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Chamelo
Oops, sorry Caligno :o
(I just notice that.)
Amianki
No worries, just be careful in the future.
Raging Bull
if the game still needs people in 2 days, put me in then. I'll probably not post a lot but at least enough to get game started I suppose.
fartownik
Yeap, please pieguy do the same :>
Sephibro
i prefer to wait a couple days more instead of having lurkers/people who don't post
fartownik
Well, there hasn't been many signups in past days. The Higurashi Mafia is coming to an end and if people from there would like to sign up here, they'd have done that already. Either ask some people personally or get pieguy here :P
pieguyn
as much as I'd love to /in I'm semi-vla until sometime next week due to having way too much school shit. at the very least, I can't join until the weekend. I'd rather an actual player join and be available as a replacement rather than waste a slot :cry:

someone make Salvage join
fartownik
someone make someone join
fartownik
Never seen a mafia game here that hasn't been filled with players for so long. How about some spam, Sakura?
Topic Starter
Sakura
I dont think that's a good idea, but if by next sunday it isn't filled im going to cancel it, it isnt fair that others cant start just because my game doesnt fill up.
pieguyn
hya

/in
Raging Bull
well as promised

/in
Topic Starter
Sakura
Game is full will randomize and send role PMs in an hour or so.
Topic Starter
Sakura
All role PMS are sent, confirm in thread
Game can start when 10/12 have confirmed
DakeDekaane
First in confirm.
Sephibro
confirm
Chamelo
Confirm
pieguyn
conf
Amianki
Posting in thread instead of via PM only because the game hasn't officially started yet.

/in as emergency replacement now that the situation has changed a little.

EDIT: Situation as in situation that I can't talk about without breaking rules somewhere.
NoHitter
Confirm
Raging Bull
Damnit Calingo.

also confirm
Tsukasa
firmin'
rEdo
confirming~
fartownik
conf
Irreversible
confirmaed~
Uni
Confirmed
Topic Starter
Sakura
Day 1 starts. Anyone that hasn't confirmed has 24 hours from this post to come into the thread.

Not Voting - Sephibro, CTs-Th, rEdo, Tsukasa, fartownik, DakeDekaane, Louis13, Irreversible, NoHitter, Cookie, pieguy1372, Raging Bull

With 13 votes in play, it takes 7 to lynch.

Deadline for hammer is December 7th 2013 12:57 GMT-5
fartownik
Yeaaap, at last.

Vote: Cookie
Sephibro
vote: fartownik
Uni
Vote: Tsukasa
DakeDekaane
Vote: Tsukasa
rEdo
stacking votes for lulz

Vote: Tsukasa
pieguyn
vote: Tsukass
fartownik
Getting out of RVS quickly.

Unvote
Vote: rEdo
pieguyn
farto what are you doing
you never try to force the end of RVS cause that's not how it works
vote: fartownik
inb4 farto + rEdo bus
fartownik
I didn't end it, you did along with rEdo.
pieguyn
that hardly counts as getting out of RVS
fartownik
2 players stacking their votes randomly? Obviously it's a try to end RVS.
pieguyn
so if rEdo tried to end RVS why are you voting him?

if RVS, this proves my point
if serious, that vote doesn't make any sense
fartownik
To get a reaction out of him? It's already past RVS for me when someone stacks a vote on an already voted player, and I don't really like to wait so long for it to end because it's boring.
fartownik
And obviously I won't get a true reaction from him right now because I said what I'm planning. I'm a good friend with rEdo and even such small detail as a RVS stack might mean something to me in the future :P
DakeDekaane
You never stack votes for lulz.
Glad I voted Tsukasa.
Unvote
Vote: rEdo


Discuss.
DakeDekaane
Also pieguy, why do you vote farto when he's clearly trying to put an end to RVS as quick as possible, we have plenty of time, but that's not reason to goof around.
rEdo

DakeDekaane wrote:

You never stack votes for lulz.
Glad I voted Tsukasa.
Why not? Voting the same person for no apparent reason is fun, these votes will not matter anything in the next bunch of posts >:(

I kinda dislike pieguy's reaction to farto's vote swap, though. That was just an action performed in order to push the game forward, yet he tries to revert it to him, huh.


