You say that, when i gave my reasons for FoSing, yet you are voting me just for the fact that I'm voting you, which is essentially an OMGUS vote. And you still haven't answered my question in full, so you're avoiding my question, I can think of plenty of reasons why scum would act the way you do. And the other 2 are either scum or just bandwagoners looking to put on pressure on me.
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Let me clear this one.BRBP wrote:
I need to ask something aswell. Are my posts hard to understand because of my english, or is it only Linc who doesn't understand anything I say? :v
I did understand and I already explained all of it. You don't like me because you think I'm skimming. This is false, but no way I can prove it. You think I ask same question that already explained, but no, it is not. I ask it to deeper. I see everyone point of view before asking.
The main problem, you don't have any read in Those, but there is possibility Those is scum in your point of view, but you want people to remove vote in Those. In my point of view, it looks like a defend without read or more likely white-knighting.
I don't ask anything about voting someone bla bla bla, but you brought it, so I asked about it. I asked about Dake's, not this. You said you don't want people to vote in Nyquill because his inactivity in previous game.
Is this clear enough for you?
If I'm the one who false, please explain again your post.
Okay, why the hell should i give an OMGUS vote on you, stop being paranoic. I don't even know you, never talked to you as well, I'm not that type of person. I don't have to justify me at all, I can vote who I want, when I want.Sakura wrote:
You say that, when i gave my reasons for FoSing, yet you are voting me just for the fact that I'm voting you, which is essentially an OMGUS vote. And you still haven't answered my question in full, so you're avoiding my question, I can think of plenty of reasons why scum would act the way you do. And the other 2 are either scum or just bandwagoners looking to put on pressure on me.
Wanna tell me why you feel that offended? Of course you want to save your life, but the way you act right now is just a bit silly, don't you think so?
The reason why I voted you is because you actually wanted it.
Sorry for double post
Sorry for double post
Now who's being paranoic.
Don't mind the double post it will prob. happen since you can't edit posts in a mafia game.
I asked you a question because your answer seemed to me like you're avoiding the question, which btw, you still haven't answered.
What does the fact that you don't know me change anything?
It seems to me you're quick to point fingers, yet you don't want to scumhunt here.
Now to answer your questions.
1) I'm not offended, what makes you think I am?.
2) I don't think so, who's more silly, the one giving vague reasons for their votes, or the one actually asking questions to discern scum from the town?
Don't mind the double post it will prob. happen since you can't edit posts in a mafia game.
I asked you a question because your answer seemed to me like you're avoiding the question, which btw, you still haven't answered.
What does the fact that you don't know me change anything?
It seems to me you're quick to point fingers, yet you don't want to scumhunt here.
Now to answer your questions.
1) I'm not offended, what makes you think I am?.
2) I don't think so, who's more silly, the one giving vague reasons for their votes, or the one actually asking questions to discern scum from the town?
What question? Ask it again, i really don't get it.
I think you seem offended because you kinda want to justify yourself really badly.
Secondly, i really don't see why i have to justify myself for my votes, of course you can ask why and stuff. .
I never asked you for this big explanation as well.
I think you seem offended because you kinda want to justify yourself really badly.
Secondly, i really don't see why i have to justify myself for my votes, of course you can ask why and stuff. .
I never asked you for this big explanation as well.
Excuse me, but i did ask why were you voting on those, your reasoning is kinda weak you know.
Well how should i explain 'I feel something evil there?'
There is no explanation. Next time I'll think about my votings more, didn't want that to turn out that badly, orz
There is no explanation. Next time I'll think about my votings more, didn't want that to turn out that badly, orz
ISO No.3
ISO No. 5
ISO No. 6
ISO No. 7
Vague votes, Vague reasons, OMGUS retaliation, Ignores the question about the reasoning of his votes. And yes i do expect people to justify their votes.
Ergo: This guy is scum.
That's quite a vague reasoning, so I asked you what you meant with "Evil stuff"Irreversible wrote:
Vote: Those
I can definetly feel some evil stuff there D:
ISO No. 5
You retaliate with another vague answer, I vote you to motivate you into giving a more legit answer.Irreversible wrote:
It's in my senses, whoosh
ISO No. 6
You now say im the real "evil-ish thing" because I'm voting you, showing signs of retaliation, so basically i'm your top scum read, yet you don't vote me for who knows what reason, I make up possible reasons and.Irreversible wrote:
Well, I think you're kind of defending those then, what's behind it? It seems like you're planning something, obviously you seem to be the real evil-ish thingSakura wrote:
Because that's totally not scummy at all! I'll keep my FoS on those, but right now i think I want something better than "It's in my senses" from you.
vote: IrreversibleLet's see how it envolves.
ISO No. 7
OMGUS vote, no real reason given other than "I wanted it" So if a cop claims and tells you to hammer him would you do it? You vote someone because they tell you to vote them? show some real reasons at least, and now this BS, if i tell you to vote someone would you do it?Irreversible wrote:
fine then :3
Unvote: those
Vote: Sakura
you wanted it
Vague votes, Vague reasons, OMGUS retaliation, Ignores the question about the reasoning of his votes. And yes i do expect people to justify their votes.
Ergo: This guy is scum.
