12BARRY21 wrote:

Yo~

• Suggestion
• Extremely suggestion
• Unrankable stuff
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<General>

• Title好像是 "IMAGE -MATERIAL- (Version 0)" 吧O.o"... 後面沒全大寫?? fixed

<Insane>

• 00:17:666 (1) - 音量漸增? fixed

• 00:21:359 (1) - finish聽起來不錯~ fixed

加了的話 這邊也都加吧~

00:23:205 (3) - 00:25:051 (1) - 00:28:743 (1) - 00:30:590 (3) - 00:32:436 (1) - 00:36:128 (3) -

• 00:37:513 (5,6,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - 轉些角度如何?? 10度之類的w 前面这里想要尽量做的平整一些，所以暂时没动

• 00:43:513 (1) - 或許也用個音量漸增? 我覺得挺好~:arrow: fixed

• 00:57:358 (5) - 嘛.. 跟00:57:127 (4) - 有點太近了.. 感覺不是很好看>_>a 包好一些? http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/802484 good :>

• 02:58:743 (1,2,3,4) - 試試這樣排? http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/802590 Copy 02:58:281 (5,6,7,8) - 再 Ctrl + < 就行了 其实这里之前做了很多方案，但是想要的效果大概是直线“下台阶”的感觉，改动了一下去掉了stack但是没有按照你的方案，

• 04:23:204 (1) - 用噴泉效果? 可以有～

• 04:34:280 (1,2,3) - 這邊不要停頓如何? 就一直串下去w 打起來比較爽 x) 这里电吉他有个tricky所以专门顿了一下

• 05:52:511 (4,1) - 間距太小了 而且疊到了不太美觀<.> 改一下巴 失误……本来就不该在这里< <

• 05:54:127 (3,4) - 順序對調如何? 唔……感觉破坏flow了

• 06:01:050 (5,6,7,8) - flow不太好o.oa 06:01:627 (6) - 應該排在06:01:050 (5) - 上面會好些IMO.. http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/802560 这里整体改动了～

• 06:22:280 (1) - 最後把這轉盤改成鬼觸的節奏和排列吧!! xP 真心覺得這邊不該只用轉盤帶過\o.o/" 像這樣?--> http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/802571 这个可以有的说！

額..... 只找到這樣抱歉摟Orz 因為圖太好xD
鬼觸呀哈哈=w=... mod不能>_>a... mod時都是用75%速度來看的XoX"
加油 & GL!

bokito wrote:

Hi~sco
from群里?
其实我是个小白 不会mod的 >.< bod mod 请见谅
[Insane]
有两个slider没在线上 AIMOD告诉我的 fixed~~
00:28:051 (5) - slider后面这个note 打起来有点不顺手 往右下方向移一点我觉得会好点例如x300 y260 这个位置我觉得应该没问题～～
01:01:974 (1,2,3) - 这三个slider打起来也感觉不顺手 在紧接下一个slider的那条"\"型感觉不出来 例如这样http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/803168微小的变化 我改动了尾巴 这里是我故意做的带一点“向回跳的感觉”的效果……
01:15:243 (2) - ctrl+g
01:15:589 (3) - ^ 然后把头和01:14:897 (1) 这个尾overlap 01:15:589 (3) - 角度再高点http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/803185 想法很不错的说～改了～
01:09:589 (2,3) - 这两个是时间顺序换下？http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/803195 换完后01:09:589 (2) - 和01:09:127 (7) - overlap no~~~
01:30:589 (1) - 这个和后面那个slider之间那个"j"（翻转）的承接曲线不是很好 例如这样http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/803204 和前面那个一样专门做的这种
02:46:743 (3,4) - 往左移动一点 接起来也流畅点 okay~
03:45:358 (1,2,3,1,2,3,2,3,2,3) -顺时针吗= =?逆时针我都没反应过来 顺时针你也会转不过来的=w=
05:44:434 (5) - 角度没对好 x437 y40就差不多了 然后这个slider重描吧 不够圆滑 这个是标准的弧线slider也
顺便推销下自己的图< < remap了好多次了 有兴趣看看麽= =//
Good Luck