also:

pieguy1372 wrote:

inb4 farto + rEdo bus
Why would you associate us at this point of the game?
rEdo
at least I'm not gonna blatanly sheep him just to piss him off, just like I did in previous games \:D/
pieguyn

DakeDekaane wrote:

Also pieguy, why do you vote farto when he's clearly trying to put an end to RVS as quick as possible, we have plenty of time, but that's not reason to goof around.
trying to force an end to RVS as soon as possible is very anti-town

RVS should end naturally, that is, when actual information comes out of it. forcing it is a bad bad idea

doing things during RVS that naturally make information come up is pro-town, but that's not what he did

rEdo wrote:

I kinda dislike pieguy's reaction to farto's vote swap, though. That was just an action performed in order to push the game forward, yet he tries to revert it to him, huh.
I see you still can't read me for shit. see: information mafia

rEdo wrote:

Why would you associate us at this point of the game?
scum
vote: rEdo
Topic Starter
Sakura
Vote Count 1.01
rEdo (3) - fartownik, DakeDekaane, pieguy1372
Tsukasa (2) - Cookie, rEdo
fartownik (1) - Sephibro

Not Voting - CTs-Th, Tsukasa, Louis13, Irreversible, NoHitter, Raging Bull

With 13 votes in play, it takes 7 to lynch.

Please let me know if there are any mistakes.
fartownik
There's no such thing as 'RVS ending unnaturally', it always ends naturally because you can always gather some information out of the circumstances. Just like you did now, how does that differ from a 'regular' (in your point of view) end of an RVS?

And yeah, rEdo is scum :)
pieguyn

fartownik wrote:

There's no such thing as 'RVS ending unnaturally', it always ends naturally because you can always gather some information out of the circumstances. Just like you did now, how does that differ from a 'regular' (in your point of view) end of an RVS?
disagree. I find that when people actively try to cut off RVS, the information gained becomes very limited and misleading. it seemed like you were trying to cut off RVS by just declaring "getting out of RVS quickly".
fartownik
I just stated that it ended already, because it did for me, jeez. There's ALWAYS some non-random motivation under stacked votes, thus it ended.

This discussion is pretty pointless.
pieguyn
seems like semantics I guess.

care to explain your scumread on rEdo?
fartownik
Nah, not yet.
Raging Bull
vote:pieguy

unvote

k there goes my RVS


Far as I know, RVS is usually nothing in the beginning because we just vote for the hell of it. pieguy, why are you voting for rEdo when you voted for Tsukasa too?
Irreversible
I feel like i'm waaay behind this game already..

Vote: CTs-Th
rEdo
Boo, I'm getting so much scumreads this early Q_Q

That's what I'm wondering about. he did the exact same thing as me, yet he said that I'm scum... should that mean that he's scum as well? Also, please respond to my question instead of that blunt accusation with no coverage. It's rather ignorant to call me out just because I can't follow/predict your process of thinking, hence my question >_>

Vote: pieguy
DakeDekaane
^scum pls

Actually, I'd like votes on pieguy.
Unvote
Vote: pieguy


We could basically spend all D1 in RVS without any sign of "ending naturally", better starting discussion as soon as possible, lefting very few spots for scum to play around, don't you think?
DakeDekaane
dat ninja
rEdo
hi
DakeDekaane
Also FoS on rEdo for not sheeping like he usually does.
Tsukasa
Wait nobody told me it started

God dammit I missed RVS
Tsukasa
So much scumness going on

There's pie who looks like he's buddying fart.
Or what appears like he wanted to blame fart but backfired

there's rEdo OMGUS

And there's Dake the super sheeper

Vote: Dake
pieguyn

DakeDekaane wrote:

We could basically spend all D1 in RVS without any sign of "ending naturally", better starting discussion as soon as possible, lefting very few spots for scum to play around, don't you think?
my point is that forcing discussion is bad. RVS works best if you don't force it too much, although some movement is required to get the game out of RVS. farto was claiming RVS was over with just a few votes, no reasons and more than half the players hadn't even posted yet. it seems way too preliminary

rEdo wrote:

Also, please respond to my question instead of that blunt accusation with no coverage.
why not? I figured there was a chance of farto voting his scumbuddy in the first serious vote of the game. tho you two being friends also explains it

nice attempt at discrediting though
Topic Starter
Sakura
Vote Count 1.02

rEdo (2) - fartownik, pieguy1372
pieguy1372 (2): rEdo, DakeDekaane
Tsukasa (1) - Cookie
fartownik (1) - Sephibro
CTs-Th (1): Irreversible
DakeDekaane (1): Tsukasa

Not Voting - CTs-Th, Louis13, NoHitter, Raging Bull

With 13 votes in play, it takes 7 to lynch.

