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Sakura
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i fricken LOL'd

now in all seriousness, if anything Irre's response sounded mad to me, I wasn't mad at all with 3 votes on me, It did ping my scumdar when 3 people suddenly voted me without giving a reason (and one of them being OMGUS) my reaction was mostly meant that i'm FoSing all 3, with the vote I already had on Irreversible.

There's a few people that haven't posted much yet and we are almost 1/3rd of the 1st day in, and I don't really like the fact that i got so many FoSs yet almost no one that i'm certain is scum.

1) Would be nice Mr Color posted a bit more other than a post with no contet.
2) ReVeNG3R posted a RVS vote, a saying that no one got, and hm?, seems kind of odd.
3) Raging Bull hasn't posted much yet, but i won't FoS him until we've been at least 24 hours into Day 1, since it could be due to timezones.

^
I'd really like to see more content from those 3
tiper
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BRBP wrote:

tiper wrote:

So, I'm going to unvote Sakura
Well....?

tiper wrote:

if we get a better scum-nomination
Sakura
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Irreversible wrote:

for now*

orz sorry for these double posts -_-
Don't apologize for double posting, this is a mafia game, so it's expected, next time instead type "EBWOP/EBWODP" when you want to edit something, the acronyms mean "Edit by way of posting / Edit by way of double posting" pretty much mean that you're correcting something in your post.
VoidnOwO
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:)
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Sakura
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Well since if i sit and do nothing the scum arent going to magically appear out of nowhere, imma ask a question to tiper and Konei.

@Konei: Why did you suddenly jump on me when i just did a pressure vote on Irreversible to get a better answer? Don't tell me it was reaction testing, considering you were the first vote, I kinda doubt that, as there was no B/W forming yet, and you suddenly jumped when you saw Irreversible in "danger".
@tiper: Why did you jump on my b/w when Irreversible's vote was obviously an OMGUS vote?
fartownik
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Unvote
Vote: Konei
Your vote on Sakura along with tiper was scummy enough. Your explanation of it doesn't matter at all in this case.
Konei
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Sakura wrote:

Well since if i sit and do nothing the scum arent going to magically appear out of nowhere, imma ask a question to tiper and Konei.

@Konei: Why did you suddenly jump on me when i just did a pressure vote on Irreversible to get a better answer? Don't tell me it was reaction testing, considering you were the first vote, I kinda doubt that, as there was no B/W forming yet, and you suddenly jumped when you saw Irreversible in "danger"
Nope, it wasn't a matter of saving Irreversible out of a danger since I have no idea if he's scum or not.
I just assumed you were having something in mind, so I decided to take a look on your reaction if you are voted.
Also I don't have many targets to vote at the moment, so I thought it'd be not a lose to vote you considering that I have still time to think about my vote.
Lincolm
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Irreversible wrote:

@Lincolm: Why do you think they are town (fandwerik and those)? Just wondering.
I like you know. (By the way, I think Hika is town also)

Those used same thing when he was scum in previous game. If he is scum again, I don't think he will do the same thing. I don't think he is stupid enough to do that.
Hika tried to make a discussion before, but it is completely risky if I take a look at his post. I don't think scum will make risky post like that.
Fartownik tried to generate discussion with starting serious vote in Those wagon. His bravery in bandwagoning probably come from town rather than scum.

DakeDekaane wrote:

Yeah, that made me retract of Hika being with those almost at all, I think we can't get any solid base before the day ends.
Okay, why you keep think Hika and Those are scum together? What do you think about Me and BRBP's interaction? And Irreversible and Sakura's interaction?

BRBP wrote:

Are we supposed to use the character names or do something with them, the ones we chose or were given before the game started.
No, it isn't. You can keep your hero by yourself. I was made for this... Literally.

tiper wrote:

I think, she's on the town side, but I'm not assured
Why you think she is on the town side?

=

Irreversible probably town also.
Irreversible
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Okay then..