Alright, that was a nap.
@Lincolm: I voted those because I know he likes to cause ruckus and then go away for some time, leaving people only with assumptions without answers. This is exactly what happens right now and I don't like this. Also the no-lynch from him for me was like: "okay, bring it on". Also as I said, in D1 everyone is scum for everyone, I voted the most voted person to wagon, but also with having something on him in mind. It doesn't really matter now already since I will probably change my vote.
@Konei, @tiper
Why are you voting Sakura directly? These were extremely fishy votes in my eyes, especially Konei just stepping in with Votes with no explanation.
Irreversible looks for me like a townie newbie playing, unless the scum team contains of only newbie players. The vote on Sakura was an OMGUS.
But Sakura should've seen it too, and not vote him directly imo.
I'd still vote Revenger R1 since he clearly doesn't know what is going on here and it would make the smallest harm if he turned town (no offence, really). Also explaining my 1st vote here.
@Lincolm: I voted those because I know he likes to cause ruckus and then go away for some time, leaving people only with assumptions without answers. This is exactly what happens right now and I don't like this. Also the no-lynch from him for me was like: "okay, bring it on". Also as I said, in D1 everyone is scum for everyone, I voted the most voted person to wagon, but also with having something on him in mind. It doesn't really matter now already since I will probably change my vote.
@Konei, @tiper
Why are you voting Sakura directly? These were extremely fishy votes in my eyes, especially Konei just stepping in with Votes with no explanation.
Irreversible looks for me like a townie newbie playing, unless the scum team contains of only newbie players. The vote on Sakura was an OMGUS.
But Sakura should've seen it too, and not vote him directly imo.
I'd still vote Revenger R1 since he clearly doesn't know what is going on here and it would make the smallest harm if he turned town (no offence, really). Also explaining my 1st vote here.
tiper
Relax guys xD
I just voted Sakura for her kinda acting strange to me, also I wanted to
see her reaction if she was voted, so I did what I did.
I just voted Sakura for her kinda acting strange to me, also I wanted to
see her reaction if she was voted, so I did what I did.
fartownik: You may be right, but if he's a towny playing he should learn that these kind of actions will lead him to be thought as of scum, and I'm not going to take my chances on someone just because they "might" be newb town.
If he's town, he needs to start playing like a town, and then I'll read him as town.
If he's town, he needs to start playing like a town, and then I'll read him as town.
Then why are you doing this? Why bandwagoning Sakura so suddenly?tiper wrote:
Oh look, i found all 3 scum already, awesome!Lol, Sakura, you're so paranoic. Don't you really think we'd do smth like this
<Konei> Vote: Sakura
<Irreversible> Vote: Sakura
<tiper> Vote: Sakura
in the case we're scums?
Sorry, but this is just awesome, why do you kick out yourself? Please, why the hell are you defending yourself that much. You don't have any real arguments, only because I wrote these stuff it means exactly nothing. As I said, i can vote who and when I want, and yes, it seems like you defending those, and you're still going on. For whatever reason, how you like to say. Actually, this self-justifing by yourself is also a bit weird, don't you think so?
Let me ask you something, why did you vote me at the begin? Only because I feel something evil? Hell, that's a real good reason.
I think there is something behind you, dunno what yet, but my vote is definetly reasonable now. Thank you for that~
Let me ask you something, why did you vote me at the begin? Only because I feel something evil? Hell, that's a real good reason.
I think there is something behind you, dunno what yet, but my vote is definetly reasonable now. Thank you for that~
I already explained it
Are you even reading?Sakura wrote:
I vote you to motivate you into giving a more legit answer.
stop being mad only because i missed this ._.
This is how this game works, Irreversible. You can't vote someone putting in no reason and not get suspicions on yourself. If you explain EVERY of your vote, you have a higher chance to not get voted. If your logic is too deep simply wait with your vote instead of throwing it on random people without reason because you might make harm to yourself by doing it. Just as you done a while ago. I still think you're newbie town, but some people might think differently and vote you, just like Sakura did.Irreversible wrote:
Sorry, but this is just awesome, why do you kick out yourself? Please, why the hell are you defending yourself that much. You don't have any real arguments, only because I wrote these stuff it means exactly nothing. As I said, i can vote who and when I want, and yes, it seems like you defending those, and you're still going on. For whatever reason, how you like to say. Actually, this self-justifing by yourself is also a bit weird, don't you think so?
Let me ask you something, why did you vote me at the begin? Only because I feel something evil? Hell, that's a real good reason.
I think there is something behind you, dunno what yet, but my vote is definetly reasonable now. Thank you for that~
Just learnt that, in future i'll think about my votes a bit more
And yes, it's my first game ( ._.)
And yes, it's my first game ( ._.)
I think Those is town right now, I don't think he will leave assumption like that.fartownik wrote:
@Lincolm: I voted those because I know he likes to cause ruckus and then go away for some time, leaving people only with assumptions without answers. This is exactly what happens right now and I don't like this. Also the no-lynch from him for me was like: "okay, bring it on". Also as I said, in D1 everyone is scum for everyone, I voted the most voted person to wagon, but also with having something on him in mind. It doesn't really matter now already since I will probably change my vote.
Fartownik probably town by the way.
