2014-04-19 15:05 Dainesl: Nwolf
2014-04-19 15:05 Dainesl: you, me, and Gensou no Satellite
2014-04-19 15:05 Dainesl: recheck time
2014-04-19 15:06 Nwolf: k
2014-04-19 15:06 Nwolf: just going afk for a sec
2014-04-19 15:06 Dainesl: ok i'll re-DL
2014-04-19 15:08 Nwolf: woof
2014-04-19 15:08 Dainesl: right
2014-04-19 15:08 Dainesl: first thing is that the Source conflicts
2014-04-19 15:08 Dainesl: Oni diff has no Source, all the others do
2014-04-19 15:08 Nwolf: dafaq why
2014-04-19 15:09 Dainesl: don't ask why ;w;
2014-04-19 15:09 Dainesl: i'll re-DL again
2014-04-19 15:09 Dainesl: yeah that's bad
2014-04-19 15:09 Dainesl: fix that and then we'll begin
2014-04-19 15:09 Nwolf: fixed
2014-04-19 15:10 Dainesl: right, now when I look at AIMod it says that kiai is toggled very frequently (it's confusing the inherited points)
2014-04-19 15:10 Dainesl: so either make the map one or 2 volumes to fix this otherwise keep as is because AIMod is baka
2014-04-19 15:10 Nwolf: guess I can't do anything about that
2014-04-19 15:11 Dainesl: i'll see if i can get a decent 2 volumes
2014-04-19 15:11 Dainesl: or you could just have no SV changes
2014-04-19 15:11 Nwolf: impossible :<
2014-04-19 15:11 Dainesl: ok then
2014-04-19 15:11 Nwolf: ...well maybe in Kantan
2014-04-19 15:11 Dainesl: you don't really need SV changes for this song
2014-04-19 15:12 Dainesl: apart from the beginning, 'cause you know
2014-04-19 15:13 Nwolf: I like SV changes if they are not as stupid as in maps like Freestyler... or almost any other sp3 map
2014-04-19 15:13 Dainesl: ;w;
2014-04-19 15:13 Nwolf: ah in Kantan the only thing that it probably complains about is the volume change in the last kiai
2014-04-19 15:14 Dainesl: well you don't even need the 03:14:687 - point to be Kiai
2014-04-19 15:14 Dainesl: it's just a transition
2014-04-19 15:14 Dainesl: and a really loud one at that
2014-04-19 15:15 Dainesl: yes it only complains about that point btw
2014-04-19 15:15 Nwolf: hm I'll just delete the green line right after that and make the volume of the scream 75%
2014-04-19 15:15 Dainesl: no, i'm saying not to have that as Kiai at all
2014-04-19 15:15 Dainesl: in any diff
2014-04-19 15:15 Dainesl: because it's just a transition to the actual Kiai
2014-04-19 15:15 Nwolf: That was my reason to have it as kiai
2014-04-19 15:16 Dainesl: well remove the green line after that then if you wish to keep it as is
2014-04-19 15:16 Dainesl: Inner Oni has 3 of these things happening
2014-04-19 15:17 Dainesl: so please remove green lines where you need to
2014-04-19 15:17 Dainesl: and then we can finally get started! ;w;
2014-04-19 15:18 Dainesl: also remove widescreen support as TKS will only be annoyed www
2014-04-19 15:19 Nwolf: why would he be annoyed by that?
2014-04-19 15:19 Nwolf: (and ok)
2014-04-19 15:19 Dainesl: in scattered rose he /punched the widescreen support
2014-04-19 15:20 Nwolf: I hate this bug
2014-04-19 15:20 Nwolf: so much
2014-04-19 15:20 Dainesl: no wait
2014-04-19 15:20 Dainesl: i got it
2014-04-19 15:20 Dainesl: [http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/1527199 this is the issue.]
2014-04-19 15:20 Nwolf: ?