@Lincolm, why do you only make some conjectures? I mean of course it's pretty logic that you want to know who is where, but still. Also: Why do you always write 'they are townies'? Why don't you write.. they are scum, the evil ones etc.? This lets me think about that you're a townie as well.

@Sakura, the way you act is a bit strange for me, it seems like you want to let the others think you're a townie, but you're not one at all. What do you think about this?
Sakura
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Konei wrote:

Sakura wrote:

Well since if i sit and do nothing the scum arent going to magically appear out of nowhere, imma ask a question to tiper and Konei.

@Konei: Why did you suddenly jump on me when i just did a pressure vote on Irreversible to get a better answer? Don't tell me it was reaction testing, considering you were the first vote, I kinda doubt that, as there was no B/W forming yet, and you suddenly jumped when you saw Irreversible in "danger"
Nope, it wasn't a matter of saving Irreversible out of a danger since I have no idea if he's scum or not.
I just assumed you were having something in mind, so I decided to take a look on your reaction if you are voted.
Also I don't have many targets to vote at the moment, so I thought it'd be not a lose to vote you considering that I have still time to think about my vote.
It's not about losing a vote on me, it's why you put it there in the first place, I'm really not buying your reaction argument, considering that you just voted me without giving a reason, the timing of it seemed odd too. I had something in mind you said hm? of course i had something in mind, i was thinking that Irre's reason was vague, so I wanted to get a better answer out of him, which is why i applied pressure with a vote. You on the other hand, didn't say anything and just voted, Why did people sheep you? Were you prepared to get sheeped by voting for no reason rather than questioned?

My FoS on you and tiper is increasing more and more.
Sakura
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Irreversible wrote:

@Sakura, the way you act is a bit strange for me, it seems like you want to let the others think you're a townie, but you're not one at all. What do you think about this?
I'm acting towny, ergo I am scum?

What is the reasoning of that question? the only thing i can think of it is you throwing WIFOM.

What part of me is making you feel like "i want others to think i'm towny", what makes you think i'm not a towny?
Konei
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Sakura wrote:

It's not about losing a vote on me, it's why you put it there in the first place, I'm really not buying your reaction argument, considering that you just voted me without giving a reason, the timing of it seemed odd too. I had something in mind you said hm? of course i had something in mind, i was thinking that Irre's reason was vague, so I wanted to get a better answer out of him, which is why i applied pressure with a vote. You on the other hand, didn't say anything and just voted, Why did people sheep you? Were you prepared to get sheeped by voting for no reason rather than questioned?

My FoS on you and tiper is increasing more and more.
My point of voting you was to push you and trying to take you
out of guard for a bit to prove if you are scum or not, and well, I can say nothing for sure at the moment so I'm just leaving my vote
on you for the moment being.
VoidnOwO
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Sakura
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So you reaction test me, get nothing out of it, so you decide to leave the vote on me, instead of scumhunt.

Ok, this attitude has been noted then.
Konei
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Sakura wrote:

So you reaction test me, get nothing out of it, so you decide to leave the vote on me, instead of scumhunt.

Ok, this attitude has been noted then.
Actually you do have a point here Sakura.

Unvote: Sakura

I'll just revoke my vote for the moment and wait for some guys to post.
Irreversible
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Sakura wrote:

Irreversible wrote:

@Sakura, the way you act is a bit strange for me, it seems like you want to let the others think you're a townie, but you're not one at all. What do you think about this?
I'm acting towny, ergo I am scum?

What is the reasoning of that question? the only thing i can think of it is you throwing WIFOM.

What part of me is making you feel like "i want others to think i'm towny", what makes you think i'm not a towny?
No, that's not what I said, it's just that you want to let the others think that you're a townie, what kinda lets me think about you're something else. The part is following: You are asking really weird things, and sometimes they are really taken from nowhere, somehow, got me? Of course this can be wrong, that's just how I feel. The reason is not WIFOM (is this Whine in front of me? i don't really know these shortcuts yet, sorry), it's more that i want to figure out that i want to know what you really are.
fartownik
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Irreversible wrote:

Okay then..

