Because Urgot was overnerfed after the one time he saw tournament play.
He is still good in a solo lane imo, but he is terrible as an adc carry now.
He is still good in a solo lane imo, but he is terrible as an adc carry now.
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Eh?Vulf wrote:
Because Urgot was overnerfed after the one time he saw tournament play.
He is still good in a solo lane imo, but he is terrible as an adc carry now.
Play him with an aggressive support and zone out fucking everyone.
Not even Draven can match his damage. Think of him as anti-AD carry.
I think draven vs urgot is even and probably decided by the supports, especially considering draven doesn't need mana to harass while urgot has mana problems in early laning
plus, urgot is very reliant on hitting his E+Q to get his damage off, while draven just needs to press q and auto.
plus, urgot is very reliant on hitting his E+Q to get his damage off, while draven just needs to press q and auto.
that's it
looking for an NA plat duo who plays AD, I main support and top. getting sick and tired of shitheads who say NOTHING in champ select and gives me that "I DIDN'T WANT TO PLAY ADC" shit once they get in game and play like absolute shit.
how the fuck do you get to plat and still not have a preferred role
looking for an NA plat duo who plays AD, I main support and top. getting sick and tired of shitheads who say NOTHING in champ select and gives me that "I DIDN'T WANT TO PLAY ADC" shit once they get in game and play like absolute shit.
how the fuck do you get to plat and still not have a preferred role
Yeah it's definitely up to the supports. Maybe Draven was a bad example, my point is that he can zone people out really easily if he can get E and max amount of Q once. That doesn't drain your mana too badly but it does drain their HP really badly.Kanye West wrote:
I think draven vs urgot is even and probably decided by the supports, especially considering draven doesn't need mana to harass while urgot has mana problems in early laning
plus, urgot is very reliant on hitting his E+Q to get his damage off, while draven just needs to press q and auto.
Though Urgot is in a spot where you actually have to know how to play him to be succesful, a good urgot is still a nightmare for unwary ad carries.
That's easy, say "taking anything needed" in champ select.Glass wrote:
how the fuck do you get to plat and still not have a preferred role
I guess they don't want to make a hassle in champ select by calling roles, but when they fail they blame it on whoever left them the role.
Bad way to do things, but not the worst.
Before he was nerfed he WAS an anti ADC. No ADC could win trades against him ever.Igenatius wrote:
Eh?
Play him with an aggressive support and zone out fucking everyone.
Not even Draven can match his damage. Think of him as anti-AD carry.
Aren't you like plat 5? Everyone already knows that being at the bottom of a division is it's own hell because of the safety net this season.Glass wrote:
that's it
looking for an NA plat duo who plays AD, I main support and top. getting sick and tired of shitheads who say NOTHING in champ select and gives me that "I DIDN'T WANT TO PLAY ADC" shit once they get in game and play like absolute shit.
how the fuck do you get to plat and still not have a preferred role
The problem is people who say NOTHING in champ select. I'm shit at jungle and I let my team know before we start picking, I literally go into every champ select saying "pref top/spp, shit at jungle" so my team doesn't have suffer with a bad jungler like me. Even if you choose to fill the missing role every game, you'll most likely have one role that's weaker than the rest, and it's your responsibility to let your team know as soon as possible.Igenatius wrote:
That's easy, say "taking anything needed" in champ select.Glass wrote:
how the fuck do you get to plat and still not have a preferred role
I guess they don't want to make a hassle in champ select by calling roles, but when they fail they blame it on whoever left them the role.
Bad way to do things, but not the worst.