Please let me know if you see any mistakes.
Chamelo
So fast...

Vote : NoHitter
DakeDekaane
Yay, a vote on me :)
I wasn't sheeping, but whatever, you should have a stronger reason.
Raging Bull

Raging Bull wrote:

pieguy, why are you voting for rEdo when you voted for Tsukasa too?

I found it rather weird how someone would just sheep to someone and then turn against him.
pieguyn

Raging Bull wrote:

pieguy, why are you voting for rEdo when you voted for Tsukasa too?
.............. are you fucking serious
pieguyn
Tsukasa was a RV

rEdo was a semi-serious vote

what the fuck are you trying to accomplish with that question? I don't see how anything you could be thinking of is a scumtell. 0.0
NoHitter
Actually guys, I've come to think that pressure votes are the best way to bring out information. Keep someone at L-2 and see how they react etc.

Also, FoS: Ono, Irre, CTs-Th
RVS has ended already, yet you guys still seemed to random vote someone.

@pieguy

pieguy wrote:

disagree. I find that when people actively try to cut off RVS, the information gained becomes very limited and misleading. it seemed like you were trying to cut off RVS by just declaring "getting out of RVS quickly".
I disagree with this statement. If RVS were to end "quickly" then the information you get is how it ended quickly.

Also what was the case behind rEdo? I didn't quite get it.
pieguyn
ono isn't even this game 0.0

NoHitter wrote:

I disagree with this statement. If RVS were to end "quickly" then the information you get is how it ended quickly.

Also what was the case behind rEdo? I didn't quite get it.
yeah, but just look at it. there was no information at all and farto was still saying RVS was over.

as for rEdo, just look at his ISO
NoHitter
Oh god Ono and Irre's avatars are so similar, my bad -_-
Chamelo

NoHitter wrote:

Also, FoS: Ono, Irre, CTs-Th
RVS has ended already, yet you guys still seemed to random vote someone.
:P

Unvote, then. But why did you mention this one? It just a random vote.
DakeDekaane
Because it was a random vote when people just started a discussion, like deviating the attention, which is scummy :P
Tsukasa

pieguy1372 wrote:

ono isn't even this game 0.0

NoHitter wrote:

I disagree with this statement. If RVS were to end "quickly" then the information you get is how it ended quickly.

Also what was the case behind rEdo? I didn't quite get it.
yeah, but just look at it. there was no information at all and farto was still saying RVS was over.
Much time on MS would make you think like pie

Heck

I would have voted fart

But considering in osu!mafia style, town is fart
Tsukasa
*fart is town

God dammit
pieguyn
I'm actually really interested in what people find different from osu!mafia to MS mafia
DakeDekaane

Tsukasa wrote:

town is fart
This made my day.
Topic Starter
Sakura
Vote Count 1.03

rEdo (2) - fartownik, pieguy1372
pieguy1372 (2): rEdo, DakeDekaane
Tsukasa (1) - Cookie
fartownik (1) - Sephibro
CTs-Th (1): Irreversible
DakeDekaane (1): Tsukasa

Not Voting - Louis13, NoHitter, Raging Bull, CTs-Th

With 13 votes in play, it takes 7 to lynch.

Please let me know if you see any mistakes.
Raging Bull

pieguy1372 wrote:

Tsukasa was a RV

rEdo was a semi-serious vote

what the fuck are you trying to accomplish with that question? I don't see how anything you could be thinking of is a scumtell. 0.0

Wow so unlike you to get so mad. The purpose of that question was toreaction test see why you voted for Tsukasa. It's hard to even say it is for RV when a shit ton of everyone voted for Tsukasa.
pieguyn

Raging Bull wrote:

Wow so unlike you to get so mad. The purpose of that question was toreaction test see why you voted for Tsukasa. It's hard to even say it is for RV when a shit ton of everyone voted for Tsukasa.
sry for confusion, what I mean is, it's an RV as a vote that is part of RVS, and my reason for voting him was that he had a wagon on him. I was trying to get something to happen, but all that happened was farto came in and declared "RVS is over".

