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Miyu

maal wrote:

Kanye West wrote:

Lol enemy team picks quinn adc = free win, pick thresh or J4 and dunk her all day erryday
she can E out of j4s ult you know


also, miyu, i tend to use quinn's ult to assassinate the enemy adc if i spot them out of position.
oohooo -nods- ty for the tip xD...
maal
also tbh quinn isnt op at all

she's not even a strong pick

but if you get a good snowball on her, you can easily get big pretty fast due to her ultimate's power spike
Ceph23
I never really saw quin as OP. How is she OP?
Miyu

Ceph23 wrote:

I never really saw quin as OP. How is she OP?
that wasnt even mentioned
Sapphiire_old_1
Her playstyle is a bit dangerous.
Her E can cause you to land under enemy tower range, like Vi's ult.
Her being squishy can mean death on certain situation.
Her R put you in melee position.
I guess her style would be split-pushing AD bruiser or carry.
She can escape well and scout if enemy went missing from the map.
Joining fight a bit late with teleport will allow her to clean up after enemy waste their skills and only auto-attacking. So she turns to Valor, E to middle of enemy and Q to mess up enemies AA.
But it's just my opinion.
PyaKura
She's got a decent burst with Harrier, and pokes very well with it. I see her more like a squishy AD bruiser (even squishier than Riven, given she has no shield) who hurts at range for a decent amount of single target damage. Her ult isn't really useful, but it serves multiple purposes such as splitpushing, fleeing (21 secs of absurd amount of mobility) or executing an enemy. With the AS buff it also provides a power spike in a short duration fight, but if you don't end it quickly you'll end up losing more damage over time since you can't rely on Harrier while in Valor form.
Sapphiire_old_1
SPOILER
Some Tips and Tricks :


Aatrox:
-It's easier to land Q if you slow with E first.
-Only have Blood Thirst active while jungling if below 50%
-His ult gives extra range, use it if you're lacking just a bit of movement speed to catch up.

Ahri:
-Her W's count as single target spells, applying the full slow from Rylais and Spellvamp.
-Use her ult to re-direct her Q.
-Charm Flash Trick

Akali:
-Use shroud to over a wall to give vision and escape to a camp.
-Do NOT all in as soon as you hit 6, your ult needs to gain charges.
-Base at 6, buy, have 3 ult stacks back in lane and kill.
-When laning, land a Q on your enemy, then wait for it to go off cooldown before you engage, so you can proc 2 Q's in a hurry

Alistar:
-To WQ combo, use w and basically as soon as you see yourself start to move you press Q.
-At level 16 your ult gives you 90 free AD, that's almost a fully stacked Bloodthirster. Don't forget to auto attack in fights.

Amumu:
-Dont take a skill untill the buff spawns, If you are going to be able to get your blue start W, if not start E.
-Smite to clear way for your Q.

Anivia:
-You can cast E and then ult beneath them to still get the damage bonus, because E has a travel time.
-By pressing Q again after you release the ball you can make it explode when you want.
-Your wall does 1 true damage, meaning it will cancel enemy recalls and cause you to take turret agro.
-If you cast your wall almost on top of someone who is standing directly next to an environmental wall, it "pinches" them and leaves them essentially stunned for the duration of the wall.

Annie:
-Start with W and charge a stun up in fountain, 1 less than required if you are leashing and feeling generous to spend mana on the leash.
-When you have your stun active you will have a whirl around you which can give it away, also Annie laughs when her stun is available.
-Control Tibbers with R, controlling him while backing will not stop your back.
-You can cast E while your Q is in mid-flight and you have 3 charges to prime the stun and land it when your Q hits.

Ashe:
-When ulting consider the flow of the map and the choice of pathing the enemy has to take.

Blitz:
-You can stand behind enemy caster minions where the enemy thinks they are safe, then ult to clear them and pull.
-You miss 100% of the shots you don't take, but don't spam and lose presence.

Caitlyn:
-You can E and then immediately Q to slow and then hit your target with the Q.

Cassiopeia:
-The best time to ult is as they cast a spell or auto attack, because they have just committed to an action that has them facing in your direction.

Cho'Gath:
-He gets free health, so you are going to want armor/mr to support that.
-You can turn his E off so you don't take agro while pushing down turrets.
-A red circle under the enemy means that your feast does enough damage to kill them.

Diana:
-You can Q and then ult to a target before the Q lands, and if It does your ult will be refreshed.

Draven:
-Axes will go the direction you are facing when they HIT the target, not when they leave your hand.

Elise:
-You can gank lanes from behind their turret using rappel to avoid the turret shot without losing health.
-Your Cocoon gives vision.
-If you cast W in human form then switch to spider form and Q, the spider will follow.

Evelynn:
-Use W after the slow is applied to you, not when you see it being cast.

Fiddlesticks:
-Think about the potential bounce targets when using E, if you wait just a second longer will it only bounce between your target and a minion?
-For the love of god make sure your ult is going before you Zhonya's.

Fiora:
-Her ult applies on hit effects such as red buff and Tiamat passive.
If you have a lot of lifesteal, ult when you are low on health, rather than to initiate.

Fizz:
-Your E radius is larger if you don't press it again, and it applies a slow.
-You can place wards mid E, such as Playful over wall->Ward->Trickster back over wall.
-You don't need to use your ult to initiate, try Q'ing and then making a point blank shot.

Galio:
-You're an unstoppable rock in the lane, but you need to gank and help the team.

Gangplank:
-Your Q is an auto attack reset, with Hydra you are very dangerous in melee range.
-Your passive may not seem like much, but with your E it helps assure they can't escape just by walking.

Gragas:
-Consider maxing W second instead of E.
-Don't just drop the ult, take a moment and think of who you can displace.
-With scaling AP runes, a Ring start, and maxing Q, you can clear enemy caster minions at level 8 with one Q.

Graves:
-You can use your W and Q on a bush, and if you gain a passive stack, guess what? There's an enemy in there.

Hecarim:
-Ult into a crowd and use E to push one enemy back to your team.

Heimerdinger:
-Immediately make your way to the lane and start to set up turrets.
-Your ganks are pretty good with the upgraded E.
-General rule for what to upgrade in fights; AOE: Turret. Single Target: W. Need CC: E.

Irelia:
-Level 9 is your highlight, your true dmg doesn't scale so this is the most it's gonna do. Try to teamfight.
-Use your ult to whittle down caster minions and then jump to them to escape or engage.
-Whether your E slows or stuns is based off of health PERCENTAGE not the number of health they have compared to yours.

Janna:
-A well timed flash ult can push an entire team out of dragon/Baron pit.

Jarvan:
-Your passive is based of current health, so when jungling auto attack, THEN cast E, for the most damage.
-You can lower your ult by pressing R again.

Jax:
-Don't Q just as your E is wearing off and miss your stun, that's embarrassing.
-Keep a ward or trinket handy to place over a wall in order to Q to and escape.

Jayce:
-Alternate between Hammer and Cannon form to get around quickly.
-In Cannon form Q'ing and then placing E infront of it makes it less predictable.

Jinx:
-In teamfights when people start flying all over, sometimes its best to not waste your time casting W to just end up hitting a Malphite, or worse, him hitting you.

Karma:
-Mantra'd W restores 20% of MISSING health, making it a good bait tool and more effective at lower health.

Karthus:
-You have time to cast 3 Q's and Ult while dead. Or 2 Q's, a Wall, and ult.

Katarina:
-keep a ward or trinket handy in order for escapes.
-Your ult only targets 3 people.

Kayle:
-Your ult prevents people from taking damage, it is not the same as Tryndameres ult. Use it to prevent damage, not death.

Kennen:
-Your ult still ticks while in Zhonyas
-The bigger group you are ulting the more spread out your damage will be.

Kha'Zix:
-If you walk into a bush and don't gain your passive, there's vision.
-With Ravenous Hydra you can E onto an enemy hiding in his caster minions, Activate Hydra, to clear the minions and get an easy Isolated Q.

Leblanc:
-You are briefly invisible when your passive is activated, use this time to get away.
-Always control your clone.
-Mimicked W is good for a grouped teamfight, while mimicked Q is good for a quick assassination.
-Your Ult has no mana cost.

Lee Sin:
-Your second cast of W gives you spell vamp, which means you gain health from all your spells, including smite.
-You can Q a camp over a wall and activate it again, mid air you can smite the monster, ending up having your Q deal more damage.
-Always QRQ for the best damage combination.
-If you have a ravenous hydra don't E->Activate, if you E->auto attack->Activate->Auto attack you will gain a lot of energy back and do a lot of dmg very quickly.
-It's easier to W mid Q if you don't have your screen locked/Holding Space.
-Use the enemy to escape, by landing a Q and kicking him where you want to go, the enemy is essentially a free taxi.

Leona:
-Your E goes to the last person it makes contact with, be careful.
-You can kill wards at level one with AA->Q->AA

Lissandra:
-You can juke opponents by casting E in one direction and walking another, If they chase you, activate E again, if they go after your E, just walk away.
-Your Q only slows the first person that it comes in contact with.

Lucian:
-Position yourself correctly before you ult, think about where they have to run to.
-Your E breaks slows, so use it after you are slowed, not when you see the animation.

Lulu:
-You can E a minion and then Q, using it as a proxy for extra range.

Lux:
-Use your E to slow the enemy to make your Q easier to hit.
-Your Q is able of hitting two enemies.
-Cast your shield in the direction you are running, it will return to you quicker, thus having the next application of the shield sooner.

Malphite:
-Remember Q steals movement speed.
-E does dmg, and it is also an attack speed slow.

Malzahar:
-Voidlings have a priority order of Ult>E>Anything else.
-You can cast ignite while ulting, but make sure you are in range, Ult range>Ignite Range.
-Don't ult the guy with the QSS.

Maokai:
-before you W, remember that you get dragged with them, W'ing a LeBlanc may not be the best idea.

Mordekaiser:
- Q is an auto attack reset

Morgana:
-Black shield will stop any CC, but only Magical damage.

Nautilus:
-Your ult will travel knocking up all people in its way, so don't always use it on the person in the front of the pack.

Miss Fortune:
-Q procs W's effect. It will apply the mark if you W mid-Q. Also, Q will bounce to a target in the bush, even if you don't have vision on them.

Nocturne:
-Your W will block a spell from Baron, giving you an attack speed buff.
-Sometimes its worth it to use your ult even if you have no plan of following up, just to help a teammate escape.
-If you're caught out look to an enemy that you can ult to and escape.

Orianna:
-Your E gives Mr and Armor along with a shield.
-Try starting with E in lane and auto attack trade at level 1.
-Make use of the dmg E does when it travels.
-Some lanes you want to max W some you want to max Q.
-Wait for the perfect shockwave, but not too long.
-W will speed anyone on your team up and slow any enemy down.
-You can place your ball inside of a wall and out of enemy vision, when they come near you can move it out of the wall for a surprise attack, they won't see the ball coming towards them.

Pantheon:
-Supposedly you can move during his ult, after you fly into the sky, but before you land.

Poppy:
-If you're in a teamfight ult someone that doesn't do much dmg or cc. But if you're hunting someone down ult them for the extra bonus.
Ult->DFG->EQ is oneshot.

Quinn:
-Max E instead of Q, and use it in trades and to interrupt actions.
-In teamfights don't consider your ult a damage boost, think of it is a means to reposition, escape, or chase.

Renekton:
-W is AA reset; Hydra/Tiamat active cancels W animation.

Riven:
-Auto attack between each Q.
-E after activating ult to cancel the animation and skip to kicking ass.

Rumble:
-You can hit the danger zone at level 1 by spamming Q.
-Sit just out of turret range with Q over your minions to make the enemy pay for last hitting.

