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MELL - Red Fraction (TV Size)

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Armin
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Armin
Offset: 14.136

[AdvancedBoy's insane]
00:55:12 (1,2,3) and 00:55:96 (4,5,6) Did you use different distance spacing? o_O
00:37:16 (7) Align with 5 and 6?

[Hard]
00:42:12 (4) Maybe align with 2?
00:51:10 (1) Remove new combo
00:50:68 (10) ADD new combo
00:39:48 (1) This slider should finish at 00:39:91
00:54:06 (12) add new combo
00:54:48 (1) remove new combo

[Normal]
00:58:93 My suggestion... the spinner should finish 01:01:28 where is placed the red beat

This is a good beatmap but many parts are very confused.
Star, anyway °°
Reginleifx
99 posts
Joined August 2008
Reginleifx
grosso! xD
Starrodkirby86
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Starrodkirby86
0.0

Consider lowering hitsound volume by .5-1 ticks?

[Normal]:
00:36:97 (5) - Move 1 left on Grid Level 3.
00:37:39 (6) - Kind of a big jump...
00:39:51 (1,2) - Rhythm kind of odd here (2).
00:58:20 (2,3) - Move 1/4 later?
01:08:34 (2,3,4) - Overlap looks funny.
01:11:41 (1) - End spinner at 1:14:793?

Why does [Normal] have a different timing than [Hard] and [Insane]?

[Hard]:
00:49:31 (5) - Move 1 down on Grid Level 3.
01:08:32 (2) - Go to Beat Snap Divisor 1/8, and shorten this slider one anchor point up, so it'll repeat on a 1/8.
01:10:01 (2) - Something's up with this slider. :<

[AdvanceBoy's Insane]:
00:39:48 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - Adjust spacing. If you want to keep that jump, make it a new combo or something.
01:03:14 (6) - Move more right?


Something's up with the rhythm here...one way or another...I just can't point my finger at it. I might need to take a look at this later. Never mind, it's just [Normal].
EEeee
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Joined July 2008
EEeee
This map has been deleted on the request of its creator. It is no longer available.
AdvanceBoy
284 posts
Joined October 2008
AdvanceBoy
Hi Leeg :3

Vine a echar un vistazo y se supone que iba a subir una version de mi dificultad adaptandose a los mods y con mi Style, pero veo que has hecho un gran trabajo arrenglandolo tu y tambien con las otras dificultades ;)

Le daria otra Star si pudiera... Espera, SI PUEDO!

Pink STAR!!
Starrodkirby86
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Starrodkirby86
*poot*

[Normal]:
00:16:45 (6) - Suggestion: Shorten slider by 1/4?
00:37:79 (1,2) - Suggestion: Move these to make (2) stacked under (6)? It's hardly noticeable so feel free to ignore. :)
00:54:48 (5) - Finish?
00:57:86 (1,2,3) - Suggestion: Move these to make (2) stacked under (8)? It's hardly noticeable so feel free to ignore. :)
01:04:83 (2) - Nazi: Move this a wee bit to make it look like (3) and (4)'s spacing? :3

[Hard]:
00:16:24 (8) - Nazi/Suggestion: Move 1 right on Grid Level 3.
00:49:20 (4) - Move 1 up on Grid Level 3.
01:03:99 (6) - Move 1/4 back. Adjust spacing as needed.
01:08:32 (2) - Shorten slider by 1/8. Believe me, it'll sound nicer. :3
01:09:69 (1,2) - In my opinion, this slider doesn't really fit now. ._. I don't know what you can do about it except either change it to follow a nice rhythm or replace it with circles. (Or a series of small sliders)

Forgive me if it's a lot of stuff. Most of the things on Normal are suggestions to make the map look a little prettier.

If you haven't already, set a pretty preview point. ^_^

Also, there's only one (Well, two) inherited timing sections (With the exception of AdvanceBoy's Insane). I don't know if there are other good places of putting them, but it kind of feels...out of place or not balanced that there's only one, you know?

Please notify me when you've made these changes. ^3^
minyeob
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minyeob
*Beep*

[Normal]
Suggestion~
00:36:95 (5) - Make this circle 1/4 beat later (To 00:37:05)
01:09:90 (2) - Make this circle 1/4 beat later (To 01:10:01)

[Hard]
Suggestion~
00:36:95 (5) - Same thing as [Normal]. Make this circle 1/4 beat later (To 00:37:05)


[AdvanceBoy]
00:18:50 (3) - This circle isn't snapped yet :o Resnap please~ (Use 1/4 beatsnap divisor)

Star for you! Good luck XD
mrtn
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mrtn
set a preview point

[normal]
00:27:66 - reinsert break
Leeg
290 posts
Joined March 2009
Topic Starter
Leeg
Done! :D
ztrot
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ztrot
nice map I might mod this later
varq
104 posts
Joined February 2008
varq
Normal
00:14:98 (4) - This does not go with the song
00:15:008 - Place a beat here
00:20:89 (4) - Remove a repeat here
00:21:85 - Place a beat here
00:21:96 - Why did you make it soft here?
00:22:16 (5) - Make this repeat once
00:24:27 (1) - The second part of this slider doesn't go well with the song
00:36:95 (5) - This does not go with the song
00:39:48 (1) - Make this slider a 1/4 shorter
00:49:42 - Add a beat here
00:52:58 (4) - I don't like this slider, doesn't go well with the song
00:58:28 (2) - Move this a 1/4 back
00:58:72 - Add a beat here
01:09:90 (2) - Move this a 1/4 forward
01:04:09 (6) - Move a 1/4 forward (white tick)
01:04:83 (2) - This does not go with the vocals
01:06:74 (2) - Move this a 1/4 back

Hard
00:18:47 - Put a beat here
00:20:89 (5) - Remove a repeat from this slider
00:21:85 - Put a beat here
00:23:21 (4) - Make this a slider for 1/2 a beat
00:24:90 (4) - Make this a slider ending on where the (5) is
00:25:26 (5) - Remove this
00:26:81 (11) - Make this a slider lasting a 1/4
00:36:95 (5) - Make this a slider lasting a 1/4 OR 00:37:06 - Add a beat here
00:37:37 (7,8) - Remove these
00:37:79 (1) - Make this slider 3/4 of a beat, and make it repeat only once
00:38:65 - Add a beat here
00:41:17 (1,2,3,4,5) - Increase the spacing a bit here
00:44:55 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4) - Too much whistle
00:46:45 (2) - Make this a slider lasting a 1/2
00:46:67 (3) - Remove this
00:47:09 (5) - Make this a slider lasting a 1/4
01:04:83 (2) - Move this a 1/4 back
01:08:32 (2) - The reverse arrow here does not match with the song
01:10:75 (4) - Move this to the next white tick
01:11:38 (1,2,3) - Match these beats with the vocals
01:13:28 (1) - End the spinner at 01:14:77, it doesn't match Normal

Insane
00:14:98 (2) - Move this a 1/4 ahead
00:15:19 (3) - Remove this
00:16:45 (8) - Make this a hit circle
00:16:88 (9) - Move this to 00:16:67 and make it slider lasting a 1/4
00:19:41 (1) - Add another repeat to this slider
00:20:05 (2) - Remove this
00:24:69 (3) - This slider sounds weird
00:27:86 (2,3,4,5,6,7) - I don't like this pattern
00:31:24 (2,3,4,5,6) - ^
00:37:79 (1,2,3) - Doesn't go with the song
00:41:17 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - Hit sounds sound weird here.
01:03:78 (7) - Why is this 1/6 slider? It sounds bad
01:04:62 (1,2,3) - Slightly off the screen
01:20:89 (7) - Make this a slider

Overall, the hit sounds are inconsistent.

Remember, you don't have to change it if you don't want to. Some of these are just opinions.
Last edited by varq , edited 1 time in total.
Shinde
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Shinde
I made a difficulty for you. You don't have to use it or anything. This song was hard to map to, a lot of the beats feel a little awkward, which is why I think it's hard for me to play Normal/Hard/Insane. You kinda have to learn the song, moreso than other songs.

Anyways, good luck with ranking.

On a sidenote, it looks like the video might need a slight negative offset. I was thinking -110 I believe.

Download: MELL - Red Fraction (TV Size) (Leeg) [Shinde Style].osu
Leeg
290 posts
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Topic Starter
Leeg
Thanks a lot, i like it :D

Added ^^
Kurai
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Kurai
Hi~
[Normal]
00:15:93 (x) - Add note
00:16:14 (x) - ^

[Hard]
00:18:57 (x) - Add note
00:22:16 (1) - WTF Oo, this is Horrible !
00:26:81 (11) - Slider ?

[Shinde Style]
Good ^^

[AdvanceBooy's Insane]
perfect

☼Star☼
Gens
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Gens
[General]
  1. Deberías de llenar el dato de "Source" también.
  2. El conteo no suena bien. Tal vez deberías de deshabilitarlo.
  3. "hitwhistle.wav" está en el folder de la canción, pero no es usado. Podrías eliminarlo y hacer una Full Submission de nuevo?
[Todas las dificultades (excepto la de Shinde)]

00:22:16 - IMO el cambio de sonido no queda.

[Normal]
  1. Siento que es muy difícil para un Normal...
00:15:93 (6,7,8) - Pero qué rayos. Muévelos 1/4 para adelante y reacomódalos con distance snap.
00:39:48 (1,2) - Yo evitaría esto... contráelo por 1/4.

[Hard]

00:18:57 (5) - 1/4 para atrás.
00:26:81 (11) - Tal vez 1/4 para adelante?
01:04:73 - Tal vez deberías tener un beat aquí.
01:10:75 (4) - 1/4 para adelante.

