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maal

Vulf wrote:

You do know this game has pretty much been "balanced" around ADC's right? Anything that was in the game that straight up hard countered them got nerfed or was removed from the game.

Nerfed:
Frozen Heart
Randuins (like 8 times make that 9 including the one on PBE atm)
Frozen Mallet (Can't have people sticking to adc's you know)
Various bruisers and assassin's that had the power to remove them from a fight instantly.

Removed:
Olaf (Oh shit this guy can't be CC'd when he charges me????? pls nerf)
Urgot (Before his nerf there was no ADC in the game that could win bot against him. His late game was a bit ridiculous back then though.)

I'd also like to point out that when something bot lane becomes a problem it's almost always a support that gets gutted, while an adc gets some minor tweak unless your name is sivir and urgot. It's got to the point that some of them work top lane because bruisers have been nerfed so much.
omgggggggggggggggggg

i tught it was balncd onnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn suprots!!!!!1!!111!!!1
Vulf
That meta has already happened, and it was brutally nerfed like a month later lol.

RIP:
1.2 AP Nidalee heals
1.1 AP Taric heals
1.0 AP Soraka heals
Kanye West
you forgot the release vayne nerf

otherwise I agree with your sentiments.
Macacito
how about proxy singed
Anhedonia
this game lol

Vulf

Kanye West wrote:

you forgot the release vayne nerf

otherwise I agree with your sentiments.
It was pretty much a summarisation of this thread on the LoL forums. http://na.leagueoflegends.com/board/sho ... ?t=3551106

I really hope some serious changes happen in season 4, because i don't think i can take a 3rd season of this stagnant meta. At least season 2 was still kinda interesting till the very end. Season 3 has been boring since the start. Competitive play is predictable and awful to watch. I find more enjoyment out of watching my bronze 5 friends play ranked, because of how random it is.

Macacito wrote:

how about proxy singed


Death count gold was adjusted this patch.
Blaziken
I started playing LoL in S3, it wasn't always like this?
Nofool

Blaziken wrote:

I started playing LoL in S3, it wasn't always like this?
Nope XD
maal
now i understand why people hate french people....
Kanye West
matched with entire teams of gold 3 to gold 5 in my silver 4 promos, wtf

eh, at least skipped and got promoted to silver 2 so it was worth

oh and also, season 1 had the best meta and changes

I really miss the days of two bans per team in ranked and true global ults
Nofool
I miss the first tf ult's range ;_; what happened maal ?
Kanye West
The "first TF's" ult was actually a 70% global slow and vision reveal. His gold card was an AoE stun and his E was a 20-second CD global teleport.
BrokenArrow

Kanye West wrote:

The "first TF's" ult was actually a 70% global slow and vision reveal. His gold card was an AoE stun and his E was a 20-second CD global teleport.
What on earth..
Blaziken

Kanye West wrote:

The "first TF's" ult was actually a 70% global slow and vision reveal. His gold card was an AoE stun and his E was a 20-second CD global teleport.
Sounds ridiculously OP
I wanna try it.
Kanye West
Tenshi
Wow, must've been so fun back then.
Vulf
It really was... Mostly because you never knew what you would go up against or what your team would really be composed of. Back then the meta wasn't really enforced hard like it is today. Lanes were completely random at one point. Bot and top was a random 2v2 mix of everything and ADC's and Junglers weren't mandatory at all really (until AD's started going mid). The 0 cs support role wasn't really a thing yet because stuff like Taric and Sion roamed (oh god roam sion D:). There was still a meta but it wasn't really enforced.
Hika
what a nice patch
Zerostarry


was looking grim until after lane phase, then I got a quadra to end it =3=!

I'm almost in bronze 1. Then it's only one more division until silver. I dunno if i'm really a bronze player cause i've been shooting up, but i'd rather work my way up anyways. Also looking for serious ranked players to contact me, i'm always down to play some normals, discuss meta, etc.

My summoner name is "Dani Orz" 8-)
Glass
Just a heads up... there's currently a major bug that a lot of people have been abusing to avoid losses, here's a video showcasing the bug so I'm not going to explain it here. It's basically a drop-hack within the client so DO NOT attempt this because you'll likely get banned. I recommend avoiding ranked until Riot fixes this because there's a huge chance that somebody uses the bug and denies a win from you, especially in low ELO ranked where people are so desperate to climb.
those
Private video :<

Is it the Tiamat bug
Glass

those wrote:

Private video :<

Is it the Tiamat bug
Yep. I guess the guy took down the video.
Hika
And if no one knows what that bug is, here's a video of it since it came to my attention today as well :P
http://www.twitch.tv/n3ac3y/c/2557733
Kanye West