Shaco:
-Don't underestimate passive.
-Quickly pressing B and then canceling while stealthed will break the stealth and start the cooldown on Q.
-You're R is a disjoint, you basically cease to exist for about half a second when you cast it. You can use this to dodge any skill.
-Don't use your E at the start of a gank, it applies a slow effect on hit first, then used to execute or if the enemy is out of range.

Shen:
-Flashing mid taunt is a good way to surprise enemies and get extra range on your taunt.

Shyvana:
-Don't W before you ult, it's less effective.
-Flashing mid ult will still cause knockback.

Singed:
-You can flip people over walls.
-Binding two keys to your Q and pressing them at the same time will cause your poison to be invisible and leave a thinner stream of poison.

Sivir:
-Shield important spells, not easy ones.

Skarner:
-While ulting someone, at the last second you can switch directions and go the opposite way you have been dragging them, cause you to essentially switch places with them, dragging them an extra 2-3 teemo lengths.

Swain:
-Slow them to make W easier to hit.
-You still get healed through Zhonyas if activated while in Raven form.

Syndra:
-More balls more damage.
-Throwing buffs will apply either a slow or a mana refund with cooldown.

Talon:
-E->auto attack->Q for max burst when fighting.

Taric:
-Your E does more damage the closer you are to the enemy.

-Thresh:
-Your lantern has a ring around it that indicates how much time is left before it expires.
-If the enemy is engaging, try throwing your lantern backwards and fake that your jungler is coming in, they may run off.

Tristana:
-You can flash mid W and still apply the slow and damage.
-If you Ult before you dfg, the dfg can reach the target faster.

Twisted Fate:
-Blue->Red->Gold

Twitch:
-Position well for best use of ult.
-Ult can hit both nexus turrets at once.
-Invisible recall by pressing B during the initial stealth activation, but will fail when pressed after you are stealthed.

Udyr:
-http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=scyl2rTHhdw

Vayne:
-Tumbling against a wall, meaning you are at the wall before you tumble, will reset your auto attack.

Viktor:
-Get used to his E.
-Control ult.

Vladimir:
-You can pool->zhonyas->pool for a long time of untargetable.

Volibear:
-Your W is an execute, lower health they are the more damage it does.

Warwick:
-Turn E off when you are trying to sneak up on a low health lane.

Wukong:
-You can press S to stop your movements and make the enemy think you have used W.

Xerath:
-Use This For fastest stun activation.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zMN_cTQVZ-c

Xin Zhao:
-Your ult does 15% of the enemies current health, meaning it is more effective to use it earlier in a fight.

Ziggs:
-Your E gives you vision.
-Always auto attack when your passive is up.

Zyra:
-You can cast your Q or E and then place seeds before the spells detonate and still create plants.





Note: i dident write those tips and tricks i got it from a post from reddit but i wanted to share this with u guys :)
BrokenArrow
Put those into a spoilerbox or something
Sapphiire_old_1

BrokenArrow wrote:

Put those into a spoilerbox or something

Done ;)
Ceph23

SoG Tava wrote:

SPOILER
Some Tips and Tricks :


Aatrox:
-It's easier to land Q if you slow with E first.
-Only have Blood Thirst active while jungling if below 50%
-His ult gives extra range, use it if you're lacking just a bit of movement speed to catch up.

Ahri:
-Her W's count as single target spells, applying the full slow from Rylais and Spellvamp.
-Use her ult to re-direct her Q.
-Charm Flash Trick

Akali:
-Use shroud to over a wall to give vision and escape to a camp.
-Do NOT all in as soon as you hit 6, your ult needs to gain charges.
-Base at 6, buy, have 3 ult stacks back in lane and kill.
-When laning, land a Q on your enemy, then wait for it to go off cooldown before you engage, so you can proc 2 Q's in a hurry

Alistar:
-To WQ combo, use w and basically as soon as you see yourself start to move you press Q.
-At level 16 your ult gives you 90 free AD, that's almost a fully stacked Bloodthirster. Don't forget to auto attack in fights.

Amumu:
-Dont take a skill untill the buff spawns, If you are going to be able to get your blue start W, if not start E.
-Smite to clear way for your Q.

Anivia:
-You can cast E and then ult beneath them to still get the damage bonus, because E has a travel time.
-By pressing Q again after you release the ball you can make it explode when you want.
-Your wall does 1 true damage, meaning it will cancel enemy recalls and cause you to take turret agro.
-If you cast your wall almost on top of someone who is standing directly next to an environmental wall, it "pinches" them and leaves them essentially stunned for the duration of the wall.

Annie:
-Start with W and charge a stun up in fountain, 1 less than required if you are leashing and feeling generous to spend mana on the leash.
-When you have your stun active you will have a whirl around you which can give it away, also Annie laughs when her stun is available.
-Control Tibbers with R, controlling him while backing will not stop your back.
-You can cast E while your Q is in mid-flight and you have 3 charges to prime the stun and land it when your Q hits.

Ashe:
-When ulting consider the flow of the map and the choice of pathing the enemy has to take.

Blitz:
-You can stand behind enemy caster minions where the enemy thinks they are safe, then ult to clear them and pull.
-You miss 100% of the shots you don't take, but don't spam and lose presence.

Caitlyn:
-You can E and then immediately Q to slow and then hit your target with the Q.

Cassiopeia:
-The best time to ult is as they cast a spell or auto attack, because they have just committed to an action that has them facing in your direction.

Cho'Gath:
-He gets free health, so you are going to want armor/mr to support that.
-You can turn his E off so you don't take agro while pushing down turrets.
-A red circle under the enemy means that your feast does enough damage to kill them.

Diana:
-You can Q and then ult to a target before the Q lands, and if It does your ult will be refreshed.

Draven:
-Axes will go the direction you are facing when they HIT the target, not when they leave your hand.

Elise:
-You can gank lanes from behind their turret using rappel to avoid the turret shot without losing health.
-Your Cocoon gives vision.
-If you cast W in human form then switch to spider form and Q, the spider will follow.

Evelynn:
-Use W after the slow is applied to you, not when you see it being cast.

Fiddlesticks:
-Think about the potential bounce targets when using E, if you wait just a second longer will it only bounce between your target and a minion?
-For the love of god make sure your ult is going before you Zhonya's.

Fiora:
-Her ult applies on hit effects such as red buff and Tiamat passive.
If you have a lot of lifesteal, ult when you are low on health, rather than to initiate.

Fizz:
-Your E radius is larger if you don't press it again, and it applies a slow.
-You can place wards mid E, such as Playful over wall->Ward->Trickster back over wall.
-You don't need to use your ult to initiate, try Q'ing and then making a point blank shot.

Galio:
-You're an unstoppable rock in the lane, but you need to gank and help the team.

Gangplank:
-Your Q is an auto attack reset, with Hydra you are very dangerous in melee range.
-Your passive may not seem like much, but with your E it helps assure they can't escape just by walking.

Gragas:
-Consider maxing W second instead of E.
-Don't just drop the ult, take a moment and think of who you can displace.
-With scaling AP runes, a Ring start, and maxing Q, you can clear enemy caster minions at level 8 with one Q.

Graves:
-You can use your W and Q on a bush, and if you gain a passive stack, guess what? There's an enemy in there.

Hecarim:
-Ult into a crowd and use E to push one enemy back to your team.

Heimerdinger:
-Immediately make your way to the lane and start to set up turrets.
-Your ganks are pretty good with the upgraded E.
-General rule for what to upgrade in fights; AOE: Turret. Single Target: W. Need CC: E.

Irelia:
-Level 9 is your highlight, your true dmg doesn't scale so this is the most it's gonna do. Try to teamfight.
-Use your ult to whittle down caster minions and then jump to them to escape or engage.
-Whether your E slows or stuns is based off of health PERCENTAGE not the number of health they have compared to yours.

Janna:
-A well timed flash ult can push an entire team out of dragon/Baron pit.

Jarvan:
-Your passive is based of current health, so when jungling auto attack, THEN cast E, for the most damage.
-You can lower your ult by pressing R again.

Jax:
-Don't Q just as your E is wearing off and miss your stun, that's embarrassing.
-Keep a ward or trinket handy to place over a wall in order to Q to and escape.

Jayce:
-Alternate between Hammer and Cannon form to get around quickly.
-In Cannon form Q'ing and then placing E infront of it makes it less predictable.

Jinx:
-In teamfights when people start flying all over, sometimes its best to not waste your time casting W to just end up hitting a Malphite, or worse, him hitting you.

Karma:
-Mantra'd W restores 20% of MISSING health, making it a good bait tool and more effective at lower health.

Karthus:
-You have time to cast 3 Q's and Ult while dead. Or 2 Q's, a Wall, and ult.

Katarina:
-keep a ward or trinket handy in order for escapes.
-Your ult only targets 3 people.

Kayle:
-Your ult prevents people from taking damage, it is not the same as Tryndameres ult. Use it to prevent damage, not death.

Kennen:
-Your ult still ticks while in Zhonyas
-The bigger group you are ulting the more spread out your damage will be.

Kha'Zix:
-If you walk into a bush and don't gain your passive, there's vision.
-With Ravenous Hydra you can E onto an enemy hiding in his caster minions, Activate Hydra, to clear the minions and get an easy Isolated Q.

Leblanc:
-You are briefly invisible when your passive is activated, use this time to get away.
-Always control your clone.
-Mimicked W is good for a grouped teamfight, while mimicked Q is good for a quick assassination.
-Your Ult has no mana cost.

Lee Sin:
-Your second cast of W gives you spell vamp, which means you gain health from all your spells, including smite.
-You can Q a camp over a wall and activate it again, mid air you can smite the monster, ending up having your Q deal more damage.
-Always QRQ for the best damage combination.
-If you have a ravenous hydra don't E->Activate, if you E->auto attack->Activate->Auto attack you will gain a lot of energy back and do a lot of dmg very quickly.
-It's easier to W mid Q if you don't have your screen locked/Holding Space.
-Use the enemy to escape, by landing a Q and kicking him where you want to go, the enemy is essentially a free taxi.

Leona:
-Your E goes to the last person it makes contact with, be careful.
-You can kill wards at level one with AA->Q->AA

Lissandra:
-You can juke opponents by casting E in one direction and walking another, If they chase you, activate E again, if they go after your E, just walk away.
-Your Q only slows the first person that it comes in contact with.

Lucian:
-Position yourself correctly before you ult, think about where they have to run to.
-Your E breaks slows, so use it after you are slowed, not when you see the animation.

Lulu:
-You can E a minion and then Q, using it as a proxy for extra range.

Lux:
-Use your E to slow the enemy to make your Q easier to hit.
-Your Q is able of hitting two enemies.
-Cast your shield in the direction you are running, it will return to you quicker, thus having the next application of the shield sooner.

Malphite:
-Remember Q steals movement speed.
-E does dmg, and it is also an attack speed slow.

Malzahar:
-Voidlings have a priority order of Ult>E>Anything else.
-You can cast ignite while ulting, but make sure you are in range, Ult range>Ignite Range.
-Don't ult the guy with the QSS.

Maokai:
-before you W, remember that you get dragged with them, W'ing a LeBlanc may not be the best idea.

Mordekaiser:
- Q is an auto attack reset

Morgana:
-Black shield will stop any CC, but only Magical damage.

Nautilus:
-Your ult will travel knocking up all people in its way, so don't always use it on the person in the front of the pack.

Miss Fortune:
-Q procs W's effect. It will apply the mark if you W mid-Q. Also, Q will bounce to a target in the bush, even if you don't have vision on them.

