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Comp - Gensou no Satellite [Taiko]

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Topic Starter
Nwolf
This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on Donnerstag, 22. Mai 2014 at 19:47:11

Artist: Comp
Title: Gensou no Satellite
Tags: 幻想ホモ・ルーデンス magical astronomy buta-otome homo ludens greenwich in the sky ranko ZUN team shanghai alice touhou fantasy
BPM: 80
Filesize: 5697kb
Play Time: 03:42
Difficulties Available:
  1. Futsuu (3,25 stars, 419 notes)
  2. Inner Oni (4,89 stars, 1320 notes)
  3. Kantan (1,1 stars, 243 notes)
  4. Muzukashii (4,61 stars, 692 notes)
  5. Oni (4,78 stars, 995 notes)
Download: Comp - Gensou no Satellite
Information: Scores/Beatmap Listing
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BPM 80-230!
Dainesl
Goddamn the Inner Oni is EVIL ;w; but really fun

my score
Topic Starter
Nwolf
hehe
Dainesl
Taiko mod request via queue (only modding Kantan to Muzukashii).

General

ehhhh make the Oni have HP and OD 5 instead

also there's a Kiai flash somewhere, fix that.

Kantan

00:20:296 (7) - make this a finish to fit the instrument? it'd work really well ;w;

00:32:296 (19) - same here

00:49:643 (6) - make this D instead of k to signal the beginning of the Kiai

00:53:817 (11) - K instead?

02:08:948 (26) - either k or D to fit the snare here~

03:14:687 (69) - This is the only time in the song that this sort of thing happens, make it a K to emphasize

the emphasis on kats kinda bugs me but maybe that can't be helped

Futsuu

01:33:469 (11) - a K would work so well here!

02:03:991 (78,79,80) - the last pattern had one note on the downbeat, maybe try it here too for consistency and with every two patterns or something

02:50:165 (87,88,89) - 03:30:600 (42,43,44) - oh god why 1/2 triplets on a futsuu

03:38:687 (52) - also make this a K

03:42:469 (1) - move to 03:42:339 -

Muzukashii

03:42:078 (104,105) - oh god you need to fix this ASAP

other than that reeeeeally nice Muzu ;w;

i give star to you!
Topic Starter
Nwolf

Dainesl wrote:

Taiko mod request via queue (only modding Kantan to Muzukashii).

General

ehhhh make the Oni have HP and OD 5 instead hm yeah

also there's a Kiai flash somewhere, fix that. That's just AImod screwing around, it's either the first (short) KIAI section or the fact that I started the last KIAI a bit earlier because sv changes

Kantan

00:20:296 (7) - make this a finish to fit the instrument? it'd work really well ;w; K

00:32:296 (19) - same here K

00:49:643 (6) - make this D instead of k to signal the beginning of the Kiai I don't want to have kat and don in a 2/1 combo so early (mostly because of the BPM)

00:53:817 (11) - K instead? Changed (6) to K and kept this

02:08:948 (26) - either k or D to fit the snare here~ Also fits better in combination with the rest so yes :3

03:14:687 (69) - This is the only time in the song that this sort of thing happens, make it a K to emphasize k

the emphasis on kats kinda bugs me but maybe that can't be helped my style rocks go away ;_; (Wanted to have a map that is friendly for beginners, had some people that never played Taiko or only 1/2 times play the map and they got through it quite well and that's what I wanted to have : D)

Futsuu

01:33:469 (11) - a K would work so well here! hm yes

02:03:991 (78,79,80) - the last pattern had one note on the downbeat, maybe try it here too for consistency and with every two patterns or something I think I had my reasons to map it like this, keeping this in my mind for future mods

02:50:165 (87,88,89) - 03:30:600 (42,43,44) - oh god why 1/2 triplets on a futsuu I have no idea

03:38:687 (52) - also make this a K okey

03:42:469 (1) - move to 03:42:339 - why is this even here

Muzukashii

03:42:078 (104,105) - oh god you need to fix this ASAP how did I do this

other than that reeeeeally nice Muzu ;w; thanks :3

i give star to you! thanks²
hibarirailwayz
via my M4M queue

[Futsuu]
  1. 00:14:296 ~ 00:36:796 - I can't any suggestion, because it's impossible for me to understand whichi sound do you want to use. And I think, players don't understand either.
  2. Overall, you use too many "k" notes. This is not kind for beginner players, because clicking keyboard with middle finger is more difficult than using index finger.
    In the other reason, using so many "k" is become unclear where you'd like to emphasize.
  3. If I mod one point, I must pick up too many points and, this map became not yours. If you need, Please call me in game chat...
[Oni]
  1. 00:16:358 (11) - remove or 00:17:296 - add d. if you follow the drum sound, you should adopt latter( add d). The present status is not good.
  2. 00:51:209 (17) - d? This point of the voice is lower pitch than former and latter note's points.
  3. 01:30:687 (11) - ^
  4. 01:34:861 (37) - ^
  5. 02:18:687 (11) - ^
  6. 02:22:861 (37) - ^
  7. 03:08:774 (77) - ^
  8. 03:17:122 (129) - ^
  9. 03:21:296 (155) - ^
  10. 01:26:687 (125) - if you completely use the voice sound, this note doesn't need. this is follwing the drum sound.
  11. 01:39:382 (65) - d? following the pitchi of the voice.
  12. 02:27:382 (65) - ^
  13. 03:25:817 (183) - ^
  14. 02:32:948 (98,99,100,101) - this is not interesting. suggestion "k---k---k---d"→"k-k---kkk-d-k"
  15. 02:38:035 (129) - remove. In this point=02:37:904 - former part finished, and going same notes, in this part "k k d", is not good.
  16. 03:15:469 (118) - d? I like better.
  17. 03:41:752 - completely suggestion; add k?
nice song~
Thanks M4M~
Good luck! :)
Asagi Mutsuki
Mod requested by Nwolf! OBVIOUSLY.

Such a long song for my modding abilities >.<

Fun fact: my computer hang(ed) 3 times and i had to type everything from stratch thrice. FUCK.

[General]
I think the change of SV multiplier would be quite confusing for Kantan and Futsuu players. Better make it the same.maybe change all non-kiai to x0.6 and kiai to x0.8?
Delete any unused green lines if you used my above mod
IMO the last kiai should start at 03:15:730 cos thats the point where every other kiai starts :P

[Kantan]
01:10:513 to 01:12:078 - change to spinner? fits music more
01:12:600 - change to D? music is much lower than before
01:40:774 - make it d for consistency with 01:32:426 (4,5,6)
01:52:252 - change to K? accent in music
02:00:600 - ^
02:02:426 - add d for consistency with similar parts before and after such as 02:06:339 (21,22,23) and 01:57:991 (10,11,12)
02:08:948 - change to K? accent in music
02:28:774 - change to d? same as 01:40:774
02:42:339 (34,35,36,37,38,39,40,41,42,43,44,45) - imo this part this part is too hard compared to other parts in the song

Erm...overall kantan is ok...but it has simply too much kats imo, you might want to change some of it to don i've put as less "change to d" as i could :P

[Futsuu]
00:51:209 and 00:55:382 - change to d while 00:53:295 - change to k? vocal pitch is lower at first two point while higher at the third one
01:08:165 (48,49,50) - this part feels awkward to play imo... move 01:08:687 to 01:08:426 and add k at 01:08:948?
01:16:513 (70,71,72) - ^ move 01:17:035 to 01:16:643 and add k at 01:17:295?
01:24:600 - add k? follow the vocal
01:30:861 (5,10,15) - same as first mod, change (5) and (15) to d and (10) to k?
02:18:861 (5,10,15) - ^
02:20:165 - change to k for consistency with every other similar parts like 01:32:165 (8,9) and 00:52:513 (15,16)

[Muzukashii]
Apply the mods in the box if you're following the vocal:
SPOILER
00:56:295 - add k?
01:10:122 - add d?
01:14:035 - add k?
01:14:295 - add d?
01:18:469 - ^
01:53:948 - ^
01:58:122 - add k?
02:02:035 - ^
02:02:295 - ^
02:06:469 - add d?
00:36:421 - change to k? sounds better imo
00:49:122 (7) - why did you snap this on a 1/8 beat O_O move the end to 00:49:513
01:36:795 - the note is offbeat (following the vocal), move it 1/4 earlier
01:36:991 - ^
02:24:795 - ^
02:24:926 - ^
03:23:230 - ^
03:23:361 - ^ I ran out of things to find

[Oni]
00:51:991 - add d? fits vocal more
00:58:122 - delete note? there is no obvious sound in music
01:20:295 - change to k? plays better imo
01:47:165 - change to k? music pitch is quite high
01:47:556 - ^
01:50:426 - add d? following drum sound in music
02:16:774 - add k? there is piano sound in music
02:41:426 - add k? sounds better imo
02:41:556 (145,146) - move these 1/4 later? fits piano more


[Inner Oni]
00:31:452 - add d and 00:31:733 - add k for consistency with similar parts before
00:35:296 - delete note? there isnt really any obvious sound in music
00:47:295 (5,6,7) - make it like 00:45:209 (3,4) ? there isnt any difference imo
01:47:165 - same as Oni
01:47:556 - ^

Phew, done!
Good luck getting this ranked!
Topic Starter
Nwolf
hibarirailwayz

hibarirailwayz wrote:

via my M4M queue

[Futsuu]
  1. 00:14:296 ~ 00:36:796 - I can't any suggestion, because it's impossible for me to understand whichi sound do you want to use. And I think, players don't understand either. Don't see any problems here
  2. Overall, you use too many "k" notes. This is not kind for beginner players, because clicking keyboard with middle finger is more difficult than using index finger.
    In the other reason, using so many "k" is become unclear where you'd like to emphasize. Mostly higher notes, I admit that I overused kats sometimes but I think many of them fit where they are
  3. If I mod one point, I must pick up too many points and, this map became not yours. If you need, Please call me in game chat...
[Oni]
  1. 00:16:358 (11) - remove or 00:17:296 - add d. if you follow the drum sound, you should adopt latter( add d). The present status is not good. removed
  2. 00:51:209 (17) - d? This point of the voice is lower pitch than former and latter note's points. Keeping it as it is because it's that wy in all diffs and I think k fits better
  3. 01:26:687 (125) - if you completely use the voice sound, this note doesn't need. this is follwing the drum sound. That's actually wrong, there are vocals here too
  4. 01:39:382 (65) - d? following the pitchi of the voice. same reason as 00:51:209
  5. 02:32:948 (98,99,100,101) - this is not interesting. suggestion "k---k---k---d"→"k-k---kkk-d-k" Got a point here, used without the kkk triplet though because I don't really want 1/4 triplets in the Oni
  6. 02:38:035 (129) - remove. In this point=02:37:904 - former part finished, and going same notes, in this part "k k d", is not good. jo
  7. 03:15:469 (118) - d? I like better. no, want to keep this pattern.
  8. 03:41:752 - completely suggestion; add k? I tried someting similar in the Inner diff, didn't sound that good IMO
nice song~
Thanks M4M~
Good luck! :) thanks : )

cdhsausageboy

cdhsausageboy wrote:

Mod requested by Nwolf! OBVIOUSLY.

Such a long song for my modding abilities >.<

Fun fact: my computer hang(ed) 3 times and i had to type everything from stratch thrice. FUCK.

[General]
I think the change of SV multiplier would be quite confusing for Kantan and Futsuu players. Better make it the same.maybe change all non-kiai to x0.6 and kiai to x0.8? I way trying to think of something to make it different for these diffs but I just couldn't think of a solution, gonna use this now (if a few changes to make it easier to read) thanks :3
Delete any unused green lines if you used my above mod
IMO the last kiai should start at 03:15:730 cos thats the point where every other kiai starts :P Want to accent the scream so I'll keep it

[Kantan]
01:10:513 to 01:12:078 - change to spinner? fits music more nah, don't like spinners in the middle of something (yes I know it's the end of the phrase but it's still in the middle of something for me)
01:12:600 - change to D? music is much lower than before Had this earlier, dunno why I changed that (changed a few kats to don as well)
01:40:774 - make it d for consistency with 01:32:426 (4,5,6) asjdkal
01:52:252 - change to K? accent in music --------------------------^
02:00:600 - ^ ^
02:02:426 - add d for consistency with similar parts before and after such as 02:06:339 (21,22,23) and 01:57:991 (10,11,12) hm yeah
02:08:948 - change to K? accent in music yup
02:28:774 - change to d? same as 01:40:774
02:42:339 (34,35,36,37,38,39,40,41,42,43,44,45) - imo this part this part is too hard compared to other parts in the song 2nd note comes now on a white beat

Erm...overall kantan is ok...but it has simply too much kats imo, you might want to change some of it to don i've put as less "change to d" as i could :P nu Kats are awesome and they actually fit better than dons (most of the time)

[Futsuu]
00:51:209 and 00:55:382 - change to d while 00:53:295 - change to k? vocal pitch is lower at first two point while higher at the third one yeah
01:08:165 (48,49,50) - this part feels awkward to play imo... move 01:08:687 to 01:08:426 and add k at 01:08:948? Did something else (I think) but have to agree with this one. Don't ask me why I did it like this.
01:16:513 (70,71,72) - ^ move 01:17:035 to 01:16:643 and add k at 01:17:295? ^
01:24:600 - add k? follow the vocal added d instead, changed a note to kat (oh god)

[Muzukashii]
Apply the mods in the box if you're following the vocal:
SPOILER
00:56:295 - add k? ja
01:10:122 - add d? nah, think that this fits too and I don't want to have too many 1/2 notes in Muzu, they are basically 115 BPM 1/4 and that's quite fast actually
01:14:035 - add k? ^
01:14:295 - add d? ^
01:18:469 - ^ ^ (skipping everything that I didn't change from here, mostly because "consistency")
00:36:421 - change to k? sounds better imo hm yeah
00:49:122 (7) - why did you snap this on a 1/8 beat O_O move the end to 00:49:513 I didn't do this :<
01:36:795 - the note is offbeat (following the vocal), move it 1/4 earlier So I spent such a long time wondering if it's a 1/3 triplet or something on a blue tick to find out that the only possibility I didn't try fits better ;_;
01:36:991 - ^ ^ ;_;
I ran out of things to find isn't that good?