1. AR10 吉安帕 (话说为什么感觉默认90%dim 还没fade代码全用的color
2. 00:11:206 - 转盘音效 不得不服
3. 00:41:666 (3) - 我感觉这里空开1/2拍好一点 然后这个往右移 http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/804553
4. 00:57:704 (6) - 点不中啊 放这里怎么样.. http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/804546
5. 01:09:820 (3,4,5,6) - 这里要这样比较科学 (?) http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/804561
6. 01:14:435 (7,8) - 明显间距不够大嘛!
7. 01:16:281 (6,7,8) - 好!
8. 01:33:474 (2,3) - 你看, 没有摆到圆弧的中心, 像这样加个note就可以了 http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/804564
9. 01:57:589 (2,3,4,5,6,7) - 你看 这里很容易就按快了 放个二连跳的梗怎么样 http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/804567
10. 02:05:320 (7,8) - 你看看这样 http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/804577 原来那样感觉分组不对 (不知怎么形容..
11. 02:13:051 (1,5) - 这一段明明是1/3嘛
12. 02:13:916 (1,6) - ^
13. 02:45:243 (1) - 为什么是红线开始 0,0
14. 03:04:166 (14) - ^
15. 03:12:127 (1) - kakko e wwww
16. 03:01:051 (1) - 圆弧w http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/804588
17. 03:41:204 - 这里感觉有点往左边倾斜的感觉o.o
18. 04:18:942 (1) - 建议 http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/804590
19. 05:18:588 (5,6) - 我觉得要把这四个点构成正方形w http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/804596
20. 05:35:550 (2) - 往上移一格放到两个中间怎么样
21. 05:42:127 (3,4) - 感觉不好看, 你看看这样http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/804608
22. 06:18:473 (4) - 去掉比较好..?
23. 话说我开50%来mod了 四暗刻

1. Are you sure that you want to call it "Insane" when it's just one diff. I think a unique and creative name would be much better. I'm sure you wouldn't have trouble thinking of one that you like.
   
   
2. 00:10:282 (1) - Seems better if you don't start the volume increase until 00:12:128. That's when the music starts to increase in volume.
   
   
3. 00:17:666 (1) - Same here, seems much nicer to me if you don't start increasing volume until 00:19:513 when that new screeching sound can be heard and starts to build in volume. You could even consider breaking this spinner into two different ones with one starting when that new sound comes in. That would set it apart from the 00:10:282 (1) which could make this sections more interesting.
   
   
4. 01:17:435 (3,4,5,6,7,8) - Since the actual stream in the music doesn't start until the 7 there, I think it would be nicer if you would set the 3-6 apart from the rest of the stream. Maybe add a NC onto the 7 to mark the downbeat, or you could try placing the 3-6 at a different angle or spacing.
   
   
5. 01:27:820 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - Seems to me this would be more interesting if you used a lesser spacing for the first 8 and then increased spacing at 01:28:281 (1) when the music really increases in intensity.
   
   
6. 01:30:127 (7,8) - Are you following the strings with this big jump? If so, consider replacing 01:30:127 (7,8,9) with two 1/2 sliders instead to follow the string melody there, since you also follow it with the two 1/1 sliders at 01:30:589 (1,2).
   
   
7. 01:31:397 (4) - What's the point of the 4 being a 1/4 repeating slider that ends on the downbeat? I imagine that for some people it will be difficult to tell when to hit the 01:31:627 (5) due to AR 10 and all. How about making it a bit nicer and replacing with a triplet and a slider at 01:31:512 to follow the melody.
   
   
   
   
8. 01:31:743 (7,8,9,10,11,12) - I don't really like this pattern, it feels random to me. Can you try to make the 01:32:089 (10,11,12) be set apart from it by increasing spacing or having a jump pattern similar to 02:55:166 (7,8,9)? That would fit when the strings come back in at 01:32:089 and would make this crash at 01:32:435 much more intense.
   
   
9. 01:59:666 (3) - NC might be nice here for this 1/4 jump and to separate this stream from the 1/4 repeating sliders.
   
   
10. 02:16:743 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16) - Too much 1/4 with no movement imo. Since the music changes at 02:17:666 (9) (strings enter), try adding a NC there and making a jump. If you do so, maybe do something similar at 02:21:358 (9).
    
