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sta - Iris [Osu|Taiko]

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ampzz
Topic Starter
ampzz
This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on Sunday, 8 December 2013 at 1:49:17 PM

Artist: sta
Title: Iris
Source: Cytus
Tags: Kousin Prologue rayark bit192 yang niangniang electronic cheesiest TKSalt
BPM: 195
Filesize: 3763kb
Play Time: 01:53
Difficulties Available:
  1. cheesiest's Normal (4.27 stars, 188 notes)
  2. Easy (3.1 stars, 127 notes)
  3. Hard (4.98 stars, 294 notes)
  4. Insane (4.9 stars, 421 notes)
  5. TK'S Muzukashii (4.78 stars, 484 notes)
  6. TK'S Oni (4.89 stars, 735 notes)
Download: sta - Iris
Information: Scores/Beatmap Listing
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Tim linked me this from Cytus; I quite liked it so here's a funky map to match it!

Iris

Artist: sta
BPM: 195
Length: 1:58
Genre: Electronic

Difficulties:
  • Easy - ampzz
    Normal - cheesiest
    Hard - ampzz
    Insane - ampzz
Difficulties by TKSalt:
  • TK'S Muzukashii
    TK'S Oni
Thanks to modders; happy30 and Garven.
Last edited by ampzz , edited 90 times in total.
Revo
78 posts
Joined April 2012
Revo
May I make the Hard Diff? If yes, you can get my diff from here
Copter-kun
399 posts
Joined February 2011
Copter-kun
Done and done!

http://puu.sh/3hGD1
ampzz
Topic Starter
ampzz

Copter-kun wrote:

Done and done!
http://puu.sh/3hGD1
Thanks as usual Copter, added to the mapset after applying hit-sounds, a few minor tweaks and adding you to the tags.

Also, to Revo, I already have someone planned to do the hard difficulty; sorry.
Revo
78 posts
Joined April 2012
Revo

ampzz wrote:

Also, to Revo, I already have someone planned to do the hard difficulty; sorry.
I thought that you still open that GD entry, but it's okay.
Still, I can practice making beatmaps~
Btw, good luck for the map!
yeahyeahyeahhh
osu! Alumni
2,850 posts
Joined December 2008
yeahyeahyeahhh
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Cartographer
94 posts
Joined November 2012
Cartographer
Awesome map!
AnreFM
781 posts
Joined September 2012
AnreFM
Heyy ampzz :D
Thanks again for everything ;.;

[Easy]
00:19:934 (3) - How about this kind of shape? http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/971057 Tne straight one plays a little bit boring for me owo
00:22:396 (3,4,1) - How about mirroring them like this? http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/971067 Looks better this way since 00:24:242 (1) - doesn't blanket anything so it feels off if it's in a different shape of 00:22:396 (3) -
00:27:934 (1) - Move the tail a bit to left to avoid overlap with 00:26:088 (3) - ?
00:34:396 (2) - Make it less curvy for better blanket with 00:33:473 (1) - ?
00:40:242 (2) - Stack it with 00:38:088 (2) - to 328/104? it feels weird if not stacked ovo
00:42:088 (2) - Make it also curvy for consistency like you did on 00:39:011 (1,2) - and 00:42:703 (1,2) - ?
00:42:703 (1) - Raise the tail so that the blanket with 00:43:934 (2) - is better
00:51:319 (1) - I think straight soesn't really fit here, with the music and the play. I'd suggest make this somewhat a curvy slider to fit with the music and since straight for this long just doesn't do it for me owo
00:57:780 (2) - Is it intentional for you to make a very curvy slider like this? If not, i'd suggest to make this cleaner for better blanket with 00:57:472 (1) -
01:31:010 (3) - Umm i suggest to remove the red dot in the 3rd and 5th dot since it kinda makes the slider not neat orz like this; http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/971104
01:45:163 (1) - How about making the same shape as 01:43:317 (1) - ? it really fits with the bass in the background music
01:48:240 (2,3,4) - The distance for 01:48:240 (2) - and 01:47:009 (1) - looked a bit cramped, how about move (2) to 272/152 and make the pattern like this? http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/971118

[Nemis's]
00:12:704 (3) - Make it curvy to blanket 00:12:242 (2) - ? the rhythm is still connected, so that plays better owo
00:44:703 (2) - Blanket 00:45:319 (3) - ? same reason as above
00:51:319 (4) - Sorry with the blankets, but how about blanket 00:50:396 (2) - better? ;.;
01:28:548 (1) - I don't really get what you're following from here to 01:35:625 (7) - (since the background music is also faint) but i suggest to at least use the same rhythm since this is normal(even the 4.5 star ones) and we don't want to confuse beginners here ouo
01:39:933 (2) - Make this more curvy for 01:39:625 (1) - ?
umm try to improve the blanket at these points; 01:43:470 (2,3) - and 01:47:163 (2,3) -

The rest of the difficulties are already perfect(even TK's Taiko diffs too)!! I can provide replays if you want :D
Sorry for the short mod, everything is too perfect to me~
Here, take my star ovo/
go rank this already
Nemis
847 posts
Joined May 2012
Nemis
SPOILER
osu file format v12

[General]
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AudioLeadIn: 3000
PreviewTime: 16858
Countdown: 0
SampleSet: Normal
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Title:Iris
TitleUnicode:Iris
Artist:sta
ArtistUnicode:sta
Creator:ampzz
Version:Nemis' Normal
Source:Cytus
Tags:Prologue rayark yang niangniang electronic Nemis TKSalt
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388,316,91010,6,0,L|336:312,1,50,0|0,3:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
300,336,91317,2,0,P|248:332|184:332,1,100,2|4,0:0|0:3,0:0:0:0:
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316,52,93625,5,0,0:0:0:0:
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236,176,94394,1,2,0:0:0:0:
264,260,94702,1,0,0:0:0:0:
352,236,95010,1,2,0:0:0:0:
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48,256,96394,1,2,2:0:0:0:
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64,64,97163,1,0,0:0:0:0:
124,132,97471,1,0,0:0:0:0:
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324,192,99317,1,4,0:2:0:0:
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116,164,108240,1,0,0:0:0:0:
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120,32,109778,1,4,0:0:0:0:
184,104,110086,1,4,0:3:0:0:
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256,192,110701,12,4,113932,0:3:0:0:
Fixed some, thanks!
YTYuyu
osu! Alumni
4,146 posts
Joined January 2011
YTYuyu
well--IRC mod on the easy ><