@Lincolm, why do you only make some conjectures? I mean of course it's pretty logic that you want to know who is where, but still. Also: Why do you always write 'they are townies'? Why don't you write.. they are scum, the evil ones etc.? This lets me think about that you're a townie as well.
It's called PoE (process of elimination), a common action used to lower the probability of people being scum. Also I can't really say if Lincolm is town yet. It's obvious he'd play the game this way even if he was scum, can't really say by the R1. Also if BRBP and Lincolm were scum together that little fight would be a magnificent way to pull away the further suspicions :p But that's just another WIFOM.
Lincolm
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Irreversible wrote:

@Lincolm, why do you only make some conjectures? I mean of course it's pretty logic that you want to know who is where, but still. Also: Why do you always write 'they are townies'? Why don't you write.. they are scum, the evil ones etc.? This lets me think about that you're a townie as well.
You mean, conjectures = WIFOM? My read basically from WIFOM + Occam's Razor. There are 11 towns in here and 3 mafias (Hey, I know my own role). It is more easier to seek towns rather than mafias. Towns are honest and mafias are contrived, it is more easier to take a look the honest. Also, make a group of towns (if we trust each others actually) could make a pressure to mafias.

Don't judge someone like this. This is basically come from someone play, and this is how I play. Probably good move for me to do this if I was scum, because I can protecting and buddying with my mafias friend.

Also, Fartownik is right.

=

By the way, late midnight here. Will take a look that those many preview edit later, except Fartownik's.
Sakura
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BRBP wrote:

Isn't it frustrating, Sakura? When you have to repeat yourself a million times before they understand :o

@Konei, you can't really "test" anyone with a 1/8 vote on RVS, lol. That's just a bad excuse.

I don't think all three of them are scum, that'd be the worst scumplay I've ever seen.

I'll leave my vote on Irre and go to sleep.
I agree that'd be pretty bad scumplay, so let's review.

1) I vote Irre in hopes of getting a better answer.
2) Konei votes me without giving a reason to "reaction test".
3) Irre OMGUS's me rather than question Konei's sudden vote on me.
4) tiper joins the B/W, now this has more chances of being an actual reaction test, since i already had a B/W on me.

Conclusion, I can prob. see Irre and Konei being scum but not together. If they were scum together there's no way both of them would have jumped on me at the same time, Irre didn't question Konei, but considering he's new he prob. was just focused on me and didn't realize Konei's vote on me existed.

Actually... nvm there's higher chance of Konei being scum than Irre.

Vote: Konei
Sakura
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Oh wow, so many new posts while i was typing my last one, imma read them ASAP.
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Sakura wrote:

@tiper: Why did you jump on my b/w when Irreversible's vote was obviously an OMGUS vote?
For now all that I'm doing, I'm doing to get more information about players. Nothing more.

Lincolm wrote:

Why you think she is on the town side?
Because of gut feeling her explanations. But I aint assumed, as I said.
And what do you think?
Sakura
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Well i don't mind that, i just mind the fact that the 2 votes on me were more scummy in nature than mine, but ok to each their own, since everyone has their playstyle.

@Irre: So you're saying that only scum want to look towny and towny doesnt want to look towny? sounds counter-productive to me, unless you're an anti-town player.

As for the WIFOM:

She's not towny, she's a scum trying to look towny, she's a towny trying to look like a scum trying to look towny, she's a scum trying to look towny by looking like a scum trying to look towny, etc...

See where that gets us?.

I can't think of any possible reason why a player be it town or scum wouldn't want to look towny, can you?
Irreversible
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I'm sorry for my weird argumentations so far, i thought there are 3 teams, omg XD

i'm going to read the other posts soon, and ask some more questions.

so far: unvote: sakura because i messed the things up

EBWOP: I have to make Unvote: Sakura bold
Sakura
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Irreversible wrote:

I'm sorry for my weird argumentations so far, i thought there are 3 teams, omg XD

i'm going to read the other posts soon, and ask some more questions.

so far: unvote: sakura because i messed the things up

EBWOP: I have to make Unvote: Sakura bold
Just dont edit your post, put that in your next post...
fartownik
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Ok, questions from me now.
@Irre: What do you think about Konei and tiper bandwagoning after you? (also please, when you Vote/Unvote, do it always in bold)

Starting to think that both tiper and Konei are scum. Reason: absoletely no communication between them in the thread, while they do the exact same thing. They're mafia daychatting and also newbies, forgetting that they must keep the show also in the thread.