Yes I'm in plat5. We're supposed to get queued depending on our MMR, but once I got into plat 5 I've had nothing but SHIT TIER bot laners literally every time someone didn't call for the role, like bronze/silver level ADCs without any sense of how to play the damn game. I've tried to play ADC but it's the same story, the guy who gets forced into support plays like absolute shit and I get zoned to hell in lane.Vulf wrote:
Aren't you like plat 5? Everyone already knows that being at the bottom of a division is it's own hell because of the safety net this season.Glass wrote:
that's it
looking for an NA plat duo who plays AD, I main support and top. getting sick and tired of shitheads who say NOTHING in champ select and gives me that "I DIDN'T WANT TO PLAY ADC" shit once they get in game and play like absolute shit.
how the fuck do you get to plat and still not have a preferred role
This was my MMR when I was in promo for plat:
My MMR has dropped so fucking hard since then.
yeah follow this advice, when I'm close to last pick I usually say "filling in" because I know I'm not going to get my choice pick and I can play any role (like everyone should be able to do in ranked/draft anyways)Igenatius wrote:
That's easy, say "taking anything needed" in champ select.Glass wrote:
how the fuck do you get to plat and still not have a preferred role
I guess they don't want to make a hassle in champ select by calling roles, but when they fail they blame it on whoever left them the role.
Bad way to do things, but not the worst.
I've seen so many last picks call their roles and get mad if someone else locks before them, quite annoying tbh
also I don't really understand why so many people "can't support", it's literally the easiest role to pick up and learn
because as a support you have to know where and when to ward
it's pretty simple tho, tribrush and river, ezpz
support is literally the easiest role next to adc but jungling is so difficult for me, that's the only thing I can't do well
support is literally the easiest role next to adc but jungling is so difficult for me, that's the only thing I can't do well
Support easiest role to learn, hardest role to play well.
? this is true for all rolessilmarilen wrote:
because as a support you have to know where and when to ward
feels bad playing mid with no wards
safest lane but still easy to get ganked when the enemy team realizes you're too stupid to buy wards
I figured out how to carry as support in solo queue
play support kha'zix
play support kha'zix
easiest to play is adc
click and attack
hardest to master is adc. kite, orbwalk, position.
click and attack
hardest to master is adc. kite, orbwalk, position.
Hows this for preferred role Bik boiiiGlass wrote:
how the fuck do you get to plat and still not have a preferred role
top mid jungle support adc in order
fill to win
>implying there's anything I can do when duobads on my team go 0/5 by 10 minutes every game
how much can I sell a plat5 account with about 90 champs and 30kRP on skins
Any role can be considered easiest to learn but hardest to master imo. Really depends on the player.
I consider ADC / APC (mages) the hardest because the delay that the auto attack takes to travel (for last hitting) drives me nuts.
Top's the easiest to me because you tend to face less damage-stacked players (so, bruisers or tanks) so there's less damage going out at a given pace and last hitting is easy to me (since all I play is melee). I know a few people that do not like top at all.
I consider ADC / APC (mages) the hardest because the delay that the auto attack takes to travel (for last hitting) drives me nuts.
Top's the easiest to me because you tend to face less damage-stacked players (so, bruisers or tanks) so there's less damage going out at a given pace and last hitting is easy to me (since all I play is melee). I know a few people that do not like top at all.
Probably depends on what limited skins you have. I was looking into buying an account with urf Warwick, but people wanted like $500+ for it.
The best duo in ranked from my experience is jungle+ mid. You feed mid and you basically have a jungler + a roamer. I went 8/0 with my placements in season 2 by doing this until my duo queue partner pussied out.
The best duo in ranked from my experience is jungle+ mid. You feed mid and you basically have a jungler + a roamer. I went 8/0 with my placements in season 2 by doing this until my duo queue partner pussied out.
oh ironscale shyvana, nice skin
Honestly, I think it's her cutest skin. Ice one is nice too, but I can't resist that beautiful hair they give her in ironscale.Synchrostar wrote:
oh ironscale shyvana, nice skin
also, kha'zix broke my losing streak so i'm even more pleased.
The clamp... almost unbearable
jeg vil gerne slikke din fisse
KRZY wrote:
top mid jungle support adc in order
fill to win
goiddammit i love the korean font.
Something that also helps when you play support, to attack the enemy, or just act like you are gonna attack them. Amazes me how many supports don't even think about this. Lets go afk here and click heal once in a while... place 1-2 wards every 3 mins. GG.Kanye West wrote:
I figured out how to carry as support in solo queue
play support kha'zix
And those players are saying that support is boring. Well if I just attack move on a minion wave and wait 20 min till the end of laning phase and see how many last hits i got. Guess adc is boring aswell. Spam waveclear every 30s in bot/top and wait, Such a boring lane aswell.