I'm still thinking you're white-knighting Those.BRBP wrote:
I give up on Lincolm for today, we clearly can't understand each other.
God why you all are posting like a mad god dammit.
@Konei & Tiper : What kind of reaction do you get?
@Sakura : What do you think about Irreversible right now?
@Irreversible : What do you think about Sakura right now?
It was obvious her reaction would be that you're scum. Both you and Konei gave the same answers to this question, okay. You might be newbie, but you don't seem stupid. Doing the exact thing that scum wouldn't do is also a good play for scum.tiper wrote:
@fartownik: just wanted to see her reaction.
White knight arrives on the white horse and saves the Princess. Sounds familiar?BRBP wrote:
It's funny how all three of you "decided to see her action" in the same time. Also you came up with the same excuse of voting for her
I forgot to comment on this:I feel the same way about Irreversible too, except that his mouth could cause the other new players do something as stupid as hammering those right now :/fartownik wrote:
I'd still vote Revenger R1 since he clearly doesn't know what is going on here and it would make the smallest harm if he turned town (no offence, really). Also explaining my 1st vote here.
I think he's a newbie, but I don't know if he's a newbie town or a newbie scum. That's why I'm voting for him, I don't have any better ideas at the moment.
I'm not familiar with the term white-knighting. I can guess of course, but I'd rather not comment about it before I'm sure.
Hasn't changed much, if he's town he needs to prove to me with his actions that he's town, i'm not going to give leniance to someone who's new, because there's also the chance that it's a scum trying to excuse his actions, and i don't like taking those chances.Lincolm wrote:
@Sakura : What do you think about Irreversible right now?
Ergo: I want to see him scumhunting as well, before i put him in my town pile.
Well, actually i have changed my mind a little bit, not sure if she's one of the evil ones, after i read all this stuff.Lincolm wrote:
@Irreversible : What do you think about Sakura right now?
@Lincolm: Why do you think they are town (fandwerik and those)? Just wondering.
Well, she got mad and I don't know how to think about this.Lincolm wrote:
@Konei & Tiper : What kind of reaction do you get?
Anyway, I'll leave my vote on her due to her getting mad about this so much made her suspicious.
Maybe not properly defending, but still may throw some connection.Lincolm wrote:
@Dake : Where Hika defend Those?
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What do you think about Hika's explanation in here?[/quote]
Yeah, that made me retract of Hika being with those almost at all, I think we can't get any solid base before the day ends.
And you bandwagoned Sakura pretty fast (~o.o)~ it's pretty obvious 1 of those 3 is scum, but I'm not changing my vote until there's something clear for me.
You are posting pretty fast ;_;
@Mod: Vote count request.
Irreversible wrote:
fandwerik
Irreversible wrote:
fandwerik
Irreversible wrote:
fandwerik
GG Irre.
inb4 fartownik votes Irre.
:__: Don't be mad, take this umbrella, ella ella eh, fartownik :3
tiper
please, do not capitalize "t" in my nicknameLincolm wrote:
@Konei & Tiper : What kind of reaction do you get?
I think, she's on the town side, but I'm not assured. So, I'm going to unvote Sakura if we get a better scum-nomination
As well as it's a good play for a townie, lol.fartownik wrote:
Doing the exact thing that scum wouldn't do is also a good play for scum.
I'm a bit split up about this, I mean as I said, i'm not 100% sure anymore if she's evil, but still.. I mean she could only act this way to defend her life, i'm waiting for more comments for now, but leaving the vote on sakuratiper wrote:
I think, she's on the town side, but I'm not assured. So, I'm going to unvote Sakura if we get a better scum-nomination
for now*
orz sorry for these double posts -_-
orz sorry for these double posts -_-
i fricken LOL'd
now in all seriousness, if anything Irre's response sounded mad to me, I wasn't mad at all with 3 votes on me, It did ping my scumdar when 3 people suddenly voted me without giving a reason (and one of them being OMGUS) my reaction was mostly meant that i'm FoSing all 3, with the vote I already had on Irreversible.
There's a few people that haven't posted much yet and we are almost 1/3rd of the 1st day in, and I don't really like the fact that i got so many FoSs yet almost no one that i'm certain is scum.
1) Would be nice Mr Color posted a bit more other than a post with no contet.
2) ReVeNG3R posted a RVS vote, a saying that no one got, and hm?, seems kind of odd.
3) Raging Bull hasn't posted much yet, but i won't FoS him until we've been at least 24 hours into Day 1, since it could be due to timezones.
^
I'd really like to see more content from those 3
now in all seriousness, if anything Irre's response sounded mad to me, I wasn't mad at all with 3 votes on me, It did ping my scumdar when 3 people suddenly voted me without giving a reason (and one of them being OMGUS) my reaction was mostly meant that i'm FoSing all 3, with the vote I already had on Irreversible.
There's a few people that haven't posted much yet and we are almost 1/3rd of the 1st day in, and I don't really like the fact that i got so many FoSs yet almost no one that i'm certain is scum.
1) Would be nice Mr Color posted a bit more other than a post with no contet.
2) ReVeNG3R posted a RVS vote, a saying that no one got, and hm?, seems kind of odd.