Nocturne:
-Your W will block a spell from Baron, giving you an attack speed buff.
-Sometimes its worth it to use your ult even if you have no plan of following up, just to help a teammate escape.
-If you're caught out look to an enemy that you can ult to and escape.

Orianna:
-Your E gives Mr and Armor along with a shield.
-Try starting with E in lane and auto attack trade at level 1.
-Make use of the dmg E does when it travels.
-Some lanes you want to max W some you want to max Q.
-Wait for the perfect shockwave, but not too long.
-W will speed anyone on your team up and slow any enemy down.
-You can place your ball inside of a wall and out of enemy vision, when they come near you can move it out of the wall for a surprise attack, they won't see the ball coming towards them.

Pantheon:
-Supposedly you can move during his ult, after you fly into the sky, but before you land.

Poppy:
-If you're in a teamfight ult someone that doesn't do much dmg or cc. But if you're hunting someone down ult them for the extra bonus.
Ult->DFG->EQ is oneshot.

Quinn:
-Max E instead of Q, and use it in trades and to interrupt actions.
-In teamfights don't consider your ult a damage boost, think of it is a means to reposition, escape, or chase.

Renekton:
-W is AA reset; Hydra/Tiamat active cancels W animation.

Riven:
-Auto attack between each Q.
-E after activating ult to cancel the animation and skip to kicking ass.

Rumble:
-You can hit the danger zone at level 1 by spamming Q.
-Sit just out of turret range with Q over your minions to make the enemy pay for last hitting.

Shaco:
-Don't underestimate passive.
-Quickly pressing B and then canceling while stealthed will break the stealth and start the cooldown on Q.
-You're R is a disjoint, you basically cease to exist for about half a second when you cast it. You can use this to dodge any skill.
-Don't use your E at the start of a gank, it applies a slow effect on hit first, then used to execute or if the enemy is out of range.

Shen:
-Flashing mid taunt is a good way to surprise enemies and get extra range on your taunt.

Shyvana:
-Don't W before you ult, it's less effective.
-Flashing mid ult will still cause knockback.

Singed:
-You can flip people over walls.
-Binding two keys to your Q and pressing them at the same time will cause your poison to be invisible and leave a thinner stream of poison.

Sivir:
-Shield important spells, not easy ones.

Skarner:
-While ulting someone, at the last second you can switch directions and go the opposite way you have been dragging them, cause you to essentially switch places with them, dragging them an extra 2-3 teemo lengths.

Swain:
-Slow them to make W easier to hit.
-You still get healed through Zhonyas if activated while in Raven form.

Syndra:
-More balls more damage.
-Throwing buffs will apply either a slow or a mana refund with cooldown.

Talon:
-E->auto attack->Q for max burst when fighting.

Taric:
-Your E does more damage the closer you are to the enemy.

-Thresh:
-Your lantern has a ring around it that indicates how much time is left before it expires.
-If the enemy is engaging, try throwing your lantern backwards and fake that your jungler is coming in, they may run off.

Tristana:
-You can flash mid W and still apply the slow and damage.
-If you Ult before you dfg, the dfg can reach the target faster.

Twisted Fate:
-Blue->Red->Gold

Twitch:
-Position well for best use of ult.
-Ult can hit both nexus turrets at once.
-Invisible recall by pressing B during the initial stealth activation, but will fail when pressed after you are stealthed.

Udyr:
-http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=scyl2rTHhdw

Vayne:
-Tumbling against a wall, meaning you are at the wall before you tumble, will reset your auto attack.

Viktor:
-Get used to his E.
-Control ult.

Vladimir:
-You can pool->zhonyas->pool for a long time of untargetable.

Volibear:
-Your W is an execute, lower health they are the more damage it does.

Warwick:
-Turn E off when you are trying to sneak up on a low health lane.

Wukong:
-You can press S to stop your movements and make the enemy think you have used W.

Xerath:
-Use This For fastest stun activation.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zMN_cTQVZ-c

Xin Zhao:
-Your ult does 15% of the enemies current health, meaning it is more effective to use it earlier in a fight.

Ziggs:
-Your E gives you vision.
-Always auto attack when your passive is up.

Zyra:
-You can cast your Q or E and then place seeds before the spells detonate and still create plants.





Note: i dident write those tips and tricks i got it from a post from reddit but i wanted to share this with u guys :)
Damn bro. 10/5 for effort
maal

Ceph23 wrote:

SoG Tava wrote:

SPOILER
Some Tips and Tricks :


Aatrox:
-It's easier to land Q if you slow with E first.
-Only have Blood Thirst active while jungling if below 50%
-His ult gives extra range, use it if you're lacking just a bit of movement speed to catch up.

Ahri:
-Her W's count as single target spells, applying the full slow from Rylais and Spellvamp.
-Use her ult to re-direct her Q.
-Charm Flash Trick

Akali:
-Use shroud to over a wall to give vision and escape to a camp.
-Do NOT all in as soon as you hit 6, your ult needs to gain charges.
-Base at 6, buy, have 3 ult stacks back in lane and kill.
-When laning, land a Q on your enemy, then wait for it to go off cooldown before you engage, so you can proc 2 Q's in a hurry

Alistar:
-To WQ combo, use w and basically as soon as you see yourself start to move you press Q.
-At level 16 your ult gives you 90 free AD, that's almost a fully stacked Bloodthirster. Don't forget to auto attack in fights.

Amumu:
-Dont take a skill untill the buff spawns, If you are going to be able to get your blue start W, if not start E.
-Smite to clear way for your Q.

Anivia:
-You can cast E and then ult beneath them to still get the damage bonus, because E has a travel time.
-By pressing Q again after you release the ball you can make it explode when you want.
-Your wall does 1 true damage, meaning it will cancel enemy recalls and cause you to take turret agro.
-If you cast your wall almost on top of someone who is standing directly next to an environmental wall, it "pinches" them and leaves them essentially stunned for the duration of the wall.

Annie:
-Start with W and charge a stun up in fountain, 1 less than required if you are leashing and feeling generous to spend mana on the leash.
-When you have your stun active you will have a whirl around you which can give it away, also Annie laughs when her stun is available.
-Control Tibbers with R, controlling him while backing will not stop your back.
-You can cast E while your Q is in mid-flight and you have 3 charges to prime the stun and land it when your Q hits.

Ashe:
-When ulting consider the flow of the map and the choice of pathing the enemy has to take.

Blitz:
-You can stand behind enemy caster minions where the enemy thinks they are safe, then ult to clear them and pull.
-You miss 100% of the shots you don't take, but don't spam and lose presence.

Caitlyn:
-You can E and then immediately Q to slow and then hit your target with the Q.

Cassiopeia:
-The best time to ult is as they cast a spell or auto attack, because they have just committed to an action that has them facing in your direction.

Cho'Gath:
-He gets free health, so you are going to want armor/mr to support that.
-You can turn his E off so you don't take agro while pushing down turrets.
-A red circle under the enemy means that your feast does enough damage to kill them.

Diana:
-You can Q and then ult to a target before the Q lands, and if It does your ult will be refreshed.

Draven:
-Axes will go the direction you are facing when they HIT the target, not when they leave your hand.

Elise:
-You can gank lanes from behind their turret using rappel to avoid the turret shot without losing health.
-Your Cocoon gives vision.
-If you cast W in human form then switch to spider form and Q, the spider will follow.

Evelynn:
-Use W after the slow is applied to you, not when you see it being cast.

Fiddlesticks:
-Think about the potential bounce targets when using E, if you wait just a second longer will it only bounce between your target and a minion?
-For the love of god make sure your ult is going before you Zhonya's.

Fiora:
-Her ult applies on hit effects such as red buff and Tiamat passive.
If you have a lot of lifesteal, ult when you are low on health, rather than to initiate.

Fizz:
-Your E radius is larger if you don't press it again, and it applies a slow.
-You can place wards mid E, such as Playful over wall->Ward->Trickster back over wall.
-You don't need to use your ult to initiate, try Q'ing and then making a point blank shot.

Galio:
-You're an unstoppable rock in the lane, but you need to gank and help the team.

Gangplank:
-Your Q is an auto attack reset, with Hydra you are very dangerous in melee range.
-Your passive may not seem like much, but with your E it helps assure they can't escape just by walking.

Gragas:
-Consider maxing W second instead of E.
-Don't just drop the ult, take a moment and think of who you can displace.
-With scaling AP runes, a Ring start, and maxing Q, you can clear enemy caster minions at level 8 with one Q.

Graves:
-You can use your W and Q on a bush, and if you gain a passive stack, guess what? There's an enemy in there.

Hecarim:
-Ult into a crowd and use E to push one enemy back to your team.

Heimerdinger:
-Immediately make your way to the lane and start to set up turrets.
-Your ganks are pretty good with the upgraded E.
-General rule for what to upgrade in fights; AOE: Turret. Single Target: W. Need CC: E.

Irelia:
-Level 9 is your highlight, your true dmg doesn't scale so this is the most it's gonna do. Try to teamfight.
-Use your ult to whittle down caster minions and then jump to them to escape or engage.
-Whether your E slows or stuns is based off of health PERCENTAGE not the number of health they have compared to yours.

Janna:
-A well timed flash ult can push an entire team out of dragon/Baron pit.

Jarvan:
-Your passive is based of current health, so when jungling auto attack, THEN cast E, for the most damage.
-You can lower your ult by pressing R again.

Jax:
-Don't Q just as your E is wearing off and miss your stun, that's embarrassing.
-Keep a ward or trinket handy to place over a wall in order to Q to and escape.

Jayce:
-Alternate between Hammer and Cannon form to get around quickly.
-In Cannon form Q'ing and then placing E infront of it makes it less predictable.

Jinx:
-In teamfights when people start flying all over, sometimes its best to not waste your time casting W to just end up hitting a Malphite, or worse, him hitting you.

Karma:
-Mantra'd W restores 20% of MISSING health, making it a good bait tool and more effective at lower health.

Karthus:
-You have time to cast 3 Q's and Ult while dead. Or 2 Q's, a Wall, and ult.

Katarina:
-keep a ward or trinket handy in order for escapes.
-Your ult only targets 3 people.

Kayle:
-Your ult prevents people from taking damage, it is not the same as Tryndameres ult. Use it to prevent damage, not death.

Kennen:
-Your ult still ticks while in Zhonyas
-The bigger group you are ulting the more spread out your damage will be.

Kha'Zix:
-If you walk into a bush and don't gain your passive, there's vision.
-With Ravenous Hydra you can E onto an enemy hiding in his caster minions, Activate Hydra, to clear the minions and get an easy Isolated Q.

Leblanc:
-You are briefly invisible when your passive is activated, use this time to get away.
-Always control your clone.
-Mimicked W is good for a grouped teamfight, while mimicked Q is good for a quick assassination.
-Your Ult has no mana cost.

Lee Sin:
-Your second cast of W gives you spell vamp, which means you gain health from all your spells, including smite.
-You can Q a camp over a wall and activate it again, mid air you can smite the monster, ending up having your Q deal more damage.
-Always QRQ for the best damage combination.
-If you have a ravenous hydra don't E->Activate, if you E->auto attack->Activate->Auto attack you will gain a lot of energy back and do a lot of dmg very quickly.
-It's easier to W mid Q if you don't have your screen locked/Holding Space.
-Use the enemy to escape, by landing a Q and kicking him where you want to go, the enemy is essentially a free taxi.

Leona:
-Your E goes to the last person it makes contact with, be careful.
-You can kill wards at level one with AA->Q->AA

Lissandra:
-You can juke opponents by casting E in one direction and walking another, If they chase you, activate E again, if they go after your E, just walk away.
-Your Q only slows the first person that it comes in contact with.