Please may the gods of League of Legends favor me in winning 2 of my 3 promo matches...
... since this is the 5th time allready
... since this is the 5th time allready
Know that feel.Devalix wrote:
Please may the gods of League of Legends favor me in winning 2 of my 3 promo matches...
... since this is the 5th time allready
They really need to hurry up with adding more statistics to normal games like how many games you have with X champion. Ranked isn't fun for everyone.
know the feeling, im on my 4th promotion. let's hope i win the 3 out of 5 ^^Devalix wrote:
Please may the gods of League of Legends favor me in winning 2 of my 3 promo matches...
... since this is the 5th time allready
I just had to wait 17 mins in a queue for a normal game. D:
When an ADC is able to 1v1 a bruiser in a solo lane you know there is some balance issues. Really can't wait for vayne to be destroyed.
When an ADC is able to 1v1 a bruiser in a solo lane you know there is some balance issues. Really can't wait for vayne to be destroyed.
What, how? I don't think I've had even a three minute queue before. =SVulf wrote:
I just had to wait 17 mins in a queue for a normal game. D:
It's the shitBlaziken wrote:
Mecha Kha Zix went on sale. Bought dat shit.
shit I want Kha
totally going to buy RP tonight
totally going to buy RP tonight
Same, extra RP ftw
And I've always wanted to buy Ahri and Diana because they keep shitting on me in lane
And I've always wanted to buy Ahri and Diana because they keep shitting on me in lane
< Buys Mecha Kha
< 3 weeks after on sales
Fuck
< 3 weeks after on sales
Fuck
Was reading /r/LeagueofLegends when I saw a post about the new patch.
I went through the comments to find this little conversation about Spirit Guard Udyr:
X: Can't wait for the million Udyr players.
Y: Can't blame them, Udyr is fun to play.
Z: Yup, always a button to press.
I just lost it at that last comment...
I went through the comments to find this little conversation about Spirit Guard Udyr:
X: Can't wait for the million Udyr players.
Y: Can't blame them, Udyr is fun to play.
Z: Yup, always a button to press.
I just lost it at that last comment...
his skills don't have any cd (2sec) so... "always a button(skill) to press"
Literally 2 match history of wins, around 15-16 of ranked games and a few arams.
Yes I got that, I meant that I almost fell off my chair laughing.Nofool wrote:
his skills don't have any cd (2sec) so... "always a button(skill) to press"
Lucky bastard, gimme some of those wins!Fabi wrote:
Literally 2 match history of wins, around 15-16 of ranked games and a few arams.
Fuck it #yogo
Im gonna buy that retired skin pack, it's too tempting. Just gotta get the IP for gang :c
Im gonna buy that retired skin pack, it's too tempting. Just gotta get the IP for gang :c
So Master Yi is getting a rework huh. That's neat.
From what I read in the thread though, sounds like there's only a viable AD build, since they said 'one cohesive' build. So no AP anymore. Alpha Strike will be physical damage.
From what I read in the thread though, sounds like there's only a viable AD build, since they said 'one cohesive' build. So no AP anymore. Alpha Strike will be physical damage.
maal
http://euw.leagueoflegends.com/board/sh ... ?t=1278103
we now get the black man
aaaaaaand for the video preview
we now get the black man
aaaaaaand for the video preview
adc with dash again ;_; ho wait idc i main adc 8D
maal
this skill got something like 0,4 ap ratio/0,1 ad ratio, and "the number of shots scales with his AS"...omg
300% damage to minions, see you nash o/, see you anyone i guess ,_,
300% damage to minions, see you nash o/, see you anyone i guess ,_,
You do know this game has pretty much been "balanced" around ADC's right? Anything that was in the game that straight up hard countered them got nerfed or was removed from the game.