[AdvanceBoy's Insane]

01:03:78 (7,8) - Algo sobre estos dos no suena bien... no deberías usar octavos comoquiera.

[Shinde Style]

<3
Aunque no me gustó mucho el cambio de sampleset, comoquiera <3

~ ~ ~

No está mal para tu primer mapa (es tu primer mapa, verdad?), pero todavía necesita un poco de trabajo. :D
Espero verte haciendo más mapas~
whymeman
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whymeman
Remember, some of the errors posted are suggestions, not directions. Edit to what you see fit.

Non-Detailed Modding v.1.0 Go~


[Normal]

00:15:40 (5,6) - What the..... this jump feels random and out of place.
00:15:93 (6,7) - Don't follow the lyrics here, follow the beat. If you follow the lyrics for these two notes, its going to sound confusing.
00:37:37 (6,1,2) - The spacing here looks really odd. Please double check into this.
00:39:48 (1,2) - Could be put together a bit more neatly?
00:44:55 (1) - Just a suggestion but maybe you can make a more neater slider?
00:57:86 (1,2,3) - Fix the spacing here please.

The notes feel a bit randomly placed in this map. Also, the spacing would need some touch ups. Try using alt + shift to fine tune the distance snap rate.

[Hard]

00:15:82 (6) - New combo?
00:18:57 (5,1) - What is up with this jump?
00:35:05 (3,4) - Too far apart.
00:36:74 (4,5,6) - Spacing fluctuation. Lower (6) down a bit and the notes lined up after.
00:41:17 (1,2,3,4,5) - Spacing fluctuation. (4) needs to be a bit higher.
00:54:06 (1) - Not stacked evenly.
01:02:72 (1) - You forced a note to be here though the spacing is improper.
01:08:32 (2) - This repeating slider sounds really off.
01:10:96 (?) - No Note here?
01:19:83 - I've noticed the map ends here, but normal ends sooner. Mind taking a look into that?

The notes in this difficulty feels kinda disorganized and not smoothly flowing through the map. The jumps were also out of place as well.

[AdvanceBoy's Insane]

This difficulty is missing a preveiw point.
00:37:16 (7) - Delete this note and see if it sounds better without it.
01:03:78 (7) - This slider is just tapping away. It doesn't sound like it goes to anything.
01:04:62 (1,2,3) - Bottomed out of the window.

[Shinde Style]

00:19:62 (7,8,9) - Spacing fluctuation. Just need to move (9) down 1 notch.
00:20:89 (1,2,3,4) - Got some spacing fluctuation between the notes here. Double check into that.

Overall: The map still needs some work. The spacing for [Normal] and [Hard] felt really odd to play with honestly and needs to be fixed up. Also, please check into the combo colors to see that they don't blend into the video background. Another thing, you have two .osb files in the song folder plus an odd resolution for the background which needs to be looked into as well (Screen Shot). Make sure the map is fixed up before asking me (or another BAT) again.
Shinde
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Shinde

whymeman wrote:

[Shinde Style]

00:19:62 (7,8,9) - Spacing fluctuation. Just need to move (9) down 1 notch. Totally wouldn't have noticed myself, done.
00:20:89 (1,2,3,4) - Got some spacing fluctuation between the notes here. Double check into that. I'm suprised you noticed. ;x I actually debated this positioning briefly, I should've turned grid off and aligned them manually but didn't.
Taken care of. Here's the updated version. On a sidenote, Leeg if anyone posts suggestions for my difficulty, can you contact me via PM? I only knew whyme did cause he told me and I only check here every couple days so. :(

Download: MELL - Red Fraction (TV Size) (Leeg) [Shinde Style].osu
Leeg
290 posts
Joined March 2009
Topic Starter
Leeg
Ok, thanks :D All changes done!
AdvanceBoy
284 posts
Joined October 2008
AdvanceBoy
<3 Mas sugerencias <3

[Normal]

00:34:41 (1,2,3) - Un grid a la derecha, para que quede centrado
00:37:37 (6) - Uck, creo que no suena bien, eliminalo
00:37:79 (1,2) - un grid abajo, para que que el slider quede snacked con (4,5)
00:39:48 (1) - Termina en 00:39:90 (tick rojo anterior)
00:58:28 (2) - 1/4 atras
00:58:71 (x) - añade una nota?
01:06:74 (2,3,4) - espacio

[Hard]

01:09:27 (3) - 1/4 atras
01:10:01 (2,3,4) - uh?
01:11:59 (2) - 1/4 hacia adelante
01:11:81 - 1/2 hacia adelante (al tick rojo)

[YO's Insane]

00:31:35 (3,4) - des-snack-ea eso plz
00:55:12 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10) - un grid hacia abajo y otro a la derecha
01:03:78 (7) - borra ESO, es su lugar pon un circle en 01:03:78 y otro en 01:03:92 (usando Beat Snap Divisor 1/6) snack-eados
01:08:21 (1,2,3,4,5) - Um... que quede asi:
SPOILER



[Shinde Style]

Bah, no veo nada demasiado mal

PD: NUNCA TE RINDAS!


Leeg
290 posts
Joined March 2009
Topic Starter
Leeg
Changes done! Thanks to all :D
ShaggoN
689 posts
Joined September 2008
ShaggoN
[Normal]
  1. 00:15:93 (6-7) - i don't like that. would move that 1/4 back
  2. 00:18:78 (5) - Move that note two grids right
  3. 00:41:38 (2) - Move that note one grid right
[Hard]
  1. 00:18:57 (5) - Add new combo
  2. 00:18:78 (1) - Remove new combo
  3. 00:48:36 (1) - ^
  4. 01:10:96 (4) - Move 1/2 forward
[AdvanceBoy's Insane]
Many little spacing problems but it plays naturally.
[Shinde Style]
  1. 00:18:14 (3) - Move it two grids right, and two up
  2. 00:19:83 (8) - Move it one grid down
  3. 00:20:26 (9) - Move it one grid up
Starrrr'd :D
Mafiamaster
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3,460 posts
Joined July 2008
Mafiamaster
Hard~
01:10:86 (4) - This note is too early. Move it to the white tick.

Advanceboy~
01:04:20 (9) - Move this farther from 8.

Shinde~
00:47:72 (1) - Place the Kiai time here at the beginning of this slider
Leeg
290 posts
Joined March 2009
Topic Starter
Leeg
Done! ^^
Shinde
osu! Alumni
707 posts
Joined April 2009
Shinde
Leeg, please don't make changes to my difficulty. Like I said, just PM me and I'll come take care of them ASAP, even if it's small things like grid spacing and kiai. I'm on quite often so time shouldn't be a problem. orz
Jesss
814 posts
Joined November 2008
Jesss
Interesante map :o

Bueno, voy al grano:

Normal
SPOILER
00:16:45 (8) - que fea posición de ese slider, tiende a ser confusa, es un map normal
00:18:466 - deberías poner un circle (es solo una recomendación)
00:23:008 - ^
00:39:48 (1) - Haz caso al Distance Snap, estoy en los zapatos de un noob y bleh! que feo lugar de ese slider.
00:58:71 (4) - recomiendo que sea slider
00:58:92 (1) - Sobra ese spinner (!), no va con la canción :S, recomendaría hacer lo siguiente: haz un circle en este intervalo de tiempo: 00:59:346 (recomendable, no te estoy obligando) y luego sí el spinner, pero en 00:59:557
01:05:26 (3,4) - paralelos a 1 y 2, Horrible! o.o haz algo mejor pero no me gusta cómo están esos circles.

en general, piensa resnappear el map y trata a que no sea tan random los lugares donde colocas los items

Hard
SPOILER
00:20:89 (5) - feo slider con return para un hard u.u volvelos circles
00:42:86 (6) - ^ (personalmente me aburren esos sliders que van de un lado a otro más de 4 veces) y son horribles en mapas hard
01:08:32 (2) - aleja ese slider, confunde para el que juega abruptamente hard...xD

Eso es todo lo que vi

AdvanceBoy's Insane
SPOILER
wow...bastante bien, pero ya detecté problemas:
00:20:05 (2) - WTF! Posiciona mejor ese circle
00:23:00 (2) - casi fuera de pantalla, es casi unrankable
00:24:69 (3) - ese slider está mal ubicado en el lapso de tiempo
00:34:20 (1) - Quita ese New Combo
01:21:74 (1) - corta ese spinner 2/4 de beat, coloca un circle en 01:24:06 (1) - , ah, en el spinner usa time control points para silenciar el sonido del spinneo, tendrá mejor efecto para cuando toque pisar el circulo final que ando recomendando ^^

Shinde Style
SPOILER
no veo problemas, está Perfecto O.O
el mapa tiene potencial, doy star
Last edited by Jesss , edited 1 time in total.
Leeg
290 posts
Joined March 2009
Topic Starter
Leeg
Gracias, ha hice los cambios.
Por cierto, lo del nivel de Advanceboy al final queda chulisimo, has tenido una buena idea, enserio :D
H1ko
367 posts
Joined December 2008
H1ko
Buen mapa!
starrr
mtmcl
mtmcl
Decent map for a new mapper. You'll learn to loosen up a little more in your mapping over time. Shinde's difficulty is a lot of fun. Bubble.

Ouch, look at the post below this. I'm on a losing streak. Bubble popped.
Mystearica
Mystearica
um?

[Shinde's]

00:46:24 (4) - spacing...

