22:48 Irreversible: Hello :)
22:48 Broccoly: hi~
22:49 Irreversible: About your map, it got unranked 
22:49 Broccoly: o.o why?
22:50 Irreversible: Can you first of all read .. this
22:50 Irreversible: https://osu.ppy.sh/forum/t/141274/start=60
22:50 Irreversible: I'm ready to take a look at it and i hope we can find a solution
22:50 Broccoly: sigh....
22:51 Irreversible: :/
22:51 Irreversible: the map ideas are good tho, in my opinion
22:51 Broccoly: another unrank..
22:51 Irreversible: don't be sad please.
22:51 Broccoly: thanks
22:51 Irreversible: we just want to help you, to get even better maps
22:51 Broccoly: so if we fix this, can we rerank it today?
22:52 Irreversible: Probably o.o
22:54 Irreversible: alright first we need to fix the timing
22:54 Broccoly: okay
22:54 Irreversible: Nice songchoice you have there btw ~
22:55 Broccoly: yeah i love raujika ~
22:58 Irreversible: k the timing: the first offset is 
22:58 Irreversible: 3482
22:58 Irreversible: 3483 *
22:59 Irreversible: for the second one, it's 21539
23:01 Irreversible: Please make sure everything is snapped correctly
23:02 Broccoly: ok working on it
23:02 Irreversible: tell me when you're done
23:02 Broccoly: alright
23:14 Broccoly: ok timing fixed,
23:14 Broccoly: i'll be back online in a few minutes
23:15 Irreversible: alright
23:25 Broccoly: ok back
23:25 Irreversible: wb~ 
23:25 Broccoly: library closed.. had to move place
23:27 Irreversible: o.o
23:27 Irreversible: I see
23:29 Irreversible: did you update?
23:29 Broccoly: yup
23:30 Irreversible: k then let's go
23:30 Broccoly: kk
23:31 Irreversible: 00:05:381 (5) -  The spacing from 4 and 5 seems rather high
23:32 Irreversible: do you have a specific reason for that or would it be okay to lower it a bit?
23:33 Broccoly: it's totally playable, and it doesn't even feel like a jump..
23:33 Broccoly: and i wanted to express that high one note
23:33 Broccoly: ding
23:34 Irreversible: ah
23:34 Irreversible: i wanted to keep that for sure
23:34 Irreversible: 00:05:381 (5) -  but 184 64 just looks a bit closer, and might let other people think the same
23:34 Irreversible: just my opinoin tho, leave it if you want.
23:35 Broccoly: ok moved to 167 63
23:35 Broccoly: a bit closer 
23:35 Irreversible: alright, thanks
23:35 Broccoly: npnp
23:35 Irreversible: http://puu.sh/56XCP.jpg  00:06:520 (2,3,4) -  about those, nazi, 
23:36 Irreversible: move 4 a bit to the right, so you have the same distance where i drew it, looks a bit more proper made
23:36 Broccoly: ok
23:36 Irreversible: 00:13:736 (3) - To follow the natural flow i suggest moving this to the right side of the slider end of  00:13:356 (2) - 
23:37 Irreversible: http://puu.sh/56XJ5.jpg
23:38 Broccoly: ah i think that doesn't matter because of the slider leniency
23:38 Broccoly: and also the same thing.. expressing that high note
23:38 Irreversible: http://puu.sh/56XO0.jpg what about that then?
23:39 Broccoly: ok
23:39 Irreversible: Going to be a little nazi and try to improve the overall, it's those little things which makes a map even better.
23:39 Irreversible: 00:14:115 (4,5) - between those, same reason as before: http://puu.sh/56XRs.jpg like the picture where i've drawn the distance between them
23:40 Irreversible: 00:16:014 (1,2) - This is one of the 3/4 which doesn't fit at all, please remove it and map 1/2, maybe even just place a circle 00:16:014 (3) -  here.
23:42 Irreversible: 00:19:432 (1,2,3) - move this one a bit to the left (whole combo) to avoid being so close to the otherone, and to keep some consistency through the overall, it also gives the other piano 'noises' a good emphasis
23:43 Irreversible: 00:22:224 (1) - I think a stack with the slider start of 00:22:566 -  would fit perfectly according to the music. personal opinion tho
23:43 Irreversible: Tell me when i'm too fast or should stop
23:43 Broccoly: ok
23:44 Irreversible: so I can go on?