2014-04-19 15:21 Nwolf: I just got kicked out of osu
2014-04-19 15:21 Dainesl: wow ok
2014-04-19 15:21 Nwolf: I don't know what exactly you mean
2014-04-19 15:21 Dainesl: no wait it's actually not the issue but best you change it anyways
2014-04-19 15:21 Dainesl: there are two inherited points here
2014-04-19 15:21 Nwolf: Just in Inner, right
2014-04-19 15:22 Dainesl: no
2014-04-19 15:22 Nwolf: o
2014-04-19 15:22 Dainesl: make sure to only have one inherited point for kiai start in every diff
2014-04-19 15:22 Dainesl: also increase the volume since the song's like, really loud
2014-04-19 15:23 Dainesl: generally maybe about 80-90%
2014-04-19 15:23 Nwolf: hm k
2014-04-19 15:23 Dainesl: and after that we'll start with the mod
2014-04-19 15:28 Nwolf: k finished
2014-04-19 15:28 Nwolf: Most kiai and non-kiai parts have 85% now
2014-04-19 15:28 Dainesl: that's fine
2014-04-19 15:29 Dainesl: ACTION is editing [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/318445 Comp - Gensou no Satellite [Kantan]]
2014-04-19 15:29 Dainesl: 00:23:296 (10) - maybe make this a don instead of a kat? would add variety and there's a low-pitched drum in the background
2014-04-19 15:29 Nwolf: k
2014-04-19 15:30 Dainesl: 00:26:296 (13) - hard cymbal here, K maybe?
2014-04-19 15:30 Nwolf: would prefer to change 7 to don instead
2014-04-19 15:30 Nwolf: or no
2014-04-19 15:30 Dainesl: hm
2014-04-19 15:31 Nwolf: or 7 and 13 K, 4 and 10 d
2014-04-19 15:31 Dainesl: yes that would work best
2014-04-19 15:31 Dainesl: 7+13 K 4+10 d
2014-04-19 15:31 Nwolf: theeen it's changed now
2014-04-19 15:33 Dainesl: btw are you mainly following the vocals or the instruments in this map
2014-04-19 15:33 Nwolf: think Kantan is mostly following instruments
2014-04-19 15:33 Dainesl: since i wanna be able to give appropiate suggestions
2014-04-19 15:34 Dainesl: 00:53:817 - you know when you hear something like this?
2014-04-19 15:34 Dainesl: do you prefer to keep it k or do you think it'd fit better as K?
2014-04-19 15:34 Nwolf: hm?
2014-04-19 15:35 Dainesl: again, for better quality of suggestions
2014-04-19 15:35 Nwolf: K
2014-04-19 15:35 Dainesl: since you put k here
2014-04-19 15:35 Dainesl: and K in the next one
2014-04-19 15:35 Dainesl: k in the last one
2014-04-19 15:35 Dainesl: so yeah just saying
2014-04-19 15:36 Dainesl: just check all of those moments
2014-04-19 15:36 Dainesl: and change them to K
2014-04-19 15:37 Nwolf: I'll keep the ones after 4 beats as k (except in the first kiai, because half length)
2014-04-19 15:37 Dainesl: ok :3
2014-04-19 15:37 Dainesl: this will apply to other diffs to so ye
2014-04-19 15:37 Nwolf: thought I put finishers everywhere in the other diffs because drums
2014-04-19 15:38 Dainesl: 00:52:774 (11,12) - in terms of instruments this is low-pitch but in terms of vocals this is high pitch
2014-04-19 15:38 Dainesl: follow the instruments or the vocal here
2014-04-19 15:39 Nwolf: changing those to dons and 13 back to k
2014-04-19 15:39 Dainesl: apply that to00:55:904 (15,16,17) -
2014-04-19 15:40 Nwolf: k
2014-04-19 15:42 Dainesl: 01:21:991 (26,27) - low-pitch instruments here
2014-04-19 15:43 Dainesl: maybe change them to d 'cause of that reason?
2014-04-19 15:43 Nwolf: k
2014-04-19 15:43 Nwolf: yeah
2014-04-19 15:43 Dainesl: 01:36:600 (9,10,11) - sudden 1/1 ._.
2014-04-19 15:44 Dainesl: remove 10 maybe?
2014-04-19 15:45 Nwolf: eh I wanted 1/1 triplets somewhere in the map so Futsuu is not waaaay harder than Kantan
2014-04-19 15:45 Dainesl: ok then
2014-04-19 15:45 Dainesl: 01:40:774 (15,16,17) - maybe change 15 to k since it's a higher pitch than 16 which is k?
