA's every game.
Well, duh.Vulf wrote:
I give up with AP warwick. Can't carry these games for some reason despite having ridiculous KDA's every game.
Only works into low hp teams that can't stun well or jump.
When people pick something like that it's quite hilarious to play though.
I saw onlyjaximus playing it once on his stream he had the same problem , high kda but coudent carryVulf wrote:
I give up with AP warwick. Can't carry these games for some reason despite having ridiculous KDA's every game.
why not
I keep getting these games. Can't tell if they're awesome or incredibly silly.
Fucking platinum, this stuff cracks me up.
I really appreciate the laning Yi pick into laning Vi though, god bless you SayIT. He got a penta btw.
Wow Kassadin not picked or banned is this Season 2
maybe most of them did not know how to play kassadin that well and decided not to pick him. it's all about how you play the champ. though. it's no use if you use kass on ranked if you rarely play him on normal. atleast that's what i thinkBrokenArrow wrote:
Wow Kassadin not picked or banned is this Season 2
yeah but that would make logical sense, and everyone knows logic is a lost virtue in the league community
How can you not know how to play Kassadin though, that's like not understanding the concept of a hammer.
TKiller wrote:
How can you not know how to play Kassadin though, that's like not understanding the concept of a hammer.
Well she doesen't understand the concept of a hammer , so i guess she won't be able to play kassadin xD
This also applies to most online games really. Something about being behind a computer interacting with people you don't know gives you the urge to throw logic out of the window.tyrael6192 wrote:
everyone knows logic is a lost virtue in the league community
omg enemy team gets amumu and blitz gg KappaBrokenArrow wrote:
Wow Kassadin not picked or banned is this Season 2
pls report firstpick no bannerino buritzucranku y amumu
at least they didn't get shen ehehehehehehehehehehuehueeuhheueKanye West wrote:
omg enemy team gets amumu and blitz gg KappaBrokenArrow wrote:
Wow Kassadin not picked or banned is this Season 2
pls report firstpick no bannerino buritzucranku y amumu
DAMN that OddOne just went godmode. Also fuck the regi haters
Indeed.
Regi did pretty good against Dig. Hope he can do good against C9 tomorrow.
Regi did pretty good against Dig. Hope he can do good against C9 tomorrow.
most intense aram game i've ever been in
just back and forth over and over so many kills
pretty much every game of aram
Look's like they gonna make another skin based on fan art , void fizz is awsome
not gonna lie i nearly cried
regi <3
wtf 2 wukongs?
Kanye West wrote:
wtf 2 gragas?
fuk u stop ruining this special moment
Welp.
TSM Yellowstar.
TSM Yellowstar.
The hell was wrong with TSM this game. It's like they were on drugs.
Xpecial's Thresh culmination play hella cracked me up, I hope someone makes a gif of that.
Xpecial's Thresh culmination play hella cracked me up, I hope someone makes a gif of that.
Honestly i am getting tired of watching the lcs atm it's the same shit over and over again 
remember kids, always ban khazix
Not just LCS it's the same for every competitive league tourny ever with a few off picks here and there. Champion variety is not something that will ever be a thing in this game as long as they keep the same balance philosophy.SoG Tava wrote:
Honestly i am getting tired of watching the lcs atm it's the same shit over and over again
It has been better this season though.
He went full yellowstar hahahTKiller wrote:
The hell was wrong with TSM this game. It's like they were on drugs.
Xpecial's Thresh culmination play hella cracked me up, I hope someone makes a gif of that.
Also yes I agree about the lcs games being boring. I hate this meta where top lane is an unkillable farmfest and the whole game depends on mid and jungle. Honestly riot should buff ad carry items so they can be more than just tower killers and not get oneshot by an unkillable shyvana. The only reason ranged ad is even played anymore is to kill towers. It's actually more efficient to play double bruiser or aggressive support + bruiser bot lane if you don't take into consideration the lack of tower pushing power.