23:44 Broccoly: yup
23:44 Broccoly: all fixed so far
23:44 Irreversible: ah, and feel free to tell me if you disagree, don't wanna ignore your mapstyle
23:44 Broccoly: yeah 
23:45 Broccoly: but can you first give me the important things to change before the nazi?
23:45 Irreversible: yeah i try going to that now
23:45 Broccoly: ok
23:46 Irreversible: 00:25:136 (2) - spacing, 00:24:622 (1,2,3) -  between those, it should be the same
23:46 Irreversible: that was one of the reasons why it was unranked, it just jumps around and is not consistent at all, so that's going to be the main thing
23:47 Irreversible: http://puu.sh/56YhF.jpg 00:25:307 (3,1,2) -  Same thing here. Screen will show you what I mean.
23:48 Irreversible: 00:29:418 (4) - flows bad. rotate by like 30°, selection centre
23:48 Broccoly: one sec
23:48 Irreversible: fine
23:49 Broccoly: 00:24:622 (1,2,3) - what's wrong with this?
23:49 Broccoly: the jumps play fine..
23:49 Irreversible: the spacing
23:49 Irreversible: yeah but you have this overall your map, and it looks unconsistent.
23:49 Broccoly: it's not that serious to the point where it's unrankable
23:49 Broccoly: alright
23:50 Irreversible: well nvm then.
23:50 Irreversible: If you don't wanna change those, 
23:50 Irreversible: 00:41:066 (2) - According to your new combo patterns this would need a NC.
23:51 Broccoly: btw 30' rotate fixed
23:51 Irreversible: 01:24:906 (1,2) - Same here.
23:51 Broccoly: ah both were intentional because the section itself is slowdown
23:51 Broccoly: not only the slider
23:53 Irreversible: 02:25:896 (1,2,3) - this one here plays very weird. Imagine, you're in a rush, and you make 1/4 spam.
23:53 Irreversible: It would be nice if you stack those, or space them properly.
23:54 Broccoly: fixed
23:54 Irreversible: 00:57:167 (1,1) - Any reason for that overlap?
23:54 Irreversible: I actually prefer this pattern:
23:55 Irreversible: http://puu.sh/56YLm.jpg since you've most of the time used that.
23:55 Broccoly: yeah kawayi rika suggested that too
23:55 Broccoly: hmm but i wanted to keep it since i like it
23:55 Broccoly: dunno.. on hold for now
23:56 Irreversible: 01:16:694 (1,1) - This one looks really different as well, the flow is interrupted here. If you wanna make something special, you should keep it consistent.
23:58 Broccoly: fixing...
00:00 Broccoly: fixed it to be more intuitive
00:00 Irreversible: 01:25:259 (2) - Is that clap there on purpose?
00:00 Broccoly: yeah
00:01 Irreversible: 01:13:954 (1) - consistency again, wouldn't space 01:13:611 (1,1) -  those one so far.
00:01 Irreversible:  01:16:694 (1,1) - Same here, that just looks so totally different, And the flow breaker doesn't make sense according to how you've mapped before.
00:02 Irreversible: 01:22:176 (1) - if you changed the thing before, do the same here please.
00:02 Broccoly: overlaps i'll think about it more
00:02 Broccoly: 01:13:954 (1) - fixed
00:02 Irreversible: 01:32:453 (1) - and i would space that abit further, to keep consistency again.
00:03 Broccoly: done
00:09 Irreversible: 02:17:674 (1) - 5.81 spacing.
00:09 Irreversible: wtf.
00:09 Irreversible: Ctrl + G?
00:09 Broccoly: lol
00:09 Broccoly: it's the start of the climax
00:09 Irreversible: That's the main problem
00:09 Irreversible: the spacing of the 3/4
00:11 Broccoly: why is the reason that i shouldn't use 5.81 spacing
00:11 Irreversible: 02:32:405 (1,1) - Same here, 3.12 for the 1/4 and 2.2 for the 1/2
00:12 Irreversible: 5.81 is really high, and i said it already, to keep at least a bit consistency. 
00:12 Irreversible: But it's up to you
00:12 Irreversible: It's your map, you can decide
00:12 Irreversible: all of those things had been suggestions
00:12 Broccoly: ah thanks for respecting 
00:13 Broccoly: yeah i don't that's unplayable
00:13 Broccoly: lemme hear from other people too
00:13 Irreversible: Yeah, but as said, that was the 'why-the-unrank-' thing
00:13 Irreversible: I find the idea nice,
00:13 Broccoly: ok
00:13 Irreversible: 02:44:053 (3) -  This one bothers me a bit
00:13 Irreversible: it's stacked and flows a bit bad
00:14 Irreversible: 02:44:053 (3,1) - maybe something like this? it has a special flow as well.