2014-04-19 15:46 Nwolf: and right after the kiai there is 1/1 kdd
2014-04-19 15:47 Nwolf: hm yes
2014-04-19 15:47 Dainesl: 01:45:991 (1,1) - imo these are too close together
2014-04-19 15:48 Dainesl: lower the spinner length by 1/1 perhaps?
2014-04-19 15:48 Nwolf: yeah
2014-04-19 15:49 Dainesl: 02:11:035 (34) - low pitch here, both vocal and instrument.
2014-04-19 15:50 Nwolf: ok
2014-04-19 15:50 Nwolf: traded 35 and 36 too
2014-04-19 15:50 Dainesl: k
2014-04-19 15:50 Dainesl: 02:14:165 (37,38,39) - d k k for a transition into the kiai
2014-04-19 15:51 Nwolf: k
2014-04-19 15:51 Dainesl: 02:28:774 (15,16) - swap? would flow more nicely imo
2014-04-19 15:52 Nwolf: isn't that the same as 15,16 from last kiai?
2014-04-19 15:52 Dainesl: lemme see
2014-04-19 15:52 Dainesl: oh ye it is nvm
2014-04-19 15:52 Dainesl: it's fine that suggestion is not needed anymore -w-
2014-04-19 15:52 Nwolf: changed both with kdk
2014-04-19 15:53 Nwolf: *to
2014-04-19 15:53 Dainesl: 02:41:817 - add a k here? it's awkward without one imo
2014-04-19 15:54 Dainesl: 02:42:861 (35) - if applied, remove this note to prevent too high difficulty compared to the rest of the map
2014-04-19 15:56 Nwolf: ok
2014-04-19 15:56 Dainesl: 02:50:165 (46,47,48) - this might play awkwardly for new players (ddK ;w;)
2014-04-19 15:56 Dainesl: maybe make it ddk or d K
2014-04-19 15:57 Nwolf: ddk it is
2014-04-19 15:58 Dainesl: suddenly in last kiai 7 2/1s in a row
2014-04-19 15:58 Dainesl: a lot of them
2014-04-19 15:58 Nwolf: 02:38:165 (28,29,30,31,32,33,34) -
2014-04-19 15:58 Nwolf: yeah
2014-04-19 15:59 Nwolf: what do
2014-04-19 16:00 Dainesl: break them up into 3 break 3, 1 break 5 or 5 break 1
2014-04-19 16:00 Dainesl: 03:18:339 (5) - remove this one perhaps?
2014-04-19 16:00 Dainesl: unless you think it's a key vocal bit...
2014-04-19 16:01 Nwolf: well the first vocal phrase goes from 1 -> 4 and the other one from 4 -> 8 so I deleted 3 instead
2014-04-19 16:01 Dainesl: although really it's not that bad so w/e
2014-04-19 16:02 Dainesl: 03:25:643 (18) - maybe remove this for consistency with other kiais?
2014-04-19 16:03 Nwolf: k
2014-04-19 16:04 Dainesl: 03:38:687 (32,33,34,35,36) - maybe remove 33 and 35 for a simpler pattern?
2014-04-19 16:04 Dainesl: it'll be 3/3 then 2/2
2014-04-19 16:04 Dainesl: *3/1 then 2/1 gg me
2014-04-19 16:05 Nwolf:
http://puu.sh/8eYPG.jpg does that look good
2014-04-19 16:07 Dainesl: [http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/1527360 i was intending on it looking like this]
2014-04-19 16:07 Dainesl: it flows better with the music imo
2014-04-19 16:07 Dainesl: ACTION is editing [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/318444 Comp - Gensou no Satellite [Futsuu]]
2014-04-19 16:07 Dainesl: ok
2014-04-19 16:08 Nwolf: k
2014-04-19 16:08 Dainesl: 00:16:921 (5) - i think this could still work as a k
2014-04-19 16:09 Nwolf: yes
2014-04-19 16:09 Dainesl: 00:18:046 (7,8) - very high pitch here, make these k
2014-04-19 16:10 Nwolf: but my beautiful k then d system D:
2014-04-19 16:10 Dainesl: ;w;
2014-04-19 16:11 Dainesl: hold on
2014-04-19 16:11 Dainesl: you could keep 8 as d maybe??