Lucian:
-Position yourself correctly before you ult, think about where they have to run to.
-Your E breaks slows, so use it after you are slowed, not when you see the animation.

Lulu:
-You can E a minion and then Q, using it as a proxy for extra range.

Lux:
-Use your E to slow the enemy to make your Q easier to hit.
-Your Q is able of hitting two enemies.
-Cast your shield in the direction you are running, it will return to you quicker, thus having the next application of the shield sooner.

Malphite:
-Remember Q steals movement speed.
-E does dmg, and it is also an attack speed slow.

Malzahar:
-Voidlings have a priority order of Ult>E>Anything else.
-You can cast ignite while ulting, but make sure you are in range, Ult range>Ignite Range.
-Don't ult the guy with the QSS.

Maokai:
-before you W, remember that you get dragged with them, W'ing a LeBlanc may not be the best idea.

Mordekaiser:
- Q is an auto attack reset

Morgana:
-Black shield will stop any CC, but only Magical damage.

Nautilus:
-Your ult will travel knocking up all people in its way, so don't always use it on the person in the front of the pack.

Miss Fortune:
-Q procs W's effect. It will apply the mark if you W mid-Q. Also, Q will bounce to a target in the bush, even if you don't have vision on them.

Nocturne:
-Your W will block a spell from Baron, giving you an attack speed buff.
-Sometimes its worth it to use your ult even if you have no plan of following up, just to help a teammate escape.
-If you're caught out look to an enemy that you can ult to and escape.

Orianna:
-Your E gives Mr and Armor along with a shield.
-Try starting with E in lane and auto attack trade at level 1.
-Make use of the dmg E does when it travels.
-Some lanes you want to max W some you want to max Q.
-Wait for the perfect shockwave, but not too long.
-W will speed anyone on your team up and slow any enemy down.
-You can place your ball inside of a wall and out of enemy vision, when they come near you can move it out of the wall for a surprise attack, they won't see the ball coming towards them.

Pantheon:
-Supposedly you can move during his ult, after you fly into the sky, but before you land.

Poppy:
-If you're in a teamfight ult someone that doesn't do much dmg or cc. But if you're hunting someone down ult them for the extra bonus.
Ult->DFG->EQ is oneshot.

Quinn:
-Max E instead of Q, and use it in trades and to interrupt actions.
-In teamfights don't consider your ult a damage boost, think of it is a means to reposition, escape, or chase.

Renekton:
-W is AA reset; Hydra/Tiamat active cancels W animation.

Riven:
-Auto attack between each Q.
-E after activating ult to cancel the animation and skip to kicking ass.

Rumble:
-You can hit the danger zone at level 1 by spamming Q.
-Sit just out of turret range with Q over your minions to make the enemy pay for last hitting.

Shaco:
-Don't underestimate passive.
-Quickly pressing B and then canceling while stealthed will break the stealth and start the cooldown on Q.
-You're R is a disjoint, you basically cease to exist for about half a second when you cast it. You can use this to dodge any skill.
-Don't use your E at the start of a gank, it applies a slow effect on hit first, then used to execute or if the enemy is out of range.

Shen:
-Flashing mid taunt is a good way to surprise enemies and get extra range on your taunt.

Shyvana:
-Don't W before you ult, it's less effective.
-Flashing mid ult will still cause knockback.

Singed:
-You can flip people over walls.
-Binding two keys to your Q and pressing them at the same time will cause your poison to be invisible and leave a thinner stream of poison.

Sivir:
-Shield important spells, not easy ones.

Skarner:
-While ulting someone, at the last second you can switch directions and go the opposite way you have been dragging them, cause you to essentially switch places with them, dragging them an extra 2-3 teemo lengths.

Swain:
-Slow them to make W easier to hit.
-You still get healed through Zhonyas if activated while in Raven form.

Syndra:
-More balls more damage.
-Throwing buffs will apply either a slow or a mana refund with cooldown.

Talon:
-E->auto attack->Q for max burst when fighting.

Taric:
-Your E does more damage the closer you are to the enemy.

-Thresh:
-Your lantern has a ring around it that indicates how much time is left before it expires.
-If the enemy is engaging, try throwing your lantern backwards and fake that your jungler is coming in, they may run off.

Tristana:
-You can flash mid W and still apply the slow and damage.
-If you Ult before you dfg, the dfg can reach the target faster.

Twisted Fate:
-Blue->Red->Gold

Twitch:
-Position well for best use of ult.
-Ult can hit both nexus turrets at once.
-Invisible recall by pressing B during the initial stealth activation, but will fail when pressed after you are stealthed.

Udyr:
-http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=scyl2rTHhdw

Vayne:
-Tumbling against a wall, meaning you are at the wall before you tumble, will reset your auto attack.

Viktor:
-Get used to his E.
-Control ult.

Vladimir:
-You can pool->zhonyas->pool for a long time of untargetable.

Volibear:
-Your W is an execute, lower health they are the more damage it does.

Warwick:
-Turn E off when you are trying to sneak up on a low health lane.

Wukong:
-You can press S to stop your movements and make the enemy think you have used W.

Xerath:
-Use This For fastest stun activation.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zMN_cTQVZ-c

Xin Zhao:
-Your ult does 15% of the enemies current health, meaning it is more effective to use it earlier in a fight.

Ziggs:
-Your E gives you vision.
-Always auto attack when your passive is up.

Zyra:
-You can cast your Q or E and then place seeds before the spells detonate and still create plants.





Note: i dident write those tips and tricks i got it from a post from reddit but i wanted to share this with u guys :)
Damn bro. 10/5 for effort
he didnt write it

but thank you for copying it over here to those who do not view reddit
Hika

SoG Tava wrote:

SPOILER
Some Tips and Tricks :


Aatrox:
-It's easier to land Q if you slow with E first.
-Only have Blood Thirst active while jungling if below 50%
-His ult gives extra range, use it if you're lacking just a bit of movement speed to catch up.

Ahri:
-Her W's count as single target spells, applying the full slow from Rylais and Spellvamp.
-Use her ult to re-direct her Q.
-Charm Flash Trick

Akali:
-Use shroud to over a wall to give vision and escape to a camp.
-Do NOT all in as soon as you hit 6, your ult needs to gain charges.
-Base at 6, buy, have 3 ult stacks back in lane and kill.
-When laning, land a Q on your enemy, then wait for it to go off cooldown before you engage, so you can proc 2 Q's in a hurry

Alistar:
-To WQ combo, use w and basically as soon as you see yourself start to move you press Q.
-At level 16 your ult gives you 90 free AD, that's almost a fully stacked Bloodthirster. Don't forget to auto attack in fights.

Amumu:
-Dont take a skill untill the buff spawns, If you are going to be able to get your blue start W, if not start E.
-Smite to clear way for your Q.

Anivia:
-You can cast E and then ult beneath them to still get the damage bonus, because E has a travel time.
-By pressing Q again after you release the ball you can make it explode when you want.
-Your wall does 1 true damage, meaning it will cancel enemy recalls and cause you to take turret agro.
-If you cast your wall almost on top of someone who is standing directly next to an environmental wall, it "pinches" them and leaves them essentially stunned for the duration of the wall.

Annie:
-Start with W and charge a stun up in fountain, 1 less than required if you are leashing and feeling generous to spend mana on the leash.
-When you have your stun active you will have a whirl around you which can give it away, also Annie laughs when her stun is available.
-Control Tibbers with R, controlling him while backing will not stop your back.
-You can cast E while your Q is in mid-flight and you have 3 charges to prime the stun and land it when your Q hits.

Ashe:
-When ulting consider the flow of the map and the choice of pathing the enemy has to take.

Blitz:
-You can stand behind enemy caster minions where the enemy thinks they are safe, then ult to clear them and pull.
-You miss 100% of the shots you don't take, but don't spam and lose presence.

Caitlyn:
-You can E and then immediately Q to slow and then hit your target with the Q.

Cassiopeia:
-The best time to ult is as they cast a spell or auto attack, because they have just committed to an action that has them facing in your direction.

Cho'Gath:
-He gets free health, so you are going to want armor/mr to support that.
-You can turn his E off so you don't take agro while pushing down turrets.
-A red circle under the enemy means that your feast does enough damage to kill them.

Diana:
-You can Q and then ult to a target before the Q lands, and if It does your ult will be refreshed.

Draven:
-Axes will go the direction you are facing when they HIT the target, not when they leave your hand.

Elise:
-You can gank lanes from behind their turret using rappel to avoid the turret shot without losing health.
-Your Cocoon gives vision.
-If you cast W in human form then switch to spider form and Q, the spider will follow.

Evelynn:
-Use W after the slow is applied to you, not when you see it being cast.

Fiddlesticks:
-Think about the potential bounce targets when using E, if you wait just a second longer will it only bounce between your target and a minion?
-For the love of god make sure your ult is going before you Zhonya's.

Fiora:
-Her ult applies on hit effects such as red buff and Tiamat passive.
If you have a lot of lifesteal, ult when you are low on health, rather than to initiate.

Fizz:
-Your E radius is larger if you don't press it again, and it applies a slow.
-You can place wards mid E, such as Playful over wall->Ward->Trickster back over wall.
-You don't need to use your ult to initiate, try Q'ing and then making a point blank shot.

Galio:
-You're an unstoppable rock in the lane, but you need to gank and help the team.

Gangplank:
-Your Q is an auto attack reset, with Hydra you are very dangerous in melee range.
-Your passive may not seem like much, but with your E it helps assure they can't escape just by walking.

Gragas:
-Consider maxing W second instead of E.
-Don't just drop the ult, take a moment and think of who you can displace.
-With scaling AP runes, a Ring start, and maxing Q, you can clear enemy caster minions at level 8 with one Q.

Graves:
-You can use your W and Q on a bush, and if you gain a passive stack, guess what? There's an enemy in there.

Hecarim:
-Ult into a crowd and use E to push one enemy back to your team.

Heimerdinger:
-Immediately make your way to the lane and start to set up turrets.
-Your ganks are pretty good with the upgraded E.
-General rule for what to upgrade in fights; AOE: Turret. Single Target: W. Need CC: E.

Irelia:
-Level 9 is your highlight, your true dmg doesn't scale so this is the most it's gonna do. Try to teamfight.
-Use your ult to whittle down caster minions and then jump to them to escape or engage.
-Whether your E slows or stuns is based off of health PERCENTAGE not the number of health they have compared to yours.

Janna:
-A well timed flash ult can push an entire team out of dragon/Baron pit.

Jarvan:
-Your passive is based of current health, so when jungling auto attack, THEN cast E, for the most damage.
-You can lower your ult by pressing R again.

Jax:
-Don't Q just as your E is wearing off and miss your stun, that's embarrassing.
-Keep a ward or trinket handy to place over a wall in order to Q to and escape.

Jayce:
-Alternate between Hammer and Cannon form to get around quickly.
-In Cannon form Q'ing and then placing E infront of it makes it less predictable.

Jinx:
-In teamfights when people start flying all over, sometimes its best to not waste your time casting W to just end up hitting a Malphite, or worse, him hitting you.

Karma:
-Mantra'd W restores 20% of MISSING health, making it a good bait tool and more effective at lower health.

Karthus:
-You have time to cast 3 Q's and Ult while dead. Or 2 Q's, a Wall, and ult.

Katarina:
-keep a ward or trinket handy in order for escapes.
-Your ult only targets 3 people.

Kayle:
-Your ult prevents people from taking damage, it is not the same as Tryndameres ult. Use it to prevent damage, not death.