[AdvanceBoy's]

00:18:50 (3) - unsnapped?
feels like a couple spacing errors too, hitsounds meh.

[Hard]

00:25:26 (5) unsnapped?
00:23:53 (5) - hm? resnap?

lots of other things to pick on as well but ok, nevermind that.

[Normal]

well...ok.

you guys should really work on hitsounds/arranging your notes and be careful with snapping...

Also I see BPM 142.001? Use 142 even?
Leeg
290 posts
Joined March 2009
Topic Starter
Leeg
Done! (not Shinde mods :D)
Shinde
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Shinde

Mystearica wrote:

[Shinde's]

00:46:24 (4) - spacing... Intentional, it's such a small increase I wouldn't even consider it a jump, and they're all symmetrical sliders so it shouldn't interfere with playability. I considered a new combo, but I don't think that'd look good..

Also I see BPM 142.001? Use 142 even?
Did do two small changes though, and knocked the .001 off the BPM. I'm assuming Leeg did that as well?

Download: MELL - Red Fraction (TV Size) (Leeg) [Shinde Style].osu
Leeg
290 posts
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Topic Starter
Leeg
Yes, i changed the BPM ^^.

Uploaded shinde fixed :p
Hitoshirenu Shourai
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990 posts
Here since the beginning
Hitoshirenu Shourai
o_o
varq
104 posts
Joined February 2008
varq

varq wrote:

Normal
00:14:98 (4) - This does not go with the song
00:15:008 - Place a beat here
00:20:89 (4) - Remove a repeat here
00:21:85 - Place a beat here
00:21:96 - Why did you make it soft here?
00:22:16 (5) - Make this repeat once
00:24:27 (1) - The second part of this slider doesn't go well with the song
00:36:95 (5) - This does not go with the song
00:39:48 (1) - Make this slider a 1/4 shorter
00:49:42 - Add a beat here
00:52:58 (4) - I don't like this slider, doesn't go well with the song
00:58:28 (2) - Move this a 1/4 back
00:58:72 - Add a beat here
01:09:90 (2) - Move this a 1/4 forward
01:04:09 (6) - Move a 1/4 forward (white tick)
01:04:83 (2) - This does not go with the vocals
01:06:74 (2) - Move this a 1/4 back

Hard
00:18:47 - Put a beat here
00:20:89 (5) - Remove a repeat from this slider
00:21:85 - Put a beat here
00:23:21 (4) - Make this a slider for 1/2 a beat
00:24:90 (4) - Make this a slider ending on where the (5) is
00:25:26 (5) - Remove this
00:26:81 (11) - Make this a slider lasting a 1/4
00:36:95 (5) - Make this a slider lasting a 1/4 OR 00:37:06 - Add a beat here
00:37:37 (7,8) - Remove these
00:37:79 (1) - Make this slider 3/4 of a beat, and make it repeat only once
00:38:65 - Add a beat here
00:41:17 (1,2,3,4,5) - Increase the spacing a bit here
00:44:55 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4) - Too much whistle
00:46:45 (2) - Make this a slider lasting a 1/2
00:46:67 (3) - Remove this
00:47:09 (5) - Make this a slider lasting a 1/4
01:04:83 (2) - Move this a 1/4 back
01:08:32 (2) - The reverse arrow here does not match with the song
01:10:75 (4) - Move this to the next white tick
01:11:38 (1,2,3) - Match these beats with the vocals
01:13:28 (1) - End the spinner at 01:14:77, it doesn't match Normal

Insane
00:14:98 (2) - Move this a 1/4 ahead
00:15:19 (3) - Remove this
00:16:45 (8) - Make this a hit circle
00:16:88 (9) - Move this to 00:16:67 and make it slider lasting a 1/4
00:19:41 (1) - Add another repeat to this slider
00:20:05 (2) - Remove this
00:24:69 (3) - This slider sounds weird
00:27:86 (2,3,4,5,6,7) - I don't like this pattern
00:31:24 (2,3,4,5,6) - ^
00:37:79 (1,2,3) - Doesn't go with the song
00:41:17 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - Hit sounds sound weird here.
01:03:78 (7) - Why is this 1/6 slider? It sounds bad
01:04:62 (1,2,3) - Slightly off the screen
01:20:89 (7) - Make this a slider

Overall, the hit sounds are inconsistent.

Remember, you don't have to change it if you don't want to. Some of these are just opinions.
I know I said these are suggestions, but I didn't see a single change to your map using any of my mods. PLEASE use these, I feel the map will be much better if you do. I feel extremely uncomfortable playing your map as is.
AngelHoney
2,155 posts
Joined May 2009
AngelHoney
hard

00 16 881 new combo?
00 21 529 remove note(8 9) and slider 00 21 529 to 00 21 740 , 00 21 952?
00 22 163 remove and 00 22 374 to 00 22 585?
00 26 705 new combo?
01 04 839 to 01 04 733?
01 12 022 new combo?

insane

00 37 902 remove(2 3) and 00 38 008 ,00 38 114 (4 5 6)00 38 325 , 431 , 536?
00 59 557 insert break time

nice map :) :)
star~
AdvanceBoy
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AdvanceBoy

varq wrote:

SPOILER

varq wrote:

Normal
00:14:98 (4) - This does not go with the song
00:15:008 - Place a beat here
00:20:89 (4) - Remove a repeat here
00:21:85 - Place a beat here
00:21:96 - Why did you make it soft here?
00:22:16 (5) - Make this repeat once
00:24:27 (1) - The second part of this slider doesn't go well with the song
00:36:95 (5) - This does not go with the song
00:39:48 (1) - Make this slider a 1/4 shorter
00:49:42 - Add a beat here
00:52:58 (4) - I don't like this slider, doesn't go well with the song
00:58:28 (2) - Move this a 1/4 back
00:58:72 - Add a beat here
01:09:90 (2) - Move this a 1/4 forward
01:04:09 (6) - Move a 1/4 forward (white tick)
01:04:83 (2) - This does not go with the vocals
01:06:74 (2) - Move this a 1/4 back

Hard
00:18:47 - Put a beat here
00:20:89 (5) - Remove a repeat from this slider
00:21:85 - Put a beat here
00:23:21 (4) - Make this a slider for 1/2 a beat
00:24:90 (4) - Make this a slider ending on where the (5) is
00:25:26 (5) - Remove this
00:26:81 (11) - Make this a slider lasting a 1/4
00:36:95 (5) - Make this a slider lasting a 1/4 OR 00:37:06 - Add a beat here
00:37:37 (7,8) - Remove these
00:37:79 (1) - Make this slider 3/4 of a beat, and make it repeat only once
00:38:65 - Add a beat here
00:41:17 (1,2,3,4,5) - Increase the spacing a bit here
00:44:55 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4) - Too much whistle
00:46:45 (2) - Make this a slider lasting a 1/2
00:46:67 (3) - Remove this
00:47:09 (5) - Make this a slider lasting a 1/4
01:04:83 (2) - Move this a 1/4 back
01:08:32 (2) - The reverse arrow here does not match with the song
01:10:75 (4) - Move this to the next white tick
01:11:38 (1,2,3) - Match these beats with the vocals
01:13:28 (1) - End the spinner at 01:14:77, it doesn't match Normal

Insane
00:14:98 (2) - Move this a 1/4 ahead
00:15:19 (3) - Remove this
00:16:45 (8) - Make this a hit circle
00:16:88 (9) - Move this to 00:16:67 and make it slider lasting a 1/4
00:19:41 (1) - Add another repeat to this slider
00:20:05 (2) - Remove this
00:24:69 (3) - This slider sounds weird
00:27:86 (2,3,4,5,6,7) - I don't like this pattern
00:31:24 (2,3,4,5,6) - ^
00:37:79 (1,2,3) - Doesn't go with the song
00:41:17 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - Hit sounds sound weird here.
01:03:78 (7) - Why is this 1/6 slider? It sounds bad
01:04:62 (1,2,3) - Slightly off the screen
01:20:89 (7) - Make this a slider

Overall, the hit sounds are inconsistent.

Remember, you don't have to change it if you don't want to. Some of these are just opinions.

I know I said these are suggestions, but I didn't see a single change to your map using any of my mods. PLEASE use these, I feel the map will be much better if you do. I feel extremely uncomfortable playing your map as is.
Ha ha, bad for you. If the map get's a bubble (2 actually) means is good enough to be ranked, without your nazi mod. Anyway, I disagreement the mostly, the rest is just nazi. Don't you think?

Right now, the only comments that concern are BATs ones, I think
Shinde
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Shinde

AdvanceBoy wrote:

Ha ha, bad for you. If the map get's a bubble (2 actually) means is good enough to be ranked, without your nazi mod. Anyway, I disagreement the mostly, the rest is just nazi. Don't you think?

Right now, the only comments that concern are BATs ones, I think
If a map got a bubble and it was popped, then apparently something was, or still is wrong.

You should review any mod post you get, even if it's already bubbled, unless you're just the kind of person that is worried about getting your maps ranked, not making them better and more fun.