3) Raging Bull hasn't posted much yet, but i won't FoS him until we've been at least 24 hours into Day 1, since it could be due to timezones.
^
I'd really like to see more content from those 3
tiper
Don't apologize for double posting, this is a mafia game, so it's expected, next time instead type "EBWOP/EBWODP" when you want to edit something, the acronyms mean "Edit by way of posting / Edit by way of double posting" pretty much mean that you're correcting something in your post.Irreversible wrote:
for now*
orz sorry for these double posts -_-
Well since if i sit and do nothing the scum arent going to magically appear out of nowhere, imma ask a question to tiper and Konei.
@Konei: Why did you suddenly jump on me when i just did a pressure vote on Irreversible to get a better answer? Don't tell me it was reaction testing, considering you were the first vote, I kinda doubt that, as there was no B/W forming yet, and you suddenly jumped when you saw Irreversible in "danger".
@tiper: Why did you jump on my b/w when Irreversible's vote was obviously an OMGUS vote?
@Konei: Why did you suddenly jump on me when i just did a pressure vote on Irreversible to get a better answer? Don't tell me it was reaction testing, considering you were the first vote, I kinda doubt that, as there was no B/W forming yet, and you suddenly jumped when you saw Irreversible in "danger".
@tiper: Why did you jump on my b/w when Irreversible's vote was obviously an OMGUS vote?
Unvote
Vote: Konei
Your vote on Sakura along with tiper was scummy enough. Your explanation of it doesn't matter at all in this case.
Vote: Konei
Your vote on Sakura along with tiper was scummy enough. Your explanation of it doesn't matter at all in this case.
Nope, it wasn't a matter of saving Irreversible out of a danger since I have no idea if he's scum or not.Sakura wrote:
Well since if i sit and do nothing the scum arent going to magically appear out of nowhere, imma ask a question to tiper and Konei.
@Konei: Why did you suddenly jump on me when i just did a pressure vote on Irreversible to get a better answer? Don't tell me it was reaction testing, considering you were the first vote, I kinda doubt that, as there was no B/W forming yet, and you suddenly jumped when you saw Irreversible in "danger"
I just assumed you were having something in mind, so I decided to take a look on your reaction if you are voted.
Also I don't have many targets to vote at the moment, so I thought it'd be not a lose to vote you considering that I have still time to think about my vote.
I like you know. (By the way, I think Hika is town also)Irreversible wrote:
@Lincolm: Why do you think they are town (fandwerik and those)? Just wondering.
Those used same thing when he was scum in previous game. If he is scum again, I don't think he will do the same thing. I don't think he is stupid enough to do that.
Hika tried to make a discussion before, but it is completely risky if I take a look at his post. I don't think scum will make risky post like that.
Fartownik tried to generate discussion with starting serious vote in Those wagon. His bravery in bandwagoning probably come from town rather than scum.
Okay, why you keep think Hika and Those are scum together? What do you think about Me and BRBP's interaction? And Irreversible and Sakura's interaction?DakeDekaane wrote:
Yeah, that made me retract of Hika being with those almost at all, I think we can't get any solid base before the day ends.
No, it isn't. You can keep your hero by yourself. I was made for this... Literally.BRBP wrote:
Are we supposed to use the character names or do something with them, the ones we chose or were given before the game started.
Why you think she is on the town side?tiper wrote:
I think, she's on the town side, but I'm not assured
=
Irreversible probably town also.
Okay then..
@Lincolm, why do you only make some conjectures? I mean of course it's pretty logic that you want to know who is where, but still. Also: Why do you always write 'they are townies'? Why don't you write.. they are scum, the evil ones etc.? This lets me think about that you're a townie as well.
@Sakura, the way you act is a bit strange for me, it seems like you want to let the others think you're a townie, but you're not one at all. What do you think about this?
@Lincolm, why do you only make some conjectures? I mean of course it's pretty logic that you want to know who is where, but still. Also: Why do you always write 'they are townies'? Why don't you write.. they are scum, the evil ones etc.? This lets me think about that you're a townie as well.
@Sakura, the way you act is a bit strange for me, it seems like you want to let the others think you're a townie, but you're not one at all. What do you think about this?
It's not about losing a vote on me, it's why you put it there in the first place, I'm really not buying your reaction argument, considering that you just voted me without giving a reason, the timing of it seemed odd too. I had something in mind you said hm? of course i had something in mind, i was thinking that Irre's reason was vague, so I wanted to get a better answer out of him, which is why i applied pressure with a vote. You on the other hand, didn't say anything and just voted, Why did people sheep you? Were you prepared to get sheeped by voting for no reason rather than questioned?Konei wrote:
Nope, it wasn't a matter of saving Irreversible out of a danger since I have no idea if he's scum or not.Sakura wrote:
Well since if i sit and do nothing the scum arent going to magically appear out of nowhere, imma ask a question to tiper and Konei.
@Konei: Why did you suddenly jump on me when i just did a pressure vote on Irreversible to get a better answer? Don't tell me it was reaction testing, considering you were the first vote, I kinda doubt that, as there was no B/W forming yet, and you suddenly jumped when you saw Irreversible in "danger"
I just assumed you were having something in mind, so I decided to take a look on your reaction if you are voted.