Kennen:
-Your ult still ticks while in Zhonyas
-The bigger group you are ulting the more spread out your damage will be.

Kha'Zix:
-If you walk into a bush and don't gain your passive, there's vision.
-With Ravenous Hydra you can E onto an enemy hiding in his caster minions, Activate Hydra, to clear the minions and get an easy Isolated Q.

Leblanc:
-You are briefly invisible when your passive is activated, use this time to get away.
-Always control your clone.
-Mimicked W is good for a grouped teamfight, while mimicked Q is good for a quick assassination.
-Your Ult has no mana cost.

Lee Sin:
-Your second cast of W gives you spell vamp, which means you gain health from all your spells, including smite.
-You can Q a camp over a wall and activate it again, mid air you can smite the monster, ending up having your Q deal more damage.
-Always QRQ for the best damage combination.
-If you have a ravenous hydra don't E->Activate, if you E->auto attack->Activate->Auto attack you will gain a lot of energy back and do a lot of dmg very quickly.
-It's easier to W mid Q if you don't have your screen locked/Holding Space.
-Use the enemy to escape, by landing a Q and kicking him where you want to go, the enemy is essentially a free taxi.

Leona:
-Your E goes to the last person it makes contact with, be careful.
-You can kill wards at level one with AA->Q->AA

Lissandra:
-You can juke opponents by casting E in one direction and walking another, If they chase you, activate E again, if they go after your E, just walk away.
-Your Q only slows the first person that it comes in contact with.

Lucian:
-Position yourself correctly before you ult, think about where they have to run to.
-Your E breaks slows, so use it after you are slowed, not when you see the animation.

Lulu:
-You can E a minion and then Q, using it as a proxy for extra range.

Lux:
-Use your E to slow the enemy to make your Q easier to hit.
-Your Q is able of hitting two enemies.
-Cast your shield in the direction you are running, it will return to you quicker, thus having the next application of the shield sooner.

Malphite:
-Remember Q steals movement speed.
-E does dmg, and it is also an attack speed slow.

Malzahar:
-Voidlings have a priority order of Ult>E>Anything else.
-You can cast ignite while ulting, but make sure you are in range, Ult range>Ignite Range.
-Don't ult the guy with the QSS.

Maokai:
-before you W, remember that you get dragged with them, W'ing a LeBlanc may not be the best idea.

Mordekaiser:
- Q is an auto attack reset

Morgana:
-Black shield will stop any CC, but only Magical damage.

Nautilus:
-Your ult will travel knocking up all people in its way, so don't always use it on the person in the front of the pack.

Miss Fortune:
-Q procs W's effect. It will apply the mark if you W mid-Q. Also, Q will bounce to a target in the bush, even if you don't have vision on them.

Nocturne:
-Your W will block a spell from Baron, giving you an attack speed buff.
-Sometimes its worth it to use your ult even if you have no plan of following up, just to help a teammate escape.
-If you're caught out look to an enemy that you can ult to and escape.

Orianna:
-Your E gives Mr and Armor along with a shield.
-Try starting with E in lane and auto attack trade at level 1.
-Make use of the dmg E does when it travels.
-Some lanes you want to max W some you want to max Q.
-Wait for the perfect shockwave, but not too long.
-W will speed anyone on your team up and slow any enemy down.
-You can place your ball inside of a wall and out of enemy vision, when they come near you can move it out of the wall for a surprise attack, they won't see the ball coming towards them.

Pantheon:
-Supposedly you can move during his ult, after you fly into the sky, but before you land.

Poppy:
-If you're in a teamfight ult someone that doesn't do much dmg or cc. But if you're hunting someone down ult them for the extra bonus.
Ult->DFG->EQ is oneshot.

Quinn:
-Max E instead of Q, and use it in trades and to interrupt actions.
-In teamfights don't consider your ult a damage boost, think of it is a means to reposition, escape, or chase.

Renekton:
-W is AA reset; Hydra/Tiamat active cancels W animation.

Riven:
-Auto attack between each Q.
-E after activating ult to cancel the animation and skip to kicking ass.

Rumble:
-You can hit the danger zone at level 1 by spamming Q.
-Sit just out of turret range with Q over your minions to make the enemy pay for last hitting.

Shaco:
-Don't underestimate passive.
-Quickly pressing B and then canceling while stealthed will break the stealth and start the cooldown on Q.
-You're R is a disjoint, you basically cease to exist for about half a second when you cast it. You can use this to dodge any skill.
-Don't use your E at the start of a gank, it applies a slow effect on hit first, then used to execute or if the enemy is out of range.

Shen:
-Flashing mid taunt is a good way to surprise enemies and get extra range on your taunt.

Shyvana:
-Don't W before you ult, it's less effective.
-Flashing mid ult will still cause knockback.

Singed:
-You can flip people over walls.
-Binding two keys to your Q and pressing them at the same time will cause your poison to be invisible and leave a thinner stream of poison.

Sivir:
-Shield important spells, not easy ones.

Skarner:
-While ulting someone, at the last second you can switch directions and go the opposite way you have been dragging them, cause you to essentially switch places with them, dragging them an extra 2-3 teemo lengths.

Swain:
-Slow them to make W easier to hit.
-You still get healed through Zhonyas if activated while in Raven form.

Syndra:
-More balls more damage.
-Throwing buffs will apply either a slow or a mana refund with cooldown.

Talon:
-E->auto attack->Q for max burst when fighting.

Taric:
-Your E does more damage the closer you are to the enemy.

-Thresh:
-Your lantern has a ring around it that indicates how much time is left before it expires.
-If the enemy is engaging, try throwing your lantern backwards and fake that your jungler is coming in, they may run off.

Tristana:
-You can flash mid W and still apply the slow and damage.
-If you Ult before you dfg, the dfg can reach the target faster.

Twisted Fate:
-Blue->Red->Gold

Twitch:
-Position well for best use of ult.
-Ult can hit both nexus turrets at once.
-Invisible recall by pressing B during the initial stealth activation, but will fail when pressed after you are stealthed.

Udyr:
-http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=scyl2rTHhdw

Vayne:
-Tumbling against a wall, meaning you are at the wall before you tumble, will reset your auto attack.

Viktor:
-Get used to his E.
-Control ult.

Vladimir:
-You can pool->zhonyas->pool for a long time of untargetable.

Volibear:
-Your W is an execute, lower health they are the more damage it does.

Warwick:
-Turn E off when you are trying to sneak up on a low health lane.

Wukong:
-You can press S to stop your movements and make the enemy think you have used W.

Xerath:
-Use This For fastest stun activation.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zMN_cTQVZ-c

Xin Zhao:
-Your ult does 15% of the enemies current health, meaning it is more effective to use it earlier in a fight.

Ziggs:
-Your E gives you vision.
-Always auto attack when your passive is up.

Zyra:
-You can cast your Q or E and then place seeds before the spells detonate and still create plants.





Note: i dident write those tips and tricks i got it from a post from reddit but i wanted to share this with u guys :)
I learned more things than I would have possibly ever learned in school in one day.
Kanye West

SoG Tava wrote:

SPOILER
Some Tips and Tricks :


Aatrox:
-It's easier to land Q if you slow with E first.
-Only have Blood Thirst active while jungling if below 50%
-His ult gives extra range, use it if you're lacking just a bit of movement speed to catch up.

Ahri:
-Her W's count as single target spells, applying the full slow from Rylais and Spellvamp.
-Use her ult to re-direct her Q.
-Charm Flash Trick

Akali:
-Use shroud to over a wall to give vision and escape to a camp.
-Do NOT all in as soon as you hit 6, your ult needs to gain charges.
-Base at 6, buy, have 3 ult stacks back in lane and kill.
-When laning, land a Q on your enemy, then wait for it to go off cooldown before you engage, so you can proc 2 Q's in a hurry

Alistar:
-To WQ combo, use w and basically as soon as you see yourself start to move you press Q.
-At level 16 your ult gives you 90 free AD, that's almost a fully stacked Bloodthirster. Don't forget to auto attack in fights.

Amumu:
-Dont take a skill untill the buff spawns, If you are going to be able to get your blue start W, if not start E.
-Smite to clear way for your Q.

Anivia:
-You can cast E and then ult beneath them to still get the damage bonus, because E has a travel time.
-By pressing Q again after you release the ball you can make it explode when you want.
-Your wall does 1 true damage, meaning it will cancel enemy recalls and cause you to take turret agro.
-If you cast your wall almost on top of someone who is standing directly next to an environmental wall, it "pinches" them and leaves them essentially stunned for the duration of the wall.

Annie:
-Start with W and charge a stun up in fountain, 1 less than required if you are leashing and feeling generous to spend mana on the leash.
-When you have your stun active you will have a whirl around you which can give it away, also Annie laughs when her stun is available.
-Control Tibbers with R, controlling him while backing will not stop your back.
-You can cast E while your Q is in mid-flight and you have 3 charges to prime the stun and land it when your Q hits.

Ashe:
-When ulting consider the flow of the map and the choice of pathing the enemy has to take.

Blitz:
-You can stand behind enemy caster minions where the enemy thinks they are safe, then ult to clear them and pull.
-You miss 100% of the shots you don't take, but don't spam and lose presence.

Caitlyn:
-You can E and then immediately Q to slow and then hit your target with the Q.

Cassiopeia:
-The best time to ult is as they cast a spell or auto attack, because they have just committed to an action that has them facing in your direction.

Cho'Gath:
-He gets free health, so you are going to want armor/mr to support that.
-You can turn his E off so you don't take agro while pushing down turrets.
-A red circle under the enemy means that your feast does enough damage to kill them.

Diana:
-You can Q and then ult to a target before the Q lands, and if It does your ult will be refreshed.

Draven:
-Axes will go the direction you are facing when they HIT the target, not when they leave your hand.

Elise:
-You can gank lanes from behind their turret using rappel to avoid the turret shot without losing health.
-Your Cocoon gives vision.
-If you cast W in human form then switch to spider form and Q, the spider will follow.

Evelynn:
-Use W after the slow is applied to you, not when you see it being cast.

Fiddlesticks:
-Think about the potential bounce targets when using E, if you wait just a second longer will it only bounce between your target and a minion?
-For the love of god make sure your ult is going before you Zhonya's.

Fiora:
-Her ult applies on hit effects such as red buff and Tiamat passive.
If you have a lot of lifesteal, ult when you are low on health, rather than to initiate.

Fizz:
-Your E radius is larger if you don't press it again, and it applies a slow.
-You can place wards mid E, such as Playful over wall->Ward->Trickster back over wall.
-You don't need to use your ult to initiate, try Q'ing and then making a point blank shot.

Galio:
-You're an unstoppable rock in the lane, but you need to gank and help the team.

Gangplank:
-Your Q is an auto attack reset, with Hydra you are very dangerous in melee range.
-Your passive may not seem like much, but with your E it helps assure they can't escape just by walking.

Gragas:
-Consider maxing W second instead of E.
-Don't just drop the ult, take a moment and think of who you can displace.
-With scaling AP runes, a Ring start, and maxing Q, you can clear enemy caster minions at level 8 with one Q.

Graves:
-You can use your W and Q on a bush, and if you gain a passive stack, guess what? There's an enemy in there.

Hecarim:
-Ult into a crowd and use E to push one enemy back to your team.

Heimerdinger:
-Immediately make your way to the lane and start to set up turrets.
-Your ganks are pretty good with the upgraded E.
-General rule for what to upgrade in fights; AOE: Turret. Single Target: W. Need CC: E.

Irelia:
-Level 9 is your highlight, your true dmg doesn't scale so this is the most it's gonna do. Try to teamfight.
-Use your ult to whittle down caster minions and then jump to them to escape or engage.
-Whether your E slows or stuns is based off of health PERCENTAGE not the number of health they have compared to yours.

