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Sakura

Sephibro wrote:

cause you're scum and thus you know the identity of all the town?
Wow are you really that dense.

From the same post you grabbed the reads from.

Sakura wrote:

Yeah, his claim doesn't clear him like at all, but I don't think a full claim is necessary unless at L-1 with intent.

As for the results Irre's been waiting for.

Town: NoHitter, Blue Yoshi, Irreversible.

Scum: BRBP, Sephibro.

Yeah I was indeed reaction testing, i'm just gonna out the results for now and see if anyone can tell how I got those results.
Sephibro
that result came ONLY from that post that i've already posted and linked, Sakura.
first scum found already i guess
Sakura
Ok so Sephibro's eating a satoshi bat to the skull tonight (scum can't read), just gonna ignore him and focus on BRBP
pieguyn

NoHItter wrote:

Then please tell me what things you consider to be "town intent to find scum"
are you implying actions determine intent? cause it's the other way around, intent determines actions

Rantai wrote:

So. A vote with no substantial reason and simply following the wagon is not cause for concern? I sure hope you're not implying the opposite unless you condone what is essentially sheeping.
sometimes just jumping on a bandwagon to add pressure is a good idea

Rantai wrote:

@redo - If anything I'm more concerned about pieguy's tunnel vision on NH. Or it could just be me being biased about the fact that their entire back and forth started on a bloody meta argument.
you're just mad cause I'm starting to push on you too ~

Rantai wrote:

I may have implied it through the scumpainting though
yeah that's what I mean
but seems you did it on purpose @_@ ok then.

fartownik wrote:

I was referring to Sephibro pointing out my post edit instead of commenting on my status on him.
oh sry

Irreversible wrote:

Also I suppose Sakura caught 2 scum in her reaction test, due to BRBP's reaction, so we should focus on them. (Sephi and BRBP themselves, Sephi and NoHitter, BRBP and NoHitter, or all (if it's possible, afaik we don't know how many scum there is,right?)
wait, what? Sakura called NH as town. she only called Sephi and BRBP as scum 0.0

Sephibro wrote:

btw BRBP's behaviour is really close to his own in Information Mafia, where he was scum. I agree on pressuring him
what about fartownik and Rantai?

Sakura wrote:

the speed of sephibro's wagon while not alignment indicative is something I don't like.
this. even if it was just for pressure, something about that wagon just seems off for me >_<//
oh hey NH was the last one on the wagon 0.0
fartownik
Rantai
Yeah, exceptional activity!
Irreversible
\o/
fartownik

Rantai wrote:

Yeah, exceptional activity!
Yo scum man.
Rantai
Serious statement, sarcasm through the roof.

Seriously where is everyone?
Sephibro
are we going to say nothing at all until deadline?

@mod: requesting a replacement for Blue Yoshi
fartownik
The people that hadn't specify their votes should do that, simple as that.
fartownik
SPECIFIED*

YOU SEE I DON'T EDIT I'M A GOOD BOY
Irreversible
can I request this modvote? or however it's called xD

@mod: vote count please
fartownik

Unofficial Votecount wrote:

[3] BRBP -- fartownik, Sakura, Irreversible
[3] Sephibro -- Zexion_Vi, NoHitter, DakeDekaane
[2] Sakura -- BlueYoshi, Sephibro
[1] NoHitter -- pieguy1372
[1] pieguy1372 -- Rantai

[0] Blue Yoshi --
[0] DakeDekaane --
[0] fartownik --
[0] Irreversible --
[0] Rantai --
[0] rEdo --
[0] Zexion_Vi --

Not Voting -- rEdo, BRBP
Deadline is at 10:30 AM CST (GMT-6) on 10/19.
Actually... the pair of Sephibro & rEdo seems overly plausible in my head at the moment.
Rantai
I don't remember voting, unless RB did.
Rantai
Oh he did.