[Oni]
00:51:991 - add d? fits vocal more Yeah I know it does, but I didn't want this diff to have 1/2 everywhere, even if they do fit quite often. (note that blue = might think about that in the future (for me it is at least))
00:58:122 - delete note? there is no obvious sound in music Guitar solo
01:20:295 - change to k? plays better imo yup
01:47:165 - change to k? music pitch is quite high nup
01:47:556 - ^ yup
01:50:426 - add d? following drum sound in music yup
02:16:774 - add k? there is piano sound in music I had a note here but I got rid of it because of the SV change and yes that's important to me
02:41:426 - add k? sounds better imo Okay
02:41:556 (145,146) - move these 1/4 later? fits piano more whaaaaaaaaat


[Inner Oni]
00:31:452 - add d and 00:31:733 - add k for consistency with similar parts before Did it quite similar to this suggestion
00:35:296 - delete note? there isnt really any obvious sound in music oops forgot that
00:47:295 (5,6,7) - make it like 00:45:209 (3,4) ? there isnt any difference imo Yeah
01:47:165 - same as Oni Same as Oni
01:47:556 - ^ ^

Phew, done!
Good luck getting this ranked! Thanks : )
toara_fict
Mod req from PM :3


[Muzu]
  1. BPM changes I think of it OD => 4 HP => 5 ?
  2. 01:10:252 (40) - d ( Think 01:10:513 (41) - This is high pitch
  3. 01:34:252 (23) - d
  4. 01:45:339 (74) - Del note ?
  5. 01:58:252 (26) - d
  6. 02:06:600 (56) - ^
  7. 02:21:861 (22) - Del
  8. 02:25:382 (38) - ^
  9. 02:30:861 (63) - d
  10. 02:33:991 (1) - K => D
  11. 02:45:469 (43) - ^
  12. 03:11:295 (117) - no BIG ?
  13. 03:13:382 (122) - ^
  14. 03:13:643 (123) - BIG k

[Oni]
  1. 00:17:796 (14,15,18,19) - k?
  2. 00:51:209 (17) - d
  3. 01:20:948 (98) - Del
  4. 01:22:252 (104,105,106) - kkd

  5. 01:30:861 (12,13) - dd
  6. 01:39:209 (65) - ^
  7. 02:18:861 (12,13) - ^
  8. 02:23:209 (39) - ^
  9. 02:27:209 (64,65) - ^
  10. 03:17:296 (130,131) - ^
  11. 03:21:644 (157) - ^
  12. 03:25:644 (182,183) - ^
  13. 03:29:991 (209) - ^


  14. 02:43:578 (160) - add k
  15. 02:52:904 (12) - d
  16. 02:54:991 (23) - ^
very fun map , but BPM change => acc ;__;

Good Luck :3
Topic Starter
Nwolf

toara_fict wrote:

Mod req from PM :3


[Muzu]
  1. BPM changes I think of it OD => 4 HP => 5 ? makes sense
  2. 01:10:252 (40) - d ( Think 01:10:513 (41) - This is high pitch eyup
  3. 01:34:252 (23) - d yeah
  4. 01:45:339 (74) - Del note ? no, want to have something on the drums here
  5. 01:58:252 (26) - d eyup
  6. 02:06:600 (56) - ^ I think this is different from the one above and that a kat fits more
  7. 02:21:861 (22) - Del yo
  8. 02:25:382 (38) - ^ Changed to d instead
  9. 02:30:861 (63) - d yup
  10. 02:33:991 (1) - K => D yup
  11. 02:45:469 (43) - ^ oh yeha
  12. 03:11:295 (117) - no BIG ? nope, have it before and after this to accent the piano a bit
  13. 03:13:382 (122) - ^ ^
  14. 03:13:643 (123) - BIG k fu made a mistake here thanks



[Oni]
  1. 00:17:796 (14,15,18,19) - k? nah, want to have a kat on the end only
  2. 00:51:209 (17) - d hm... ... ok
  3. 01:20:948 (98) - Del why?
  4. 01:22:252 (104,105,106) - kkd like it more as it is

  5. 01:30:861 (12,13) - dd 12 yes, 13 mp
  6. 01:39:209 (65) - ^ ^
    [^]


  7. 02:43:578 (160) - add k hm ok
  8. 02:52:904 (12) - d nah, fits vocals more imo
  9. 02:54:991 (23) - ^ ^
very fun map , but BPM change => acc ;__; reduced Kantan, Futsuu and Muzu OD by 1

Good Luck :3 thanks^^
DaxMasterix
Taiko'Mod at Request o3o

General

I recommend you +10% (Sound) for all your TimingPoints o3o.. Taiko Drums needs it 'A'

Inner Oni:
  1. 00:16:921 (15) - This must be a kat (For a simple reason: is the continuing of 00:16:171 (10) & 00:16:546 (13) (? :33 )
  2. 00:29:296 (66) - I don't have a good reason.. but this can be a kat, only because all the other similar object of the WhiteTicks are kat. I suggest you change this to a kat. o3o
  3. 00:33:889 (90) - Erase this note for the ''PatternSymmetry'' with 00:32:296 (79,80)
  4. 01:05:817 (14) - don
  5. 01:07:904 (31,32) - ''d k'' (?
  6. 01:10:122 (51) - don
  7. 01:14:165 (84) - don
  8. 01:16:252 (102,103) - ''d k'' (?
  9. 01:18:078 (117) - kat
  10. 01:18:339 (119) - don
  11. 01:18:861 (124) - kat
  12. 01:26:948 (172) - kat
  13. 01:50:948 (14,15,16,17,18) - This pattern need be ''k d d k'' Just 4 notes.
  14. 01:53:817 (33) - don
  15. 01:55:904 (49,50) - ''d k'' (?
  16. 01:58:252 (70) - don
  17. 02:02:165 (102) - don
  18. 02:17:165 (206) - This must be a kat.
  19. 02:42:730 (62) - This need be a kat.. (I see and in all the end of your patterns (Of this piano-part) the last object is a kat.. So.. Is the uniq valid reason I think..)
  20. 03:07:056 (77,78) - Erase this notes.
  21. 03:33:991 (x) - This was... Well.. Just put a note ''kat'' if you don't want is okay.. o3o Because the next spaces like 03:36:078 or 03:38:165 Don't have the object too.. So.. If you add 1, add all.. If not. Don't add anything.
Oni:
  1. 01:09:730 (34) - don
  2. 01:49:904 (118) - don
  3. 01:51:078 (x) - Add a note ''kat'' or ''don'' =u=
  4. 02:06:339 (78) - don
    - Short mod in this diff.. Looks nice so.. o3o
Muzukashii
  1. No Suggest here..
Kantan and Futsuu are fine too IMO.. So.. 3 diffs without mod = 5 stars for you.
4diffs = 7 stars
5diffs = 10 stars.


Ok that is all. I hope You will rank this very soon ;) If you need help with it I can try Help you or fin the ''help'' ewe No rly, This maps looks good and I love touhou lol

Good luck! :)
Topic Starter
Nwolf

DaxMasterix wrote:

Taiko'Mod at Request o3o

General

I recommend you +10% (Sound) for all your TimingPoints o3o.. Taiko Drums needs it 'A'
Gonna think about that^^

Inner Oni:
  1. 00:16:921 (15) - This must be a kat (For a simple reason: is the continuing of 00:16:171 (10) & 00:16:546 (13) (? :33 ) yeah
  2. 00:29:296 (66) - I don't have a good reason.. but this can be a kat, only because all the other similar object of the WhiteTicks are kat. I suggest you change this to a kat. o3o this one is lower than the other ones on white ticks and I like repeating something just to change it
  3. 00:33:889 (90) - Erase this note for the ''PatternSymmetry'' with 00:32:296 (79,80) I just had nothing between 79 and 80 because 79 is a big kat and I felt like it's better than having something there instead of a big kat
  4. 01:05:817 (14) - don think that a kat fits more
  5. 01:07:904 (31,32) - ''d k'' (? follows vocals more with k d
  6. 01:10:122 (51) - don yup
  7. 01:14:165 (84) - don nope
  8. 01:16:252 (102,103) - ''d k'' (? nope
  9. 01:18:078 (117) - kat yup
  10. 01:18:339 (119) - don yup
  11. 01:18:861 (124) - kat yup
  12. 01:26:948 (172) - kat nah, vocals don't go down on 173
  13. 01:50:948 (14,15,16,17,18) - This pattern need be ''k d d k'' Just 4 notes. changed to k k d k
  14. 01:53:817 (33) - don nope
  15. 01:55:904 (49,50) - ''d k'' (? nope
  16. 01:58:252 (70) - don yup
  17. 02:02:165 (102) - don nope
  18. 02:17:165 (206) - This must be a kat. yup
  19. 02:42:730 (62) - This need be a kat.. (I see and in all the end of your patterns (Of this piano-part) the last object is a kat.. So.. Is the uniq valid reason I think..) piano goes down here, so I'll keep it
  20. 03:07:056 (77,78) - Erase this notes. Maybe later
  21. 03:33:991 (x) - This was... Well.. Just put a note ''kat'' if you don't want is okay.. o3o Because the next spaces like 03:36:078 or 03:38:165 Don't have the object too.. So.. If you add 1, add all.. If not. Don't add anything. I had this in an earlier version but got rid of it because there is nothing in the music here
Oni:
  1. 01:09:730 (34) - don Don't get why you mentioned this one, there are many parts in the song that are like this, even before this one^^ Anyway, not changing it yet, might do that if somebody else mentions this too
  2. 01:49:904 (118) - don k
  3. 01:51:078 (x) - Add a note ''kat'' or ''don'' =u= lol there are drums here
  4. 02:06:339 (78) - don why, there are so many similar parts and you didn't say anything. And I think that a kat fits here better^^
    - Short mod in this diff.. Looks nice so.. o3o
Muzukashii
  1. No Suggest here.. woo
Kantan and Futsuu are fine too IMO.. So.. 3 diffs without mod = 5 stars for you. :O thanks!
4diffs = 7 stars
5diffs = 10 stars.


Ok that is all. I hope You will rank this very soon ;) If you need help with it I can try Help you or fin the ''help'' ewe No rly, This maps looks good and I love touhou lol

Good luck! :) thanks^^
Avena
Would you want an Overdose for this mapset? could fit in nicely :3
Coro
Taiko mod~
All are suggestions unless in red.

[General]
Unicode Title: 幻想のサテライト
Unicode Artist: コンプ

[Kantan]
00:43:382 (2,3,4) - add finishes maybe? Since the first has a finish.
03:39:078 and 03:39:861 - add d

[Futsuu]
02:52:904 (5) - move to 02:53:035, it sounds kinda weird as it is
02:54:991 (9) - move to 02:55:122, ^

[Muzukashii]
nothing~

[Oni]
01:49:382 - I think adding d here will complement the vocals better
03:38:817 (236,238,240,242) - - add finish

[Inner Oni]
00:35:296 - add d here and delete 00:35:483 (100) ? I feel it makes for better rhythm
03:38:817 (25,27,29,31) - add finish

nice map~
good luck for rank~
Topic Starter
Nwolf

CoroQuetz wrote:

Taiko mod~
All are suggestions unless in red.

[General]
Unicode Title: 幻想のサテライト
Unicode Artist: コンプ Don't know the use of this but okay^^

[Kantan]
00:43:382 (2,3,4) - add finishes maybe? Since the first has a finish. Think that the first one is stronger than the rest, but I gonna keep this in mind for later in case more people suggest this.
03:39:078 and 03:39:861 - add d hm okay

[Futsuu]
02:52:904 (5) - move to 02:53:035, it sounds kinda weird as it is not for me
02:54:991 (9) - move to 02:55:122, ^

[Muzukashii]
nothing~ yay

[Oni]
01:49:382 - I think adding d here will complement the vocals better yep
03:38:817 (236,238,240,242) - - add finish yo

[Inner Oni]
00:35:296 - add d here and delete 00:35:483 (100) ? I feel it makes for better rhythm no strings here
03:38:817 (25,27,29,31) - add finish yo

nice map~
good luck for rank~ thanks :3
Senritsu
Hi~
sorry for late mod uwu;;

General
Add "Gensou Homo Ludens" “幻想ホモ・ルーデンス” because that's the album name (does the kanji included? i don't know, just posting it there to make sure lols) and "Buta-Otome" since it's the producer or maker or whatever. wwww XD
Imo, too many green lines. I mean, it's only 5%, it doesn't change much >3>
And you don't need kiai here 03:14:687 because the refrain starts from 03:15:730

Kantan
HP 2 is too low imo, change to 3 or 4
00:26:296 (13) - why D here? following the pattern by changing this as K is better, and the cymbal too o3o
00:45:209 and 00:47:295 why not adding d there? notes at 1/1 are okay, as long as not too much and not too long
00:53:295 and 00:56:426 prefer these as d though, because no vocal there.. but k is okay too, just suggesting here :3
01:04:252 (5) - as the beginning of a new part of vocal, prefer as D here
01:20:948 (25) - change to D, due to the cymbal there
01:29:230 delete the green line because unnecessary there
01:33:469 (6) - K here, because the back music seems loud, same as 01:29:295 (1) -
01:37:643 (12,17) - ^
01:52:252 (3) - D, same reason as 01:04:252 (5) -
02:00:600 (15,27) - ^
02:21:469 (6,12,17) - same with 01:33:469 (6)
02:33:991 (22) - i like this as D though, because the music, but up to you XD
02:42:339 (34) - K. the cymbal is loud there
03:09:469 (65,66,67,68) - why are they not D? k seems too weak, remembering the guitar also sounds loud there, and the vocal is solo.
03:19:904 (6,12,17) - same with 01:33:469 (6)

Futsuu
00:20:296 (11) - K here. the cymbal sounds loud
00:32:296 (31) - ^
00:49:643 (8) - K. as the beginning of kiai and loud music
00:53:817 (18) - ^
01:04:252 (37) - D. because the music is loud here
01:12:600 (60) - reflecting ^, you need to make the same pattern
01:14:426 (65,66,67) - change to kdk, because at the vocal before, you use the same pattern. guess making the pattern same will be nice
02:46:513 (77) - add the finish because you add finish at 2 notes before this when the music is loud
02:50:687 (1) - ^
overall is nice, but too many notes imo. many 1/1 at 230 bpm for beginner is too hard. give them a break at some place

Muzukashii
00:32:296 (35) - add finish, following the cymbal as you did at before
00:53:817 (26) - ^
01:14:035 add k here, following the pattern next to it
01:33:469 (19) - add finish for the same reason as kantan and futsuu
01:41:817 (58) - ^
02:21:469 (19) - add finish
02:29:817 (58) - ^
03:01:122 (91) - change to k, because vocal is up and so does the bass
03:02:948 (96) - change to d ^
03:09:209 (112,113,117,118) - there, i will swap the finish. because, 112 and 117 are only a beginning of an ending guitar there, which is 113 and 118
03:14:687 i myself prefer to remove the spinner and change them to kkk kdd because it suits the drum. spinner there seems 'out' for me
03:28:252 (59) - add finish, due to the music