BATs are still people, they can make mistakes or overlook things sometimes. Don't take other's mod posts lightly just because your map's been bubbled, you should at least look over it and see if you'd use any of the suggestions, especially after a person took the time to mod your map. *sigh*

Edit: Erm. Well, actually Leeg that was more directed at AdvanceBoy than you. Lol, no worries on your part. I just thought he was being rude.
Last edited by Shinde , edited 1 time in total.
Leeg
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Leeg
I've read varq post when he posted it the first time .___.' I don't like his "suggestions", sorry :o , but I appreciate his collaboration :)
AdvanceBoy
284 posts
Joined October 2008
AdvanceBoy
This map has been deleted on the request of its creator. It is no longer available.
Starrodkirby86
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Here since the beginning
Starrodkirby86
This map has been deleted on the request of its creator. It is no longer available.
Leeg
290 posts
Joined March 2009
Topic Starter
Leeg
Updated :o
Waiting for Shinde mods...
Shinde
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Shinde

Starrodkirby86 wrote:

[Shinde Style]:
00:53:114 (2) - Move 1/4 back and readjust spacing? Mm, yeah you're right it was a little late. She doesn't hold the note quite as long as I had it. I'm a tad embarrassed I had a note on the wrong tick tbh.
Done, thanks for the PM Leeg. Here you go.

Download: MELL - Red Fraction (TV Size) (Leeg) [Shinde Style].osu
Leeg
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Topic Starter
Leeg
Updated ! ^^
Jarby
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Jarby
+20 on offset. Use kiai on all difficulties? I don't know.

Normal:

00:27:044 (2) - Stack on slider's end.

Insane:

00:20:005 (2) - Stack on slider's repeat.
00:29:013 - This break is silly, map it.
00:32:093 - As above.
Leeg
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Topic Starter
Leeg
Updated! I didn't changed the offset and i didn't mapped those breaks ( i don't know how to map this, for me they're breaks wthout rythm)
Shinde
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Shinde

JarJarJacob wrote:

+20 on offset. Use kiai on all difficulties? I don't know.
What. Jar, offset's within about 4ms I'd say, did you get that glitched video d/l thing? I experienced that recently and it made me think the offset was off by like 25. I get like 3ms off on average in my plays in editor. If you look at it again, can you re-dl?
Jarby
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Jarby

Shinde wrote:

What. Jar, offset's within about 4ms I'd say, did you get that glitched video d/l thing? I experienced that recently and it made me think the offset was off by like 25. I get like 3ms off on average in my plays in editor. If you look at it again, can you re-dl?
In any case, the offset's fine now. I guess I can live with those breaks, too.
RemmyX25
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RemmyX25
Normal:
00:14:076 (3,4,5,6,7,8) - This looks extremely sloppy and is extremely difficult to read.
Overall this feels like it was just thrown together and not fun. (Yes I tried to play it.)

Hard:
Circle size does NOT have to be that small. I highly recommend raising the circle size slider up a bit.
01:08:032 (2) - This slider needs to be fixed. It sounds terrible. My recommendation would be to move it back one tick (so it starts on the red tick) and extend it so it ends on the white tick.
01:11:038 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - This sounds wierd when mapped to vocals
01:13:029 (1) - 7 second spinner? Nuh uh. Not going to happen. Cut this back to maybe 01:14:769

AdvanceBoy's Insane:
This is actually well done.

Shinde Style:
Also well done.
Leeg
290 posts
Joined March 2009
Topic Starter
Leeg
Updated... bye bye bubble :(
Diasios
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Joined August 2008
Diasios
Mod Info's:

Green: Suggestions.
Orange: I think you should fix this.
Red: You must fix this.

Starts Suggestions:

All seems ok.

[Normal]

It's ok

[Hard]

01:08:021 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - try this



[Advanceboy]

It's ok

[Shinde]

It's ok

Starred~
Leeg
290 posts
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Topic Starter
Leeg
nice :D updated!
Beuchi
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Beuchi
Modding time~

There's a strange problem with your diffis, Leeg. It may be the rythm you're taking to map it, or maybe it's the style you're using, those overlapping circles are, in my honest opinion, really ugly x_x'

Of course, if you don't like the suggestions I'm giving here, you don't have to change them. :3

~Normal~
- Set Beat Snap Divisor on 1/2, then resnap. After doing this:

00:16:045 (8) - Finish this on white tick.
00:18:036 (5) - Move to white tick.
00:18:994 (-) - Add a note here.
00:23:642 (-) - Add a note here.
00:24:027 (1) - Could you move the reverse slider arrow point a bit? It' almost offscreen >.<
00:37:037 (6) - Move 1/2 earlier (red tick)
00:37:079 (1,2) - Make another repeat on this and move (2) 1/2 later (white tick)
00:44:055 (1) - Again, move the reverse slider arrow point, it's offscreen :S
00:49:020 (4,5,6,7,8) - So messy... :(
00:54:048 (5) - Put this behind (4)'s end.
00:56:081 (6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5) - So so messy! Those almost overlapping circles are so ugly x.x...
00:59:055 (1) - Finish this on the next white tick.
01:03:014 (3) - Move 1/2 later (white tick)
01:03:099 (6) - Move 1/2 later (white tick)
01:08:000 (1,2,3,4) - So messy again with strange overlappings...

~Hard~
00:20:089 (5) - New Combo.
00:22:016 (1) - Put this behind (2) of the previous combo (if you didn't change the new combo earlier, it's (6) )
00:25:096 (7) - New Combo.
00:48:036 (1) - Delete New Combo.
00:49:020 (6) - New Combo.
00:54:006 (1) - Ugly "almost overlapped" :S
01:03:088 (6) - Delete this note, it sounds way better :<
01:09:069 (1) - Wtf spacing, fix this D:!
01:13:029 (1) - Finish this 1 note earlier (white tick).

~AdvanceBoy's Insane~
00:52:079 (6) - Half of this is offscreen D:
01:20:089 (7) - This note is... imo, unnecesary o.o'
01:21:031 (8) - New Combo?.

~Shinde Style~
So nice ;).
Leeg
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Leeg
This map has been deleted on the request of its creator. It is no longer available.
Nerv_Mario
146 posts
Joined October 2008
Nerv_Mario
Interesante map :D
Lo unico malo es que algunas notas no estan bien ubicadas en la escala de tiempo :o

(me expresaré en español que ambos conocemos para que sea más facil xD)

Mod:
(para empezar pon el beat snap 1/4, ya que la canción es algo cambiante en el ritmo, pero no abuses de el tampoco)

[Normal]
00:14:980 (4) - muévelo a 00:15:085 y ubicalo con el distance snap
00:18:360 (5) - muévelo a 00:18:466
00:18:994 (7) - elimínalo, ya que es algo inecesario para un normal
00:19:205 - aquí pon un hit circle y que sea el new combo de las notas de después (recuerda usar el distance snap)
00:20:895 (5) - el slider haz que se repita solo hasta 00:21:529
00:21:846 - aquí agrega un hit circle y usando distance snap
00:23:008 - agrega un hit circle
00:24:276 (1) - muévelo a 00:24:064 y hazlo mas largo (devolvíendose en 00:25:543), cosa que el slider termine hasta 00:27:022 (fíjate que el slider no quede fuera de los límites)
00:37:374 (6) - muévelo a 00:37:163 o si quieres elimínalo
00:37:797 (1) - haz que el slider se devuelva en 00:38:114 y que termine en 00:38:431
00:38:853 (2) - muévelo a 00:38:747
00:41:388 (2) y (4) - ambos muévelos al blue tick de después
00:44:557 (1) - muévelo a 00:44:346
00:58:078 (2) - muévelo al blue tick de después
01:03:360 (3) - muévelo al blue tick anterior
01:08:219 (2) - muévelo al blue tick de después
01:09:909 (2) - muévelo al blue tick de después

[Hard]
00:14:980 (4) - muévelo al blue tick de después
00:21:740 (5) - muévelo al blue tick de después
00:34:628 (2) y (4) - muévelos al blue tick de después
00:37:374 (6) - muévelo a 00:37:163 (no te sigas olvidando del distance snap)
00:37:585 (7) - puedes dejarlo o eliminarlo, si lo dejas debe ser new combo de las notas posteriores
01:03:783 (5) - esta parte está muy enredada (muchas personas se confundirán), ubica las notas rojas de esa parte un poco más ordenadas
01:10:015 (2) - muévelo al red tick anterior
01:10:332 (3) - no me gusta como se escucha, mejor alargalo hasta 01:10:543 y que no se devuelva
01:12:022 - aquí pon un hit circle (y no sigas olvidando al distance snap)

[AdvanceBoy's Insane]
00:27:867 - esta parte está algo enredada Dx, ordena mejor esa parte que un poco inentendible

[Shinde Style]
No Problems, Nice :D


- Si haces cambios de offset en una diff. debes hacerlos con las demás y hacer resnap all notes con el 1/4 beat snap (ya que se usa mucho en este map)
- No olvides usar el distance snap sabiamente
- Recuerda que el beat snap 1/4 generalmente no es usado en normales (pero esto es una excepción)

Cuando vuelva a ver este map quiero verlo rankeado :3
~Star~ y mucha suerte <3
Leeg
290 posts
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Topic Starter
Leeg

Nerv_Mario wrote:

Interesante map :D
Lo unico malo es que algunas notas no estan bien ubicadas en la escala de tiempo :o

(me expresaré en español que ambos conocemos para que sea más facil xD)

Mod:
(para empezar pon el beat snap 1/4, ya que la canción es algo cambiante en el ritmo, pero no abuses de el tampoco)
Perdona, defintivamente en NORMAL dejare 1/2 U_U''