Actually I'm going to leave it there for now, because I'm biased. (read back for the reason)
Irreversible
Okay so, I find it quite suspicious that BRBP just doesn't talk anymore just because he has 3 votes on him.
Sephibro
this is exactly how BRBP was playing Information Mafia, in which he was scum, but i didn't play any game with him where he wasn't scum so i can't say
DakeDekaane
I'm ok with a policy lynch on BRBP, BUT Sephibro doesn't like them, what to do?
Sephibro
Well I'm only one person, if 7 players want a lynch, lynch will be
Irreversible
well, since nobody is saying something.
Sephibro
too bad nobody is doing anything, silence goes always in scum's favor, as we saw on Vengeful Mafia game
Irreversible
orz
fartownik
Guyz plz do magic. If you don't want to vote someone from the most-voted right now, explain why. If you want to stay on your current vote, explain why. If you don't want to vote, explain why too.
Irreversible
Why don't you start?
fartownik
BRBP is the most-voted at the moment and I think I've explained enough why I'm voting him.
Sephibro
i moved away from the BRBP wagon because nobody else seemed willing to pressure him

unvote, vote BRBP

btw, Sakura is still my main suspect
Rantai
I haven't formed an opinion on BRBP at the moment and I was concerned on the wagon on him previously.

I am staying on pieguy because his massive tunnel based on meta is giving off a lot of alarm bells, seems like it's forced to make it look like content.
DakeDekaane
Indeed it is, but I can remember I tunneled him due that and lost, so it's a null read so far for me.
NoHitter
MOD: I'm on V/LA until the 17th. Hopefully earlier.

My PC monitor broke and I'm having trouble posting from mobile. Sorry about this.
If I can't get it fixed by then, feel free to replace.
Topic Starter
Amianki
Vote Count 1.06

A public diner isn't a good place for private discussions.

[4] BRBP -- fartownik, Sakura, Irreversible, Sephibro (L-3)
[3] Sephibro -- Zexion_Vi, NoHitter, DakeDekaane
[1] NoHitter -- pieguy1372
[1] pieguy1372 -- Rantai
[1] Sakura -- BlueYoshi

[0] Blue Yoshi --
[0] DakeDekaane --
[0] fartownik --
[0] Irreversible --
[0] Rantai --
[0] rEdo --
[0] Zexion_Vi --

Not Voting -- rEdo, BRBP
Deadline is at 10:30 AM CST (GMT-6) on 10/19.

NoHitter is V/LA until Oct. 17.
Searching for a replacement for Blue Yoshi.
pieguyn
town: Sakura, Sephibro, Irre
null-town: DakeDekaane, fartownik, BRBP
null: everyone else
scum: NH

Irreversible wrote:

Okay so, I find it quite suspicious that BRBP just doesn't talk anymore just because he has 3 votes on him.
that's an interesting point

Sephibro wrote:

this is exactly how BRBP was playing Information Mafia, in which he was scum, but i didn't play any game with him where he wasn't scum so i can't say
answer my question

Rantai wrote:

I am staying on pieguy because his massive tunnel based on meta is giving off a lot of alarm bells, seems like it's forced to make it look like content.
can you link where I'm "tunneling"? I'm trying to pressure NH a lot but I'm not focusing on just him. = =
also, is the tunneling or the meta more important?

fartownik wrote:

Actually... the pair of Sephibro & rEdo seems overly plausible in my head at the moment.
can you explain why rEdo plz? you weren't even mentioning him anywhere before o.o

and I blame the long deadlines for the lack of activity. my game with only 4 days for each game day was like one of the most active games with only 12 players and 4 game days 0.0 and it seems the longer the deadline (Information Mafia, Newbie 9, etc.) the less active the game.

unvote vote: BRBP
I'm tentatively townreading him atm but mb it's a good idea to add pressure to see if we can get something. also this is L - 2

I wanna lynch NH. he's acting really weird plus I'm getting all sorts of weird vibes from the Sephibro wagon, which he was incidentally the last one on. @_@ besides that, I'm fine with anyone who's under "null" or "scum" above.
VoidnOwO
:)
pieguyn

BRBP wrote:

Won't work. I refuse to let scum get a 1-by-1 massclaim by bringing everyone close to a lynch with just lazy pressure votes. Make a real case and try again.
nah I wasn't referring to a claim, I was referring to a possible suspicious action that you might do if you get pressured

stuff like this is why I had a townread on you in the first place though. unvote

vote: NoHItter
wanna lynch NH with me? ~
Topic Starter
Amianki
GuyInFreezer replaces Blue Yoshi effective immediately.
GuyInFreezer
Do I need to read this or no
Sephibro
I guess you do
GuyInFreezer
Page 7.
omg ppl are actually using FoS.
GuyInFreezer
pg 12.
Seph is painfully town after that flavor claim.
Dake is prob town after being a huge lurksack in that mini game.
pieguy's posts is irking me for some reason.
Irre is... being irre I guess.
NH looks town a bit.