Oni
00:17:921 (15,19) - change to k because the music sounds higher there?
00:24:046 (38) - change to d, suits the whatever it is that sounds lower than 37
01:03:404 add d here? following the drum that sounds like a stream there ww
01:22:252 (104) - change to k, hear the guitar there sounds like low, high, low uwu
01:49:513 (116) - ^, the vocal sounds higher
01:51:730 (127,1) - swap them? sounds k D, k because the instrument there sounds weak, and D because the starter of a new music, and make it stronger than before
02:20:426 (23) - change to k for following the pattern you make before this
02:39:078 (131) - change to d?
02:42:339 (151) - add finish here, following the cymbal
02:46:513 (178) - ^
03:15:600 (119) - change to k, because the vocal is still same with 118
03:15:730 (120) - add finish here, or change to D because the starter of the new kiai

And i'm not modding the Inner Oni, because i just not good at it >_> remembering Dainesl said it was an evil lols and modding 3 diffs with 3 mins takes me 1 day lol
Good luck~ and have my star for the nice song~
Topic Starter
Nwolf

Senritsu wrote:

Hi~
sorry for late mod uwu;; tis okay

General
Add "Gensou Homo Ludens" “幻想ホモ・ルーデンス” because that's the album name (does the kanji included? i don't know, just posting it there to make sure lols) and "Buta-Otome" since it's the producer or maker or whatever. wwww XD yes
Imo, too many green lines. I mean, it's only 5%, it doesn't change much >3> no
And you don't need kiai here 03:14:687 because the refrain starts from 03:15:730 scream = strong

Kantan
HP 2 is too low imo, change to 3 or 4
00:26:296 (13) - why D here? following the pattern by changing this as K is better, and the cymbal too o3o
00:45:209 and 00:47:295 why not adding d there? notes at 1/1 are okay, as long as not too much and not too long
00:53:295 and 00:56:426 prefer these as d though, because no vocal there.. but k is okay too, just suggesting here :3
01:04:252 (5) - as the beginning of a new part of vocal, prefer as D here
01:20:948 (25) - change to D, due to the cymbal there
01:29:230 delete the green line because unnecessary there
01:33:469 (6) - K here, because the back music seems loud, same as 01:29:295 (1) -
01:37:643 (12,17) - ^
01:52:252 (3) - D, same reason as 01:04:252 (5) -
02:00:600 (15,27) - ^
02:21:469 (6,12,17) - same with 01:33:469 (6)
02:33:991 (22) - i like this as D though, because the music, but up to you XD
02:42:339 (34) - K. the cymbal is loud there
03:09:469 (65,66,67,68) - why are they not D? k seems too weak, remembering the guitar also sounds loud there, and the vocal is solo.
03:19:904 (6,12,17) - same with 01:33:469 (6)

Futsuu
00:20:296 (11) - K here. the cymbal sounds loud
00:32:296 (31) - ^
00:49:643 (8) - K. as the beginning of kiai and loud music
00:53:817 (18) - ^
01:04:252 (37) - D. because the music is loud here
01:12:600 (60) - reflecting ^, you need to make the same pattern
01:14:426 (65,66,67) - change to kdk, because at the vocal before, you use the same pattern. guess making the pattern same will be nice
02:46:513 (77) - add the finish because you add finish at 2 notes before this when the music is loud
02:50:687 (1) - ^
overall is nice, but too many notes imo. many 1/1 at 230 bpm for beginner is too hard. give them a break at some place breaks inserted

I swear I hate Chrome (I hate other browsers more), deleted my replies to your General, Kantan and Futsuu mod and I forgot what I changed or why ;_; Just note that I changed more in those diffs than in Muzu and Oni : P

Muzukashii
00:32:296 (35) - add finish, following the cymbal as you did at before yep
00:53:817 (26) - ^ Don't really like using big notes in the middle of a phrase
01:14:035 add k here, following the pattern next to it no..?
01:33:469 (19) - add finish for the same reason as kantan and futsuu Don't really like using big notes in the middle of a phrase
01:41:817 (58) - ^ ^
02:21:469 (19) - add finish ^
02:29:817 (58) - ^^
03:01:122 (91) - change to k, because vocal is up and so does the bass bass goes down and I'm following Oni here where I won't change anything in this part
03:02:948 (96) - change to d ^ why
03:09:209 (112,113,117,118) - there, i will swap the finish. because, 112 and 117 are only a beginning of an ending guitar there, which is 113 and 118 what
03:14:687 i myself prefer to remove the spinner and change them to kkk kdd because it suits the drum. spinner there seems 'out' for me maybe later
03:28:252 (59) - add finish, due to the music same reason as every finisher you want here

Oni
00:17:921 (15,19) - change to k because the music sounds higher there? no, it's the same with higher notes overall (and it doesn't play very well)
00:24:046 (38) - change to d, suits the whatever it is that sounds lower than 37 no
01:03:404 add d here? following the drum that sounds like a stream there ww It's in Inner
01:22:252 (104) - change to k, hear the guitar there sounds like low, high, low uwu Well I changed this, but for a different reason
01:49:513 (116) - ^, the vocal sounds higher 117 should have the only kat here imo
01:51:730 (127,1) - swap them? sounds k D, k because the instrument there sounds weak, and D because the starter of a new music, and make it stronger than before d K works for me too
02:20:426 (23) - change to k for following the pattern you make before this it's exactly the same
02:39:078 (131) - change to d? why
02:42:339 (151) - add finish here, following the cymbal In the middle of a 230 bpm 1/2 note pattern, with ?
02:46:513 (178) - ^ ^
03:15:600 (119) - change to k, because the vocal is still same with 118 It's one single scream
03:15:730 (120) - add finish here, or change to D because the starter of the new kiai added finish

And i'm not modding the Inner Oni, because i just not good at it >_> remembering Dainesl said it was an evil lols and modding 3 diffs with 3 mins takes me 1 day lol
Good luck~ and have my star for the nice song~ thanks^^
POONwing
01:29:295 (1) - the note here is not in gogotime
(gogotime starts from 1:29:296 and the note is at 1:29:295)

Wild map 0,0
tetsutaro


[General]
:!: Avoid using uncommon or rough apparent divisions if possible (like the aggregated HS0.514 and HS0.643 in Kantan basing off the "natural HS1" SV of 1.40). Stick to nicer fractions to enhance player judgement and avoid confusion, especially in the multiple mixed 8th/6th parts.
:!: Too small of a sofuran HS change for emphasis and hence ending up confusing.
:idea: Consider: Uniform HS0.5 to compensate for 230 BPM at lower levels and, if you really want to, pique up to HS0.75 or HS1 at emphasis points. Refer to authentic Otemoyan (3/5/6/7) on similar BPM/HS leverage, and authentic Hurtling Boys for more comprehensible sofuran hell schemes.
:!: Preview: 01:29:295
:idea: 03:14:687~03:15:730 - Suggests not to be Go-go Time

[Difficulties]
:idea: Perceived rating (not counting length): 1★ Kantan / 6★ Futsuu / 7★ Muzukashii / 8★ Oni / 10★ Ura Oni (ref. that Karamari no Hana is still 10★)
:!: <Kantan> is the odd outlier. Pump it up. :arrow: Achievement failed: No crappy Kantan
:!: Bad use of denden/drumroll: Do not break continuous (music) notes into separate (play) notes. <All diff> 00:36:796 (24,1) <Muzukashii/Oni/Ura Oni> 03:42:339 (105,1)
:!: Large notes mixed in apparent 16ths. Check with a BAT if you really^100 want to keep it. <Oni/Ura Oni> 00:32:296 (56)
:idea: <Kantan> On katsu-centric intros: 00:02:296~00:14:296 would have been a good place for katsu-centric intro if you want it mapped, but 00:14:296~00:26:296 is not. Refer to the likes of authentic D's Adventure Note for ideas.

Topic Starter
Nwolf

tetsutaro wrote:



[General]
:!: Avoid using uncommon or rough apparent divisions if possible (like the aggregated HS0.514 and HS0.643 in Kantan basing off the "natural HS1" SV of 1.40). Stick to nicer fractions to enhance player judgement and avoid confusion, especially in the multiple mixed 8th/6th parts. wat
:!: Too small of a sofuran HS change for emphasis and hence ending up confusing. wat
:idea: Consider: Uniform HS0.5 to compensate for 230 BPM at lower levels and, if you really want to, pique up to HS0.75 or HS1 at emphasis points. Refer to authentic Otemoyan (3/5/6/7) on similar BPM/HS leverage, and authentic Hurtling Boys for more comprehensible sofuran hell schemes. no, 0.5 is too slow for the song
:!: Preview: 01:29:295 no
:idea: 03:14:687~03:15:730 - Suggests not to be Go-go Time hm, gotta think about that one

[Difficulties]
:idea: Perceived rating (not counting length): 1★ Kantan / 6★ Futsuu / 7★ Muzukashii / 8★ Oni / 10★ Ura Oni (ref. that Karamari no Hana is still 10★)
:!: <Kantan> is the odd outlier. Pump it up. :arrow: Achievement failed: No crappy Kantan Did the best I can without destroying it
:!: Bad use of denden/drumroll: Do not break continuous (music) notes into separate (play) notes. <All diff> 00:36:796 (24,1) <Muzukashii/Oni/Ura Oni> 03:42:339 (105,1) wat
:!: Large notes mixed in apparent 16ths. Check with a BAT if you really^100 want to keep it. <Oni/Ura Oni> 00:32:296 (56) hm, technically they play like 160 BPM 1/2s and they are possible. Gonna ask one sometime soon.
:idea: <Kantan> On katsu-centric intros: 00:02:296~00:14:296 would have been a good place for katsu-centric intro if you want it mapped, but 00:14:296~00:26:296 is not. Refer to the likes of authentic D's Adventure Note for ideas. Maybe I'll change this a little bit
thanks... I guess^^
Evening
gg my reply just got wiped Q_Q

going to try to remember what I modded o-o|||

posting this first so that I don't lose the mod again X_X

d = Don
k = Kat
D = Big Don
K = Big Kat
">" = Change to

Kiai Time:

03:15:730 I think it is better if you re activate this kiai time here since the section before this is just a bridge to the chorus

[Inner Oni]

00:37:171 (1) - I suggest to extend the start of the spinner towards the earlier note, since the violin is one constant long note, so it will be weird if there is spacing between the note and the spinner
00:47:295 (5) - D > d | Since when comparing with note 3, note 5 is significantly softer, I suggest you to not emphasize note 5 and leave it as a small don
00:51:469 (25,26) - Swap | The kats on 24 and 25 seems a bit too rushed, I suggest to separate them and this will also emphasize the vocals
01:43:122 (121) - k > d | The kat density around here seems a bit too much I suggest to change to don to keep it less dense

[Oni]

00:37:171 (1) - Same as Inner Oni - Extend head/start of spinner
00:47:296 (5) - Same as Inner Oni - Change to small don
01:00:078 (66,67) - D,k > K,d | I think it is better to emphasize the cymbal with big kat since the default skin hitsound for big kat is cymbal and use don for 67 since the sound at 67 isn't that loud to be used for kat
03:07:382 (68) - Missing emphasis here? k > K

[Muzu]

00:27:046 (25,26) - k,k > d,d | 25 and 26 is lower pitched than 27 I suggest to change both to dons
00:37:171 (1) - Same as Inner Oni - Extend spinner
00:47:296 (5) - Same as Inner Oni - Change to small don
01:00:078 (10,11) - Same as Oni - D,k > K,d
Minor Suggestion : 01:12:209 The pattern here seems to lack a note here, add a don or kat
02:00:209 ^

No obvious problems for the rest of the song

[Futsuu]

00:37:171 (1) - Same as Inner Oni - Extend spinner
00:47:295 (5) - Same as Inner Oni - Change to small don
02:15:209 (102,103) - Replace 102 and 103 with a spinner that start on 102 that lasts 4 white bars

[Kantan]

00:47:295 (5) - Same as Inner Oni - Change to small don
01:51:730 (2,3) - k,D > d,K | It is better fitting for big kat to emphasize with cymbal and use don for note 2 since it is quite low pitched in this case
02:44:948 (39) - Move Left 1/2 | I think it'll be better if you make this so that the pattern fits the music and it looks more unique

Really like this map, I would rather listen to this taiko version than the original o/
Topic Starter
Nwolf

lZenxl wrote:

gg my reply just got wiped Q_Q aw :/

going to try to remember what I modded o-o|||

posting this first so that I don't lose the mod again X_X

d = Don
k = Kat
D = Big Don
K = Big Kat
">" = Change to

Kiai Time:

03:15:730 I think it is better if you re activate this kiai time here since the section before this is just a bridge to the chorus okay next mod mentioning this will make me change it ;_;

[Inner Oni]

00:37:171 (1) - I suggest to extend the start of the spinner towards the earlier note, since the violin is one constant long note, so it will be weird if there is spacing between the note and the spinner hm yup
00:47:295 (5) - D > d | Since when comparing with note 3, note 5 is significantly softer, I suggest you to not emphasize note 5 and leave it as a small don lol true, changed
00:51:469 (25,26) - Swap | The kats on 24 and 25 seems a bit too rushed, I suggest to separate them and this will also emphasize the vocals nah, don't like it
01:43:122 (121) - k > d | The kat density around here seems a bit too much I suggest to change to don to keep it less dense maybe

[Oni]

01:00:078 (66,67) - D,k > K,d | I think it is better to emphasize the cymbal with big kat since the default skin hitsound for big kat is cymbal and use don for 67 since the sound at 67 isn't that loud to be used for kat somehow like it better now
03:07:382 (68) - Missing emphasis here? k > K normally I would, but I don't want one at the beginning of a 230bpm 1/2 "stream"

[Muzu]

00:27:046 (25,26) - k,k > d,d | 25 and 26 is lower pitched than 27 I suggest to change both to dons hm yes
Minor Suggestion : 01:12:209 The pattern here seems to lack a note here, add a don or kat hm yes
02:00:209 ^ ^

No obvious problems for the rest of the song woo

[Futsuu]

02:15:209 (102,103) - Replace 102 and 103 with a spinner that start on 102 that lasts 4 white bars replaced the drumroll with a kat.

[Kantan]

01:51:730 (2,3) - k,D > d,K | It is better fitting for big kat to emphasize with cymbal and use don for note 2 since it is quite low pitched in this case dunno... no
02:44:948 (39) - Move Left 1/2 | I think it'll be better if you make this so that the pattern fits the music and it looks more unique nah I'm not sure if it might be too hard for new people if it's not always alternating between 4/2 and 3/2

Really like this map, I would rather listen to this taiko version than the original o/ \o
thanks^^
verto
Well hello, here is the mod I promised. I hope you don't mind that much that I skipped on the kantan and futsuu diffs.

