let me refresh your memorybuny wrote:
i remember no such thingsilmarilen wrote:
all i remember was people saying the maps were too hard in the first round
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Interesting stuff I found browsing last owc thread:
XPJ38: http://puu.sh/1lZiy
Tanzklaue: http://puu.sh/1mjt4
Wishy: http://puu.sh/1ongw
XPJ38: http://puu.sh/1lZiy
Tanzklaue: http://puu.sh/1mjt4
Wishy: http://puu.sh/1ongw
not just that post, read through the next page(s) aswellbuny wrote:
wow i really hope he was trollingsilmarilen wrote:
let me refresh your memory
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though the skill level of the entire community would have increased a lot since last year.
damn, it's so sad to see that difficulty is relative to how hard it is to fc somethingsilmarilen wrote:
not just that post, read through the next page(s) aswell
maps that everyone can fc in 2-3 tries won't make this interesting. Maps where combos are much harder to get without people losing because of a silly mistake are a lot more skill-based rather than luck-based, as well as more intense but i guess everyone just wants maps they can play confidently and boils down to whoever randomly spiked and accuracy
i thought this was meant for top tier players to play, not scrub tier "oh fc no mod first try" players come to pp farm in
also looking at last years finals map pool, those maps are pretty easy and only difficulty in the sense of "fcing" them which also disappoints me (hell i have quite a few ranks in some of those songs when i was in the 4 digits, the 1s i don't i have A's with a few misses that i could probably replace with now)
Regarding map selection, we will be picking maps with Darksonic, he and I will judge if the map is on the right range of difficulty. AR 9 DTs will probably come up on semi finals (maybe just finals) because of their difficulty. This being said, you can expect to see some very hard maps getting played on this tournament.
However, we have yet to agree on certain points, some of these being:
a- How much are FCs gonna be worth.
b- How to deal with Hidden maps, what to look for.
c- Base difficulty for DTs, how hard they should be and what is gonna be the "difficulty" of them.
Etc.
Remember that, in any case, the way we are gonna manage the map selection has changed, and we will probably be aiming for challenging maps instead of 8 FC accuracy wars.
So in any case TRUST ARGENTINA!!!!!!!!11!!1
However, we have yet to agree on certain points, some of these being:
a- How much are FCs gonna be worth.
b- How to deal with Hidden maps, what to look for.
c- Base difficulty for DTs, how hard they should be and what is gonna be the "difficulty" of them.
Etc.
Remember that, in any case, the way we are gonna manage the map selection has changed, and we will probably be aiming for challenging maps instead of 8 FC accuracy wars.
So in any case TRUST ARGENTINA!!!!!!!!11!!1
I still have the spreadsheet, for those interested: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc ... sp=sharingMetro wrote:
XPJ38: http://puu.sh/1lZiy
That's what I wanted yeahhh thanks.XPJ38 wrote:
I still have the spreadsheet, for those interested: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc ... sp=sharingMetro wrote:
XPJ38: http://puu.sh/1lZiy
that's reassuring to know.Wishy wrote:
Regarding map selection, we will be picking maps with Darksonic, he and I will judge if the map is on the right range of difficulty. AR 9 DTs will probably come up on semi finals (maybe just finals) because of their difficulty. This being said, you can expect to see some very hard maps getting played on this tournament.
However, we have yet to agree on certain points, some of these being:
a- How much are FCs gonna be worth.
b- How to deal with Hidden maps, what to look for.
c- Base difficulty for DTs, how hard they should be and what is gonna be the "difficulty" of them.
Etc.
Remember that, in any case, the way we are gonna manage the map selection has changed, and we will probably be aiming for challenging maps instead of 8 FC accuracy wars.
So in any case TRUST ARGENTINA!!!!!!!!11!!1
i know that it must be hard to find challenging maps in the first place, given map selection is limited to only ranked maps, and as we all know most ranked maps are only mapped for the sole purpose of...getting ranked really, with the most minimal effort into quality as possible.
also hoping that hr in the group stages isn't flooded with low od maps, dt being an accuracy war and hd being dt maps are picked again
This is the best map suggestion we've found so far. xd
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Registration Phase: 15-28 Oct 2013
If less than 4 players attend, the maximum time the match will be postponed is 20 minutes.Why can't a team play with 3 players? Is it so devastating to the "show"? Various reasons may stop players from showing up and losing a match without a fight would be lame (especially when the rest of the team wanted to play anyway)
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If you have no time to participate, don't sign up in the first place.