    
11. 02:29:204 (5) - I feel that NC is really needed to separate the 1/4 rhythm here from the 1/2 rhythms before when they are really similarly spaced.
    
    
12. 02:32:320 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16,17,18,1) - orz, The music calls for something more interesting here imo. Like a triplet at 02:32:320 and then a 1/2 rhythm. You could even make some jumping patterns in 1/2, which I feel might be more interesting than the stream here.
    
    
    Same for 02:36:012 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16) and 02:39:704 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12).
    
    
13. 02:36:012 (1,2) - Delete these? The stream doesn't start in the music until 02:36:127. Or maybe start the stream with a 1/4 repeating slider.
    
    
14. 03:00:589 (9) - NC is better to make the spacing increase more clear imo, like at 04:54:992 (8,1).
    
    
15. 03:04:166 (14) - orz again seems to me like you want to NC here judging from your patterns on other streams like 01:42:935 (7,8,1,2).
    
    
16. 03:12:127 (1) - Seems nicer if you place it so that the straight portion is parallel to the other sliders:
    
    
    
    
17. 03:19:512 (1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3) - These patterns are really unintuitive imo because it suggests that the song is in 1/3. You have combos of 3 and motion repeating every 3 notes, which means some of the time we repeat motion on a red tick, and other times on a white tick. It would fit more closely with the music if you made a pattern that had combos of 4 and the motion wasn't repeated until the 1st or 3rd beat. Just an opinion there, lots of players would find this pattern extremely confusing imo.
    
    
18. 03:38:897 (4) - It seems NC here would set this 3/4 slider phrase apart and make it more unique and readable, similar to what you do at 05:46:280 (1).
    
    
19. 03:45:358 (1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3) - Same concern as 03:19:512 (1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3).
    
    
20. 03:46:743 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - Try lining it up with the previous pattern instead of overlapping it.:
    
    
    I guess it might ruin your symmetry, but maybe you could make a jump to the stream to fix that.
    
    
21. 04:10:743 (1,2) - It seems that it might be better to switch the NC here because the speed change on the 2 is very drastic.
    
    
22. 04:15:586 (1) - This slider is the only thing I don't like in this section. Since the 04:14:064 (1) is following the piano, consider deleting the 04:15:586 (1) and just having a single circle at 04:15:586 instead. That fits the piano better, and then we don't have a sound at 04:16:186 where there is no sound in the music and the violin is still holding.
    
    
23. 04:18:942 (1) - This is soooooo awesome. :3 I hate that one slider tick though. :<
    
    
24. 05:06:127 (6) - NC to be consistent with 01:39:358 (1)?
    
    
25. 05:08:665 (6) - Looks bad imo, try lining it up with the stream.
    
    
    
    
26. 05:36:357 (6) - I feel that NC on this makes the gap in rhythm easier to understand.
    
    
27. 05:22:742 (9) - NC on the 9 seems really nice since the strings reset there.
    
    
    
    
    Hitsound stuffz

    1. 00:25:051 (1) - Finish on the head?
       
    2. 00:32:436 (1) - Finish on head?
       
    3. 00:56:435 (1) - Finish missing on head? o.o
       
    4. 01:08:897 (5) - Clap since the clapping switches to 1/4 in the music ther.
       
    5. 01:24:820 (3) - It seems you want clap on the head since you have claps in this pattern.
       
    6. 02:06:820 (5) - Maybe finish on the head instead of clap. You could also consider one on the head of the 02:06:127 (3).
       
    7. 02:14:435 (1) - Finish on the end seems nice to fit the music.
       
    8. 02:57:358 (1) - Finish on the head?
       
    9. 04:30:588 (1) - Finish seems nice.
       
    10. 05:10:280 (1) - Clap instead of finish intentional here?
        
    11. 06:11:204 (1) - Finish on the head?
        
    12. 06:24:127 (1) - Hm add finish?