SPOILER
2013-09-13 14:15 Byakugan249: hey uhh about your easy diff--there should be breaks between the 1st 2 notes since it'd most likely make beginners nervous during gameplay
2013-09-13 14:16 ampzz: Hmmm, really?
2013-09-13 14:16 ampzz: smooooch has about the same gap.
2013-09-13 14:16 ampzz: Mightn't be as long but if you think so, I will.
2013-09-13 14:19 Byakugan249: 00:08:550 (1,2) - hmm...a 2/1 slider and a circle or a 3/1 slider might work since IMO the slider follows the drumroll nicely during gameplay o.o
2013-09-13 14:21 Byakugan249: 00:15:935 (2,3) - a repeat slider would seem easier since you're just holding the note instead of letting go IMO--i'll just leave the ideas here while you do your own thing, js 
2013-09-13 14:22 ampzz: (please do)
2013-09-13 14:23 Byakugan249: 00:21:473 (3,4) - use a 2/1 slider because of that hold in the vocals. that slider would follow it nicely and smoothly during gameplay
2013-09-13 14:23 ampzz: I prefer looking at blocks of text at once instead of line per time.
2013-09-13 14:23 Byakugan249: ahh ok :3
2013-09-13 14:30 Byakugan249: 00:50:857 (1) - putting notes at a 1/2 tick before a spinner feels off and uncomfortable for beginners, so try following the guitar by making this a 1/1 slider starting at 00:51:011 -
2013-09-13 14:31 Byakugan249: 00:53:780 (1,2) - the drums stand out here the most, so for this one, replace this for a circle and a slider ending at 00:54:626 - 
2013-09-13 14:31 Byakugan249: the circle would represent the drums
2013-09-13 14:32 Byakugan249: 00:57:472 (1,2) - do the same thing here for consistency if you apply the suggestion above
2013-09-13 14:32 ampzz: (After you're done could you post the logs in a post on the thread?)
2013-09-13 14:32 ampzz: Just so I don't forget. D:
2013-09-13 14:32 Byakugan249: oh? sure o.o
2013-09-13 14:33 ampzz: Thanks a bunch, means a lot to me. :3
2013-09-13 14:35 Byakugan249: 01:02:702 (3,4) - replace this for a 2/1 slider and a circle like (1,2) for symmetry and since it follows the guitar in the BGM nicely IMO
2013-09-13 14:36 Byakugan249: 01:05:164 (3,4) - you can do the same thing for consistency, or to change it up, you can do a 1/1 repeat and a circle. same reason as above
2013-09-13 14:38 Byakugan249: 01:07:318 (2,3,4) - for this one, start this pattern with a circle, followed by a 2/1 slider, and lastly another circle so that it'd look easier to follow during gameplay--also it follows the music somewhat accurately IMO
2013-09-13 14:39 Byakugan249: 01:14:702 (3) - delerte this note. you're breaking consistency with 01:11:933 (1,2) - since there's a gap in this part
2013-09-13 14:44 Byakugan249: 01:28:548 (1) - remove the NC because i feel that it'd look confusing to follow this part foe beginners during gameplay IMO
2013-09-13 14:45 Byakugan249: 01:35:471 (4,1) - replace this for a slider because i find it easier to follow than the circle during gameplay
2013-09-13 14:45 Byakugan249: 01:41:779 (4) - add a repeat on the slider--i can hear vocals in this part
2013-09-13 14:46 Byakugan249: 01:50:701 (5) - put this in the middle of (3,4) for symmetry. it'll be fun to follow as well IMO
2013-09-13 14:46 Byakugan249: and that's pretty much it
2013-09-13 14:47 ampzz: 01:50:701 (5) - Reason I didn't do that was because of overlap issues from hitburst of prior (1).
2013-09-13 14:47 ampzz: On old osu! default skin.
2013-09-13 14:47 ampzz: I test my stuff on a bunch of skins. xD
2013-09-13 14:47 Byakugan249: ohh i see 
2013-09-13 14:48 ampzz: I try to keep my easies as overlap free as possible if I can.
2013-09-13 14:48 ampzz: Thanks a bunch for this, means a lot to me.
2013-09-13 14:49 Byakugan249: np and GL
2013-09-13 14:49 ampzz: 01:08:856 (1) - Like this? xD
2013-09-13 14:49 Byakugan249: mhm :D
2013-09-13 14:49 Byakugan249: it reallt fits with the guitar
2013-09-13 14:49 Byakugan249: really*
2013-09-13 14:49 ampzz: I actually don't know what compelled me to make it.
2013-09-13 14:50 Byakugan249: ehh~ o.o
2013-09-13 14:50 ampzz: But the dips match the music as well. xD
2013-09-13 14:50 Byakugan249: haha ofc
2013-09-13 14:52 ampzz: Also, was this 00:55:165 (1) -  fine?
2013-09-13 14:52 ampzz: I was a bit iffy on it.
2013-09-13 14:52 ampzz: Considering the amount of time between the previous and future beats.
2013-09-13 14:52 Byakugan249: hmm...
2013-09-13 14:52 ampzz: Then again, it's a consistent 1/2 gap.
2013-09-13 14:52 2/1 *
2013-09-13 14:52 Byakugan249: yea i can see that o.o
2013-09-13 14:53 ampzz: Didn't want to 'not' map that dominant red.
2013-09-13 14:53 ampzz: offbeat*
2013-09-13 14:53 Byakugan249: oh! i got an idea
2013-09-13 14:54 Byakugan249: make this a 1/1 slider starting at 00:55:319--you'd follow those 2 sounds in the BGM
2013-09-13 14:54 Byakugan249: it'd be easier that way
2013-09-13 14:54 Byakugan249: to follow that is
2013-09-13 14:57 ampzz: Circle on 55:011 as well?
2013-09-13 14:57 ampzz: To help keep the rhythm coherent for the NC.
2013-09-13 14:57 Byakugan249: ahh yea forgot to mention that 
2013-09-13 14:57 Byakugan249: you're following the snare sound as well 
2013-09-13 14:58 Byakugan249: 00:56:549 (4) - is the a reason why a clap is here? o.o
2013-09-13 14:58 ampzz: It's missing the tweak on it to reduce the volume for that.
2013-09-13 14:59 ampzz: You can hear the reverberating synthesiser here.
2013-09-13 14:59 ampzz: Clap is to match that.
2013-09-13 14:59 Byakugan249: yea i can hear it
2013-09-13 15:01 ampzz: 01:02:702 (3) - Reason I had this as a 1/1 + repeat was to map that note within 01:03:010 - 
2013-09-13 15:01 ampzz: Or for an easy should it be simplified?
2013-09-13 15:02 Byakugan249: personally, i feel that it should be simplified 
2013-09-13 15:03 Byakugan249: easies are an introduction to beginners so it'd be good if you make simpler rhythms
ampzz
Topic Starter
ampzz
Byakugan249's mod

Byakugan249 wrote:

well--IRC mod on the easy ><

SPOILER
2013-09-13 14:15 Byakugan249: hey uhh about your easy diff--there should be breaks between the 1st 2 notes since it'd most likely make beginners nervous during gameplay
2013-09-13 14:16 ampzz: Hmmm, really?
2013-09-13 14:16 ampzz: smooooch has about the same gap.
2013-09-13 14:16 ampzz: Mightn't be as long but if you think so, I will.
2013-09-13 14:19 Byakugan249: 00:08:550 (1,2) - hmm...a 2/1 slider and a circle or a 3/1 slider might work since IMO the slider follows the drumroll nicely during gameplay o.o
2013-09-13 14:21 Byakugan249: 00:15:935 (2,3) - a repeat slider would seem easier since you're just holding the note instead of letting go IMO--i'll just leave the ideas here while you do your own thing, js 
2013-09-13 14:22 ampzz: (please do)
2013-09-13 14:23 Byakugan249: 00:21:473 (3,4) - use a 2/1 slider because of that hold in the vocals. that slider would follow it nicely and smoothly during gameplay
2013-09-13 14:23 ampzz: I prefer looking at blocks of text at once instead of line per time.
2013-09-13 14:23 Byakugan249: ahh ok :3
2013-09-13 14:30 Byakugan249: 00:50:857 (1) - putting notes at a 1/2 tick before a spinner feels off and uncomfortable for beginners, so try following the guitar by making this a 1/1 slider starting at 00:51:011 -
2013-09-13 14:31 Byakugan249: 00:53:780 (1,2) - the drums stand out here the most, so for this one, replace this for a circle and a slider ending at 00:54:626 - 
2013-09-13 14:31 Byakugan249: the circle would represent the drums
2013-09-13 14:32 Byakugan249: 00:57:472 (1,2) - do the same thing here for consistency if you apply the suggestion above
2013-09-13 14:32 ampzz: (After you're done could you post the logs in a post on the thread?)
2013-09-13 14:32 ampzz: Just so I don't forget. D:
2013-09-13 14:32 Byakugan249: oh? sure o.o
2013-09-13 14:33 ampzz: Thanks a bunch, means a lot to me. :3
2013-09-13 14:35 Byakugan249: 01:02:702 (3,4) - replace this for a 2/1 slider and a circle like (1,2) for symmetry and since it follows the guitar in the BGM nicely IMO
2013-09-13 14:36 Byakugan249: 01:05:164 (3,4) - you can do the same thing for consistency, or to change it up, you can do a 1/1 repeat and a circle. same reason as above
2013-09-13 14:38 Byakugan249: 01:07:318 (2,3,4) - for this one, start this pattern with a circle, followed by a 2/1 slider, and lastly another circle so that it'd look easier to follow during gameplay--also it follows the music somewhat accurately IMO
2013-09-13 14:39 Byakugan249: 01:14:702 (3) - delerte this note. you're breaking consistency with 01:11:933 (1,2) - since there's a gap in this part
2013-09-13 14:44 Byakugan249: 01:28:548 (1) - remove the NC because i feel that it'd look confusing to follow this part foe beginners during gameplay IMO
2013-09-13 14:45 Byakugan249: 01:35:471 (4,1) - replace this for a slider because i find it easier to follow than the circle during gameplay
2013-09-13 14:45 Byakugan249: 01:41:779 (4) - add a repeat on the slider--i can hear vocals in this part
2013-09-13 14:46 Byakugan249: 01:50:701 (5) - put this in the middle of (3,4) for symmetry. it'll be fun to follow as well IMO
2013-09-13 14:46 Byakugan249: and that's pretty much it
2013-09-13 14:47 ampzz: 01:50:701 (5) - Reason I didn't do that was because of overlap issues from hitburst of prior (1).
2013-09-13 14:47 ampzz: On old osu! default skin.
2013-09-13 14:47 ampzz: I test my stuff on a bunch of skins. xD
2013-09-13 14:47 Byakugan249: ohh i see 
2013-09-13 14:48 ampzz: I try to keep my easies as overlap free as possible if I can.
2013-09-13 14:48 ampzz: Thanks a bunch for this, means a lot to me.
2013-09-13 14:49 Byakugan249: np and GL
2013-09-13 14:49 ampzz: 01:08:856 (1) - Like this? xD
2013-09-13 14:49 Byakugan249: mhm :D
2013-09-13 14:49 Byakugan249: it reallt fits with the guitar
2013-09-13 14:49 Byakugan249: really*
2013-09-13 14:49 ampzz: I actually don't know what compelled me to make it.
2013-09-13 14:50 Byakugan249: ehh~ o.o
2013-09-13 14:50 ampzz: But the dips match the music as well. xD
2013-09-13 14:50 Byakugan249: haha ofc
2013-09-13 14:52 ampzz: Also, was this 00:55:165 (1) -  fine?
2013-09-13 14:52 ampzz: I was a bit iffy on it.
2013-09-13 14:52 ampzz: Considering the amount of time between the previous and future beats.
2013-09-13 14:52 Byakugan249: hmm...
2013-09-13 14:52 ampzz: Then again, it's a consistent 1/2 gap.
2013-09-13 14:52 2/1 *
2013-09-13 14:52 Byakugan249: yea i can see that o.o
2013-09-13 14:53 ampzz: Didn't want to 'not' map that dominant red.
2013-09-13 14:53 ampzz: offbeat*
2013-09-13 14:53 Byakugan249: oh! i got an idea
2013-09-13 14:54 Byakugan249: make this a 1/1 slider starting at 00:55:319--you'd follow those 2 sounds in the BGM
2013-09-13 14:54 Byakugan249: it'd be easier that way
2013-09-13 14:54 Byakugan249: to follow that is
2013-09-13 14:57 ampzz: Circle on 55:011 as well?
2013-09-13 14:57 ampzz: To help keep the rhythm coherent for the NC.
2013-09-13 14:57 Byakugan249: ahh yea forgot to mention that 
2013-09-13 14:57 Byakugan249: you're following the snare sound as well 
2013-09-13 14:58 Byakugan249: 00:56:549 (4) - is the a reason why a clap is here? o.o
2013-09-13 14:58 ampzz: It's missing the tweak on it to reduce the volume for that.
2013-09-13 14:59 ampzz: You can hear the reverberating synthesiser here.
2013-09-13 14:59 ampzz: Clap is to match that.
2013-09-13 14:59 Byakugan249: yea i can hear it
2013-09-13 15:01 ampzz: 01:02:702 (3) - Reason I had this as a 1/1 + repeat was to map that note within 01:03:010 - 
2013-09-13 15:01 ampzz: Or for an easy should it be simplified?
2013-09-13 15:02 Byakugan249: personally, i feel that it should be simplified 
2013-09-13 15:03 Byakugan249: easies are an introduction to beginners so it'd be good if you make simpler rhythms
Forgot what I did and didn't apply for this but generally I accepted almost all of this mod.
Thanks for the mod, Byakugan!
Damnae
Elite Storyboarder
640 posts
Joined July 2011
Damnae
hi!

Easy
01:51:470 (1) - start this spinner at 01:51:624 - instead ? I'll be following the drums that play here and be consistent with where the objects start in hard/insane.

Nemis' Normal
00:57:319 (1,2,3,4) - the offbeat slider right at the start to the 2x stack makes it confusing, try this instead ? https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/989302 (soft hitsound on 3's tail)
01:15:933 (6) - normal sampleset ?

Hard
00:08:550 (1,2) - blanket them ?
00:21:165 (3,4,5,6,7,8) - why are you avoiding normal hitsounds here ? the drums are still here in the song.
01:28:240 (1,2) - blanket is a bit off
00:32:396 (4,6) - It would look better if they weren't so close.
00:48:549 - add a circle here, with soft whistle ?

Insane
00:37:165 (1,2) - I guess they are so close that it makes it even more visible if the blanket isn't perfect here. I hope you know how to use this:
39,232,37165,6,2,P|148:213|99:114,1,255,2|2,0:0|2:0,0:0:0:0:
00:21:165 (3,4,5,1,2,3) - same as in hard, but that one normal hitsound already makes that part better.
00:37:780 (2) - normal sampleset with 60% volume and ...
00:37:934 (3) - ... soft clap here ?

TK'S Oni
Also it looks like the timing sections have been duplicated in this diff.
ampzz
Topic Starter
ampzz
Damnae's mod

Damnae wrote:

hi!

Easy
01:51:470 (1) - start this spinner at 01:51:624 - instead ? I'll be following the drums that play here and be consistent with where the objects start in hard/insane. - Done.

Hard
00:08:550 (1,2) - blanket them ? - Thought it already was blanketed? Adjusted it to it was less of a sharp arc.
00:21:165 (3,4,5,6,7,8) - why are you avoiding normal hitsounds here ? the drums are still here in the song. - Normal whistles are used to give life to the guitar riff synthesiser here with vocal samples being on the softs. You did remind me about one of the normal whistles I forgot to add in this section though, so thanks.
01:28:240 (1,2) - blanket is a bit off - Oops, fixed.
00:32:396 (4,6) - It would look better if they weren't so close. - Adjusted and I agree.
00:48:549 - add a circle here, with soft whistle ? - Purposefully left this out since it wasn't the rhythm that I wanted to map/focus player's attention on.