One of the reasons why dota doesn't have a stale metagame is because carries are actually carries instead of glorified cannon minions
To be fair, an unattended adc still wrecks everyone pretty fast the closer it gets to lategame and an unkillable Shyvanna oneshot is not always a thing.
Ziggs is an interesting substitute to an adc bot lane by the way. He can damage towers really well with his passive while being just as much of a lane bully as mid lane and bringing that obnoxious poke to sieges. Building chalice bot lane doesn't add nearly as much trading potential as it does mid tho.
Ziggs is an interesting substitute to an adc bot lane by the way. He can damage towers really well with his passive while being just as much of a lane bully as mid lane and bringing that obnoxious poke to sieges. Building chalice bot lane doesn't add nearly as much trading potential as it does mid tho.
Silver 2.
Almost there to Gold~ ;w;
Almost there to Gold~ ;w;
Gold 2, just a bit more D:
My goal for this season was actually to get out of Silver but I might as well reach higher Platinum at this rate
Also Bjergsen answered a question I asked him in Twitch chat today, life complete.
My goal for this season was actually to get out of Silver but I might as well reach higher Platinum at this rate
Also Bjergsen answered a question I asked him in Twitch chat today, life complete.
Gold IV \:D/ fuck yeah I want plat
Fun game i did with my friends, everytime I killed someone the enemy team would spam "Deleted" lmao.
lol'd
I always knew this was how she was meant to be played!
Why all the hate towards Fiora? Just played a game with a Plat III Fiora mid boosting a scrublord with 40% ranked winrate that deserved Bronze V, she proceeded to win lane and carried the game. What are her flaws despite having no escapes? She has a fuckton of dmg, can out-duel anyone except of jax I think, and the only way to counter her ult is Thornmail which you won't be getting in an assassin anyway. She also holds a steady 54% winrate in Diamond.
http://www.lolking.net/charts?region=al ... ue=diamond
http://www.lolking.net/charts?region=al ... ue=diamond
I've faced a lot of Fiora players that are awful at timing her parry. That's the first thing that comes to mind.Jordan wrote:
Why all the hate towards Fiora?
Parry is a pretty minor part of Fiora in common matchups tbh. Like, block Parrley or Jax's third/empowered attack or Nasus' q and stuff like that once in a while and just spam it in most situations.
You're not even supposed to max it unless you're in a matchup your opponent relies on those specific autoattacks to get your hp down.
Fiora has no real throwback build, it's either full damage or nothing.
She doesn't have a good way of incorporating cdr into her build aside from black cleaver, meaning you need even more damage to be meaningful between gapcloser+steroid cooldown windows.
She doesn't have a reliable kiting ability (need to hit something before the movement speed increases) along with having no hard escape while being a melee burst fighter (???)
And even her ultimate can sometimes be used to reposition her in enemy team's favor.
She's almost in the same place as Poppy with some tweaks. She relies on items while having no reliable laning phase. Except Fiora's laning is a bit less terrible with no big items and Poppy is more durable lategame even though they both have only active durability.
I like Fiora and I wouldn't like seeing her changed to be honest, but I wouldn't expect to win lane with her unless I am against someone who sucks dicks on daily basis for non-sexual orientation reasons or I get in weird 2v2 situations.
You're not even supposed to max it unless you're in a matchup your opponent relies on those specific autoattacks to get your hp down.
Fiora has no real throwback build, it's either full damage or nothing.
She doesn't have a good way of incorporating cdr into her build aside from black cleaver, meaning you need even more damage to be meaningful between gapcloser+steroid cooldown windows.
She doesn't have a reliable kiting ability (need to hit something before the movement speed increases) along with having no hard escape while being a melee burst fighter (???)
And even her ultimate can sometimes be used to reposition her in enemy team's favor.
She's almost in the same place as Poppy with some tweaks. She relies on items while having no reliable laning phase. Except Fiora's laning is a bit less terrible with no big items and Poppy is more durable lategame even though they both have only active durability.