Your team size is 8 to compensate these cases and to ensure that you can find 4 to participate on every match. Not for tactical purposes in the first place.
Your team size is 8 to compensate these cases and to ensure that you can find 4 to participate on every match. Not for tactical purposes in the first place.
I can only see this being the potential foundation for some hefty drama when some team insists "no, it's legit this guy practiced for like a year". This type of memorization mod has no place in a skill tournament anyway, unless you're putting low-tier Hard diffs into the freemod bracket.Loctav wrote:
Wouldn't it be quite obvious?
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Put your bias aside. It start's getting boring. I am not interested in your drama.
Memorization is a skill, not a skill you like, but yet a skill. Also this is no "FL SUCKS" thread, so step aside. (Most people won't pick FL anyways, it's not like random people participate here, 95% of the registered people are well-known)
Memorization is a skill, not a skill you like, but yet a skill. Also this is no "FL SUCKS" thread, so step aside. (Most people won't pick FL anyways, it's not like random people participate here, 95% of the registered people are well-known)
http://osu.ppy.sh/b/125660?m=0 http://osu.ppy.sh/b/134948?m=0 http://osu.ppy.sh/b/76775?m=0 http://osu.ppy.sh/b/17251?m=0 http://osu.ppy.sh/b/48450?m=0Loctav wrote:
Put your bias aside. It start's getting boring. I am not interested in your drama.
Memorization is a skill, not a skill you like, but yet a skill. Also this is no "FL SUCKS" thread, so step aside. (Most people won't pick FL anyways, it's not like random people participate here, 95% of the registered people are well-known)
I know pretty well what FL is and not is - don't assume I don't. I am not bashing FL, I'm not saying it sucks, but I'm saying it's the kind of memorization skill you'd require damn near inhuman reflexes and consistency to pull off FCs with in a tournament. I'm proposing we drop FL as a mod in the freemod, as it'd just bring drama and cheating accusations(at the very least) if someone decided they'd use it. Why not spare yourself the potential trouble?
I have to agree with GN here since FL would only bring trouble to the tournament, also i don't really think it's that fun to watch since i rather watch a tournament in similar conditions, i have to agree as well that stubbornness and stubbornness only will make it stay as it is.
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Probably never :CHernan wrote:
Just wondering when Loctav is gonna learn some manners
@-GN We can deal with the dramas in case they arise. No need to be afraid of the monster under the bed.
Ever heard of "an ounce of prevention is better than a pound of cure" or "better safe than sorry"? That's the point we're trying to make here. And we all agree on removing FL.
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Just because you consider FL as "not worth for tournaments" and a hand-full people agree with you, it's not valid.
Let's more say it like this: I remember tons of people being heavily against mod brackets. Now they are established. Give it a chance. If it sucks, we can remove it later.
Let's more say it like this: I remember tons of people being heavily against mod brackets. Now they are established. Give it a chance. If it sucks, we can remove it later.
Mod brackets are very different to flashlight usage lol but it's impossible to reason anything with you.
Let's give it a chance, is not like the world will end, there should be some maps that could fit perfectly for fl.Metro wrote:
Mod brackets are very different to flashlight usage lol but it's impossible to reason anything with you.
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I do see your point why you consider it as "not worth it" or why you are afraid of cheaters using it. It's not like I do not understand your concerns. But the reasons are still based on assumptions and fears, opinions and tastes - which differ widely. I see no harm in allowing FL in FreeMod, especially because it's in FreeMod. Think about the chances of it's usage and think about, if it's even worth making noise about an option that probably no one is going to use. I remember a lot of cases where people were heavily against certain changes in the world cups, starting with mapselection at all, ending with mod brackets and commentators. Out of my experience, I tend to give things a chance. And iirc, the map selectors agreed with me on that.