Insane
00:37:165 (1,2) - I guess they are so close that it makes it even more visible if the blanket isn't perfect here. I hope you know how to use this:
39,232,37165,6,2,P|148:213|99:114,1,255,2|2,0:0|2:0,0:0:0:0:
Still looked a little bit off so I opened up the circle a little bit more.
00:21:165 (3,4,5,1,2,3) - same as in hard, but that one normal hitsound already makes that part better. - Same as Hard with the guitar riff focusing the the normal whistles and softs used on vocal samples.
00:37:780 (2) - normal sampleset with 60% volume and ... -Same reason as above.
00:37:934 (3) - ... soft clap here ? - Went with a Normal sampleset base instead.

TK'S Oni
Also it looks like the timing sections have been duplicated in this diff. - Fixed this up myself.
Thanks for the mod Damnae!
Nemis
847 posts
Joined May 2012
Nemis
fixed everything http://puu.sh/4uu54.rar
riffy
osu! Alumni
8,060 posts
Joined December 2010
riffy
Yo! As requested by Nemis :3

[General]
  1. Your colours are nice, but they don't really fit with the BG, imo. I've faded them a bit for you, see if you like it.
    Colours

    Combo1 : 236,230,170
    Combo2 : 188,205,158
    Combo3 : 113,133,185
    Combo4 : 191,149,106
[Easy]
  1. BPM is pretty high and the diff has some 3/2 beats, it may stress players too much. Try to reduce the OD by one tick, be friendly towards beginner-players! :)
  2. 00:32:857 (2) - try to start the slider on 00:32:703 - it will fit themusic better and make your rhythm more consistent.
    Note: if you disagree, make 00:34:550 (3) - this slider shorter as well. Keep your patterns consistent :)
  3. 00:52:549 (2) - honestly, I really dislike the whistle here. Try to hitsound ticks 00:52:857 - 00:53:165 - instead. / As for slide-whistle, you can place it on 00:53:780 (1) - as you did it with 00:57:472 (1).
    Note: 01:08:856 (1) - same as above, whistle feels kinda too noisy here. Try to remove it, please!
  4. 01:12:548 (2) - nazi - tail of this slider is too close to the previous circle, it may confuse some beginners and they will probably hit the tail.
  5. 01:41:471 (3) - 01:48:855 (3) - I'm not sure, but I think that you should add new combos to these objects. It will make yourcomboing more consistent and it fits with music greatly.

    Great diff, cute patterns, nice rhythm. I like it!
[Nemis' Normal]
  1. 01:49:778 (3,4,5) - nazi - the only part of the map that bugged me during the testplay. It flows kinda strange, imo. Try to make flow a bit smoother here? example

    This diff is awesome. However, it feels kinda too hard for a [Normal], but maybe it's just me. Get more opinions, please!
[Hard]
  1. 00:22:242 (8,1) - nazi - that jump doesn't make a good flow, imo. But I can't think of anythng better, so you're free to ignore this "suggestion".
  2. 01:53:471 (5,6,7,8,9) - feels too hard. You didn't use such 1/4 before, that's why this one feels so sudden and so hard. Try to replace it with some sliders to make it more playable.

    Nothing else to say about this diff. Nicely done, sounds really good!
[Insane]
  1. 00:21:934 (1,2,3) - nazi - the triangle here seems to be a bit messy. Try to make it a bit neater. It's just a minor suggestion, but it makes this pattern much better, I think.
  2. 00:31:780 (2,3,4,5) - nazi - looks like you've placed them randomly. It made me sad during a testplay. Try to make them aligned or something. You can place them better, I know! :)
  3. 01:30:702 (4,5,6) - to be honest, I really disapprove this jumps. They are exaggerated and reflect almost nothing in music, I'd prefer to see consistent spacing here. At least ask someone else to make sure that these jumps are okay or not okay.
  4. 01:50:470 - is it overmapped? I can't hear a beat here, so probably it's better to remove a circle from this point. It'll also make your rhythm a bit more interesting, so think about it, please!

    Awesome diff!
I really liked the mapset. Every diff is nicely done, patterns are neat, hitsounds are cool. Good job, have a star! ~
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Good luck!
ampzz
Topic Starter
ampzz
-Bakari-'s mod

-Bakari- wrote:

Yo! As requested by Nemis :3

[General]
  1. Your colours are nice, but they don't really fit with the BG, imo. I've faded them a bit for you, see if you like it. - I sometimes run into problems 'reading' circles when their colours are too directly linked to a beatmap's background. Reason for the brighter shades is for playability as well.
    SPOILER

    Combo1 : 236,230,170
    Combo2 : 188,205,158
    Combo3 : 113,133,185
    Combo4 : 191,149,106
[Easy]
  1. BPM is pretty high and the diff has some 3/2 beats, it may stress players too much. Try to reduce the OD by one tick, be friendly towards beginner-players! :) - Really? The people I've had test this easy difficulty out have said it was good since it felt like a an above average in difficulty Easy, especially since it'll help train them up on 3/2 snaps as well. If anyone else tells me to though I will lower the value.
  2. 00:32:857 (2) - try to start the slider on 00:32:703 - it will fit themusic better and make your rhythm more consistent. - If I do that it undermaps a really audible drum roll in this area which I find would be a bit silly not to map.
    Note: if you disagree, make 00:34:550 (3) - this slider shorter as well. Keep your patterns consistent :) - This one was so it falls on the vocal at the end of the slider.
  3. 00:52:549 (2) - honestly, I really dislike the whistle here. Try to hitsound ticks 00:52:857 - 00:53:165 - instead. / As for slide-whistle, you can place it on 00:53:780 (1) - as you did it with 00:57:472 (1). - Missed all of this, thanks for picking it up for me!
    Note: 01:08:856 (1) - same as above, whistle feels kinda too noisy here. Try to remove it, please! - The whistle on this one I won't budge on. It's to bring the slider to 'life' with the synthesiser being used in the song. This way people can tell when they're holding onto the slider correctly.
  4. 01:12:548 (2) - nazi - tail of this slider is too close to the previous circle, it may confuse some beginners and they will probably hit the tail. - Alright then, worked this around a bit so that nothing overlaps or confuses beginners.
  5. 01:41:471 (3) - 01:48:855 (3) - I'm not sure, but I think that you should add new combos to these objects. It will make yourcomboing more consistent and it fits with music greatly. - Thanks, forgot to do this.

    Great diff, cute patterns, nice rhythm. I like it!
[Hard]
  1. 00:22:242 (8,1) - nazi - that jump doesn't make a good flow, imo. But I can't think of anythng better, so you're free to ignore this "suggestion". - It's the same sort of feeling you get from playing the vocal samples in this area into another synthesiser band. It is also like this in the Insane as I tend to map my hard difficulties so they can be a step in to what the Insane itself will play like.
  2. 01:53:471 (5,6,7,8,9) - feels too hard. You didn't use such 1/4 before, that's why this one feels so sudden and so hard. Try to replace it with some sliders to make it more playable. - Hmm, okay then. Removed the (6) and rearranged the new end so it'll still give the same feeling I wanted it to.