I like Fiora and I wouldn't like seeing her changed to be honest, but I wouldn't expect to win lane with her unless I am against someone who sucks dicks on daily basis for non-sexual orientation reasons or I get in weird 2v2 situations.
Regardless of how much we can all disagree, we can agree on one thing. We all hate Teemo.
How do you explain her high winrate tho... I had no way to win my lane too, I was talon and she would always win trades and my harassment (W) ended up with her jumping on me and doing a fuckton of dmg from lvl 4 already. My jungler ganks also failed :/ she eventually ended up getting a kill on me and other kills from roamingTKiller wrote:
Parry is a pretty minor part of Fiora in common matchups tbh. Like, block Parrley or Jax's third/empowered attack or Nasus' q and stuff like that once in a while and just spam it in most situations.
You're not even supposed to max it unless you're in a matchup your opponent relies on those specific autoattacks to get your hp down.
Fiora has no real throwback build, it's either full damage or nothing.
She doesn't have a good way of incorporating cdr into her build aside from black cleaver, meaning you need even more damage to be meaningful between gapcloser+steroid cooldown windows.
She doesn't have a reliable kiting ability (need to hit something before the movement speed increases) along with having no hard escape while being a melee burst fighter (???)
And even her ultimate can sometimes be used to reposition her in enemy team's favor.
She's almost in the same place as Poppy with some tweaks. She relies on items while having no reliable laning phase. Except Fiora's laning is a bit less terrible with no big items and Poppy is more durable lategame even though they both have only active durability.
I like Fiora and I wouldn't like seeing her changed to be honest, but I wouldn't expect to win lane with her unless I am against someone who sucks dicks on daily basis for non-sexual orientation reasons or I get in weird 2v2 situations.
I loldHyroo wrote:
Regardless of how much we can all disagree, we can agree on one thing. We all hate Teemo.
TKiller wrote:
Parry is a pretty minor part of Fiora in common matchups tbh.
Don't have to make it to be effective.TKiller wrote:
You're not even supposed to max it
Maybe that's just because Gangplank's my favourite champion (where my damage comes from my Q)... Sorry for the confusion then. I always thought it was big anyway. =/
Her win rates come from low popularity resulting in slightly higher percent of pickers who know how to dodge the dicks flying in the direction of your mouth.Jordan wrote:
How do you explain her high winrate tho... I had no way to win my lane too, I was talon and she would always win trades and my harassment (W) ended up with her jumping on me and doing a fuckton of dmg from lvl 4 already. My jungler ganks also failed :/ she eventually ended up getting a kill on me and other kills from roaming
Talon's skillset sucks against her, okay, but that just means that you don't trade with her pre 6 and farm with your raking blades and only harras from max range of W quickly backing off. You can fight her longer is she loses Q or E due to slow being effective now, but she won't have reason to do so if you play safe. After 6 you can get much more significant damage on her during silence but still not likely to win 1v1 unless you succeeded in max range harrasing without running out of mana somehow and she didn't back.
Thing is, Talon kinda sucks against point and clicks or jumpers and Fiora is both.
You have to wonder..... Where the hell did Irelia go?
I remeber days where people would go "nerf Irelia!" on a regular basis. Now people go "who dat?".
I miss this woman.
I remeber days where people would go "nerf Irelia!" on a regular basis. Now people go "who dat?".
I miss this woman.
I still hear people say that... but why?Ceph23 wrote:
I remeber days where people would go "nerf Irelia!"
I really like her but I can't kill people with her in lane so I gave up on her...
I sill think Irelia is a decent pick. She has a lot of issues, but those probably won't ever be fixed until the bruiser rehaul.
She does well against some matchups but in the long run people would rather just spam Renekton and Shyvana who do well against almost every matchup.
She does well against some matchups but in the long run people would rather just spam Renekton and Shyvana who do well against almost every matchup.