Lan wings wrote:

Angelina_Rocca wrote:

留名~~

我只是求签名原图

Satellite wrote:

star~

Megurine Luka wrote:

[G]

既然有Reflec Beat版本...就加个RB的标签好了 似乎只能加tag了

[I]

比较同意前面不知道谁的看法，diff名换一个好了，Insane给人感觉你还有ENH难度 呃……我词汇量匮乏不知道用啥
以及你的circle串太多了有点单调，我是觉得后半部分可以加一些折返sldier作为替代，一来为了variety，二来到后面players的耐力会差很多，你的谱子里高强度连打开始之后又几乎没有break，压力实在是太大，放点sliders会比较好 我似乎一直以来reverse用的都不多……

00:32:436 (1) - 这个滑条好像有点歪？看着怪别扭的 为了尾巴stack啦
00:41:666 (3) - 开口向上的话flow会更好一点的感觉 形状会看着怪吧？
00:59:089 (4) - 尽量还是移动掉，这里离HP bar太近，我是觉得不如干脆放在00:59:204 (1) - 头上 我觉得应该还好？
01:06:589 (1) - 怎么看都觉得- - 有点别扭 稍微弄了下
01:14:666 (9) - 考虑和01:13:974 (5) - stack一下？ 嗯
01:27:127 (2) - 稍微下来一点和13对齐？ 唔……
01:47:204 (1) - ctrl+g? 这个可以有
02:00:820 (3) - 感受一下 似乎可以有

02:13:358 (3) - 仔细听了下感觉应该是02:13:397 (3) - 开始02:13:512结束，02:13:204 (2) - 也应该是在02:13:224 (2) - 25%仔细听一下 好复杂……整个又重新弄了下
03:40:281 (3) - ctrl+g 这个可以有
04:41:665 (1) - ^ 这个就有点不舒服了……
05:18:588 (5) - 向右移动一点感受一下 恩

L_P wrote:

[好恐怖的scor]
01:12:993 - 总感觉这边要加note 这里几个1/2是跟着吉他音乐的走下来的， 6-7-1-2-3刚好到下一句
01:16:685 - 这边也是，如果不加note的话，前后的note是觉得分开才适 其实跟上面是同样的case。。。唔……不过重新弄排列确实有点麻烦了于是我这里加了
01:25:512 (1) - finish头 (2bar 一次吧 这个可以有
01:28:743 (1) - 虽然后面也有类似的 但是感觉这边特别需要喷一下kiai (比较不同的气氛好像 okay
01:36:127 (1) - finish okay
01:41:204 - volume 60 这个好
02:42:358 (4) - 拉到蓝线? 拉到蓝线的话这一整组的节奏感好像就都要变了所以没有动
02:53:666 (1) - finish头 fixed
02:57:358 (1) - finish? 这里是个低起，所以我觉得finish不太合适
03:38:897 (4,6) - whistle 头 类似的地方都么有做whistle，感觉突然出个嘟嘟嘟的有点怪……
03:41:666 (3) - finish头 okay
03:47:204 (1) - 这里稍微给一点弧度好不好一点点那种 我试试看，后面几个都稍微弄了下
04:31:973 (9,13) - whistle?
04:33:819 (9,13) - whistle
04:37:511 (9,13) - whistle 还是有点觉得whistle不舒服……
05:00:992 - 觉得用note接起来比较有感觉 好
05:08:434 (5,6) - 感觉这边可用note做些东西 继续坑个人www
05:10:280 (1) - finish? finish点成clap了……
05:09:819 (9,13) - whistle? 依然不喜欢whistle...
05:38:204 (2,3) - 换位子? 直接跳对面感觉很有画面感 真是凶残……不过我喜欢www
05:52:742 (1) - ctrl+G （是觉得与前面太靠近 我印象中之类是故意的…………
06:02:665 - 放个note在下个slider头? 我做成折返了～
06:12:588 (4) - 头尾试试whistle,06:13:050 (1) - finish喜欢的话后面可放 还是……不要whistle了吧
06:22:280 (1,2,3,4) - 觉得这边spacing可以残忍一点
06:24:127 (1) - 这note放远一点吧 耍特出 收尾了就别坑人了T.T


orz我手残没办法帮忙 ;_; scor加油
好恐怖 好残忍

No_Gu wrote:

射个星算了。。这图真mod不了

OnosakiHito wrote:

[ Firce777's Taiko Inner Oni]