We all know how good you guys are at this.Loctav wrote:
We can deal with the dramas in case they arise. No need to be afraid of the monster under the bed.
pls someone practice FL, I demand some drama
Pretty sure we had a poll on some of the things people disagreed on last year, do it again and I'm 99% sure it'll be a landslide against FL.Loctav wrote:
Just because you consider FL as "not worth for tournaments" and a hand-full people agree with you, it's not valid.
Let's more say it like this: I remember tons of people being heavily against mod brackets. Now they are established. Give it a chance. If it sucks, we can remove it later.
So you can just get an easy 1-0 if you tell everyone from your team to FL practice the lowest-combo map on the free-mod bracket?
Seems very unlikely because of the pressure situation and that stuff, but still may happen. Whatever, though
Seems very unlikely because of the pressure situation and that stuff, but still may happen. Whatever, though
No player likes this addition and i can see how you like it being a casual osu standard player, you already know it probabbly won't be used anyways, so i don't see a problem making a poll about it to determine it's usage.
Also, can the warmup map decide who gets to choose first as it did in the previous owc or is the !roll a must?
Also, can the warmup map decide who gets to choose first as it did in the previous owc or is the !roll a must?
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Stuff like this doesn't get decided by a poll. Like eldnl said, give it a chance and let's try it. If you were right about it's inappropriate existence in the owc, we will notice and adjust our rules to it.
We had our concerns, too. But instead of adding an entire FL bracket, we decided for this way to see how good FL is received in matches self - not in prior discussions. Let us make the experience how it works out. And then decide.
If you don't make a huge drama of it (this is dependent on your own discretion), we can sort it out in a civil manner.
But bare words do not convince me or the rest of the management, yet we share certain concerns. But we are not conservative.
!roll is a must.
We had our concerns, too. But instead of adding an entire FL bracket, we decided for this way to see how good FL is received in matches self - not in prior discussions. Let us make the experience how it works out. And then decide.
If you don't make a huge drama of it (this is dependent on your own discretion), we can sort it out in a civil manner.
But bare words do not convince me or the rest of the management, yet we share certain concerns. But we are not conservative.
!roll is a must.
I really hope we don't keep flashlight mod. It will not be fun to play for most participants, and it would not be fun to watch. Nobody wants to open up the stream and see 7 people frantically throwing their cursor all over the screen constantly missing and getting 100s/50s and 1 person who practiced that map for a week click circles nobody can see. It's not fun for the players, and it's not fun for the viewers. At least hidden is fun to play and watch. I think we should have a vote for flashlight mod. This is the one big osu! community tournament for the year that everyone looks forward to, so I think the community should be able to decide if FL should be allowed. It is always a controversial mod here on the forums, whether any of the claims are true or not. This is supposed to be a fun tournament to bring the world together to play some osu, not tear it apart. I can only see FL causing rifts between the community, so why allow it? My opinion is only one of many, but I think this is an issue that is important.
Put it to a vote and let the community decide.
Put it to a vote and let the community decide.
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Based on the first lines of your post, you didn't understand how freemod works. I stopped reading then since your whole post was based on a false fundament
That is just ignorant. He still brings up some good points.Loctav wrote:
Based on the first lines of your post, you didn't understand how freemod works. I stopped reading then since your whole post was based on a false fundament
Thatgooey wrote:
This is the one big osu! community tournament for the year that everyone looks forward to, so I think the community should be able to decide if FL should be allowed. It is always a controversial mod here on the forums, whether any of the claims are true or not. This is supposed to be a fun tournament to bring the world together to play some osu
I think Thatgooey meant to say that he wanted a no-flashlight-rule associated with freemod. As in, players can pick any mod except FL. Which I agree with for the same reasons stated by him.Loctav wrote:
Based on the first lines of your post, you didn't understand how freemod works. I stopped reading then since your whole post was based on a false fundament
Additionally, what if FL is allowed and someone cheats? So you end up with 7 crappy scores/fails and 1 good cheated score, with the cheater's team picking only freemod maps and winning every single time.
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You should not worry about cheaters.
There are certain the reasons, why we don't decide that via a poll.
The poll jesus mentioned was also not official iirc?
