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fartownik
Also nice topic avoidance.
Sephibro
btw, Occam's Razor applies to simple and obvious things only, which isn't our case
fartownik
It is your case, believe me.
Sephibro
i analyzed pros and cons of each of those 3 strategies and expressed my preferences, what's your problem?
Irreversible

Sephibro wrote:

nice edit, i was about to correct that

i've just read edit = modkill so you should rather not do it farto..
fartownik
Yeah, I know. Sorry for that. Wanted that post to look nice as a single one, didn't think someone would be that quick to read it.
Sephibro
that was a harmless edit btw
Sephibro
Blue Yoshi's last post was almost one week ago, on page 6, and he was browsing the forum some minutes ago

Also:

Sakura wrote:

Town: NoHitter, Blue Yoshi, Irreversible.
How can you townread someone who didn't talk at all?

unvote, vote: Sakura
Sakura
town read came from my reaction test.
Topic Starter
Amianki
Keep in mind that editing posts damages the integrity of the game. Refrain from editing posts even for harmless purposes and even when it won't show up.

This is an official warning. If there is evidence of post editing beyond this point, it will result in a mandatory modkill.

Prods will be sent momentarily.
Sephibro

Blue Yoshi wrote:

Sakura wrote:

Vote: Blue Yoshi
Explain por favor.
Sakura
Are you even reading the thread?
Irreversible
farto is scum anyway, so the modkill woudln't matter. :P
Sephibro

Sakura wrote:

Are you even reading the thread?
i don't think you can handle many games at once, are you sure you posted in the right one?
if you are, you should learn to read ;)
Sakura

Sakura wrote:

Rantai wrote:

I'm a little concerned at how fast that wagon formed with a lot of meta arguments being thrown around.
I'm going to comment that my reason for Scum BRBP isn't meta related, but it is true I haven't mentioned it, I probably will do so next week if people still can't tell why or how I came up with those reads.
BY was also included in the reaction test, so this applies to him as well as NH and you, apologies for not specifying.

And since when is me being in a lot of games a probelm? I can handle my current ammount.
Rantai

pieguy1372 wrote:

what is this I don't even
circular logic: Sephibro is mafia -> he's trying to set up some anti-town plan -> this -> he's mafia?
after my experience with Sakura I'm sticking to my damn playstyle of going for anyone who contradicts themselves or posts weird logic. for me I can perceive the town intent in his posts so this post seems really weird 0.0
You might want to self vote as that made absolutely no sense.

Assuming I'm even reading what you were trying to convey right: I never specifically said he's mafia, just I matched his scumpainting with scumpainting (I very specifically mentioned that intention) to make a point (ie his scumpainting attempts were annoying me so I shall do so back) while trying to make another point that his plan sucked for town.

So about that BRBP wagon (this is mostly for me and visualising my rough thoughts)

fart - Meta and pressuring NH to massclaim (?)
Sakura - mystery tactics no. 201, yet to be revealed. Please look forward to it.
Sephibro - Meta and pressure? Jumped off almost immediately later.
Irre - I don't really understand what he was trying to say in his post, please elaborate? Something about aggression.
DD - I don't think I saw any reason except to increase a wagon? (?) Jumps off the wagon immediately.

You people confuse me, though what conclusions I draw here are mostly retrospective because I missed a large chunk of time. DD's one was the strangest of the 5, I understand a NL is bad but did you even have any reasons to vote him other than "oh he's got a wagon"?
DakeDekaane
Lynches provides information to town, No Lynch gives advantage to scum even if they can't NK. I wasn't afraid too much on voting BRBP as pieguy brought some points about him. (Even if he based on meta, thing which I don't like, but I'd want to trust him for now).
NoHitter

pieguy1372 wrote:

I'm townreading BRBP atm. can't wait for your case on him ~

unvote vote: NoHItter

NoHItter wrote:

Was there really a need for you to FoS the same person twice?
what does him FoS'ing the same person twice imply?
An FoS by itself tells people that "You're suspicious of X", but not ready to vote for him yet. Many people FoS one person after the vote someone more suspicious, or like me, do it at the start before placing down their votes.
If you do FoS someone though and not vote someone, it's as if you're sitting on the fence. If that guy does turn out to be mafia while you didn't vote him, you can simply say that you FoS'd him. Essentially its like committing a vote without actually voting.
The fact that rEdo did this twice seems suspicious, like he wants to emphasize he's suspicious of Sephibro without actually voting him.