[Normal]
00:14:980 (4) - muévelo a 00:15:085 y ubicalo con el distance snap Mucho se ha discutido sobre esta nota y yo sigo viendola bien donde esta.U__U
00:18:360 (5) - muévelo a 00:18:466 No.
00:18:994 (7) - elimínalo, ya que es algo inecesario para un normal mmm, mejor lo cambio de sitio, pero no lo elimino, deja esa parte demasiado vacia :S
00:19:205 - aquí pon un hit circle y que sea el new combo de las notas de después (recuerda usar el distance snap) Eso ya es pasarse, como bien dijiste antes, es NORMAL XD
00:20:895 (5) - el slider haz que se repita solo hasta 00:21:529 No es 5, es 4 y no me gusta si le quito una repeticion, queda demasiado vacio :S
00:21:846 - aquí agrega un hit circle y usando distance snap ... es NORMAL, quedaria demasiado dificil
00:23:008 - agrega un hit circle Vale :p
00:24:276 (1) - muévelo a 00:24:064 y hazlo mas largo (devolvíendose en 00:25:543), cosa que el slider termine hasta . O no te he entendido o esto queda fatal O_O
00:27:022 (fíjate que el slider no quede fuera de los límites) Ya :p
00:37:374 (6) - muévelo a 00:37:163 o si quieres elimínalo Mejor moverlo :p
00:37:797 (1) - haz que el slider se devuelva en 00:38:114 y que termine en 00:38:431 No O_O
00:38:853 (2) - muévelo a 00:38:747 No O_O
00:41:388 (2) y (4) - ambos muévelos al blue tick de después No uso ese distance snap, asi que no
00:44:557 (1) - muévelo a 00:44:346 Si, queda mejor ^^
00:58:078 (2) - muévelo al blue tick de después No uso ese distance snap.
01:03:360 (3) - muévelo al blue tick anterior No uso ese distance snap.
01:08:219 (2) - muévelo al blue tick de después No uso ese distance snap
01:09:909 (2) - muévelo al blue tick de después No uso ese distance snap.

[Hard]
00:14:980 (4) - muévelo al blue tick de después Te digo lo mismo que en NORMAL. XD
00:21:740 (5) - muévelo al blue tick de después Si :D
00:34:628 (2) y (4) - muévelos al blue tick de después Igual que en el primero XD no lo cambio, perdon
00:37:374 (6) - muévelo a 00:37:163 (no te sigas olvidando del distance snap) Si
00:37:585 (7) - puedes dejarlo o eliminarlo, si lo dejas debe ser new combo de las notas posteriores Claro
01:03:783 (5) - esta parte está muy enredada (muchas personas se confundirán), ubica las notas rojas de esa parte un poco más ordenadas A mi me encanta como lo tengo puesto D: de todas formas en muchos otros beatmaps tienes que jugar varias veces para ver las cosas bien :D
01:10:015 (2) - muévelo al red tick anterior Si mola :D
01:10:332 (3) - no me gusta como se escucha, mejor alargalo hasta 01:10:543 y que no se devuelva No, no lo cambio ^^'
01:12:022 - aquí pon un hit circle (y no sigas olvidando al distance snap) Si, faltaba eso ^^'

[AdvanceBoy's Insane]
00:27:867 - esta parte está algo enredada Dx, ordena mejor esa parte que un poco inentendible
Lo sabia.. en fin , a cambiarlo xD

[Shinde Style]
No Problems, Nice :DGuay


- Si haces cambios de offset en una diff. debes hacerlos con las demás y hacer resnap all notes con el 1/4 beat snap (ya que se usa mucho en este map)
- No olvides usar el distance snap sabiamente
- Recuerda que el beat snap 1/4 generalmente no es usado en normales (pero esto es una excepción)

Cuando vuelva a ver este map quiero verlo rankeado :3
~Star~ y mucha suerte <3

Gracias mil!
NoHitter
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NoHitter
Overall
Delete the .osb file and full submit
I find that the hitsound volume is too loud
Some diffs don't have kiai time...

Normal
00:22:797 (X) - Add note here

Shinde Style
Combo colors are different.
Leeg
290 posts
Joined March 2009
Topic Starter
Leeg
Done
Shinde
osu! Alumni
707 posts
Joined April 2009
Shinde

NoHItter wrote:

Shinde Style
Combo colors are different.
Of course.

Lack of modding on mine is making me feel too complacent. I will be awaiting disaster to my difficulty at some point. That's beatmap karma, yup.

As always, Leeg PM me if someone should post, I've only been checking every 3~ days at this point. =(
Ephemeral
Inland Empire
3,963 posts
Joined April 2009
Ephemeral
I agree with Remmy's sentiments here. Normal feels rushed and isn't at all fun to play - too much emphasis on spacing and red notes coupled with some very linear pathing makes the map feel choked - at least to me.

Shinde Style should have 1 tick rate
Equalize kiai time across all difficulties

[Normal]
00:20:895 (4) - New combo

[Hard]
01:04:205 (7) - Move forward to the white tick (I understand shifting it to the blue for accuracy but this is just going to combobreak most people who haven't played the map extensively before and it works just as well on the white tick)
Leeg
290 posts
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Topic Starter
Leeg
Thanks for modding.
I'm not going to add kiai to my difficulties.
Fixed Normal and Hard mods. But I don't know hot to make NORMAL more funny D:
Lilac
Elite Mapper
1,515 posts
Joined December 2008
Lilac
We just had the same map got ranked with 8 SP...

And this has 56...
Leeg
290 posts
Joined March 2009
Topic Starter
Leeg
Of course, the mapper was a BAT . They don't have tu put (TV Size) in the maps name or things like this,they just rank their own maps when they want, my god... that isn't fair.
I don't know if deleting the map ... I wonder why if I have 8 BAT stars, it isn't ranked yet... also I've applied all mods...
...
I hope mine will be better, it has more difficulties and is 9 month old.
I don't know anything, I just think the system doesn't work...
Kytoxid
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Kytoxid
Somewhere in this mess of mods, I don't have one here? Wow. Let's get things fixed up.

[General]

Since this is a TV size, I'm assuming there should be a source. (Black Lagoon, judging from the tags)
Most of the tags are redundant, since they are already in the title or source. Remove them.
Add AdvanceBoy and Shinde to all tags.
Shinde Style has a video offset of -105 milliseconds; the other difficulties have no video offset. Any reason?
You have an .osb that's not necessary, you can delete it and full upload.
All the difficulties have different hitcircle colours; is this intentional?
The background image is pretty low-res, is there a higher-res one available?
Shinde Style has unrankably low stack leniency.
Consider making an Easy, although it isn't strictly necessary by any means.

[Normal]

Your combos could generally be split into 2 smaller combos each, since this is the easiest difficulty. Your call.

00:14:013 (1,2,3,4,5) - Doesn't feel like it follows the music all that well; consider removing 2, 4.
00:18:036 (5) - Sounds out of place. If you want to avoid notes on blue ticks, remove it entirely.
00:18:078 (6) - Start the red combo here instead.
00:20:089 (4) - Would be much better with 1 less repeat and a note at 00:21:084 (on the blue tick). Also, should definitely have a new combo.
00:22:016 (5) - If you keep this slider soft like this, lower hitsound volume on the other notes so that it isn't such a sudden random drop.
00:23:043 (9) - Similarly, remove this note.
00:24:006 (1) - I'm not sure this slider is appropriate here. (sounds a little weird)
00:37:079 (1,2) - Difficult, since it's hard to predict the end of the slider.
00:41:017 (1,2,3,4,5) - See the first comment.
00:47:072 (1) - Consider distance snapping this note.
01:08:000 (1,2,3,4) - Shift these left a grid to be symmetrical with 5.

[Hard]

Being a Hard, you could put more notes on 1/4 as long as they follow the music. I found that half of your map did this, while the other half did not, making it seem confusing to play.

00:14:098 (4) - Sounds a bit better 1/4 later.
00:18:057 (1) - Remove?
00:26:017 (2,3,4) - Inconsistent spacing.
01:02:072 (1,2,3) - Shift these a grid right to center them?
01:04:020 (7) - Move this 1/4 earlier, and put it in a better position.
01:08:021 (2) - Start this 1/4 later,
01:09:069 (1,2) - Felt kinda awkward to play.
01:12:086 (6,7) - Put a note in between these?

[AdvanceBoy's Insane]

00:14:098 (2,3,4,5,6,7) - Ouch, that's tough to play. If you keep it though, make 3,5,7 and 2,4,6 parallel and straight?
00:18:014 (2,3) - Parallel to 1, 4?
00:20:005 (2) - Stack this note under the repeat a bit neater.
00:27:044 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - Tricky. XD
01:21:074 (1,1) - Don't silence these; make them quieter if you'd like.

[Shinde Style]

See the comments in General too.

This difficulty scores a measly 50k above AdvanceBoy's Insane, lol, while being easier (for me at least). Just an observation.

00:53:000 (2,1) - Antijump, but not too bad.

Plays very nicely.
Leeg
290 posts
Joined March 2009
Topic Starter
Leeg

Kytoxid wrote:

Somewhere in this mess of mods, I don't have one here? Wow. Let's get things fixed up.

[General]

Since this is a TV size, I'm assuming there should be a source. (Black Lagoon, judging from the tags) Done.
Most of the tags are redundant, since they are already in the title or source. Remove them. Done
Add AdvanceBoy and Shinde to all tags.Done
Shinde Style has a video offset of -105 milliseconds; the other difficulties have no video offset. Any reason?I don't know
You have an .osb that's not necessary, you can delete it and full upload.Done
All the difficulties have different hitcircle colours; is this intentional?Yes
The background image is pretty low-res, is there a higher-res one available?No
Shinde Style has unrankably low stack leniency.I don't know what's that.
Consider making an Easy, although it isn't strictly necessary by any means. THERE IS ONE MAP RANKED THAT HAS THE SAME SONG WITH ONLY TWO DIFFICULTIES. NO WAY!!!!!!!!!!