00:14 Irreversible: (and shouldn't this one be slowed down anyway?)
00:15 Irreversible: after this, could you update? I wanna play it through again, and that's it basically
00:15 Broccoly: something like what..?
00:15 Broccoly: alright
00:15 Irreversible: huh
00:15 Irreversible: 02:44:053 (3,1) - 
00:15 Irreversible: -.- ^^
00:15 Irreversible: http://puu.sh/5701d.jpg
00:15 Irreversible: Sorry again, didn't want to offend your map at all
00:15 Broccoly: ah ok
00:15 Broccoly: no no it's fine
00:16 Irreversible: and about the nazi
00:16 Irreversible: all i can do is offering it to you, but you can deny. so if you don't want it's fine
00:16 Irreversible: tell me when you've updated
00:17 Broccoly: alright one sec
00:19 Irreversible: maybe 1 thing
00:19 Irreversible: 02:39:086 (4) -  move to 492 160
00:19 Irreversible: haha xD
00:19 Broccoly: yea
00:19 Irreversible: better flow
00:19 Irreversible: As long as the mapper gives me reason, and I see that he wants to change something, it's fine.
00:19 Broccoly: i'll move it a bit down but not exactly
00:20 Broccoly: cool
00:25 Broccoly: updated
00:28 Irreversible: kk
00:28 Irreversible: i found some more, do you mind?
00:29 Irreversible: you should wait for UWS anyway, so why not using the time :3
00:30 Broccoly: no no go ahead
00:30 Broccoly: was playing too 
00:30 Irreversible: 00:37:297 (3) - i wouldn't use the 1/4 here, it's not the same as before
00:30 Irreversible: you should just use it at places like -all the other places-
00:31 Irreversible: 00:44:149 (1) - move a bit closer to 00:43:806 (1) - , (same reason as above, you've fixed them, so here should be good too)
00:31 Broccoly: hmm i'd really like to keep that...
00:31 Irreversible: and about 00:37:294 (3) - i
00:31 Irreversible: i tried to play it
00:31 Irreversible: and it feels much better.
00:31 Broccoly: cool
00:32 Irreversible: ?
00:32 Irreversible: if you make it to 1/2 haha
00:32 Broccoly: oh lol
00:32 Irreversible: 00:45:862 (3) - move a bit up? // nazi :P
00:32 Broccoly: 00:44:149 (1) - this fixed
00:32 Irreversible: alright
00:32 Broccoly: moved up
00:32 Broccoly: but 00:37:297 (3) - this i really want to keep it..
00:33 Irreversible: alright. http://puu.sh/5712I.jpg ? the the spacing is more clearer.
00:34 Irreversible: then it's actually cool.
00:35 Irreversible: http://puu.sh/57187.jpg 00:47:746 (3,4,5,1) -  think about something like this once, it's really hidden, and i think some people could be slightly frustated. whats your opinion?
00:35 Irreversible: this suggestion is to keep the flow overall, to let the people play this really smooth
00:35 Broccoly: for 00:37:297 (3) - this i ctrl+g ed slider 4
00:36 Broccoly: and adjusted the spacing
00:36 Irreversible: god :D
00:36 Irreversible: good*
00:36 Irreversible: So you wanna keep the overlap?
00:36 Irreversible: 00:57:510 (1) -  ? (it's ok if you want)
00:37 Broccoly: if i fixed it to blanket, then the distance will be further..
00:37 Broccoly: is that ok?
00:37 Irreversible: it's not because of the distance
00:37 Irreversible: it's because it's hidden
00:37 Irreversible: but if that's fixed, why not
00:38 Irreversible: 01:25:259 (2) - this clap bothers me really >< maybe make it a bit more quiet? then it's less distracting imo
00:38 Broccoly: ok so blanket
00:39 Broccoly: done
00:39 Irreversible: 02:10:823 (2) - this is really hidden too. 02:10:823 (2) -  something like this provides cool flow
00:39 Broccoly: quieter
00:39 Broccoly: img plz?
00:40 Irreversible: omg 
00:40 Irreversible: http://puu.sh/571nd.jpg
00:40 Broccoly: ty
00:40 Irreversible: sorry i ctrl + v too fast
00:40 Broccoly: haha
00:40 Irreversible: 02:21:100 (2) - ctrl + g for awesome up and down flow?
