Very surprised to see the HotD song in there! If only I had the time to map lately... The rules describe exactly the type of maps I always make, three diffs. with no special types for Taiko or CtB or Mania. Plus, the one song I recognize is nice and short. Shame the timing isn't up to snuff right now. That furthers makes me think I shouldn't try to join this. xD But good luck to the other participants! Can't wait to see what these judges consider as good maps... Heh! No pressure. B)
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Don't worry. Mapsets which aren't fitting in criteria will be ignored.
:) 
Good Luck On Editing Beatmap Who Participate
Anyway, I think this contest is a great opportunity for many people who haven't tried mapping 1/3-songs yet.
Well, now doing something actually useful:
I agree with TGOC's complaint on Sonic Generations. The song is a bit repetitive and really doesn't work for a contest (unless you're trying to see who makes a less boring map out of that song, which... imo, isn't a good idea).
I also seriously don't like that 3rd song as it has an EXTREMELY repetitive beat, forcing people to map to the vocals, thus excluding any variation you could get.
Also, anecdotes from randoms in #modhelp effectively saying "wow that's odd" doesn't prove that the timing is incorrect. Moreso, if you actually knew what you were talking about, you would probably realize that it would also be incredibly unlikely for the tempo to be altered in this manner by an encoding error as you suggested.
First option isn't really an example of "you can variate" because it's the same song looped 4 times.
But I'm not complaining anymore.
i want a detective conan skin ... i cannot make skin
2. Only osu! standard. ( Don't bother for the playability in the other modalities )
Extra + something between Normal and Hard + Easy(EASY, though it's tough to map it in some of those songs XD), is a good spread for all abilities
Mainly because I never able to map without background (imagine playing/mapping with solid, boring blue background) I can say backgrounds represent the visual for the song you played/mapped.
There's a big lack of difficulties that way, if you would do that.
Correct me if I'm wrong but I'm guessing "mapper's will" is what was meant.
*mapper
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Ahh~
Good luck to all ^^
Good luck to all ^^
quiz-chan_DELETED
Good luck to you all beatmapping participants out there! Ganbatte(Do your best)!
sadly, no interest in mapping these songs, so i'll pass. but good luck to all who enter
Quiz-chan wrote:
Damn, this is so cool, but why even participate now. There'll be half a billion mapsets to these songs in just a few days, so it's not use starting now. =_=
Don't worry. Mapsets which aren't fitting in criteria will be ignored.
Good Luck On Editing Beatmap Who Participate Good luck for everyone who enter. 
Interesting o3o waaaah
Let's give it a try
Good luck to everyone! :3
Good luck to everyone! :3
2 min anime map + 2 long non-anime maps
inb4 100+ entries for anime and 2 entries for the others
entering for Infected Mushroom one, btw
inb4 100+ entries for anime and 2 entries for the others
entering for Infected Mushroom one, btw
Isn't the Sonic track a bit long? It's awfully repetitious as well. All of these songs almost make me want to have a shot at this, but I'll probably become unhealthily stressed. Really not sure if I want that.
Oh no
My slot :<
My slot :<
If team members aren't judges, can they participate?
Yes
Everone if free to partecipate, if they don't judge.
SWEET
Why do I get the feeling that despite Fuss Fuzz's default snap divisor being 1/3 we'll get some entrants shoving 1/4 streams in there anyways? >_>
not the best choice for videogame song 
This would reduce the work for the judgesEkaru wrote:
Why do I get the feeling that despite Fuss Fuzz's default snap divisor being 1/3 we'll get some entrants shoving 1/4 streams in there anyways? >_>
Anyway, I think this contest is a great opportunity for many people who haven't tried mapping 1/3-songs yet.
Song 2 is sooooooo good.
Let's see what good works we'll get.
Let's see what good works we'll get.
Do these need to be hitsounded? (question for ztrot / Loctav)
I'm Joining as the Newbie Beatmapper of the Contest... I'll do my first serious Standard Beatmap for this... Good luck to all!!~
I'm impressed!
