indeed but thats not only with annie :p every champ is strong if u know how to use here/himBakano wrote:
annie + caitlyn = god range harass
and annie is really strong if the player knows how to use her
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Anybody here play a good malzahar? It's sad that not much people play him.
*Reading patch notes*
Nuuuuu why did they nerf taric's fabulous burst?? And I don't even play him as a support XD
Nuuuuu why did they nerf taric's fabulous burst?? And I don't even play him as a support XD
Mmmh its true he is a bit underrated if u wanna learn him i would advice u to take a look at some guides on lolking ore ytCeph23 wrote:
Anybody here play a good malzahar? It's sad that not much people play him.
Probably because his ult and passive have been buggy since his release. Also QSS screws him over pretty hard.Ceph23 wrote:
Anybody here play a good malzahar? It's sad that not much people play him.
The meta right now is pretty bad to be honest.
Top = Tanky resourceless junk, because everything else that was picked here has been nerfed too much. Why play stuff that has mana when resouceless champs do the same thing but better? The powercreep in this game gets worse every patch I swear.
Mid = Pretty much the same with some older mids making a comeback due to ambient gold increase and passive play not punishing you hard anymore. Hurray for 40-50 minute turtle strats again.
Jungle = Same utility tanky bruisers/tanks.
Adc = Same except like 3 are viable in competitive play. Probably less since Lucian nerf.
Support = Second AP carry at this point because why play a traditional support over a utility mage that gets gold? Taric and Leona are still really strong though.
Role counter triangle is still broken so tanky DPS is running rampant again.
Malzahar is a piece of shit.
BrokenArrow wrote:
Malzahar is a piece of shit.
Shots are fired .
Malzahar's dance is cool
they should really allow malzahar to move while he ults, and make his ult, WW ult and Skarner ult non-cleansable just like Vi's ult
Actually i fully agree with u that would make him alot more viableKanye West wrote:
they should really allow malzahar to move while he ults, and make his ult, WW ult and Skarner ult non-cleansable just like Vi's ult
because he's boring as hellCeph23 wrote:
Anybody here play a good malzahar? It's sad that not much people play him.
Yeah but I like to play unconventional champs. It throws unprepared people off their game.
He shouldn't be able to cancel it so easily for one. I've cut so many ults too short because I decided to click during the duration.Kanye West wrote:
they should really allow malzahar to move while he ults, and make his ult, WW ult and Skarner ult non-cleansable just like Vi's ult
Riot likes to throw the words "counter play" around a lot so you can guess why suppression will never be uncleansable, but yet we have knock ups and knock backs that are on quite a few champions non ult abilities with a much much lower CD that is uncleansable and unreducable by tenacity. Suppression the best CC in the game my ass.
QSS should get nerfed to 120 seconds from 90 seconds and you can lower the price of the item by 300 gold.
Another big issue (and I mean a huge issue I have personally with suppression) is queued up abilities are prioritized over it. Singed fling, Voli flip, Udyr stun, Cho silence Irelia stun etc.. will cancel suppression because they were queued up before it. Suppression should completely cancel all abilities the enemy has in queue (not put them on CD). There is tons of counter play to this CC and I'm not entirely sure why Riot defends the whole lack of counter play to it but allows knock ups to stay the way they are.
Edit: The only decent thing Suppression has going for it is the target can't use summoner spells which can make some good dragon/baron steals with Warwick and Skarner, but who jungles those anymore?
to each his ownCeph23 wrote:
Yeah but I like to play unconventional champs. It throws unprepared people off their game.
So many LeBlanc's since Bjerger played her once yesterday..
That ult. Too good.BrokenArrow wrote:
Malzahar is a piece of shit.
much nerf many ult wow cc such suppress
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I think you can outplay most knockups, but the OP ones are the targeted ones like Vi and Nautilus, more so with Vi because he gapcloses regardless of whether you create distance or notVulf wrote:
He shouldn't be able to cancel it so easily for one. I've cut so many ults too short because I decided to click during the duration.Kanye West wrote:
they should really allow malzahar to move while he ults, and make his ult, WW ult and Skarner ult non-cleansable just like Vi's ult
Riot likes to throw the words "counter play" around a lot so you can guess why suppression will never be uncleansable, but yet we have knock ups and knock backs that are on quite a few champions non ult abilities with a much much lower CD that is uncleansable and unreducable by tenacity. Suppression the best CC in the game my ass.
QSS should get nerfed to 120 seconds from 90 seconds and you can lower the price of the item by 300 gold.
Another big issue (and I mean a huge issue I have personally with suppression) is queued up abilities are prioritized over it. Singed fling, Voli flip, Udyr stun, Cho silence Irelia stun etc.. will cancel suppression because they were queued up before it. Suppression should completely cancel all abilities the enemy has in queue (not put them on CD). There is tons of counter play to this CC and I'm not entirely sure why Riot defends the whole lack of counter play to it but allows knock ups to stay the way they are.
Edit: The only decent thing Suppression has going for it is the target can't use summoner spells which can make some good dragon/baron steals with Warwick and Skarner, but who jungles those anymore?
So in other words you are saying they are balanced because they are skill shots? Yeah... lets not even go there because there is so much wrong with that statement.
no he's saying they're still susceptible to the aforementioned "counter play" as opposed to vi's ult etc, so there's still a distinction to be made in the sense that you cannot liken alistars pulverize to assault and battery
Targeted ult based knock ups aren't really the issue here because of longer CD's which has limitations. Naut and Vi ults can be completely stopped with Zhonya's (it does have counter play though limited). Every suppression ability is ult based, single targeted and only on 4 champions while "Airborne" is on over a dozen champions through non ults that affect multiple targets.