Nerfed:
Frozen Heart
Randuins (like 8 times make that 9 including the one on PBE atm)
Frozen Mallet (Can't have people sticking to adc's you know)
Various bruisers and assassin's that had the power to remove them from a fight instantly.
Removed:
Olaf (Oh shit this guy can't be CC'd when he charges me????? pls nerf)
Urgot (Before his nerf there was no ADC in the game that could win bot against him. His late game was a bit ridiculous back then though.)
I'd also like to point out that when something bot lane becomes a problem it's almost always a support that gets gutted, while an adc gets some minor tweak unless your name is sivir and urgot. It's got to the point that some of them work top lane because bruisers have been nerfed so much.
Nerfed:
Frozen Heart
Randuins (like 8 times make that 9 including the one on PBE atm)
Frozen Mallet (Can't have people sticking to adc's you know)
Various bruisers and assassin's that had the power to remove them from a fight instantly.
Removed:
Olaf (Oh shit this guy can't be CC'd when he charges me????? pls nerf)
Urgot (Before his nerf there was no ADC in the game that could win bot against him. His late game was a bit ridiculous back then though.)
I'd also like to point out that when something bot lane becomes a problem it's almost always a support that gets gutted, while an adc gets some minor tweak unless your name is sivir and urgot. It's got to the point that some of them work top lane because bruisers have been nerfed so much.
So I played my first promotion match
And after that I got promoted after only winning one match lol.
And after that I got promoted after only winning one match lol.
300% damage to minions, but NOT monsters.Nofool wrote:
this skill got something like 0,4 ap ratio/0,1 ad ratio, and "the number of shots scales with his AS"...omg
300% damage to minions, see you nash o/, see you anyone i guess ,_,
maal
omggggggggggggggggggVulf wrote:
You do know this game has pretty much been "balanced" around ADC's right? Anything that was in the game that straight up hard countered them got nerfed or was removed from the game.
Nerfed:
Frozen Heart
Randuins (like 8 times make that 9 including the one on PBE atm)
Frozen Mallet (Can't have people sticking to adc's you know)
Various bruisers and assassin's that had the power to remove them from a fight instantly.
Removed:
Olaf (Oh shit this guy can't be CC'd when he charges me????? pls nerf)
Urgot (Before his nerf there was no ADC in the game that could win bot against him. His late game was a bit ridiculous back then though.)
I'd also like to point out that when something bot lane becomes a problem it's almost always a support that gets gutted, while an adc gets some minor tweak unless your name is sivir and urgot. It's got to the point that some of them work top lane because bruisers have been nerfed so much.
i tught it was balncd onnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn suprots!!!!!1!!111!!!1
That meta has already happened, and it was brutally nerfed like a month later lol.
RIP:
1.2 AP Nidalee heals
1.1 AP Taric heals
1.0 AP Soraka heals
RIP:
1.2 AP Nidalee heals
1.1 AP Taric heals
1.0 AP Soraka heals
you forgot the release vayne nerf
otherwise I agree with your sentiments.
otherwise I agree with your sentiments.
It was pretty much a summarisation of this thread on the LoL forums. http://na.leagueoflegends.com/board/sho ... ?t=3551106Kanye West wrote:
you forgot the release vayne nerf
otherwise I agree with your sentiments.
I really hope some serious changes happen in season 4, because i don't think i can take a 3rd season of this stagnant meta. At least season 2 was still kinda interesting till the very end. Season 3 has been boring since the start. Competitive play is predictable and awful to watch. I find more enjoyment out of watching my bronze 5 friends play ranked, because of how random it is.
Macacito wrote:
how about proxy singed
Death count gold was adjusted this patch.
I started playing LoL in S3, it wasn't always like this?
Nope XDBlaziken wrote:
I started playing LoL in S3, it wasn't always like this?
matched with entire teams of gold 3 to gold 5 in my silver 4 promos, wtf
eh, at least skipped and got promoted to silver 2 so it was worth
oh and also, season 1 had the best meta and changes
I really miss the days of two bans per team in ranked and true global ults
eh, at least skipped and got promoted to silver 2 so it was worth
oh and also, season 1 had the best meta and changes
I really miss the days of two bans per team in ranked and true global ults
I miss the first tf ult's range ;_; what happened maal ?