Also I don't have many targets to vote at the moment, so I thought it'd be not a lose to vote you considering that I have still time to think about my vote.
My FoS on you and tiper is increasing more and more.
I'm acting towny, ergo I am scum?Irreversible wrote:
@Sakura, the way you act is a bit strange for me, it seems like you want to let the others think you're a townie, but you're not one at all. What do you think about this?
What is the reasoning of that question? the only thing i can think of it is you throwing WIFOM.
What part of me is making you feel like "i want others to think i'm towny", what makes you think i'm not a towny?
My point of voting you was to push you and trying to take youSakura wrote:
It's not about losing a vote on me, it's why you put it there in the first place, I'm really not buying your reaction argument, considering that you just voted me without giving a reason, the timing of it seemed odd too. I had something in mind you said hm? of course i had something in mind, i was thinking that Irre's reason was vague, so I wanted to get a better answer out of him, which is why i applied pressure with a vote. You on the other hand, didn't say anything and just voted, Why did people sheep you? Were you prepared to get sheeped by voting for no reason rather than questioned?
My FoS on you and tiper is increasing more and more.
out of guard for a bit to prove if you are scum or not, and well, I can say nothing for sure at the moment so I'm just leaving my vote
on you for the moment being.
So you reaction test me, get nothing out of it, so you decide to leave the vote on me, instead of scumhunt.
Ok, this attitude has been noted then.
Ok, this attitude has been noted then.
Actually you do have a point here Sakura.Sakura wrote:
So you reaction test me, get nothing out of it, so you decide to leave the vote on me, instead of scumhunt.
Ok, this attitude has been noted then.
Unvote: Sakura
I'll just revoke my vote for the moment and wait for some guys to post.
No, that's not what I said, it's just that you want to let the others think that you're a townie, what kinda lets me think about you're something else. The part is following: You are asking really weird things, and sometimes they are really taken from nowhere, somehow, got me? Of course this can be wrong, that's just how I feel. The reason is not WIFOM (is this Whine in front of me? i don't really know these shortcuts yet, sorry), it's more that i want to figure out that i want to know what you really are.Sakura wrote:
I'm acting towny, ergo I am scum?Irreversible wrote:
@Sakura, the way you act is a bit strange for me, it seems like you want to let the others think you're a townie, but you're not one at all. What do you think about this?
What is the reasoning of that question? the only thing i can think of it is you throwing WIFOM.
What part of me is making you feel like "i want others to think i'm towny", what makes you think i'm not a towny?
It's called PoE (process of elimination), a common action used to lower the probability of people being scum. Also I can't really say if Lincolm is town yet. It's obvious he'd play the game this way even if he was scum, can't really say by the R1. Also if BRBP and Lincolm were scum together that little fight would be a magnificent way to pull away the further suspicions :p But that's just another WIFOM.Irreversible wrote:
Okay then..
@Lincolm, why do you only make some conjectures? I mean of course it's pretty logic that you want to know who is where, but still. Also: Why do you always write 'they are townies'? Why don't you write.. they are scum, the evil ones etc.? This lets me think about that you're a townie as well.
You mean, conjectures = WIFOM? My read basically from WIFOM + Occam's Razor. There are 11 towns in here and 3 mafias (Hey, I know my own role). It is more easier to seek towns rather than mafias. Towns are honest and mafias are contrived, it is more easier to take a look the honest. Also, make a group of towns (if we trust each others actually) could make a pressure to mafias.Irreversible wrote:
@Lincolm, why do you only make some conjectures? I mean of course it's pretty logic that you want to know who is where, but still. Also: Why do you always write 'they are townies'? Why don't you write.. they are scum, the evil ones etc.? This lets me think about that you're a townie as well.
Don't judge someone like this. This is basically come from someone play, and this is how I play. Probably good move for me to do this if I was scum, because I can protecting and buddying with my mafias friend.
Also, Fartownik is right.
=
By the way, late midnight here. Will take a look that those many preview edit later, except Fartownik's.
I agree that'd be pretty bad scumplay, so let's review.BRBP wrote:
Isn't it frustrating, Sakura? When you have to repeat yourself a million times before they understand
@Konei, you can't really "test" anyone with a 1/8 vote on RVS, lol. That's just a bad excuse.
I don't think all three of them are scum, that'd be the worst scumplay I've ever seen.
I'll leave my vote on Irre and go to sleep.
1) I vote Irre in hopes of getting a better answer.
2) Konei votes me without giving a reason to "reaction test".
3) Irre OMGUS's me rather than question Konei's sudden vote on me.
4) tiper joins the B/W, now this has more chances of being an actual reaction test, since i already had a B/W on me.
Conclusion, I can prob. see Irre and Konei being scum but not together. If they were scum together there's no way both of them would have jumped on me at the same time, Irre didn't question Konei, but considering he's new he prob. was just focused on me and didn't realize Konei's vote on me existed.
Actually... nvm there's higher chance of Konei being scum than Irre.
Vote: Konei
Oh wow, so many new posts while i was typing my last one, imma read them ASAP.
tiper
For now all that I'm doing, I'm doing to get more information about players. Nothing more.Sakura wrote:
@tiper: Why did you jump on my b/w when Irreversible's vote was obviously an OMGUS vote?
