Yeah, I got stuck in Bronze 1 too. Only getting 5LP / win sucks. >_>Otonashi07 wrote:
Tried to get Silver and failed. Forever Bronze I okay
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That feel. I usually get 24LP/win before but after I failed the promo series I only get 4-5LP/win. And I got stuck forever. :/Justykanna wrote:
Yeah, I got stuck in Bronze 1 too. Only getting 5LP / win sucks. >_>Otonashi07 wrote:
Tried to get Silver and failed. Forever Bronze I okay
not to mention how many times I got teamed up with trolls and recently, a Master Yi jungle who doesn't know the use of red and blue and has only 6 runes.
I'm sitting in Silver for S3. /sigh
Maybe I started ranked a little too early; people kept telling me to wait until S4 or play a bunch of normals.
Also, is ARAM supposed to help you with something specific? My plays have gotten so much better after playing ARAM, lol.
Maybe I started ranked a little too early; people kept telling me to wait until S4 or play a bunch of normals.
Also, is ARAM supposed to help you with something specific? My plays have gotten so much better after playing ARAM, lol.
I got promoted from Bronze 3, to 2, then as soon as I hit 1, I started getting 5LP / win and losing 4/loss.Otonashi07 wrote:
That feel. I usually get 24LP/win before but after I failed the promo series I only get 4-5LP/win. And I got stuck forever. :/
not to mention how many times I got teamed up with trolls and recently, a Master Yi jungle who doesn't know the use of red and blue and has only 6 runes.
It's just unfortunate that I ran out of time because I've been on a role lately with my duo-queue partner. Got up to 45LP.
Teamfighting I guess?Hika wrote:
Also, is ARAM supposed to help you with something specific? My plays have gotten so much better after playing ARAM, lol.
Though a couple of friends have told me that playing too much ARAM causes them to get rusty on CS-farming.
Didnt make it to challenger and lost 25lp or whatever for decaying,noooo. Fuck living abroad atthe end of season >_<
#higheloproblemskT fizik wrote:
Didnt make it to challenger and lost 25lp or whatever for decaying,noooo. Fuck living abroad atthe end of season >_<
Already explained this a few pages back.Justykanna wrote:
How's it easy to climb? =S
Anyways... Season 3 is finally over. Good riddance. Lets hope s4 will be way better.
I liked S3 in my opinion, at least because I had a good run at it i guess. The promo's were really exciting and it just made me play 200% better. Really looking for the next season.
maal
Of course it's not lol.
What I mean is...
Going up in the ladder in season 3 compared to the previous seasons is a joke. There was only about 600 people in diamond on NA in season 2 now there is over 20,000 people (There was about 17,000 2 weeks ago). You can argue that more people started playing the game or some got better, but the stats don't add up at all. Bottom line is ranked was made easier and they are making it even more easier next season.
Edit: I think they should combine the old elo system with the new one. The top comment on this reddit post is what I mean http://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends ... games_for/. The big thing I hate about this new ladder system is the best out X shit. Really frustrating.
What I mean is...
Going up in the ladder in season 3 compared to the previous seasons is a joke. There was only about 600 people in diamond on NA in season 2 now there is over 20,000 people (There was about 17,000 2 weeks ago). You can argue that more people started playing the game or some got better, but the stats don't add up at all. Bottom line is ranked was made easier and they are making it even more easier next season.
Edit: I think they should combine the old elo system with the new one. The top comment on this reddit post is what I mean http://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends ... games_for/. The big thing I hate about this new ladder system is the best out X shit. Really frustrating.
maal
idk i dont see anything bad about itVulf wrote:
Of course, but that's not my point at all.
Going up in the ladder in season 3 compared to the previous seasons is a joke. There was only about 600 people in diamond on NA in season 2 now there is over 20,000 people (There was about 17,000 2 weeks ago). You can argue that more people started playing the game or some got better, but the stats don't add up at all. Bottom line is ranked was made easier and they are making it even more easier next season.
people get better, ranking gets easier and youll progress faster making it more competitive
just like when football was new. it gets easier to actually get pro, but gets harder to be competitive.
league isnt a "game" in that way anymore, its a sport and is also recgonized as one
I edited my above post some.
Because the ranked system was changed to make it easier. =\
Honestly I'm fine with it being easier to climb for the most part because I don't have to work as hard. It's just sad that getting to plat and diamond is pretty much worthless now. Which is one of the reasons I stopped playing ranked the second I hit gold.
Because the ranked system was changed to make it easier. =\
Honestly I'm fine with it being easier to climb for the most part because I don't have to work as hard. It's just sad that getting to plat and diamond is pretty much worthless now. Which is one of the reasons I stopped playing ranked the second I hit gold.
Got the victorious elise skin + elise 
Looks nice, nice summoner icons aswell. Now waiting till it get rewarded on my last account, and the wards/border rewards come in.
Looks nice, nice summoner icons aswell. Now waiting till it get rewarded on my last account, and the wards/border rewards come in.
