I feel like this might have been mentioned in another feature request, at least a post but whatever, you definitely made a great post explaining this request. I think it's a good idea as long as the MATs and BATs can change it and agree on the difficulty. I'd love to see that x icon come into existence with this, or when we have a much better difficulty rating system.
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[added] [Taiko, ctb, mania] Tick the Difficulty+Extra (star-rating)
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it might be good not just at Taiko, Ctb and mania but at Osu diff too. so support~
https://osu.ppy.sh/s/73069
it's fucking messed up because it's a very low BPM (106). I'll support as soon as I get votes. (EM Oni isn't mapped yet btw)
Maybe we could make some diffs unaviable because the star rating, you know, a 1 star diff cannot be used as an insane or extra, or a 5 star diff like a easy or normal
This idea is golden.
Support !
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Maybe this feature wouldn't be bad, so I will bump it for now.
Maybe some more people have an opinion about it.
Maybe some more people have an opinion about it.
This idea is just perfect. No more confusions, no more "Kantan has a higher Star rating than futsuu wtf".
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Yes, I completely support this \o/
It's sad to see muzukashii and oni diffs marked as insane but with this we can finally put the actual difficulty
It's sad to see muzukashii and oni diffs marked as insane but with this we can finally put the actual difficulty
there is this request ._.
The other one is duplicate, because it was created one day after this one. c:
I support this. However the only way to reduce the chance of it being abused would be to make this option only accessible to BATs at the end of the map ranking process.
Uh, by the same logic difficulties can currently be abused as well, but a difficulty which is obviously as normal wont get ranked titled "insane".----- wrote:
I support this. However the only way to reduce the chance of it being abused would be to make this option only accessible to BATs at the end of the map ranking process.
This feature is useful for mapsets not aiming to get ranked as well, zero reason to enforce something as silly as that.
That's not a issue for standard mode since the star rating was made with that in mind initially (and that's the one with the most clear-cut rules out there, therefore it's hard to abuse the star rating system even if a mapper want to make an unrank mapset), but it's a different sceanrio for the other 3 modes.boat wrote:
Uh, by the same logic difficulties can currently be abused as well, but a difficulty which is obviously as normal wont get ranked titled "insane".----- wrote:
I support this. However the only way to reduce the chance of it being abused would be to make this option only accessible to BATs at the end of the map ranking process.
This feature is useful for mapsets not aiming to get ranked as well, zero reason to enforce something as silly as that.
Like what OnosakiHito said, the system doesn't exactly address the taiko rules (or other game mode rules) that well, when you can make a 200bpm map such that the difficulty is considered normal. It's not about the abuse of the system, rather than the system isn't complete to begin with.
Until we have a complete set of the rule published, I suggest that the decision of a mapset's difficulty would be judged by the BAT that's working on to get this map ranked.
theowest wrote:
I feel like this might have been mentioned in another feature request, at least a post but whatever, you definitely made a great post explaining this request. I think it's a good idea as long as the MATs and BATs can change it and agree on the difficulty. I'd love to see that x icon come into existence with this, or when we have a much better difficulty rating system.
Agree ^BrujoAzul wrote:
I Agree, this would be a great feature, but only if it was used correctly.
Also, adding Extra symbol will be like ADFSADFDFDSF, FINALLY!!! (?)
and it's a nice idea, +1
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Yes, I agree as well to your points.
Also, bump.
Also, bump.
As a CTB mapper and modder, cant agree more on this.
must be something wrong here...
Sorry I dont have a star
must be something wrong here...
Sorry I dont have a star
Topic Starter
Let's bump this.
I'm pretty sure in future we might have a star system which might regulate this better, but before this happens including this might be not bad.
Especially the "new" icon.
I'm pretty sure in future we might have a star system which might regulate this better, but before this happens including this might be not bad.
Especially the "new" icon.
Support !
Here's my invisible star.
As a mania mapper, I support this as well. While this map is intentionally easy, I haven't had anyone tell me that either the hard or the normal is to easy.
I also don't think that this needs to be a BAT only feature. Beyond the obvious uses it would have for people going for unranked maps, I don't see this being abused in anything that gets ranked. This is exactly the kind of thing modding is designed to fix, if a mapper gets it wrong.
I also don't think that this needs to be a BAT only feature. Beyond the obvious uses it would have for people going for unranked maps, I don't see this being abused in anything that gets ranked. This is exactly the kind of thing modding is designed to fix, if a mapper gets it wrong.
Support. In mania sometimes easy maps get a normal tag and normal would get a hard/insane one. It is too BPM depending because of notes per minute/second, it doesnt really give a good result like in standard osu mode.
It's often wrong in Standard too so even the Main mode would have its profit.Hanyuu wrote:
Support. In mania sometimes easy maps get a normal tag and normal would get a hard/insane one. It is too BPM depending because of notes per minute/second, it doesnt really give a good result like in standard osu mode.
Support!
I agree with this! ^^
I agree with this! ^^
I wonder why this isn't implemented yet. o.o
Topic Starter
Added text from this feature request: t/163183
Will see if I'm going to merge it in a good way.
Will see if I'm going to merge it in a good way.
Good Idea! Support~
but it's really shit.
Please, please, please, add this!
Actually like Hanyuu says, in mania, things goes extremely wrong.
Because currently 7K gets a high bonus in "star difficulty", a common 7K Normal would just become something like H or even I.
See my previous map https://osu.ppy.sh/s/92190 for an example, in this map, the 4K Normal GD is labeled as Insane, but it actually is easy enough that it is a easier-than-common 4key normal. While this is ranked before the adjustment of osu!mania stars, the extra bonus would make things worse. (And you see, the Hard is labeled I)
And I don't think that to label a map with its calculated difficulty is something absolutely true. When mappers have their own thought, and the song objectively is a potential hard map source (e.g. High BPM, DnB, 1/4+1/8 beats without any main instrumental line), the "easy" difficulty may be just as hard as something "hard" in other songs. Yeah, other music games does that, some "easy" labeled songs are extremely hard that it's already harder than most of "hard" labeled songs. Not to say that is a good idea (in mapping style), but when such maps are considered to be ranked, the diff spread saying Insane, Super Insane, Another, Black Another and Lunatic is far worser than Easy, Normal, Hard, Insane, Extra.
So support +1
Because currently 7K gets a high bonus in "star difficulty", a common 7K Normal would just become something like H or even I.
See my previous map https://osu.ppy.sh/s/92190 for an example, in this map, the 4K Normal GD is labeled as Insane, but it actually is easy enough that it is a easier-than-common 4key normal. While this is ranked before the adjustment of osu!mania stars, the extra bonus would make things worse. (And you see, the Hard is labeled I)
And I don't think that to label a map with its calculated difficulty is something absolutely true. When mappers have their own thought, and the song objectively is a potential hard map source (e.g. High BPM, DnB, 1/4+1/8 beats without any main instrumental line), the "easy" difficulty may be just as hard as something "hard" in other songs. Yeah, other music games does that, some "easy" labeled songs are extremely hard that it's already harder than most of "hard" labeled songs. Not to say that is a good idea (in mapping style), but when such maps are considered to be ranked, the diff spread saying Insane, Super Insane, Another, Black Another and Lunatic is far worser than Easy, Normal, Hard, Insane, Extra.
So support +1
On CTB it counts Salad as Insane due to the fact that you can put streams in it and it will still be for beginners, it just depends on how spread the stream is.
wtf
please add this
Cool idea.
Topic Starter
bump
seems i already had added stars to this, but I'll give more, this is an excellent idea for all modes, including standard
I guess this is really easy to implement?
And objection to "difficulty determined by an algorithm" since human should win (by experience etc.).
And objection to "difficulty determined by an algorithm" since human should win (by experience etc.).