Janna:
-A well timed flash ult can push an entire team out of dragon/Baron pit.

Jarvan:
-Your passive is based of current health, so when jungling auto attack, THEN cast E, for the most damage.
-You can lower your ult by pressing R again.

Jax:
-Don't Q just as your E is wearing off and miss your stun, that's embarrassing.
-Keep a ward or trinket handy to place over a wall in order to Q to and escape.

Jayce:
-Alternate between Hammer and Cannon form to get around quickly.
-In Cannon form Q'ing and then placing E infront of it makes it less predictable.

Jinx:
-In teamfights when people start flying all over, sometimes its best to not waste your time casting W to just end up hitting a Malphite, or worse, him hitting you.

Karma:
-Mantra'd W restores 20% of MISSING health, making it a good bait tool and more effective at lower health.

Karthus:
-You have time to cast 3 Q's and Ult while dead. Or 2 Q's, a Wall, and ult.

Katarina:
-keep a ward or trinket handy in order for escapes.
-Your ult only targets 3 people.

Kayle:
-Your ult prevents people from taking damage, it is not the same as Tryndameres ult. Use it to prevent damage, not death.

Kennen:
-Your ult still ticks while in Zhonyas
-The bigger group you are ulting the more spread out your damage will be.

Kha'Zix:
-If you walk into a bush and don't gain your passive, there's vision.
-With Ravenous Hydra you can E onto an enemy hiding in his caster minions, Activate Hydra, to clear the minions and get an easy Isolated Q.

Leblanc:
-You are briefly invisible when your passive is activated, use this time to get away.
-Always control your clone.
-Mimicked W is good for a grouped teamfight, while mimicked Q is good for a quick assassination.
-Your Ult has no mana cost.

Lee Sin:
-Your second cast of W gives you spell vamp, which means you gain health from all your spells, including smite.
-You can Q a camp over a wall and activate it again, mid air you can smite the monster, ending up having your Q deal more damage.
-Always QRQ for the best damage combination.
-If you have a ravenous hydra don't E->Activate, if you E->auto attack->Activate->Auto attack you will gain a lot of energy back and do a lot of dmg very quickly.
-It's easier to W mid Q if you don't have your screen locked/Holding Space.
-Use the enemy to escape, by landing a Q and kicking him where you want to go, the enemy is essentially a free taxi.

Leona:
-Your E goes to the last person it makes contact with, be careful.
-You can kill wards at level one with AA->Q->AA

Lissandra:
-You can juke opponents by casting E in one direction and walking another, If they chase you, activate E again, if they go after your E, just walk away.
-Your Q only slows the first person that it comes in contact with.

Lucian:
-Position yourself correctly before you ult, think about where they have to run to.
-Your E breaks slows, so use it after you are slowed, not when you see the animation.

Lulu:
-You can E a minion and then Q, using it as a proxy for extra range.

Lux:
-Use your E to slow the enemy to make your Q easier to hit.
-Your Q is able of hitting two enemies.
-Cast your shield in the direction you are running, it will return to you quicker, thus having the next application of the shield sooner.

Malphite:
-Remember Q steals movement speed.
-E does dmg, and it is also an attack speed slow.

Malzahar:
-Voidlings have a priority order of Ult>E>Anything else.
-You can cast ignite while ulting, but make sure you are in range, Ult range>Ignite Range.
-Don't ult the guy with the QSS.

Maokai:
-before you W, remember that you get dragged with them, W'ing a LeBlanc may not be the best idea.

Mordekaiser:
- Q is an auto attack reset

Morgana:
-Black shield will stop any CC, but only Magical damage.

Nautilus:
-Your ult will travel knocking up all people in its way, so don't always use it on the person in the front of the pack.

Miss Fortune:
-Q procs W's effect. It will apply the mark if you W mid-Q. Also, Q will bounce to a target in the bush, even if you don't have vision on them.

Nocturne:
-Your W will block a spell from Baron, giving you an attack speed buff.
-Sometimes its worth it to use your ult even if you have no plan of following up, just to help a teammate escape.
-If you're caught out look to an enemy that you can ult to and escape.

Orianna:
-Your E gives Mr and Armor along with a shield.
-Try starting with E in lane and auto attack trade at level 1.
-Make use of the dmg E does when it travels.
-Some lanes you want to max W some you want to max Q.
-Wait for the perfect shockwave, but not too long.
-W will speed anyone on your team up and slow any enemy down.
-You can place your ball inside of a wall and out of enemy vision, when they come near you can move it out of the wall for a surprise attack, they won't see the ball coming towards them.

Pantheon:
-Supposedly you can move during his ult, after you fly into the sky, but before you land.

Poppy:
-If you're in a teamfight ult someone that doesn't do much dmg or cc. But if you're hunting someone down ult them for the extra bonus.
Ult->DFG->EQ is oneshot.

Quinn:
-Max E instead of Q, and use it in trades and to interrupt actions.
-In teamfights don't consider your ult a damage boost, think of it is a means to reposition, escape, or chase.

Renekton:
-W is AA reset; Hydra/Tiamat active cancels W animation.

Riven:
-Auto attack between each Q.
-E after activating ult to cancel the animation and skip to kicking ass.

Rumble:
-You can hit the danger zone at level 1 by spamming Q.
-Sit just out of turret range with Q over your minions to make the enemy pay for last hitting.

Shaco:
-Don't underestimate passive.
-Quickly pressing B and then canceling while stealthed will break the stealth and start the cooldown on Q.
-You're R is a disjoint, you basically cease to exist for about half a second when you cast it. You can use this to dodge any skill.
-Don't use your E at the start of a gank, it applies a slow effect on hit first, then used to execute or if the enemy is out of range.

Shen:
-Flashing mid taunt is a good way to surprise enemies and get extra range on your taunt.

Shyvana:
-Don't W before you ult, it's less effective.
-Flashing mid ult will still cause knockback.

Singed:
-You can flip people over walls.
-Binding two keys to your Q and pressing them at the same time will cause your poison to be invisible and leave a thinner stream of poison.

Sivir:
-Shield important spells, not easy ones.

Skarner:
-While ulting someone, at the last second you can switch directions and go the opposite way you have been dragging them, cause you to essentially switch places with them, dragging them an extra 2-3 teemo lengths.

Swain:
-Slow them to make W easier to hit.
-You still get healed through Zhonyas if activated while in Raven form.

Syndra:
-More balls more damage.
-Throwing buffs will apply either a slow or a mana refund with cooldown.

Talon:
-E->auto attack->Q for max burst when fighting.

Taric:
-Your E does more damage the closer you are to the enemy.

-Thresh:
-Your lantern has a ring around it that indicates how much time is left before it expires.
-If the enemy is engaging, try throwing your lantern backwards and fake that your jungler is coming in, they may run off.

Tristana:
-You can flash mid W and still apply the slow and damage.
-If you Ult before you dfg, the dfg can reach the target faster.

Twisted Fate:
-Blue->Red->Gold

Twitch:
-Position well for best use of ult.
-Ult can hit both nexus turrets at once.
-Invisible recall by pressing B during the initial stealth activation, but will fail when pressed after you are stealthed.

Udyr:
-http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=scyl2rTHhdw

Vayne:
-Tumbling against a wall, meaning you are at the wall before you tumble, will reset your auto attack.

Viktor:
-Get used to his E.
-Control ult.

Vladimir:
-You can pool->zhonyas->pool for a long time of untargetable.

Volibear:
-Your W is an execute, lower health they are the more damage it does.

Warwick:
-Turn E off when you are trying to sneak up on a low health lane.

Wukong:
-You can press S to stop your movements and make the enemy think you have used W.

Xerath:
-Use This For fastest stun activation.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zMN_cTQVZ-c

Xin Zhao:
-Your ult does 15% of the enemies current health, meaning it is more effective to use it earlier in a fight.

Ziggs:
-Your E gives you vision.
-Always auto attack when your passive is up.

Zyra:
-You can cast your Q or E and then place seeds before the spells detonate and still create plants.





Note: i dident write those tips and tricks i got it from a post from reddit but i wanted to share this with u guys :)
Good for new players but 99% of this stuff is common sense or really vague
Blaziken


Welcome to Shaco's shose shop.

Lulu is so gud.
maal


i like bananananana
Sapphiire_old_1

Blaziken wrote:



Welcome to Shaco's shose shop.

Lulu is so gud.
Well she kinda get buffed this patch , we will see here more often again
Justykanna
Penta kill with Kayle, lol. I actually only killed four in the final engagement at the enemy nexus, but then Warwick resurrected and went straight in. I got the kill and it gave me a penta. xD
Also, is something up with the servers to give three straight 'Loss Prevented's?

Blaziken

Justykanna wrote:

Penta kill with Kayle, lol. I actually only killed four in the final engagement at the enemy nexus, but then Warwick resurrected and went straight in. I got the kill and it gave me a penta. xD
Also, is something up with the servers to give three straight 'Loss Prevented's?

Players QQ about how not enough 'Loss Prevented' were given when EUW lags all the time. So now they give it all the time.
Agnes

This meta is stupid. Annie/Brand bot, they had a hard time, Mundo became a fear factor, and Katarina just went out of control, along with Yasuo. The game went so out of control, I got careless with the items I bought.

*Disclaimer: I am not on Shiirn's account; he took the screenshot for me. My summoner name is Meliin.
Miyu
Lately there is to much annie support
Bakano
annie + caitlyn = god range harass

and annie is really strong if the player knows how to use her
Sapphiire_old_1

Bakano wrote:

annie + caitlyn = god range harass

and annie is really strong if the player knows how to use her
indeed but thats not only with annie :p every champ is strong if u know how to use here/him
Ceph23
Anybody here play a good malzahar? It's sad that not much people play him.
ItsukiKun
*Reading patch notes*

Nuuuuu why did they nerf taric's fabulous burst?? And I don't even play him as a support XD
Sapphiire_old_1

Ceph23 wrote:

Anybody here play a good malzahar? It's sad that not much people play him.
Mmmh its true he is a bit underrated if u wanna learn him i would advice u to take a look at some guides on lolking ore yt
Vulf

Ceph23 wrote:

Anybody here play a good malzahar? It's sad that not much people play him.
Probably because his ult and passive have been buggy since his release. Also QSS screws him over pretty hard.

The meta right now is pretty bad to be honest.

Top = Tanky resourceless junk, because everything else that was picked here has been nerfed too much. Why play stuff that has mana when resouceless champs do the same thing but better? The powercreep in this game gets worse every patch I swear.

Mid = Pretty much the same with some older mids making a comeback due to ambient gold increase and passive play not punishing you hard anymore. Hurray for 40-50 minute turtle strats again.

Jungle = Same utility tanky bruisers/tanks.

Adc = Same except like 3 are viable in competitive play. Probably less since Lucian nerf.

Support = Second AP carry at this point because why play a traditional support over a utility mage that gets gold? Taric and Leona are still really strong though.

Role counter triangle is still broken so tanky DPS is running rampant again.
BrokenArrow
Malzahar is a piece of shit.
Sapphiire_old_1

BrokenArrow wrote:

Malzahar is a piece of shit.