    Nothing else to say about this diff. Nicely done, sounds really good!
[Insane]
  1. 00:21:934 (1,2,3) - nazi - the triangle here seems to be a bit messy. Try to make it a bit neater. It's just a minor suggestion, but it makes this pattern much better, I think. - Wasn't really focusing on a triangle pattern here but more of a right to left snap pattern. I'll change it other people want it to be though.
  2. 00:31:780 (2,3,4,5) - nazi - looks like you've placed them randomly. It made me sad during a testplay. Try to make them aligned or something. You can place them better, I know! :) - It's mapped in a way so you arc from the 00:31:627 (1,2) - jump to a gradual lead in to 00:32:703 (5,6) - 's direction. Unless other people complain about it, I'll leave it as is.
  3. 01:30:702 (4,5,6) - to be honest, I really disapprove this jumps. They are exaggerated and reflect almost nothing in music, I'd prefer to see consistent spacing here. At least ask someone else to make sure that these jumps are okay or not okay. - The spacing was consistent though? Either way I reduced the spacing on these three short sliders a little bit but anything else will ruin the feeling.
  4. 01:50:470 - is it overmapped? I can't hear a beat here, so probably it's better to remove a circle from this point. It'll also make your rhythm a bit more interesting, so think about it, please! - This beat does exist and it a part of the drum roll that I was mapping to.

    Awesome diff!
I really liked the mapset. Every diff is nicely done, patterns are neat, hitsounds are cool. Good job, have a star! ~
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Good luck!
Thanks for the mod Bakari.
JUDYDANNY
1,519 posts
Joined October 2011
JUDYDANNY
hello. 　 mod time~ any reqs.
I am glad if it becomes helpful.
意見として出します。I begin mod for suggestions.
[General]

  • Timing
  1. Red line (not Inherit pervious timing) is not correct.
    00:02:089- keep.
    00:09:474- add Meter is 6/4. timing is :474, not 473
    00:16:858- remove. its unnecessary.
    00:31:627- ^
    00:45:474- add Meter is 4/4
    00:46:396- remove
    00:46:703- add Meter is 6/4
    01:01:472- keep Meter 4/4 is correct.
    01:35:933- change 3/4→6/4 .
    01:43:317- remove, it’s unnecessary.
  2. Green line
    00:31:627- remove. it’s unnecessary.
    00:49:396-^
    The firtst kiai’s end line 00:46:703- ,not 00:49:396- 少なくとも太鼓譜面はこうするべきだと思います。

    “+ ?” is I like pattern (※example→ add? , remove?)
[Muzukashii]
  1. 00:24:088 (10,11) – rem , finish
  2. 00:29:627 (40) – rem
  3. 01:41:318 (63,64) -^
  4. 00:22:088 (83) – , 01:41:164 (62) - d もし↑をremしたのであれば・・
  5. 00:16:704-ここまで似たような提案したので↑を採用したならばここもrem・・
  6. kiai部分で・・・
    00:32:550 (55) – rem
    00:34:396 (66) -^ , 00:36:242 (77) -^,
    もしこれらを削るなら00:39:934 (96) –この辺りで変化付けとして00:40:087 (97) –を削るのもいいかもしれませんね。
    00:41:780 (107,108) – either^ , 00:43:626 (118,119) -^
    少なくともkiai前半はこの方がいいと思いました。kiai後半は密度が増してるので統一するかの判断は任せます。
    これらを採用したのであれば00:38:242 (168) –とかの部分でaddして調整が必要かもしれません。

    └-----------------------------------------------------------------------------
  7. 00:52:703 (155) – add d ただ気持ち休ませてるパートな感じな気もするのでaddするなら 00:53:319 (159) –remove?
  8. 01:02:241 (9) – move to 01:02:548 (10) - , 01:03:164 (14) - rem
  9. 01:04:241 (18,19,20,21,22,23,24,25,26) – d d k rem d k k d k? ↑のと対応するならこういったのがいいかなぁ
  10. 01:35:317 (31) – k
    うん・・・mod難しかったです。
[Oni]
  1. 00:05:473 (7) - k
  2. 00:08:858 (18,19) –　00:08:935 (19) –で音がシャットされてるので・・・
    18-19をkdの形がいいと思いますが、18のdの位置にただならぬ何かを感じたので(17のkで18は少しフォローされてるので)19　をdだけでもいいと思います。
  3. 00:09:165 (22,23) – 19を変えたので22,23をkd ,or dd? 自分は1819=>dd , 22,23=> kdがいいと思いました。
  4. 00:36:780 (225,226) – dk
  5. 00:53:011 (354,355) – kk?
  6. 01:40:702 (71,72,73) -^
  7. 01:01:779 (382) – の鳴ってるシンバルを何かしらの形でアシストしていただきたい・・・ dk kdとか？
  8. 01:03:702 (399) – try to move 01:03:856 (400) – and change k
  9. 01:03:318 (395,396,397,398) – もし382のあたりをdk kdとかに変えたらkd dkとかいいかも？
  10. 01:13:933 (496,497,498,499) – は01:13:779 (495) –からの開始じゃないと合わないと思いますが。。
  11. 01:14:856 (504,505,506,507) – は01:15:010 (504) –からですかね。
    以上です！
I thank you for reading it through
Good Luck!
whymeman
osu! Alumni
3,432 posts
Joined November 2008
whymeman
The timing feels correct after 16 tests. But there's something i'll say though. The Normal diff doesn't really feel "Normal" at all. It's a bit too focused on the beats that it leaves out some simplicity needed as a standard level difficulty.

Please don't kudosu the post.
TKS
Former osu!taiko Champion: 2014
1,380 posts
Joined July 2011
TKS

JUDYDANNY wrote:

hello. 　 mod time~ any reqs.
I am glad if it becomes helpful.
意見として出します。I begin mod for suggestions.
[General]

  • Timing
  1. Red line (not Inherit pervious timing) is not correct.
    00:02:089- keep.
    00:09:474- add Meter is 6/4. timing is :474, not 473
    00:16:858- remove. its unnecessary.
    00:31:627- ^
    00:45:474- add Meter is 4/4
    00:46:396- remove
    00:46:703- add Meter is 6/4
    01:01:472- keep Meter 4/4 is correct.
    01:35:933- change 3/4→6/4 .
    01:43:317- remove, it’s unnecessary.
  2. Green line
    00:31:627- remove. it’s unnecessary.
    00:49:396-^
    The firtst kiai’s end line 00:46:703- ,not 00:49:396- 少なくとも太鼓譜面はこうするべきだと思います。 - fixed these timings.

    “+ ?” is I like pattern (※example→ add? , remove?)
[Muzukashii]
  1. 00:24:088 (10,11) – rem , finish - ok
  2. 00:29:627 (40) – rem - ^
  3. 01:41:318 (63,64) -^ -^
  4. 00:22:088 (83) – , 01:41:164 (62) - d もし↑をremしたのであれば・・ -^
  5. 00:16:704-ここまで似たような提案したので↑を採用したならばここもrem・・ -^
  6. kiai部分で・・・
    00:32:550 (55) – rem -^
    00:34:396 (66) -^ , 00:36:242 (77) -^, -^
    もしこれらを削るなら00:39:934 (96) –この辺りで変化付けとして00:40:087 (97) –を削るのもいいかもしれませんね。 -nice!
    00:41:780 (107,108) – either^ , 00:43:626 (118,119) -^
    少なくともkiai前半はこの方がいいと思いました。kiai後半は密度が増してるので統一するかの判断は任せます。
    これらを採用したのであれば00:38:242 (168) –とかの部分でaddして調整が必要かもしれません。