ppl I haven't mentioned so far are
1) Their posts didn't really look standing out.
2) Null
Sephibro

BRBP wrote:

Sephibro wrote:

this is exactly how BRBP was playing Information Mafia, in which he was scum, but i didn't play any game with him where he wasn't scum so i can't say

Sephibro 3 days ago wrote:

btw BRBP's behaviour is really close to his own in Information Mafia, where he was scum. I agree on pressuring him
unvote, vote BRBP
What changed your mind about relying on meta? :roll:
nothing changed, i said the same thing in the two post. I think there are people who are scummier than you atm (read the last part of the second post), but since people are pressuring you now there is still a good case to pressuring you, and that's why i voted you the second time and not the first one. Also, i had already voted you before

pieguy1372 wrote:

unvote

vote: NoHItter
wanna lynch NH with me? ~
I find it useless to vote him when he's on V/LA, since he probably won't be able to read and answer. It's just a waste of time and it would be very anti town to lynch him preventing him to talk more. There's actually no point in voting him right now. Regarding your previous question, i prefer not to answer for now ;)
GuyInFreezer
Where's Mion
GuyInFreezer
I don't need a full roleclaim. I just wanna know who's Mion.
Sephibro

Blue Yoshi wrote:

Mion? Is that you?
Clearly flavor is more involved than how farto and Rantai want us to believe
Sephibro
This game is getting more interesting, i love you gif
Sephibro

Sephibro wrote:

Clearly flavor is more involved than how farto and Rantai want us to believe
NH too, if i remember well
Irreversible

GuyInFreezer wrote:

Irre is... being irre I guess.
LOL xD
GuyInFreezer
Also Sakura's reaction test sucks.
But that's not alignment-indicative.
Zexion
I've just changed my username, maybe the mod could change the first post and stuff?

I've read the thread about two times but I still can't convince myself to vote somebody. My vote on Sephibro is kinda sheeping so I'd rather change it. Tbh, don't know what to think or who to vote. I find BRBP suspicious but I dont' really have anything to make a case lol.

Unvote
Vote: No-Lynch
GuyInFreezer

Zexion wrote:

I've just changed my username, maybe the mod could change the first post and stuff?

I've read the thread about two times but I still can't convince myself to vote somebody. My vote on Sephibro is kinda sheeping so I'd rather change it. Tbh, don't know what to think or who to vote. I find BRBP suspicious but I dont' really have anything to make a case lol.

Unvote
Vote: No-Lynch
Sephibro
now in my top5
NH > Rantai > farto > Sakura > BRBP , DD follows

How about a mass nameclaim? not a fullclaim
does anybody think it would be useful? yes - why? no - why?
DakeDekaane
pieguy actually doesn't look so town after voting BRBP when he thinks he's town, what did you expect to get from his lynch?

If BRBP gets lynched and flips town I'm going to pressure so hard on people that based on meta.

wow, dat No Lynch vote

And also I think it's a bit late for a massclaim, scum would have their fakeclaims ready based on the character list you posted before. Things could've been different if you haven't done it.
fartownik
So I'm suddenly in your top5 (top3), huh. That's interesting.

To pieguy: I thought Sephibro + rEdo was exceptionally plausible because of the votecount. It just hit me straight in the head. Sephibro was being pressured with 5 votes on him, he had to get the attention on someone else, he picked on Sakura then. rEdo's FoS on Sakura was rather convenient, and obviously he had to put another FoS on someone else not to have a single one just on her. I find both weak tbh.

The fact that I read Sakura as Town helps here too.

To Zexion: You should ask for a replacement, because what you're doing right now will only get you lynched (and if you're Town it's not gonna be good).

To GuyInFreezer: Why you wanna know who's Mion (perhaps you're Shion?)? I doubt anyone will ever claim his character just because you jump off with a sudden urge to know it.