If we would let the community decide about everything, we would still have an OWC without any mods and an OWC where the mappools gets designed by pressing F2 in map selection 15 times.
There are certain the reasons, why we don't decide that via a poll.
The poll jesus mentioned was also not official iirc?
If we would let the community decide about everything, we would still have an OWC without any mods and an OWC where the mappools gets designed by pressing F2 in map selection 15 times.
Sooo. I'm still waiting on a reply to my PM, Loctav. It's been almost two days now.
Plenty of highly experienced players propose the FL to be removed. Other highly experienced players agree. I wonder what's the point you're trying to make by keeping it there for no matter what. Listen to players for once, they're the base of this game and this tournament is for them, and them only.
same.Azer wrote:
Sooo. I'm still waiting on a reply to my PM, Loctav. It's been almost two days now.
well, the organizers insist on making the FL thingy happen. players don't want it. I don't like FL too.fartownik wrote:
Plenty of highly experienced players propose the FL to be removed. Other highly experienced players agree. I wonder what's the point you're trying to make by keeping it there for no matter what. Listen to players for once, they're the base of this game and this tournament is for them, and them only.
If they won't listen to our request, can we all agree that we won't use FL in the tournament?
The thing is, FL just doesn't fit in the tournament. I don't mean this to bash FL in any way, I've tried it a bit and it's super hard, but it is just COMPLETELY different from the rest of the game. It takes away most of the reading aspect of the game; you could make a similar argument for hidden but hidden is very readable. In my opinion the only place FL has in a tournament is a FL only tournament (which probably isn't realistic due to cheating but w/e). The other mods change the game a little bit but it's still the same game pretty much (hidden is a little more iffy), whereas FL is practically a different game altogether.
Well i agree on keeping it civil cause it's useless to discuss otherwise, but since this is a discussion thread, i find that FL on the FreeMod bracket is a big deal right now. Everyone made good points about why it isn't good and even wtihout worrying about cheaters (which well if that's the case tbh i guess that could be apllied to every mod) it's still something i don't imagine being fun to cast/watch/play against in a tournament and more so here being the most prestigious one in each year.
I also know that even if i make valid points, they're all refutable if you feel like it, and keeping it is still a logic decision, but even so, player's opinions (and we had several of well known players) are really important in tournaments like this one and i think it should be taken care of or atleast open to variations having a propper discusion.
I also know that even if i make valid points, they're all refutable if you feel like it, and keeping it is still a logic decision, but even so, player's opinions (and we had several of well known players) are really important in tournaments like this one and i think it should be taken care of or atleast open to variations having a propper discusion.
Even if it is allowed during the tournament, we can still all have an agreement amongst us players not to select the mod. Just because as of right now it is allowed, doesn't mean we have to play it. I know that nobody from our team will select it, even if you could have one person prepare a short map to snipe a free win. I don't think it is fair to the viewers or players to have this mod. It's just not very fun for a tournament setting. Regardless of my or anyone else's opinion on the mod itself, I just don't like it being a one time play in a yearly tournament. It's not fair to the players and fans if a team who is clearly outmatched trolls and picks flashlight free mod on a hard map just for the hell of it. I know a great deal of us wouldn't do this, but sometimes people don't act the same on a stage in the spotlight if they aren't used to it. It just creates opportunity to take away legitimacy and fun from the tournament, that's all I'm saying. Again, this is supposed to be a fun international event for the community to come together and enjoy some friendly competition. I think this is a great thing for osu, and only want to see it succeed and have people talk about it until next year as a positive experience. FL mod being played in this tournament would just add fuel to fires that have been burning for a long time now. I don't want to see that. Again, I have nothing against the mod itself.