00:40 Broccoly: one sec
00:40 Broccoly: 02:10:823 (2) - for this i think i should add slowdown
00:41 Broccoly: for consistency
00:41 Irreversible: i disagree
00:42 Irreversible: ah
00:42 Irreversible: not for 2
00:42 Irreversible: 02:11:165 (3) -  for this
00:42 Broccoly: yeah that
00:43 Irreversible: alright, 'll watch out for more issues
00:43 Broccoly: so i add slowdown?
00:43 Irreversible: if you want
00:43 Broccoly: kk
00:44 Broccoly: hmm
00:45 Broccoly: 01:29:713 (1,1,2) - but here the music is same
00:45 Broccoly: but slowdown's the 1st slider
00:45 Irreversible: o.o
00:45 Irreversible: did i suggest smth there?
00:45 Irreversible: btw 01:37:935 (1) -  move to 208 172
00:46 Broccoly: no i mean
00:46 Broccoly: 02:11:165 (3) - this and 01:29:713 (1,1,2) - this part
00:46 Broccoly: the music are same 
00:46 Irreversible: o.o
00:47 Irreversible: you can leave it'
00:47 Broccoly: almost
00:47 Broccoly: ok i'll see what i can do
00:47 Irreversible: 02:07:054 (1) - 
00:47 Irreversible: i'd remove this slowdown.
00:47 Irreversible: it's not the same as before
00:47 Irreversible: and it makes the part feel weird, with the jumps afterwards, so this one please remove
00:48 Irreversible: 02:18:702 (1,2,3,1) - this flows bad, is hidden, and the jump is TOO high imo. http://puu.sh/571RY.jpg Here, i have a suggestion
00:49 Irreversible: tell me when you're finished with that, update again then please
00:49 Broccoly: ok
00:53 Irreversible: did you?
00:54 Broccoly: still fixing.. sorry
00:54 Irreversible: ah
00:54 Irreversible: wait i have other suggestions then haha 01:29:713 (1) -  this one
00:54 Irreversible: you should really remove it, as you said, the music is the same.
00:54 Irreversible: 01:37:935 (1) -  and here.
00:54 Broccoly: no that i didn't say it right
00:54 Broccoly: the music isn't actually the same..
00:55 Irreversible: eh
00:55 Irreversible: ops
00:55 Irreversible: yeah isn't
00:55 Broccoly: and those i really really really want to keep...
00:55 Irreversible: why ?
00:55 Broccoly: i just like the pattern..
00:55 Broccoly: and how it plays..
00:55 Irreversible: 02:21:100 (2) - CTRL + G please.
00:55 Broccoly: oh that i wanted to give a descending feeling
00:55 Irreversible: 02:27:609 (3) -  and this one here, you have to slowdown this one i guess
00:55 Broccoly: ctrl + g is too cliche
00:56 Irreversible: you can't give a descending feeling if you go 02:21:443 (3) -  to the top again
00:56 Broccoly: no but three downward cursor movement
00:56 Broccoly: that's what i mean
00:56 Irreversible: 02:32:748 (1) -  please move closer to the slowdown, the jump doesn't feel good here (248 352)
00:57 Broccoly: to the blue slider?
00:57 Irreversible: http://puu.sh/572kM.jpg
00:57 Broccoly: oh sorry my color is all messed up right now
00:58 Irreversible: dw dw
00:59 Irreversible: 01:17:037 (1) -   http://puu.sh/572sm.jpg slight curve? looks a bit smoother
01:01 Broccoly: ok 
01:01 Broccoly: whoo too much thing to fix.
01:04 Irreversible: o.o
01:04 Irreversible: 02:29:322 (2) -  Last sugegstion for now: ctrl + g: this jump is really weird.
01:05 Broccoly: oh sorry didn't see your pm
01:06 Broccoly: that one i'd like to keep
01:06 Irreversible: For this one
01:06 Irreversible: I have to say it's really bad.
01:06 Irreversible: flow improves 100%
01:07 Irreversible: When you're done, update, and UWS finished his mod
01:08 Irreversible: But yeah, the last thing rather should be changed.
01:08 Broccoly: ok i'll think about it
01:09 Broccoly: i mean after looking uws's mod first
01:09 Irreversible: alright
01:09 Irreversible: update and go! :D