pieguy1372 wrote:

NoHItter wrote:

This is starting to be more of a discussion about preferred method of play rather than the game itself...
it's not a discussion about a method of play. it's a discussion about your intent to find scum. given your previous games, I don't see a similar town intent to find scum in this game. = =
If that were true then why was I rereading the thread and looking for questionable things? (remember what I pointed out re: rEdo?) I am scumhunting, just in a different way than my usual "big plans", because I didn't think a "big plan" was viable for this game.
pieguyn

NoHItter wrote:

If you do FoS someone though and not vote someone, it's as if you're sitting on the fence. If that guy does turn out to be mafia while you didn't vote him, you can simply say that you FoS'd him. Essentially its like committing a vote without actually voting.
wait what? so by your own logic, you FoS'ing people before voting can be counted as fencesitting?

you FoS people cause "you're not suspicious enough to make a vote on them just yet". this implies you have an intent to leave yourself the possibility to not vote

by that statement, you're leaving yourself the possibility to fencesit

can we wagon this guy plz

NoHItter wrote:

If that were true then why was I rereading the thread and looking for questionable things?
cause scum totally can't do that for towncred

Dake wrote:

I wasn't afraid too much on voting BRBP as pieguy brought some points about him. (Even if he based on meta, thing which I don't like, but I'd want to trust him for now)
wait, me? wat

Rantai wrote:

but did you even have any reasons to vote him other than "oh he's got a wagon"?
are you implying this is a bad thing?

Rantai wrote:

Assuming I'm even reading what you were trying to convey right: I never specifically said he's mafia, just I matched his scumpainting with scumpainting (I very specifically mentioned that intention) to make a point (ie his scumpainting attempts were annoying me so I shall do so back) while trying to make another point that his plan sucked for town.
no, I'm saying by saying this
Seems you ran out of steam for your half-assed anti-town plan fast and now resorting to baseless accusations.
you made an implicit assumption that he's mafia, and then you used this statement to draw the conclusion that he was mafia

Rantai wrote:

I never specifically said he's mafia, just I matched his scumpainting with scumpainting (I very specifically mentioned that intention) to make a point (ie his scumpainting attempts were annoying me so I shall do so back) while trying to make another point that his plan sucked for town.
can you link where he was scumpainting you plz? mb I just missed it 0.0

fartownik wrote:

Also nice topic avoidance.
god he did it again
not sure if that makes you more or less suspicious, cause you did it after I explicitly said that argument doesn't work 0.0

@Sephibro:

fartownik wrote:

The game is about that. A regular mafia game is not about PRs only, and you're rejecting the real way of playing it right now. PRs are a nice addition to the game, but they can't be treated as the main factor of winning it for the Town. Scum also has PRs and you don't know what they do (unless you're scum yourself, then you know what they do).

We're already past RVS so none of the lynches today will be random. We will gain information from it, it's better than No Lynch.
exactly what I wanna say again
NoHitter

pieguy1372 wrote:

NoHItter wrote:

If you do FoS someone though and not vote someone, it's as if you're sitting on the fence. If that guy does turn out to be mafia while you didn't vote him, you can simply say that you FoS'd him. Essentially its like committing a vote without actually voting.
wait what? so by your own logic, you FoS'ing people before voting can be counted as fencesitting?

you FoS people cause "you're not suspicious enough to make a vote on them just yet". this implies you have an intent to leave yourself the possibility to not vote

by that statement, you're leaving yourself the possibility to fencesit

can we wagon this guy plz
And who did I vote after I FoS'd Sephibro again? Please don't twist my words. FoS-ing is fine, but doing it twice to the same person without voting brings into question WHY someone FoS'd in the first place.

pieguy1372 wrote:

NoHItter wrote:

If that were true then why was I rereading the thread and looking for questionable things?
cause scum totally can't do that for towncred
Then please tell me what "town intent to find scum" for you is if rereading the thread and looking for questionable things is not scumhunting at all.
pieguyn

NoHItter wrote:

And who did I vote after I FoS'd Sephibro again? Please don't twist my words. FoS-ing is fine, but doing it twice to the same person without voting brings into question WHY someone FoS'd in the first place.
yeah you voted him but what if you didn't? then, by your own logic, if he flips scum you can be like "oh hey I knew there was something off about him".