I already lost with that...Charles445 wrote:
SWEET
Topic Starter
yesCharles445 wrote:
Do these need to be hitsounded? (question for ztrot / Loctav)
I guess I'll try it this time
Concerns From the Community and Me
As you can see, even the judges agree with this.
"Rooftop Run" is the longest song in this whole collection we have to choose from and its the most repetitive.
It should be cut like all the other songs.
Link to Full Song here.
In the editor the song was timed as "144.993" BPM. How lazy can you get. This song is created by a computer. It's 145 bpm but it seems like whoever retrieved this song was too lazy to get a correct encoded version.
Artists don't just put decimal bpm. Especially 3 places out.
Maddy agrees.
Maddy agrees again.
I expect this to be changed. (And that shitty fade out.)
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So in all honesty:
Based on the posts of this thread and the people I have spoken to. All of them have agreed. Out of the judges I spoke to. All agreed. that's 2/4 judges though. Couldn't contact the rest. Maddy a well known mapper and an amazing one at the also agrees. D33d an avid modder and speaker in #modhelp agrees.
It feels like this competition was made just to be difficult to the mappers and stressful. "See who can make the better shit."
Please take this all into consideration. Goodbye. Thanks to all for the support.
Rooftop Run is from a game called Sonic Generations. Now as most of you know Sonic uses songs that are meant to be a tad bit repetitive so they can repeat sections and have it still work. This does not work when in a mapping competition for a song. Repetitiveness is something that isn't liked by every mapper. So it would be a very biased vote. It's already a known fact that anyone who does "Rooftop Run" will not win this competition.ztrot wrote:
Song 1: Rooftop Run (Classic)
Download and enter here!
Artist: Tomoya Ohtani
Source: Sonic Generations
Length: 4:38, 152 BPM*
Theme: Videogame (Instrumental)
Youtube Preview
As you can see, even the judges agree with this.
"Rooftop Run" is the longest song in this whole collection we have to choose from and its the most repetitive.
It should be cut like all the other songs.
"Pink Nightmares", is a song by Infected Mushrrom and when listening to the full song and this cut version, you will realize that whoever shortened this clip, cut out the least mappable and worst parts of the song.ztrot wrote:
Song 2: Pink Nightmares
Download and enter here!
Artist: Infected Mushroom
Source:
Length: 3:20, 144.99 BPM*
Theme: Electronic (English)
Youtube Preview (Contest mp3 is shortened)
Link to Full Song here.
In the editor the song was timed as "144.993" BPM. How lazy can you get. This song is created by a computer. It's 145 bpm but it seems like whoever retrieved this song was too lazy to get a correct encoded version.
Artists don't just put decimal bpm. Especially 3 places out.
Maddy agrees.
Maddy agrees again.
I expect this to be changed. (And that shitty fade out.)
"Fuss Fuzz" is also a very repetitive song but the vocals save it. Have fun mapping on vocals for a 2 minute anime song that was apparently shortened. Pick a better song. It was timed wrong originally too. This has been brought up.ztrot wrote:
Song 3: Fuss Fuzz
Download and enter here!
Artist: Kurosaki Maon
Source: Highschool of The Dead
Length: 2:00, 190 BPM*
Theme: Anime (Japanese)
Youtube Preview (Contest mp3 is shortened)[/list]
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So in all honesty:
Based on the posts of this thread and the people I have spoken to. All of them have agreed. Out of the judges I spoke to. All agreed. that's 2/4 judges though. Couldn't contact the rest. Maddy a well known mapper and an amazing one at the also agrees. D33d an avid modder and speaker in #modhelp agrees.
It feels like this competition was made just to be difficult to the mappers and stressful. "See who can make the better shit."
Please take this all into consideration. Goodbye. Thanks to all for the support.
Its all Maddys fault
On topic though some suggestions:
Nice having three categories, but what about a vote with 5 songs from each category to let the community decide what to map?
With all the drama about timing, what about letting the mappers time the songs? Feels like an "Elite Mapper" should at least be able to time the song. Unless you pick some Roze-level track.
On topic though some suggestions:
Nice having three categories, but what about a vote with 5 songs from each category to let the community decide what to map?
With all the drama about timing, what about letting the mappers time the songs? Feels like an "Elite Mapper" should at least be able to time the song. Unless you pick some Roze-level track.