My read for now, my vote still on Konei.
ReVeNg3r
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Sakura, please stop being so confusing.If you are townie. If others think you are townie, why do you want to persuade them that no.Or at least i get this from your posts.
Btw, interesting reading as an "outsider" how everyone suspects everyone ,lol .
tiper
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@fartownik: I just have nothing to ask Konei.
Finally:
Unvote: Sakura
Vote: Konei

Because his unvote looks like he's protecting himself from being FoSing by others.
I'm going to sleep, see you tommorow.
fartownik
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@Mod: vote count please
Irreversible
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Why is everybody behind konei now? o.o'' don't really get that, only because sakura voted him first ? (as far as i remember)
fartownik
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I voted Konei first. Just read through our previous posts, the explanations are there.
Sakura
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Irreversible wrote:

Why is everybody behind konei now? o.o'' don't really get that, only because sakura voted him first ? (as far as i remember)
If you keep count farto voted him first, he provided his reason and I provided mine.

@farto: thoughts on tiper's vote for Konei? do you think he's busing? do you think he's town?
fartownik
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Sakura wrote:

@farto: thoughts on tiper's vote for Konei? do you think he's busing? do you think he's town?
If he doesn't cancel his vote at the end of the day and Konei turns scum then he's probably town.

('probably' because it's still R1, nothing is sure)
fartownik
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Btw. I like this game so far. 13 pages of posts and not even half a D1 has passed. This is good.
Kanye West
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VOTE COUNT:

Konei (4) - Nyquill, fartownik, Sakura, tiper
those (2) - Tsukass, DakeDekaane
Tsukasa (2) - Hika, Raging Bull
DakeDekaane (1) - Lincolm
Nyquill (1) - ReVeNg3r
No Lynch (1) - those
Irreversible (1) - BRBP
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Nyquill
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fartownik wrote:

I voted Konei first. Just read through our previous posts, the explanations are there.
...I thought I did?
those
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Irreversible wrote:

Why is everybody behind konei now?
Maybe cuz Sakura caught the guy "Oh, I don't know if it's you, but I'll leave my vote on you for now so if you get lynched it will be like an innocent kill" with p/2305512
Then Konei immediately unvoted cuz "oh no I got caught".
Maybe.

Unvote: No Lynch
fartownik
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Nyquill wrote:

fartownik wrote:

I voted Konei first. Just read through our previous posts, the explanations are there.
...I thought I did?
Oh, you're right. That no votecount.
Irreversible
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@fartownik: Dunno what I should think about, maybe they want to get sure that they are a townie, who knows.

This is pretty messed up right now, dunno who deserved my vote right now
fartownik
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Irreversible wrote:

@fartownik: Dunno what I should think about, maybe they want to get sure that they are a townie, who knows.

This is pretty messed up right now, dunno who deserved my vote right now
You can always no-lynch if you're not sure, analyze the ISOs to get more information, random vote or just sheep to someone.
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How much time left to vote?
tiper
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Irreversible wrote:

How much time left to vote?
Smth around 52h
Irreversible
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lol.. that's more than enough :c
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Lincolm wrote:

DakeDekaane wrote:

Yeah, that made me retract of Hika being with those almost at all, I think we can't get any solid base before the day ends.
Okay, why you keep think Hika and Those are scum together? What do you think about Me and BRBP's interaction? And Irreversible and Sakura's interaction?
I don't think Hika and those are scum together, but there's a posibility of that being true, maybe it was a true misunderstanding from my part, dunno. But I'm a bit curious how you say Hika is most probably town, what made you think that? I can remember Hika said he(she) wanted to make D1 a little more interesting, why?

