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Kanye West
2,222 posts
Joined July 2011
Kanye West
It was a good idea but they executed it poorly, gave away 4 kills early, fell behind in farm, dragons and gold, and had a weaker lategame anyway so no possible way to come back.

Kill lanes are actually quite good against adc/support lanes, but are countered by Cait (long range, escape) and Janna (disengage). They also get shut down by ganks and counterganks, which is why they don't see much play in competitive play because coordinated teams know how to deal with it.
Vulf
17 posts
Joined November 2009
Vulf

Igenatius wrote:

Ah my time to shine has begun!

Played a LeBlanc against Zed and completely wrecked that piece of shit shadow. So satisfying to land mimic'd Q after ult gets to level 2.
Also the amount of jumps is pretty fantastic.

I still feel that the first level of ult is a lackluster.
The new Leblanc is trash now. The changes were a straight up nerf to that champion for the most part. They severely nerfed her early game to slightly buffed her late game (barely a buff).

The whole point of leblanc was her early game and they took that away so she is just awful now.
Justykanna
1,090 posts
Joined April 2011
Justykanna

Vulf wrote:

The new Leblanc is trash now. The changes were a straight up nerf to that champion for the most part. They severely nerfed her early game to slightly buffed her late game (barely a buff).

The whole point of leblanc was her early game and they took that away so she is just awful now.
I've played a lot of Leblancs that could pretty much one-shot champions... I've never faced any champion that could kill 'that' quickly so the nerf was probably in place for a reason...
Vulf
17 posts
Joined November 2009
Vulf

Justykanna wrote:

Vulf wrote:

The new Leblanc is trash now. The changes were a straight up nerf to that champion for the most part. They severely nerfed her early game to slightly buffed her late game (barely a buff).

The whole point of leblanc was her early game and they took that away so she is just awful now.
I've played a lot of Leblancs that could pretty much one-shot champions... I've never faced any champion that could kill 'that' quickly so the nerf was probably in place for a reason...
That is the whole point of leblanc (burst mages in general). After she uses her entire combo she is completely useless for a few seconds.

Edit: Leblanc had one of THE lowest win rates and she was rarely picked. It makes literally no sense to nerf her. Zed, Kha, Rengar (if ahead) can burst harder than she can mid-late game. She just did it early game extremely well. She falls off late because she is single target. They labeled this as a buff when it definitely isn't a buff. That's the problem.
Kanye West
2,222 posts
Joined July 2011
Kanye West
The only part of it that I would consider a "buff" was the zero mana cost of the ult at all ranks. Mimic not scaling based on mimic'd ability level was just a complete nerf.
pielak213
463 posts
Joined April 2010
pielak213
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Nofool
Elite Mapper
1,108 posts
Joined February 2011
Nofool
^this ratio win/lose o_o wp
SiFly_old
0 posts
Joined April 2013
SiFly_old
Support annie was played last week in OGN, and used before in brand/annie kill lanes. It didn't seem to work well in the OGN game, though they still won, but not due great annie plays/stuns.

And the 56% winrate is nice, but not completely amazing, and should be doable with her/his plat 1 skills ;) (i got 59% in normals as gold V, so i guess she/he stills wins games very easily)
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BrokenArrow
2,237 posts
Joined June 2010
BrokenArrow
C9 vs. VUL was the most exciting match I've seen this year. Holy shit that was amazing.
Azer
World Cup Organiser
1,108 posts
Joined December 2012
Azer



PROTECT THE TEEMO
Devalix_old
127 posts
Joined December 2012
Devalix_old
I've been duo q'ing with a friend and so far we're on a win streak of 11 games.

Also one more win and I'm promoted to silver I :D
Justykanna
1,090 posts
Joined April 2011
Justykanna

Devalix wrote:

I've been duo q'ing with a friend and so far we're on a win streak of 11 games.

Also one more win and I'm promoted to silver I
Wow, that's quite the streak. =O




I love how Singed was calling his team out when he went 1/12/0...
KvdV96
4 posts
Joined February 2013
KvdV96
I recently went from Gold 3 to Gold 1. I skipped a division. :) I hope I can get to platinum. My name is KvdV96 and I play on euw for people that want to add me. I play really often with friends though.
tyrael6192
706 posts
Joined October 2010
tyrael6192

Justykanna wrote:

Devalix wrote:

I've been duo q'ing with a friend and so far we're on a win streak of 11 games.