You're misunderstanding the FreeMod bracket. One team can't choose the Freemod Bracket and say everyone picks flashlight.Thatgooey wrote:
Even if it is allowed during the tournament, we can still all have an agreement amongst us players not to select the mod. Just because as of right now it is allowed, doesn't mean we have to play it. I know that nobody from our team will select it, even if you could have one person prepare a short map to snipe a free win. I don't think it is fair to the viewers or players to have this mod. It's just not very fun for a tournament setting. Regardless of my or anyone else's opinion on the mod itself, I just don't like it being a one time play in a yearly tournament. It's not fair to the players and fans if a team who is clearly outmatched trolls and picks flashlight free mod on a hard map just for the hell of it. I know a great deal of us wouldn't do this, but sometimes people don't act the same on a stage in the spotlight if they aren't used to it. It just creates opportunity to take away legitimacy and fun from the tournament, that's all I'm saying. Again, this is supposed to be a fun international event for the community to come together and enjoy some friendly competition. I think this is a great thing for osu, and only want to see it succeed and have people talk about it until next year as a positive experience. FL mod being played in this tournament would just add fuel to fires that have been burning for a long time now. I don't want to see that. Again, I have nothing against the mod itself.
I find watching someone retrying a map on FL for an hour a lot more fun than watching someone retry a normal map hddt for an hour. Very few people will probably even attempt flashlight because the risk is so high. Choosing FL means that you're 100% you can FC the map because everybody else is most likely going to FC the map and missing once means you're screwed.
Personally, I really like the implementation of FL since there can actually be a little strategy with swapping players *hint hint* and it being very possible to fc. I'm really hoping for a Korea secret strategy to come out and surprise everyone who doesn't know its players.
As for cheaters, I'm not going into detail but I know there are more methods than just looking at processes to determine if someone hacked FL.
I thought free mod meant each players gets to decide which mod he is going to use? If that's the case, why do you care if some guy goes and adds FL? Looks like a high risk high reward play for me, and even then it's not even worth it since because of how the tournament works (and the maps we are picking) it would only really be worth anything if everyone gets and FC and you actually win because of the advantage FL gave you.
^ I'd just like to add that if the map is easy enough to fc with fl, then it would also be easier to fc with hrhd which gives the same point total.
No.pielak213 wrote:
^ I'd just like to add that if the map is easy enough to fc with fl, then it would also be easier to fc with hrhd which gives the same point total.
^ It depends on the map.
^i highly doubt there will be maps with a length of less than 1 minute in freemod
Then that round will be booring as fuck, yeah we all agree that it won't make such a difference cause it'd take a full 8 people fc to make a difference in score, but the issue is not whatever it is unfair or not, is because atleast for me it just isn't fun to spectators, casters or players at all, i actually feel it takes strategy away from the competition cause of it being so random, it is a weird mod that for sure requires skill but it's not competitive enough to take it in a live tournament.
And i already said that every single one of my arguments is refutable if anyone feels like it, but it's about what players want and i don't think even a 5% of the players want it to be there.
And i already said that every single one of my arguments is refutable if anyone feels like it, but it's about what players want and i don't think even a 5% of the players want it to be there.
pielak213 wrote:
^i highly doubt there will be maps with a length of less than 1 minute in freemod
I'm pretty sure you wouldn't choose a map just to prove me wrongWishy wrote:
http://osu.ppy.sh/s/15942
xd
Just drop the FL discussion, there is absolutely nothing to worry about.
Just drop the FL discussion, there is absolutely nothing to worry about.
The FreeMod bracket will have FreeMod activated. Every individual player can pick Hidden, HardRock, Flashlight or no mod at all. Players may select more than one mod.
it hasn't been updated yetpielak213 wrote:
why isnt team usa appearing in wiki :@
Personally, I really like the implementation of FL since there can actually be a little strategy with swapping players *hint hint* and it being very possible to fcIf you read few pages back you will see that this year maps are gonna be harder than last year. So I expect no map to be an "easy FC" hence this whole discussion is out of place.
If any of the players choose FL it will be for lulz I guess.
So it's a "let's not be serious" mod. I'm okay with this but management gets angry when people don't take it seriously, they did last year at least. Fun times.AmaiHachimitsu wrote:
Personally, I really like the implementation of FL since there can actually be a little strategy with swapping players *hint hint* and it being very possible to fcIf you read few pages back you will see that this year maps are gonna be harder than last year. So I expect no map to be an "easy FC" hence this whole discussion is out of place.
If any of the players choose FL it will be for lulz I guess.
So far in this edition it's the side of the players that have been taking it too seriously.
But I trust in their ability to let it all loose soon enough.