About you and BRBP, I can see it as BRBP get annoyed due many questions and thoughts maybe? But BRBP "defending but not defending" those, maybe he's something with those or want to draw attention to him? Don't know really.

Irre and Sakura looks to me like two towns trying to blame the another for silly reasons: "you vote me, then i vote you", why towns? Irre said this is his first game so it may be possible that when Sakura voted him due to his RV and provided no reasons, and Irre voted Sakura was more like newbie panic, implying neither is scum, Sakura is likely town after receiving that bandwagon.
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Irreversible wrote:

lol.. that's more than enough :c
To help you a bit in this thread you can find the ISO archives where you can look at everyone's posts on an specific game on ISO (Isolation)

Well guess we can't do much except wait until Konei's reply. In the meantime guess i'll ask some questions.

@DakeDekane: What are your opinions on the 3 people that wagoned me outta nowhere?
@Irreversible: So now what are you gonna do? are you just gonna sit there and do nothing?
@those: So you give "maybe" reasons on Koney, you vote no one, and still take no step towards scumhunting, are you gonna just stand there and do nothing?
@ReVeNg3r: So you say you're an "outsider" when you're a player of the game? What makes you say that? Why aren't you providing any content?
@Mr Color & Raging Bull: Are you guys ever gonna post some content?
Irreversible
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@Sakura: I think i'm going to ask some questions now.

@Tsukasa: You 'obviously' voted those. Why?
@Raging Bull: Is there a reason why you voted for Tsukasa? Did you vote for him because he voted those? Tell us *O*
@Sakura: What do you think about Dake and Konei right now? Because it seems like you're not trusting them.
@Konei: What do you say to the comment from those: 'Oh no I got caught'?
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Irreversible wrote:

@Sakura: What do you think about Dake and Konei right now? Because it seems like you're not trusting them.
Dake: Null atm, don't see much from him in the terms of scumhunting tho I do see him at least reading the thread, Tho after reading his ISO i got another question for him.

Konei: Scum for the reasons I mentioned before.

@Dake: What makes you still keep your vote on those? he already removed his No-Lynch vote, and other than him not having much content I don't see much of a reason to keep the vote on him. If you still see him as scum would you care to try to sell us your case or reasonings?. Not gonna lie tho, I do have my FoS on him, but it's not stronger than my other FoSs and due to his lack of content he's null with a slight scum lean at best for me.
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I'm not sure if Tsukasa changed his vote while I was gone but since I'm on my phone, I won't look on that.

DakeDekaane wrote:

Was Tsukasa trying to lead the wagon on those? Why.
It is quite possible that the only reason that some people voted those in general could be because he was clearly scum in Mafia Restoration Project, but others need to realize that even if it's possible to be scum once again, it's possibly unlikely but we will see how the game progresses. I think if we accelerate day by hammering in, it'll get better than this but you all have managed to make this game interesting with the analyzation of misunderstandings, as I've seen after reading the last few pages.

My vote stays on Tsukasa because I have no leads and I feel that Sakura could be townie challenging everyone suspecting her.
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Sakura wrote:

@Mr Color & Raging Bull: Are you guys ever gonna post some content?
NEVER!

Yeah sorry for taking the game a bit lightly up to this point, had real life and shit kick in and I wasn't exactly available all the time plus I kinda forgot about the whole thing so yeah pizzabutt

seeing as I'm kind of a noob in the game, I don't really know what to think of all the previous discussion that has occured prior to this post, and thus don't really have a reason to vote against anyone yet -- I don't really want to go from gut feeling either.

And since I've been so active until now I'll take a break for a few hours; gotta sleep. Hopefully I don't wake up to 87 and a half votes against me.
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Hi

Irreversible wrote:

@Raging Bull: Is there a reason why you voted for Tsukasa? Did you vote for him because he voted those? Tell us *O*
RVS

And I cannot follow the those/BRBP conversation, I am so lost with that.

For the bandwagon on Sakura, it's rather suspicious gameplay. Why would all 3 vote at the same time.