Also one more win and I'm promoted to silver I
Wow, that's quite the streak. =O




I love how Singed was calling his team out when he went 1/12/0...
proxy singed
Blaziken
611 posts
Joined June 2011
Blaziken


I love it when a champion I have no intention of buying goes free....
Justykanna
1,090 posts
Joined April 2011
Justykanna

tyrael6192 wrote:

proxy singed
What's proxy Singed? Aside from dying several times. o_o
Devalix_old
127 posts
Joined December 2012
Devalix_old
It's when your whole team goes on singed all game so the rest of the team gets objectives. You usually just farm behind towers all game (yes on level 1 too).
BrokenArrow
2,237 posts
Joined June 2010
BrokenArrow
Distracting the enemy, getting tons of cs and keeping your lanes pushed denying xp and gold for the enemy team.
Used to be more effective pre 3.9.
tyrael6192
706 posts
Joined October 2010
tyrael6192
basically you farm past the enemy turrets. you completely ignore the enemy top laner and run past the turret and farm in the enemy base by killing all the creeps that spawn for the 3 lanes. if u die then ok, they can keep killing you and you become worth nothing (although the recent death streak gold change is supposed to address this a bit i guess) and so u end up with a terrible score but stupid amounts of farm so it doesn't matter because you still have tons of gold

and yeah ninja'd twice but this helps team in certain ways
Justykanna
1,090 posts
Joined April 2011
Justykanna

tyrael6192 wrote:

basically you farm past the enemy turrets. you completely ignore the enemy top laner and run past the turret and farm in the enemy base by killing all the creeps that spawn for the 3 lanes. if u die then ok, they can keep killing you and you become worth nothing (although the recent death streak gold change is supposed to address this a bit i guess) and so u end up with a terrible score but stupid amounts of farm so it doesn't matter because you still have tons of gold

and yeah ninja'd twice but this helps team in certain ways
He'd farm one wave, then die... like... every time. They never got dragon and only downed two of our turrets all game. Then his team would fight us 5v4 and lose because they're down someone while he's farming. Feels like a pointless way to go imo. Especially because he's worth gold at the beginning and it gave my team free kills / assists.

A little... Making the minimum 35 gold more isn't much more lol.
Devalix_old
127 posts
Joined December 2012
Devalix_old
Watch this guy and see what proxy singed can do http://www.twitch.tv/druiddroid
BrokenArrow
2,237 posts
Joined June 2010
BrokenArrow

Justykanna wrote:

tyrael6192 wrote:

basically you farm past the enemy turrets. you completely ignore the enemy top laner and run past the turret and farm in the enemy base by killing all the creeps that spawn for the 3 lanes. if u die then ok, they can keep killing you and you become worth nothing (although the recent death streak gold change is supposed to address this a bit i guess) and so u end up with a terrible score but stupid amounts of farm so it doesn't matter because you still have tons of gold

and yeah ninja'd twice but this helps team in certain ways
He'd farm one wave, then die... like... every time. They never got dragon and only downed two of our turrets all game. Then his team would fight us 5v4 and lose because they're down someone while he's farming. Feels like a pointless way to go imo. Especially because he's worth gold at the beginning and it gave my team free kills / assists.

A little... Making the minimum 35 gold more isn't much more lol.
Then he was just doing bad and/or the team didn't make use of their advantage at all.
Note that this can be countered easily and most likely doesn't work on high elo as people know how to deal with proxy singed.
maal
maal
so uh annie got patched

SPOILER
Azer
World Cup Organiser
1,108 posts
Joined December 2012
Azer

maal wrote:

so uh annie got patched

SPOILER
I'm okay with this.
Tenshi
366 posts
Joined March 2011
Tenshi

maal wrote:

so uh annie got patched

SPOILER
Kanye West
2,222 posts
Joined July 2011
Kanye West
proxy singed is so easy to counter

just go solo top vayne, rush sword of the occult and lifesteal and farm him for stacks

also you can tank the creep waves to stop them from hitting your tower and lifesteal all your health back

plus the death streak gold count got nerfed anyways
Azer
World Cup Organiser
1,108 posts
Joined December 2012
Azer