My conclusion to this is Riot gave up on suppression a long time ago because they can't code it for shit since Malzahar and Warwick ults have been buggy since I started playing back in 2010. Hence why knockups are being spammed on newer champions.
Before it is brought up simply saying X ability or champion is balanced because they rely on landing skill shots does not make them immune to certain issues. Cause with that Logic Nidalee spears are fun and exciting.
My conclusion to this is Riot gave up on suppression a long time ago because they can't code it for shit since Malzahar and Warwick ults have been buggy since I started playing back in 2010. Hence why knockups are being spammed on newer champions.
Before it is brought up simply saying X ability or champion is balanced because they rely on landing skill shots does not make them immune to certain issues. Cause with that Logic Nidalee spears are fun and exciting.
but vulf nidalee spears are so fun and exciting D:
imo juking a spear at a clutch moment, or indeed landing a ridiculous one, is much more fun and conducive to mechanical outplays than just pressing r and watching both champs sit there for 3 seconds
imo juking a spear at a clutch moment, or indeed landing a ridiculous one, is much more fun and conducive to mechanical outplays than just pressing r and watching both champs sit there for 3 seconds
Well enjoy her while it last because she will get what is coming to her eventually. After reading some Riot post on her it pretty much sums up to her being a stupid champion.
Anyways on a more unrelated note. Have some more support Warwick.
Game was a stomp because their bot lane became useless once we hit level 6. Also their Orianna was extremely mad.
Anyways on a more unrelated note. Have some more support Warwick.
Game was a stomp because their bot lane became useless once we hit level 6. Also their Orianna was extremely mad.
^ a perfect example of why we should keep our cool when playing
The League community can be really disgusting sometimes. Why do people throw reports around so easily? They're trying to get each other banned!
DaddyCoolVipper wrote:
The League community can be really disgusting sometimes. Why do people throw reports around so easily? They're trying to get each other banned!
Indeed ! especially when u play with premades they some times decides to randomly report u , played with premades yesterday they decided to report me for negatif attidude while i wasent nagtif at all en i even got a warning --'
I don't actually play her, i'm just making the general case that skillshots are more fun than suppressionVulf wrote:
Well enjoy her while it last because she will get what is coming to her eventually. After reading some Riot post on her it pretty much sums up to her being a stupid champion.
speaking of which, Yasuo's hitbox of his first skill is really small. i'm ok with the range being a sword and all but damn it's just hard to hit. and jungle yasuo really sucks unless the enemies are really overpushed to get that 3rd stack of tempest. really annoying to play in the jungle
Facing platinum players (Vi) in normals suck.
I really hope it doesn't happen again as I didn't know how to tackle the situation.
I know that feeling. >_>Blaziken wrote:
Facing platinum players (Vi) in normals suck.
I really hope it doesn't happen again as I didn't know how to tackle the situation.
Just play them like anyone else. They might be better, but in the end we're just humans and definitively not "mystic immortal godly creatures". Plus, take it positively, you'll usually learn more if you face good players.Blaziken wrote:
Facing platinum players (Vi) in normals suck.
I really hope it doesn't happen again as I didn't know how to tackle the situation.
played with a diamond 1 player on normals yesterday i thought oh fun free win , but no he picked teemo and played as ward --'
I started the game thinking "oh, the guy probably paid for the account. They aint shi-" 5 man invade. Stole red. Given first blood.
Not sure if want.
Not sure if want.
I hate invading so much. Biggest annoyance whenever I'm jungling, ever. -_-Blaziken wrote:
I started the game thinking "oh, the guy probably paid for the account. They aint shi-" 5 man invade. Stole red. Given first blood.
Not sure if want.
Also, yeah, putting a plat against a bunch of bronzes (which three of your teammates were) makes no sense. I don't care if the MMRs are balanced, there's such thing as common sense. =/
I rarely report people, but when people on the enemy team start spamming all chat with "report X for verbal harassment" it makes me facepalm because how am I supposed to know that they are verbally abusing them? That Orianna in that game was an awful person. That Caitlyn could have been too, but she never said anything in all chat so I didn't report her.DaddyCoolVipper wrote:
The League community can be really disgusting sometimes. Why do people throw reports around so easily? They're trying to get each other banned!
Doesn't matter if it's more fun or not because at the same time it's just as frustrating if not more for others. You got to take into consideration of whats better for the game. Broken over powered champions are fun for people too and that is definitely not an excuse for them to stay that way.tyrael6192 wrote:
I don't actually play her, i'm just making the general case that skillshots are more fun than suppression
In the end I would much rather deal with a point and click ability that has a 60 second CD than a piece of shit spear or bind being spammed at me constantly. You can't dodge forever. Skill shots can be just as toxic to the game as point and clicks can.
Heh, I just keep all chat off. Most of what I used to see in all chat is nonsense anyway.Vulf wrote:
I rarely report people, but when people on the enemy team start spamming all chat with "report X for verbal harassment" it makes me facepalm because how am I supposed to know that they are verbally abusing them? That Orianna in that game was an awful person. That Caitlyn could have been too, but she never said anything in all chat so I didn't report her.
AgreedJustykanna wrote:
Heh, I just keep all chat off. Most of what I used to see in all chat is nonsense anyway.
You can do that?Justykanna wrote:
Heh, I just keep all chat off. Most of what I used to see in all chat is nonsense anyway.Vulf wrote:
I rarely report people, but when people on the enemy team start spamming all chat with "report X for verbal harassment" it makes me facepalm because how am I supposed to know that they are verbally abusing them? That Orianna in that game was an awful person. That Caitlyn could have been too, but she never said anything in all chat so I didn't report her.
Of course just take a quick look at the options and u will find itBlaziken wrote:
You can do that?