NoHItter wrote:

Then please tell me what "town intent to find scum" for you is if rereading the thread and looking for questionable things is not scumhunting at all.
nice misrep, I never said it wasn't scumhunting

I just said scum can do that and/or make the claim they did that for towncred.
Rantai

pieguy1372 wrote:

are you implying this is a bad thing? So. A vote with no substantial reason and simply following the wagon is not cause for concern? I sure hope you're not implying the opposite unless you condone what is essentially sheeping.

no, I'm saying by saying this
Seems you ran out of steam for your half-assed anti-town plan fast and now resorting to baseless accusations.
you made an implicit assumption that he's mafia, and then you used this statement to draw the conclusion that he was mafia

There is no assumption of him being mafia in there, I was calling him out for 1. His ill thought out plan. 2. His anti-town plan (which it was if executed) 3. He dodged my points and simply said me and sakura for mafia.
Actually I never assumed he was mafia at all, ever. I may have implied it through the scumpainting though. The only thing I "assumed" was he didn't think his plan through at all (reiterated below anyway).

Rantai wrote:

I never specifically said he's mafia, just I matched his scumpainting with scumpainting (I very specifically mentioned that intention) to make a point (ie his scumpainting attempts were annoying me so I shall do so back) while trying to make another point that his plan sucked for town.
can you link where he was scumpainting you plz? mb I just missed it 0.0

Sephibro wrote:

It could be as you say...but are you telling this because you actually think it, or because you're afraid of that strategy?

Rantai wrote:

If you want to try to play the scumpainting game with me...
Actually my point throughout the entire thing was basically saying "this plan won't actually do anything beneficial for town" - if you notice from my early posts, I was attacked for questioning him, not me attacking him (I retaliated).
Rantai
And bolding fail, whatever.
NoHitter

pieguy1372 wrote:

NoHItter wrote:

And who did I vote after I FoS'd Sephibro again? Please don't twist my words. FoS-ing is fine, but doing it twice to the same person without voting brings into question WHY someone FoS'd in the first place.
yeah you voted him but what if you didn't? then, by your own logic, if he flips scum you can be like "oh hey I knew there was something off about him".
That's the point. FoS-ing by itself can mean fence sitting yes, but it's not enough to raise suspicion that much. It can truly be a gesture saying, "Hey I think this guy is suspicious." BUT the thing I was pointing out was that rEdo FoS'd Sephibro twice without voting him.

pieguy1372 wrote:

NoHItter wrote:

Then please tell me what "town intent to find scum" for you is if rereading the thread and looking for questionable things is not scumhunting at all.
nice misrep, I never said it wasn't scumhunting

I just said scum can do that and/or make the claim they did that for towncred.
Then please tell me what things you consider to be "town intent to find scum"
Irreversible
Rantai, I said something about agressive answer yes. Just the way he acted: 'can you even talk' is just not a really calm manner, don't you think? Also I suppose Sakura caught 2 scum in her reaction test, due to BRBP's reaction, so we should focus on them. (Sephi and BRBP themselves, Sephi and NoHitter, BRBP and NoHitter, or all (if it's possible, afaik we don't know how many scum there is,right?)

But what still bothers me is that farto even said he's scum, so he wants to get voted doesn't he? ><
Sakura

Irreversible wrote:

But what still bothers me is that farto even said he's scum, so he wants to get voted doesn't he? ><
Null tell on this context.
fartownik

pieguy1372 wrote:

fartownik wrote:

Also nice topic avoidance.
god he did it again
not sure if that makes you more or less suspicious, cause you did it after I explicitly said that argument doesn't work 0.0
what

I was referring to Sephibro pointing out my post edit instead of commenting on my status on him.
VoidnOwO
:)
Sakura

BRBP wrote:

Haven't read previous page yet. Also a prod dodge, won't be around for a day or so.
Yet you're reading stuff concerning you.
Irreversible

BRBP wrote:

Irreversible wrote:

Also I suppose Sakura caught 2 scum in her reaction test, due to BRBP's reaction, so we should focus on them.
That makes no sense at all.
You're right, I made a mistake : you MUST be involved in this scum-caught reaction thing, otherwise it wouldn't make much sense, you're right

So either NoHitter, sephibro, or both are your scumpartners, I suppose.
rEdo

NoHitter wrote:

That's the point. FoS-ing by itself can mean fence sitting yes, but it's not enough to raise suspicion that much. It can truly be a gesture saying, "Hey I think this guy is suspicious." BUT the thing I was pointing out was that rEdo FoS'd Sephibro twice without voting him.
I already responded to that - I simply forgot that I did that for the first time, and at the moment I've posted a second FoS, I wanted some more information about Sephibro. you're just drilling into this too much.

oh, and yeah.
FoS: NoHitter, Sakura

four last posts looked like you were defending from pieguy too much about that case, which irks me a lot. and Sakura isn't posting at all, she's just randomly voting with no real explanatation, not sure if busy or like Sephibro said, trying to play a cautious scum ._.
Sakura

rEdo wrote:

Sakura isn't posting at all, she's just randomly voting with no real explanatation, not sure if busy or like Sephibro said, trying to play a cautious scum ._.
Apparently BRBP isnt the only one not reading the thread.
Sephibro
again, Sakura and Rantai are the most suspect ones, followed by DD and NH, Blue Yoshi still didn't post

And Sakura, stop telling bullshit about us not reading the thread, the only interaction you had with Blue Yoshi was

Blue Yoshi wrote:

Sakura wrote:

Vote: Blue Yoshi
Explain por favor.
(p/2611149) This was Blue Yoshi's last post
Sakura
If you had been reading the thread you would know why I'm townreading Blue Yoshi.
Sephibro
cause you're scum and thus you know the identity of all the town?
Rantai

Sephibro wrote:

again, Sakura and Rantai are the most suspect ones, followed by DD and NH, Blue Yoshi still didn't post
Yet you still struggle to make a single decent case on me.

If I didn't actually believe that you were just plain dumb, I'd have thought you were mafia. (ie null atm)

@redo - If anything I'm more concerned about pieguy's tunnel vision on NH. Or it could just be me being biased about the fact that their entire back and forth started on a bloody meta argument.
Rantai

Irreversible wrote:

Rantai, I said something about agressive answer yes. Just the way he acted: 'can you even talk' is just not a really calm manner, don't you think? Also I suppose Sakura caught 2 scum in her reaction test, due to BRBP's reaction, so we should focus on them. (Sephi and BRBP themselves, Sephi and NoHitter, BRBP and NoHitter, or all (if it's possible, afaik we don't know how many scum there is,right?)
Eh I don't see how that indicates anything but I can at least see what you mean by aggression.
Sakura

Sephibro wrote:

cause you're scum and thus you know the identity of all the town?
Wow are you really that dense.

From the same post you grabbed the reads from.

Sakura wrote:

Yeah, his claim doesn't clear him like at all, but I don't think a full claim is necessary unless at L-1 with intent.

As for the results Irre's been waiting for.

Town: NoHitter, Blue Yoshi, Irreversible.

Scum: BRBP, Sephibro.

Yeah I was indeed reaction testing, i'm just gonna out the results for now and see if anyone can tell how I got those results.
Sephibro
that result came ONLY from that post that i've already posted and linked, Sakura.
first scum found already i guess
Sakura
Ok so Sephibro's eating a satoshi bat to the skull tonight (scum can't read), just gonna ignore him and focus on BRBP
pieguyn

NoHItter wrote:

Then please tell me what things you consider to be "town intent to find scum"
are you implying actions determine intent? cause it's the other way around, intent determines actions

Rantai wrote:

So. A vote with no substantial reason and simply following the wagon is not cause for concern? I sure hope you're not implying the opposite unless you condone what is essentially sheeping.
sometimes just jumping on a bandwagon to add pressure is a good idea

Rantai wrote:

@redo - If anything I'm more concerned about pieguy's tunnel vision on NH. Or it could just be me being biased about the fact that their entire back and forth started on a bloody meta argument.
you're just mad cause I'm starting to push on you too ~

Rantai wrote:

I may have implied it through the scumpainting though
yeah that's what I mean
but seems you did it on purpose @_@ ok then.

fartownik wrote:

I was referring to Sephibro pointing out my post edit instead of commenting on my status on him.
oh sry

Irreversible wrote:

Also I suppose Sakura caught 2 scum in her reaction test, due to BRBP's reaction, so we should focus on them. (Sephi and BRBP themselves, Sephi and NoHitter, BRBP and NoHitter, or all (if it's possible, afaik we don't know how many scum there is,right?)
wait, what? Sakura called NH as town. she only called Sephi and BRBP as scum 0.0

Sephibro wrote:

btw BRBP's behaviour is really close to his own in Information Mafia, where he was scum. I agree on pressuring him
what about fartownik and Rantai?