2014-04-19 16:11 Nwolf: hm why
2014-04-19 16:11 Dainesl: 00:22:921 (15,16) - where is your system here
2014-04-19 16:11 Dainesl:
2014-04-19 16:12 Nwolf: eeeeeeeerm #blameloctav2014
2014-04-19 16:12 Dainesl: k
2014-04-19 16:12 Nwolf: ook changed 7 and 8 to kats
2014-04-19 16:14 Dainesl: make 15 a don at least ;;
2014-04-19 16:14 Nwolf: don
2014-04-19 16:15 Dainesl: yes
2014-04-19 16:15 Nwolf: (e)
2014-04-19 16:15 Dainesl: ok
2014-04-19 16:15 Dainesl: 00:25:921 (20) - maybe this should be a don as the pitch is quite low here?
2014-04-19 16:16 Nwolf: think kD is easier to play though
2014-04-19 16:16 Nwolf: brb
2014-04-19 16:16 Dainesl: ok
2014-04-19 16:18 Nwolf: woof
2014-04-19 16:20 Dainesl: ok
2014-04-19 16:20 Dainesl: 00:33:796 (33,34,35,36) - all relatively the same pitch, make them all k maybe?
2014-04-19 16:21 Dainesl: would make for a simpler pattern imo
2014-04-19 16:22 Nwolf: k
2014-04-19 16:22 Dainesl: kiai time 1 feels a bit empty in terms of vocal mapping there's sudden 4/1 gaps ;w;
2014-04-19 16:23 Nwolf: yeah think I did that to avoid making Futsuu too dense and therefore too hard compared to Kantan
2014-04-19 16:23 Dainesl: well you could fill it with 2/1
2014-04-19 16:24 Nwolf: hm ok
2014-04-19 16:24 Dainesl: it's easier than the bit just after ;w;
2014-04-19 16:25 Nwolf: holy shit I just noticed so many errors in Futsuu's kiai it's not funny anymore
2014-04-19 16:25 Dainesl: why did you map the bit after the first kiai the way you did
2014-04-19 16:26 Dainesl: it's like it has the style that people would consider a Kantan but it has the density of a Futsuu+ ;;
2014-04-19 16:26 Dainesl: brb
2014-04-19 16:27 Dainesl: back
2014-04-19 16:27 Nwolf: idk why I mapped it the way I did, it happened 5 months ago and I think I found it hard to map
2014-04-19 16:27 Nwolf: wb
2014-04-19 16:28 Dainesl: make it a bit less dense and follow the downbeat ;;
2014-04-19 16:28 Dainesl: 'cause 01:19:643 (76,77,78,79) - is awkward
2014-04-19 16:29 Nwolf: everything until I stopped mapping that way is awkward
2014-04-19 16:29 Dainesl: ;w;
2014-04-19 16:29 Dainesl: 01:25:904 (89) - high-pitch vocal, maybe make it a kat?
2014-04-19 16:30 Nwolf:
http://puu.sh/8f082.jpg looks good?
2014-04-19 16:30 Nwolf: yeah changed
2014-04-19 16:30 Dainesl: sure
2014-04-19 16:31 Dainesl: 01:38:426 (22) - aaaaaaa why u do dis ;w;
2014-04-19 16:32 Nwolf: blame hata
2014-04-19 16:32 Nwolf: *hides*
2014-04-19 16:33 Nwolf: guess you want a kat there right
2014-04-19 16:33 Dainesl: ye
2014-04-19 16:33 Nwolf: and 29 too
2014-04-19 16:33 Dainesl: and 26
2014-04-19 16:33 Dainesl: 01:40:513 (26) -
2014-04-19 16:33 Nwolf: yeah numbers are different because I mapped the 4/1 breaks
2014-04-19 16:34 Dainesl: 01:41:556 (29) - but this could be a don to transition into 30? -w-
2014-04-19 16:34 Nwolf: yeah actually like that
2014-04-19 16:35 Dainesl: same thing as first after-kiai
2014-04-19 16:35 Dainesl: why u map like this ;w;
2014-04-19 16:35 Nwolf: nwolf maps crap futsuu completly changed
2014-04-19 16:35 Nwolf: idk
2014-04-19 16:35 Nwolf: punch the me of 5 months ago
2014-04-19 16:35 Dainesl: ACTION punches 5-months-ago Nwolf
2014-04-19 16:36 Nwolf: ow ;_;
2014-04-19 16:36 Dainesl: 02:07:643 (43,44,45,46) -
2014-04-19 16:36 Dainesl: same deal as before
2014-04-19 16:37 Dainesl: 02:20:165 (7) - kat please
2014-04-19 16:37 Dainesl: 02:26:426 (22) - whee
2014-04-19 16:38 Nwolf: why did I map this
2014-04-19 16:38 Dainesl: because you wanted to?
