Orianna. That's not too hard to figure out. Though it could be argued that full effect of Twisted Fate's power may be a little difficult. He is all about timing windows. And Lee Sin too.[AirCoN] wrote:
Who is, mechanically, the hardest champion to play effectively.
depends on what you mean by "hardest to play effectively"[AirCoN] wrote:
Who is, mechanically, the hardest champion to play effectively.
sure, in lane cassio can stomp anyone, kind of like draven in botlane, but the real difficulty behind her is using her to max potential in teamfights. you basically have to position perfectly for an ult and then spend the rest of the fight trying not to get killed from diversTKiller wrote:
I can see why you mention Syndra but Cassiopea?
Just hit every fucking button.
Her skill shots are incredibly easy to dodge.TKiller wrote:
I can see why you mention Syndra but Cassiopea?
Just hit every fucking button.
SOON™Vulf wrote:
eventually.
don't mind the fact that your early game is so ridiculously strong that you can kill the enemy adc 100-0 in 4 or 5 axes...SiFly wrote:
Draven is impossible to play, when you aa an enemy you have to direct toward where you want your axes to land and catch and repeat. This means.. you'll have to know where you want to be with your next autoattack, very quickly and constanly. Aiming the axe landing position is already very hard to do mechanically.
Soon™Justykanna wrote:
"Eventually", lol. Who knows when that'll be.Vulf wrote:
After harassing Morello constantly on both the LoL forums and Twitter about Warwick I finally got a response that he will be getting something eventually.
Who is, mechanically, the hardest champion to play effectivelyI don't know who's the hardest but some tough ones are Draven, Orianna, Cassio, Syndra.
You can even just watch the health bars of your allies and press the F2-5 keys to watch them quickly if you see something happen ;sDevalix wrote:
Pro tip: Don't play Shen if you're too stupid/blind to look at the minimap.
Shen in my game didn't ult once during laning phase because he had "a hard time in lane".
ATK SPEED JANNAIgenatius wrote:
Also one thing I want to note about support champions, a good Janna is a blessing to your team. A bad Janna and the match is 4v6.
Eh?Vulf wrote:
Because Urgot was overnerfed after the one time he saw tournament play.
He is still good in a solo lane imo, but he is terrible as an adc carry now.
Yeah it's definitely up to the supports. Maybe Draven was a bad example, my point is that he can zone people out really easily if he can get E and max amount of Q once. That doesn't drain your mana too badly but it does drain their HP really badly.Kanye West wrote:
I think draven vs urgot is even and probably decided by the supports, especially considering draven doesn't need mana to harass while urgot has mana problems in early laning
plus, urgot is very reliant on hitting his E+Q to get his damage off, while draven just needs to press q and auto.
That's easy, say "taking anything needed" in champ select.Glass wrote:
how the fuck do you get to plat and still not have a preferred role
Before he was nerfed he WAS an anti ADC. No ADC could win trades against him ever.Igenatius wrote:
Eh?
Play him with an aggressive support and zone out fucking everyone.
Not even Draven can match his damage. Think of him as anti-AD carry.
Aren't you like plat 5? Everyone already knows that being at the bottom of a division is it's own hell because of the safety net this season.Glass wrote:
that's it
looking for an NA plat duo who plays AD, I main support and top. getting sick and tired of shitheads who say NOTHING in champ select and gives me that "I DIDN'T WANT TO PLAY ADC" shit once they get in game and play like absolute shit.
how the fuck do you get to plat and still not have a preferred role
The problem is people who say NOTHING in champ select. I'm shit at jungle and I let my team know before we start picking, I literally go into every champ select saying "pref top/spp, shit at jungle" so my team doesn't have suffer with a bad jungler like me. Even if you choose to fill the missing role every game, you'll most likely have one role that's weaker than the rest, and it's your responsibility to let your team know as soon as possible.Igenatius wrote:
That's easy, say "taking anything needed" in champ select.Glass wrote:
how the fuck do you get to plat and still not have a preferred role
I guess they don't want to make a hassle in champ select by calling roles, but when they fail they blame it on whoever left them the role.
Bad way to do things, but not the worst.
Yes I'm in plat5. We're supposed to get queued depending on our MMR, but once I got into plat 5 I've had nothing but SHIT TIER bot laners literally every time someone didn't call for the role, like bronze/silver level ADCs without any sense of how to play the damn game. I've tried to play ADC but it's the same story, the guy who gets forced into support plays like absolute shit and I get zoned to hell in lane.Vulf wrote:
Aren't you like plat 5? Everyone already knows that being at the bottom of a division is it's own hell because of the safety net this season.Glass wrote:
that's it
looking for an NA plat duo who plays AD, I main support and top. getting sick and tired of shitheads who say NOTHING in champ select and gives me that "I DIDN'T WANT TO PLAY ADC" shit once they get in game and play like absolute shit.
how the fuck do you get to plat and still not have a preferred role
yeah follow this advice, when I'm close to last pick I usually say "filling in" because I know I'm not going to get my choice pick and I can play any role (like everyone should be able to do in ranked/draft anyways)Igenatius wrote:
That's easy, say "taking anything needed" in champ select.Glass wrote:
how the fuck do you get to plat and still not have a preferred role
I guess they don't want to make a hassle in champ select by calling roles, but when they fail they blame it on whoever left them the role.