Because ofLincolm wrote:
Why you think she is on the town side?
And what do you think?
Well i don't mind that, i just mind the fact that the 2 votes on me were more scummy in nature than mine, but ok to each their own, since everyone has their playstyle.
@Irre: So you're saying that only scum want to look towny and towny doesnt want to look towny? sounds counter-productive to me, unless you're an anti-town player.
As for the WIFOM:
She's not towny, she's a scum trying to look towny, she's a towny trying to look like a scum trying to look towny, she's a scum trying to look towny by looking like a scum trying to look towny, etc...
See where that gets us?.
I can't think of any possible reason why a player be it town or scum wouldn't want to look towny, can you?
@Irre: So you're saying that only scum want to look towny and towny doesnt want to look towny? sounds counter-productive to me, unless you're an anti-town player.
As for the WIFOM:
She's not towny, she's a scum trying to look towny, she's a towny trying to look like a scum trying to look towny, she's a scum trying to look towny by looking like a scum trying to look towny, etc...
See where that gets us?.
I can't think of any possible reason why a player be it town or scum wouldn't want to look towny, can you?
I'm sorry for my weird argumentations so far, i thought there are 3 teams, omg XD
i'm going to read the other posts soon, and ask some more questions.
so far: unvote: sakura because i messed the things up
EBWOP: I have to make Unvote: Sakura bold
i'm going to read the other posts soon, and ask some more questions.
so far: unvote: sakura because i messed the things up
EBWOP: I have to make Unvote: Sakura bold
Just dont edit your post, put that in your next post...Irreversible wrote:
I'm sorry for my weird argumentations so far, i thought there are 3 teams, omg XD
i'm going to read the other posts soon, and ask some more questions.
so far: unvote: sakura because i messed the things up
EBWOP: I have to make Unvote: Sakura bold
Ok, questions from me now.
@Irre: What do you think about Konei and tiper bandwagoning after you? (also please, when you Vote/Unvote, do it always in bold)
Starting to think that both tiper and Konei are scum. Reason: absoletely no communication between them in the thread, while they do the exact same thing. They're mafia daychatting and also newbies, forgetting that they must keep the show also in the thread.
My read for now, my vote still on Konei.
@Irre: What do you think about Konei and tiper bandwagoning after you? (also please, when you Vote/Unvote, do it always in bold)
Starting to think that both tiper and Konei are scum. Reason: absoletely no communication between them in the thread, while they do the exact same thing. They're mafia daychatting and also newbies, forgetting that they must keep the show also in the thread.
My read for now, my vote still on Konei.
Sakura, please stop being so confusing.If you are townie. If others think you are townie, why do you want to persuade them that no.Or at least i get this from your posts.
Btw, interesting reading as an "outsider" how everyone suspects everyone ,lol .
Btw, interesting reading as an "outsider" how everyone suspects everyone ,lol .
tiper
@Mod: vote count please
Why is everybody behind konei now? o.o'' don't really get that, only because sakura voted him first ? (as far as i remember)
I voted Konei first. Just read through our previous posts, the explanations are there.
If you keep count farto voted him first, he provided his reason and I provided mine.Irreversible wrote:
Why is everybody behind konei now? o.o'' don't really get that, only because sakura voted him first ? (as far as i remember)
@farto: thoughts on tiper's vote for Konei? do you think he's busing? do you think he's town?
If he doesn't cancel his vote at the end of the day and Konei turns scum then he's probably town.Sakura wrote:
@farto: thoughts on tiper's vote for Konei? do you think he's busing? do you think he's town?
('probably' because it's still R1, nothing is sure)
Btw. I like this game so far. 13 pages of posts and not even half a D1 has passed. This is good.
Topic Starter
VOTE COUNT:
Konei (4) - Nyquill, fartownik, Sakura, tiper
those (2) - Tsukass, DakeDekaane
Tsukasa (2) - Hika, Raging Bull
DakeDekaane (1) - Lincolm
Nyquill (1) - ReVeNg3r
No Lynch (1) - those
Irreversible (1) - BRBP
those (2) - Tsukass, DakeDekaane
Tsukasa (2) - Hika, Raging Bull
DakeDekaane (1) - Lincolm
Nyquill (1) - ReVeNg3r
No Lynch (1) - those
Irreversible (1) - BRBP
...I thought I did?fartownik wrote:
I voted Konei first. Just read through our previous posts, the explanations are there.
Maybe cuz Sakura caught the guy "Oh, I don't know if it's you, but I'll leave my vote on you for now so if you get lynched it will be like an innocent kill" with p/2305512Irreversible wrote:
Why is everybody behind konei now?
Then Konei immediately unvoted cuz "oh no I got caught".
Maybe.
Unvote: No Lynch
Oh, you're right. That no votecount.Nyquill wrote:
...I thought I did?fartownik wrote:
I voted Konei first. Just read through our previous posts, the explanations are there.
@fartownik: Dunno what I should think about, maybe they want to get sure that they are a townie, who knows.