General

SPOILER
While playing it I had a pretty bad accuracy on it. It might be because I suck, but I think there is no flow at
certain parts. After the muzukashii I don't really explain my suggestions, since it's mostly the same instrumental sounds and such. Except when
parts where I suggest to change a don to kat or vice versa. Those are mostly just my preferences.



Muzukashii

SPOILER
00:15:233 (3) - d (there is a drum sound in the music)
00:15:796 (4) - k->d (the two same pitched sound will be kat that way)
00:17:296 (8) - d (you can clearly hear the drum)
00:18:233 (11) - same as (3)
00:19:171 (13) - 00:19:358 (14) - dd (while I feel it might be too much for muzu, since the beggining is 1/4, it'd
accompany the music well)
00:21:421 (19) - move to 00:21:233 (19) - (there is no sound at the red line)
00:22:546 (21,22,23) - dkd (I think the 3 1/2 kats are too bland for that part.)
00:31:546 (40,1) - kd
00:35:296 (12) - d (I really miss that don from the downbeat)
01:03:861 (16) - d (would like 01:04:122 (18) - here another don as well because of the drumroll, but I think it
might be too much for a muzu)
01:04:252 (18) - d (maybe? I think it sounds better this way)
01:15:991 (61,62,63,64) - http://puu.sh/6tjDR.jpg (I don't think you need to map on vocal for this part)
01:17:687 (70,71) - add dk (there is a piano sound on the downbeat, feels wrong having nothing there)
01:21:469 (85,86,87,88,89,90,91,92,93,94,95,96,97,98,99,100,101) - I really don't like this part because you
prefered mapping on vocal instead of the instruments. What do you think of this? http://puu.sh/6tk8E.jpg
01:37:513 (39) - d (there is a triplet sound there, the big note next to it shouldn't be a problem because it's 1/2)
01:45:209 (75) - d (duplet sound)
01:53:295 (6) - d (I hear a snare there)
01:55:382 (16) - ^ (except it's a light drum sound)
01:55:643 (17,18,19,20) - you maped the vocal yet you omited the drum right next to it. How about this? http://puu.sh/6tkEW.jpg
01:57:469 (25) - downbeat with instrument sound
01:58:774 (31,32,33,34) - d k d - d maybe?
02:01:643 (44) - d (snare)
02:03:730 (53) - ^
02:05:817 (62) - ^
02:03:991 (54,55,56,57) - same as 01:55:643
02:08:296 (73,74,75,76,77,78) - k k d d d K (I feel like the guitar needs some emphasys here)
02:09:469 (79,80,81,82,83,84,85,86,87,88,89,90,91,92,93,94,95) - Same thing as 01:21:469
02:18:339 (6,7,8,9,10) - http://puu.sh/6tmzo.jpg might be hard for muzukashii because the high BPM
02:24:339 (35,36,37,38,39,40,41,42,43) - http://puu.sh/6tmFK.jpg ^
02:33:404 (80) - don maybe because the drumroll?
02:34:122 (2) - kat
02:34:643 (4) - don
02:35:295 (7) - ^
02:35:687 (9) - ^
02:36:339 (12) - ^
02:36:600 (14) - ^
02:38:426 (22) - ^
02:45:861 (51) - how about this? Follows the pitch of the piano http://puu.sh/6tn0N.jpg
02:48:209 (63) - kat
02:48:861 (66) - d
02:49:252 (68) - ^
02:49:643 (70) - ^
03:07:382 (122,123,124,125,126,127,128,129,130,131,132,133,134,135,136,137,138,139,140,141,142,143,144) - If you put
a don to all of the downbeats where there is nothing here I think it'd greatly improve the flow.
03:26:426 (50) - k->d maybe?
03:31:904 (76) - d
03:33:730 (83) - 03:33:861 (84) - 03:33:991 (85) - 03:34:122 (86) - might be too hard, but k k k d would accompany
the music well.
03:35:817 (91) - ^
03:37:904 (99) - ^
03:38:817 (105) - D because the duplet sounds
03:39:209 (107) - ^
03:39:991 (111) - ^

Oni
SPOILER
00:17:296 (13) - Same as on muzu
00:35:296 (72) - Feels like you skipped this don because of difficulty reasons
00:50:948 (16) - d (While I think it sounds nice even if it maped on vocal, I think with putting a don here you also
take care of the instruments too)
00:51:469 (20) - ^
01:15:991 (69) - d (feels like there are too many kat there)
01:18:339 (83) - ^
01:23:295 (109) - kat
01:23:556 (111) - don
01:26:295 (125) - ^
01:26:361 (125) - kat
01:27:730 (133) - k->d
01:27:991 (134) - d->k
01:30:600 (11) - d
01:31:122 (15) - ^
01:32:687 (27) - ^
01:34:774 (40) - ^
01:45:339 (104) - ^
01:51:730 (132) - d->k (it even says kat!)
01:52:252 (1) - K->D
01:55:643 (18) - k->d
02:06:078 (76) - k d d k d maybe?
02:08:035 (86) - Same as in muzu
02:11:426 (103) - to 02:11:295 (103) -
02:11:556 (104) - d
02:13:382 (113) - k
02:13:513 (114) - k
02:16:122 (125) - d
02:16:774 (130) - k maybe?
02:18:600 (11) - d
02:20:687 (26) - d
02:21:991 (35) - d
02:22:774 (40) - d
02:33:469 (105) - http://puu.sh/6tpS4.jpg perhaps?
02:43:578 (161) - to 02:43:448 (160) then 02:43:382 (159) - d->k
03:13:469 (105) - d->D
As for the last kiai time, I think you maped too much on vocal again, which disrupts the flow. Try to consider the general
rythm as well.
03:33:209 (221,222,223,224,225,226,227,228,229,230,231,232,233) - I suggest to use the same stuff as I mentioned for the muzukashii on this part.
03:38:687 (235,236,237,238,239,240,241,242,243) - ^


Inner oni
SPOILER
00:15:233 (6) - k
00:18:233 (22) - ^
00:27:421 (61) - Remove, this is redundant I think
00:28:921 (66) - ^
00:32:389 (80) - d (the next two triplets are on the same sound, why not here as well? Edit: now I see, still it sounds weird)
00:35:296 (101) - d
00:35:952 (105) - d
00:55:035 (53) - k->d
00:57:078 (67) - d
01:08:165 (33) - Why would you put a stream here? There is nothing here. Remove 01:08:230 (34,35,36) -
01:11:556 (62) - d->k
01:16:513 (104) - same as 01:08:165 (33) , feels like you are just trying to provide something the music didn't. 01:16:578 (105,106,107) - Remove these
01:17:817 (115) - d->k
01:21:469 (141) - k->d then 01:21:730 (142) - d->k
01:25:904 (164) - d->k
01:26:948 (172) - ^
01:27:469 (174) - k
01:27:730 (175,176) - same as 01:21:469 (141,142)
01:28:513 (179) - k
01:38:774 (85) - d->k maybe?
01:50:948 (14) - d
01:51:730 (19) - d->k
01:55:578 (47) - d
01:56:230 (52,53,54) - Remove
01:56:948 (60) - d->k
01:57:078 (60) - k->d
02:04:709 (123) - Remove
02:07:513 (146) - d
02:09:469 (159) - k->d then 02:09:730 (160) - d->k
02:11:295 (168,169) - d k -> k d
02:13:904 (182) - d->k
02:14:948 (190) - d->k
02:33:339 (139) - 02:33:600 (143) - Put some don between them
02:34:252 (3) - Remove?
02:35:948 (14) - d->k
02:36:078 (15) - k->d
02:40:774 (49) - d
02:41:165 (52) - d
02:41:556 (55) - d
02:52:904 (13) - Remove
03:23:687 (218,219,220,221,222) - kdkdd->dkkkd
03:33:209 (221,222,223,224,225,226,227,228,229,230,231,232,233) - I suggest to use the same stuff as I mentioned for the muzukashii on this part.
03:38:687 (235,236,237,238,239,240,241,242,243) - ^, except for the 1/4 part at 03:38:425 (21) - , that's fine.

I hope at least some of these things are useful, good luck with ranking it!
Topic Starter
Nwolf

_verto_ wrote:

Well hello, here is the mod I promised. I hope you don't mind that much that I skipped on the kantan and futsuu diffs.

General

SPOILER
While playing it I had a pretty bad accuracy on it. It might be because I suck, but I think there is no flow at
certain parts. After the muzukashii I don't really explain my suggestions, since it's mostly the same instrumental sounds and such. Except when
parts where I suggest to change a don to kat or vice versa. Those are mostly just my preferences. I thinks it's mostly the (relativly) high BPM and OD : P



Muzukashii

SPOILER
00:15:233 (3) - d (there is a drum sound in the music) there are many sounds I haven't mapped, on purpose.
00:15:796 (4) - k->d (the two same pitched sound will be kat that way) no, it's following (2) and (2) won't get changed.
00:17:296 (8) - d (you can clearly hear the drum) I don't follow drums in this part.
00:18:233 (11) - same as (3) same as the non existent (3) : P
00:19:171 (13) - 00:19:358 (14) - dd (while I feel it might be too much for muzu, since the beggining is 1/4, it'd
accompany the music well) nah, I would've less space to make the Oni harder if there's something here : D
00:21:421 (19) - move to 00:21:233 (19) - (there is no sound at the red line) I don't have to follow sounds all the time; and there is a sound here.
00:22:546 (21,22,23) - dkd (I think the 3 1/2 kats are too bland for that part.) Might think about that one some other time
00:31:546 (40,1) - kd no
00:35:296 (12) - d (I really miss that don from the downbeat) no drums
01:03:861 (16) - d (would like 01:04:122 (18) - here another don as well because of the drumroll, but I think it
might be too much for a muzu) it would be too much for a muzu
01:04:252 (18) - d (maybe? I think it sounds better this way) no it doesn't
01:15:991 (61,62,63,64) - http://puu.sh/6tjDR.jpg (I don't think you need to map on vocal for this part) why should I map something else if I mapped the vocals for 7 beats
01:17:687 (70,71) - add dk (there is a piano sound on the downbeat, feels wrong having nothing there) ^
01:21:469 (85,86,87,88,89,90,91,92,93,94,95,96,97,98,99,100,101) - I really don't like this part because you
prefered mapping on vocal instead of the instruments. What do you think of this? http://puu.sh/6tk8E.jpg no, thank you. I am following the vocals here, I follow the vocals basically everywhere
01:37:513 (39) - d (there is a triplet sound there, the big note next to it shouldn't be a problem because it's 1/2) dislike that, I don't want to follow every triplet in a Muzu.
01:45:209 (75) - d (duplet sound) ^
01:53:295 (6) - d (I hear a snare there) Won't change that because I'm concentrating on the vocals, it breaks the flow for me.
01:55:382 (16) - ^ (except it's a light drum sound) ^
01:55:643 (17,18,19,20) - you maped the vocal yet you omited the drum right next to it. How about this? http://puu.sh/6tkEW.jpg no
01:57:469 (25) - downbeat with instrument sound no
01:58:774 (31,32,33,34) - d k d - d maybe? this was meant to be a small break because I didn't want to have fast 1/1 notes everywhere, even if it is a muzu.

[From here I deleted everything I didn't change, unless I needed a new reason for that specific part but most of it is repetition.]

02:08:296 (73,74,75,76,77,78) - k k d d d K (I feel like the guitar needs some emphasys here) in harder diffs, yes
02:18:339 (6,7,8,9,10) - http://puu.sh/6tmzo.jpg might be hard for muzukashii because the high BPM that's true so I don't change anything. I don't get why I should change anything here anyway???
02:24:339 (35,36,37,38,39,40,41,42,43) - http://puu.sh/6tmFK.jpg ^ No. I don't want to say that this muzu is perfect or something, but please compare the style of mapping with mine so it isn't totally out of place. Especially with that 1/4 triplet, I don't get why I should do something like that when I hardly used it in the Oni.
02:45:861 (51) - how about this? Follows the pitch of the piano http://puu.sh/6tn0N.jpg what
03:07:382 (122,123,124,125,126,127,128,129,130,131,132,133,134,135,136,137,138,139,140,141,142,143,144) - If you put
a don to all of the downbeats where there is nothing here I think it'd greatly improve the flow. I think we have different interpretations of flow, because it has flow for me. And I dislike/hate ongoing dkdkdkdkdkd patterns
03:33:730 (83) - 03:33:861 (84) - 03:33:991 (85) - 03:34:122 (86) - might be too hard, but k k k d would accompany the music well. it wouldn't be too hard, but I don't want that

sorry that I changed nothing in the muzu, but your suggestions were not suitable with how I wanted the diff and I'm missing good explanations in many parts.

Oni

SPOILER
[Deleted everything that is similar to things you mentioned in Muzu and everything that doesn't need further explanation for why I didn't change it.]

00:35:296 (72) - Feels like you skipped this don because of difficulty reasons I deleted it after a previous mod to emphasize the strings
01:15:991 (69) - d (feels like there are too many kat there) what, no. The kat is here for the vocals - like many other notes.
01:51:730 (132) - d->k (it even says kat!) why is it like this, changed^
03:13:469 (105) - d->D .-.
As for the last kiai time, I think you maped too much on vocal again, which disrupts the flow. Try to consider the general rythm as well. how is following something, that has flow to it, disrupting the flow o_o


Inner oni
SPOILER
[Deleted everything that is similar to things you mentioned in Muzu/Oni and everything that doesn't need further explanation for why I didn't change it.]

00:32:389 (80) - d (the next two triplets are on the same sound, why not here as well? Edit: now I see, still it sounds weird) Big notes are not allowed at the beginning of a 1/4 stream, or in this case and BPM, a 1/8 stream.
01:08:165 (33) - Why would you put a stream here? There is nothing here. Remove 01:08:230 (34,35,36) - Adding new stuff to the music
01:51:730 (19) - d->k Done

I hope at least some of these things are useful, good luck with ranking it! thanks, even though I hardly changed anything : /

Just a suggestion for future mods: Do not try to completely change the way a map was mapped. Trying to force me to follow something I didn't want to follow is not a good idea (here: forcing me to follow the drums in areas where I obviously followed the vocals). Taiko is not about following drums only.

Another thing: If you suggest adding notes to the map of somebody, do not use the combo number, as the mapper doesn't have that note mapped and therefore has no number for orientation.
Kagami Yuki
Hi~mod from PM request.

Just a quick check,and some suggestions.