To BRBP: There we go. You use your little attacks to make your story more believable, just as always. I was your scumpartner once (or twice? don't really remember), I know your scumplay, it just looks like it. Also if you don't wanna play this game, don't do it. I don't have much time either, but gotta find a moment to write here. You're simply being anti-town for not doing that.
GuyInFreezer
Because I'm Mion's unlyncher.
And flavor is Oryou. (I don't even know who Shion is)
fartownik
EBWOP: ^ The first sentence was directed to Sephibro.
Irreversible
I don't think nameclaim would be useful, isn't it said that names doesnt affect the role?
fartownik

GuyInFreezer wrote:

Because I'm Mion's unlyncher.
And flavor is Oryou. (I don't even know who Shion is)
I don't see why a Townie would like to claim his character just for a third party to know it.

Sephibro wrote:

now in my top5
NH > Rantai > farto > Sakura > BRBP , DD follows

How about a mass nameclaim? not a fullclaim
does anybody think it would be useful? yes - why? no - why?
This is a horrible fucking idea. Again.

First you say you want to avoid massclaim, later you propose one. Claiming names has virtually no advantages for Town as every role can be any alignment. It's only good for scum for trying to guess the potential roles by the character, and that's what you're doing from the beginning of the game (oh uh ah).
GuyInFreezer
Because Mion is guaranteed to not die.
My wincon is to survive with Mion.
GuyInFreezer
Once I know who Mion is, I mean.
DakeDekaane
Nope, character affect the role but not the alignment.
DakeDekaane
My post above was directed at Irre.
Zexion

fartownik wrote:

To Zexion: You should ask for a replacement, because what you're doing right now will only get you lynched (and if you're Town it's not gonna be good).
TBH, that's a great idea. I can't keep up with this game with all my exams anyways... terribly sorry for wasting your time and this spot guys :c

Requesting Replacement.
Topic Starter
Amianki
Zexion is being replaced.
fartownik

GuyInFreezer wrote:

Because Mion is guaranteed to not die.
My wincon is to survive with Mion.
Not to die from a lynch. And that's not even guaranteed since you have just one vote and one voice. The person that's Mion will most likely be nightkilled after it claims since the Unlynchee is usually Town.
fartownik
We can use that though to have one confirmed Townie just for today, but accept the fact that it will most likely be dead tomorrow.
rEdo

fartownik wrote:

I thought Sephibro + rEdo was exceptionally plausible because of the votecount. It just hit me straight in the head. Sephibro was being pressured with 5 votes on him, he had to get the attention on someone else, he picked on Sakura then. rEdo's FoS on Sakura was rather convenient, and obviously he had to put another FoS on someone else not to have a single one just on her. I find both weak tbh.
me suspecting Sakura together with him is just a coincidence - I just don't like the way Sakura plays, that is suddenly popping out of nowhere with votes and suspections without a coverage.

BRBP looks rather like a frustrated townie to me than scum, but hey, I'm not certain. Sephibro is also one of my townreads (that's why I refrained from voting, just wanted to see some more content of his), I believe he simply wants to know which characters are in the game (or am I wrong? please make that clear, Sephi - why do you want to know everybody's name?).

oh well, let's see how THIS works.

Vote: Sakura
do you have anything else to say besides your funny "reaction tests" and blatantly tagging to the wagons with the most people on them?
GuyInFreezer

fartownik wrote:

GuyInFreezer wrote:

Because Mion is guaranteed to not die.
My wincon is to survive with Mion.
Not to die from a lynch. And that's not even guaranteed since you have just one vote and one voice. The person that's Mion will most likely be nightkilled after it claims since the Unlynchee is usually Town.
I used the word "unlyncher" because that's the closest thing to describe my role.
My role PM clearly says that I need to survive with Mion.
GuyInFreezer
Also what makes you think that I don't have any abilities?
GuyInFreezer
also nvm the post with a quote. I read that quoted post wrong.
fartownik
Then please specify your role further. You have to survive with Mion so you're not an Unlyncher, but a modified Survivor. Both ways you're a third party.