Vulf wrote:

It really was... Mostly because you never knew what you would go up against or what your team would really be composed of. Back then the meta wasn't really enforced hard like it is today. Lanes were completely random at one point. Bot and top was a random 2v2 mix of everything and ADC's and Junglers weren't mandatory at all really (until AD's started going mid). The 0 cs support role wasn't really a thing yet because stuff like Taric and Sion roamed (oh god roam sion D:). There was still a meta but it wasn't really enforced.
taric garen and taric sion were the most op lanes, heck I even saw a taric brand, and ashe and corki were the best midlaners

also I remember streamers trying crazy stuff and winning in high elo, like rain man going 3 heart of gold roaming vlad or alistar blitzcrank double jungle, good stuff
Vulf
Shyvana's new E has no cap on monsters. Have fun soloing baron and dragon faster than Nunu.
tyrael6192


what a time to be alive
Stefan


= ="
Iggy
Ah my time to shine has begun!

Played a LeBlanc against Zed and completely wrecked that piece of shit shadow. So satisfying to land mimic'd Q after ult gets to level 2.
Also the amount of jumps is pretty fantastic.

I still feel that the first level of ult is a lackluster.
SiFly_old


Riven was f2p, not that hard as I expected.
Devalix_old
Them TSM picks

Hakeru
What Meta

edit : support annie wat
Azer




We actually spomped the fuck out of that lane somehow, new lb is possible a new adc ahri kinda thing?
Stefan

Hakeru wrote:

What Meta

edit : support annie wat
Makes fun as poop
Kanye West
It was a good idea but they executed it poorly, gave away 4 kills early, fell behind in farm, dragons and gold, and had a weaker lategame anyway so no possible way to come back.

Kill lanes are actually quite good against adc/support lanes, but are countered by Cait (long range, escape) and Janna (disengage). They also get shut down by ganks and counterganks, which is why they don't see much play in competitive play because coordinated teams know how to deal with it.
Vulf

Igenatius wrote:

Ah my time to shine has begun!

Played a LeBlanc against Zed and completely wrecked that piece of shit shadow. So satisfying to land mimic'd Q after ult gets to level 2.
Also the amount of jumps is pretty fantastic.

I still feel that the first level of ult is a lackluster.
The new Leblanc is trash now. The changes were a straight up nerf to that champion for the most part. They severely nerfed her early game to slightly buffed her late game (barely a buff).

The whole point of leblanc was her early game and they took that away so she is just awful now.
Justykanna

Vulf wrote:

The new Leblanc is trash now. The changes were a straight up nerf to that champion for the most part. They severely nerfed her early game to slightly buffed her late game (barely a buff).

The whole point of leblanc was her early game and they took that away so she is just awful now.
I've played a lot of Leblancs that could pretty much one-shot champions... I've never faced any champion that could kill 'that' quickly so the nerf was probably in place for a reason...
Vulf

Justykanna wrote:

Vulf wrote:

The new Leblanc is trash now. The changes were a straight up nerf to that champion for the most part. They severely nerfed her early game to slightly buffed her late game (barely a buff).

The whole point of leblanc was her early game and they took that away so she is just awful now.
I've played a lot of Leblancs that could pretty much one-shot champions... I've never faced any champion that could kill 'that' quickly so the nerf was probably in place for a reason...
That is the whole point of leblanc (burst mages in general). After she uses her entire combo she is completely useless for a few seconds.

Edit: Leblanc had one of THE lowest win rates and she was rarely picked. It makes literally no sense to nerf her. Zed, Kha, Rengar (if ahead) can burst harder than she can mid-late game. She just did it early game extremely well. She falls off late because she is single target. They labeled this as a buff when it definitely isn't a buff. That's the problem.
Kanye West
The only part of it that I would consider a "buff" was the zero mana cost of the ult at all ranks. Mimic not scaling based on mimic'd ability level was just a complete nerf.
pielak213
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Nofool
^this ratio win/lose o_o wp
SiFly_old
Support annie was played last week in OGN, and used before in brand/annie kill lanes. It didn't seem to work well in the OGN game, though they still won, but not due great annie plays/stuns.

And the 56% winrate is nice, but not completely amazing, and should be doable with her/his plat 1 skills ;) (i got 59% in normals as gold V, so i guess she/he stills wins games very easily)
BrokenArrow
C9 vs. VUL was the most exciting match I've seen this year. Holy shit that was amazing.
Azer



PROTECT THE TEEMO
Devalix_old
I've been duo q'ing with a friend and so far we're on a win streak of 11 games.