[General]
  1. 00:14:296 - How about change your first BPM to 160?You use 1/8 stuff there,and a little bit slow .....Just a suggestion.
  2. cool song and cool map.But I recommend you add some notes to increase Oni's difficulty,diff spread should be considered between muzu/oni and oni/inner.
  3. I like this song.

[Inner Oni]
  1. 00:35:858 (102) - k? and change 00:36:608 (106) - d,then this pattern would be better?
  2. 00:47:295 (5) - you used finisher at previous pattern,so why not set finisher here?
  3. 00:49:382 (9,10,11,12,13) - kdkdk or ddddk could be fine.
  4. 01:26:817 (171,172) - k?
  5. 01:28:969 (183) - d could be better.
  6. 01:37:252 (73,74,75) - kkd ?
  7. 01:51:078 (14,15,16,17) - k d k d?take a try.
  8. 01:57:861 (66) - d?
  9. 01:58:513 (72) - k?
  10. 02:02:035 (100) - d?
  11. 02:15:730 (194,195,196) - d k d could be better.
  12. 02:36:209 (16) - d?
  13. 03:22:187 (204) - ^
  14. cool diff!
[Oni]
  1. 00:28:358 (48) - d?
  2. 00:35:858 (102) - k? and change 00:36:608 (106) - d,then this pattern would be better?
  3. 00:47:295 (5) - same as inner
  4. 00:58:122 (57) - remove this one?no sound here.
  5. 01:26:948 (127) - k?
  6. 01:34:861 (37) - d?
  7. 01:51:078 (123,124,125,126) - same as inner
  8. 02:14:948 (120) - k?
  9. 02:22:861 (37) - d?
  10. 03:08:948 (78) - ^
  11. 03:21:470 (156) - ^
[Muzukashii]
  1. 00:35:858 (102) - k? and change 00:36:608 (106) - d,then this pattern would be better?
  2. 00:47:296 (5) - the same as inner
  3. this diff is better than your oni.Also a good map.
Good luck~
Topic Starter
Nwolf

- Kagami Yuki - wrote:

Hi~mod from PM request. hi

Just a quick check,and some suggestions.

[General]
  1. 00:14:296 - How about change your first BPM to 160?You use 1/8 stuff there,and a little bit slow .....Just a suggestion. nah, wanna have the "true" BPM here just because I don't feel good when I don't
  2. cool song and cool map.But I recommend you add some notes to increase Oni's difficulty,diff spread should be considered between muzu/oni and oni/inner. I'll see what I can do
  3. I like this song. yes :3

[Inner Oni]
  1. 00:35:858 (102) - k? and change 00:36:608 (106) - d,then this pattern would be better? it... is!
  2. 00:47:295 (5) - you used finisher at previous pattern,so why not set finisher here? I think it was from a previous mod, but I was about to change it back anyway
  3. 00:49:382 (9,10,11,12,13) - kdkdk or ddddk could be fine. Maybe
  4. 01:26:817 (171,172) - k? nah, vocals go down, but maybe
  5. 01:28:969 (183) - d could be better. yap
  6. 01:37:252 (73,74,75) - kkd ? Might think about this one in the future, if anything I would probably change it do kkk though
  7. 01:51:078 (14,15,16,17) - k d k d?take a try. nah, don't like it
  8. 01:57:861 (66) - d? no, feel like the notes are on the same heigth
  9. 01:58:513 (72) - k? oh yes
  10. 02:02:035 (100) - d? same as above
  11. 02:15:730 (194,195,196) - d k d could be better. yeah
  12. 02:36:209 (16) - d? yo
  13. 03:22:187 (204) - ^ yep again
  14. cool diff! thanks :3
[Oni]
  1. 00:28:358 (48) - d? nah, wanna
  2. 00:35:858 (102) - k? and change 00:36:608 (106) - d,then this pattern would be better? same as inner
  3. 00:47:295 (5) - same as inner same as inner
  4. 00:58:122 (57) - remove this one?no sound here. yap there's nothing in Inner too.
  5. 01:26:948 (127) - k? nah, vocals go down.
  6. 01:34:861 (37) - d? changed (38) instead
  7. 01:51:078 (123,124,125,126) - same as inner same as inner
  8. 02:14:948 (120) - k? nah, vocals go down.
  9. 02:22:861 (37) - d? changed (38) instead
  10. 03:08:948 (78) - ^ ^
  11. 03:21:470 (156) - ^
^

[Muzukashii]
  1. 00:35:858 (102) - k? and change 00:36:608 (106) - d,then this pattern would be better? same as inner
  2. 00:47:296 (5) - the same as inner same as inner
  3. this diff is better than your oni.Also a good map. yay thanks
Good luck~ thanks^^

thanks a lot!
taiko_maniac1811
Hihi :3
M4M incoming :3

Mod
  • [General]

    - Why so many timing points .w." just use one or two is enough imo .w." it's kinda hard to judge the notes coming with various scrolling speed... and with the song using 1/3 and 1/4 snap and all .w.

    [Kantan]

    -the last kiai part is kinda full of 1/2 notes unlike the first two kiai .w." maybe cut down some notes there?
  1. 00:36:796 (24) - start spinner here instead? extend the spinner end if done so
  2. 03:42:469 (1) - put a big Don here instead of spinner o3o? just like i mention for inner oni

    [Futsuu]
  3. 00:36:796 (39) - start spinnner here instead? extend the spinner end if done so
  4. 03:42:469 (1) - put a big Don here instead of spinner o3o? just like i mention for inner oni

    [Muzukashii]
  5. 00:19:171 and 00:19:358 - why no kat ;w;? add kat to follow the music instrument here
  6. 00:36:796 (53) - start spinner here instead? extend the spinner end if done so
  7. 01:26:556 (95) - move this to 01:26:687 current place is pretty weird .w."
  8. 01:58:774 - add don? for the drums
    01:59:035 (28) - if above is added, change this to kat o3o
  9. 02:14:556 (81) - move this to 02:14:687 same as 01:26:556
  10. 03:42:469 (1) -delete spinner o3o? just like i mention for inner oni ww

    [Oni]
  11. 00:17:921 (15) - kat? the song is getting higher here
  12. 00:18:671 (19) - kat? ^
  13. 00:28:546 - add don? for the drums
  14. 00:36:796 (78) - start the spinner here instead? if done so extend the spinner end
  15. 00:51:991 - add don? kinda empty here without a note .w.
  16. 01:04:252 (1,2) add finish for (1) and delete (2) to have a little pause here to follow the vocals and music better
  17. 01:21:209 (99) - delete? have a pause here is nice since there is no beat here
  18. 01:26:817 (126) - delete? kinda not play well here imo .w."
  19. 02:14:817 (119) - delete? ^
  20. 02:41:948 (153) - move this to 02:41:817 and change it to kat, plays better
    02:41:556 (151,152) - if above is done, change these to (d k) to have a better flow
    02:42:209 (155) - and change this to don, coz the drums is low here
  21. 03:42:469 (1) -delete spinner o3o? just like inner oni i mentioned ww

    [Inner Oni]
  22. 00:17:921 (18) - kat? the song is getting higher here
  23. 00:18:671 (23) - kat? ^
  24. 00:36:796 (107) - start the spinner here instead? if done so extend the spinner end
  25. 00:49:513 (11,12) - dd? kk here is a bit too loud imo
  26. 00:52:948 (35,36) - move these two to 00:52:861 and 00:52:948 respectively 1/3 snap, plays better here with the vocals
    00:53:622 (42) - if above is done, move this to 00:53:491 1/4 snap instead, plays plays better imo
  27. 01:04:774 (5) - kat? have good (k d k d k) flow here with the vocals
  28. 01:08:948 (41) - kat? ^
  29. 01:15:209 (93) - swap this with 01:14:948 (91) - plays better
  30. 01:17:035 (110) - kat?
  31. 01:21:209 (140) - delete? have a pause here is nice since there is no beat here
  32. 01:26:687 (170,171) - change (170) to kat and delete (171) to follow the vocals better
  33. 01:32:600 (30,31) - move these two to 01:32:513 and 01:32:600 respectively 1/3 snap, plays better with the vocals, u can change (30) to kat if u want to keep the (dkk) pattern
  34. 02:09:209 (157) - delete? have a pause here is nice since no beat is present
  35. 02:14:687 (187,188) - change (187) to kat and delete (188) to follow the vocals better
  36. 02:20:600 (31,32) - same as 01:32:600 (30,31) move them forward one tick each 1/3 snap
  37. 03:42:469 (1) -delete spinner o3o? kinda nice though without a spinner ww

that's all from me
good luck :3
Topic Starter
Nwolf

taiko_maniac1811 wrote:

Hihi :3 hi :3
M4M incoming :3

Mod
  • [General]

    - Why so many timing points .w." just use one or two is enough imo .w." it's kinda hard to judge the notes coming with various scrolling speed... and with the song using 1/3 and 1/4 snap and all .w. I'll look if more people say something about this, going with a temporary solution right now that doesn't involve getting rid of any SV change (and only affects Inner) because the map "feels" better with them imo

    [Kantan]

    -the last kiai part is kinda full of 1/2 notes unlike the first two kiai .w." maybe cut down some notes there? might think about this one, but the last kiai is supposed to be some kind of ultimate challenge (even if it isn't). It was mapped to be similar to previous kiais but a little bit harder.
  1. 00:36:796 (24) - start spinner here instead? extend the spinner end if done so yeah sounds good
  2. 03:42:469 (1) - put a big Don here instead of spinner o3o? just like i mention for inner oni but the spinner is long and annoying and gives everybody an additional and unnecessary point boost D:

    [Muzukashii]
  3. 00:19:171 and 00:19:358 - why no kat ;w;? add kat to follow the music instrument here only added a kat on 00:19:171
  4. 01:26:556 (95) - move this to 01:26:687 current place is pretty weird .w." nah. It has the same rythm as previous patterns and it fits the vocals
  5. 01:58:774 - add don? for the drums omg love this
    01:59:035 (28) - if above is added, change this to kat o3o yap
  6. 03:42:469 (1) -delete spinner o3o? just like i mention for inner oni ww

    [Oni]
  7. 00:17:921 (15) - kat? the song is getting higher here nah, don't like it that much. The notes still in crease the same way as they did previously, just higher.
  8. 00:28:546 - add don? for the drums yop
  9. 00:51:991 - add don? kinda empty here without a note .w. moved 23 here instead, don't want this to be too long (yes the rest is longer)
  10. 01:04:252 (1,2) add finish for (1) and delete (2) to have a little pause here to follow the vocals and music better yeah
  11. 01:21:209 (99) - delete? have a pause here is nice since there is no beat here don
  12. 01:26:817 (126) - delete? kinda not play well here imo .w." k
  13. 02:14:817 (119) - delete? ^ k
  14. 02:41:948 (153) - move this to 02:41:817 and change it to kat, plays better maybe
    02:41:556 (151,152) - if above is done, change these to (d k) to have a better flow
    02:42:209 (155) - and change this to don, coz the drums is low here nah
  15. 03:42:469 (1) -delete spinner o3o? just like inner oni i mentioned ww

    [Inner Oni]
  16. 00:17:921 (18) - kat? the song is getting higher here same as Oni
  17. 00:49:513 (11,12) - dd? kk here is a bit too loud imo changed to kd
  18. 00:52:948 (35,36) - move these two to 00:52:861 and 00:52:948 respectively 1/3 snap, plays better here with the vocals yap
    00:53:622 (42) - if above is done, move this to 00:53:491 1/4 snap instead, plays plays better imo hm yes
  19. 01:04:774 (5) - kat? have good (k d k d k) flow here with the vocals k
  20. 01:15:209 (93) - swap this with 01:14:948 (91) - plays better yop
  21. 01:17:035 (110) - kat? yop
  22. 01:21:209 (140) - delete? have a pause here is nice since there is no beat here k
  23. 01:26:687 (170,171) - change (170) to kat and delete (171) to follow the vocals better nah
  24. 01:32:600 (30,31) - move these two to 01:32:513 and 01:32:600 respectively 1/3 snap, plays better with the vocals, u can change (30) to kat if u want to keep the (dkk) pattern already changed this as part of the SV change semi-solution

that's all from me
good luck :3 thx :3
thanks a lot for the mod!
ts8zs
[Inner]
00:36:796 (1) - longer? 1/1?
01:18:078 (117,118,119,120) - kdkk
01:36:861 (70,71) - kd
01:48:339 - d
03:41:295 (37) - k
[Oni]
00:21:046 (27,28,29) - kkd?
00:25:358 (41) - k?
00:37:171 (1) - longer? 1/2?
00:59:556 (64) - k?
01:34:513 (35,36,37,38,39,40) - kdkkdk
03:01:122 (47,48,49,50,51,52,53,54) - dkkkkddd
03:41:752 (253) - del(only one 1/4)
>03:41:687 (252) - k
[Muzu]
00:35:296 - d
[Fut]
00:19:171 - k
01:45:991 (38) - you can make it like this:3 https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/1345169
[Kat]
00:53:295 (12) - d
02:46:513 (42) - k
Topic Starter
Nwolf

ts8zs wrote:

[Inner]
00:36:796 (1) - longer? 1/1? what, why .-.
01:18:078 (117,118,119,120) - kdkk changed to kkkdk instead
01:36:861 (70,71) - kd nah
01:48:339 - d nah
03:41:295 (37) - k yup
[Oni]
00:21:046 (27,28,29) - kkd? nah
00:25:358 (41) - k? yup
00:59:556 (64) - k? no
01:34:513 (35,36,37,38,39,40) - kdkkdk nah
03:01:122 (47,48,49,50,51,52,53,54) - dkkkkddd wat
03:41:752 (253) - del(only one 1/4) might think about this one
>03:41:687 (252) - k
[Muzu]
00:35:296 - d no, gonna keep this empty
[Fut]
00:19:171 - k no
01:45:991 (38) - you can make it like this:3 https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/1345169 where's the difference
[Kat]
00:53:295 (12) - d nah
02:46:513 (42) - k nah
thanks for mod^^
ts8zs

Nwolf wrote:

ts8zs wrote:

[Inner]
00:36:796 (1) - longer? 1/1? what, why .-. because this will end ealier:3
thanks for mod^^
Topic Starter
Nwolf
don't really get the reason so still not changing it
TKS
[ Inner Oni]
  1. 00:15:233 - add k here. snaredrum sound is really strong. empty is a bit weird imo.
    00:18:233 - same as above.
  2. 00:35:483 (102) - => 00:35:296 - move here. i know that youre following the mainmelody. but i feel plays weird a bit.
  3. 01:12:209 (67) - change to d? the pitch is a bit lower than the vicinity notes.
  4. 01:12:469 - kkd here. good fit the snaredrum.
  5. 01:26:361 (165,166,167,168) - unnecessary pattern. if you want to follow a drumsound. 01:26:165 - how about dk dkkd (1/2) from here?
  6. 01:36:861 (70,71) - swap these colors. sounds good.
  7. 02:08:035 (149) - i cant understand what are you following sound. k is better.
  8. 02:14:361 (182,183,184,185) - unnecessary. same as 01:26:361
  9. 02:16:382 (196,197,198,199,200,201,202) - all del. the pattern is breaking the atmosphere of the song.
  10. 02:24:861 (72,73) - swap.
  11. 02:33:469 - 02:33:535 - add notes, i dont feel empty here.
  12. 02:43:556 (67) - change to k if you following the piano sound.
  13. 02:45:209 (78,79,80) - pointless that 1/3 pattern.
  14. 03:07:056 (77) - del. there is a sound here indeed. but shouldnt follow because the sound is really weak.
  15. 03:08:948 - ddk(1/2) here in the same way as 03:11:035 (107,108,109) -
  16. 03:12:209 - 03:12:469 - why you made ​​the empty?
  17. 03:15:339 (139,140,141,142,143,144,145) - i recommend a simple pattern like ddkkkkd. sounds weird.
  18. 03:23:296 (215,216) - swap.
  19. 03:32:382 - add a greenline here for sound vol. if you change vol suddenly it does not work correctly. Kantan~Oni also the same.
  20. 03:33:991 - 03:36:078 - 03:38:165 - add a notes.
  21. 03:38:513 (22,23) - del. unnecessary 1/3 pattern. and 03:38:686 (24,25) - you should change to finisher.
  22. 03:38:948 - => 03:38:600 - move the greenline here. Kantan~Oni also the same.
  23. 03:41:948 (39,40) - swap. sounds better.

