Actually it would, we already lost 1 towny today, we could assume we lynched NH instead.Kitsunemimi wrote:
I'm also reminded that if we're all really unsure, then it's still possible to go for No Lynch, but that might not be such a good idea after all...?
Remember when BRBP made his post to reply to all of the suspicions held against him? Since pieguy had confirmed his dayvig status afterwards, that also most likely means that everything he said in that post was true. I had grilled him pretty hard with the post I made too, and considering how close he was to the fire, as well as his previous (thoughtless?) contradictions/errors, I'm pretty sure he wouldn't lie about anything in that post, in which he did explicitly state that he was 1-shot dayvig, town aligned. Combine that with the likelyhood of a mafia aligned dayvig, and he's almost certainly town.Raging Bull wrote:
BRBP to me is just.....i don't know. His actions weren't justified and just because he's a dayvig doesn't confirm he's town I suppose. Honestly, even I used the wiki when I was checking dayvig. Maybe pieguy isn't a bastard mod, but you'll never know. Of course I could be wrong.
Scumslip? How do you know there are 3 mafias?Lilac wrote:
I also forgot about the possibility of a Serial Killer to balance the mafia of 3. That is definitely a possibility.
Rantai wrote:
In less subtle words, come at me now. We'll see how good you are.
Reason I didn't vote for Kanye is because I was not in the right mindset at the time to give a reason and I would never vote anyone without a well thought out reason behind it.Lilac wrote:
Even though we already have a town down, leaving a day without a lynch means a day that town leaves without an informed decision on who is mafia. A Kanye lynch will see whether one of the possible scum teams that I have in mind are true.
for me it's like I'm in CPR.Lilac wrote:
If memory serves there's about 50 minutes left or maybe even less so just hang on until I get home. I'll figure something out even though I'm starving. I will get home in about less than 30 so that should be barely enough time to get something out. This is like a marathon guys, stay with me here.
Holy crap, something in that pile of arguments that makes sense.Sakura wrote:
Actually it would, we already lost 1 towny today, we could assume we lynched NH instead.
Vote: No Lynch
nopeRaging Bull wrote:
Well actually....
@Mod, does Neighborizer die if he recruits mafia?
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mafia_(party_game)Raging Bull wrote:
I'm still curious about Lilac knowing there was 3 scum. Is what Lilac formula really true?
yesTanzklaue wrote:
@mod: would we know if rantai was suicidal?
Well from a pure game balance perspective, 20-30% of players should be scum so 3 scum makes the most sense. 2 mafia and 1 sk is the most probable outcome based on what happened at night because I don't think we would have 2 vigs.Raging Bull wrote:
I'm still curious about Lilac knowing there was 3 scum. Is what Lilac formula really true?
I suppose, but I do not know what touhou (lackof touhou knowledge in general) character carries a gun and is paranoid.Royston wrote:
There could also be a Paranoid Gun Owner, right? Is that likely or not?
It was Tanz who chose Nazrin. Though I kinda like Naz~Lilac wrote:
At the time I didn't know what his character was but I'm surprised he chose Nazrin.
......Mou. You totally gave me away...!! You should've known that calling me Hina here would cause ambiguity and/or confusion ;_;Lilac wrote:
Mimi long ago actually cosplayed as Hina. I adored his cosplay so I called him that for quite a bit. Still do now.
Pretty much ._.Jinxy wrote:
she might be a PGO that causes misfortune to anyone that visits her.
I quoted that post because it was the most relevant. I was actually referring to the original post where he first calls me "Hina", which is basically how Jinxy figured out my role.Kitsunemimi wrote:
......Mou. You totally gave me away...!! You should've known that calling me Hina here would cause ambiguity and/or confusion ;_;Lilac wrote:
Mimi long ago actually cosplayed as Hina. I adored his cosplay so I called him that for quite a bit. Still do now.
Why would he do that in the first place? Why to such an obnoxious, weird thing? Maybe for someone to pick it up and then be able to claim something pretty convenient.Kitsunemimi wrote:
Lilac already explained why he calls me Hina, it's the legitimate reason.
Possibly? I don't think flavor should determine the role tbh.Kitsunemimi wrote:
Then what would the cause of Rantai's death be?
A serial killer? Pushed him down the stairs?
flavour does hint at the role. up until now, every claim made sense, and the flavour fitted the role.fartownik wrote:
Possibly? I don't think flavor should determine the role tbh.Kitsunemimi wrote:
Then what would the cause of Rantai's death be?
A serial killer? Pushed him down the stairs?
Seriously? I really hope you don't mean that "Touhou PyP" in the game name has no significance in the roles we get.fartownik wrote:
Possibly? I don't think flavor should determine the role tbh.Kitsunemimi wrote:
Then what would the cause of Rantai's death be?
A serial killer? Pushed him down the stairs?
Tanzklaue wrote:
let's look even deeper into this issue...
up until RBs vote on lilac,it was a tie between the kanye bandwaggon and the tanz bandwaggon. if RB had stayed on the waggon, then lilac most likely would've voted kanye. neither the klaue nor the no lynch waggon could've beaten the kanye waggon. result: kanye dead.
with his unvote though, the kanye waggon was basically dead. there was no chance to bring the kanye waggon over the tanz waggon, and I would've been dead. now, of course I would now switch to the NL waggon in order to not get myself lynched, and lilac would join the waggon. result: kanye doesn't get lynched.
so what I am saying is: for some reason, RB didn't want kanye to get lynched. he didn't care in the end if I had been lynched or if no lynch gets through. there really wasn't that much reason for RB to not push a kanye lynch. at least no town motivated reasons.
overall, I think i have to let kanye get away another day.
Vote: RB
Lilac wrote:
3. I had 50 minutes to convince 2 other people that no lynching was terrible. Do you know how improbable that was to do?
So you just voted No Lynch because you thought it's a terrible idea? Hm, interesting. Actually, if you hadn't done anything at that point, Tanz would be lynched. He had 3 votes on himself, same for No Lynch, but he'd get lynched because he got 3 votes first. Also - Kanye had 2 votes, you could've either: vote Kanye, vote Tanz or do nothing when you thought No Lynch was a bad idea, but you voted it anyways.Lilac wrote:
Vote: No Lynch
Ugh. Far out. My computer is way too slow to load so I'm using 3G. As much as I said I do not like this I don't think I can convince anyone now to think otherwise and I do concede that another possible town lynch could be really bad.
I will get to the bottom of this.
at that point of time, I would'e voted NL regardless of what lilac would've voted. NL would've happened either way.fartownik wrote:
Lilac wrote:
3. I had 50 minutes to convince 2 other people that no lynching was terrible. Do you know how improbable that was to do?So you just voted No Lynch because you thought it's a terrible idea? Hm, interesting. Actually, if you hadn't done anything at that point, Tanz would be lynched. He had 3 votes on himself, same for No Lynch, but he'd get lynched because he got 3 votes first. Also - Kanye had 2 votes, you could've either: vote Kanye, vote Tanz or do nothing when you thought No Lynch was a bad idea, but you voted it anyways.Lilac wrote:
Vote: No Lynch
Ugh. Far out. My computer is way too slow to load so I'm using 3G. As much as I said I do not like this I don't think I can convince anyone now to think otherwise and I do concede that another possible town lynch could be really bad.
I will get to the bottom of this.
Unvote
Yep, but still - the fact that he voted No Lynch even before your vote is weird. If he voted Kanye, he'd have 3 votes, and then you could vote Kanye too so he'd be lynched. Reason - he didn't want Kanye lynched. It's funny because you mentioned RB didn't want Kanye lynched and now it's up on Lilac, with you in the case. Either way, Kanye is scum, so I will just vote him because he's slipping there for far too long.Tanzklaue wrote:
at that point of time, I would'e voted NL regardless of what lilac would've voted. NL would've happened either way.
I couldn't have voted kanye.fartownik wrote:
Yep, but still - the fact that he voted No Lynch even before your vote is weird. If he voted Kanye, he'd have 3 votes, and then you could vote Kanye too so he'd be lynched. Reason - he didn't want Kanye lynched. It's funny because you mentioned RB didn't want Kanye lynched and now it's up on Lilac, with you in the case. Either way, Kanye is scum, so I will just vote him because he's slipping there for far too long.Tanzklaue wrote:
at that point of time, I would'e voted NL regardless of what lilac would've voted. NL would've happened either way.