The "first TF's" ult was actually a 70% global slow and vision reveal. His gold card was an AoE stun and his E was a 20-second CD global teleport.
What on earth..Kanye West wrote:
The "first TF's" ult was actually a 70% global slow and vision reveal. His gold card was an AoE stun and his E was a 20-second CD global teleport.
Sounds ridiculously OPKanye West wrote:
The "first TF's" ult was actually a 70% global slow and vision reveal. His gold card was an AoE stun and his E was a 20-second CD global teleport.
I wanna try it.
It really was... Mostly because you never knew what you would go up against or what your team would really be composed of. Back then the meta wasn't really enforced hard like it is today. Lanes were completely random at one point. Bot and top was a random 2v2 mix of everything and ADC's and Junglers weren't mandatory at all really (until AD's started going mid). The 0 cs support role wasn't really a thing yet because stuff like Taric and Sion roamed (oh god roam sion D:). There was still a meta but it wasn't really enforced.
what a nice patch
was looking grim until after lane phase, then I got a quadra to end it =3=!
I'm almost in bronze 1. Then it's only one more division until silver. I dunno if i'm really a bronze player cause i've been shooting up, but i'd rather work my way up anyways. Also looking for serious ranked players to contact me, i'm always down to play some normals, discuss meta, etc.
My summoner name is "Dani Orz"
Just a heads up... there's currently a major bug that a lot of people have been abusing to avoid losses, here's a video showcasing the bug so I'm not going to explain it here. It's basically a drop-hack within the client so DO NOT attempt this because you'll likely get banned. I recommend avoiding ranked until Riot fixes this because there's a huge chance that somebody uses the bug and denies a win from you, especially in low ELO ranked where people are so desperate to climb.
Private video :<
Is it the Tiamat bug
Is it the Tiamat bug
Yep. I guess the guy took down the video.those wrote:
Private video :<
Is it the Tiamat bug
And if no one knows what that bug is, here's a video of it since it came to my attention today as well 
http://www.twitch.tv/n3ac3y/c/2557733
http://www.twitch.tv/n3ac3y/c/2557733
taric garen and taric sion were the most op lanes, heck I even saw a taric brand, and ashe and corki were the best midlanersVulf wrote:
It really was... Mostly because you never knew what you would go up against or what your team would really be composed of. Back then the meta wasn't really enforced hard like it is today. Lanes were completely random at one point. Bot and top was a random 2v2 mix of everything and ADC's and Junglers weren't mandatory at all really (until AD's started going mid). The 0 cs support role wasn't really a thing yet because stuff like Taric and Sion roamed (oh god roam sion D:). There was still a meta but it wasn't really enforced.
also I remember streamers trying crazy stuff and winning in high elo, like rain man going 3 heart of gold roaming vlad or alistar blitzcrank double jungle, good stuff
Shyvana's new E has no cap on monsters. Have fun soloing baron and dragon faster than Nunu.
what a time to be alive
= ="
Ah my time to shine has begun!
Played a LeBlanc against Zed and completely wrecked that piece of shit shadow. So satisfying to land mimic'd Q after ult gets to level 2.
Also the amount of jumps is pretty fantastic.
I still feel that the first level of ult is a lackluster.
Played a LeBlanc against Zed and completely wrecked that piece of shit shadow. So satisfying to land mimic'd Q after ult gets to level 2.
Also the amount of jumps is pretty fantastic.
I still feel that the first level of ult is a lackluster.
Them TSM picks
What Meta
edit : support annie wat
edit : support annie wat
We actually spomped the fuck out of that lane somehow, new lb is possible a new adc ahri kinda thing?
Makes fun as poopHakeru wrote:
What Meta
edit : support annie wat
It was a good idea but they executed it poorly, gave away 4 kills early, fell behind in farm, dragons and gold, and had a weaker lategame anyway so no possible way to come back.