    └-----------------------------------------------------------------------------
  7. 00:52:703 (155) – add d ただ気持ち休ませてるパートな感じな気もするのでaddするなら 00:53:319 (159) –remove? - ok.
  8. 01:02:241 (9) – move to 01:02:548 (10) - , 01:03:164 (14) - rem -^
  9. 01:04:241 (18,19,20,21,22,23,24,25,26) – d d k rem d k k d k? ↑のと対応するならこういったのがいいかなぁ - ddkd kddk にしました(；_；)
  10. 01:35:317 (31) – k - ddkkd の方がkkを強調出来るしきれいな(無難な)形かなと感じました
    うん・・・mod難しかったです。
[Oni]
  1. 00:05:473 (7) - k - K がぼやけてしまうのでそのままで…
  2. 00:08:858 (18,19) –　00:08:935 (19) –で音がシャットされてるので・・・
    18-19をkdの形がいいと思いますが、18のdの位置にただならぬ何かを感じたので(17のkで18は少しフォローされてるので)19　をdだけでもいいと思います。
  3. 00:09:165 (22,23) – 19を変えたので22,23をkd ,or dd? 自分は1819=>dd , 22,23=> kdがいいと思いました。 - 参考にしてストリーム置き直しました！
  4. 00:36:780 (225,226) – dk - ok
  5. 00:53:011 (354,355) – kk? - ここらへんの音取りがなんかアレですね…曲が曲なせいもありますが… 周辺のパターンを少しリマップしました。
  6. 01:40:702 (71,72,73) -^
  7. 01:01:779 (382) – の鳴ってるシンバルを何かしらの形でアシストしていただきたい・・・ dk kdとか？ - 確かにシンバルは強いのですが全て1/1で鳴ってるのでフォローするとこの曲のいやらしい？リズムが台無しになってしまう気がしたのでギターとスネアだけフォローしました；＿；
  8. 01:03:702 (399) – try to move 01:03:856 (400) – and change k - 形維持したいです！ちょっとだけ周辺変えました。
  9. 01:03:318 (395,396,397,398) – もし382のあたりをdk kdとかに変えたらkd dkとかいいかも？
  10. 01:13:933 (496,497,498,499) – は01:13:779 (495) –からの開始じゃないと合わないと思いますが。。 - 少しパターン変えました！
  11. 01:14:856 (504,505,506,507) – は01:15:010 (504) –からですかね。 - ここもちょっと変えました！；；
    以上です！
I thank you for reading it through
Good Luck!
thanks for mod!

Link : https://db.tt/YIMlgAqW
D33d
1,697 posts
Joined April 2011
D33d
I should really mod this properly at some point, but I'm gonna list the correct time signatures here by request. Ignoring the 3/4 and 6/4 discrepancies, because they work exactly the same in practice... Unless you really care about how the menu pulses. The biggest reason for getting time signatures right is to aid with comboing and phrasing.

00:02:396 - If you want to get really picky, this is where the downbeat actually lands. I believe that this is also in 4/4, grouped into three-bar phrases, but it's sparse enough that 3/4 also fits.

00:09:472 - Seems to be in 3/4, but with awkward polyrhythm between the bass and kit. Either way, it lines up into the next section, so put a reset here anyway. I'm guessing that there's a fruity 7/4 bar before this, just to be an annoying dick.

00:44:550 - This is 7/4.

00:46:703 - 4/4, grouped into three-bar phrases.

The rest seems to work musically, or is so ambiguous that it really wouldn't matter which time signature was slapped over it.
Cihyaa
363 posts
Joined December 2011
Cihyaa
hi from tks's taiko mod req

[tks's muzukashii]
  1. 00:05:473 (6) - change k
  2. 00:36:704 (158) - change d
  3. 01:16:087 add k
  4. 01:48:394 (101) - change d
[tks's oni]
  1. 00:05:473 (7) - change k
  2. 01:36:471 add dにして後ろのをk
suggoimuzukashiikyoku

こういう曲あんまりmodしたことないからよくわかんなかったけどちょっとでも力になれたなら嬉しいですすすすす
ｺﾞｰｺﾞｰｿﾙﾄ
TKS
Former osu!taiko Champion: 2014
1,380 posts
Joined July 2011
TKS

Cihyaa wrote:

hi from tks's taiko mod req

[tks's muzukashii]
  1. 00:05:473 (6) - change k - 以前にも出て保留にしてたのですがとりあえずfixed.
  2. 00:36:704 (158) - change d - dkk？は自分が苦手なのでkkkの部分はddkで統一しました。
  3. 01:16:087 add k - ok.
  4. 01:48:394 (101) - change d - 既にどん！
[tks's oni]
  1. 00:05:473 (7) - change k - fixed.
  2. 01:36:471 add dにして後ろのをk - 時間がズレてる？どこかわからなかった…
suggoimuzukashiikyoku

こういう曲あんまりmodしたことないからよくわかんなかったけどちょっとでも力になれたなら嬉しいですすすすす
ｺﾞｰｺﾞｰｿﾙﾄ
thanks for mod!

update onegai shimasu! : Link
Zare
1,512 posts
Joined March 2012
Zare
So I've been told to mod give a very small overview for this. can't be called mod, really

[General]
  1. 01:36:550 - wouldn't it make sense to start the kiai at around here?
[Easy]
  1. 00:34:550 (3) - wouldn't it make more sense to make this a 1/1 slider which starts at 00:34:704 - in order to stay consistent with 00:32:858 (2) - ? Seems more fitting, too, imo, because of that raising sound on the white tick (idk what it is :p)
  2. 00:37:935 (2) - this one feels a little out of place, while others like 00:39:781 (2) - don't, because you're missing the strong beat in that spot
  3. 00:41:935 (3) - same as first suggestion (, alternatively, you can make this consistent by just changing 00:32:858 (2) - to match this one
  4. 00:51:012 (1) - I understand your train of thought, but wouldn't this be rather surprising for beginners, who'd, not knowing the map, surely expect a similar pattern on 00:50:089 - line on 00:46:396 (1,2)? I don't really know myself, this is kinda tricky to do for beginners, but how about that rhythm:
    SPOILER
    Alternatively you could delete the spinner or something. It just feels weird right now.
  5. 00:57:473 (1) - this one's really far to the left, it's almost at the border of the screen on 4:3 resolutions, it wouldn't hurt moving it a little into the center imo
  6. 01:15:012 (1,2,1) - a bit nazi, but I feel the curve of these can be improved by moving the second (1) a few px grids to the right
[cheesiest's Normal]
  1. 00:10:550 (3,4) - you know I don't really think 1/2s in a Normal are an issue, but why'd you use them when they're barely notable like here in the music but not when they're really strong like in 00:11:165 - ???
  2. 00:40:858 (1,2) - much better
  3. 00:33:473 (1) - this should totally end on 00:33:935 -
  4. 00:36:089 (2) - and this on the downbeat
  5. 00:57:473 (1,1,1) - are all these NCs necessary?
  6. 01:00:704 (1) - this slider makes absolutely no sense to me, it's skipping the downbeat and I don't even know what it's supposed to be mapped to, there's no long note in the music, only drums :<
  7. 01:08:858 (1,3) - sliderhead below slidertrack? In a Normal? really? Guideline: "Avoid covering up objects with hitbursts, slider tracks, and other objects, especially in easier difficulties."
  8. 01:41:473 (4,5,6) - i know flow has become somewhat controversial in 2013 but pls, this backflow right after the slider is pretty meh
[Hard]
  1. AR-1? Going from 5 in Normal to 8 in Hard is kinda a huge gap
  2. I don't really get your spacing, 00:09:781 (1,2,3) - this is 1.5; 00:11:012 (5,6,1) - this is 1.7; 00:12:396 (3,4,5,6,1) - this is 1.5 again
  3. 00:13:012 (6,1) - this blanket can be improved
  4. nice.
[Insane]
  1. 00:19:627 (4) - don't you want a slider here to fit the "vocals"? The redtick sldier after this doesn't really fit anyway imo
  2. 00:28:704 (5) - this 1/2 redtick slider is not good at all, change to circles?
very fun, get this ranked asap :p
cheesiest
721 posts
Joined September 2009
cheesiest