General



I know, the name Inner / Ura has naturalized in this community as the harders difficulties, but after all -as the name says- it is just a Hidden Oni in Taiko no Tatsujin which can be sometimes even easier. It is rare, but happens. So considere changing the diff. name to Firce777's Taiko Oni

Notes

01:07:051~01:08:204 - Mh, this is a bit too offbeat I think. Tripplets should start at the points 01:07:512 (138,142,146) - while at 01:07:397 (136,140,144) - you could have gaps. fixed
01:09:358 (155,156) - recommending to remove finish note or delte Note (156). BPM 260 is after all fast, so finisher should be rather used at the end of streams. Not a must, but I think it fits better in this way. fixed
01:33:589 (359) - I understand. Using don here emphasizes up coming kats good. But I think note (359) should be a kat as well. You used a certain beet here, so better keep it as it is. fixed
01:40:974 (409) - ^ ? fixed
01:42:647 (426,428) - Try deleting these notes. In the song there is a 1/1 gap, and having out of the sudden such stream after 1/2 notes is questionable.
02:06:243 (614) - delete note as I suggested before. fixed
02:45:820 - Consider having ooxxooxxo. After all, the songs BPm is really high. but still playable
02:51:127 (972) - kat? fixed
02:58:512 (1033) - ^? fixed
03:17:089 (1170,1171,1172) - kkd due to hardness.
03:31:743 (1301) - k fixed
03:39:704 (1374) - ^ fixed
03:47:665 - Making the notes quite is fine, but that's kinda too much. 13% is really low. Use a bit more like 40% at least. fixed
04:11:550~04:17:675 - try making the transition fomr one to another SV change better if possible. fixed
04:30:588~04:34:280 - You should really, really make it bit easier. Have a bit less notes or easier patterns. The whol maps is mapped 1/2 based with some smaller 1/4 patterns and suddenly, out of the sudden, there are monster patterns in BPM 260. This is a really huge diff spread you have here. Considere this. i follow the guitar solo
04:37:857 (141) - kat, suggestion is known. fixed
04:51:011 (267,268,269,270,271) - I don't agree with this pattern. No relation to the song. Dosen't fit in the pattern as well, and has to be played as don after the previous one. Alternaiting becomes hard. I suggets having k d d here, so the 1/4 is more emphasizes.
- advicable to change some other alone standing ddddd as well - fixed
05:23:665 (585,586,587,588,589,590,591) - You never used such pattern before and having this at the end might become problematic for players. Make this pattern easier?
05:46:280~05:47:204 - Just mentioning that you could have used finishers here. Emphasize the song better.
06:22:280~06:24:127 - Firce, No. <_< Not at the end of the song please. This is just unfair to the player who wants to fc it.

Despite of the BPM, you still mapped it pretty nice. Pattern have a constant and stable system, I like that. Of course, it is since ever questionable to use 1/4 in high BPM maps, but thats what the players need to decide. Having some different mapping ways is fine in my opinion.
Just do me the favor and change the red and bolded points I said.

Overall, nice work Firce. Higher player will be happy.

wcx19911123 wrote:

as your request

[General]
RB不是应该放进source么0.0..? 好像是的？
顺带04:05:434 - 感觉需要调整下beatdown 这里的节奏其实是很蛋疼的散拍子…………

[Scorpiour]
00:08:436 - 我觉得spinner end在这里好点
00:10:282 - ^，还可以上点finish，之后的同理
01:30:358 (8) - 感觉可以放到x:288 y:288之类的地方，flow感觉好点，顺带也可以给下个slider做个跳 这个好～
06:18:588 - 建议价格note，然后spinner起晚点 这里和开头的地方感觉不太一样，加note的话前面一组切分音的节奏就被破坏了所以没有动
06:22:973 (4) - 考虑ctrl+g一下？flow好点感觉 这个可以有～

感觉有点鬼畜0.0

Charles445 wrote:

dkun didn't point out specifics so I'll start with some issues brought up.

Please note, it wasn't a single member that pointed out all of these, this was a large discussion.