This is pretty messed up right now, dunno who deserved my vote right now
This is pretty messed up right now, dunno who deserved my vote right now
You can always no-lynch if you're not sure, analyze the ISOs to get more information, random vote or just sheep to someone.Irreversible wrote:
@fartownik: Dunno what I should think about, maybe they want to get sure that they are a townie, who knows.
This is pretty messed up right now, dunno who deserved my vote right now
How much time left to vote?
lol.. that's more than enough :c
I don't think Hika and those are scum together, but there's a posibility of that being true, maybe it was a true misunderstanding from my part, dunno. But I'm a bit curious how you say Hika is most probably town, what made you think that? I can remember Hika said he(she) wanted to make D1 a little more interesting, why?Lincolm wrote:
Okay, why you keep think Hika and Those are scum together? What do you think about Me and BRBP's interaction? And Irreversible and Sakura's interaction?DakeDekaane wrote:
Yeah, that made me retract of Hika being with those almost at all, I think we can't get any solid base before the day ends.
About you and BRBP, I can see it as BRBP get annoyed due many questions and thoughts maybe? But BRBP "defending but not defending" those, maybe he's something with those or want to draw attention to him? Don't know really.
Irre and Sakura looks to me like two towns trying to blame the another for silly reasons: "you vote me, then i vote you", why towns? Irre said this is his first game so it may be possible that when Sakura voted him due to his RV and provided no reasons, and Irre voted Sakura was more like newbie panic, implying neither is scum, Sakura is likely town after receiving that bandwagon.
To help you a bit in this thread you can find the ISO archives where you can look at everyone's posts on an specific game on ISO (Isolation)Irreversible wrote:
lol.. that's more than enough :c
Well guess we can't do much except wait until Konei's reply. In the meantime guess i'll ask some questions.
@DakeDekane: What are your opinions on the 3 people that wagoned me outta nowhere?
@Irreversible: So now what are you gonna do? are you just gonna sit there and do nothing?
@those: So you give "maybe" reasons on Koney, you vote no one, and still take no step towards scumhunting, are you gonna just stand there and do nothing?
@ReVeNg3r: So you say you're an "outsider" when you're a player of the game? What makes you say that? Why aren't you providing any content?
@Mr Color & Raging Bull: Are you guys ever gonna post some content?
@Sakura: I think i'm going to ask some questions now.
@Tsukasa: You 'obviously' voted those. Why?
@Raging Bull: Is there a reason why you voted for Tsukasa? Did you vote for him because he voted those? Tell us *O*
@Sakura: What do you think about Dake and Konei right now? Because it seems like you're not trusting them.
@Konei: What do you say to the comment from those: 'Oh no I got caught'?
@Tsukasa: You 'obviously' voted those. Why?
@Raging Bull: Is there a reason why you voted for Tsukasa? Did you vote for him because he voted those? Tell us *O*
@Sakura: What do you think about Dake and Konei right now? Because it seems like you're not trusting them.
@Konei: What do you say to the comment from those: 'Oh no I got caught'?
Dake: Null atm, don't see much from him in the terms of scumhunting tho I do see him at least reading the thread, Tho after reading his ISO i got another question for him.Irreversible wrote:
@Sakura: What do you think about Dake and Konei right now? Because it seems like you're not trusting them.
Konei: Scum for the reasons I mentioned before.
@Dake: What makes you still keep your vote on those? he already removed his No-Lynch vote, and other than him not having much content I don't see much of a reason to keep the vote on him. If you still see him as scum would you care to try to sell us your case or reasonings?. Not gonna lie tho, I do have my FoS on him, but it's not stronger than my other FoSs and due to his lack of content he's null with a slight scum lean at best for me.
I'm not sure if Tsukasa changed his vote while I was gone but since I'm on my phone, I won't look on that.
My vote stays on Tsukasa because I have no leads and I feel that Sakura could be townie challenging everyone suspecting her.
It is quite possible that the only reason that some people voted those in general could be because he was clearly scum in Mafia Restoration Project, but others need to realize that even if it's possible to be scum once again, it's possibly unlikely but we will see how the game progresses. I think if we accelerate day by hammering in, it'll get better than this but you all have managed to make this game interesting with the analyzation of misunderstandings, as I've seen after reading the last few pages.DakeDekaane wrote:
Was Tsukasa trying to lead the wagon on those? Why.
My vote stays on Tsukasa because I have no leads and I feel that Sakura could be townie challenging everyone suspecting her.
NEVER!Sakura wrote:
@Mr Color & Raging Bull: Are you guys ever gonna post some content?
Yeah sorry for taking the game a bit lightly up to this point, had real life and shit kick in and I wasn't exactly available all the time plus I kinda forgot about the whole thing so yeah pizzabutt
seeing as I'm kind of a noob in the game, I don't really know what to think of all the previous discussion that has occured prior to this post, and thus don't really have a reason to vote against anyone yet -- I don't really want to go from gut feeling either.
And since I've been so active until now I'll take a break for a few hours; gotta sleep. Hopefully I don't wake up to 87 and a half votes against me.
Hi
And I cannot follow the those/BRBP conversation, I am so lost with that.
For the bandwagon on Sakura, it's rather suspicious gameplay. Why would all 3 vote at the same time.