[Normal]

Your combos could generally be split into 2 smaller combos each, since this is the easiest difficulty. Your call.

00:14:013 (1,2,3,4,5) - Doesn't feel like it follows the music all that well; consider removing 2, 4.No.
00:18:036 (5) - Sounds out of place. If you want to avoid notes on blue ticks, remove it entirely. There aren't blue ticks
00:18:078 (6) - Start the red combo here instead. Ok
00:20:089 (4) - Would be much better with 1 less repeat and a note at 00:21:084 (on the blue tick). Also, should definitely have a new combo.No, I tried before.
00:22:016 (5) - If you keep this slider soft like this, lower hitsound volume on the other notes so that it isn't such a sudden random drop. ¿?
00:23:043 (9) - Similarly, remove this note.No
00:24:006 (1) - I'm not sure this slider is appropriate here. (sounds a little weird)Any better idea?
00:37:079 (1,2) - Difficult, since it's hard to predict the end of the slider. It's normal, not easy
00:41:017 (1,2,3,4,5) - See the first comment.Seen
00:47:072 (1) - Consider distance snapping this note.Yeah, done
01:08:000 (1,2,3,4) - Shift these left a grid to be symmetrical with 5. Think it's fixed.

[Hard]

Being a Hard, you could put more notes on 1/4 as long as they follow the music. I found that half of your map did this, while the other half did not, making it seem confusing to play.

00:14:098 (4) - Sounds a bit better 1/4 later.I've changed this soooo many times... my god 8 mod pages...
00:18:057 (1) - Remove?No
00:26:017 (2,3,4) - Inconsistent spacing. It's correct D:
01:02:072 (1,2,3) - Shift these a grid right to center them?Done
01:04:020 (7) - Move this 1/4 earlier, and put it in a better position.mmm moved
01:08:021 (2) - Start this 1/4 later, Ok
01:09:069 (1,2) - Felt kinda awkward to play.D: sorry?
01:12:086 (6,7) - Put a note in between these?Done

[AdvanceBoy's Insane]

00:14:098 (2,3,4,5,6,7) - Ouch, that's tough to play. If you keep it though, make 3,5,7 and 2,4,6 parallel and straight?I won't change that
00:18:014 (2,3) - Parallel to 1, 4? I won't change that
00:20:005 (2) - Stack this note under the repeat a bit neater.D: It's correct D:
00:27:044 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - Tricky. XDWelcome to Insane
01:21:074 (1,1) - Don't silence these; make them quieter if you'd like. D: It's Ok

[Shinde Style] That's up to shinde

See the comments in General too.

This difficulty scores a measly 50k above AdvanceBoy's Insane, lol, while being easier (for me at least). Just an observation.

00:53:000 (2,1) - Antijump, but not too bad.

Plays very nicely.
Thanks a lot.
Dusty
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Dusty
[Shinde]
00:21:084 (1) - Bezier slider instead?
00:29:034 (4) - ^?

[AdvanceBoy's]
Don't use so many 1 or 1/2-beat long sliders starting on white ticks in this song, because this song doesn't have many one-beat long lyrics that start on white ticks.

00:16:045 (9) - does not match lyrics
00:24:069 (3,5) - ^
00:26:081 (8) - Shorten by 1/4
00:31:035 (3,4,5,6) - Zig-zag?
00:37:079 (1,2,3,4) - ^? Straight up/down beat patterns are awful.
00:41:017 (1) - 1 grid to right.
00:44:055 (1,2,3) - If you're going to have straight line patterns, at least make sure the lines are straight
00:47:009 (9) - shorten
01:06:031 (6) - This slider is ugly. It's too wide
01:09:069 (3,4,5) - Awkward sounding; 1-beat long sliders.
01:21:074 (1) - Silenced spinners are among the worst things ever.
01:24:006 (1) - Silenced notes are worse, and IMO shouldn't be rankable.

[Hard]
00:44:055 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4) - 10 whistles in a row is too much.
01:04:010 (7) - Right 1 grid. Disable distance snap if you have to.
01:08:032 (2) - Shorten by 1/4?

[Normal]
This difficulty looks too much like a box. When most of the map has right-angle patterns and straight lines, it feels too rectangular and awkward.

00:24:006 (1) - This hockey stick shaped slider is weird, make more of a normal curve?

Leeg wrote:

Kytoxid wrote:

Consider making an Easy, although it isn't strictly necessary by any means. THERE IS ONE MAP RANKED THAT HAS THE SAME SONG WITH ONLY TWO DIFFICULTIES. NO WAY!!!!!!!!!!
Easy+ attached? You can use it if you want.

Download: MELL - Red Fraction (TV Size) (Leeg) [Dusty's Easy+].osu
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Dusty wrote:

[Shinde] That's up to shinde
00:21:084 (1) - Bezier slider instead?
00:29:034 (4) - ^?

[AdvanceBoy's]
Don't use so many 1 or 1/2-beat long sliders starting on white ticks in this song, because this song doesn't have many one-beat long lyrics that start on white ticks.

00:16:045 (9) - does not match lyrics D: I think it matchs
00:24:069 (3,5) - ^ ^
00:26:081 (8) - Shorten by 1/4Too short
00:31:035 (3,4,5,6) - Zig-zag?No, it would be impossible to do that
00:37:079 (1,2,3,4) - ^? Straight up/down beat patterns are awful.D: I'm not going to change it
00:41:017 (1) - 1 grid to right. Done
00:44:055 (1,2,3) - If you're going to have straight line patterns, at least make sure the lines are straight It's straight
00:47:009 (9) - shortenToo short
01:06:031 (6) - This slider is ugly. It's too wide D: any idea?
01:09:069 (3,4,5) - Awkward sounding; 1-beat long sliders. D:No..
01:21:074 (1) - Silenced spinners are among the worst things ever. That's your point of view...
01:24:006 (1) - Silenced notes are worse, and IMO shouldn't be rankable.It's NOT silenced.

[Hard]
00:44:055 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4) - 10 whistles in a row is too much. I've seen maps totally whistled
01:04:010 (7) - Right 1 grid. Disable distance snap if you have to. Ok
01:08:032 (2) - Shorten by 1/4? Sure!

[Normal]
This difficulty looks too much like a box. When most of the map has right-angle patterns and straight lines, it feels too rectangular and awkward.

00:24:006 (1) - This hockey stick shaped slider is weird, make more of a normal curve?Done
Shinde
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Ephemeral wrote:

Shinde Style should have 1 tick rate Ok sure.
Equalize kiai time across all difficulties If there are two guest difficulties, I don't see why having the same kiai on all difficulties is required. I myself want the kiai and soft sampleset where I put it in mine, and I don't think Leeg and AdvanceBoy should have to put Kiai there just because I did it. Don't really think this is a problem or necessary.

Kytoxid wrote:

[General]

Since this is a TV size, I'm assuming there should be a source. (Black Lagoon, judging from the tags)
Most of the tags are redundant, since they are already in the title or source. Remove them. Done on mine now I think.
Add AdvanceBoy and Shinde to all tags. ^
Shinde Style has a video offset of -105 milliseconds; the other difficulties have no video offset. Any reason? I originally thought the video needed a slight negative offset and talked to Leeg about this, but I guess if the other three diffs didn't take it, I'll just reset it to 0. Actually, I still think it needs one.
You have an .osb that's not necessary, you can delete it and full upload.
All the difficulties have different hitcircle colours; is this intentional? Yes.
The background image is pretty low-res, is there a higher-res one available?
Shinde Style has unrankably low stack leniency. Fixed? I made this like 4 months ago when 0.2 wasn't a problem. With recent events though I suppose you're right.
Consider making an Easy, although it isn't strictly necessary by any means. I don't think this is necessary, just sayin'. Plus that'd reset the modding process, which is already taking ages as-is.

[Shinde Style]

See the comments in General too.

This difficulty scores a measly 50k above AdvanceBoy's Insane, lol, while being easier (for me at least). Just an observation. I dropped tick rate from 2 to 1, and it dropped 100k off the score so this shouldn't be a problem(?) now.
00:53:000 (2,1) - Antijump, but not too bad. Well it is a Hard difficulty map, a little antijump with a slider next note shouldn't be that difficult to read.

Plays very nicely. Thanks.

Dusty wrote:

[Shinde]
00:21:084 (1) - Bezier slider instead? Nah, I wanted some linear sliders to offset the bezier ones otherwise I would've had them bezier.
00:29:034 (4) - ^? ^
Leeg I still think the map's video needs a slight negative offset. Judge if you agree or not, I was thinking -110~. Feel free to change any Tags, the Source, or the Video Offset on mine to conform with the other three difficulties. Yupyup.

Also, ztrot you suck. Bastard. >:( Lol, I already told you we were mapping this. T_T

I'm beginning to lose interest and faith in this getting ranked. 9 months is far too long, and with ztrot's getting ranked, I doubt this one will now.

Download: MELL - Red Fraction (TV Size) (Leeg) [Shinde Style].osu
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Then, updated.
Dusty
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Dusty wrote:

[Normal]
This difficulty looks too much like a box. When most of the map has right-angle patterns and straight lines, it feels too rectangular and awkward.
Do you mind fixing this one? It's been mentioned before (and by BATs, too, so if you're wondering why they haven't bubbled it yet, it's because of this):

RemmyX25 wrote:

Normal:
00:14:076 (3,4,5,6,7,8) - This looks extremely sloppy and is extremely difficult to read.
Overall this feels like it was just thrown together and not fun. (Yes I tried to play it.)