Kill lanes are actually quite good against adc/support lanes, but are countered by Cait (long range, escape) and Janna (disengage). They also get shut down by ganks and counterganks, which is why they don't see much play in competitive play because coordinated teams know how to deal with it.
Kill lanes are actually quite good against adc/support lanes, but are countered by Cait (long range, escape) and Janna (disengage). They also get shut down by ganks and counterganks, which is why they don't see much play in competitive play because coordinated teams know how to deal with it.
The new Leblanc is trash now. The changes were a straight up nerf to that champion for the most part. They severely nerfed her early game to slightly buffed her late game (barely a buff).Igenatius wrote:
Ah my time to shine has begun!
Played a LeBlanc against Zed and completely wrecked that piece of shit shadow. So satisfying to land mimic'd Q after ult gets to level 2.
Also the amount of jumps is pretty fantastic.
I still feel that the first level of ult is a lackluster.
The whole point of leblanc was her early game and they took that away so she is just awful now.
I've played a lot of Leblancs that could pretty much one-shot champions... I've never faced any champion that could kill 'that' quickly so the nerf was probably in place for a reason...Vulf wrote:
The new Leblanc is trash now. The changes were a straight up nerf to that champion for the most part. They severely nerfed her early game to slightly buffed her late game (barely a buff).
The whole point of leblanc was her early game and they took that away so she is just awful now.
That is the whole point of leblanc (burst mages in general). After she uses her entire combo she is completely useless for a few seconds.Justykanna wrote:
I've played a lot of Leblancs that could pretty much one-shot champions... I've never faced any champion that could kill 'that' quickly so the nerf was probably in place for a reason...Vulf wrote:
The new Leblanc is trash now. The changes were a straight up nerf to that champion for the most part. They severely nerfed her early game to slightly buffed her late game (barely a buff).
The whole point of leblanc was her early game and they took that away so she is just awful now.
Edit: Leblanc had one of THE lowest win rates and she was rarely picked. It makes literally no sense to nerf her. Zed, Kha, Rengar (if ahead) can burst harder than she can mid-late game. She just did it early game extremely well. She falls off late because she is single target. They labeled this as a buff when it definitely isn't a buff. That's the problem.
The only part of it that I would consider a "buff" was the zero mana cost of the ult at all ranks. Mimic not scaling based on mimic'd ability level was just a complete nerf.
^this ratio win/lose o_o wp
Support annie was played last week in OGN, and used before in brand/annie kill lanes. It didn't seem to work well in the OGN game, though they still won, but not due great annie plays/stuns.
And the 56% winrate is nice, but not completely amazing, and should be doable with her/his plat 1 skills
(i got 59% in normals as gold V, so i guess she/he stills wins games very easily)
And the 56% winrate is nice, but not completely amazing, and should be doable with her/his plat 1 skills
(i got 59% in normals as gold V, so i guess she/he stills wins games very easily)C9 vs. VUL was the most exciting match I've seen this year. Holy shit that was amazing.
PROTECT THE TEEMO
I've been duo q'ing with a friend and so far we're on a win streak of 11 games.
Also one more win and I'm promoted to silver I
Also one more win and I'm promoted to silver I
Wow, that's quite the streak. =ODevalix wrote:
I've been duo q'ing with a friend and so far we're on a win streak of 11 games.
Also one more win and I'm promoted to silver I
I love how Singed was calling his team out when he went 1/12/0...
I recently went from Gold 3 to Gold 1. I skipped a division. 
I hope I can get to platinum. My name is KvdV96 and I play on euw for people that want to add me. I play really often with friends though.
I hope I can get to platinum. My name is KvdV96 and I play on euw for people that want to add me. I play really often with friends though.proxy singedJustykanna wrote:
Wow, that's quite the streak. =ODevalix wrote:
I've been duo q'ing with a friend and so far we're on a win streak of 11 games.
Also one more win and I'm promoted to silver I
I love how Singed was calling his team out when he went 1/12/0...
I love it when a champion I have no intention of buying goes free....
What's proxy Singed? Aside from dying several times. o_otyrael6192 wrote:
proxy singed