Sakura wrote:

the speed of sephibro's wagon while not alignment indicative is something I don't like.
this. even if it was just for pressure, something about that wagon just seems off for me >_<//
oh hey NH was the last one on the wagon 0.0
fartownik
Rantai
Yeah, exceptional activity!
Irreversible
\o/
fartownik

Rantai wrote:

Yeah, exceptional activity!
Yo scum man.
Rantai
Serious statement, sarcasm through the roof.

Seriously where is everyone?
Sephibro
are we going to say nothing at all until deadline?

@mod: requesting a replacement for Blue Yoshi
fartownik
The people that hadn't specify their votes should do that, simple as that.
fartownik
SPECIFIED*

YOU SEE I DON'T EDIT I'M A GOOD BOY
Irreversible
can I request this modvote? or however it's called xD

@mod: vote count please
fartownik

Unofficial Votecount wrote:

[3] BRBP -- fartownik, Sakura, Irreversible
[3] Sephibro -- Zexion_Vi, NoHitter, DakeDekaane
[2] Sakura -- BlueYoshi, Sephibro
[1] NoHitter -- pieguy1372
[1] pieguy1372 -- Rantai

[0] Blue Yoshi --
[0] DakeDekaane --
[0] fartownik --
[0] Irreversible --
[0] Rantai --
[0] rEdo --
[0] Zexion_Vi --

Not Voting -- rEdo, BRBP
Deadline is at 10:30 AM CST (GMT-6) on 10/19.
Actually... the pair of Sephibro & rEdo seems overly plausible in my head at the moment.
Rantai
I don't remember voting, unless RB did.
Rantai
Oh he did.

Actually I'm going to leave it there for now, because I'm biased. (read back for the reason)
Irreversible
Okay so, I find it quite suspicious that BRBP just doesn't talk anymore just because he has 3 votes on him.
Sephibro
this is exactly how BRBP was playing Information Mafia, in which he was scum, but i didn't play any game with him where he wasn't scum so i can't say
DakeDekaane
I'm ok with a policy lynch on BRBP, BUT Sephibro doesn't like them, what to do?
Sephibro
Well I'm only one person, if 7 players want a lynch, lynch will be
Irreversible
well, since nobody is saying something.
Sephibro
too bad nobody is doing anything, silence goes always in scum's favor, as we saw on Vengeful Mafia game
Irreversible
orz
fartownik
Guyz plz do magic. If you don't want to vote someone from the most-voted right now, explain why. If you want to stay on your current vote, explain why. If you don't want to vote, explain why too.
Irreversible
Why don't you start?
fartownik
BRBP is the most-voted at the moment and I think I've explained enough why I'm voting him.
Sephibro
i moved away from the BRBP wagon because nobody else seemed willing to pressure him

unvote, vote BRBP

btw, Sakura is still my main suspect
Rantai
I haven't formed an opinion on BRBP at the moment and I was concerned on the wagon on him previously.

I am staying on pieguy because his massive tunnel based on meta is giving off a lot of alarm bells, seems like it's forced to make it look like content.
DakeDekaane
Indeed it is, but I can remember I tunneled him due that and lost, so it's a null read so far for me.
NoHitter
MOD: I'm on V/LA until the 17th. Hopefully earlier.

My PC monitor broke and I'm having trouble posting from mobile. Sorry about this.
If I can't get it fixed by then, feel free to replace.
Topic Starter
Amianki
Vote Count 1.06

A public diner isn't a good place for private discussions.

[4] BRBP -- fartownik, Sakura, Irreversible, Sephibro (L-3)
[3] Sephibro -- Zexion_Vi, NoHitter, DakeDekaane
[1] NoHitter -- pieguy1372
[1] pieguy1372 -- Rantai
[1] Sakura -- BlueYoshi

[0] Blue Yoshi --
[0] DakeDekaane --
[0] fartownik --
[0] Irreversible --
[0] Rantai --
[0] rEdo --
[0] Zexion_Vi --

Not Voting -- rEdo, BRBP
Deadline is at 10:30 AM CST (GMT-6) on 10/19.