Apparently Konei voted for Sakura to get a reaction, but I do not know why. He did not post anything prior and just vote Sakura. I also felt like he would have just kept his vote on Sakura if she did not say how he did not get any reaction out of her.

And then Irre just votes on Sakura probably because of OMGUS or newbie players. But I don't always believe people saying they are new. Not everyone has the same reaction. I don't vote back because that just makes me feel more scummy. Also wouldn't you do OMGUS because you don't know the person? And it seems obvious why you justify your vote, everyone was doing it.

tiper (since he doesnt want it as Tiper haha) I'm not too sure. He did not really post anything that stands out to me.

Unvote
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@Mr Color: I hope you don't do this, only to avoid some discussions and stuff, otherwise this would be very predictable now.

Another question to Sakura: Why do you try to be that agressive? I mean yeah, you want to get away the scum.. but this is so confusing to me, I'm still behind my theorie that you want to camouflage that you're scum yourself. @~@ My FoS is still on you. And no, this is not only because you voted me once.
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Btw, I'm sleeping now, so maybe you shouldn't ask me 3000 questions, maybe you won't get an answer. o/
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Well, when I first checked the thread it was basically nothing but RVS (and when I first replied I was actually at school lol) so I didn't think there'd be much of a discussion going on, but what do you know, it happened. You're probably gonna hear more from me later on.
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Ahh I'll give it another read about brbp/those.
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Irreversible wrote:

@Mr Color: I hope you don't do this, only to avoid some discussions and stuff, otherwise this would be very predictable now.

Another question to Sakura: Why do you try to be that agressive? I mean yeah, you want to get away the scum.. but this is so confusing to me, I'm still behind my theorie that you want to camouflage that you're scum yourself. @~@ My FoS is still on you. And no, this is not only because you voted me once.
Because you can act pro-town as scum so people won't suspect you.
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suspect you as much*
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So apparently BRBP/those discussion dropped because of Lincolm and BRBP.


tiper wrote:

@fartownik: I just have nothing to ask Konei.
Finally:
Unvote: Sakura
Vote: Konei

Because his unvote looks like he's protecting himself from being FoSing by others.
I'm going to sleep, see you tommorow.
Also I found it funny how you just vote for Konei after farto mention how you guys probably have day chat but forgot to talk to each other in the thread and now you vote to keep suspicion away from yourself. I don't think his unvote was protecting himself, but just from a bad choice by voting Sakura.
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Well then let's take a look back, when did Irreversible start FoSing me?

When i asked him about his "evil things" for his vote on those, he replied with a vague answer so I voted him to get a better answer, that's what got him his FoS on me, I already mentioned my reasons why, yet he thinks I'm trying to camouflage myself because I'm scum appearing Town, yet he's not voting me, yet he's not voting anyone.

He seems to like Tunneling on me, and he's going to hit a big steel wall on that tunnel if he keeps this up, or probably get lynched himself in the end.

Being aggresive is a playstyle not a town/scum tell, I like being aggresive because i find scum slips more often that way.

@Irreversible: I've seen you keep asking questions, nice work, now would be nice if you gave us some reads on what your questions have gotten you. If you have any scum reads, why aren't you voting any of them? from your previous post it seems like you want to say I'm scum, yet don't dare to vote me, with no further leads why aren't you voting your one and only suspect?
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Sakura wrote:

@DakeDekane: What are your opinions on the 3 people that wagoned me outta nowhere?
I already said my opinion about Irre, it's a bit hard to tell about Konei and tiper, because both voted with no reason at all, but Konei changed and gave a cheap reason of the why and then changed again as there was no basis on that vote, very suspicious for me if you ask, that and somehow starting the bandwagon against you. And about tiper dunno what to say, he just voted and answered some questions, nothing outstanding in my opinion.