Also one more win and I'm promoted to silver I :D
Justykanna

Devalix wrote:

I've been duo q'ing with a friend and so far we're on a win streak of 11 games.

Also one more win and I'm promoted to silver I
Wow, that's quite the streak. =O




I love how Singed was calling his team out when he went 1/12/0...
KvdV96
I recently went from Gold 3 to Gold 1. I skipped a division. :) I hope I can get to platinum. My name is KvdV96 and I play on euw for people that want to add me. I play really often with friends though.
tyrael6192

Justykanna wrote:

Devalix wrote:

I've been duo q'ing with a friend and so far we're on a win streak of 11 games.

Also one more win and I'm promoted to silver I
Wow, that's quite the streak. =O




I love how Singed was calling his team out when he went 1/12/0...
proxy singed
Blaziken


I love it when a champion I have no intention of buying goes free....
Justykanna

tyrael6192 wrote:

proxy singed
What's proxy Singed? Aside from dying several times. o_o
Devalix_old
It's when your whole team goes on singed all game so the rest of the team gets objectives. You usually just farm behind towers all game (yes on level 1 too).
BrokenArrow
Distracting the enemy, getting tons of cs and keeping your lanes pushed denying xp and gold for the enemy team.
Used to be more effective pre 3.9.
tyrael6192
basically you farm past the enemy turrets. you completely ignore the enemy top laner and run past the turret and farm in the enemy base by killing all the creeps that spawn for the 3 lanes. if u die then ok, they can keep killing you and you become worth nothing (although the recent death streak gold change is supposed to address this a bit i guess) and so u end up with a terrible score but stupid amounts of farm so it doesn't matter because you still have tons of gold

and yeah ninja'd twice but this helps team in certain ways
Justykanna

tyrael6192 wrote:

basically you farm past the enemy turrets. you completely ignore the enemy top laner and run past the turret and farm in the enemy base by killing all the creeps that spawn for the 3 lanes. if u die then ok, they can keep killing you and you become worth nothing (although the recent death streak gold change is supposed to address this a bit i guess) and so u end up with a terrible score but stupid amounts of farm so it doesn't matter because you still have tons of gold

and yeah ninja'd twice but this helps team in certain ways
He'd farm one wave, then die... like... every time. They never got dragon and only downed two of our turrets all game. Then his team would fight us 5v4 and lose because they're down someone while he's farming. Feels like a pointless way to go imo. Especially because he's worth gold at the beginning and it gave my team free kills / assists.

A little... Making the minimum 35 gold more isn't much more lol.
Devalix_old
Watch this guy and see what proxy singed can do http://www.twitch.tv/druiddroid
BrokenArrow

Justykanna wrote:

tyrael6192 wrote:

basically you farm past the enemy turrets. you completely ignore the enemy top laner and run past the turret and farm in the enemy base by killing all the creeps that spawn for the 3 lanes. if u die then ok, they can keep killing you and you become worth nothing (although the recent death streak gold change is supposed to address this a bit i guess) and so u end up with a terrible score but stupid amounts of farm so it doesn't matter because you still have tons of gold

and yeah ninja'd twice but this helps team in certain ways
He'd farm one wave, then die... like... every time. They never got dragon and only downed two of our turrets all game. Then his team would fight us 5v4 and lose because they're down someone while he's farming. Feels like a pointless way to go imo. Especially because he's worth gold at the beginning and it gave my team free kills / assists.

A little... Making the minimum 35 gold more isn't much more lol.
Then he was just doing bad and/or the team didn't make use of their advantage at all.
Note that this can be countered easily and most likely doesn't work on high elo as people know how to deal with proxy singed.
maal
so uh annie got patched

Azer

maal wrote:

so uh annie got patched

I'm okay with this.
Tenshi

maal wrote:

so uh annie got patched

Kanye West
proxy singed is so easy to counter

just go solo top vayne, rush sword of the occult and lifesteal and farm him for stacks

also you can tank the creep waves to stop them from hitting your tower and lifesteal all your health back

plus the death streak gold count got nerfed anyways
Azer

Kanye West wrote:

proxy singed is so easy to counter

just go solo top vayne, rush sword of the occult and lifesteal and farm him for stacks

also you can tank the creep waves to stop them from hitting your tower and lifesteal all your health back

plus the death streak gold count got nerfed anyways
and if hes not proxy then good luck with your poor frontline late game lol
Synchrostar


ad tf with thresh support is fun
Azer
this fucking game
Justykanna
Had a game today where a Trundle called bottom.
The ADC asked him to stop poking the minions about five minutes in and he said "Dude, I'm not a support". He was clearly fighting Varus for the minion kills.
... I was confused. He did a good job helping Varus in trades / engages but... people need to think a little bit.
Not like I cared after all was finished, we won the game.
Icyteru

Synchrostar wrote:



ad tf with thresh support is fun
Your build lacks DORRA DORRA GET HORRA
GeeNX


OP
Noobrage_old
GG Noobrage= EUW Gold 2
GG N00hrage= TR Plat 4

Maining an awesome Graves if someone is doing an awesome supp he can add me ^.^
ItsukiKun
So I started smurfing on a different server (From PH to NA) and played my first normal...