[ Oni]
  1. 00:17:296 - add k here.
  2. 01:26:361 (121) - => 01:26:426 - move here. suddenly complex rhythm is plays weird.
  3. 01:45:339 - add d. empty is a bit bored ;_;
  4. 01:51:078 (124,125,126,127) - change to kdkd, you can emphasize 01:51:730 (128) - this notes. if previous notes has the reverse color.
  5. 02:14:361 (116) - => 02:14:426 - move here.
  6. 02:16:382 (124,125,126,127,128,129) - del. same reason as Inner Oni.
  7. 02:41:295 - why are you quit to follow the piano suddenly? e.g. http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/1429007
  8. 03:15:730 (122) - why is here finisher?
  9. 03:31:774 - add d.
  10. 03:41:948 (255,256) - swap

[ Muzukashii]
  1. 00:17:671 (7) - => 00:17:296 - move here and change to k. missing the sense of unity.
  2. 00:47:296 (5) - finisher.
  3. 00:49:122 (7) - the slider doesnt work. didnt you feel suspicious?
  4. 01:20:296 (78) - change to k. sounds better.
  5. 01:59:948 (32) - ^
  6. 03:41:948 (103,104) - swap.

[ Futsuu]
  1. 00:58:382 (26) - => 00:58:513 - move here. the pattern is a bit hard on Futsuu.
  2. 01:45:991 (38) - change to spinner or some notes. the slider is inappropriate to Futsuu player.
  3. 03:40:774 (57) - ^

[ Kantan]
  1. quite nice. but i feel inappropriate pattern for Kantan on 02:42:339 ~ 02:50:687 -
    you can change to the more simpler pattern.
overall, the sense of unity is missing on Oni/Inner Oni imo. to change the pattern in order to avoid boring for players is a really good thing, but its weird if you dont maintain a sense of unity. i mean, you should clarify follow to sound.
anyway please recheck the overall structure.

good luck!
Topic Starter
Nwolf

TKSalt wrote:

[ Inner Oni]
  1. 00:15:233 - add k here. snaredrum sound is really strong. empty is a bit weird imo.
    00:18:233 - same as above. Somehow though that I would dislike this a lot buuuut I guess not
  2. 00:35:483 (102) - => 00:35:296 - move here. i know that youre following the mainmelody. but i feel plays weird a bit. k
  3. 01:12:209 (67) - change to d? the pitch is a bit lower than the vicinity notes. think it's okay the way it is
  4. 01:12:469 - kkd here. good fit the snaredrum. changed to kdd instead
  5. 01:26:361 (165,166,167,168) - unnecessary pattern. if you want to follow a drumsound. 01:26:165 - how about d k dkkd (1/2) from here? Deleted unnecessary notes
  6. 01:36:861 (70,71) - swap these colors. sounds good. hm yup
  7. 02:08:035 (149) - i cant understand what are you following sound. k is better. yeah
  8. 02:16:382 (196,197,198,199,200,201,202) - all del. the pattern is breaking the atmosphere of the song. gon
  9. 02:33:469 - 02:33:535 - add notes, i dont feel empty here. don
  10. 02:43:556 (67) - change to k if you following the piano sound. hm yeah
  11. 02:45:209 (78,79,80) - pointless that 1/3 pattern. Why did I even do this
  12. 03:07:056 (77) - del. there is a sound here indeed. but shouldnt follow because the sound is really weak. Thinking about this, I like it D:
  13. 03:08:948 - ddk(1/2) here in the same way as 03:11:035 (107,108,109) - nah they are different actually (in the music)
  14. 03:12:209 - 03:12:469 - why you made ​​the empty? I have no idea
  15. 03:15:339 (139,140,141,142,143,144,145) - i recommend a simple pattern like ddkkkkd. sounds weird. eeyup
  16. 03:32:382 - add a greenline here for sound vol. if you change vol suddenly it does not work correctly. Kantan~Oni also the same. k
  17. 03:33:991 - 03:36:078 - 03:38:165 - add a notes. think it works better here without
  18. 03:38:513 (22,23) - del. unnecessary 1/3 pattern. and 03:38:686 (24,25) - you should change to finisher. changed to 1/4 pattern because I want something like that here to follow the bass a bit (and I think it's more interesting to play)
  19. 03:38:948 - => 03:38:600 - move the greenline here. Kantan~Oni also the same. moved to 03:38:687 instead
  20. 03:41:948 (39,40) - swap. sounds better. nah, prefer it more this way.

[ Oni]
  1. 00:17:296 - add k here. hm ok
  2. 01:26:361 (121) - => 01:26:426 - move here. suddenly complex rhythm is plays weird. done
  3. 01:45:339 - add d. empty is a bit bored ;_; eyup
  4. 01:51:078 (124,125,126,127) - change to kdkd, you can emphasize 01:51:730 (128) - this notes. if previous notes has the reverse color. changed to something different
  5. 02:41:295 - why are you quit to follow the piano suddenly? e.g. http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/1429007 I have no idea
  6. 03:15:730 (122) - why is here finisher? there is a finisher at the start of every kiai
  7. 03:41:948 (255,256) - swap nah, prefer it more this way.

[ Muzukashii]
  1. 00:17:671 (7) - => 00:17:296 - move here and change to k. missing the sense of unity. k
  2. 00:47:296 (5) - finisher. oops
  3. 00:49:122 (7) - the slider doesnt work. didnt you feel suspicious? erm erm erm erm maybe a little bit
  4. 01:20:296 (78) - change to k. sounds better. hm true
  5. 01:59:948 (32) - ^ ^
  6. 03:41:948 (103,104) - swap. nah, prefer it more this way.

[ Futsuu]
  1. 00:58:382 (26) - => 00:58:513 - move here. the pattern is a bit hard on Futsuu. hm okay
  2. 01:45:991 (38) - change to spinner or some notes. the slider is inappropriate to Futsuu player. changed to spinner
  3. 03:40:774 (57) - ^ ^

[ Kantan]
  1. quite nice. but i feel inappropriate pattern for Kantan on 02:42:339 ~ 02:50:687 - changed
    you can change to the more simpler pattern.
overall, the sense of unity is missing on Oni/Inner Oni imo. to change the pattern in order to avoid boring for players is a really good thing, but its weird if you dont maintain a sense of unity. i mean, you should clarify follow to sound.
anyway please recheck the overall structure. Tried to do something

good luck! thanks^^
thanks a lot :3
Dainesl
Okay so I discussed with Nwolf about technical metadata stuff, and I found that:

Touhou should not be in Source.
If he mentioned "Greenwich in the Sky" (original song's name) then why doesn't he mention Team Shanghai Alice (ZUN)?

This is just to give people an insider as to why the metadata's changed.
Love
teh irc mod

SPOILER
11:49 Love: psst, hi
11:52 Nwolf: woof
11:52 *Love is listening to [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/313792 Comp - Gensou no Satellite]
11:52 Love: shall we?
11:52 Nwolf: gimme a minute
11:53 Love: kk, let me know XD
11:54 Nwolf: k ready
11:55 Love: inner oni first
11:55 Nwolf: oh god
11:56 Love: XD
11:56 Love: I always start hardest to easiest, since the hardest need more attention than the easier ones lol
11:56 Nwolf: yeah
11:57 Love: intro is fine
11:57 Love: lets start with these 00:43:382 (2) -
11:58 Love: 00:45:209 (3,4) -
11:58 Love: of course you hear the crash, but it's held, so it doesn't go all the way through
11:58 Love: so my suggestion for this part, is just remove the mekka's
11:59 Nwolf: so big dons?
11:59 Love: 00:43:382 (2,3,4,5,6) -
11:59 Love: THOSE
11:59 Love: oops caps soz lol
11:59 Love: just make them normal notes
11:59 Nwolf: o
12:00 Nwolf: hmm
12:02 Nwolf: think that big notes fit because those notes are... strong?
12:02 Love: that's the thing
12:02 Love: it's held, so it's not as strong as the first one
12:02 Nwolf: hm k changed
12:02 Love: k :P
12:02 Love: 00:49:643 (13,14,15) -
12:03 Love: for 13, I was expecting a d since it's a downbeat
12:03 Nwolf: not that note again I changed it way too often D:
12:03 Love: lol
12:03 Love: lemme explain
12:04 Love: sure the pitch is high for the vocals, and the crash that's there
12:04 Nwolf: downbeat d upbeat k
12:04 Love: basically yeah
12:04 Love: kdkkk is pretty awkward to play as well
12:05 Nwolf: yeah
12:05 Love: and the reason for the d is for the kick in the drums instead of going with the pitch of whatever is there
12:06 Nwolf: hm changed to kddkd because I really dislike kdkkd
12:06 Love: and same for the other 2 notes selected, should be k d there to follow the drums which you used right after
12:06 Love: and that works too XD
12:06 Nwolf: I followed the drums in the kiai
12:06 Nwolf: ?
12:06 Love: 00:50:295 (4,5) -
12:07 Love: that was just getting to me
12:07 Nwolf: hm yes
12:08 Nwolf: changed 00:54:078 (46) - to k then
12:08 Love: doesn't have to
12:08 Love: that intro to the kiai just got me
12:08 Nwolf: ah k
12:08 Love: so instead
12:09 Love: you could just add a note here 00:50:165 -
12:09 Love: that way you can keep your d k
12:09 Nwolf: hm naaah
12:09 Love: kinda fits what you were going with XD
12:11 Nwolf: wanna keep the gap though
12:11 Nwolf: dunno why
12:11 Nwolf: want the start of the kiai to have less notes than later
12:11 Love: yolo it XD
12:11 Love: I'm gonna try to keep your 1337 note count, so dw
12:12 Nwolf: kk
12:13 Love: so with that added, 00:52:861 (36) - could be removed since it breaks quite a bit of flow
12:15 Nwolf: wow it really does
12:15 Nwolf: lol
12:16 Love: XD
12:17 Love: 00:57:600 (69) - try making this a d so it fits the guitar a little bit more
12:19 Nwolf: ja
12:20 Love: 01:12:209 (67) - same with this one, and it emphisizes the snares after too
12:21 Nwolf: ja
12:22 Nwolf: this bug is driving me crazy
12:22 Love: hmm?
12:22 Nwolf: I cannot test a map twice without changing the diff/leaving the editor
12:22 Nwolf: because if I do, osu crashes
12:22 Love: oh, ew :<
12:23 Love: since you were going with the drum roll here, make 01:28:709 (176) - a d
12:26 Nwolf: uhm ok
12:27 Love: and then 01:32:513 (30) - for the flow issue lol
12:27 Nwolf: yap
12:29 Love: these snapped how you wanted? 01:37:839 (77,78,80,81) -
12:30 Nwolf: yeah
12:30 Love: hmm
12:31 Love: try removing 01:38:774 (85) -
12:31 Love: since the flow issue again lol
12:32 Nwolf: hm don't think that one flows bad though :<
12:32 Love: it's just the 1/3
12:33 Love: since you've been using o ooo o for the 1/3
12:33 Nwolf: changed it because I used other notes here though
12:34 Nwolf: aaand I felt like making the 2nd half of the kiai slightly different
12:34 Love: hmm, mmk
12:35 Nwolf: kdddk flows better than k ddk imo
12:35 Love: true
12:35 Love: add a d on 01:47:687 -
12:36 Nwolf: omg there's a drum
12:36 Love: XD
12:36 Love: and the guitar stroke
12:38 Love: 02:20:513 (30) - flow again lol
12:39 Nwolf: eeyup
12:40 Love: and then add a note on 02:42:991 - to keep going with the red tick pauses you've done afterwards
12:41 Nwolf: don
12:41 Love: prefferably yes lol
12:41 Nwolf: don(e)
12:41 Love: XD
12:42 Love: 03:18:948 (175) - flow lol
12:42 Love: and 03:27:295 (251) -
12:42 Nwolf: blaaaah
12:43 Nwolf: wait that note is wrong
12:43 Nwolf: moved to 03:27:469 (251) -
12:43 Love: kk
12:43 Love: and change 03:27:861 (255,256,257,258,259) - to ddkdd
12:44 Love: for the trumpet
12:45 Love: and add a d at 03:40:122 -
12:45 Nwolf: hm yes
12:45 Love: and then your 1337 notes are still intact :D
12:46 Nwolf: oh yes yaaay
12:50 Love: k oni
12:50 Love: 00:32:296 (59,60,61,62,63,64,65,66,67,68,69,70,71,72,73) - is just really boring cause it's kdkdkdkdkdk etc lol
12:51 Nwolf: how to change
12:52 Love: hmm
12:52 Love: thinking
12:52 Nwolf: kdkkkdkdk
12:53 Nwolf: and the second is kdkkkddkd(blah)
12:53 Love: OR
12:53 Love: 00:32:296 - 00:35:296 - http://puu.sh/89YqU.jpg
12:55 Nwolf: hmmmm
12:57 Nwolf: the way I did it fits better with muzu if it stays unchanged
12:58 Love: just however you feel like XP
12:59 Nwolf: I'll just use kdkkkdk. Also fits better with drums even if I'm not following them (yay for my logic?)
13:00 Love: mk lol
13:01 Love: and then these again 00:43:382 (2,3,4,5,6) -
13:01 Nwolf: k
13:02 Love: 01:05:817 (10) - fits better as a d for the vocal pitch
13:03 Nwolf: hm yes
13:04 Love: d here 01:47:687 -
13:07 Nwolf: don(e)
13:07 Love: XD
13:07 Love: 02:08:295 (87) - changing this to a d emphisizes the guitar pitches a little bit more
13:08 Nwolf: plays better too
13:08 Love: a little yeah
13:09 Love: 02:15:991 - 02:16:252 - try k k k here
13:10 Nwolf: why did I map that so boring
13:10 Love: XD
13:12 Love: 03:33:730 - 03:35:817 - 03:37:904 - add a d on these
13:14 Nwolf: adding the kats too
13:14 Love: that works too XD
13:15 Nwolf: it felt weird with the dons but without the kats like in Inner
13:15 Love: true
13:16 Love: muzu now
13:17 Nwolf: finishers gone yes
13:17 Love: yeah, you know that drill XD
13:17 Love: 00:35:296 -
13:17 Love: missing a note
13:18 Nwolf: hm that's weird
13:20 Nwolf: muzu perfect after that rite
13:20 Love: still looking XD
13:20 Love: 01:10:904 - 01:11:295 - try dk k
13:21 Love: 01:47:687 - d here
13:22 Nwolf: only added a don on 01:11:295
13:23 Love: aw
13:23 Love: it's for the guitar XD
13:24 Nwolf: don't really like a k on 01:10:904
13:24 Love: it's a d there XP
13:24 Nwolf: oh yeah
13:25 Nwolf: don't really like a d on 01:10:904 *hides*
13:25 Love: you can always add a k on 01:10:774 - to be safe with the guitar and allow for more flow
13:25 Nwolf: hm got rid of the don then
13:25 Nwolf: on 01:11
13:25 Nwolf: :295
13:26 Love: oh, this works too http://puu.sh/8a16T.jpg
13:26 Love: from 01:10:774 -
13:29 Nwolf: hm changed without d k instead of ddk
13:29 Love: kk
13:30 Nwolf: 01:59:295 - changed here too
13:30 Nwolf: so now the muzu is perfect rite
13:31 Love: yup
13:32 Love: the finishers ofc lol
13:32 Nwolf: yayz
13:33 Nwolf: blah
13:33 Love: 00:58:513 (26,27,28,29) -
13:33 Love: this'll be quick
13:33 Love: try removing the first note
13:33 Love: then changing the last ones to k
13:34 Nwolf: hm ok
13:37 Love: 02:52:904 (5,9) - move these over 1/2
13:37 Love: just fits a little bit better
13:38 Nwolf: k
13:39 Love: 03:15:469 (48) - remove that so 03:15:730 (1) - is emphisized better
13:39 Love: could also change that to a d
13:40 Nwolf: then the note before to d too?
13:40 Love: nop
13:40 Love: what you could also do
13:40 Love: is remove 03:14:948 (46) -
13:41 Love: then leave 03:15:469 - as a d
13:41 Love: so it's k kdk
13:41 Nwolf: yeah works
13:42 Love: then that's all for the futsuu
13:42 Nwolf: finishers yes
13:42 Love: yup, I think that might be the only one
13:44 Love: 01:48:078 (1) - add a finisher on that
13:45 Love: 02:47:035 (42) - remove this for a better rhythm
13:45 Nwolf: K
13:45 Love: and since 02:48:078 - is empty
13:47 Love: 03:20:426 (10) - try removing this for a little break and a nice rhythm
13:47 Love: along with 03:16:252 (2) -
13:48 Nwolf: hm yes
13:48 Love: 03:24:600 - 03:28:774 -
13:48 Love: those 2 XD
13:48 Nwolf: yap
13:48 Love: and then finish on 03:32:426 (33) -
13:48 Love: 03:32:426 -
13:48 Love: don't want editor to bug out XD
13:49 Love: and that would be it
13:50 Nwolf: changing muzu so it has a finisher there too
13:50 Love: kk
13:50 Nwolf: and futsuu so it has a big kat
13:51 Love: oh, make kantan hp4 od3
13:51 Love: and futsuu od4
13:52 Nwolf: hm yeah
13:52 Nwolf: thanks a lot!
13:52 Love: yupyup :P