I haven't thought about all the stuff that got mentioned, but as I see it I can pretty much agree. I first started to map the Infected Mushroom song, but I stopped it pretty early already because it would even take me too much time to map the part as it's hard too map.
Wow, you didnt even start mapping and you already complain. What a mess.
I did start...Loctav wrote:
Wow, you didnt even start mapping and you already complain. What a mess.
Hey, I already finished a diff on Pink Nightmares :<
Eitherhow, yeah the BPM looks a bit weird and the Sonic song may be cut because of the repetativeness (if there's a good point to do that) but w/e, 2ct right here o:
Eitherhow, yeah the BPM looks a bit weird and the Sonic song may be cut because of the repetativeness (if there's a good point to do that) but w/e, 2ct right here o:
Aside from Rooftop Run having too many loops I love these picks to death.
And BTW, people who map Rooftop Run will only be competing against other Rooftop Run maps.
And BTW, people who map Rooftop Run will only be competing against other Rooftop Run maps.
Wow, you barely read his complaint and is already saying unnecessary things that don't add to the thread. What a mess.Loctav wrote:
Wow, you didnt even start mapping and you already complain. What a mess.
Well, now doing something actually useful:
I agree with TGOC's complaint on Sonic Generations. The song is a bit repetitive and really doesn't work for a contest (unless you're trying to see who makes a less boring map out of that song, which... imo, isn't a good idea).
I also seriously don't like that 3rd song as it has an EXTREMELY repetitive beat, forcing people to map to the vocals, thus excluding any variation you could get.
Yeah but if you actually listen to it or play it you can tell that 145 BPM isn't proper. It's theoretical versus reality.TheGrimOfCrazy wrote:
In the editor the song was timed as "144.993" BPM. How lazy can you get. This song is created by a computer. It's 145 bpm but it seems like whoever retrieved this song was too lazy to get a correct encoded version.
Artists don't just put decimal bpm. Especially 3 places out.
There is a video version of Pink Nightmare, which the length is 4:15
This will not require any cuts and the fade out issue
This will not require any cuts and the fade out issue
I'll try my luck at Rooftop Run. I like the track and it isn't as repetitive as everyone's saying, just involves more creativity It's pretty much the "Marathon" category of this contest, as it's going to be hard to get 3 diffs done by the deadline.
It's pretty much the "Marathon" category of this contest, as it's going to be hard to get 3 diffs done by the deadline.Disregarding the song itself (I haven't actually checked it), you're wrong about this at least. It isn't that uncommon for electronic music to use BPMs like 120.5, not to mention that any DAW worth its salt will have access to fine tempo adjustment to at least three decimal places to be used at the artist's discretion. It does happen and can't really be considered an error.TheGrimOfCrazy wrote:
Artists don't just put decimal bpm. Especially 3 places out.
Also, anecdotes from randoms in #modhelp effectively saying "wow that's odd" doesn't prove that the timing is incorrect. Moreso, if you actually knew what you were talking about, you would probably realize that it would also be incredibly unlikely for the tempo to be altered in this manner by an encoding error as you suggested.
ztrot, you're using Rooftop Run (Classic) and it's not the Slam Jam version? Shoot, I already have 3.25 maps of that track done
I'd like to join, but these songs just... meh. Well, I'll be waiting for the next contest. Good luck to all mappers!
Didn't spot this when reading that post, but this is correct. IIRC even the Pokemon devs sometimes use some really... weird... timings.Jarby wrote:
Disregarding the song itself (I haven't actually checked it), you're wrong about this at least. It isn't that uncommon for electronic music to use BPMs like 120.5, not to mention that any DAW worth its salt will have access to fine tempo adjustment to at least three decimal places to be used at the artist's discretion. It does happen and can't really be considered an error.TheGrimOfCrazy wrote:
Artists don't just put decimal bpm. Especially 3 places out.
Also, anecdotes from randoms in #modhelp effectively saying "wow that's odd" doesn't prove that the timing is incorrect. Moreso, if you actually knew what you were talking about, you would probably realize that it would also be incredibly unlikely for the tempo to be altered in this manner by an encoding error as you suggested.