But I trust in their ability to let it all loose soon enough.
Please update http://osu.ppy.sh/wiki/Osu_World_Cup_2013#Participants, I really would like to know which countries have been accepted so far.
So like, does anyone know roughly when the map pool gets released publicly? Sorry if it's a stupid question I've not been around for the other owcs >w<
I hope this tournament is managed better this year than last year, especially in terms of streaming. I can see that Nyquill is one of the streamers again and as last year has taught us; his internet connection is fucking terrible and the streams were nigh-unwatchable because of it. The same goes for kingking9. I honestly have no idea why you are even accepting them as streamers because the stream is what gives OWC the most publicity and when it looks like utter shit it's not going to be fun to watch for all those THOUSANDS of people watching it.
That's just my 2 cents also I'm going to compete with my team (I didn't ask them if they are fine with competing but I'm sure it's going to work out fine, just like last year)
I also want to be a commentator because I'm lewa, bitches.
That's just my 2 cents also I'm going to compete with my team (I didn't ask them if they are fine with competing but I'm sure it's going to work out fine, just like last year)
I also want to be a commentator because I'm lewa, bitches.
Week before first round.KoiCarp wrote:
So like, does anyone know roughly when the map pool gets released publicly? Sorry if it's a stupid question I've not been around for the other owcs >w<
secondedXPJ38 wrote:
Please update http://osu.ppy.sh/wiki/Osu_World_Cup_2013#Participants, I really would like to know which countries have been accepted so far.
Hallo ich bein Jesse. lewa und ich bin die beste kommentator uberhauptthelewa wrote:
I hope this tournament is managed better this year than last year, especially in terms of streaming. I can see that Nyquill is one of the streamers again and as last year has taught us; his internet connection is fucking terrible and the streams were nigh-unwatchable because of it. The same goes for kingking9. I honestly have no idea why you are even accepting them as streamers because the stream is what gives OWC the most publicity and when it looks like utter shit it's not going to be fun to watch for all those THOUSANDS of people watching it.
That's just my 2 cents also I'm going to compete with my team (I didn't ask them if they are fine with competing but I'm sure it's going to work out fine, just like last year)
I also want to be a commentator because I'm lewa, bitches.
I think you misunderstood the problem I had last year as a streamer, and I streamed for exactly 10 minutes last year :p. Looks like someone needs to straighten out their facts.thelewa wrote:
I hope this tournament is managed better this year than last year, especially in terms of streaming. I can see that Nyquill is one of the streamers again and as last year has taught us; his internet connection is fucking terrible and the streams were nigh-unwatchable because of it.
Also
o_______oNyquill wrote:
Nice.Nyquill wrote:
thelewa wrote:
Your inability and apparent lack of intellect to operate very basic computer programs does still not spell well for your "job" as a streamerNyquill wrote:
I think you misunderstood the problem I had last year as a streamer, and I streamed for exactly 10 minutes last year :p. Looks like someone needs to straighten out their facts.
Also
also, your internet connection does not change kingking9's amazing Australian internet connection
thelewa wrote:
Your inability and apparent lack of intellect to operate very basic computer programs does still not spell well for your "job" as a streamerNyquill wrote:
I think you misunderstood the problem I had last year as a streamer, and I streamed for exactly 10 minutes last year :p. Looks like someone needs to straighten out their facts.
Also
also, your internet connection does not change kingking9's amazing Australian internet connection
Weeeeeeethelewa wrote:
I hope this tournament is managed better this year than last year, especially in terms of streaming. I can see that Nyquill is one of the streamers again and as last year has taught us; his internet connection is fucking terrible and the streams were nigh-unwatchable because of it. The same goes for kingking9.
Also, even then you seem to still not understand what the problem was last year. Maybe focus on your job and we'll focus on ours, hm?
I can commentate if you need me. Ebonics optional.
thelewa wrote:
also I'm going to compete with my team
lol yeah hahaLoctav wrote:
Due to incooperative behavior and ongoing attempts to disturb this tournament in it's organization, thelewa has been banned from all future OWCs.
This was a collective decision by OWC staff.