Zarerion wrote:

[cheesiest's Normal]
  1. 00:10:550 (3,4) - you know I don't really think 1/2s in a Normal are an issue, but why'd you use them when they're barely notable like here in the music but not when they're really strong like in 00:11:165 - ??? for difficulty purposes, and i feel the first one is noticable
  2. 00:40:858 (1,2) - much better
  3. 00:33:473 (1) - this should totally end on 00:33:935 - kk
  4. 00:36:089 (2) - and this on the downbeat kk
  5. 00:57:473 (1,1,1) - are all these NCs necessary? they're not
  6. 01:00:704 (1) - this slider makes absolutely no sense to me, it's skipping the downbeat and I don't even know what it's supposed to be mapped to, there's no long note in the music, only drums :< doesn't skip downbeat, it lands on it. it is a phrase marker, covering the length of that "carry over"
  7. 01:08:858 (1,3) - sliderhead below slidertrack? In a Normal? really? Guideline: "Avoid covering up objects with hitbursts, slider tracks, and other objects, especially in easier difficulties." changed
  8. 01:41:473 (4,5,6) - i know flow has become somewhat controversial in 2013 but pls, this backflow right after the slider is pretty meh umm ok tried something different

LOOK AT NEXT POST FOR DIFF ampzz
Last edited by cheesiest , edited 1 time in total.
SuperMIC
420 posts
Joined July 2011
SuperMIC
cheesiest gay

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[cheesiest's Normal]

00:36:089 (2) - This slider is pretty ugly... just make a curve?
00:47:627 (1) - The ending of this spinner really bothers me. I can hear the accentuation of its placement in the music, but it just sounds... off. Can you dampen the volume of the end? That might fix it.
00:58:550 (1) - Slider start seems (rhythmically) randomly placed. Doesn't really have anything in the music to back it up. I'd suggest shortening the slider and maing it start on the downbeat.
01:02:089 (3,4) - Spacing discrepancy? Depends on your opinion, probably would play fine as is or spaced closer.
01:08:858 (1,3) - no did u just put a sliderhead under a slider NEIN NEIN NEIN
01:44:396 (5,5,6) - It saddens me that these don't stack, but oh well.
01:48:858 (1,2,1,2) - If you could make the hitcircles after the sliders be in a perfect line, it'd improve looks and flow :o

Sorry I didn't find anything too groundbreaking, it's a clean diff. :o
cheesiest
721 posts
Joined September 2009
cheesiest

SuperMICrophone wrote:

cheesiest gay

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[cheesiest's Normal]

00:36:089 (2) - This slider is pretty ugly... just make a curve? did something else w/ zarer's mod
00:47:627 (1) - The ending of this spinner really bothers me. I can hear the accentuation of its placement in the music, but it just sounds... off. Can you dampen the volume of the end? That might fix it. 50% vol instead of 60% now
00:58:550 (1) - Slider start seems (rhythmically) randomly placed. Doesn't really have anything in the music to back it up. I'd suggest shortening the slider and maing it start on the downbeat. there's like a slight noise, so i need to put the hitsound vol a bit lower, it's audible when u remove the slider to hear the music by itself
01:02:089 (3,4) - Spacing discrepancy? Depends on your opinion, probably would play fine as is or spaced closer. imo, it's fine (patterns lol)
01:08:858 (1,3) - no did u just put a sliderhead under a slider NEIN NEIN NEIN fixed in zarer's mod
01:44:396 (5,5,6) - It saddens me that these don't stack, but oh well. ): ye same but what can u do!?!?? nada
01:48:858 (1,2,1,2) - If you could make the hitcircles after the sliders be in a perfect line, it'd improve looks and flow :o oh cool, ok done

Sorry I didn't find anything too groundbreaking, it's a clean diff. :o ty :3

http://puu.sh/5le1M.rar
ampzz
Topic Starter
ampzz
Zarerion's mod

Zarerion wrote:

So I've been told to mod give a very small overview for this. can't be called mod, really

[General]
  1. 01:36:550 - wouldn't it make sense to start the kiai at around here? - Not really, since the main chorus of this song doesn't start until where I've had the kiai placed.
[Easy]
  1. 00:34:550 (3) - wouldn't it make more sense to make this a 1/1 slider which starts at 00:34:704 - in order to stay consistent with 00:32:858 (2) - ? Seems more fitting, too, imo, because of that raising sound on the white tick (idk what it is :p)
  2. 00:37:935 (2) - this one feels a little out of place, while others like 00:39:781 (2) - don't, because you're missing the strong beat in that spot
  3. 00:41:935 (3) - same as first suggestion (, alternatively, you can make this consistent by just changing 00:32:858 (2) - to match this one
  4. 00:51:012 (1) - I understand your train of thought, but wouldn't this be rather surprising for beginners, who'd, not knowing the map, surely expect a similar pattern on 00:50:089 - line on 00:46:396 (1,2)? I don't really know myself, this is kinda tricky to do for beginners, but how about that rhythm:
    SPOILER
    Alternatively you could delete the spinner or something. It just feels weird right now.
  5. 00:57:473 (1) - this one's really far to the left, it's almost at the border of the screen on 4:3 resolutions, it wouldn't hurt moving it a little into the center imo
  6. 01:15:012 (1,2,1) - a bit nazi, but I feel the curve of these can be improved by moving the second (1) a few px grids to the right
Basically applied all of this with some other changes; forgot to comment at the time.