What exactly makes it worthless? Not sure if you mean that it's easy to get into diamond, because it's not. There's a reason why 80% are in bronze and silver compared to for example diamond. Even if you're able to get into Dia, there's still the opportunity to get into Challenger. Yes, some might have been placed into a higher league, but they're just stuck in the V division and they'll be matched with other people of same mmr.Vulf wrote:
I edited my above post some.
Because the ranked system was changed to make it easier. =\
Honestly I'm fine with it being easier to climb for the most part because I don't have to work as hard. It's just sad that getting to plat and diamond is pretty much worthless now. Which is one of the reasons I stopped playing ranked the second I hit gold.
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What exactly makes it worthless? Not sure if you mean that it's easy to get into diamond, because it's not. There's a reason why 80% are in bronze and silver compared to for example diamond. Even if you're able to get into Dia, there's still the opportunity to get into Challenger. Yes, some might have been placed into a higher league, but they're just stuck in the V division and they'll be matched with other people of same mmr.[/quote]
That Mmr --' i think they should put u in a league depending on ure Mmr i am Bronze II but i play vs players that are silver 1/ Gold 5
What exactly makes it worthless? Not sure if you mean that it's easy to get into diamond, because it's not. There's a reason why 80% are in bronze and silver compared to for example diamond. Even if you're able to get into Dia, there's still the opportunity to get into Challenger. Yes, some might have been placed into a higher league, but they're just stuck in the V division and they'll be matched with other people of same mmr.[/quote]
That Mmr --' i think they should put u in a league depending on ure Mmr i am Bronze II but i play vs players that are silver 1/ Gold 5
SoG Tava wrote:
What exactly makes it worthless? Not sure if you mean that it's easy to get into diamond, because it's not. There's a reason why 80% are in bronze and silver compared to for example diamond. Even if you're able to get into Dia, there's still the opportunity to get into Challenger. Yes, some might have been placed into a higher league, but they're just stuck in the V division and they'll be matched with other people of same mmr.
That Mmr --' i think they should put u in a league depending on ure Mmr i am Bronze II but i play vs players that are silver 1/ Gold 5
If you're fighting against higher leagues, then either you have high or they have low mmr (or both). Either way, if you have high mmr, then you should gain a lot of LP after each win compared to low mmr people. For example, I had a win percentage of 53% or smth in silver, and I still gained 20+ lp even in silver 1. Same happened in gold 1 for me.
Don't worry pal, s4 comes with new changes and a soft mmr reset.
Played a little game a while ago.
A short one that is.
My team was Tryndamere, Pulsefire Ezreal, Victorious Elise, and Miss Fortune. I used Phoenix Quinn. Against Taric, Leona, Renektron, Miss Fortune and Queen Ashe.
I didn't even realized that we won already, Ezreal owned the top lane. Hahahaha.
Haven't got the chance to print screen it as I was playing in a comp. shop. After the game there was 1 minute left for me so.. :3
A short one that is.
My team was Tryndamere, Pulsefire Ezreal, Victorious Elise, and Miss Fortune. I used Phoenix Quinn. Against Taric, Leona, Renektron, Miss Fortune and Queen Ashe.
I didn't even realized that we won already, Ezreal owned the top lane. Hahahaha.
Haven't got the chance to print screen it as I was playing in a comp. shop. After the game there was 1 minute left for me so.. :3
Seikunai wrote:
Ezreal owned the top lane. Hahahaha.
Of course Ezreal owns every lane :p
as far as I read about S4, will be very easy to get diamond.
I don't belong to Challenger, I've seen many people much better than me, but playing in the esl vs diamond and challengers made me, and all my team improve. I think I can reach diamond easily if I don't get 5 LP per game, probably I will cry a bit about noobs, ragers and always leavers IN MY TEAM, but I think time to time I will get it
I think me and my team can achieve something on next season, not going to challenger but we're already winning some good teams on Spain, so well, I'm pretty excited about this, and about the support + jungle changes, since we, junglers, and supports will be able to carry even more the asses of our mates
I don't belong to Challenger, I've seen many people much better than me, but playing in the esl vs diamond and challengers made me, and all my team improve. I think I can reach diamond easily if I don't get 5 LP per game, probably I will cry a bit about noobs, ragers and always leavers IN MY TEAM, but I think time to time I will get it
I think me and my team can achieve something on next season, not going to challenger but we're already winning some good teams on Spain, so well, I'm pretty excited about this, and about the support + jungle changes, since we, junglers, and supports will be able to carry even more the asses of our mates
GeeNX wrote:
as far as I read about S4, will be very easy to get diamond.
I don't belong to Challenger, I've seen many people much better than me, but playing in the esl vs diamond and challengers made me, and all my team improve. I think I can reach diamond easily if I don't get 5 LP per game, probably I will cry a bit about noobs, ragers and always leavers IN MY TEAM, but I think time to time I will get it
I think me and my team can achieve something on next season, not going to challenger but we're already winning some good teams on Spain, so well, I'm pretty excited about this, and about the support + jungle changes, since we, junglers, and supports will be able to carry even more the asses of our mates
I also cant w8 there is going to be so manny changes
i am so happy about the support changes finaly supports will have more respect ect now .I obviously don't remember seeing it then.Vulf wrote:
Already explained this a few pages back.
I had fun too, but that might be because I have nothing to compare it too - I started League during pre-season of Season 3.psKirika wrote:
I liked S3 in my opinion, at least because I had a good run at it i guess. The promo's were really exciting and it just made me play 200% better. Really looking for the next season.
I don't really think it's easy to climb, especially if you solo queue ranked a lot.maal wrote:
its not easy to climb for everyone
So they need to make the ranking harder? Means I'd get buried in what... Bronze 5?Vulf wrote:
Honestly I'm fine with it being easier to climb for the most part because I don't have to work as hard. It's just sad that getting to plat and diamond is pretty much worthless now. Which is one of the reasons I stopped playing ranked the second I hit gold.
Is that for normals too, or just ranked?psKirika wrote:
Don't worry pal, s4 comes with new changes and a soft mmr reset.
Not sure. Though it doesn't really matter, does it? O: Cuz you won't know the rank you are in normals anyways
I usually end up facing golds and silvers in normal and bronzes and low silvers in Ranked. xDpsKirika wrote:
Not sure. Though it doesn't really matter, does it? O: Cuz you won't know the rank you are in normals anyways
:$
the banner is from your team ranking now õ_o ?GeeNX wrote:
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diamondpsKirika wrote:
WHAT IS THAT PLAT? O:<
GeeNX wrote:
:$
Congratz on ure achievementspsKirika wrote:
I thought so. Plat border is okay tho
Also which Champs do u guys enjoyed the most this season ? Mine are :
-Riven
-Gragas
-Vayne
It kinda is. I got into gold in less than 50 games and I've had a lot of my friends get into gold from their placement matches alone (these guys were all silver in s1 and s2).psKirika wrote:
What exactly makes it worthless? Not sure if you mean that it's easy to get into diamond, because it's not. There's a reason why 80% are in bronze and silver compared to for example diamond. Even if you're able to get into Dia, there's still the opportunity to get into Challenger. Yes, some might have been placed into a higher league, but they're just stuck in the V division and they'll be matched with other people of same mmr.
One of my friends who stopped playing league for 2 years came back and got diamond in less than 3 weeks with less than 100 total ranked games. LMAO
I've played over 500 games with this guy and he isn't bad at the game at all, but he is definitely not diamond worthy. We both are very surprised on how easily he got there lol. If I would have known about this sooner I would have actually tried for diamond (probably not lol)
I'm not saying it's easy for everyone to get there, but its definitely easier to get there.
Well thats what Riot wanted , The community Was Blaming The elo system for beiing to hard So riot introduced the league systemVulf wrote:
It kinda is. I got into gold in less than 50 games and I've had a lot of my friends get into gold from their placement matches alone (these guys were all silver in s1 and s2).psKirika wrote:
What exactly makes it worthless? Not sure if you mean that it's easy to get into diamond, because it's not. There's a reason why 80% are in bronze and silver compared to for example diamond. Even if you're able to get into Dia, there's still the opportunity to get into Challenger. Yes, some might have been placed into a higher league, but they're just stuck in the V division and they'll be matched with other people of same mmr.
One of my friends who stopped playing league for 2 years came back and got diamond in less than 3 weeks with less than 100 total ranked games. LMAO
I've played over 500 games with this guy and he isn't bad at the game at all, but he is definitely not diamond worthy. We both are very surprised on how easily he got there lol. If I would have known about this sooner I would have actually tried for diamond (probably not lol)
I'm not saying it's easy for everyone to get there, but its definitely easier to get there.
I really like that Riot listens to their community on everything, but they need to draw the line somewhere. Honestly I wouldn't be surprised if they changed ranked to one giant Diamond League because so many people complained abut it. lol. Predictions for season 5 ranked ladder.SoG Tava wrote:
Well thats what Riot wanted , The community Was Blaming The elo system for beiing to hard So riot introduced the league system
To keep this going
I only play Warwick for the most part, but I do have a few rumble, volibear and vlad games this season.SoG Tava wrote:
Also which Champs do u guys enjoyed the most this season ? Mine are :
-Riven
-Gragas
-Vayne
I have and if it was season 2 the plat and diamond bars would be almost non existent like the challenger one.
You can't deny the system was made easier.
You can't deny the system was made easier.
The devil is among TheOddOne
Gangplank, Garen and Galio. =)SoG Tava wrote:
Also which Champs do u guys enjoyed the most this season ? Mine are :
-Riven
-Gragas
-Vayne
thresh, thresh, and deep terror thresh
I agree with you on that point, but it still is very quite hard. I guess s2 dia tier moved up to challenger tier this season.Vulf wrote:
I have and if it was season 2 the plat and diamond bars would be almost non existent like the challenger one.
You can't deny the system was made easier.
Draven, vayne and twisted fate
Not really. S2 diamonds are mostly in very high diamond 1 (80-100 LP) and then the 50 that held off their promotion series until this weekend are the ones in challenger.
Diamond 1 and challenger are the people that were diamond in season 2 maybe some high plat. Remember there was only about 600 people in diamond in season 2. Everything under diamond 1 is pretty much gold and silver players from the previous season.
Alright we got that, no need to talk about the exactly same thing we discussed about like 25 pages ago.
Not everyone saw those post as you can see, and I don't mind repeating myself for others for the most part.
Since this is a huge thread with almost 500 pages you can't expect people to know what was discussed or not. That's a problem with this being one big thread.
Since this is a huge thread with almost 500 pages you can't expect people to know what was discussed or not. That's a problem with this being one big thread.
BrokenArrow wrote:
Alright we got that, no need to talk about the exactly same thing we discussed about like 25 pages ago.
Indeed we got the point now
HOLY SHIT LOL
Then immediately after
Then immediately after
Azer wrote:
HOLY SHIT LOL
Then immediately after
Wow Gratz Man Thats a verry nice one i Got a Longhorn alistar .And i Hate Alistar x)
-CassiopeiaSoG Tava wrote:
Also which Champs do u guys enjoyed the most this season ? Mine are :
-Riven
-Gragas
-Vayne
-Sona
I carried. x3
La Volpe wrote:
-CassiopeiaSoG Tava wrote:
Also which Champs do u guys enjoyed the most this season ? Mine are :
-Riven
-Gragas
-Vayne
-Sona
I carried. x3
hahah Nice , supp FTW !!
The only annoying thing is that its become worthless to try to get to diamond for people from diamond from season 2. I made an effort to get diamond in season 2 and felt very proud of my achievement but I just feel like with s3 being everyone having diamond,my achievement has just been eradicated. The only realistic thing I couldve tried was challenger but the endless grinding wasnt worth it. So basically Riot created a ranked system which has a gap for the 600 players from diamond in season 2, which made 90% of the season for me just random funtrolling in soloQ. Diamond too easy,challenger too annoying. But welp,players get better and so on but I dont think these many people belong to the 2nd highest rated league in this game.Vulf wrote:
Diamond 1 and challenger are the people that were diamond in season 2 maybe some high plat. Remember there was only about 600 people in diamond in season 2. Everything under diamond 1 is pretty much gold and silver players from the previous season.
Oh and yeah,most of the complaining by people like me is just about butthurt egos,so I should punch myself for being a dick.
Im not going to deny that climbing this seasom was easier but, divisions I and V, riot fucked up there. Anyways, you can't compqre how much people plays League now and last year, its normal that there are more diamomds and so, just look at how many silvers are, thats fucking crazy. Anyways, diamond now is not ghat...."important" as it was before but well, too mucj people playing League.
Riot pls
Riot pls
- Sona
- Xin (3v3)
- Gragas
- Miss fortune (before whole nerf to death because black cleaver OP)
I agree aswell that plat/diamond should be made harder to reach, maybe a variable mmr necessary to reach certain division, increasing over time as the season continues to only let X% players into certain leagues/divisions. Even strict % values for every 25 lp range in diamond to prevent the whole D1 issue in which clamping was too big by spreading it over D2-5.
- Xin (3v3)
- Gragas
- Miss fortune (before whole nerf to death because black cleaver OP)
I agree aswell that plat/diamond should be made harder to reach, maybe a variable mmr necessary to reach certain division, increasing over time as the season continues to only let X% players into certain leagues/divisions. Even strict % values for every 25 lp range in diamond to prevent the whole D1 issue in which clamping was too big by spreading it over D2-5.
maal
i just feel that whenever people whine about it being easier to climb and "too many" diamonds, its either because 1) its the old diamond players that arent THAT SUPER special anymore, even though they are super special or 2) lower elo players are mad because they cant climb and become diamond
i honestly get sick when i see people complain about how "easy" it is to climb
i honestly get sick when i see people complain about how "easy" it is to climb
Agree!SiFly wrote:
- Sona
- Xin (3v3)
- Gragas
- Miss fortune (before whole nerf to death because black cleaver OP)
I agree aswell that plat/diamond should be made harder to reach, maybe a variable mmr necessary to reach certain division, increasing over time as the season continues to only let X% players into certain leagues/divisions. Even strict % values for every 25 lp range in diamond to prevent the whole D1 issue in which clamping was too big by spreading it over D2-5.
Challenger will have more slots next season.
They have added a new level with each season.
Beta was just a ladder afaik
Season one only went up to plat
Season two diamond was added
Season 3 challenger was added and it was kinda abusable at the end lol. Also 3v3 has been incredibly abusable since early season 2 and was never fixed for some reason.
Honestly they should just get rid of the whole tier system it's pretty stupid. No one cares if you are gold 5 or gold 1 because it's all the same in the end. The bottom of bronze and the top of diamond is all that really means anything when it comes to tiers.
maal wrote:
i wish i was bronze
Why do u Wish u where Bronze ? Believe me u don't want to .
I am Silver right now. In PH that is.
Working my way up, at at least Gold. I want to get Victorious Elise skin.
Working my way up, at at least Gold. I want to get Victorious Elise skin.
Seikunai wrote:
I am Silver right now. In PH that is.
Working my way up, at at least Gold. I want to get Victorious Elise skin.
I am sorry to disapoint u but u are already to late for that :/
maal
Yeah ok i get ure point but believe me they still will flame u if u take adc brand :p
You can always try unconventional stuff in normals wiithout causing any negative consequences for others, if you didn't know that.maal wrote:
ofc i doSoG Tava wrote:
Why do u Wish u where Bronze ? Believe me u don't want to .
i want to be able to go brand adc without anyone flaming (get it?)
but no really i do so much more fun in lower elo
maal
Some people find it fun to play against people significantly lesser skilled than them apparently...SoG Tava wrote:
Why do u Wish u where Bronze ? Believe me u don't want to .
Is that hard to get the ELO system back? Geez
I love that champ
Ignore the crap farm
Soarezi
no dfg with the donger? ggJordan wrote:
I love that champ
Ignore the crap farm
That's kinda insulting. =/Soarezi wrote:
Lower elo is so dumb. They act like they're so amazing, blaming you 24/7 calling you out, when in reality they're fucking dogshit themselves. oh gawd never again low elo
I'm a Bronze player and that is no where close to my attitude in the game.
That being said, some people do like to say something along the lines of 'you're not good at the game' in ranked... I usually come up with something along the lines of 'you're playing with Silver and Bronze players... you can't be that good yourself if you're here with us'. That usually shuts them right up, even if they're only joking around.
I actually had one guy say 'Nah, I don't belong here, I'm really good'. That was interesting... He went Jungle-Jarvan IV ... wasn't 'bad', but there were some decisions he/she made that just... weren't good ones.
Is it a good item on him? idk i dont think of him as an assassin typeGeeNX wrote:
no dfg with the donger? ggJordan wrote:
I love that champ
Ignore the crap farm
Justykanna wrote:
That's kinda insulting. =/Soarezi wrote:
Lower elo is so dumb. They act like they're so amazing, blaming you 24/7 calling you out, when in reality they're fucking dogshit themselves. oh gawd never again low elo
I'm a Bronze player and that is no where close to my attitude in the game.
That being said, some people do like to say something along the lines of 'you're not good at the game' in ranked... I usually come up with something along the lines of 'you're playing with Silver and Bronze players... you can't be that good yourself if you're here with us'. That usually shuts them right up, even if they're only joking around.
I actually had one guy say 'Nah, I don't belong here, I'm really good'. That was interesting... He went Jungle-Jarvan IV ... wasn't 'bad', but there were some decisions he/she made that just... weren't good ones.
Yeah i know what u mean i am Bronze myself i play this Game for like 3 years now And yes i am still Bronze the reason for that is i like to play normals more its just more fun people enjoy the game more cause they are not Raging if we are losing cause u have nothing to lose but yeah i guess this season i will try hard i think i can atleast reach Gold that will be my goal
Isn't that hard to reach gold, basically involves not randomly blindly running towards something.
This said about mechanics, i've seens bronze IV with equal mechanics as me as plat player. What they did wrong? stupid mistakes, using an ability and afterwards staying in range and that kind of stuff.
This said about mechanics, i've seens bronze IV with equal mechanics as me as plat player. What they did wrong? stupid mistakes, using an ability and afterwards staying in range and that kind of stuff.
Well yeah i think i am one of those players i almost always stomp players in lane ect but after i make stupid mistakes i need to learn to play more focused not like lalala i am fed i can kill everybody lalalal no i need to be more like ok i am fed we can take objectifs push towers then do a teamfight ectSiFly wrote:
Isn't that hard to reach gold, basically involves not randomly blindly running towards something.
This said about mechanics, i've seens bronze IV with equal mechanics as me as plat player. What they did wrong? stupid mistakes, using an ability and afterwards staying in range and that kind of stuff.
somebody please teach me how to play Riven properly , Thanks <3
Hakeru wrote:
somebody please teach me how to play Riven properly , Thanks <3
http://www.lolking.net/guides/106145
This will help you alot
Even if they have the same mechanics, the game is WAY more complicated than that bro. Skill difference isn't only because of mechanic difference. It isn't only about making stupid mistakes and stuff like that.SiFly wrote:
Isn't that hard to reach gold, basically involves not randomly blindly running towards something.
This said about mechanics, i've seens bronze IV with equal mechanics as me as plat player. What they did wrong? stupid mistakes, using an ability and afterwards staying in range and that kind of stuff.
I agree with u on that its also about reaction time , decision making and manny morepsKirika wrote:
Even if they have the same mechanics, the game is WAY more complicated than that bro. Skill difference isn't only because of mechanic difference. It isn't only about making stupid mistakes and stuff like that.SiFly wrote:
Isn't that hard to reach gold, basically involves not randomly blindly running towards something.
This said about mechanics, i've seens bronze IV with equal mechanics as me as plat player. What they did wrong? stupid mistakes, using an ability and afterwards staying in range and that kind of stuff.
u don't need any item toJordan wrote:
Is it a good item on him? idk i dont think of him as an assassin type
you can burst with w and e now so yeah dfg could work well. also dfg doesn't mean assassin, it's just a burst item (ofc most of the char who can burst are assassin...)
Playing normals over ranked doesn't matter, because I only have 80 total ranked games with season 2 and 3 combined and I still got gold very easily in season 3. Normals are supposed to prepare you for ranked by the way. Not sure why some people act like it's some sort of troll queue half the time even though I have encountered way more trolls in the 80ish ranked games than I have in the last 300 or so normal games.SoG Tava wrote:
Yeah i know what u mean i am Bronze myself i play this Game for like 3 years now And yes i am still Bronze the reason for that is i like to play normals more its just more fun people enjoy the game more cause they are not Raging if we are losing cause u have nothing to lose but yeah i guess this season i will try hard i think i can atleast reach Gold that will be my goal
As already mentioned people in bronze lack mechanics and have poor decision making. Another big thing is they don't know a lot of champion match ups at all. I've seen some of my friends that are bronze all in against stuff like Riven as Singed or Yi at level 2 and feed horribly and they don't understand why they died and lost that lane. There is also stuff like proper itemization (when to build this or that) that causes them to not do well, but that's not only limited to bronze because I see diamond players itemize terribly all the time. It's just more extreme in bronze. lol
If you really want to climb ranked it's probably best to just play one or two champions for each role. I really don't get why people try to be so diverse with their champion pool if they are under diamond. I only play one champion in ranked and it very rarely put me at a disadvantage. Even pros like Dyrus and a few others have said it's best to just spam 1 or 2 champions to get to diamond and then branch out from there.
Vulf wrote:
Playing normals over ranked doesn't matter, because I only have 80 total ranked games with season 2 and 3 combined and I still got gold very easily in season 3. Normals are supposed to prepare you for ranked by the way. Not sure why some people act like it's some sort of troll queue half the time even though I have encountered way more trolls in the 80ish ranked games than I have in the last 300 or so normal games.SoG Tava wrote:
Yeah i know what u mean i am Bronze myself i play this Game for like 3 years now And yes i am still Bronze the reason for that is i like to play normals more its just more fun people enjoy the game more cause they are not Raging if we are losing cause u have nothing to lose but yeah i guess this season i will try hard i think i can atleast reach Gold that will be my goal
As already mentioned people in bronze lack mechanics and have poor decision making. Another big thing is they don't know a lot of champion match ups at all. I've seen some of my friends that are bronze all in against stuff like Riven as Singed or Yi at level 2 and feed horribly and they don't understand why they died and lost that lane. There is also stuff like proper itemization (when to build this or that) that causes them to not do well, but that's not only limited to bronze because I see diamond players itemize terribly all the time. It's just more extreme in bronze. lol
If you really want to climb ranked it's probably best to just play one or two champions for each role. I really don't get why people try to be so diverse with their champion pool if they are under diamond. I only play one champion in ranked and it very rarely put me at a disadvantage. Even pros like Dyrus and a few others have said it's best to just spam 1 or 2 champions to get to diamond and then branch out from there.
Mhh i see its better to go with 1 champ he well i guess ill go main riven she is fun to play and when is see pro players streaming and they play riven they just stomp other people they also say that riven is one of the best solo Q champs i guess i will go like this:
Top: Riven/jax
Mid:Kassadin/gragas
Jungle: lee sin /elise
Adc:Vayne/cait
Supp:Sona/thresh
I actually haven't played anything but ranked lately, lol.SoG Tava wrote:
Yeah i know what u mean i am Bronze myself i play this Game for like 3 years now And yes i am still Bronze the reason for that is i like to play normals more its just more fun people enjoy the game more cause they are not Raging if we are losing cause u have nothing to lose but yeah i guess this season i will try hard i think i can atleast reach Gold that will be my goal
Yeah, my reaction time needs serious work. D=SoG Tava wrote:
I agree with u on that its also about reaction time , decision making and manny more
I don't get why either - people treat normals like they mean zero.Vulf wrote:
Not sure why some people act like it's some sort of troll queue half the time even though I have encountered way more trolls in the 80ish ranked games than I have in the last 300 or so normal games.
I was actually told that matchups don't really matter at such a low level.Vulf wrote:
Another big thing is they don't know a lot of champion match ups at all.
Yeah, I then was told that. lol.Vulf wrote:
If you really want to climb ranked it's probably best to just play one or two champions for each role.
Top: Gangplank (apparently people REALLY don't like me playing him for whatever reason...), Garen
Jungle: Maokai, Xin Zhao
Mid: Talon, Galio
ADC: Sivir
Support: Nami
I need a backup ADC and support... D=
Justykanna wrote:
I actually haven't played anything but ranked lately, lol.SoG Tava wrote:
Yeah i know what u mean i am Bronze myself i play this Game for like 3 years now And yes i am still Bronze the reason for that is i like to play normals more its just more fun people enjoy the game more cause they are not Raging if we are losing cause u have nothing to lose but yeah i guess this season i will try hard i think i can atleast reach Gold that will be my goalYeah, my reaction time needs serious work. D=SoG Tava wrote:
I agree with u on that its also about reaction time , decision making and manny moreI don't get why either - people treat normals like they mean zero.Vulf wrote:
Not sure why some people act like it's some sort of troll queue half the time even though I have encountered way more trolls in the 80ish ranked games than I have in the last 300 or so normal games.I was actually told that matchups don't really matter at such a low level.Vulf wrote:
Another big thing is they don't know a lot of champion match ups at all.Yeah, I then was told that. lol.Vulf wrote:
If you really want to climb ranked it's probably best to just play one or two champions for each role.
Top: Gangplank (apparently people REALLY don't like me playing him for whatever reason...), Garen
Jungle: Maokai, Xin Zhao
Mid: Talon, Galio
ADC: Sivir
Support: Nami
I need a backup ADC and support... D=
play cait and sona they are realy good and not hard to play
i find people are a lot more concerned with lane counters at lower elo, and then as you get higher people gradually start to give 0 fucks and play whatever
matchups aren't exactly the same thing iirc? it's more the dynamic of how one champion works against another and it's just something you learn through playing vs everyone
matchups aren't exactly the same thing iirc? it's more the dynamic of how one champion works against another and it's just something you learn through playing vs everyone
Soarezi
Matchup is the instance of one or more champion(s) versus another. You can have good, equal, or bad matchups.
At every level of play, people will try to counter pick. Only at the higher levels will it actually matter; in order to outmatch the enemy by counterpicking it is assumed skill is already high enough from both sides.
At every level of play, people will try to counter pick. Only at the higher levels will it actually matter; in order to outmatch the enemy by counterpicking it is assumed skill is already high enough from both sides.
maal
idk that's your opinion really. sona is faceroll on keyboard sure, but can you time the proper power chord for your adc and you to win the trade? do you know when to ult so you actually secure a kill for your adc?SoG Tava wrote:
play cait and sona they are realy good and not hard to play
cait surely has the longest range in the whole game, but saying she's "not hard to play" is an underestatement. i honestly think she's hard to play, i have no clue why. call me bad or whatever, but i think cait is pretty hard.
Well if u look it that way every champ is hard to play , u still need to practice of coursemaal wrote:
idk that's your opinion really. sona is faceroll on keyboard sure, but can you time the proper power chord for your adc and you to win the trade? do you know when to ult so you actually secure a kill for your adc?SoG Tava wrote:
play cait and sona they are realy good and not hard to play
cait surely has the longest range in the whole game, but saying she's "not hard to play" is an underestatement. i honestly think she's hard to play, i have no clue why. call me bad or whatever, but i think cait is pretty hard.
If you do main adc caitlyn is not hard, but if you main something else and you don't know how to make Caitlyn worth (like me) then don't pick her.
tyrael6192 wrote:
i find people are a lot more concerned with lane counters at lower elo, and then as you get higher people gradually start to give 0 fucks and play whatever
matchups aren't exactly the same thing iirc? it's more the dynamic of how one champion works against another and it's just something you learn through playing vs everyone
This is so true and so wrong at the same time. Picking the right/wrong champions can win/lose the lane straight. I ALWAYS chose an adc by our teamcomp / their bot lane. While others might not and get crushed in lane by first picking and insta-locking Vayne.
I step away from my computer for half an hour and there's like... five more posts here... D=
Didn't like Caitlyn's kit at all. Her ultimate's easily blocked by someone else, her Q keeps her in one spot for a short time. I like Sivir because she's mobile, she has a defensive option (her spell shield) and her Q takes zero time to launch and people can't dodge it (which makes it super fun). I loved her before the rework.
Sona... ehhh... I don't feel like she has enough to protect her ADC. Nami has a stun, slow, heal, poke and wide-range, long-range ultimate slow. Then her passive.
Support, I need someone who can poke and protect the ADC really well and I just find Nami's best for that.
I mean, if I see a Pantheon, I'm not gonna pick my main (Gangplank).
That reminds me, why do people hate Gangplank so much? o_O
I've seen a lot of Vayne banning lately. I guess she's popular?
I've actually tried both and didn't like either. =/SoG Tava wrote:
play cait and sona they are realy good and not hard to play
Didn't like Caitlyn's kit at all. Her ultimate's easily blocked by someone else, her Q keeps her in one spot for a short time. I like Sivir because she's mobile, she has a defensive option (her spell shield) and her Q takes zero time to launch and people can't dodge it (which makes it super fun). I loved her before the rework.
Sona... ehhh... I don't feel like she has enough to protect her ADC. Nami has a stun, slow, heal, poke and wide-range, long-range ultimate slow. Then her passive.
At least for ADC, I need someone mobile. I considered Lucian but I heard he's underpowered.SoG Tava wrote:
Well if u look it that way every champ is hard to play , u still need to practice of course
Support, I need someone who can poke and protect the ADC really well and I just find Nami's best for that.
tyrael6192 wrote:
i find people are a lot more concerned with lane counters at lower elo, and then as you get higher people gradually start to give 0 fucks and play whatever
I thought that you were suppose to counter-pick all the time (I have friends who watch pros while I do not) but wasn't told until late that matchups matter less at Bronze level. I'll worry about matchups when I start to rank up, but at Bronze, I don't care... yet.psKirika wrote:
This is so true and so wrong at the same time. Picking the right/wrong champions can win/lose the lane straight. I ALWAYS chose an adc by our teamcomp / their bot lane. While others might not and get crushed in lane by first picking and insta-locking Vayne.
I mean, if I see a Pantheon, I'm not gonna pick my main (Gangplank).
That reminds me, why do people hate Gangplank so much? o_O
I've seen a lot of Vayne banning lately. I guess she's popular?
Vayne is banned because she's basically the strongest adc duelist late game and can carry hard alone. For example, 1 item Vayne = 2 item Cait etc.Justykanna wrote:
I step away from my computer for half an hour and there's like... five more posts here... D=I've actually tried both and didn't like either. =/SoG Tava wrote:
play cait and sona they are realy good and not hard to play
Didn't like Caitlyn's kit at all. Her ultimate's easily blocked by someone else, her Q keeps her in one spot for a short time. I like Sivir because she's mobile and her Q takes zero time to launch and people can't dodge it (which makes it super fun). I loved her before the rework.
Sona... ehhh... I don't feel like she has enough to protect her ADC. Nami has a stun, slow, heal, poke and wide-range, long-range ultimate slow. Then her passive.At least for ADC, I need someone mobile. I considered Lucian but I heard he's underpowered.SoG Tava wrote:
Well if u look it that way every champ is hard to play , u still need to practice of course
Support, I need someone who can poke and protect the ADC really well and I just find Nami's best for that.tyrael6192 wrote:
i find people are a lot more concerned with lane counters at lower elo, and then as you get higher people gradually start to give 0 fucks and play whateverI thought that you were suppose to counter-pick all the time (I have friends who watch pros while I do not) but wasn't told until late that matchups matter less at Bronze level. I'll worry about matchups when I start to rank up, but at Bronze, I don't care... yet.psKirika wrote:
This is so true and so wrong at the same time. Picking the right/wrong champions can win/lose the lane straight. I ALWAYS chose an adc by our teamcomp / their bot lane. While others might not and get crushed in lane by first picking and insta-locking Vayne.
I mean, if I see a Pantheon, I'm not gonna pick my main (Gangplank).
That reminds me, why do people hate Gangplank so much? o_O
I've seen a lot of Vayne banning lately. I guess she's popular?
The thing is though, she usually has a horrible laning phrase versus most adc's, and when I see a enemy first pick vayne, I can feel the LP just cash in as I know I'm usually able to crush bot lane.
Pff...not with a halfway decent support. Any vayne I support is absolutely huge coming out of laning phase...and proceeds to throw by trying and failing to 1v4. Why does every vayne player think they're doublelift lol
hi im gosu
I don't play adc, but when I do, I'm Doublelift
I always play adc, but I'm never like Doublelift
#vayne dying 1v4
#vayne dying 1v4
The first 2 games I played Caitlyn in ranked I stole a dragon with my Q without having it warded. Felt so good
At the same time those were the first dragon steals I've ever done. Still lost the game :/
At the same time those were the first dragon steals I've ever done. Still lost the game :/
a skilled and practiced vayne destroys a championselect.net hero who plays a mediocre caitlynpsKirika wrote:
tyrael6192 wrote:
i find people are a lot more concerned with lane counters at lower elo, and then as you get higher people gradually start to give 0 fucks and play whatever
matchups aren't exactly the same thing iirc? it's more the dynamic of how one champion works against another and it's just something you learn through playing vs everyone
This is so true and so wrong at the same time. Picking the right/wrong champions can win/lose the lane straight. I ALWAYS chose an adc by our teamcomp / their bot lane. While others might not and get crushed in lane by first picking and insta-locking Vayne.
but the point is if you're climbing and playing one champion you're good at you will inadvertently come up against your counters and 50%+ of the time you will beat them anyway because they prioritize "lol counter them easy gg" over knowing a champion
this applies less to bot lane because of weird synergies and shit but solo lanes? always
maal
no ur the #vayne killing 1v4Nofool wrote:
I always play adc, but I'm never like Doublelift
#vayne dying 1v4
anyway what tyrael says is somewhat true
thing is championselect.net and all these websites only take LANING phase into account
caitlyn vayne's hardest counter? ask them when they both have full items at 40 min mark
a bad vayne can even kill a mediocre caitlyn
maal wrote:
no ur the #vayne killing 1v4Nofool wrote:
I always play adc, but I'm never like Doublelift
#vayne dying 1v4
anyway what tyrael says is somewhat true
thing is championselect.net and all these websites only take LANING phase into account
caitlyn vayne's hardest counter? ask them when they both have full items at 40 min mark
a bad vayne can even kill a mediocre caitlyn
But see, by your logic, Nasus counters every toplaner. Vayne obviously scales harder than Cait, but that's not what we're discussing.
I wouldn't say Cait is Vayne's hardest counter but in a Cait and Vayne matchup of equal skill and equally competent supports, the Cait should have a pretty sizable CS lead coming out of laning phase.
The hardest counter to Vayne is team coordination, gapclosers, CC, AS reduction, and oracles/pink wards. Same as any AD Carry actually. The reason Vayne is so strong in solo queue is that nobody has any coordination so you can skirmish your way to win. Whereas, in competitive play, when Vayne is picked, there needs to be a team comp built around her.
maal
Veigar with infinite stacks
My point being, we were talking about the laning phase and you were talking about lategame scaling.
Lategame scaling is irrelevant if you can never get there.
Lategame scaling is irrelevant if you can never get there.