You can see that it didn't go so well... :( :( :(
Also first time normal as kennen and dat kat...
Kanye West
Yeah I tried smurfing on Oceania servers and got crushed in my first game too. It's so hard to play with 260 ping, idk how the Australians did it on the NA server.
maal
tyrael haven't been online in 2 days, i am missing my baby :C:C:C:C
sCam
for the third time, still oooking for ppl to play league with, still no one ever hit me up or wanna play league with me, I'm bout to give up asking.
tyrael6192

maal wrote:

tyrael haven't been online in 2 days, i am missing my baby :C:C:C:C
i broke my mouse an d i ordered a new one and it's coming tomorrow

i'm sorry orz
maal

tyrael6192 wrote:

maal wrote:

tyrael haven't been online in 2 days, i am missing my baby :C:C:C:C
i broke my mouse an d i ordered a new one and it's coming tomorrow

i'm sorry orz
YAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY
tyrael6192

maal wrote:

tyrael6192 wrote:

i broke my mouse an d i ordered a new one and it's coming tomorrow

i'm sorry orz
YAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY
maal
do it fgt

you better be online tomorrow
Justykanna

That was an impressively bad game all around.
Renekton wasn't bad, but my friend and I got stuck in our worst lane, Ezreal started 4/0 and followed that up with 10+ deaths, and our Amumu... ... was special.
20:00 minute mark and the surrender doesn't go through.
I sigh.
Edit: Why do people sell their items at the end of the game? I don't get what it accomplishes.
tyrael6192
it makes people think they were 'trolling' and justifies their bad score somehow

when in reality actually they were playing 100% seriously most of the time and just suck
ItsukiKun

Justykanna wrote:

Why do people sell their items at the end of the game? I don't get what it accomplishes.
Nothing. People just do it 'cause they're bored... kinda like jumping into the enemy base right before the nexus dies.

tyrael6192 wrote:

it makes people think they were 'trolling' and justifies their bad score somehow

when in reality actually they were playing 100% seriously most of the time and just suck
Ikr? One of the reasons that made me smurf on another server... PH has lots of ppl like that. >:(
maal

Justykanna wrote:


That was an impressively bad game all around.
Renekton wasn't bad, but my friend and I got stuck in our worst lane, Ezreal started 4/0 and followed that up with 10+ deaths, and our Amumu... ... was special.
20:00 minute mark and the surrender doesn't go through.
I sigh.
Edit: Why do people sell their items at the end of the game? I don't get what it accomplishes.
makes them feel better

reverse psychology
Backfire

*cries*
Kanye West

tyrael6192 wrote:

it makes people think they were 'trolling' and justifies their bad score somehow

when in reality actually they were playing 100% seriously most of the time and just suck
nah, sometimes i do it for fun, no matter if we win or lose, like i sell all my items and buy only trinity forces like phreak does on stream
Noobrage_old


Typical enemys on ranked.
Was ofc a easy win ^__^
ItsukiKun

Backfire wrote:


*cries*
That's nothing, srsly. I've been through worse...
rengar 33/11
darius 34/12 and 39/17
fiora 27/19 (I think?)
all defeat... :cry:
Vulf

Backfire wrote:


*cries*
If you think K/D/A means a lot in this game you are going to have a bad time.
maal

Noobrage wrote:



Typical enemys on ranked.
Was ofc a easy win ^__^
the bragging is strong in this one




and apparently it's possible to be promoted from challenger
Azer
Justykanna

tyrael6192 wrote:

it makes people think they were 'trolling' and justifies their bad score somehow

when in reality actually they were playing 100% seriously most of the time and just suck
Except Renekton was the only one on our team who played decently.

maal wrote:

makes them feel better

reverse psychology
How so?
Backfire

Vulf wrote:

Backfire wrote:


*cries*
If you think K/D/A means a lot in this game you are going to have a bad time.
It does because it was fucked because they have bad K/D/A. K/D/A does matter, it just matters what everyones is. We >should have fucking won<.
Justykanna

Backfire wrote:

It does because it was fucked because they have bad K/D/A. K/D/A does matter, it just matters what everyones is. We >should have fucking won<.
Assuming you can base it on that, Kayle died once, Garen died three times and the ADC only died four times. That's not nearly enough to justify a win - especially because your ADC and APC were both low on gold and higher on deaths than the three I mentioned.