Also I didn't say anywhere I think you have no abilities. Btw, so you imply you can protect someone from dying during the night too?
GuyInFreezer
I don't see a need to.
Irreversible
Those names make everything even more complicate, ¬¬
fartownik
Alright, I think the player with Mion is safe to claim now. It's almost impossible that GIF is fakeclaiming his role, he claimed it right away along with the character that could've been in someone else's possession. I was considering he might be a Lyncher instead of an Unlyncher, but that doesn't fit Sonozaki Oryo flavor.

Please claim, Mion.
fartownik
^ character only obviously, don't claim the actual role (as it wasn't obvious).
Sephibro
well he would have never played like this if he was a lyncher, because we won't lynch Mion after what he said. I think we can trust gif for now
you can safely claim Mion, scum will be looking to kill town, not third party survivors
Sakura

rEdo wrote:

do you have anything else to say besides your funny "reaction tests" and blatantly tagging to the wagons with the most people on them?
Yes, how about i crack your skull with Satoshi's bat instead of Sephibro's?
GuyInFreezer
Vote: Sakura
fartownik
Perhaps she's mad with the Hinamizawa Syndrome (huehue).
Sakura

fartownik wrote:

Perhaps she's mad with the Hinamizawa Syndrome (huehue).
No, that's me crumbing.
fartownik
If she's got Satoshi's bat... hm... who might she be?
Sakura

fartownik wrote:

If she's got Satoshi's bat... hm... who might she be?
DUN DUN DUN
Sephibro
unvote, vote: Sakura

Satoshi might be an innocent Hinamizawan, but the way you're playing is all but town friendly
rEdo
not sure if trying to fakeclaim, or... oh well

Unvote

you'll prove yourself soon.
Sakura

rEdo wrote:

not sure if trying to fakeclaim, or... oh well

Unvote

you'll prove yourself soon.
I'll prove myself when the time comes, my day/night action (it can be used any phase) can only be activated until a certain something happens, also my HS level can't go down which is why i asked Seph to not bother using his ability on me, it's a drawback for a powerful "kill on any phase" ability.
Sephibro
unvote, vote BRBP

ping pong votes
Irreversible
sephi ? lol >.<
Irreversible
Reasons for your ping pong vote?
Sephibro
re-read from p/2624786
Irreversible
Well, what's Satoshis bat? is that an ability.. or how.
Sephibro
Sakura just claimed to be Satoshi, and explained her abilities
possible spoilers of the anime inside

This is Satoshi's bat. If I'm not wrong, in the anime Satoshi uses it to kill her aunt, who abuses him and his sister Hojou Satoko, when he reaches a notably high HS level
Irreversible
hm so if names can relate to ability, the aunt might reach the brothers and sisters hs?
Rantai
Sorry for the late reply.

@pieguy - Look at your iso, 12/18 posts are about NH in some fashion (not including confirmation posts). Actually reading through, why did you vote Sakura after townreading her? If it's an injoke then w/e

The fact it's tunneling is indicative of very little. But the fact it's based on something as weak as meta makes it something else completely. If you had actually based it on something solid then I wouldn't be so uncomfortable with it.

You could say the combination is what irks me, the total is greater than the sum of its parts.

What's the significance of Satoshi's bat? (no seriously, I forgot)
Rantai
To clarify I get what she claimed but where did it fit in the anime out of curiosity?
GuyInFreezer
I would unvote sakura if I knew who satoshi was.
(In fact, the flavor in general)
Sakura
for clarification I didnt claim Satoshi, I just claimed that I use Satoshi's bat to kill. But if you wanna know who I am I am Keichi Maebara.

@GiF: You're better off reading about it in wikipedia (or watching the anime, it's a pretty good one)
Sephibro
there's one thing that worries me: Blue Yoshi posted on his mafia QT the 10th October, while his last post on this game was the 6th October

Also Rantai why don't you read every post?
fartownik

Sephibro wrote:

there's one thing that worries me: Blue Yoshi posted on his mafia QT the 10th October
Excuse me?
Sephibro
Rantai

Sephibro wrote:

Also Rantai why don't you read every post?
I'm actively ignoring your stupidity.

The rest is either already been addressed to my satisfaction or I have nothing to actually contribute to.
Rantai
has*
GuyInFreezer
Unvote: Sakura
Vote: Irreversible
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