Bad way to do things, but not the worst.
? this is true for all rolessilmarilen wrote:
because as a support you have to know where and when to ward
Hows this for preferred role Bik boiiiGlass wrote:
how the fuck do you get to plat and still not have a preferred role
Honestly, I think it's her cutest skin. Ice one is nice too, but I can't resist that beautiful hair they give her in ironscale.Synchrostar wrote:
oh ironscale shyvana, nice skin
KRZY wrote:
top mid jungle support adc in order
fill to win
Something that also helps when you play support, to attack the enemy, or just act like you are gonna attack them. Amazes me how many supports don't even think about this. Lets go afk here and click heal once in a while... place 1-2 wards every 3 mins. GG.Kanye West wrote:
I figured out how to carry as support in solo queue
play support kha'zix
Know that feel.Devalix wrote:
Please may the gods of League of Legends favor me in winning 2 of my 3 promo matches...
... since this is the 5th time allready
know the feeling, im on my 4th promotion. let's hope i win the 3 out of 5 ^^Devalix wrote:
Please may the gods of League of Legends favor me in winning 2 of my 3 promo matches...
... since this is the 5th time allready
What, how? I don't think I've had even a three minute queue before. =SVulf wrote:
I just had to wait 17 mins in a queue for a normal game. D:
It's the shitBlaziken wrote:
Mecha Kha Zix went on sale. Bought dat shit.
Yes I got that, I meant that I almost fell off my chair laughing.Nofool wrote:
his skills don't have any cd (2sec) so... "always a button(skill) to press"
Lucky bastard, gimme some of those wins!Fabi wrote:
Literally 2 match history of wins, around 15-16 of ranked games and a few arams.
300% damage to minions, but NOT monsters.Nofool wrote:
this skill got something like 0,4 ap ratio/0,1 ad ratio, and "the number of shots scales with his AS"...omg
300% damage to minions, see you nash o/, see you anyone i guess ,_,
omggggggggggggggggggVulf wrote:
You do know this game has pretty much been "balanced" around ADC's right? Anything that was in the game that straight up hard countered them got nerfed or was removed from the game.
Nerfed:
Frozen Heart
Randuins (like 8 times make that 9 including the one on PBE atm)
Frozen Mallet (Can't have people sticking to adc's you know)
Various bruisers and assassin's that had the power to remove them from a fight instantly.
Removed:
Olaf (Oh shit this guy can't be CC'd when he charges me????? pls nerf)
Urgot (Before his nerf there was no ADC in the game that could win bot against him. His late game was a bit ridiculous back then though.)
I'd also like to point out that when something bot lane becomes a problem it's almost always a support that gets gutted, while an adc gets some minor tweak unless your name is sivir and urgot. It's got to the point that some of them work top lane because bruisers have been nerfed so much.
It was pretty much a summarisation of this thread on the LoL forums. http://na.leagueoflegends.com/board/sho ... ?t=3551106Kanye West wrote:
you forgot the release vayne nerf
otherwise I agree with your sentiments.
Macacito wrote:
how about proxy singed
Nope XDBlaziken wrote:
I started playing LoL in S3, it wasn't always like this?
What on earth..Kanye West wrote:
The "first TF's" ult was actually a 70% global slow and vision reveal. His gold card was an AoE stun and his E was a 20-second CD global teleport.
Sounds ridiculously OPKanye West wrote:
The "first TF's" ult was actually a 70% global slow and vision reveal. His gold card was an AoE stun and his E was a 20-second CD global teleport.
Yep. I guess the guy took down the video.those wrote:
Private video :<
Is it the Tiamat bug
taric garen and taric sion were the most op lanes, heck I even saw a taric brand, and ashe and corki were the best midlanersVulf wrote:
It really was... Mostly because you never knew what you would go up against or what your team would really be composed of. Back then the meta wasn't really enforced hard like it is today. Lanes were completely random at one point. Bot and top was a random 2v2 mix of everything and ADC's and Junglers weren't mandatory at all really (until AD's started going mid). The 0 cs support role wasn't really a thing yet because stuff like Taric and Sion roamed (oh god roam sion D:). There was still a meta but it wasn't really enforced.