Ephemeral wrote:

I agree with Remmy's sentiments here. Normal feels rushed and isn't at all fun to play - too much emphasis on spacing and red notes coupled with some very linear pathing makes the map feel choked - at least to me.
Modding isn't just about giving you time codes with things that need fixing. You also have to look at the general comments and fix those issues if you want your map ranked, because those comments usually mean that there are too many changes that need to be made for the modder to list all of them.

[Normal]
00:14:013 (1,2,3,4...) to 01:11:038 (1) - Rearrange the notes so that they look better. Look in the Mapping Techniques forum for ideas if you need to.
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Well.. i made some changes in [Normal], let's see if now it's more playable D:
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Ok, I was asked by eph mod this

Normal: enable 1/4 timing
this map has very odd timing so it's best to place the beats where they make the most sense.
00:14:034 (2) - move to the blue tick on the right and kill the clap.
00:14:098 (4) - ^
00:18:036 (5) - place on the blue tick to the right.
00:20:089 (6) - Kill 2 returns on this slider, and make another slider at 00:21:529 that ends at 00:21:846. blue tick
00:37:079 (1) - Same as ^ but the times for the new slider are, start 00:38:431 finish 00:38:747 blue tick.
00:41:038 (2) - move to the blue tick on the right and kill the clap.
00:42:002 (4) - ^
00:58:007 (2) - move to the blue tick on the right
01:08:021 (2) - move to the blue tick on the right
01:09:090 (2) - move to the blue tick on the right

Hard:
Use what I gave you from normal try to have your beats land on the parts that make the most sense.
BTW if you want you can use my gunshot hitsound I won't mind :D
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Shinde wrote:

Ephemeral wrote:

Shinde Style should have 1 tick rate Ok sure.
Equalize kiai time across all difficulties If there are two guest difficulties, I don't see why having the same kiai on all difficulties is required. I myself want the kiai and soft sampleset where I put it in mine, and I don't think Leeg and AdvanceBoy should have to put Kiai there just because I did it. Don't really think this is a problem or necessary.

Kytoxid wrote:

[General]

Since this is a TV size, I'm assuming there should be a source. (Black Lagoon, judging from the tags)
Most of the tags are redundant, since they are already in the title or source. Remove them. Done on mine now I think.
Add AdvanceBoy and Shinde to all tags. ^
Shinde Style has a video offset of -105 milliseconds; the other difficulties have no video offset. Any reason? I originally thought the video needed a slight negative offset and talked to Leeg about this, but I guess if the other three diffs didn't take it, I'll just reset it to 0. Actually, I still think it needs one.
You have an .osb that's not necessary, you can delete it and full upload.
All the difficulties have different hitcircle colours; is this intentional? Yes.
The background image is pretty low-res, is there a higher-res one available?
Shinde Style has unrankably low stack leniency. Fixed? I made this like 4 months ago when 0.2 wasn't a problem. With recent events though I suppose you're right.
Consider making an Easy, although it isn't strictly necessary by any means. I don't think this is necessary, just sayin'. Plus that'd reset the modding process, which is already taking ages as-is.

[Shinde Style]

See the comments in General too.

This difficulty scores a measly 50k above AdvanceBoy's Insane, lol, while being easier (for me at least). Just an observation. I dropped tick rate from 2 to 1, and it dropped 100k off the score so this shouldn't be a problem(?) now.
00:53:000 (2,1) - Antijump, but not too bad. Well it is a Hard difficulty map, a little antijump with a slider next note shouldn't be that difficult to read.

Plays very nicely. Thanks.

Dusty wrote:

[Shinde]
00:21:084 (1) - Bezier slider instead? Nah, I wanted some linear sliders to offset the bezier ones otherwise I would've had them bezier.
00:29:034 (4) - ^? ^
Leeg I still think the map's video needs a slight negative offset. Judge if you agree or not, I was thinking -110~. Feel free to change any Tags, the Source, or the Video Offset on mine to conform with the other three difficulties. Yupyup.

Also, ztrot you suck. Bastard. >:( Lol, I already told you we were mapping this. T_T

I'm beginning to lose interest and faith in this getting ranked. 9 months is far too long, and with ztrot's getting ranked, I doubt this one will now.
It will because I'm gonna make sure it does >:)
Leeg
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ztrot wrote:

Ok, I was asked by eph mod this

Normal: enable 1/4 timing
this map has very odd timing so it's best to place the beats where they make the most sense.
00:14:034 (2) - move to the blue tick on the right and kill the clap.
00:14:098 (4) - ^
00:18:036 (5) - place on the blue tick to the right.
00:20:089 (6) - Kill 2 returns on this slider, and make another slider at 00:21:529 that ends at 00:21:846. blue tick
00:37:079 (1) - Same as ^ but the times for the new slider are, start 00:38:431 finish 00:38:747 blue tick.
00:41:038 (2) - move to the blue tick on the right and kill the clap.
00:42:002 (4) - ^
00:58:007 (2) - move to the blue tick on the right
01:08:021 (2) - move to the blue tick on the right
01:09:090 (2) - move to the blue tick on the right

Hard:
Use what I gave you from normal try to have your beats land on the parts that make the most sense.
BTW if you want you can use my gunshot hitsound I won't mind :D
YOURS? ... wtf!? I was the first one that put gunshots in this song. Exactly 9 months ago, when I submitted the map, and then... I had to eliminate them because everybody said that was horrible ¬¬U.

All done
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[Normal]
00:58:081 (4) - put on the white tick before
01:02:019 (2) - ^

[Hard]
00:44:055 (1,2,3) - Clap instead of whistle
00:45:082 (6) - Finish instead of whistle
00:46:024 (1,2,3) - Clap instead of whistle
ztrot
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ztrot

Leeg wrote:

ztrot wrote:

Ok, I was asked by eph mod this

Normal: enable 1/4 timing
this map has very odd timing so it's best to place the beats where they make the most sense.
00:14:034 (2) - move to the blue tick on the right and kill the clap.
00:14:098 (4) - ^
00:18:036 (5) - place on the blue tick to the right.
00:20:089 (6) - Kill 2 returns on this slider, and make another slider at 00:21:529 that ends at 00:21:846. blue tick
00:37:079 (1) - Same as ^ but the times for the new slider are, start 00:38:431 finish 00:38:747 blue tick.
00:41:038 (2) - move to the blue tick on the right and kill the clap.
00:42:002 (4) - ^
00:58:007 (2) - move to the blue tick on the right
01:08:021 (2) - move to the blue tick on the right
01:09:090 (2) - move to the blue tick on the right

Hard:
Use what I gave you from normal try to have your beats land on the parts that make the most sense.
BTW if you want you can use my gunshot hitsound I won't mind :D
YOURS? ... wtf!? I was the first one that put gunshots in this song. Exactly 9 months ago, when I submitted the map, and then... I had to eliminate them because everybody said that was horrible ¬¬U.

All done
Yeah I know but I think our idea of the gunshot hitsound might have been a bit diff Idk I never heard it.
the gunshot i use kinda blends with the music cuz it's not very loud.
LOL I had no Idea this was mapped till after I had finished my ver T.T sorry.
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ztrot wrote:

Yeah I know but I think our idea of the gunshot hitsound might have been a bit diff Idk I never heard it.
the gunshot i use kinda blends with the music cuz it's not very loud.
LOL I had no Idea this was mapped till after I had finished my ver T.T sorry.
... you gave me a star at least 2 months ago... don't lie.
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ztrot was drunk then, he does that sometimes.

Hi ztrot. xd

Still waiting for mods on mine.
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General
-why Shinde Style have different source than the other?
-Source should be capitalized.
-Also, why there is differents tags?
-Remove "opening" from tags in AdvanceBoy's Insane
-Keep Black Lagoon as Source, and red fraction in tags.

Shinde Style
00:16:459 (4) - add a repeat
00:17:304 - add note
00:34:205 - add note
00:38:642 - add note
00:39:064 (5) - remove note
00:53:431 (1) - too close to prev circle
00:53:431 (1,2,3) - this slider doesnt fit here, how about this: a note at:00:53:431, then a slider from here: 00:53:642 to 00:54:064, and a note at 00:54:487.
00:55:543 (6) - remove note
00:56:071 - add note
00:58:078 (2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - streams doesnt fit imo
01:08:853 (4) - finish this slid at 01:09:276
01:12:550 (3) - remove
01:12:867 - add note here
01:13:078 (4) - move the start of the spinner 1/2 beat later, and add note here

AdvanceBoy's Insane
so random placing of beats
00:14:135 (1) - wrong spacing
00:23:430 (2) - wrong spacing
00:23:430 (2) - end this slid at 00:23:536
00:24:698 (3,4,5) - dont fit the music imo
00:26:811 (8) - end at 00:26:916
00:28:184 (4,5,6,7) - confusing, keep all stacked
00:37:797 (1,2,3) - triple doesnt fits
00:53:008 (7) - too close to 6, and make it a new combo plz

Hard
00:14:346 (2) - remove
00:34:628 (2) - move 1/2 beat later
00:35:262 (4) - move 1/4 beat later
00:37:163 (6) - move 1/4 beat earlier
00:53:008 (9) - 1/4 later
consider incrase hp drain and overall diff, this is supose to be Hard