NoHitter is V/LA until Oct. 17.
Searching for a replacement for Blue Yoshi.
pieguyn
town: Sakura, Sephibro, Irre
null-town: DakeDekaane, fartownik, BRBP
null: everyone else
scum: NH

Irreversible wrote:

Okay so, I find it quite suspicious that BRBP just doesn't talk anymore just because he has 3 votes on him.
that's an interesting point

Sephibro wrote:

this is exactly how BRBP was playing Information Mafia, in which he was scum, but i didn't play any game with him where he wasn't scum so i can't say
answer my question

Rantai wrote:

I am staying on pieguy because his massive tunnel based on meta is giving off a lot of alarm bells, seems like it's forced to make it look like content.
can you link where I'm "tunneling"? I'm trying to pressure NH a lot but I'm not focusing on just him. = =
also, is the tunneling or the meta more important?

fartownik wrote:

Actually... the pair of Sephibro & rEdo seems overly plausible in my head at the moment.
can you explain why rEdo plz? you weren't even mentioning him anywhere before o.o

and I blame the long deadlines for the lack of activity. my game with only 4 days for each game day was like one of the most active games with only 12 players and 4 game days 0.0 and it seems the longer the deadline (Information Mafia, Newbie 9, etc.) the less active the game.

unvote vote: BRBP
I'm tentatively townreading him atm but mb it's a good idea to add pressure to see if we can get something. also this is L - 2

I wanna lynch NH. he's acting really weird plus I'm getting all sorts of weird vibes from the Sephibro wagon, which he was incidentally the last one on. @_@ besides that, I'm fine with anyone who's under "null" or "scum" above.
VoidnOwO
:)
pieguyn

BRBP wrote:

Won't work. I refuse to let scum get a 1-by-1 massclaim by bringing everyone close to a lynch with just lazy pressure votes. Make a real case and try again.
nah I wasn't referring to a claim, I was referring to a possible suspicious action that you might do if you get pressured

stuff like this is why I had a townread on you in the first place though. unvote

vote: NoHItter
wanna lynch NH with me? ~
Topic Starter
Amianki
GuyInFreezer replaces Blue Yoshi effective immediately.
GuyInFreezer
Do I need to read this or no
Sephibro
I guess you do
GuyInFreezer
Page 7.
omg ppl are actually using FoS.
GuyInFreezer
pg 12.
Seph is painfully town after that flavor claim.
Dake is prob town after being a huge lurksack in that mini game.
pieguy's posts is irking me for some reason.
Irre is... being irre I guess.
NH looks town a bit.

ppl I haven't mentioned so far are
1) Their posts didn't really look standing out.
2) Null
Sephibro

BRBP wrote:

Sephibro wrote:

this is exactly how BRBP was playing Information Mafia, in which he was scum, but i didn't play any game with him where he wasn't scum so i can't say

Sephibro 3 days ago wrote:

btw BRBP's behaviour is really close to his own in Information Mafia, where he was scum. I agree on pressuring him
unvote, vote BRBP
What changed your mind about relying on meta? :roll:
nothing changed, i said the same thing in the two post. I think there are people who are scummier than you atm (read the last part of the second post), but since people are pressuring you now there is still a good case to pressuring you, and that's why i voted you the second time and not the first one. Also, i had already voted you before

pieguy1372 wrote:

unvote

vote: NoHItter
wanna lynch NH with me? ~
I find it useless to vote him when he's on V/LA, since he probably won't be able to read and answer. It's just a waste of time and it would be very anti town to lynch him preventing him to talk more. There's actually no point in voting him right now. Regarding your previous question, i prefer not to answer for now ;)
GuyInFreezer
Where's Mion
GuyInFreezer
I don't need a full roleclaim. I just wanna know who's Mion.
Sephibro

Blue Yoshi wrote:

Mion? Is that you?
Clearly flavor is more involved than how farto and Rantai want us to believe
Sephibro
This game is getting more interesting, i love you gif
Sephibro

Sephibro wrote:

Clearly flavor is more involved than how farto and Rantai want us to believe
NH too, if i remember well
Irreversible

GuyInFreezer wrote:

Irre is... being irre I guess.
LOL xD
GuyInFreezer
Also Sakura's reaction test sucks.
But that's not alignment-indicative.
Zexion
I've just changed my username, maybe the mod could change the first post and stuff?