Because she would get randomly nerfed in previous patches, Riot were just nerfing Irelia for the sake of it rather then dealing with the real issues.Justykanna wrote:
I still hear people say that... but why?Ceph23 wrote:
I remeber days where people would go "nerf Irelia!"
I really like her but I can't kill people with her in lane so I gave up on her...
After spamming Renekton last season, nothing worked out for me so I gave up on trying to do well with him. D= I'd take Irelia over him any day.Vulf wrote:
She does well against some matchups but in the long run people would rather just spam Renekton and Shyvana who do well against almost every matchup.
I must've not been paying attention to the patch notes... I don't remember much mention of her since I bought using her.La Volpe wrote:
Because she would get randomly nerfed in previous patches, Riot were just nerfing Irelia for the sake of it rather then dealing with the real issues.
Ryze v2?
Speaking of Renekton I'm quite surprised on how long he has went without any nerfs. Not necessarily saying he is over powered, but he does a lot of things Riot hates which is great sustain at pretty much no cost, builds tanky and does decent damage all while being relatively safe in lane.
They keep nerfing him on PBE, but they get reverted the next patch. I assume they don't have a clue on what to do with him. LOL
They keep nerfing him on PBE, but they get reverted the next patch. I assume they don't have a clue on what to do with him. LOL
The main point of "nerf irelia" was back in season 2 and it just sticked as a meme. You see the healing you get when W is active? That used to be normal healing when autohitting even with W not active,so basically her sustain got halved. She got nerfed to the ground once before bringing back a bit by buffing base AD and base regen. Man I got so mad back then when I mained Irelia and they did that,I was such a fool lol she was just blatantly overpowered at one pointJustykanna wrote:
After spamming Renekton last season, nothing worked out for me so I gave up on trying to do well with him. D= I'd take Irelia over him any day.Vulf wrote:
She does well against some matchups but in the long run people would rather just spam Renekton and Shyvana who do well against almost every matchup.I must've not been paying attention to the patch notes... I don't remember much mention of her since I bought using her.La Volpe wrote:
Because she would get randomly nerfed in previous patches, Riot were just nerfing Irelia for the sake of it rather then dealing with the real issues.
Irelia is the only top laner I have been playing recently, solely because I fuckin' hate facing Olaf tops and I can beat Olaf by backpeddling and mashing the R key.
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Well, every Renekton I've faced in the top lane I pretty much destroyed him playing Riven. But it might be because I main Riven for a long time, or I just faced terrible Renektons.Vulf wrote:
Speaking of Renekton I'm quite surprised on how long he has went without any nerfs. Not necessarily saying he is over powered, but he does a lot of things Riot hates which is great sustain at pretty much no cost, builds tanky and does decent damage all while being relatively safe in lane.
They keep nerfing him on PBE, but they get reverted the next patch. I assume they don't have a clue on what to do with him. LOL
I however have seen Renektons in my team who did extremely well in their lane and snowballed super hard, carrying the game.
They were bad at Renekton. He had everything to shut Riven down long before and now after all the nerfs to Riven he simply decimates her. Doesn't even matter which build path you go, all the items you can buy and build towards on Renekton during laning are good against Riven as well as his skillset.P r o m i s e s wrote:
Well, every Renekton I've faced in the top lane I pretty much destroyed him playing Riven. But it might be because I main Riven for a long time, or I just faced terrible Renektons.Vulf wrote:
Speaking of Renekton I'm quite surprised on how long he has went without any nerfs. Not necessarily saying he is over powered, but he does a lot of things Riot hates which is great sustain at pretty much no cost, builds tanky and does decent damage all while being relatively safe in lane.
They keep nerfing him on PBE, but they get reverted the next patch. I assume they don't have a clue on what to do with him. LOL
I however have seen Renektons in my team who did extremely well in their lane and snowballed super hard, carrying the game.