Kanye West wrote:

proxy singed is so easy to counter

just go solo top vayne, rush sword of the occult and lifesteal and farm him for stacks

also you can tank the creep waves to stop them from hitting your tower and lifesteal all your health back

plus the death streak gold count got nerfed anyways
and if hes not proxy then good luck with your poor frontline late game lol
Synchrostar
867 posts
Joined July 2010
Synchrostar


ad tf with thresh support is fun
Azer
World Cup Organiser
1,108 posts
Joined December 2012
Azer
this fucking game
Justykanna
1,090 posts
Joined April 2011
Justykanna
Had a game today where a Trundle called bottom.
The ADC asked him to stop poking the minions about five minutes in and he said "Dude, I'm not a support". He was clearly fighting Varus for the minion kills.
... I was confused. He did a good job helping Varus in trades / engages but... people need to think a little bit.
Not like I cared after all was finished, we won the game.
Icyteru
535 posts
Joined August 2011
Icyteru

Synchrostar wrote:



ad tf with thresh support is fun
Your build lacks DORRA DORRA GET HORRA
GeeNX
1,081 posts
Joined June 2012
GeeNX


OP
Noobrage_old
6 posts
Joined December 2012
Noobrage_old
GG Noobrage= EUW Gold 2
GG N00hrage= TR Plat 4

Maining an awesome Graves if someone is doing an awesome supp he can add me ^.^
ItsukiKun
2 posts
Joined March 2013
ItsukiKun
So I started smurfing on a different server (From PH to NA) and played my first normal...


You can see that it didn't go so well... :( :( :(
Also first time normal as kennen and dat kat...
Kanye West
2,222 posts
Joined July 2011
Kanye West
Yeah I tried smurfing on Oceania servers and got crushed in my first game too. It's so hard to play with 260 ping, idk how the Australians did it on the NA server.
maal
maal
tyrael haven't been online in 2 days, i am missing my baby :C:C:C:C
sCam
215 posts
Joined December 2011
sCam
for the third time, still oooking for ppl to play league with, still no one ever hit me up or wanna play league with me, I'm bout to give up asking.
tyrael6192
706 posts
Joined October 2010
tyrael6192

maal wrote:

tyrael haven't been online in 2 days, i am missing my baby :C:C:C:C
i broke my mouse an d i ordered a new one and it's coming tomorrow

i'm sorry orz
maal
maal

tyrael6192 wrote:

maal wrote:

tyrael haven't been online in 2 days, i am missing my baby :C:C:C:C
i broke my mouse an d i ordered a new one and it's coming tomorrow

i'm sorry orz
YAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY
tyrael6192
706 posts
Joined October 2010
tyrael6192

maal wrote:

tyrael6192 wrote:

i broke my mouse an d i ordered a new one and it's coming tomorrow

i'm sorry orz
YAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY
maal
maal
do it fgt

you better be online tomorrow
Justykanna
1,090 posts
Joined April 2011
Justykanna

That was an impressively bad game all around.
Renekton wasn't bad, but my friend and I got stuck in our worst lane, Ezreal started 4/0 and followed that up with 10+ deaths, and our Amumu... ... was special.
20:00 minute mark and the surrender doesn't go through.
I sigh.
Edit: Why do people sell their items at the end of the game? I don't get what it accomplishes.
tyrael6192
706 posts
Joined October 2010
tyrael6192
it makes people think they were 'trolling' and justifies their bad score somehow

when in reality actually they were playing 100% seriously most of the time and just suck
ItsukiKun
2 posts
Joined March 2013
ItsukiKun

Justykanna wrote:

Why do people sell their items at the end of the game? I don't get what it accomplishes.
Nothing. People just do it 'cause they're bored... kinda like jumping into the enemy base right before the nexus dies.