I've read the thread about two times but I still can't convince myself to vote somebody. My vote on Sephibro is kinda sheeping so I'd rather change it. Tbh, don't know what to think or who to vote. I find BRBP suspicious but I dont' really have anything to make a case lol.

Unvote
Vote: No-Lynch
GuyInFreezer

Zexion wrote:

I've just changed my username, maybe the mod could change the first post and stuff?

I've read the thread about two times but I still can't convince myself to vote somebody. My vote on Sephibro is kinda sheeping so I'd rather change it. Tbh, don't know what to think or who to vote. I find BRBP suspicious but I dont' really have anything to make a case lol.

Unvote
Vote: No-Lynch
Sephibro
now in my top5
NH > Rantai > farto > Sakura > BRBP , DD follows

How about a mass nameclaim? not a fullclaim
does anybody think it would be useful? yes - why? no - why?
DakeDekaane
pieguy actually doesn't look so town after voting BRBP when he thinks he's town, what did you expect to get from his lynch?

If BRBP gets lynched and flips town I'm going to pressure so hard on people that based on meta.

wow, dat No Lynch vote

And also I think it's a bit late for a massclaim, scum would have their fakeclaims ready based on the character list you posted before. Things could've been different if you haven't done it.
fartownik
So I'm suddenly in your top5 (top3), huh. That's interesting.

To pieguy: I thought Sephibro + rEdo was exceptionally plausible because of the votecount. It just hit me straight in the head. Sephibro was being pressured with 5 votes on him, he had to get the attention on someone else, he picked on Sakura then. rEdo's FoS on Sakura was rather convenient, and obviously he had to put another FoS on someone else not to have a single one just on her. I find both weak tbh.

The fact that I read Sakura as Town helps here too.

To Zexion: You should ask for a replacement, because what you're doing right now will only get you lynched (and if you're Town it's not gonna be good).

To GuyInFreezer: Why you wanna know who's Mion (perhaps you're Shion?)? I doubt anyone will ever claim his character just because you jump off with a sudden urge to know it.

To BRBP: There we go. You use your little attacks to make your story more believable, just as always. I was your scumpartner once (or twice? don't really remember), I know your scumplay, it just looks like it. Also if you don't wanna play this game, don't do it. I don't have much time either, but gotta find a moment to write here. You're simply being anti-town for not doing that.
GuyInFreezer
Because I'm Mion's unlyncher.
And flavor is Oryou. (I don't even know who Shion is)
fartownik
EBWOP: ^ The first sentence was directed to Sephibro.
Irreversible
I don't think nameclaim would be useful, isn't it said that names doesnt affect the role?
fartownik

GuyInFreezer wrote:

Because I'm Mion's unlyncher.
And flavor is Oryou. (I don't even know who Shion is)
I don't see why a Townie would like to claim his character just for a third party to know it.

Sephibro wrote:

now in my top5
NH > Rantai > farto > Sakura > BRBP , DD follows

How about a mass nameclaim? not a fullclaim
does anybody think it would be useful? yes - why? no - why?
This is a horrible fucking idea. Again.

First you say you want to avoid massclaim, later you propose one. Claiming names has virtually no advantages for Town as every role can be any alignment. It's only good for scum for trying to guess the potential roles by the character, and that's what you're doing from the beginning of the game (oh uh ah).
GuyInFreezer
Because Mion is guaranteed to not die.
My wincon is to survive with Mion.
GuyInFreezer
Once I know who Mion is, I mean.
DakeDekaane
Nope, character affect the role but not the alignment.
DakeDekaane
My post above was directed at Irre.
Zexion

fartownik wrote:

To Zexion: You should ask for a replacement, because what you're doing right now will only get you lynched (and if you're Town it's not gonna be good).
TBH, that's a great idea. I can't keep up with this game with all my exams anyways... terribly sorry for wasting your time and this spot guys :c

Requesting Replacement.
Topic Starter
Amianki
Zexion is being replaced.
fartownik

GuyInFreezer wrote:

Because Mion is guaranteed to not die.
My wincon is to survive with Mion.
Not to die from a lynch. And that's not even guaranteed since you have just one vote and one voice. The person that's Mion will most likely be nightkilled after it claims since the Unlynchee is usually Town.
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