it's a nice map
Topic Starter
Nwolf
thanks a lot :3
Dainesl
IRC Mod, rechecking the Kantan, Futsuu and Muzukashii (which I modded 5 months ago now ;w;)

baka
2014-04-19 15:05 Dainesl: Nwolf
2014-04-19 15:05 Dainesl: you, me, and Gensou no Satellite
2014-04-19 15:05 Dainesl: recheck time
2014-04-19 15:06 Nwolf: k
2014-04-19 15:06 Nwolf: just going afk for a sec
2014-04-19 15:06 Dainesl: ok i'll re-DL
2014-04-19 15:08 Nwolf: woof
2014-04-19 15:08 Dainesl: right
2014-04-19 15:08 Dainesl: first thing is that the Source conflicts
2014-04-19 15:08 Dainesl: Oni diff has no Source, all the others do
2014-04-19 15:08 Nwolf: dafaq why
2014-04-19 15:09 Dainesl: don't ask why ;w;
2014-04-19 15:09 Dainesl: i'll re-DL again
2014-04-19 15:09 Dainesl: yeah that's bad
2014-04-19 15:09 Dainesl: fix that and then we'll begin
2014-04-19 15:09 Nwolf: fixed
2014-04-19 15:10 Dainesl: right, now when I look at AIMod it says that kiai is toggled very frequently (it's confusing the inherited points)
2014-04-19 15:10 Dainesl: so either make the map one or 2 volumes to fix this otherwise keep as is because AIMod is baka
2014-04-19 15:10 Nwolf: guess I can't do anything about that
2014-04-19 15:11 Dainesl: i'll see if i can get a decent 2 volumes
2014-04-19 15:11 Dainesl: or you could just have no SV changes :P
2014-04-19 15:11 Nwolf: impossible :<
2014-04-19 15:11 Dainesl: ok then
2014-04-19 15:11 Nwolf: ...well maybe in Kantan
2014-04-19 15:11 Dainesl: you don't really need SV changes for this song
2014-04-19 15:12 Dainesl: apart from the beginning, 'cause you know
2014-04-19 15:13 Nwolf: I like SV changes if they are not as stupid as in maps like Freestyler... or almost any other sp3 map :D
2014-04-19 15:13 Dainesl: ;w;
2014-04-19 15:13 Nwolf: ah in Kantan the only thing that it probably complains about is the volume change in the last kiai
2014-04-19 15:14 Dainesl: well you don't even need the 03:14:687 - point to be Kiai
2014-04-19 15:14 Dainesl: it's just a transition
2014-04-19 15:14 Dainesl: and a really loud one at that
2014-04-19 15:15 Dainesl: yes it only complains about that point btw
2014-04-19 15:15 Nwolf: hm I'll just delete the green line right after that and make the volume of the scream 75%
2014-04-19 15:15 Dainesl: no, i'm saying not to have that as Kiai at all
2014-04-19 15:15 Dainesl: in any diff
2014-04-19 15:15 Dainesl: because it's just a transition to the actual Kiai
2014-04-19 15:15 Nwolf: That was my reason to have it as kiai
2014-04-19 15:16 Dainesl: well remove the green line after that then if you wish to keep it as is
2014-04-19 15:16 Dainesl: Inner Oni has 3 of these things happening
2014-04-19 15:17 Dainesl: so please remove green lines where you need to
2014-04-19 15:17 Dainesl: and then we can finally get started! ;w;
2014-04-19 15:18 Dainesl: also remove widescreen support as TKS will only be annoyed www
2014-04-19 15:19 Nwolf: why would he be annoyed by that?
2014-04-19 15:19 Nwolf: (and ok)
2014-04-19 15:19 Dainesl: in scattered rose he /punched the widescreen support
2014-04-19 15:20 Nwolf: I hate this bug
2014-04-19 15:20 Nwolf: so much
2014-04-19 15:20 Dainesl: no wait
2014-04-19 15:20 Dainesl: i got it
2014-04-19 15:20 Dainesl: [http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/1527199 this is the issue.]
2014-04-19 15:20 Nwolf: ?
2014-04-19 15:21 Nwolf: I just got kicked out of osu
2014-04-19 15:21 Dainesl: wow ok
2014-04-19 15:21 Nwolf: I don't know what exactly you mean :D
2014-04-19 15:21 Dainesl: no wait it's actually not the issue but best you change it anyways
2014-04-19 15:21 Dainesl: there are two inherited points here
2014-04-19 15:21 Nwolf: Just in Inner, right
2014-04-19 15:22 Dainesl: no
2014-04-19 15:22 Nwolf: o
2014-04-19 15:22 Dainesl: make sure to only have one inherited point for kiai start in every diff
2014-04-19 15:22 Dainesl: also increase the volume since the song's like, really loud
2014-04-19 15:23 Dainesl: generally maybe about 80-90%
2014-04-19 15:23 Nwolf: hm k
2014-04-19 15:23 Dainesl: and after that we'll start with the mod
2014-04-19 15:28 Nwolf: k finished
2014-04-19 15:28 Nwolf: Most kiai and non-kiai parts have 85% now
2014-04-19 15:28 Dainesl: that's fine
2014-04-19 15:29 Dainesl: ACTION is editing [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/318445 Comp - Gensou no Satellite [Kantan]]
2014-04-19 15:29 Dainesl: 00:23:296 (10) - maybe make this a don instead of a kat? would add variety and there's a low-pitched drum in the background
2014-04-19 15:29 Nwolf: k
2014-04-19 15:30 Dainesl: 00:26:296 (13) - hard cymbal here, K maybe?
2014-04-19 15:30 Nwolf: would prefer to change 7 to don instead
2014-04-19 15:30 Nwolf: or no
2014-04-19 15:30 Dainesl: hm
2014-04-19 15:31 Nwolf: or 7 and 13 K, 4 and 10 d
2014-04-19 15:31 Dainesl: yes that would work best
2014-04-19 15:31 Dainesl: 7+13 K 4+10 d
2014-04-19 15:31 Nwolf: theeen it's changed now
2014-04-19 15:33 Dainesl: btw are you mainly following the vocals or the instruments in this map
2014-04-19 15:33 Nwolf: think Kantan is mostly following instruments
2014-04-19 15:33 Dainesl: since i wanna be able to give appropiate suggestions
2014-04-19 15:34 Dainesl: 00:53:817 - you know when you hear something like this?
2014-04-19 15:34 Dainesl: do you prefer to keep it k or do you think it'd fit better as K?
2014-04-19 15:34 Nwolf: hm?
2014-04-19 15:35 Dainesl: again, for better quality of suggestions
2014-04-19 15:35 Nwolf: K
2014-04-19 15:35 Dainesl: since you put k here
2014-04-19 15:35 Dainesl: and K in the next one
2014-04-19 15:35 Dainesl: k in the last one
2014-04-19 15:35 Dainesl: so yeah just saying
2014-04-19 15:36 Dainesl: just check all of those moments
2014-04-19 15:36 Dainesl: and change them to K
2014-04-19 15:37 Nwolf: I'll keep the ones after 4 beats as k (except in the first kiai, because half length)
2014-04-19 15:37 Dainesl: ok :3
2014-04-19 15:37 Dainesl: this will apply to other diffs to so ye
2014-04-19 15:37 Nwolf: thought I put finishers everywhere in the other diffs because drums
2014-04-19 15:38 Dainesl: 00:52:774 (11,12) - in terms of instruments this is low-pitch but in terms of vocals this is high pitch
2014-04-19 15:38 Dainesl: follow the instruments or the vocal here
2014-04-19 15:39 Nwolf: changing those to dons and 13 back to k
2014-04-19 15:39 Dainesl: apply that to00:55:904 (15,16,17) -
2014-04-19 15:40 Nwolf: k
2014-04-19 15:42 Dainesl: 01:21:991 (26,27) - low-pitch instruments here
2014-04-19 15:43 Dainesl: maybe change them to d 'cause of that reason?
2014-04-19 15:43 Nwolf: k
2014-04-19 15:43 Nwolf: yeah
2014-04-19 15:43 Dainesl: 01:36:600 (9,10,11) - sudden 1/1 ._.
2014-04-19 15:44 Dainesl: remove 10 maybe?
2014-04-19 15:45 Nwolf: eh I wanted 1/1 triplets somewhere in the map so Futsuu is not waaaay harder than Kantan
2014-04-19 15:45 Dainesl: ok then
2014-04-19 15:45 Dainesl: 01:40:774 (15,16,17) - maybe change 15 to k since it's a higher pitch than 16 which is k?
2014-04-19 15:46 Nwolf: and right after the kiai there is 1/1 kdd
2014-04-19 15:47 Nwolf: hm yes
2014-04-19 15:47 Dainesl: 01:45:991 (1,1) - imo these are too close together
2014-04-19 15:48 Dainesl: lower the spinner length by 1/1 perhaps?
2014-04-19 15:48 Nwolf: yeah
2014-04-19 15:49 Dainesl: 02:11:035 (34) - low pitch here, both vocal and instrument.
2014-04-19 15:50 Nwolf: ok
2014-04-19 15:50 Nwolf: traded 35 and 36 too
2014-04-19 15:50 Dainesl: k
2014-04-19 15:50 Dainesl: 02:14:165 (37,38,39) - d k k for a transition into the kiai
2014-04-19 15:51 Nwolf: k
2014-04-19 15:51 Dainesl: 02:28:774 (15,16) - swap? would flow more nicely imo
2014-04-19 15:52 Nwolf: isn't that the same as 15,16 from last kiai?
2014-04-19 15:52 Dainesl: lemme see
2014-04-19 15:52 Dainesl: oh ye it is nvm
2014-04-19 15:52 Dainesl: it's fine that suggestion is not needed anymore -w-
2014-04-19 15:52 Nwolf: changed both with kdk
2014-04-19 15:53 Nwolf: *to
2014-04-19 15:53 Dainesl: 02:41:817 - add a k here? it's awkward without one imo
2014-04-19 15:54 Dainesl: 02:42:861 (35) - if applied, remove this note to prevent too high difficulty compared to the rest of the map
2014-04-19 15:56 Nwolf: ok
2014-04-19 15:56 Dainesl: 02:50:165 (46,47,48) - this might play awkwardly for new players (ddK ;w;)
2014-04-19 15:56 Dainesl: maybe make it ddk or d K
2014-04-19 15:57 Nwolf: ddk it is
2014-04-19 15:58 Dainesl: suddenly in last kiai 7 2/1s in a row
2014-04-19 15:58 Dainesl: a lot of them
2014-04-19 15:58 Nwolf: 02:38:165 (28,29,30,31,32,33,34) - :P
2014-04-19 15:58 Nwolf: yeah
2014-04-19 15:59 Nwolf: what do
2014-04-19 16:00 Dainesl: break them up into 3 break 3, 1 break 5 or 5 break 1
2014-04-19 16:00 Dainesl: 03:18:339 (5) - remove this one perhaps? :P
2014-04-19 16:00 Dainesl: unless you think it's a key vocal bit...
2014-04-19 16:01 Nwolf: well the first vocal phrase goes from 1 -> 4 and the other one from 4 -> 8 so I deleted 3 instead
2014-04-19 16:01 Dainesl: although really it's not that bad so w/e
2014-04-19 16:02 Dainesl: 03:25:643 (18) - maybe remove this for consistency with other kiais?
2014-04-19 16:03 Nwolf: k
2014-04-19 16:04 Dainesl: 03:38:687 (32,33,34,35,36) - maybe remove 33 and 35 for a simpler pattern?
2014-04-19 16:04 Dainesl: it'll be 3/3 then 2/2
2014-04-19 16:04 Dainesl: *3/1 then 2/1 gg me
2014-04-19 16:05 Nwolf: http://puu.sh/8eYPG.jpg does that look good
2014-04-19 16:07 Dainesl: [http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/1527360 i was intending on it looking like this]
2014-04-19 16:07 Dainesl: it flows better with the music imo :P
2014-04-19 16:07 Dainesl: ACTION is editing [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/318444 Comp - Gensou no Satellite [Futsuu]]