tyrael6192 wrote:

it makes people think they were 'trolling' and justifies their bad score somehow

when in reality actually they were playing 100% seriously most of the time and just suck
Ikr? One of the reasons that made me smurf on another server... PH has lots of ppl like that. >:(
maal
maal

Justykanna wrote:


That was an impressively bad game all around.
Renekton wasn't bad, but my friend and I got stuck in our worst lane, Ezreal started 4/0 and followed that up with 10+ deaths, and our Amumu... ... was special.
20:00 minute mark and the surrender doesn't go through.
I sigh.
Edit: Why do people sell their items at the end of the game? I don't get what it accomplishes.
makes them feel better

reverse psychology
Backfire
3,207 posts
Joined February 2010
Backfire

*cries*
Kanye West
2,222 posts
Joined July 2011
Kanye West

tyrael6192 wrote:

it makes people think they were 'trolling' and justifies their bad score somehow

when in reality actually they were playing 100% seriously most of the time and just suck
nah, sometimes i do it for fun, no matter if we win or lose, like i sell all my items and buy only trinity forces like phreak does on stream
Noobrage_old
6 posts
Joined December 2012
Noobrage_old


Typical enemys on ranked.
Was ofc a easy win ^__^
ItsukiKun
2 posts
Joined March 2013
ItsukiKun

Backfire wrote:


*cries*
That's nothing, srsly. I've been through worse...
rengar 33/11
darius 34/12 and 39/17
fiora 27/19 (I think?)
all defeat... :cry:
Vulf
17 posts
Joined November 2009
Vulf

Backfire wrote:


*cries*
If you think K/D/A means a lot in this game you are going to have a bad time.
maal
maal

Noobrage wrote:



Typical enemys on ranked.
Was ofc a easy win ^__^
the bragging is strong in this one




and apparently it's possible to be promoted from challenger
Azer
World Cup Organiser
1,108 posts
Joined December 2012
Azer
This fucking thread
Justykanna
1,090 posts
Joined April 2011
Justykanna

tyrael6192 wrote:

it makes people think they were 'trolling' and justifies their bad score somehow

when in reality actually they were playing 100% seriously most of the time and just suck
Except Renekton was the only one on our team who played decently.

maal wrote:

makes them feel better

reverse psychology
How so?
Backfire
3,207 posts
Joined February 2010
Backfire

Vulf wrote:

Backfire wrote:


*cries*
If you think K/D/A means a lot in this game you are going to have a bad time.
It does because it was fucked because they have bad K/D/A. K/D/A does matter, it just matters what everyones is. We >should have fucking won<.
Justykanna
1,090 posts
Joined April 2011
Justykanna

Backfire wrote:

It does because it was fucked because they have bad K/D/A. K/D/A does matter, it just matters what everyones is. We >should have fucking won<.
Assuming you can base it on that, Kayle died once, Garen died three times and the ADC only died four times. That's not nearly enough to justify a win - especially because your ADC and APC were both low on gold and higher on deaths than the three I mentioned.

You have to consider when the people have their deaths too because that affects how the game goes (higher level deaths = longer dead time for example)... then there are aces, etc.
Vulf
17 posts
Joined November 2009
Vulf

Backfire wrote:

It does because it was fucked because they have bad K/D/A. K/D/A does matter, it just matters what everyones is. We >should have fucking won<.
If KDA actually meant something then every support player would be fucked. Proxy singed is a perfect example that KDA means nothing because you basically win by feeding to abuse certain mechanics of the game while at the same time putting an enormous amout of pressure on all lanes.

This isn't a single player game. Having good teamwork skills and knowledge of game mechanics influences the match outcome a lot more.
BrokenArrow
2,237 posts
Joined June 2010
BrokenArrow
Yo can someone explain to me the structure about this whole tournament thingy going on right now? I started watching competitive play in LoL just recently and I don't fully get it yet and I'm apparently too lazy to google it.
Like how is it decided who's gonna be in the world cup's finals, when will it start, what is this whole lcs spring/summer split and allstars all about, etc.