how is it not obvious what the intent behind that vote was? Tsukasa hadn't even made a single post and he had 4 people voting him, a bunch of which (including me) jumped on there without saying anything and the other person even referenced vote stacking. as it is, this seems like a cheap way to throw blame on me. 0.0
Tsukasa
Gaise

Mistake Mafia

All over again

Let's hope it is, actually
Tsukasa

DakeDekaane wrote:

Yay, a vote on me :)
I wasn't sheeping, but whatever, you should have a stronger reason.

DakeDekaane wrote:

Vote: Tsukasa

DakeDekaane wrote:

^scum pls

Actually, I'd like votes on pieguy.
Unvote
Vote: pieguy


We could basically spend all D1 in RVS without any sign of "ending naturally", better starting discussion as soon as possible, lefting very few spots for scum to play around, don't you think?
Lol yeah not sheeping

haha... huh...

>w>
Tsukasa

DakeDekaane wrote:

You never stack votes for lulz.
Glad I voted Tsukasa.
Unvote
Vote: rEdo


Discuss.

rEdo wrote:

DakeDekaane wrote:

You never stack votes for lulz.
Glad I voted Tsukasa.
Why not? Voting the same person for no apparent reason is fun, these votes will not matter anything in the next bunch of posts >:(

I kinda dislike pieguy's reaction to farto's vote swap, though. That was just an action performed in order to push the game forward, yet he tries to revert it to him, huh.


also:

pieguy1372 wrote:

inb4 farto + rEdo bus
Why would you associate us at this point of the game?
From meta tells

rEdo wrote:

Boo, I'm getting so much scumreads this early Q_Q

That's what I'm wondering about. he did the exact same thing as me, yet he said that I'm scum... should that mean that he's scum as well? Also, please respond to my question instead of that blunt accusation with no coverage. It's rather ignorant to call me out just because I can't follow/predict your process of thinking, hence my question >_>

Vote: pieguy

DakeDekaane wrote:

^scum pls

Actually, I'd like votes on pieguy.
Unvote
Vote: pieguy


We could basically spend all D1 in RVS without any sign of "ending naturally", better starting discussion as soon as possible, lefting very few spots for scum to play around, don't you think?
To sheeping the person he called scum with meta

It's universal language for "Hi guys we're scum buddies"

Dake-rEdo scum buddies 2013
Raging Bull

pieguy1372 wrote:

Raging Bull wrote:

Wow so unlike you to get so mad. The purpose of that question was toreaction test see why you voted for Tsukasa. It's hard to even say it is for RV when a shit ton of everyone voted for Tsukasa.
sry for confusion, what I mean is, it's an RV as a vote that is part of RVS, and my reason for voting him was that he had a wagon on him. I was trying to get something to happen, but all that happened was farto came in and declared "RVS is over".

how is it not obvious what the intent behind that vote was? Tsukasa hadn't even made a single post and he had 4 people voting him, a bunch of which (including me) jumped on there without saying anything and the other person even referenced vote stacking. as it is, this seems like a cheap way to throw blame on me. 0.0

Everything I have suspicion on you, you always claim it as a cheap way to throw blame on you. If you do something suspicious to me, then you are suspicious. How I read your vote is more like to bangwagon on Tsukasa to get him since it looked like a favorable attempt. fart never even said RVS is over, he said it is getting out of RVS. Information is helpful when it is good, but when it's just voting someone for some random ass reason because thats how games like to start, it is not good information. Seems like a cheap way to throw the blame on him.

rEdo saying stacking for lulz seems stupid but doesn't exactly seem scummy intent at all.

Vote:pieguy
Chamelo

Raging Bull wrote:

How I read your vote is more like to bangwagon on Tsukasa to get him since it looked like a favorable attempt. fart never even said RVS is over, he said it is getting out of RVS. Information is helpful when it is good, but when it's just voting someone for some random ass reason because thats how games like to start, it is not good information. Seems like a cheap way to throw the blame on him.

rEdo saying stacking for lulz seems stupid but doesn't exactly seem scummy intent at all.
Agreed. I've check the time for each vote to Tsukasa. Each of them have a big time gap, which enough for every player to read each player's vote.
Given 00:00 to Cookie's vote.
00:30 -> Dake's vote.
00:50 -> rEdo's vote.
02:20 (VERY huge gap.) -> pieguy's vote.