2014-04-19 16:38 Dainesl: also it's starred so keep goin
2014-04-19 16:38 Dainesl: *going
2014-04-19 16:38 Nwolf: yeha
2014-04-19 16:40 Dainesl: 02:43:643 (65,66) - ??? the only 230 BPM 1/2 in this
2014-04-19 16:41 Nwolf: lol
2014-04-19 16:41 Dainesl: 03:20:948 (16) - high pitch here k pls :<
2014-04-19 16:41 Dainesl: 03:24:861 (27) - 03:26:948 (32) - ok
2014-04-19 16:41 what about 4 *hides*
2014-04-19 16:42 Dainesl: no, vocal's low pitch here
2014-04-19 16:42 Nwolf: ...yes
2014-04-19 16:42 Nwolf: can you explain to me why the first half of the last kiai is mapped harder than the 2nd
2014-04-19 16:42 Dainesl: uhhhhhhhh
2014-04-19 16:43 Dainesl: no i can't
2014-04-19 16:43 Dainesl: 03:27:730 (34,35) - dons please, would make a nice transition into the last bt
2014-04-19 16:43 Dainesl: *bit
2014-04-19 16:43 Dainesl: 03:40:774 (1) - why is this spinner here????
2014-04-19 16:44 Nwolf: Notes are way too boring!
2014-04-19 16:44 Dainesl: OK!
2014-04-19 16:45 Nwolf:
http://puu.sh/8f0YI.jpg better now
2014-04-19 16:45 Nwolf: first don is where spinner started
2014-04-19 16:45 Dainesl: yey
2014-04-19 16:46 Dainesl: should i re-check Muzu too or not
2014-04-19 16:46 Dainesl: i'm lazy atm ;;
2014-04-19 16:46 Nwolf: idk
2014-04-19 16:46 Nwolf: should I upload futsuu first so you can look at the new stupidly mapped parts after 1st and 2nd kiai
2014-04-19 16:47 Dainesl: no
2014-04-19 16:47 Dainesl: i'm not re-re-checking this map
2014-04-19 16:47 Nwolf: k
2014-04-19 16:47 Nwolf: then thanks :3
2014-04-19 16:47 Dainesl: oh you uploaded anyways
2014-04-19 16:47 Dainesl: well i'ma check Muzukashii anyways
2014-04-19 16:47 Nwolf: k
2014-04-19 16:48 Nwolf: muzu perfect nwolf best muzu mapper 201X
2014-04-19 16:48 Dainesl: 00:16:921 (6) - ok maybe make this a k since the pitch is quite high
2014-04-19 16:48 Nwolf: fak
2014-04-19 16:48 Dainesl: 01:29:165 - no, don't put 2 inherited points in a row here >_>
2014-04-19 16:49 Nwolf: yeah
2014-04-19 16:49 Dainesl: don't let AIMod see
2014-04-19 16:49 Nwolf: I think it was a little bit buggy when I did that because the first note of the kiai didn't speed up correctly
2014-04-19 16:49 Nwolf: buuuuut I think it's fixed
2014-04-19 16:50 Dainesl: ;w;
2014-04-19 16:51 Dainesl: 00:22:921 (18) - d for consistency with previous pattern
2014-04-19 16:51 Nwolf: k
2014-04-19 16:51 Dainesl: 00:33:796 (40,41,42,43,44,45,46,47,48,49,50,51,52,53,1) - suddenly so many notes omg
2014-04-19 16:52 Nwolf: it's just 160 BPM 1/2
2014-04-19 16:52 Nwolf: 00:36:233 (51) - deleted this note ok
2014-04-19 16:52 Dainesl: ok!