Help for a noob would be appreciated. :|
Nofool
Elite Mapper
1,108 posts
Joined February 2011
Nofool
i don't realy understand how the current tournament is working too but there'll be tournaments like that in every region to determine the 14 best teams in the world. then it'll be the same witht the 14 teams i guess, they'll all play against each others and the two teams with the best w/d ratio will be in the final, or it'll just be a single tournament with qualifications.
so the current tournaments (lcs spring/summer) serve to find the 4 best teams in every region.
the allstars tournament was just a tournament with one team per region with the 5 best players from every region. the results of this tournament don't have any relation with the world championship.

i hope someone can explain better than me ,_,
Azer
World Cup Organiser
1,108 posts
Joined December 2012
Azer

Nofool wrote:

i hope someone can explain better than me ,_,
Here.

BrokenArrow wrote:

Yo can someone explain to me the structure about this whole tournament thingy going on right now? I started watching competitive play in LoL just recently and I don't fully get it yet and I'm apparently too lazy to google it.
Like how is it decided who's gonna be in the world cup's finals, when will it start, what is this whole lcs spring/summer split and allstars all about, etc.

Help for a noob would be appreciated. :|

To put it really simply and bluntly
Each region has their own 'LCS' thing with like 8 teams. It's like a season where they play for a few months and then have standings at the end.
The 3 best korean teams will go to worlds.
The 2 best North American, European and Chinese teams will go to worlds.
The best team for the Garena league will go to worlds.

The LCS had a summer/spring split to let more teams compete in relegations so that the starting roster for the summer split would not necessarily be the same as the spring split, and I think each region had this kind of thing but I'm not too sure.

Alltars was an event to let a region have one more team in the world finals. Korea won (I think) and they got a 3rd slot for another team to go.

I could explain it beter than that but I don't need to, a simple explanation should be good enough :)
Nofool
Elite Mapper
1,108 posts
Joined February 2011
Nofool

Azer wrote:

Alltars was an event to let a region have one more team in the world finals. Korea won (I think) and they got a 3rd slot for another team to go.
sorry didn't know
BrokenArrow
2,237 posts
Joined June 2010
BrokenArrow
Thanks Nofool and Azer for helping out, I think I got the most important stuff now. :3
DaDeceptive0ne
8 posts
Joined July 2013
DaDeceptive0ne
Is this "up to date"?

If so, I'm on EUW Server, "DaDeceptive0ne" (ye, thats a zero no big "oh"). Im lvl 30 for a long time and I keep reaching Platinum. Seems to be closer than I thought first.

I play everything but support. Actually playing mid > adc > jungle > top (> support). I played in a lot of teams and I always fit in another role, thats why I'm more the "alrounder". In my last team I played jungle as main. Xin and Nautilis, Hecarim and Malphite, Mumu and Shen. As they kept nerfing everything I just went over to Jarvan and Zac.
I rarely play support, but if I have to (like in rankeds), I will just fit into the team.

Cheerio, Deceptive~
BrokenArrow
2,237 posts
Joined June 2010
BrokenArrow
Yes this is up-to-date, as you can see this part of the forum is pretty active recently. We could play a match together as soon as I get my internet connection improved. In the meanwhile you might want to join our osu! ranked team, new members are always welcome. :3 (mid is my position, dare to get in my way)
SiFly_old
0 posts
Joined April 2013
SiFly_old
EU/NA actually have 3 spots in the s3 finals. According to recent news about those spots.

Korea has also 3 spots for winning allstar event.

China/Southeast asia both have 2 spots.
Azer
World Cup Organiser
1,108 posts
Joined December 2012
Azer


2fun
Blaziken
611 posts
Joined June 2011
Blaziken
Spirit Guard Udyr skin out.... As soon as I used my RP for Miss Fortune...
Hika
1,553 posts
Joined February 2010
Hika
You know, the skin is totally worth it but I don't have Udyr. They make the skin sound SOOO GOOOOOOOD.
Nofool
Elite Mapper
1,108 posts
Joined February 2011
Nofool

Hika wrote:

They make the skin sound SOOO GOOOOOOOD.
+ icon + banner
Kanye West
2,222 posts
Joined July 2011
Kanye West
the skin is mediocre

only reason i got it was the icons and banners
Hika
1,553 posts
Joined February 2010
Hika

Nofool wrote:

Hika wrote:

They make the skin sound SOOO GOOOOOOOD.
+ icon + banner
you got to be kidding me

minemineminemineminemine
Doge_old_1
Doge_old_1

Nofool wrote:

Hika wrote:

They make the skin sound SOOO GOOOOOOOD.
+ icon + banner
inc first time spirit udyr players who instalock and feed super hard

just like pulsefire
Vulf
17 posts
Joined November 2009
Vulf
That Udyr skin is nothing but a visual upgrade because the theme is the same. If Udyr was released today he would have that skin as his default.
Backfire
3,207 posts
Joined February 2010
Backfire


My team was 3/17 before I started to die.

I just...I can't.
DaDeceptive0ne
8 posts
Joined July 2013
DaDeceptive0ne

BrokenArrow wrote:

Yes this is up-to-date, as you can see this part of the forum is pretty active recently. We could play a match together as soon as I get my internet connection improved. In the meanwhile you might want to join our osu! ranked team, new members are always welcome. :3 (mid is my position, dare to get in my way)
Why not! I'm actually playing ranked games i need to rush on platin/diamond asap. Whatever. And as I said I can nearly fit every role (screw you support!)

Cheerz, Deceptive~
maal
maal
SPOILER

porooooooooooooooooo
Nofool
Elite Mapper
1,108 posts
Joined February 2011
Nofool

maal wrote:

SPOILER

porooooooooooooooooo
where is the draven one ,_,
maal
maal

Nofool wrote:

maal wrote:

SPOILER

porooooooooooooooooo
where is the draven one ,_,
SPOILER
DaDeceptive0ne
8 posts
Joined July 2013
DaDeceptive0ne
Awww... soooo xute! Am I blind or is vayne not here (ง'̀-'́)ง

Cheerz, Deceptive~
SiFly_old
0 posts
Joined April 2013
SiFly_old

DaDeceptive0ne wrote:

Awww... soooo xute! Am I blind or is vayne not here (ง'̀-'́)ง

Cheerz, Deceptive~
22 poros. 130 champions.

You only missed vayne?
DaDeceptive0ne
8 posts
Joined July 2013
DaDeceptive0ne
Ye. My heart only beats for vayne. Screw me *-*

Deceptive~
-MikasaChan-
19 posts
Joined April 2013
-MikasaChan-
<3
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maal
maal

-MikasaChan- wrote:

I don't like LoL at all.I dont know why
was it necessary to post then?



also quinn best adc
Justykanna
1,090 posts
Joined April 2011
Justykanna

maal wrote:

also quinn best adc
I have very rarely been seeing her used in games at all. Guess she's not too popular lol.
DaDeceptive0ne
8 posts
Joined July 2013
DaDeceptive0ne
She's pretty strong though i love vayne just said
maal
maal

Justykanna wrote:

maal wrote:

also quinn best adc
I have very rarely been seeing her used in games at all. Guess she's not too popular lol.
see her as... galio; they never get played, but they are OP because people don't know how to build against them.
DaDeceptive0ne
8 posts
Joined July 2013
DaDeceptive0ne
Ye and ppl are so uncoordinated nowadays. Funny to see how one person can win the whole game.
winber1
4,519 posts
Joined February 2010
winber1
all quinn does is assassinate other adc's if she gets her combo off. she doesn't really fair too well against other people, assuming everyone is evenly fed.
maal
maal

winber1 wrote:

all quinn does is assassinate other adc's if she gets her combo off. she doesn't really fair too well against other people, assuming everyone is evenly fed.
i bet you play a bad quinn then
Hika
1,553 posts
Joined February 2010
Hika

DaDeceptive0ne wrote:

Ye and ppl are so uncoordinated nowadays. Funny to see how one person can win the whole game.
even when I carry, my team tends to lose; that's been happening lately too.
it's so angering when all lanes feed but your lane doesn't
Kanye West
2,222 posts
Joined July 2011
Kanye West
Nah, winber's right. AD carries are "viable" because either they're safe (cait, graves, ez), hyper carry lategame (vayne, kog, trist), utility/initiation (ashe, varus) or outright win lane and snowball (draven)

Quinn doesn't really fill any of these niches as well as some other adcs. She's not that safe in lane pre-6, definitely not a late game hypercarry, has pretty much no utility other than a short blind, and has a few bad matchups.