Sakura wrote:

@Dake: What makes you still keep your vote on those? he already removed his No-Lynch vote, and other than him not having much content I don't see much of a reason to keep the vote on him. If you still see him as scum would you care to try to sell us your case or reasonings?. Not gonna lie tho, I do have my FoS on him, but it's not stronger than my other FoSs and due to his lack of content he's null with a slight scum lean at best for me.
Why am I keeping my vote on those, you're curious, aren't you? I could change my vote for Konei, as he already is suspicious enough, but I really want to gather more info from our missing people (it looks like two of them appeared finally) here before making my final decision, don't want that sudden 3 votes following bandwagon for Konei . those is still suspicious though, giving away Konei based on his last post? Who knows. But he's already in a lower level, but unvoting no lynch means nothing if he still can join the leading bandwagon, that's why I keep my vote on those.

Now some things I'd like to know:
@those: Why did you removed your vote for no lynching but voting nobody?
@Mr Color and Raging Bull: What is your opinion about Konei?
@Nyquill: Where are you?
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"Apparently Konei voted for Sakura to get a reaction, but I do not know why. He did not post anything prior and just vote Sakura. I also felt like he would have just kept his vote on Sakura if she did not say how he did not get any reaction out of her."

Rather suspicious. He didn't post much and then jumps on Sakura. Last post was him waiting for some guys to post.


@Konei who did you want to post and what answers do you want?
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why do i have to be the only one who lives on the other side of the world.
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Not only that, but Nyquill posted another time when there was an active discussion over the bandwagon on Sakura rather than stating he voted Konei first. If he's rather silent this game, I would say he might be scum.

@Nyquill what are your thoughts on Sakura bandwagon?

I won't be voting yet since Nyquill could be asleep sucks for me to sleep when everyone is on. Although I would probably got for Nyquill or Konei.
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Irreversible wrote:

@Konei: What do you say to the comment from those: 'Oh no I got caught'?
I don't have that feeling at all.
I can understand that I got a bunch of votes now.

Raging Bull wrote:

@Konei who did you want to post and what answers do you want?
I pretty much wanted to see if anyone but me jumps on Sakura if I did and well,
Irreversible and tiper did so. Considering that Irre doesn't really seems like scum to me with all his
questions on Sakura why she'd act like a townie, I think that tiper is pretty suspicious. So I'll vote him for the moment.

Vote: tiper
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Yea, sorry fixed da quotes.

Also my reason to unvote Sakura at the moment was that I realized it was senseless
keeping my vote on her when it's just useless; and I realized this after her post, so I just did there.
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So you're voting tiper for the exact same reasons we vote you? :f Except you jumped with the vote first. This seems even more fishy for me right now. You say you wanted to check if someone else will bandwagon Sakura after you, why? What assumption could've been made after something like this in such an early stage? I don't really get it.

This really seems like a nervous way to pull away the suspicions from yourself. I really want you lynched now, sir.
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^ the post was meant to be adressed to Konei

Also the mutual voting of tiper & Konei... if they were both NEWBIE scum, there's a possibilty they would come with an idea of sacrificing one scum to get the 2nd into better position in the future. By sacrificing I mean not fighting to save Konei as he already has the majority of the votes. This'd give tiper a safe position since he obviously voted Konei.

BUT THIS IS JUST WIFOM, HEH.
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No, I'm voting tiper because I had no real reasons on voting Sakura,
and he just went with it. Since I didn't really see any reason in voting Sakura I assumed this step
as suspicious but this actually seems to turned against me, hehe.
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Also, I have a question.

@tiper: why did you decide to vote Sakura after me and Irreversible did? Having you just writing "just wanted to see her reaction" ( t/132424/start=135 ) is a bit strange. Could you possibly explain this more, since now I'm guessing you just wanted to take Sakura out because 2 of us were on her.
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BRBP wrote:

They don't even have to be newbies to come up with this. Even though it's not really a good idea, it's sometimes better to just let go and accept that someone got caught. Trying too hard to save that one guy could lead to the other two being caught and lynched aswell.
I meant they could come up with this in R1 as newbies. An experienced team would try to persuade others not to vote a potential scum in the first day.
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fandwerik wrote:

BRBP wrote:

They don't even have to be newbies to come up with this. Even though it's not really a good idea, it's sometimes better to just let go and accept that someone got caught. Trying too hard to save that one guy could lead to the other two being caught and lynched aswell.
I meant they could come up with this in R1 as newbies. An experienced team would try to persuade others not to vote a potential scum.
I know what you meant I just wanted to add that an experienced team would probably find someone else (or make someone else) more suspicious instead of taking the chance of getting caught themselves while protecting the suspected scum.
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Sakura wrote:

@ReVeNg3r: So you say you're an "outsider" when you're a player of the game? What makes you say that? Why aren't you providing any content?
Simply, if i don't post ,i won't evoke suspicions against me,don't you think so?Also i'm still not so talkative person , but i think BRBP talks way too much,haha.
So i think i know who is next who will get my vote after D1,even though i think he is townie. Now you can guess why i do this . 8-)
Furthermore, when mod is assigning roles i think he would not put a newbie into mafia, because this would probably give them disadvantage, unless he wants make it a bit more interesting,funny or whatever, but then again there would be only 2 who know what they do.and i am sure there is always at least 1 experienced player, and given that we have here some we can choose one of them, but here are also ones that just want to look like they know what they do.
^This all is just lol, i hope you get it. :D
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I would love to believe roles are randomized amongst players to avoid any bias.
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those wrote:

I would love to believe roles are randomized amongst players to avoid any bias.

mod wrote:

I'll randomly assign you one
I just don't know how exactly he does it. ;)
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ReVeNg3r wrote:

Simply, if i don't post ,i won't evoke suspicions against me,don't you think so?Also i'm still not so talkative person , but i think BRBP talks way too much,haha.
So i think i know who is next who will get my vote after D1,even though i think he is townie. Now you can guess why i do this . 8-)
What. You are going to vote someone who you think is town? Not exactly helpful
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BRBP wrote:

I don't believe your threory about assigning more experienced players to mafia to balance the game.
If all members would be newbie,then what this game would be about...Just believe me,i bet at least one of those "rednamed" is mafia ;) .
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I SAID VOTE REVENGER, BUT YOU WERE LIKE "NO, NO, NO"

NOW EAT THIS
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nice edit
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fartownik wrote:

I SAID VOTE REVENGER, BUT YOU WERE LIKE "NO, NO, NO"

NOW EAT THIS
lol,thx

BRBP wrote:

Okay. My guess is that you have no clue what you're doing here.
True. 8-)

BRBP wrote:

Are you saying that all BATs are automatically pro?

ReVeNg3r wrote:

at least one of those "rednamed" is mafia ;) .
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BRBP wrote:

Even if your role is to get lynched, that's not how you do it.
Maybe he's Karthus or Kog'Maw. Or Zyra.
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those wrote:

BRBP wrote:

Even if your role is to get lynched, that's not how you do it.
Maybe he's Karthus or Kog'Maw. Or Zyra.
Nice guess.
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I say he's Jester. I call it
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Raging Bull wrote:

ReVeNg3r wrote:

Simply, if i don't post ,i won't evoke suspicions against me,don't you think so?Also i'm still not so talkative person , but i think BRBP talks way too much,haha.
So i think i know who is next who will get my vote after D1,even though i think he is townie. Now you can guess why i do this . 8-)
What. You are going to vote someone who you think is town? Not exactly helpful

Also can you pleeeassee answer why the hell would you vote someone you think is townie.
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@ReVeNg3r: ARE YOU SCUM?!
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Raging Bull wrote:

Also can you pleeeassee answer why the hell would you vote someone you think is townie.
Dunno.


fartownik wrote:

@ReVeNg3r: ARE YOU SCUM?!
What do you mean?
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We could end this day in first 8 posts. WE COULD.
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Ok, i am too much highlighted, going back where i came from.
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Vote:ReVeNg3r

I don't know about jester role, but he really doesn't seem helpful at all. Gave him a question and he says dunno. Apparently now he will go back to where he came from, probably means not going to look at thread anymore.
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Well, in this case.

Unvote.
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