Quiet notes - Some objects are as low as 5%. BATs reported having trouble hearing these sounds at all. all fixed
Slider that changes speed - This slider in particular undergoes a radical speed change due to its scrunched nature http://puu.sh/3yN3l.jpg fixed
Streams where they don't fit - Often a stream is placed when the music doesn't fit with it. remove a lot of streams already
Playability - The feasibility of passing the map was questioned even by very experienced players. A good example of the difficulty being an issue 04:30:530 i confirm with some players again this part could be fc so don't worry please ~

These were not all the issues but this should cover the large problems.

Loctav wrote:

Confirming the silence hitsound thing, playability issues, slider speed issues, general design issues mentioned by others. This is just a quick glance to confirm what has already been mentioned (not as detailed as it should):

01:56:435 (1) - this is unrankable. Sliders are not supposed to speed down and speed up in themselves. It is not unrankable. You can see similar slider in thousands of ranked maps :>
04:17:675 (1) - unrankable. This is totally offtimed (too early) time checked by LKs and NatsumeRin already
04:18:942 (1) - silent note, silent sliderside, silent everything. Also using bpm changes to manipulate slider speed is invalid. silence notes are changed
04:52:280 (1) - see other slider see other comment
06:07:511 (1) - ^

Stuff I consider overmapped:

01:00:935 (8,9) - why is there a triplet? because of music
01:16:627 (9,10) - ^ ^
01:31:397 (4) - I dont get this repeat slider i like it
02:05:435 (8,9) - this jump is unjustified and totally sudden i can play it, and i also ask for some top players to confirm it already so no change
02:07:051 (6,9,10) - wow, what is that for a hitobject timing. how unintuitive it follows the music sense and i believe it is fine to play
02:55:166 (7,8,9,1) - I wonder if this jump is just placed for the intention to make it even more difficult no, just because i think jump is more suitable
03:02:781 (1,2) - whats with this triplets everywhere. why are they existant? because of music
03:06:474 (1,2) - this follows nothing, not even anything you attempt to "remix upon the song". i think it make sense due to the guitar around here
03:38:897 (4,5,6,7) - ^ (the guitars do something else, the 2nd slider is redundant, since the tone you follow still should belong to the first one) follows music tune
04:58:165 (4,5) - *gasp*



Other stuff that I noticed while taking a glance on it:

00:39:590 (4) - why is that a slider and not two circles? because it's more suitable
00:39:590 (4,1,2,3) - this sounds off, the sliderends make this entire attempt to make the player alternate to the choral sound like poop. Making the first two sliders end on red ticks works waaaay better (soundwise) change a bit
01:37:051 (1,2) - what an ass move it's fine to play don't worry even me could pass it :>
01:41:897 (2,3,4) - ^ ^
01:48:935 (1,2) - inconsistent with previous mapping the music is inconsistent so i choose to make some different/color]
03:37:974 (1,2) - just another ass move to make people break
03:49:197 - suddenly, slow piano, suddenly, boring 1/2 sliders. There are so many syncopes you could make a use of, yet you simply copypasted 1/2 sliders everywhere. Pretty disappointing. Also this part lacks circles. it's not boring but welcomed
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JappyBabes wrote:

this must be some sort of joke, the chinese bat connections are too strong for approval system

JappyBabes wrote:

this must be some sort of joke, the chinese bat connections are too strong for approval system

Shiro wrote:

No. Just no.
This is beyond overmapped. There are silenced beats as well, and this went from popped bubble to approved in under an hour. What kind of attitude is this ?

Unranking. This is going into internal discussion as to what to do with this map.

Silynn wrote:

this should not have been unranked

<3 map forever

Shiro wrote:

No. Just no.
This is beyond overmapped. There are silenced beats as well, and this went from popped bubble to approved in under an hour. What kind of attitude is this ?

Unranking. This is going into internal discussion as to what to do with this map.

No. Just no.

Silynn wrote:

this should not have been unranked

<3 map forever

JappyBabes wrote:

this must be some sort of joke, the chinese bat connections are too strong for approval system

Shiro wrote:

No. Just no.
This is beyond overmapped. There are silenced beats as well, and this went from popped bubble to approved in under an hour. What kind of attitude is this ?

Unranking. This is going into internal discussion as to what to do with this map.

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Nyari wrote:

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that is a relatively old play, its a pass and not alot has changed since it, the map is definetly passable. re-approve please as there is no faulties with this map. for anyone thinking that is overmapped, please think about what bpm it is.