Normal
notes ins 1/4 beat are lil hard to read, can you use slid to get it better, like for example:
00:14:135 (1,2,3,4,5) - you can use a slider from: 00:14:135 (1) to 00:14:452, then repeat 3 times
just to make it more easier to read, since this is normal, try to apply some of this in the rest of the map.
00:21:952 - unsilence timing section ( suggestion )
00:37:797 (1) - too close to prev note
00:52:797 (4) - i like how this slider follow the rhythm... try some like this one

edit: lol forget to star n.nU
Last edited by Lizbeth , edited 1 time in total.
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Lizbeth wrote:

General
-why Shinde Style have different source than the other? Fixed
-Source should be capitalized.Fixed
-Also, why there is differents tags? Fixed
-Remove "opening" from tags in AdvanceBoy's Insane Why?
-Keep Black Lagoon as Source, and red fraction in tags. Fixed

Shinde Style This is up to shinde :)
00:16:459 (4) - add a repeat
00:17:304 - add note
00:34:205 - add note
00:38:642 - add note
00:39:064 (5) - remove note
00:53:431 (1) - too close to prev circle
00:53:431 (1,2,3) - this slider doesnt fit here, how about this: a note at:00:53:431, then a slider from here: 00:53:642 to 00:54:064, and a note at 00:54:487.
00:55:543 (6) - remove note
00:56:071 - add note
00:58:078 (2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - streams doesnt fit imo
01:08:853 (4) - finish this slid at 01:09:276
01:12:550 (3) - remove
01:12:867 - add note here
01:13:078 (4) - move the start of the spinner 1/2 beat later, and add note here

AdvanceBoy's Insane
so random placing of beats
00:14:135 (1) - wrong spacing Fixed
00:23:430 (2) - wrong spacing Fixed
00:23:430 (2) - end this slid at 00:23:536 ¿? You mean 00:23:642 right? O_O I can't make it shorter
00:24:698 (3,4,5) - dont fit the music imo U__U'' it fits.
00:26:811 (8) - end at 00:26:916You mean 00:27:22...right? D: I can't make it shorter
00:28:184 (4,5,6,7) - confusing, keep all stacked Is not confusing O_O
00:37:797 (1,2,3) - triple doesnt fits Double then.
00:53:008 (7) - too close to 6, and make it a new combo plz Fixed

Hard
00:14:346 (2) - remove God, no.
00:34:628 (2) - move 1/2 beat later Fixed
00:35:262 (4) - move 1/4 beat later Fixed
00:37:163 (6) - move 1/4 beat earlier Fixed
00:53:008 (9) - 1/4 later Fixed
consider incrase hp drain and overall diff, this is supose to be Hard Fixed

Normal
notes ins 1/4 beat are lil hard to read, can you use slid to get it better, like for example:
00:14:135 (1,2,3,4,5) - you can use a slider from: 00:14:135 (1) to 00:14:452, then repeat 3 times
just to make it more easier to read, since this is normal, try to apply some of this in the rest of the map. Sorry, TT_TT this would be too easy.
00:21:952 - unsilence timing section ( suggestion ) Nah..
00:37:797 (1) - too close to prev note Fixed
00:52:797 (4) - i like how this slider follow the rhythm... try some like this one
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Lizbeth wrote:

General
-why Shinde Style have different source than the other? I told Leeg before he should change them all to uniform and pick the tags he wants so. =s He said it's taken care of now though.
-Source should be capitalized.
-Also, why there is differents tags?
-Remove "opening" from tags in AdvanceBoy's Insane
-Keep Black Lagoon as Source, and red fraction in tags.

Shinde Style
00:16:459 (4) - add a repeat Okay I guess, I think it was fine previously though.
00:17:304 - add note There's no beat here.
00:34:205 - add note Nah, I want it starting on the lyrics not the music's beat.
00:38:642 - add note That doesn't fit imo.
00:39:064 (5) - remove note Done.
00:53:431 (1) - too close to prev circle It's a new combo. It's supposed to be an anti-jump and rest. She holds the note too. ._.
00:53:431 (1,2,3) - this slider doesnt fit here, how about this: a note at:00:53:431, then a slider from here: 00:53:642 to 00:54:064, and a note at 00:54:487. I think you're following the music too closely. It's true that fits the beat more, but the whole point of the kiai section was to be as constant as possible while using 1/4th notes only in note stacks. Deviating.
00:55:543 (6) - remove note ^
00:56:071 - add note ^
00:58:078 (2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - streams doesnt fit imo Fits to me. Kiai is coming to an end and it's going into the next chorus.
01:08:853 (4) - finish this slid at 01:09:276 Extended, but only 1/4 to match 01:10:015 (2) -
01:12:550 (3) - remove That.. Doesn't really make any sense to me and sounds and plays odd.
01:12:867 - add note here ^
01:13:078 (4) - move the start of the spinner 1/2 beat later, and add note here ^
Pew.

Download: MELL - Red Fraction (TV Size) (Leeg) [Shinde Style].osu
Gens
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Well, well, this has been in pending for a long time now... let's take a look.

[General]
  1. You might need an easier difficulty, [Normal] is a bit too hard for newbie players.
  2. Remove "Black Lagoon" from the tags since they're already in the source field.
  3. It is recommendable that you set the Kiai time in the same way for all difficulties.
[Normal]

00:42:867 (6,1) - I'd consider this as a jump, and jumps on a [Normal] is like, no thanks.

[AdvanceBoy's Insane]
  1. Feels messy, but it should be okay for ranking... Not many people like small circles. :o
[Shinde Style]
  1. Consider using the same combo colors as the other difficulties, just to be consistent (or the other difficulties use these, etc).
  2. IMO the soft sampleset change feels weird.
~ ~ ~

I guess that's it. Everything else is good, though it doesn't feel very polished. It is your first map, so I guess it's understandable.
My biggest concern right now is the need for an easier difficulty...
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Leeg

Gens wrote:

Well, well, this has been in pending for a long time now... let's take a look.

[General]
  1. You might need an easier difficulty, [Normal] is a bit too hard for newbie players.
  2. Remove "Black Lagoon" from the tags since they're already in the source field.
  3. It is recommendable that you set the Kiai time in the same way for all difficulties.
I don't have to use kiai so I'm not going to put it.

[Normal]

00:42:867 (6,1) - I'd consider this as a jump, and jumps on a [Normal] is like, no thanks.It isn't a jump, (1) is placed where distance snap says.

[AdvanceBoy's Insane]
  1. Feels messy, but it should be okay for ranking... Not many people like small circles. :o
[Shinde Style]
  1. Consider using the same combo colors as the other difficulties, just to be consistent (or the other difficulties use these, etc).
  2. IMO the soft sampleset change feels weird.
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I guess that's it. Everything else is good, though it doesn't feel very polished. It is your first map, so I guess it's understandable.
My biggest concern right now is the need for an easier difficulty...
Then I changed the source and updated D:
Gens
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Gens

Leeg wrote:

00:42:867 (6,1) - I'd consider this as a jump, and jumps on a [Normal] is like, no thanks.It isn't a jump, (1) is placed where distance snap says.
Not for me, using Distance Snap moves (1) near (6), like it should be. Right now, Distance snap is set at 1.0x.
You'll also need to remove "red fraction" from the tags, seems I didn't notice it the first time... sorry about that.

And, I'd like to see a comment about combo colors first. Kiai Time is understandable if you don't like it, but I personally like Shinde's combo colors best, so you should at least consider them.
Also a comment about the easier difficulty. It isn't really that bad, but another difficulty would make the whole map set much better, and much more safe to bubble.
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Shinde

Gens wrote:

You'll also need to remove "red fraction" from the tags, seems I didn't notice it the first time... sorry about that.

And, I'd like to see a comment about combo colors first. Kiai Time is understandable if you don't like it, but I personally like Shinde's combo colors best, so you should at least consider them.
Also a comment about the easier difficulty. It isn't really that bad, but another difficulty would make the whole map set much better, and much more safe to bubble.
Naw, I like my colours and Kiai and it was planned like that.

tl;dr version
SPOILER
I don't really plan on changing my combo colours, as I like them and intentionally used different ones that I thought fit when I mapped this. I just mapped it as I wanted with no plan on submitting it or regard/reference to the other three difficulties, then later decided I'd give it to Leeg. I liked the soft sample set and Kiai as well and plan on keeping it. It's up to Leeg if he wants to change his Kiai or combo colours, though if the nonconformity is that much of a bother, I don't have a problem with dropping my difficulty.

I just dunno why matching Kiai and combo colours would be that important among guest difficulties in relation to the mapper's.

I'm also a bit blah about the whole thing, as ztrot's made a mapset that I'm going to assume is good since it was ranked, and lack of motion here so. I'd feel bad dropping out though, especially for Leeg as I see him asking in #mod here and there often enough the past so many months, but with 9 BAT stars and + this high and no rank, I don't think it's quality stands up well enough, and am thinking letting it die might be best at this point.

5 difficulties might be a bit much. I think an Easy would've been good, but not at this point. I think the Normal should suffice.
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Gens
Well, I said it more as a recommendation; I am fine if the mapper doesn't want to change them.

I also thought about too much difficulties, but hey, that wouldn't hurt anyone, would it? ;x
Normal should be fine for rankage though (as the easier difficulty).

With that issue cleared up, I will proto-bubble this. There should be no problem with ranking two beatmaps of the same song. ;)
Ephemeral
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Ephemeral
Upgrading proto-bubble.
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Upgrade combo!
Beuchi
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Finally! \o/

Congrats Leeg :P
Shinde
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Well I didn't expect to wake up to this.

Congratulations Leeg, looks like your effort finally paid off.
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This map has been deleted on the request of its creator. It is no longer available.
Nerv_Mario
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Felicidades ^o^
por fin rankearon tu primer map :P
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