From these times. 4 people vote Tsukasa 'by accident' is more likely invalid and seems impossible. 'An intent' to bandwagon on Tsukasa is more likely valid and possible.
Chamelo
Also, every vote mostly have a reason to. (Except random non-stack vote.)

Why did you 3 vote Tsukasa when Cookie already vote him/her? (Even you know it's a bandwagon)
Irreversible
NoHitter, it's called I was sleeping..
Unvote

fartownik, as I've seen in other games, there are often thoughts taken from the RVS. Your post kinda wanna lets me think that you wanna avoid that..
NoHitter
Since when was stacking votes in RVS bad again? If anything, the information from the pressure given to the one who got voted is beneficial.
Chamelo
Nope, I didn't say it's bad. But stacking more than 2 votes is looks like they're intent to bandwagon someone. (Or it's just for fun case, I don't know. But stacking vote make RVS ended in this game, that's why we're discussing this.)

This is possibly my last post tonight. I'm off to bed now, school tomorrow. : P
Topic Starter
Sakura
CalignoBot replaces Louis13 who did not pick his role PM, effective immediately.
Amianki
Hi.

I have to leave for work in a half hour and I'm working on other things for the moment, so it will most likely be tonight that I get an opportunity to make a post.

Also note that this week is hell week at work today, so don't expect too much consistent posting.
DakeDekaane
Tsukasa, if you read carefully the thread, there's a tiny post after the one with my vote

DakeDekaane wrote:

dat ninja
So I wasn't sheeping rEdo, this meaning your "Dake-rEdo scum buddies 2013" is invalid.
Topic Starter
Sakura
Vote Count 1.04

pieguy1372 (3): rEdo, DakeDekaane, Raging Bull
rEdo (2) - fartownik, pieguy1372
Tsukasa (1) - Cookie
fartownik (1) - Sephibro
DakeDekaane (1): Tsukasa

Not Voting - CalignoBot, NoHitter, CTs-Th, Irreversible

With 13 votes in play, it takes 7 to lynch.

Please let me know if you see any mistakes.
Sephibro
sorry for my inactivity so far, finally higurashi mafia is over :)
I'll read the thread tomorrow
Tsukasa

DakeDekaane wrote:

Tsukasa, if you read carefully the thread, there's a tiny post after the one with my vote

DakeDekaane wrote:

dat ninja
So I wasn't sheeping rEdo, this meaning your "Dake-rEdo scum buddies 2013" is invalid.
Do something that's not scummy

Then I might change my read.

Plus

It would help us more if you do something town, anyways.
Sephibro
there isn't much content to talk about for now. farto keeps doing useless things as usual, RB keeps keeping his vote until someone is at L-1, and Tsukasa keeps making me rofl

About your discussion around RVS: day1 is ALWAYS RVS, unless there is some role who can get confirmed, such as an Innocent Child. The information we get from d1 is the flip on a randomly lynched person and a VERY VERY volatile and unreliable wagon analisys


@sakura

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8. Irreversible
9. NoHitter
10. Cookie
11. pieguy1372
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Sephibro
tell me if there is any error in the ISOs
fartownik

Sephibro wrote:

farto keeps doing useless things as usual, RB keeps keeping his vote until someone is at L
fight me irl
Chamelo

Sephibro wrote:

About your discussion around RVS: day1 is ALWAYS RVS, unless there is some role who can get confirmed, such as an Innocent Child. The information we get from d1 is the flip on a randomly lynched person and a VERY VERY volatile and unreliable wagon analisys
The point is, nobody dare to RVS now. (Since farto announced that RVS was ended) Especially when 'somebody' keeps giving FoS to anybody who does the random vote.

And this one.

DakeDekaane wrote:

So I wasn't sheeping rEdo, this meaning your "Dake-rEdo scum buddies 2013" is invalid.
Possibly "***-rEdo" scum team A and "Dake-***" scum team B?
If not, prove it.
Chamelo
^^^ Possibly my last post tonight. (In case of you ask me some question and I didn't answer)

Off to bed now. See ya tomorrow.
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