You have to consider when the people have their deaths too because that affects how the game goes (higher level deaths = longer dead time for example)... then there are aces, etc.
Vulf

Backfire wrote:

It does because it was fucked because they have bad K/D/A. K/D/A does matter, it just matters what everyones is. We >should have fucking won<.
If KDA actually meant something then every support player would be fucked. Proxy singed is a perfect example that KDA means nothing because you basically win by feeding to abuse certain mechanics of the game while at the same time putting an enormous amout of pressure on all lanes.

This isn't a single player game. Having good teamwork skills and knowledge of game mechanics influences the match outcome a lot more.
BrokenArrow
Yo can someone explain to me the structure about this whole tournament thingy going on right now? I started watching competitive play in LoL just recently and I don't fully get it yet and I'm apparently too lazy to google it.
Like how is it decided who's gonna be in the world cup's finals, when will it start, what is this whole lcs spring/summer split and allstars all about, etc.

Help for a noob would be appreciated. :|
Nofool
i don't realy understand how the current tournament is working too but there'll be tournaments like that in every region to determine the 14 best teams in the world. then it'll be the same witht the 14 teams i guess, they'll all play against each others and the two teams with the best w/d ratio will be in the final, or it'll just be a single tournament with qualifications.
so the current tournaments (lcs spring/summer) serve to find the 4 best teams in every region.
the allstars tournament was just a tournament with one team per region with the 5 best players from every region. the results of this tournament don't have any relation with the world championship.

i hope someone can explain better than me ,_,
Azer

Nofool wrote:

i hope someone can explain better than me ,_,
Here.

BrokenArrow wrote:

Yo can someone explain to me the structure about this whole tournament thingy going on right now? I started watching competitive play in LoL just recently and I don't fully get it yet and I'm apparently too lazy to google it.
Like how is it decided who's gonna be in the world cup's finals, when will it start, what is this whole lcs spring/summer split and allstars all about, etc.

Help for a noob would be appreciated. :|

To put it really simply and bluntly
Each region has their own 'LCS' thing with like 8 teams. It's like a season where they play for a few months and then have standings at the end.
The 3 best korean teams will go to worlds.
The 2 best North American, European and Chinese teams will go to worlds.
The best team for the Garena league will go to worlds.

The LCS had a summer/spring split to let more teams compete in relegations so that the starting roster for the summer split would not necessarily be the same as the spring split, and I think each region had this kind of thing but I'm not too sure.

Alltars was an event to let a region have one more team in the world finals. Korea won (I think) and they got a 3rd slot for another team to go.

I could explain it beter than that but I don't need to, a simple explanation should be good enough :)
Nofool

Azer wrote:

Alltars was an event to let a region have one more team in the world finals. Korea won (I think) and they got a 3rd slot for another team to go.
sorry didn't know
BrokenArrow
Thanks Nofool and Azer for helping out, I think I got the most important stuff now. :3
DaDeceptive0ne
Is this "up to date"?

If so, I'm on EUW Server, "DaDeceptive0ne" (ye, thats a zero no big "oh"). Im lvl 30 for a long time and I keep reaching Platinum. Seems to be closer than I thought first.

I play everything but support. Actually playing mid > adc > jungle > top (> support). I played in a lot of teams and I always fit in another role, thats why I'm more the "alrounder". In my last team I played jungle as main. Xin and Nautilis, Hecarim and Malphite, Mumu and Shen. As they kept nerfing everything I just went over to Jarvan and Zac.
I rarely play support, but if I have to (like in rankeds), I will just fit into the team.

Cheerio, Deceptive~
BrokenArrow
Yes this is up-to-date, as you can see this part of the forum is pretty active recently. We could play a match together as soon as I get my internet connection improved. In the meanwhile you might want to join our osu! ranked team, new members are always welcome. :3 (mid is my position, dare to get in my way)
SiFly_old
EU/NA actually have 3 spots in the s3 finals. According to recent news about those spots.

Korea has also 3 spots for winning allstar event.

China/Southeast asia both have 2 spots.
Azer


2fun
Blaziken
Spirit Guard Udyr skin out.... As soon as I used my RP for Miss Fortune...
Hika
You know, the skin is totally worth it but I don't have Udyr. They make the skin sound SOOO GOOOOOOOD.
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