Vote: Kanye
Oh shit, I didn't notice that.Tanzklaue wrote:
I couldn't have voted kanye.
the reason: the scond vote on him after yours was mine.
there was no possibility to get 4 votes on kanye without RBs support, as the rest didn't want to lynch kanye.
My internet sucks too.Lilac wrote:
I am actually severely handicapped right about now since I have capped internet until 11th of this month. Not to mentioned I'm stressed out about this game but ignore that.
1. There's nothing wrong with an OMGUS vote, screw the haters, if you have a valid reason to vote for someone like me then bloody do it and make it a good case against me.
2. I did mention about a Kanye lynch being better than a Tanz one. I would dig up a quote but I'm having trouble posting enough as is now, look at the posts by me leading up to the no lynch.
3. I had 50 minutes to convince 2 other people that no lynching was terrible. Do you know how improbable that was to do?
4. I tried near the beginning of the day on 3 different people to try and scumhunt. Mimi, Tanz and BRBP. I don't want to give up but when 3 town are dead that takes a complete morale blow like you would never believe.
Come on, mate. At least help me if you can't help yourself.
Jinxy wrote:
Royston: Why did you see the need to "bring the heat up"?
What's up with that? Anyone could've went in saying "oh hurr yeah I think he's scum too", and it turns out that everyone's completely wrong because you put on too many votes on RB before he could even say anything. You say that like we're aware of who's town and who's not.Royston wrote:
Not concerned about a quickhammer. I know town wouldn't hammer, so if someone hammered & RB flipped town then we have a known scum. That's all.
Sure, but if someone decided to hammer so early in the day then it's a safe bet they're not town; unless the player lynched is scum, of course.Kitsunemimi wrote:
Anyone could've went in saying "oh hurr yeah I think he's scum too"
I'm not clear on what you mean by this.Kitsunemimi wrote:
and it turns out that everyone's completely wrong because you put on too many votes on RB before he could even say anything.
Hah, well some of us are.Kitsunemimi wrote:
You say that like we're aware of who's town and who's not.
Yes, if we get scum. I'd much prefer a mislynch over no lynch, at least we gain info that way. We're already in a bad spot, we can't afford to play it safe.Kitsunemimi wrote:
Also, are you saying you're okay with risking a mislynch while we're already 3 down?
slip oneRoyston wrote:
Hah, well some of us are.Kitsunemimi wrote:
You say that like we're aware of who's town and who's not.
slip 2. there was no reason to assume that there would be a no lynch today.Royston wrote:
Yes, if we get scum. I'd much prefer a mislynch over no lynch, at least we gain info that way. We're already in a bad spot, we can't afford to play it safe.Kitsunemimi wrote:
Also, are you saying you're okay with risking a mislynch while we're already 3 down?
Some of the players in this game have innately shakey reasoning, even if they might turn out to be town, such as BRBP and Tanz (though we don't know if Tanz is scum or not). It's because of this that I really simply don't trust them to not hammer, even if they may be town. In other words, the person to throw down the hammer is ambiguous.Royston wrote:
Sure, but if someone decided to hammer so early in the day then it's a safe bet they're not town; unless the player lynched is scum, of course.Kitsunemimi wrote:
Anyone could've went in saying "oh hurr yeah I think he's scum too"
Stating a hypothetical situation where RB flipped town from a quickhammer where there wasn't enough evidence. Which would be incredibly stupid, especially given my above point which states that the person who hammers isn't guaranteed to be scum.Royston wrote:
I'm not clear on what you mean by this.Kitsunemimi wrote:
and it turns out that everyone's completely wrong because you put on too many votes on RB before he could even say anything.
I don't know about you, but I don't think I would be that okay with a mislynch at this stage. I would be okay if we lynched scum, and only scum. You even said it yourself, we're in a pretty bad situation right now, but then suddenly your reasoning falls apart and you say we can't afford to play it safe? I'm not even sure if that makes sense? Usually when you're in situations where you can't really mess up, that's when you try to play safely, so you make it out okay...?Royston wrote:
Yes, if we get scum. I'd much prefer a mislynch over no lynch, at least we gain info that way. We're already in a bad spot, we can't afford to play it safe.Kitsunemimi wrote:
Also, are you saying you're okay with risking a mislynch while we're already 3 down?