OMG! I just fell in love with Pink Nightmares!
One part of me says "enter that contest and map Pink Nightmares" and the rest no... :l
One part of me says "enter that contest and map Pink Nightmares" and the rest no... :l
tieff wrote:
I'd like to join, but these songs just... meh. Well, I'll be waiting for the next contest. Good luck to all mappers!
bmin11 wrote:
tieff wrote:
I'd like to join, but these songs just... meh. Well, I'll be waiting for the next contest. Good luck to all mappers!
[insert something here along the lines of "a good mapper should have the ability to map any song blah blah"]
A good mapper should have the ability to map any song, but why should he map something he don't like and won't enjoy mapping?
Then don't join ? I don't see the problem here. This is a free contest, which means anyone's free to enter - or not to enter. I have the feeling you're just here to complain about the songs. A bit more detailed feedback about what's wrong with these songs apart from personal taste would be welcome.
It was just a comment about the songs. Why feel offended like that?
By the way, the songs need a bit more variation. Most of them are really repetitive and are just the same beat over and over.
By the way, the songs need a bit more variation. Most of them are really repetitive and are just the same beat over and over.
Blue Dragon wrote:
By the way, the songs need a bit more variation. Most of them are really repetitive and are just the same beat over and over.
I have the latter feeling.Blue Dragon wrote:
unless you're trying to see who makes a less boring map out of that song
I have double-checked timing and while it is not what I would have used, is amply accurate (within 3ms throughout the song).
can anyone make a Osu Detective Conan Skin ?
wrong thread Fendi22, plus i don't think many people take skin requests
Quoting the obviously.Frostmourne wrote:
Blue Dragon wrote:
By the way, the songs need a bit more variation. Most of them are really repetitive and are just the same beat over and over.I have the latter feeling.Blue Dragon wrote:
unless you're trying to see who makes a less boring map out of that song
Beat is not the only element of a song you can map.Blue Dragon wrote:
It was just a comment about the songs. Why feel offended like that?
By the way, the songs need a bit more variation. Most of them are really repetitive and are just the same beat over and over.
You can see and example for the 1st option.
Yep, like in the third song, where everyone will map to the vocals because the beat is extremely repetitive. What's the point on that?_tear wrote:
Beat is not the only element of a song you can map.Blue Dragon wrote:
It was just a comment about the songs. Why feel offended like that?
By the way, the songs need a bit more variation. Most of them are really repetitive and are just the same beat over and over.
First option isn't really an example of "you can variate" because it's the same song looped 4 times.
But I'm not complaining anymore.
The first one is actually looped 2 times. Surely if it's possible to map crossing field 6 times, it should be no problem to map this just twice?
deadbeat wrote:
wrong thread Fendi22, plus i don't think many people take skin requests
i want a detective conan skin ... i cannot make skin
Why couldn't they use this version? It's a bit longer but has the good parts of the song. Is cut better. It ends well.bmin11 wrote:
There is a video version of Pink Nightmare, which the length is 4:15
This will not require any cuts and the fade out issue
Hey guys, I've finished the Hard Diff of Pink Nightmares, but it feels really awkward...
I think would be cool if we could use the Original or the Video cut...
Pleaseee!!
I think would be cool if we could use the Original or the Video cut...
Pleaseee!!
well good luck for everyone who try to participate (iwant to enter but im a 10 yr old kid)
Good luck to all <3
I think I should try this
On fuss fuzz, add a red timing point at 00:00:386 so people can use green inherited points in the start. (You can do it in all the diffs)
I got a question. 
1.Can each song have more than 3 difficulties?
2.Does 3 difficulty must have osu standard mode and then the other difficulties can have different game modes?(Catch the Beat, Taiko or osu mania)
If each question is answered, THANK U!
1.Can each song have more than 3 difficulties?
2.Does 3 difficulty must have osu standard mode and then the other difficulties can have different game modes?(Catch the Beat, Taiko or osu mania)
If each question is answered, THANK U!
1. You can Submit max 3 difficulties per songAwesomez53 wrote:
I got a question.