Was this from the owc3 thread?
pretty sure it's been voided by peppy
pretty sure it's been voided by peppy
I'm also unsure about what are the rules regarding banned players, this meaning exactly what do you have to do (or have done) to be banned from this OWC.
pero tengo una duda para jugar el torneo .....voy a jugar con la pc .. o tengo q ir a algun lado
me dicen es que soy nueva ;_;
me dicen es que soy nueva ;_;
El torneo es online y lo podés jugar de donde quieras.
When there was still just an announcement about OWC #4 I saw a line there that I understood as every player banned during OWC #3 can participate.Blue Dragon wrote:
thelewa wrote:
also I'm going to compete with my teamlol yeah hahaLoctav wrote:
Due to incooperative behavior and ongoing attempts to disturb this tournament in it's organization, thelewa has been banned from all future OWCs.
This was a collective decision by OWC staff.
I find it incredible racist how the Bahrain team isn't in pending. OWC staff confirmed for anti Arabian, the sultan has been notified.
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thelewa was late. Someone else registered before him.
oh, is this where the drama starts? *prepares popcorn*
Do you believe thelewa would not have had the chance to put up a team on his own if he wanted to play? I mean even he is that on top his things. That or he does not really keep up with hisZarerion wrote:
oh, is this where the drama starts? *prepares popcorn*
A lot of things doesn't surprise me
Soarezi
28/32 no Korea no Japan? D:
I'm guessing they didn't submit anything yet because they need to test out their players? I assume Japan, Korea and Taiwan are three countries with a lot of outstanding players so they need to see which ones are going to represent the country, dunno.
Gonna try to get in contact with some players from those countries just in case.
Gonna try to get in contact with some players from those countries just in case.
Well, I thought they will be clever enough as to register and in case change the lineup.
#edit: no China lawl, OWC #4 for Germany D:
#edit: no China lawl, OWC #4 for Germany D:
I was serious when I proposed reserving slots for such teams as Japan or Korea.
If there's no Japan, Korea, China and Taiwan then this tournament shall not exist.
If there's no Japan, Korea, China and Taiwan then this tournament shall not exist.
I guess if more than 32 teams are registered something is gonna be done, since this is a World Cup I suppose stronger teams are gonna be of a higher priority.
I strongly encourage people to choose EZ mod and FL, not for lulz, but for serious strategy that comes with it.
( http://www.twitch.tv/lokovodo/c/3092224 ) <- this is what i want in the tournament pls make it happen
( http://www.twitch.tv/lokovodo/c/3092224 ) <- this is what i want in the tournament pls make it happen
I guess if more than 32 teams are registered something is gonna be done, since this is a World Cup I suppose stronger teams are gonna be of a higher priority.I'm pretty much sure there were more than 28 applications from various countries but seems like "someone" is waiting for those 4 countries to fill the team list with them.
Without Korea and Japan it will be so not interresting ;_;
Karuta already submitted the registration form for Japan, not complete but good enough to reserve the slot.
Doesn't that go against this...Wishy wrote:
I guess if more than 32 teams are registered something is gonna be done, since this is a World Cup I suppose stronger teams are gonna be of a higher priority.
The tournament will run with a total of 32 teams. First come, first serve.
If there's no top4 teams in the game then the tournament doesn't make any sense. If I were the organizer I would reserve last 4 slots for them while they're still free.
We are all assuming things, Loctav has the final word, might aswell just wait for him. :p
Another idea would be to let these "Top 4" teams have an automatic spot in the Knockout Stage. This would give more countries a chance to compete, at least in the Group Stage. And yet another would be to increase the amount of teams to 40. This would allow five teams per group. And then the top two from each group would move on to the Knockout Stage.
But by reserving slots for teams without prior knowledge to the rest of the countries considering entering seems shady. Because then the other countries are actually rushing to apply for one of 28 spots instead of the 32 stated in the registration rules.
But by reserving slots for teams without prior knowledge to the rest of the countries considering entering seems shady. Because then the other countries are actually rushing to apply for one of 28 spots instead of the 32 stated in the registration rules.
well, they're interesting to watch. it'd be a sad thing if they won't participate in this tournament
but the tournament can still run without them
but the tournament can still run without them