2014-04-19 16:07 Dainesl: ok
2014-04-19 16:08 Nwolf: k
2014-04-19 16:08 Dainesl: 00:16:921 (5) - i think this could still work as a k
2014-04-19 16:09 Nwolf: yes
2014-04-19 16:09 Dainesl: 00:18:046 (7,8) - very high pitch here, make these k
2014-04-19 16:10 Nwolf: but my beautiful k then d system D:
2014-04-19 16:10 Dainesl: ;w;
2014-04-19 16:11 Dainesl: hold on
2014-04-19 16:11 Dainesl: you could keep 8 as d maybe??
2014-04-19 16:11 Nwolf: hm why
2014-04-19 16:11 Dainesl: 00:22:921 (15,16) - where is your system here
2014-04-19 16:11 Dainesl: :P
2014-04-19 16:12 Nwolf: eeeeeeeerm #blameloctav2014
2014-04-19 16:12 Dainesl: k
2014-04-19 16:12 Nwolf: ook changed 7 and 8 to kats
2014-04-19 16:14 Dainesl: make 15 a don at least ;;
2014-04-19 16:14 Nwolf: don
2014-04-19 16:15 Dainesl: yes
2014-04-19 16:15 Nwolf: (e)
2014-04-19 16:15 Dainesl: ok
2014-04-19 16:15 Dainesl: 00:25:921 (20) - maybe this should be a don as the pitch is quite low here?
2014-04-19 16:16 Nwolf: think kD is easier to play though
2014-04-19 16:16 Nwolf: brb
2014-04-19 16:16 Dainesl: ok
2014-04-19 16:18 Nwolf: woof
2014-04-19 16:20 Dainesl: ok
2014-04-19 16:20 Dainesl: 00:33:796 (33,34,35,36) - all relatively the same pitch, make them all k maybe?
2014-04-19 16:21 Dainesl: would make for a simpler pattern imo
2014-04-19 16:22 Nwolf: k
2014-04-19 16:22 Dainesl: kiai time 1 feels a bit empty in terms of vocal mapping there's sudden 4/1 gaps ;w;
2014-04-19 16:23 Nwolf: yeah think I did that to avoid making Futsuu too dense and therefore too hard compared to Kantan
2014-04-19 16:23 Dainesl: well you could fill it with 2/1
2014-04-19 16:24 Nwolf: hm ok
2014-04-19 16:24 Dainesl: it's easier than the bit just after ;w;
2014-04-19 16:25 Nwolf: holy shit I just noticed so many errors in Futsuu's kiai it's not funny anymore
2014-04-19 16:25 Dainesl: why did you map the bit after the first kiai the way you did
2014-04-19 16:26 Dainesl: it's like it has the style that people would consider a Kantan but it has the density of a Futsuu+ ;;
2014-04-19 16:26 Dainesl: brb
2014-04-19 16:27 Dainesl: back
2014-04-19 16:27 Nwolf: idk why I mapped it the way I did, it happened 5 months ago and I think I found it hard to map
2014-04-19 16:27 Nwolf: wb
2014-04-19 16:28 Dainesl: make it a bit less dense and follow the downbeat ;;
2014-04-19 16:28 Dainesl: 'cause 01:19:643 (76,77,78,79) - is awkward
2014-04-19 16:29 Nwolf: everything until I stopped mapping that way is awkward
2014-04-19 16:29 Dainesl: ;w;
2014-04-19 16:29 Dainesl: 01:25:904 (89) - high-pitch vocal, maybe make it a kat?
2014-04-19 16:30 Nwolf: http://puu.sh/8f082.jpg looks good?
2014-04-19 16:30 Nwolf: yeah changed
2014-04-19 16:30 Dainesl: sure
2014-04-19 16:31 Dainesl: 01:38:426 (22) - aaaaaaa why u do dis ;w;
2014-04-19 16:32 Nwolf: blame hata
2014-04-19 16:32 Nwolf: *hides*
2014-04-19 16:33 Nwolf: guess you want a kat there right
2014-04-19 16:33 Dainesl: ye
2014-04-19 16:33 Nwolf: and 29 too
2014-04-19 16:33 Dainesl: and 26
2014-04-19 16:33 Dainesl: 01:40:513 (26) -
2014-04-19 16:33 Nwolf: yeah numbers are different because I mapped the 4/1 breaks
2014-04-19 16:34 Dainesl: 01:41:556 (29) - but this could be a don to transition into 30? -w-
2014-04-19 16:34 Nwolf: yeah actually like that
2014-04-19 16:35 Dainesl: same thing as first after-kiai
2014-04-19 16:35 Dainesl: why u map like this ;w;
2014-04-19 16:35 Nwolf: nwolf maps crap futsuu completly changed
2014-04-19 16:35 Nwolf: idk
2014-04-19 16:35 Nwolf: punch the me of 5 months ago
2014-04-19 16:35 Dainesl: ACTION punches 5-months-ago Nwolf
2014-04-19 16:36 Nwolf: ow ;_;
2014-04-19 16:36 Dainesl: 02:07:643 (43,44,45,46) -
2014-04-19 16:36 Dainesl: same deal as before
2014-04-19 16:37 Dainesl: 02:20:165 (7) - kat please
2014-04-19 16:37 Dainesl: 02:26:426 (22) - whee
2014-04-19 16:38 Nwolf: why did I map this
2014-04-19 16:38 Dainesl: because you wanted to?
2014-04-19 16:38 Dainesl: also it's starred so keep goin
2014-04-19 16:38 Dainesl: *going
2014-04-19 16:38 Nwolf: yeha
2014-04-19 16:40 Dainesl: 02:43:643 (65,66) - ??? the only 230 BPM 1/2 in this
2014-04-19 16:41 Nwolf: lol
2014-04-19 16:41 Dainesl: 03:20:948 (16) - high pitch here k pls :<
2014-04-19 16:41 Dainesl: 03:24:861 (27) - 03:26:948 (32) - ok
2014-04-19 16:41 what about 4 *hides*
2014-04-19 16:42 Dainesl: no, vocal's low pitch here
2014-04-19 16:42 Nwolf: ...yes
2014-04-19 16:42 Nwolf: can you explain to me why the first half of the last kiai is mapped harder than the 2nd
2014-04-19 16:42 Dainesl: uhhhhhhhh
2014-04-19 16:43 Dainesl: no i can't
2014-04-19 16:43 Dainesl: 03:27:730 (34,35) - dons please, would make a nice transition into the last bt
2014-04-19 16:43 Dainesl: *bit
2014-04-19 16:43 Dainesl: 03:40:774 (1) - why is this spinner here????
2014-04-19 16:44 Nwolf: Notes are way too boring!
2014-04-19 16:44 Dainesl: OK!
2014-04-19 16:45 Nwolf: http://puu.sh/8f0YI.jpg better now
2014-04-19 16:45 Nwolf: first don is where spinner started
2014-04-19 16:45 Dainesl: yey
2014-04-19 16:46 Dainesl: should i re-check Muzu too or not
2014-04-19 16:46 Dainesl: i'm lazy atm ;;
2014-04-19 16:46 Nwolf: idk
2014-04-19 16:46 Nwolf: should I upload futsuu first so you can look at the new stupidly mapped parts after 1st and 2nd kiai
2014-04-19 16:47 Dainesl: no
2014-04-19 16:47 Dainesl: i'm not re-re-checking this map
2014-04-19 16:47 Nwolf: k
2014-04-19 16:47 Nwolf: then thanks :3
2014-04-19 16:47 Dainesl: oh you uploaded anyways
2014-04-19 16:47 Dainesl: well i'ma check Muzukashii anyways
2014-04-19 16:47 Nwolf: k
2014-04-19 16:48 Nwolf: muzu perfect nwolf best muzu mapper 201X
2014-04-19 16:48 Dainesl: 00:16:921 (6) - ok maybe make this a k since the pitch is quite high
2014-04-19 16:48 Nwolf: fak
2014-04-19 16:48 Dainesl: 01:29:165 - no, don't put 2 inherited points in a row here >_>
2014-04-19 16:49 Nwolf: yeah
2014-04-19 16:49 Dainesl: don't let AIMod see
2014-04-19 16:49 Nwolf: I think it was a little bit buggy when I did that because the first note of the kiai didn't speed up correctly
2014-04-19 16:49 Nwolf: buuuuut I think it's fixed
2014-04-19 16:50 Dainesl: ;w;
2014-04-19 16:51 Dainesl: 00:22:921 (18) - d for consistency with previous pattern
2014-04-19 16:51 Nwolf: k
2014-04-19 16:51 Dainesl: 00:33:796 (40,41,42,43,44,45,46,47,48,49,50,51,52,53,1) - suddenly so many notes omg
2014-04-19 16:52 Nwolf: it's just 160 BPM 1/2 :D
2014-04-19 16:52 Nwolf: 00:36:233 (51) - deleted this note ok
2014-04-19 16:52 Dainesl: ok!
2014-04-19 16:52 Dainesl: 00:54:469 (30,31) - swap, vocal suggests kd here
2014-04-19 16:53 Nwolf: but dk dk is way cooler :D
2014-04-19 16:53 Dainesl: 00:56:948 (1) - why a spinner here when none was present in the kantan+futsuu
2014-04-19 16:53 Dainesl: also no, dk kd has variety and still flows well -w-
2014-04-19 16:53 Nwolf: ...blah changed :<
2014-04-19 16:53 Nwolf: Because notes are way too mainstream
2014-04-19 16:53 Nwolf: (aka I have no idea)
2014-04-19 16:54 Dainesl: 01:28:774 - this gap feels a bit awkward to me
2014-04-19 16:54 Nwolf: don?
2014-04-19 16:54 Dainesl: sure
2014-04-19 16:55 Dainesl: i just realised there are no 2/1 breaks in the Kiais
2014-04-19 16:55 Dainesl: 01:36:600 (34,35,36,37) - oh god why
2014-04-19 16:56 Dainesl: ;w;
2014-04-19 16:56 Nwolf: blue tick felt lonely
2014-04-19 16:56 Dainesl: ;w;
2014-04-19 16:56 Dainesl: 01:47:687 (84) - maybe remove this? it'd work better for a Muzu imo
2014-04-19 16:56 Nwolf: smooooch had no 2/1 breaks neither!
2014-04-19 16:56 Nwolf: ...
2014-04-19 16:56 Dainesl: but smooooch is 177 BPM
2014-04-19 16:56 Dainesl: this is 230
2014-04-19 16:57 Nwolf: oh yeah
2014-04-19 16:57 Dainesl: so 2/1 breaks are something that is quite necessary in Muzu and below
2014-04-19 16:57 Dainesl: definitely in Kantan+Futsuu (which were chock-full of them)
2014-04-19 16:57 Nwolf: oh yeah I didn't want to add that note but forgot to defend myself against Love : D
2014-04-19 16:57 Dainesl: ;w;
2014-04-19 16:58 Nwolf: 01:33:209 (18) - delete then?
2014-04-19 16:58 Dainesl: yeah, doesn't really need to be there
2014-04-19 16:58 Nwolf: just wanna make sure before I make breaks
2014-04-19 16:58 Dainesl: 01:41:556 (57) - and delete this maybe
2014-04-19 16:59 Dainesl: 02:08:426 - lonely white tick :c
2014-04-19 17:00 Nwolf: ok ok
2014-04-19 17:00 Dainesl: 02:28:382 (52,53) - kd please -w-
2014-04-19 17:01 Dainesl: did you copy/paste for the Kiai
2014-04-19 17:01 Nwolf: copy/paste + change some notes/patterns yes
2014-04-19 17:02 Dainesl: 03:09:209 (112,113) - uhhhh
2014-04-19 17:02 Dainesl: why are these finishers here
2014-04-19 17:02 Dainesl: 03:11:295 (117,118) - 03:13:382 (122,123) - same with these
2014-04-19 17:03 Nwolf: aaah because of the beginning of the 230 BPM section
2014-04-19 17:03 Nwolf: 00:41:296 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - those were all finishers
2014-04-19 17:03 Nwolf: and the part you mentioned is pretty much the same again
2014-04-19 17:03 Dainesl: 03:14:687 (1) - again, spinner present where it shouldn't be
2014-04-19 17:04 Nwolf: k kdk k
2014-04-19 17:04 Dainesl: 03:18:469 (14) - d pls :<
2014-04-19 17:05 Nwolf: ja
2014-04-19 17:05 Dainesl: and that's it
2014-04-19 17:05 Dainesl: will post in the thread now
2014-04-19 17:05 Nwolf: 00:41:296 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - I miss my finishers ;_;
2014-04-19 17:05 Dainesl: ;_;
2014-04-19 17:05 Dainesl: they didn't fit tho
2014-04-19 17:06 Nwolf: I think they did but I guess now too many people complained D:
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