Basically she's just an average solo queue champ, nowhere near best adc. Actually i had a hard time vs a solo top Quinn as lee sin until I got some armor and levels in w, her damage is kinda stupid early game vs melee
maal
maal

Kanye West wrote:

Nah, winber's right. AD carries are "viable" because either they're safe (cait, graves, ez), hyper carry lategame (vayne, kog, trist), utility/initiation (ashe, varus) or outright win lane and snowball (draven)

Quinn doesn't really fill any of these niches as well as some other adcs. She's not that safe in lane pre-6, definitely not a late game hypercarry, has pretty much no utility other than a short blind, and has a few bad matchups.

Basically she's just an average solo queue champ, nowhere near best adc. Actually i had a hard time vs a solo top Quinn as lee sin until I got some armor and levels in w, her damage is kinda stupid early game vs melee
so because you say it, it's true.

nice logic
Vulf
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Vulf

DaDeceptive0ne wrote:

Ye and ppl are so uncoordinated nowadays. Funny to see how one person can win the whole game.
It can take one person to throw the game. Works both ways.
Azer
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Azer

maal wrote:

Kanye West wrote:

Nah, winber's right. AD carries are "viable" because either they're safe (cait, graves, ez), hyper carry lategame (vayne, kog, trist), utility/initiation (ashe, varus) or outright win lane and snowball (draven)

Quinn doesn't really fill any of these niches as well as some other adcs. She's not that safe in lane pre-6, definitely not a late game hypercarry, has pretty much no utility other than a short blind, and has a few bad matchups.

Basically she's just an average solo queue champ, nowhere near best adc. Actually i had a hard time vs a solo top Quinn as lee sin until I got some armor and levels in w, her damage is kinda stupid early game vs melee
so because you say it, it's true.

nice logic

He's right. Quinn isn't too good as an adc and she fares off much better in a solo lane against an AD champion. your blind and mobility nullifies the majority of your opponents trade and your passive procs are strong enough to burst someone out of lane in one combo. When used in bottom lane there are many other better choices as far as adcs go but her kit kinda fucks her over late game where you need to jump in and most likely get focused. When you die your team loses so much damage that the fight is most likely lost. Whereas if you put quinn in a sololane and she dies you'll still have the other, safer adc to do some deeps.
Just my two cents, I could be wrong but this is what I've observed over time.
DaDeceptive0ne
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DaDeceptive0ne

Vulf wrote:

DaDeceptive0ne wrote:

Ye and ppl are so uncoordinated nowadays. Funny to see how one person can win the whole game.
It can take one person to throw the game. Works both ways.
Thats so ridiculous, but true. +1 for you my friend.

Deceptive~
those
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those
It's like trying to justify using Jayce as an AD carry.
Kanye West
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Kanye West
Dont just take my word for it, look at the competitive scene. There's a reason why Quinn has never been played competitively; as an ad carryshe gets outclassed in every niche.

those wrote:

It's like trying to justify using Jayce as an AD carry.
Jayce + Leona/thresh/blitz is a fun kill lane in soloq, tons of damage yo, jayce clearly best adc
maal
maal

Kanye West wrote:

Dont just take my word for it, look at the competitive scene. There's a reason why Quinn has never been played competitively; as an ad carryshe gets outclassed in every niche.

those wrote:

It's like trying to justify using Jayce as an AD carry.
Jayce + Leona/thresh/blitz is a fun kill lane in soloq
look at my previous post, where i said "people dont know how to play her"

but whatever; preferences.
DaDeceptive0ne
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DaDeceptive0ne
SPOILER
SK picked Quinn in LCS EU today. CandyPanda played her. Just said
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Kanye West
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Kanye West
Indeed they did.
SPOILER
They also lost.
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DaDeceptive0ne
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DaDeceptive0ne
But not just because Candy picked Quinn. He can play Quinn and he is an experienced Player.
Warnin'
But they just got raped, I still feel sry for SK.
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