• AR10 is kinda forced in here. There are no jumps that are unreadable with AR9. Honestly, it seems like you're only using AR10 because of the self-proclaimed "pros" that don't know how to play anything AR9 or below.

1. 01:10:281 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16,1) - You can hear it on 25%. It's 1/2. You can not deny it. It's overmapping. Not even gonna argue about it, it's unrankable.
2. 01:14:666 (9) - Why isn't this 1/2? Doesn't even make sense rhythmically.
3. 01:17:435 (3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16) - There aren't 1/4 sounds here. There are actually barely any 1/2s. Unrankable as well. Also, it plays very badly.
   All of the 1/4 streams that don't have 1/4 sound in the music are unrankable.
4. 03:45:358 (1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3) - Plays horribly bad and doesn't make any sense while playing.
5. 04:18:942 (1) - I'm... really unsure about this slider. I'm pretty sure it's unrankable but needs a lot of discussion.
6. 04:30:588 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16 until the rest of the stream) - Plays horribly bad, it's only clearable by the best players there and isn't any fun to smash your keyboard hopelessly. May want to replace some notes with repeating kicksliders.
7. 05:06:127 (6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,1) - *nazi* stream isn't properly aligned, cough
8. 05:46:280 (1,2,3,4) - The sliderends don't follow the song.

Loctav wrote:

01:56:435 (1) - this is unrankable. Sliders are not supposed to speed down and speed up in themselves. nothing wrong
04:17:675 (1) - unrankable. This is totally offtimed (too early) tooseems indeed early, also 04:18:942 (1) - is a bit late
04:18:942 (1) - silent note, silent sliderside, silent everything. Also using bpm changes to manipulate slider speed is invalid. minor issue ^
04:52:280 (1) - see other slider not getting any problem with it, it fits the music while not hindering the players
06:07:511 (1) - ^ same as above, the not-in-the-mid slidertick can tell that the first half of the slider is slow

Stuff I consider overmapped:

01:00:935 (8,9) - why is there a triplet? getting no sound at blue tick, but considered acceptable for transition
01:16:627 (9,10) - ^ ^
01:31:397 (4) - I dont get this repeat slider there is catchable sound
02:05:435 (8,9) - this jump is unjustified and totally sudden don't get any problem while thy're reflecting the rising-pitch, while it's totally playable, even for noobs like me
02:07:051 (6,9,10) - wow, what is that for a hitobject timing. how unintuitive the 3/4 slider isn't neccessary but still acceptable for the sound doesn't end at red tick and the tripple is definitely suitable, there is apparent drum sound in the music at blue tick
02:55:166 (7,8,9,1) - I wonder if this jump is just placed for the intention to make it even more difficult not getting any problem here, same as 02:05:435 (8,9) -
03:02:781 (1,2) - whats with this triplets everywhere. why are they existant? clearly catchable drum sound exists
03:06:474 (1,2) - this follows nothing, not even anything you attempt to "remix upon the song". not having any problem following the melody here, or do you want more streams here ?
03:38:897 (4,5,6,7) - ^ (the guitars do something else, the 2nd slider is redundant, since the tone you follow still should belong to the first one) yeah I admit that the guitar sound does not start right at the white tick but this is a way to make the map more intuitive and it also fits the drum, what's wrong with it?
04:58:165 (4,5) - *gasp* not sure of this point, I could not clearly catch a sound at blue tick



Other stuff that I noticed while taking a glance on it:

00:39:590 (4) - why is that a slider and not two circles? I don't get any meaningful difference for this point. Sliders are not the same as circles but still at some points they reflect the similar things
00:39:590 (4,1,2,3) - this sounds off, the sliderends make this entire attempt to make the player alternate to the choral sound like poop. Making the first two sliders end on red ticks works waaaay better (soundwise) this totally fits the music, the vocal never ended at the red ticks
01:37:051 (1,2) - what an ass move I think it could never be regarded as a problem, it's just reflecting the feeling that the mapper got while listening to this part of music, I think the slow-down-to-stop trend is suitable, after following the vibrato at 01:35:666 (3,4) -
01:41:897 (2,3,4) - ^ it's totally fine, I don't get any neccessity to answer a question which questions nothing
01:48:935 (1,2) - inconsistent with previous mapping why should they all be the same, it's acceptable as long as the notes fit the music right, isn't it?
03:37:974 (1,2) - just another ass move to make people break it does no harm but good, while the vocal lasts very long, it's acceptable to set a gap and provided that, the stop at 03:37:974 (1) - makes the sudden direction change from 03:37:743 (8) - to 03:38:204 (2) - much smoother
03:49:197 - suddenly, slow piano, suddenly, boring 1/2 sliders. There are so many syncopes you could make a use of, yet you simply copypasted 1/2 sliders everywhere. Pretty disappointing. Also this part lacks circles. more sliders are really needed to give the players a chance to rest and accuracy is hard to get at such soft parts if with many circles instead of sliders

Blue Dragon wrote:

Even if your post was kinda offensive and it's going to receive answer like ironic chinese people using their language to mock us in the thread, I agree with it. It was just "hey friend, check my map" and boom, ranked. The points stated by Loctav that were of extreme importance were just "no"'d and "i like it"'d. You must find better reasons to stay with something as bad as this if you want to get your map ranked.

Zero__wind wrote:

Is the thing that you think [/color]extremely important ?

Blue Dragon wrote:

[Scorpiour]

• AR10 is kinda forced in here. There are no jumps that are unreadable with AR9. Honestly, it seems like you're only using AR10 because of the self-proclaimed "pros" that don't know how to play anything AR9 or below. I'm neutral here. It'a matter of fact that no huge jumps like airman are setted but still, I don't think filling the screen with too many objects at a time is good for players

1. 01:10:281 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16,1) - You can hear it on 25%. It's 1/2. You can not deny it. It's overmapping. Not even gonna argue about it, it's unrankable. Only 01:10:801 (10,12,14,16) - are redundant
2. 01:14:666 (9) - Why isn't this 1/2? Doesn't even make sense rhythmically. the tone which start from 01:14:666 - didnt end at the red tick and I think that's why its currently be mapped like this, I admit the tail of the slider lands on nothing but every needs an end. Changing its end to soft sampleset may be done for compromize imo
3. 01:17:435 (3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16) - There aren't 1/4 sounds here. There are actually barely any 1/2s. Unrankable as well. Also, it plays very badly. yes, no 1/4 here, 1/2 full-filled
   All of the 1/4 streams that don't have 1/4 sound in the music are unrankable.
4. 03:45:358 (1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3) - Plays horribly bad and doesn't make any sense while playing. yes I was also confused because there's not catchable stuff to be followed which in groups of three, still I'd sat, it's a way of mapping, just like anyone else may set different jumps. I don't deny that this may be improved
5. 04:18:942 (1) - I'm... really unsure about this slider. I'm pretty sure it's unrankable but needs a lot of discussion. if it's unacceptable for its velocity changing according to the BPM, then replacing with a spinner will work. But anyway, the timing points iare needed, though I'm with no idea if they're acceptablly correct
6. 04:30:588 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16 until the rest of the stream) - Plays horribly bad, it's only clearable by the best players there and isn't any fun to smash your keyboard hopelessly. May want to replace some notes with repeating kicksliders. replacing some with kick sliders will do. Just saying, "it doesn't look nice" may be the reason that the mapper haven't do so
7. 05:06:127 (6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,1) - *nazi* stream isn't properly aligned, cough =.=
8. 05:46:280 (1,2,3,4) - The sliderends don't follow the song. I think they are fine to be lengthened like this, because the guitar(?) sound didn't end at the red ticks. You don't need to click at the sliders' ends, you on;y need to hold on to them, for the sounds are not ended

The end is just a grambled mess of 1/2 sliders that don't follow the song. I'm being honest here. osu! is a rhythm game, not a "1/2 tap away + spam your keyboard when you want" game. If you want a good map, then follow the song properly.

Blue Dragon wrote:

Zero__wind wrote:

Is the thing that you think [/color]extremely important ?

"There's no sound in that tick, but should be acceptable for a transition" isn't something that makes the map suddenly rankable. Overmapping is unrankable, and there's no such thing to change that.
Also, refer to my post to the very unrankable stuff.