2014-04-19 16:52 Dainesl: 00:54:469 (30,31) - swap, vocal suggests kd here
2014-04-19 16:53 Nwolf: but dk dk is way cooler
2014-04-19 16:53 Dainesl: 00:56:948 (1) - why a spinner here when none was present in the kantan+futsuu
2014-04-19 16:53 Dainesl: also no, dk kd has variety and still flows well -w-
2014-04-19 16:53 Nwolf: ...blah changed :<
2014-04-19 16:53 Nwolf: Because notes are way too mainstream
2014-04-19 16:53 Nwolf: (aka I have no idea)
2014-04-19 16:54 Dainesl: 01:28:774 - this gap feels a bit awkward to me
2014-04-19 16:54 Nwolf: don?
2014-04-19 16:54 Dainesl: sure
2014-04-19 16:55 Dainesl: i just realised there are no 2/1 breaks in the Kiais
2014-04-19 16:55 Dainesl: 01:36:600 (34,35,36,37) - oh god why
2014-04-19 16:56 Dainesl: ;w;
2014-04-19 16:56 Nwolf: blue tick felt lonely
2014-04-19 16:56 Dainesl: ;w;
2014-04-19 16:56 Dainesl: 01:47:687 (84) - maybe remove this? it'd work better for a Muzu imo
2014-04-19 16:56 Nwolf: smooooch had no 2/1 breaks neither!
2014-04-19 16:56 Nwolf: ...
2014-04-19 16:56 Dainesl: but smooooch is 177 BPM
2014-04-19 16:56 Dainesl: this is 230
2014-04-19 16:57 Nwolf: oh yeah
2014-04-19 16:57 Dainesl: so 2/1 breaks are something that is quite necessary in Muzu and below
2014-04-19 16:57 Dainesl: definitely in Kantan+Futsuu (which were chock-full of them)
2014-04-19 16:57 Nwolf: oh yeah I didn't want to add that note but forgot to defend myself against Love : D
2014-04-19 16:57 Dainesl: ;w;
2014-04-19 16:58 Nwolf: 01:33:209 (18) - delete then?
2014-04-19 16:58 Dainesl: yeah, doesn't really need to be there
2014-04-19 16:58 Nwolf: just wanna make sure before I make breaks
2014-04-19 16:58 Dainesl: 01:41:556 (57) - and delete this maybe
2014-04-19 16:59 Dainesl: 02:08:426 - lonely white tick :c
2014-04-19 17:00 Nwolf: ok ok
2014-04-19 17:00 Dainesl: 02:28:382 (52,53) - kd please -w-
2014-04-19 17:01 Dainesl: did you copy/paste for the Kiai
2014-04-19 17:01 Nwolf: copy/paste + change some notes/patterns yes
2014-04-19 17:02 Dainesl: 03:09:209 (112,113) - uhhhh
2014-04-19 17:02 Dainesl: why are these finishers here
2014-04-19 17:02 Dainesl: 03:11:295 (117,118) - 03:13:382 (122,123) - same with these
2014-04-19 17:03 Nwolf: aaah because of the beginning of the 230 BPM section
2014-04-19 17:03 Nwolf: 00:41:296 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - those were all finishers
2014-04-19 17:03 Nwolf: and the part you mentioned is pretty much the same again
2014-04-19 17:03 Dainesl: 03:14:687 (1) - again, spinner present where it shouldn't be
2014-04-19 17:04 Nwolf: k kdk k
2014-04-19 17:04 Dainesl: 03:18:469 (14) - d pls :<
2014-04-19 17:05 Nwolf: ja
2014-04-19 17:05 Dainesl: and that's it
2014-04-19 17:05 Dainesl: will post in the thread now
2014-04-19 17:05 Nwolf: 00:41:296 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - I miss my finishers ;_;
2014-04-19 17:05 Dainesl: ;_;
2014-04-19 17:05 Dainesl: they didn't fit tho
2014-04-19 17:06 Nwolf: I think they did but I guess now too many people complained D: