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jesse1412

pielak213 wrote:

^ I'd just like to add that if the map is easy enough to fc with fl, then it would also be easier to fc with hrhd which gives the same point total.
No.
pielak213
^wat
Almost
^ It depends on the map.
pielak213
^i highly doubt there will be maps with a length of less than 1 minute in freemod
Wishy
Salvage
Then that round will be booring as fuck, yeah we all agree that it won't make such a difference cause it'd take a full 8 people fc to make a difference in score, but the issue is not whatever it is unfair or not, is because atleast for me it just isn't fun to spectators, casters or players at all, i actually feel it takes strategy away from the competition cause of it being so random, it is a weird mod that for sure requires skill but it's not competitive enough to take it in a live tournament.


And i already said that every single one of my arguments is refutable if anyone feels like it, but it's about what players want and i don't think even a 5% of the players want it to be there.
pielak213

pielak213 wrote:

^i highly doubt there will be maps with a length of less than 1 minute in freemod

Wishy wrote:

http://osu.ppy.sh/s/15942
I'm pretty sure you wouldn't choose a map just to prove me wrong
Wishy
xd

Just drop the FL discussion, there is absolutely nothing to worry about.
pielak213
why isnt team usa appearing in wiki :@
buny
The FreeMod bracket will have FreeMod activated. Every individual player can pick Hidden, HardRock, Flashlight or no mod at all. Players may select more than one mod.

pielak213 wrote:

why isnt team usa appearing in wiki :@
it hasn't been updated yet
AmaiHachimitsu
Personally, I really like the implementation of FL since there can actually be a little strategy with swapping players *hint hint* and it being very possible to fc
If you read few pages back you will see that this year maps are gonna be harder than last year. So I expect no map to be an "easy FC" hence this whole discussion is out of place.

If any of the players choose FL it will be for lulz I guess.
jesse1412

AmaiHachimitsu wrote:

Personally, I really like the implementation of FL since there can actually be a little strategy with swapping players *hint hint* and it being very possible to fc
If you read few pages back you will see that this year maps are gonna be harder than last year. So I expect no map to be an "easy FC" hence this whole discussion is out of place.

If any of the players choose FL it will be for lulz I guess.
So it's a "let's not be serious" mod. I'm okay with this but management gets angry when people don't take it seriously, they did last year at least. Fun times.
Sakisan
So far in this edition it's the side of the players that have been taking it too seriously.
But I trust in their ability to let it all loose soon enough. :)
XPJ38
Please update http://osu.ppy.sh/wiki/Osu_World_Cup_2013#Participants, I really would like to know which countries have been accepted so far.
KoiCarp
So like, does anyone know roughly when the map pool gets released publicly? Sorry if it's a stupid question I've not been around for the other owcs >w<
thelewa
I hope this tournament is managed better this year than last year, especially in terms of streaming. I can see that Nyquill is one of the streamers again and as last year has taught us; his internet connection is fucking terrible and the streams were nigh-unwatchable because of it. The same goes for kingking9. I honestly have no idea why you are even accepting them as streamers because the stream is what gives OWC the most publicity and when it looks like utter shit it's not going to be fun to watch for all those THOUSANDS of people watching it.

That's just my 2 cents also I'm going to compete with my team (I didn't ask them if they are fine with competing but I'm sure it's going to work out fine, just like last year)

I also want to be a commentator because I'm lewa, bitches.
Lach

KoiCarp wrote:

So like, does anyone know roughly when the map pool gets released publicly? Sorry if it's a stupid question I've not been around for the other owcs >w<
Week before first round.
Pizzicato

XPJ38 wrote:

Please update http://osu.ppy.sh/wiki/Osu_World_Cup_2013#Participants, I really would like to know which countries have been accepted so far.
seconded
jesse1412

thelewa wrote:

I hope this tournament is managed better this year than last year, especially in terms of streaming. I can see that Nyquill is one of the streamers again and as last year has taught us; his internet connection is fucking terrible and the streams were nigh-unwatchable because of it. The same goes for kingking9. I honestly have no idea why you are even accepting them as streamers because the stream is what gives OWC the most publicity and when it looks like utter shit it's not going to be fun to watch for all those THOUSANDS of people watching it.

That's just my 2 cents also I'm going to compete with my team (I didn't ask them if they are fine with competing but I'm sure it's going to work out fine, just like last year)

I also want to be a commentator because I'm lewa, bitches.
Hallo ich bein Jesse. lewa und ich bin die beste kommentator uberhaupt 8-)
Nyquill

thelewa wrote:

I hope this tournament is managed better this year than last year, especially in terms of streaming. I can see that Nyquill is one of the streamers again and as last year has taught us; his internet connection is fucking terrible and the streams were nigh-unwatchable because of it.
I think you misunderstood the problem I had last year as a streamer, and I streamed for exactly 10 minutes last year :p. Looks like someone needs to straighten out their facts.

Also

Azer

Nyquill wrote:

o_______o
ErunamoJAZZ

Nyquill wrote:

thelewa wrote:

Nice.
thelewa

Nyquill wrote:

I think you misunderstood the problem I had last year as a streamer, and I streamed for exactly 10 minutes last year :p. Looks like someone needs to straighten out their facts.

Also

Your inability and apparent lack of intellect to operate very basic computer programs does still not spell well for your "job" as a streamer

also, your internet connection does not change kingking9's amazing Australian internet connection
Nyquill

thelewa wrote:

Nyquill wrote:

I think you misunderstood the problem I had last year as a streamer, and I streamed for exactly 10 minutes last year :p. Looks like someone needs to straighten out their facts.

Also

Your inability and apparent lack of intellect to operate very basic computer programs does still not spell well for your "job" as a streamer

also, your internet connection does not change kingking9's amazing Australian internet connection

thelewa wrote:

I hope this tournament is managed better this year than last year, especially in terms of streaming. I can see that Nyquill is one of the streamers again and as last year has taught us; his internet connection is fucking terrible and the streams were nigh-unwatchable because of it. The same goes for kingking9.
Weeeeeee

Also, even then you seem to still not understand what the problem was last year. Maybe focus on your job and we'll focus on ours, hm?
Kanye West
I can commentate if you need me. Ebonics optional. 8-)
Froslass

thelewa wrote:

also I'm going to compete with my team

Loctav wrote:

Due to incooperative behavior and ongoing attempts to disturb this tournament in it's organization, thelewa has been banned from all future OWCs.
This was a collective decision by OWC staff.
lol yeah haha
Cyclohexane
Was this from the owc3 thread?
pretty sure it's been voided by peppy
Wishy
I'm also unsure about what are the rules regarding banned players, this meaning exactly what do you have to do (or have done) to be banned from this OWC.
ayi12
pero tengo una duda para jugar el torneo .....voy a jugar con la pc .. o tengo q ir a algun lado
me dicen es que soy nueva ;_; :(
Wishy
El torneo es online y lo podés jugar de donde quieras.
AmaiHachimitsu

Blue Dragon wrote:

thelewa wrote:

also I'm going to compete with my team

Loctav wrote:

Due to incooperative behavior and ongoing attempts to disturb this tournament in it's organization, thelewa has been banned from all future OWCs.
This was a collective decision by OWC staff.
lol yeah haha
When there was still just an announcement about OWC #4 I saw a line there that I understood as every player banned during OWC #3 can participate.
jesse1412
I find it incredible racist how the Bahrain team isn't in pending. OWC staff confirmed for anti Arabian, the sultan has been notified.
Topic Starter
Loctav
thelewa was late. Someone else registered before him.
Zare
oh, is this where the drama starts? *prepares popcorn*
Birdy
ethox

Zarerion wrote:

oh, is this where the drama starts? *prepares popcorn*
Do you believe thelewa would not have had the chance to put up a team on his own if he wanted to play? I mean even he is that on top his things. That or he does not really keep up with his hilights eyes which doesn't surprise me in the slightest.

A lot of things doesn't surprise me
Soarezi

Loctav wrote:

thelewa was late. Someone else registered before him.
3 fast 5 u lewa sry
AmaiHachimitsu
28/32 no Korea no Japan? D:
Wishy
I'm guessing they didn't submit anything yet because they need to test out their players? I assume Japan, Korea and Taiwan are three countries with a lot of outstanding players so they need to see which ones are going to represent the country, dunno.

Gonna try to get in contact with some players from those countries just in case.
AmaiHachimitsu
Well, I thought they will be clever enough as to register and in case change the lineup.

#edit: no China lawl, OWC #4 for Germany D:
fartownik
I was serious when I proposed reserving slots for such teams as Japan or Korea.

If there's no Japan, Korea, China and Taiwan then this tournament shall not exist.
Wishy
I guess if more than 32 teams are registered something is gonna be done, since this is a World Cup I suppose stronger teams are gonna be of a higher priority.
Lokovodo
I strongly encourage people to choose EZ mod and FL, not for lulz, but for serious strategy that comes with it.

( http://www.twitch.tv/lokovodo/c/3092224 ) <- this is what i want in the tournament pls make it happen
AmaiHachimitsu
I guess if more than 32 teams are registered something is gonna be done, since this is a World Cup I suppose stronger teams are gonna be of a higher priority.
I'm pretty much sure there were more than 28 applications from various countries but seems like "someone" is waiting for those 4 countries to fill the team list with them.
Soarezi
Or then they didnt join on purpose to give other countries a chance. Kappa
Mizucchiki
Without Korea and Japan it will be so not interresting ;_;
Wishy
Karuta already submitted the registration form for Japan, not complete but good enough to reserve the slot.
me3lingual

Wishy wrote:

I guess if more than 32 teams are registered something is gonna be done, since this is a World Cup I suppose stronger teams are gonna be of a higher priority.
Doesn't that go against this...

The tournament will run with a total of 32 teams. First come, first serve.
fartownik
If there's no top4 teams in the game then the tournament doesn't make any sense. If I were the organizer I would reserve last 4 slots for them while they're still free.
Wishy
We are all assuming things, Loctav has the final word, might aswell just wait for him. :p
me3lingual
Another idea would be to let these "Top 4" teams have an automatic spot in the Knockout Stage. This would give more countries a chance to compete, at least in the Group Stage. And yet another would be to increase the amount of teams to 40. This would allow five teams per group. And then the top two from each group would move on to the Knockout Stage.

But by reserving slots for teams without prior knowledge to the rest of the countries considering entering seems shady. Because then the other countries are actually rushing to apply for one of 28 spots instead of the 32 stated in the registration rules.
Pizzicato
well, they're interesting to watch. it'd be a sad thing if they won't participate in this tournament
but the tournament can still run without them
JappyBabes

fartownik wrote:

I was serious when I proposed reserving slots for such teams as Japan or Korea.

If there's no Japan, Korea, China and Taiwan then this tournament shall not exist.
2013-10-17 22:21 Loctav: Reserving is invalid.

yeee
Wishy
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Hk.gif Hong Kong
Id.gif Indonesia
My.gif Malaysia
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I'd say all those are pretty much "reserved".
JappyBabes
No, those would be apps or PMs that Loctav has but hasn't checked. Reserved is just no roster/one person or something. Maybe it will actually be competitive this time.
Almost

me3lingual wrote:

Another idea would be to let these "Top 4" teams have an automatic spot in the Knockout Stage. This would give more countries a chance to compete, at least in the Group Stage. And yet another would be to increase the amount of teams to 40. This would allow five teams per group. And then the top two from each group would move on to the Knockout Stage.

But by reserving slots for teams without prior knowledge to the rest of the countries considering entering seems shady. Because then the other countries are actually rushing to apply for one of 28 spots instead of the 32 stated in the registration rules.
Some of those countries might not have enough players of high enough caliber to participate anyway.
Wishy
I wouldn't worry anyways, with Loctav we have kind of discussed what to do if something like that happens, because it would be seriously idiotic to have the best teams out of the World Cup.
JappyBabes

Wishy wrote:

I wouldn't worry anyways, with Loctav we have kind of discussed what to do if something like that happens, because it would be seriously idiotic to have the best teams out of the World Cup.
Exceptions are cool. Looking forward to another short finals.
Froslass
I think it would be cool if we had an elimination round by continent to decide which teams can go (like soccer world cup) but due to lack of time that wouldn't be possible
Wishy
That idea came up but truth is it's a lot of work and there is no time to do such a thing. :(
Fenek Alfa
Just submitted Eiji Kuinbii with HD with the form. It'd be beautiful to see all spammers just flop.
Soarezi

Fenek Alfa wrote:

Just submitted Eiji Kuinbii with HD with the form. It'd be beautiful to see all spammers just flop.
lolwat
Wishy
Japan and Taiwan have sent a registration form already, I think Dungeon sent the Korea's one. Gonna have to wait for confirmation from Loctav.
zerod
:O
ToGlette
I am in charge of Korean Team. I've sent the registration form for Korea. We've just finished our qualifiers today.
friendok
racists why can't arabians like bahrain take part in this tournament
Kanye West
such racist admin

very sad
Topic Starter
Loctav
All slots are full now. Updated rosters.
jesse1412

Loctav wrote:

All slots are full now. Updated rosters.
Racist, Bahrain registered before Korea. I am outrage.
Kanye West

jesus1412 wrote:

Loctav wrote:

All slots are full now. Updated rosters.
Racist, Bahrain registered before Korea. I am outrage.
you not let best team world bahrain enter

such unfair

very admin pls
Azer
RIP in peace Bahrain team, maybe next year.
Metro
wtf is up with Canada team? Where's Layne and Mythol?
Frostmourne

Metro wrote:

wtf is up with Canada team? Where's Layne and Mythol?
Same goes with Dutch team.
Azer

Metro wrote:

wtf is up with Canada team? Where's Layne and Mythol?
Mythol's not coming, Layne and Kairi are there but not on the wiki yet
Synchrostar

Frostmourne wrote:

Metro wrote:

wtf is up with Canada team? Where's Layne and Mythol?
Same goes with Dutch team.
Dutch team this year is a joke, no1 wanted to participate this time ):
i believe, we must make it past groups
pielak213
you guys got my name wrong >;(
buny

pielak213 wrote:

you guys got my name wrong >;(
the dash adds emphasis though




also i hope the commentators pronounce my name properly this year
Pizzicato

Frostmourne wrote:

Metro wrote:

wtf is up with Canada team? Where's Layne and Mythol?
Same goes with Dutch team.
RIP holland
kriers

buny wrote:

i hope the commentators pronounce my name properly this year
What's that like Puny with a B?
Gigo

friendok wrote:

racists why can't arabians like bahrain take part in this tournament
It's not about being racist... The organizers are just afraid of the beast that is Bahrain, that's why they allowed noob countries like South Korea and Japan to participate instead.
I propose that Bahrain has a reserved slot in the finals of every upcoming OWC as a compensation.
Moonpower

Synchrostar wrote:

i believe, we must make it past groups
We still have you, this will be no problem
I believe. GO TEAM DUTCH
buny

kriers wrote:

buny wrote:

i hope the commentators pronounce my name properly this year
What's that like Puny with a B?
buny like bunny pls
Wishy
Punie?
Sieg
I feel like i need to contribute my leet post to this thread
Oinari-sama
So how will the streaming work this year? Will each streamer take turn, or will there be mirror (alternative) streams?

Also I just thought it'll be cool to invite guest commentators to fill the gap between matches (or downtimes) by talking about osu news, highlights and even community projects/tools... sort of like an osu!commercial break? xD

I'm putting this out here now so that I don't forget to post later. I know it's kind of early to talk about this =.=
kriers

buny wrote:

buny like bunny pls
I think you need a name change before that starts making sense. In any case you can't blame anyone for spelling it wrong then ;)
zozozofun

Pizzicato wrote:

RIP holland
Don't call it Holland.
Topic Starter
Loctav
Since all countries are settled now, we shorten the roster change deadline to the 23rd Oct 2013. After this deadline, you can not change your team settings anymore. After this deadline, all rosters get checked.

Please send me your final rosters via forum PM till the 23rd Oct 2013, 23:59:59 UTC.Any roster changes after this deadline can not be considered.
Gigo
So China will not be participating?!?! :o
Almost

Artaxerx wrote:

So China will not be participating?!?! :o
Well it was first in first serve...
AmaiHachimitsu
osu news
"Dear ladies and gentlemen, AmaiHachimitsu has achieved rank ....."


Well it was first in first serve...
HAHAHA, nope
XPJ38

Artaxerx wrote:

So China will not be participating?!?! :o
China did not participate in OWC #2, so that's not the first time :/

Oinari-sama wrote:

Also I just thought it'll be cool to invite guest commentators to fill the gap between matches (or downtimes) by talking about osu news, highlights and even community projects/tools... sort of like an osu!commercial break? xD
That's actually not a bad idea, I'd like this to happen.
wonders
china have registered, just a little bit late...

maybe someone can help us :( ?
wonders
China quited OWC #2, but we are prepared for OWC #4 half a month, just a little bit sad.
Anyway, have a good luck in next year.
khalifa father
i have very sad

no country my is there arabic register

but wishing luck all play fun all have same values not rank it is human value equal, thank you for it maybe the after year bahrain can playing
Sanle
China have no chance to participate in owc...? I'm very sad... i hope someone can help us.. :( :(
ErunamoJAZZ
Colombia also sent late registration. It took us specifying the 8 players ... we did not have many chances to reach semifinal, but we wanted to try.
Until next year :/


EDIT: I suggest that next year the dates notify one week in advance. Also, just take a weekend (3 days) to the form submission.
It is surprising that Japan, Korea and Taiwan, have been the last to join, and it is sad that China has been left out.

I also support the suggestion of Blue Dragon than by continents, increase competitiveness in countries where although they have some good players, but they do not dare to participate because they know they will not win against the top Asians.
It would also be a good way to see that there are level regions.
Wishy

ErunamoJAZZ wrote:

Colombia also sent late registration. It took us specifying the 8 players ... we did not have many chances to reach semifinal, but we wanted to try.
Until next year :/


EDIT: I suggest that next year the dates notify one week in advance. Also, just take a weekend (3 days) to the form submission.
It is surprising that Japan, Korea and Taiwan, have been the last to join, and it is sad that China has been left out.

I also support the suggestion of Blue Dragon than by continents, increase competitiveness in countries where although they have some good players, but they do not dare to participate because they know they will not win against the top Asians.
It would also be a good way to see that there are level regions.
The ideal system would make the top 32 teams play and let the rest out. Making a whole series of tournament to qualify would actually be quite a waste of time, and even if you do it by continent you will get all top teams qualify and end up in the same situation, only you made the good teams waste their time winning 9999999-0 against random teams. xd
Froslass
OWC Second Division anyone?
JappyBabes

Wishy wrote:

you made the good teams waste their time winning 9999999-0 against random teams. xd
That already happened last year though.
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