Shots are fired .
Nofool
Malzahar's dance is cool
Kanye West
they should really allow malzahar to move while he ults, and make his ult, WW ult and Skarner ult non-cleansable just like Vi's ult
Sapphiire_old_1

Kanye West wrote:

they should really allow malzahar to move while he ults, and make his ult, WW ult and Skarner ult non-cleansable just like Vi's ult
Actually i fully agree with u that would make him alot more viable
Ceph23
Well at least he's got the moves.

tyrael6192

Ceph23 wrote:

Anybody here play a good malzahar? It's sad that not much people play him.
because he's boring as hell
Ceph23
Yeah but I like to play unconventional champs. It throws unprepared people off their game.
Vulf

Kanye West wrote:

they should really allow malzahar to move while he ults, and make his ult, WW ult and Skarner ult non-cleansable just like Vi's ult
He shouldn't be able to cancel it so easily for one. I've cut so many ults too short because I decided to click during the duration.

Riot likes to throw the words "counter play" around a lot so you can guess why suppression will never be uncleansable, but yet we have knock ups and knock backs that are on quite a few champions non ult abilities with a much much lower CD that is uncleansable and unreducable by tenacity. Suppression the best CC in the game my ass.

QSS should get nerfed to 120 seconds from 90 seconds and you can lower the price of the item by 300 gold.

Another big issue (and I mean a huge issue I have personally with suppression) is queued up abilities are prioritized over it. Singed fling, Voli flip, Udyr stun, Cho silence Irelia stun etc.. will cancel suppression because they were queued up before it. Suppression should completely cancel all abilities the enemy has in queue (not put them on CD). There is tons of counter play to this CC and I'm not entirely sure why Riot defends the whole lack of counter play to it but allows knock ups to stay the way they are.

Edit: The only decent thing Suppression has going for it is the target can't use summoner spells which can make some good dragon/baron steals with Warwick and Skarner, but who jungles those anymore? :)
tyrael6192

Ceph23 wrote:

Yeah but I like to play unconventional champs. It throws unprepared people off their game.
to each his own
BrokenArrow


So many LeBlanc's since Bjerger played her once yesterday..
Hika

BrokenArrow wrote:

Malzahar is a piece of shit.
That ult. Too good.
much nerf many ult wow cc such suppress

many drain
Magicphoenix
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Kanye West

Vulf wrote:

Kanye West wrote:

they should really allow malzahar to move while he ults, and make his ult, WW ult and Skarner ult non-cleansable just like Vi's ult
He shouldn't be able to cancel it so easily for one. I've cut so many ults too short because I decided to click during the duration.

Riot likes to throw the words "counter play" around a lot so you can guess why suppression will never be uncleansable, but yet we have knock ups and knock backs that are on quite a few champions non ult abilities with a much much lower CD that is uncleansable and unreducable by tenacity. Suppression the best CC in the game my ass.

QSS should get nerfed to 120 seconds from 90 seconds and you can lower the price of the item by 300 gold.

Another big issue (and I mean a huge issue I have personally with suppression) is queued up abilities are prioritized over it. Singed fling, Voli flip, Udyr stun, Cho silence Irelia stun etc.. will cancel suppression because they were queued up before it. Suppression should completely cancel all abilities the enemy has in queue (not put them on CD). There is tons of counter play to this CC and I'm not entirely sure why Riot defends the whole lack of counter play to it but allows knock ups to stay the way they are.

Edit: The only decent thing Suppression has going for it is the target can't use summoner spells which can make some good dragon/baron steals with Warwick and Skarner, but who jungles those anymore? :)
I think you can outplay most knockups, but the OP ones are the targeted ones like Vi and Nautilus, more so with Vi because he gapcloses regardless of whether you create distance or not
Vulf
So in other words you are saying they are balanced because they are skill shots? Yeah... lets not even go there because there is so much wrong with that statement.
tyrael6192
no he's saying they're still susceptible to the aforementioned "counter play" as opposed to vi's ult etc, so there's still a distinction to be made in the sense that you cannot liken alistars pulverize to assault and battery
Vulf
Targeted ult based knock ups aren't really the issue here because of longer CD's which has limitations. Naut and Vi ults can be completely stopped with Zhonya's (it does have counter play though limited). Every suppression ability is ult based, single targeted and only on 4 champions while "Airborne" is on over a dozen champions through non ults that affect multiple targets.

My conclusion to this is Riot gave up on suppression a long time ago because they can't code it for shit since Malzahar and Warwick ults have been buggy since I started playing back in 2010. Hence why knockups are being spammed on newer champions.

Before it is brought up simply saying X ability or champion is balanced because they rely on landing skill shots does not make them immune to certain issues. Cause with that Logic Nidalee spears are fun and exciting.
tyrael6192
but vulf nidalee spears are so fun and exciting D:

imo juking a spear at a clutch moment, or indeed landing a ridiculous one, is much more fun and conducive to mechanical outplays than just pressing r and watching both champs sit there for 3 seconds
Vulf
Well enjoy her while it last because she will get what is coming to her eventually. After reading some Riot post on her it pretty much sums up to her being a stupid champion.

Anyways on a more unrelated note. Have some more support Warwick. :)



Game was a stomp because their bot lane became useless once we hit level 6. Also their Orianna was extremely mad.
Ceph23
^ a perfect example of why we should keep our cool when playing
DaddyCoolVipper
The League community can be really disgusting sometimes. Why do people throw reports around so easily? They're trying to get each other banned!
Sapphiire_old_1

DaddyCoolVipper wrote:

The League community can be really disgusting sometimes. Why do people throw reports around so easily? They're trying to get each other banned!

Indeed ! especially when u play with premades they some times decides to randomly report u , played with premades yesterday they decided to report me for negatif attidude while i wasent nagtif at all en i even got a warning --'
tyrael6192

Vulf wrote:

Well enjoy her while it last because she will get what is coming to her eventually. After reading some Riot post on her it pretty much sums up to her being a stupid champion.
I don't actually play her, i'm just making the general case that skillshots are more fun than suppression
Slith
speaking of which, Yasuo's hitbox of his first skill is really small. i'm ok with the range being a sword and all but damn it's just hard to hit. and jungle yasuo really sucks unless the enemies are really overpushed to get that 3rd stack of tempest. really annoying to play in the jungle
Blaziken


Facing platinum players (Vi) in normals suck.
I really hope it doesn't happen again as I didn't know how to tackle the situation.
Justykanna

Blaziken wrote:

Facing platinum players (Vi) in normals suck.
I really hope it doesn't happen again as I didn't know how to tackle the situation.
I know that feeling. >_>
psKirika

Blaziken wrote:



Facing platinum players (Vi) in normals suck.
I really hope it doesn't happen again as I didn't know how to tackle the situation.
Just play them like anyone else. They might be better, but in the end we're just humans and definitively not "mystic immortal godly creatures". Plus, take it positively, you'll usually learn more if you face good players.
Sapphiire_old_1
played with a diamond 1 player on normals yesterday i thought oh fun free win , but no he picked teemo and played as ward --'
Blaziken
I started the game thinking "oh, the guy probably paid for the account. They aint shi-" 5 man invade. Stole red. Given first blood.

Not sure if want.
Justykanna

Blaziken wrote:

I started the game thinking "oh, the guy probably paid for the account. They aint shi-" 5 man invade. Stole red. Given first blood.

Not sure if want.
I hate invading so much. Biggest annoyance whenever I'm jungling, ever. -_-

Also, yeah, putting a plat against a bunch of bronzes (which three of your teammates were) makes no sense. I don't care if the MMRs are balanced, there's such thing as common sense. =/
Vulf

DaddyCoolVipper wrote:

The League community can be really disgusting sometimes. Why do people throw reports around so easily? They're trying to get each other banned!
I rarely report people, but when people on the enemy team start spamming all chat with "report X for verbal harassment" it makes me facepalm because how am I supposed to know that they are verbally abusing them? That Orianna in that game was an awful person. That Caitlyn could have been too, but she never said anything in all chat so I didn't report her.


tyrael6192 wrote:

I don't actually play her, i'm just making the general case that skillshots are more fun than suppression
Doesn't matter if it's more fun or not because at the same time it's just as frustrating if not more for others. You got to take into consideration of whats better for the game. Broken over powered champions are fun for people too and that is definitely not an excuse for them to stay that way.

In the end I would much rather deal with a point and click ability that has a 60 second CD than a piece of shit spear or bind being spammed at me constantly. You can't dodge forever. Skill shots can be just as toxic to the game as point and clicks can.
Justykanna

Vulf wrote:

I rarely report people, but when people on the enemy team start spamming all chat with "report X for verbal harassment" it makes me facepalm because how am I supposed to know that they are verbally abusing them? That Orianna in that game was an awful person. That Caitlyn could have been too, but she never said anything in all chat so I didn't report her.
Heh, I just keep all chat off. Most of what I used to see in all chat is nonsense anyway.
Sapphiire_old_1

Justykanna wrote:

Heh, I just keep all chat off. Most of what I used to see in all chat is nonsense anyway.
Agreed
Blaziken

Justykanna wrote:

Vulf wrote:

I rarely report people, but when people on the enemy team start spamming all chat with "report X for verbal harassment" it makes me facepalm because how am I supposed to know that they are verbally abusing them? That Orianna in that game was an awful person. That Caitlyn could have been too, but she never said anything in all chat so I didn't report her.
Heh, I just keep all chat off. Most of what I used to see in all chat is nonsense anyway.
You can do that?
Sapphiire_old_1

Blaziken wrote:

You can do that?
Of course just take a quick look at the options and u will find it
Vulf
They changed it to be off by default over a year ago. I guess they changed it again.
Sapphiire_old_1

Vulf wrote:

They changed it to be off by default over a year ago. I guess they changed it again.
actually they dident change it its still off by default
Lyubey
I just found out how annoying Teemo can be... *Screams*
Justykanna

Blaziken wrote:

You can do that?
I'll screenshot it next time I'm on.

Edit:
There ya go. Options -> Interface -> Second section from the bottom: "Show [All] Chat".


Vulf wrote:

They changed it to be off by default over a year ago. I guess they changed it again.
Since I've been playing - which was October of last year - it was defaulted to be off.

Louis13 wrote:

I just found out how annoying Teemo can be... *Screams*
He's always been annoying. Auto attacks you once and a quarter of your health goes away. It's dumb.
Vulf
The amount of well deserved nerfs on the PBE atm makes me so happy.

I like how they are basically slowly reverting Nasus back to where he was before they massively buffed him.
Justykanna

Vulf wrote:

I like how they are basically slowly reverting Nasus back to where he was before they massively buffed him.
When did they buff him? They nerf his passive again or something?

As a top laner, I'm to be hearing that though. Impossible to make trade with this dude unless you wait until he ooms... -_- And even then...
Vulf
Aside from some large indirect buffs through items etc.. he got a pretty large buff around when season 3 started. Lowering the mana cost on his Q to 20 at all levels, reduced mana cost on his ult along with increased AA range and 100 extra cast range on his abilities, and lets not forget the double damage bonus he gets from killing champions, large minions and monsters from Q.

If nasus is going oom in lane he is bad. You would have to be spamming your E off CD for that to happen. He is a pretty brain dead easy champion to play atm. Good early game, great mid, and infinite scaling into late game. There is no stopping him really since everything that beat him to the point of uselessness in lane got nerfed too hard.

PBE for recent nerfs. http://www.reignofgaming.net/
Justykanna

Vulf wrote:

If nasus is going oom in lane he is bad. You would have to be spamming your E off CD for that to happen. He is a pretty brain dead easy champion to play atm. Good early game, great mid, and infinite scaling into late game. There is no stopping him really since everything that beat him to the point of uselessness in lane got nerfed too hard.
I was told letting him oom is the only way to win trades. Just passing along words, I dunno if it's actually true.
I actually find him difficult to use. All you have to do is be aggressive whenever he farms and you melt. So I stopped using him since that's how I kept getting fought. Except I do the same thing and die. -_-
Vulf
If you are dying early as nasus you are doing something very very wrong. There is only 2 top laners that can really push him out of lane at the level 2 mark and that is Riven and Jax, but the problem is they can't keep doing that because all nasus has to do is get resist and he is immovable due to his passive. He is pretty much the same as the old Warwick, but doesn't have to rely on mana as much and scales infinitely into late game. Oh and he can farm easily under his turret so not even shoving him in is an option.