[Hard]
  1. AR-1? Going from 5 in Normal to 8 in Hard is kinda a huge gap - Originally I was planning to create another difficulty that would slot in between Normal-Hard which would keep the settings all consistent. Lowered to AR:7.
  2. I don't really get your spacing, 00:09:781 (1,2,3) - this is 1.5; 00:11:012 (5,6,1) - this is 1.7; 00:12:396 (3,4,5,6,1) - this is 1.5 again - Reason for this spacing increase is due to how the musical phase here expands with which I decided to visually expand the spacing to emphasise that factor.
  3. 00:13:012 (6,1) - this blanket can be improved - Done.
  4. nice.
[Insane]
  1. 00:19:627 (4) - don't you want a slider here to fit the "vocals"? The redtick sldier after this doesn't really fit anyway imo - Mapping towards the held notes with sliders being used for them.
  2. 00:28:704 (5) - this 1/2 redtick slider is not good at all, change to circles? - The offbeat slider caters towards the end of the vocal phrase here as well as the screeching sound, so unless other people comment on this it will stay..
very fun, get this ranked asap :p
Thanks for the mod.
_dog
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_dog
ircmodwithdacheese
21:08 cheesiest: hi
21:08 cheesiest: can you mod a diff? it's a 2 min normal
21:09 TheGrimOfCrazy: at some point when my time is open
21:09 TheGrimOfCrazy: i still have tro mod one of Kite's maps
21:09 cheesiest: oh
21:09 TheGrimOfCrazy: but link me the map
21:09 cheesiest: the map owner is looking for BATs soon
21:09 TheGrimOfCrazy: ok
21:09 cheesiest: http://osu.ppy.sh/s/94917
21:09 TheGrimOfCrazy: i can do an irc mod
21:09 cheesiest: ye
21:09 TheGrimOfCrazy: ok
21:10 TheGrimOfCrazy: do you think maybe tomorrow is fine i mean today is okay but idk lemme see'
21:10 TheGrimOfCrazy: yeah
21:10 cheesiest: tbh i can't say for sure
21:10 cheesiest: since i do not know ampzz's power of getting mods
21:10 cheesiest: lol
21:10 TheGrimOfCrazy: umg
21:10 TheGrimOfCrazy: you guys ampped this song
21:11 TheGrimOfCrazy: loved this song from cytus
21:11 cheesiest: (-: :-)
21:11 cheesiest: so it is a mod or n?
21:11 TheGrimOfCrazy: ok
21:12 TheGrimOfCrazy: ill do an irc mod with you right now
21:12 cheesiest: kk
21:13 *TheGrimOfCrazy is playing [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/325912 Sta - Iris [cheesiest's Normal]]
21:16 TheGrimOfCrazy: ok
21:16 cheesiest: ok
21:16 TheGrimOfCrazy: 00:22:242 (5,1,2,3) -
21:17 TheGrimOfCrazy: 00:22:089 place a slider here at the end of 4
21:17 TheGrimOfCrazy: 00:22:089
21:17 TheGrimOfCrazy: and then
21:18 TheGrimOfCrazy: end it herer 00:22:242
21:18 TheGrimOfCrazy: 00:22:242
21:18 TheGrimOfCrazy: after that place a slider on the white tick after
21:18 cheesiest: why a slider at 00:22:089
21:18 cheesiest: that makes it offbeat if it's 1/1 long
21:18 TheGrimOfCrazy: going to the next white tick
21:18 cheesiest: oh
21:18 cheesiest: ok
21:19 cheesiest: idk that seems weird
21:19 cheesiest: i could just make it 1/1 circles
21:20 TheGrimOfCrazy: do this kind of http://grab.by/s6XY
21:23 cheesiest: http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/1109593
21:23 TheGrimOfCrazy: that would make the map pretty dulll seeing as you're going with 1/2s and then it changes to 1/1 for a full 2 sections and then randomly back
21:26 cheesiest: because it's phrased that way
21:26 TheGrimOfCrazy: http://grab.by/s6Ym
21:27 cheesiest: what
21:27 cheesiest: :3
21:28 TheGrimOfCrazy: try that beat placement if you dont want to use the other one
21:28 TheGrimOfCrazy: however the spot needs to be changed and not just to plain 1/1
21:28 TheGrimOfCrazy: thats just being lazy
21:32 cheesiest: but it's not just 1/1
21:32 cheesiest: it's a mix of 1/2 and 1/1
21:32 TheGrimOfCrazy: exactly
21:32 TheGrimOfCrazy: but you just told me you wanted to change it to just 1/1 which is a no
21:33 TheGrimOfCrazy: so i gave you two options we can think of more but where it is right now is bad
21:33 TheGrimOfCrazy: i think my second option is pretty good idlk
21:36 cheesiest: i feel mine option is ebtter
21:38 TheGrimOfCrazy: ok
21:40 TheGrimOfCrazy: 00:35:319 (8) - cirtrcle here slider on red
21:40 TheGrimOfCrazy: 00:33:473 (4) - circle here slider on red
21:50 TheGrimOfCrazy: ok
21:50 cheesiest: ok w8 lol
21:52 cheesiest: kk
21:52 cheesiest: http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/1109612
21:53 TheGrimOfCrazy: ok
21:57 cheesiest: ok is that it? :3
22:02 TheGrimOfCrazy: 01:03:012 (3) - wrong distance
22:02 TheGrimOfCrazy: 01:04:858 (4) - or this one is the wrong one
22:02 TheGrimOfCrazy: idk
22:02 cheesiest: fixed first one
22:03 TheGrimOfCrazy: ok
22:04 TheGrimOfCrazy: 01:37:165 (3) - shouldn't this be a 1/1 slider?
22:08 cheesiest: http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/1109625
22:08 cheesiest: is this ok
22:10 TheGrimOfCrazy: also
22:10 TheGrimOfCrazy: remove the breaks at the start
22:11 TheGrimOfCrazy: and try this http://grab.by/s712
22:11 cheesiest: what
22:12 cheesiest: i don't get the context
22:13 cheesiest: keeping the breaks
22:13 cheesiest: to stay consistent to other diffs
22:14 cheesiest: so? done?
22:19 cheesiest: ok
22:21 cheesiest: post the log in thread
22:21 cheesiest: for kd
22:21 cheesiest: or w/e :3
22:24 TheGrimOfCrazy: done
22:24 TheGrimOfCrazy: yeah i kept going afk
22:25 TheGrimOfCrazy: which is why mod took long
Garven
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Garven
I did stuff involving time signatures. I'm also too lazy to post the savelog. Have a star.
Kite
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Kite
SPOILER
02:01 Kite: 00:12:242 (2) - stack on upcoming slider?
02:02 Kite: 00:50:318 (2,3) - actually stack that at the end maybe
02:02 Kite: 00:57:703 (2,3) - same
02:03 Kite: 01:16:856 (3) - endpoint at x301 y202 would make it look better
02:03 Kite: 00:43:935 (6) - nc 00:44:703 (2) - and here maybe
02:04 Kite: untick widescreen support on all diffs
02:06 Kite: remove osb file from folder if you dont have a storyboard
02:07 Kite: everything else looks fine
02:07 Kite: :D
02:07 ampzz: Awesome, thanks a lot Kite.

Somewhat useless mod, map is good to go imo :3
ampzz
Topic Starter
ampzz

Kite wrote:

SPOILER
02:01 Kite: 00:12:242 (2) - stack on upcoming slider? - Applied.
02:02 Kite: 00:50:318 (2,3) - actually stack that at the end maybe - This is to bring out more emphasis on the section.
02:02 Kite: 00:57:703 (2,3) - same - Same as above.
02:03 Kite: 01:16:856 (3) - endpoint at x301 y202 would make it look better - Applied.
02:03 Kite: 00:43:935 (6) - nc 00:44:703 (2) - and here maybe - Applied the first.
02:04 Kite: untick widescreen support on all diffs - Done.
02:06 Kite: remove osb file from folder if you dont have a storyboard - Done.
02:07 Kite: everything else looks fine
02:07 Kite: :D
02:07 ampzz: Awesome, thanks a lot Kite.

Somewhat useless mod, map is good to go imo :3
Thanks for the mod, Kite.
lolcubes
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lolcubes
Offset: 2.089ms BPM: 195,00 3/4
Offset: 46.704ms BPM: 195,00 3/4
Offset: 61.473ms BPM: 195,00 4/4
Offset: 95.933ms BPM: 195,00 3/4

I can't seem to figure out the "idle" part between the last two red lines, so I'm leaving it as 4/4 cause there are no "keynotes" that I can find.

[TKSalt's Oni]
  1. Slightly hard for a regular oni, only because there are too many consecutive notes without breaks. Will suggest which ones to remove.
  2. 00:32:243 (185,186) - You really don't need these notes, it's only making this much harder than it should probably be. It's a cool pattern but it doesn't really fit the music that well as there is nothing there, the note at 00:32:397 (187) - is only losing emphasis this way. Remove pls.
  3. 00:34:089 (201,202) - ^
  4. 00:35:935 (217,218) - ^
  5. 00:39:627 (252,253) - ^
  6. 00:41:474 (268,269) - ^
  7. 00:43:320 (284,285) - ^
  8. 01:06:548 (426) - I suggest you remove this just so people can read this better. It's not a very significant note anyway.
  9. 01:16:702 (522) - Same here. Also it makes 01:16:856 (523) - more emphasized which I believe it's good.
  10. 01:43:933 (93,94) - Same thing etc.
The thing is, those ddk patterns are misplaced and sound like they have focus on the first note, that's why it sounds off to me. It also makes the rhythm less interesting overall.

Didn't check the muzukashii in details yet. It's quite hard and I am not sure if the spread is fine because of that. It's like both muzukashii and oni are 9* or something. :p
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