1.Can each song have more than 3 difficulties?
2.Does 3 difficulty must have osu standard mode and then the other difficulties can have different game modes?(Catch the Beat, Taiko or osu mania)
If each question is answered, THANK U!
2. Only osu! standard. ( Don't bother for the playability in the other modalities )
Please be aware that you shall not name your difficulties different than "Easy/Normal/Hard/Insane" to keep the judgement unbiased and anonymous.
Also be aware that this contest has three brackets tho it has three 1st places.
There won't be a winner among all songs . All songs can be considered as separated in judgement and therefore in prizing.
Also be aware that this contest has three brackets tho it has three 1st places.
There won't be a winner among all songs . All songs can be considered as separated in judgement and therefore in prizing.
This should probably go into OP, it's a pretty important thing
Is there another name for super difficult insane diffs? Like for those with a EHX spread.
We usually call it Extra/Expert because of the X
It would be better to not map an Extra though, since there can be only 3 difficulties.
Highest difficulty is suggested to be Insane or Hard, but not Extra.
Highest difficulty is suggested to be Insane or Hard, but not Extra.
There's a few widely used naming conventions
Easy Normal Hard Insane Extra
Beginner Normal Hyper Another Extra
Easy Normal Hard Insane Extra
Beginner Normal Hyper Another Extra
Extreme..?
Actually, one of the most important thing is the spread:Andrea wrote:
It would be better to not map an Extra though, since there can be only 3 difficulties.
Highest difficulty is suggested to be Insane or Hard, but not Extra.
Extra + something between Normal and Hard + Easy(EASY, though it's tough to map it in some of those songs XD), is a good spread for all abilities
Anoky_old
Somehow I agree.Anoky wrote:
Rule #5 directly contradicts rule #1. Having a background is part of the ranking criteria.
Mainly because I never able to map without background (imagine playing/mapping with solid, boring blue background) I can say backgrounds represent the visual for the song you played/mapped.
That spread would be terrible, you know that, right?HakuNoKaemi wrote:
Actually, one of the most important thing is the spread:Andrea wrote:
It would be better to not map an Extra though, since there can be only 3 difficulties.
Highest difficulty is suggested to be Insane or Hard, but not Extra.
Extra + something between Normal and Hard + Easy(EASY, though it's tough to map it in some of those songs XD), is a good spread for all abilities
There's a big lack of difficulties that way, if you would do that.
just wanna remind:
the difficulty of a map is NOT depend on mapping's willing.
the difficulty of a map is NOT depend on mapping's willing.
I don't understand that, sorry.Scorpiour wrote:
just wanna remind:
the difficulty of a map is NOT depend on mapping's willing.
Seconded,Loctav wrote:
I don't understand that, sorry.Scorpiour wrote:
just wanna remind:
the difficulty of a map is NOT depend on mapping's willing.
Correct me if I'm wrong but I'm guessing "mapper's will" is what was meant.
sorry wrong typingLoctav wrote:
I don't understand that, sorry.Scorpiour wrote:
just wanna remind:
the difficulty of a map is NOT depend on mapping's willing.
*mapper
Topic Starter
and will be changed after the contest.Anoky wrote:
Rule #5 directly contradicts rule #1. Having a background is part of the ranking criteria.
Ugh I'm so late on this. I'll try my best anyhow!
NOOOO! no custom hitsounds? D: I had the perfect setup for pink nightmares...
Also, how about making a huge mapset for the participants after the contest? It would be quite a waste to let the maps go unnoticed or having to rank them separately.
NOOOO! no custom hitsounds? D: I had the perfect setup for pink nightmares...
Also, how about making a huge mapset for the participants after the contest?
It would be quite a waste to let the maps go unnoticed or having to rank them separately.good luck guys ^^
That huge mapset idea is pretty great For the first 2 or 3 places in each song, or all maps judges find good enough for rank.
For the first 2 or 3 places in each song, or all maps judges find good enough for rank.i tried to submit and it says "You have not submitted all the required files" .-.
i submitted 3 diffs
i submitted 3 diffs
Good Luck For The Participants =w=
=w=그래 개삘이다 해볼까 ?/