All this current nerf really does is make him more kitable late game which is not the direction they need to go with this champion. His early game is the issue.
tyrael6192

Vulf wrote:

Doesn't matter if it's more fun or not because at the same time it's just as frustrating if not more for others. You got to take into consideration of whats better for the game. Broken over powered champions are fun for people too and that is definitely not an excuse for them to stay that way.
games are made to have fun right? they aren't purely a battleground for the demonstration of mechanical skill. in fact, if they were, point and click suppression wouldn't exist. it has no place because it doesn't require or showcase mechanical skill to either use or avoid. at the same time i would argue that being ulted by warwick is more frustrating than having to dodge a spear because yes, you can dodge a spear and yes, you can do it consistently. using the term "forever" is null because yeah, occasionally you might get hit by a spear; but if you couldn't then it would be a null skill with 0 fun value for the enemy. still, it isn't an aimbot, and if you play the lane with your brain turned on you can avoid 100% of her spear damage.

the balance for frustration caused versus fun created is on my mind too, don't you worry; but you seem to have forgotten that getting suppressed while the enemy team pounds on you is one of the most frustrating things in the game, and something with 0 counterplay if you're behind and can't afford qss or you're not at that point of the game yet or maybe you have it but it's on cooldown. this being the case, the little counterplay that there is is very circumstantial and relies on factors outside of your own mechanical skill. your team has to set itself back just short of 8k gold in order to ensure that everyone has a means of avoiding his ult, and that's not fun nor satisfying
Vulf
Supression has no counterplay when you are behind? Are you joking? A breeze of the wind cancels warwick ult and then he dies because he is in the middle of 5 people. Even if it gets to the point a Warwick 1v5's your team you deserved to lose because you would have had to play like a dumb fuck for him to get to that level. Warwick has no early game at all thats his counter play. Even with his ult being simple it still requires knowledge of the game to use or else it would get you and your team killed for improper use.

Most of what you stated is purely opinion based, because I can say pretty much the same about skill shots.

Edit: If you watched any Korean tournies you would see that one landed Nidalee spear pretty much decided the team fight. Yep that's totally fun to play against. :)
tyrael6192
note that i'm not specifically advocating the nidalee spear in its current state with its current numbers. i do think it's ridiculous and on the off chance that you land one accidentally and significantly alter the outcome of a teamfight, it isn't fair or fun. but i still maintain the same argument regarding the mechanics of such skillshots in general.

also the majority of the playerbase doesn't have to face aimbot koreans but that's a minor and slightly racist point.
Vulf
I get what you are saying and I agree with some of it.

Comparing skill shots to a point in click in terms of out play potential and whats more fun to watch it's obvious skill shots will come out on top and that's fine. I'm just saying they can't be immune to balance decisions because they don't land 100% of the time. That just encourages some pretty heavy powercreep down the road.
Sapphiire_old_1
Wickd explaining why u should build trinity force on malphite :

First of all let's go over the usefullness of Trinity Force's stats.
30 Ability power.

In my opinion this is not very usefull due to Malphite's low AP Ratios which is also why you see AP Malphites go for a lot of magic penetration.

+30 Attack Damage
I don't see how this isn't usefull on Malphite with him having one of the best AD steriods in the entire game. +62% AD from his W is insane.

+30% attack speed
I don't see how that's any worse than on for example Irelia and she's known for buying Trinity Force. +30% attack speed combined with a 62% AD steriod yes please!

+10% Crit chanceThis is probably one of the best stats on him due to having the highest Attack Damage in the game from Trinity force alone.

+Health, Mana and movement speed are always good stats unless you're a manaless champion so let's not talk too much about those.
Trinity Force Passive.

So yes you are totally right that it's not the greatest passive in the game if you spam your abilities all at once, but who says you need to do that? I believe you can easily use r e w and then q to get 2 sheen procs which is still huge in a teamfight.
Overall I would say Trinity Force is extremely good on Malphite, but the main problem is his weak laning phase and that the components building into Trinity Force aren't that strong, but once you finish it he's a beast.
Justykanna

Vulf wrote:

If you are dying early as nasus you are doing something very very wrong.
Probably. There's a reason I stopped using him. He's not exactly my top champion of choice anyway.
I'd be nice if the only solution to making trades wasn't 'wait for him to go oom' though... Like you said, he shouldn't ooming.
And I don't play Jax or Riven. xD
Ceph23
On to the next underused champ. Skarner.
I actually like playing this guy. Sure the ult has a lot of limitations (like having to walk straight through the enemy team to get that high-priority target) and he hardly does any damage, this guy can just punish a person who isn't paying attention.
I'm pretty sure there is someone out there who can play this guy well. 'cause I sure as hell can't.
Bakano

Ceph23 wrote:

On to the next underused champ. Skarner.
I actually like playing this guy. Sure the ult has a lot of limitations (like having to walk straight through the enemy team to get that high-priority target) and he hardly does any damage, this guy can just punish a person who isn't paying attention.
I'm pretty sure there is someone out there who can play this guy well. 'cause I sure as hell can't.
I cry every time I play Akali and then there's a Skarner pick.

I no longer have a fun time dashing to enemies and killing them. Instead, I get ult'd and killed.

:(
Sapphiire_old_1

Ceph23 wrote:

On to the next underused champ. Skarner.
I actually like playing this guy. Sure the ult has a lot of limitations (like having to walk straight through the enemy team to get that high-priority target) and he hardly does any damage, this guy can just punish a person who isn't paying attention.
I'm pretty sure there is someone out there who can play this guy well. 'cause I sure as hell can't.

Skarner scales well off of nearly every stat in the game, and attack speed can be roughly translated to CDR for him as well. Is it more worthwhile to build full tank and CDR, so that you can spam your perma-slow all throughout a teamfight, or to build more of a tanky DPS role, with items like Wit's End and Iceborne Gauntlet to do good damage and still remain relatively tanky?
Skarner was used during season 2, but fell off steeply later, which most attribute to the nerf to his ult. The nerf was for the occasion where an enemy would blink or dash during the cast time of his ultimate, and instead of escaping they would be dragged right back into Skarner, and their blink would be on cooldown. Now that he is never used competitively, do you think reverting the nerf would bring him back?
With Skarner's rework revealed, more emphasis is being put on his E, becoming his new slow, while his attack speed buff has been moved onto his Q from his shield.
Ceph23

SoG Tava wrote:

Skarner scales well off of nearly every stat in the game, and attack speed can be roughly translated to CDR for him as well. Is it more worthwhile to build full tank and CDR, so that you can spam your perma-slow all throughout a teamfight, or to build more of a tanky DPS role, with items like Wit's End and Iceborne Gauntlet to do good damage and still remain relatively tanky?
Skarner was used during season 2, but fell off steeply later, which most attribute to the nerf to his ult. The nerf was for the occasion where an enemy would blink or dash during the cast time of his ultimate, and instead of escaping they would be dragged right back into Skarner, and their blink would be on cooldown. Now that he is never used competitively, do you think reverting the nerf would bring him back?
With Skarner's rework revealed, more emphasis is being put on his E, becoming his new slow, while his attack speed buff has been moved onto his Q from his shield.
I don't think reverting the nerf will bring him back. These new champs just offers up so much more than him. Though I do still find him enjoyable to play. And that's what really matters :D
Sapphiire_old_1

SoG Tava wrote:

I don't think reverting the nerf will bring him back
This what CloudTemlar says about skarner : From my point of view… Basically, if you ask me, I don’t care about anything else except this. If they just revert the nerf on his ultimate, I’ll immediately play him in tournaments. Those nerfs were rather too much. Yes, stats actually don’t have that big of a meaning.

Sure u can have your opinions but if a Korean Pro player say somthing about a champ u can be sure he is damn right
Vulf
Skarner is another good example of how stupid powercreep is in League.

I personally think he is fine how he is. The big problem is that he currently suffers from what jungle Warwick suffers from and that is the way the jungle mechanics have changed over time. He was good in season 2 because of how extremely fast he cleared the jungle and how potent his ganks were because you couldn't start wards and if you were slightly over extended you would either die from perma slow or burn a summoner.

Then season 3 jungle happened followed by Zac and Vi who do everything he wants to do.

Edit: They aren't going to bring back the whole ult flash mechanic because I'm pretty sure that was a bug to begin with and I find it very sad people were playing him only to abuse that mechanic. What they should have done was make skarners ult briefly root the target so they can't flash. This way the target isn't screwed out of a summoner because of some coding bug.
Ceph23
Damn it. Now I feel like playing skarner.
Sapphiire_old_1

Ceph23 wrote:

Damn it. Now I feel like playing skarner.
What are u waiting for ? :P
maal
wow do you guys think i want to read all this jesus fuck
BrokenArrow
Alright I'm officially gonna main Kha jungle. I thought I just had lucky games but it seems like I really am god after all.

Ceph23

BrokenArrow wrote:

Alright I'm officially gonna main Kha jungle. I thought I just had lucky games but it seems like I really am god after all.

I've never had a bad game as jugle kha'zix, I don'think enyone does, but I still do lose.
I think zix is one of those really amazing cahmpions to play. Also very enjoyable.
Heather
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Cyclohexane


help how do I carry
tyrael6192
what how did they even win that

???
/??????????
psKirika
long games are easy turned. By that time most of the champs have good gold, if any team is able to ace the other team, that's gg. Rumble probably got caught once or smth
Nofool
even fed, rumble won't make the difference with only 3 ap items :c (no raba), better catch vayne é_è and yeah lategame so everyone had enough stuff so one bad team fight and...
maal
dims where are you imma punch ur face
Miyu

Mr Color wrote:



help how do I carry
i tried qq
BrokenArrow
Oh hey duo jungle is actually a thing with premades
Pick a jungler who can make good use of blue buff, one who needs red buff and a midlaner without ressources
Split the jungle equally and make sure to invade as much as possible to make the enemy jungler have a bad time = even more farm
Add much ganks and very dragon/baron control
= Win 4v5 easily okay and that might also be because Riven is broken


maal
have ur botlane feed 30 kills to the enemy adc and jungler and the story would be entirely different
Miyu

maal wrote:

have ur botlane feed 30 kills to the enemy adc and jungler and the story would be entirely different
Indeed,not all games are good lol,not all players can do well @ solobot
BrokenArrow
Well in SoloQ people tend to push their lane when they have an advantage instead of freezing so it wasn't that much of a problem for Sivir to stay alive and farm under turret
she still went afk but it was ok, all the other lanes had an advantage at that point
Vulf
With the changes to ambient gold and early objectives it is a lot easier for the losing team to rubber band effect and win a game now. I doubt it will stay this way though because this encourages passive play/turtling and people don't want to watch that crap in high level tournaments. :(


Speaking of feeding bot lane. No one knows what to do against a Warwick support. Still winning games.
MF lagged out for about 5 mins, but it didn't matter since every time my ult was up we (me mostly) deleted sona and sivir couldn't do shit about that. Oh and their jungler camped the hell out of bottom hence why our top lane kat was 9/0.

Kanye West

tyrael6192 wrote:

what how did they even win that

???
/??????????
They probably got shitstomped in early and midgame but didn't lose too many objectives, then farmed+pressured the map, maybe got some picks and free objectives and got a lategame ace to end
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