Apparently Konei voted for Sakura to get a reaction, but I do not know why. He did not post anything prior and just vote Sakura. I also felt like he would have just kept his vote on Sakura if she did not say how he did not get any reaction out of her.
And then Irre just votes on Sakura probably because of OMGUS or newbie players. But I don't always believe people saying they are new. Not everyone has the same reaction. I don't vote back because that just makes me feel more scummy. Also wouldn't you do OMGUS because you don't know the person? And it seems obvious why you justify your vote, everyone was doing it.
tiper (since he doesnt want it as Tiper haha) I'm not too sure. He did not really post anything that stands out to me.
Unvote
RVSIrreversible wrote:
@Raging Bull: Is there a reason why you voted for Tsukasa? Did you vote for him because he voted those? Tell us *O*
And I cannot follow the those/BRBP conversation, I am so lost with that.
For the bandwagon on Sakura, it's rather suspicious gameplay. Why would all 3 vote at the same time.
Apparently Konei voted for Sakura to get a reaction, but I do not know why. He did not post anything prior and just vote Sakura. I also felt like he would have just kept his vote on Sakura if she did not say how he did not get any reaction out of her.
And then Irre just votes on Sakura probably because of OMGUS or newbie players. But I don't always believe people saying they are new. Not everyone has the same reaction. I don't vote back because that just makes me feel more scummy. Also wouldn't you do OMGUS because you don't know the person? And it seems obvious why you justify your vote, everyone was doing it.
tiper (since he doesnt want it as Tiper haha) I'm not too sure. He did not really post anything that stands out to me.
Unvote
@Mr Color: I hope you don't do this, only to avoid some discussions and stuff, otherwise this would be very predictable now.
Another question to Sakura: Why do you try to be that agressive? I mean yeah, you want to get away the scum.. but this is so confusing to me, I'm still behind my theorie that you want to camouflage that you're scum yourself. @~@ My FoS is still on you. And no, this is not only because you voted me once.
Another question to Sakura: Why do you try to be that agressive? I mean yeah, you want to get away the scum.. but this is so confusing to me, I'm still behind my theorie that you want to camouflage that you're scum yourself. @~@ My FoS is still on you. And no, this is not only because you voted me once.
Btw, I'm sleeping now, so maybe you shouldn't ask me 3000 questions, maybe you won't get an answer. o/
Well, when I first checked the thread it was basically nothing but RVS (and when I first replied I was actually at school lol) so I didn't think there'd be much of a discussion going on, but what do you know, it happened. You're probably gonna hear more from me later on.
Ahh I'll give it another read about brbp/those.
Because you can act pro-town as scum so people won't suspect you.Irreversible wrote:
@Mr Color: I hope you don't do this, only to avoid some discussions and stuff, otherwise this would be very predictable now.
Another question to Sakura: Why do you try to be that agressive? I mean yeah, you want to get away the scum.. but this is so confusing to me, I'm still behind my theorie that you want to camouflage that you're scum yourself. @~@ My FoS is still on you. And no, this is not only because you voted me once.
suspect you as much*
So apparently BRBP/those discussion dropped because of Lincolm and BRBP.
Also I found it funny how you just vote for Konei after farto mention how you guys probably have day chat but forgot to talk to each other in the thread and now you vote to keep suspicion away from yourself. I don't think his unvote was protecting himself, but just from a bad choice by voting Sakura.tiper wrote:
@fartownik: I just have nothing to ask Konei.
Finally:
Unvote: Sakura
Vote: Konei
Because his unvote looks like he's protecting himself from being FoSing by others.
I'm going to sleep, see you tommorow.
Well then let's take a look back, when did Irreversible start FoSing me?
When i asked him about his "evil things" for his vote on those, he replied with a vague answer so I voted him to get a better answer, that's what got him his FoS on me, I already mentioned my reasons why, yet he thinks I'm trying to camouflage myself because I'm scum appearing Town, yet he's not voting me, yet he's not voting anyone.
He seems to like Tunneling on me, and he's going to hit a big steel wall on that tunnel if he keeps this up, or probably get lynched himself in the end.
Being aggresive is a playstyle not a town/scum tell, I like being aggresive because i find scum slips more often that way.
@Irreversible: I've seen you keep asking questions, nice work, now would be nice if you gave us some reads on what your questions have gotten you. If you have any scum reads, why aren't you voting any of them? from your previous post it seems like you want to say I'm scum, yet don't dare to vote me, with no further leads why aren't you voting your one and only suspect?
When i asked him about his "evil things" for his vote on those, he replied with a vague answer so I voted him to get a better answer, that's what got him his FoS on me, I already mentioned my reasons why, yet he thinks I'm trying to camouflage myself because I'm scum appearing Town, yet he's not voting me, yet he's not voting anyone.
He seems to like Tunneling on me, and he's going to hit a big steel wall on that tunnel if he keeps this up, or probably get lynched himself in the end.
Being aggresive is a playstyle not a town/scum tell, I like being aggresive because i find scum slips more often that way.
@Irreversible: I've seen you keep asking questions, nice work, now would be nice if you gave us some reads on what your questions have gotten you. If you have any scum reads, why aren't you voting any of them? from your previous post it seems like you want to say I'm scum, yet don't dare to vote me, with no further leads why aren't you voting your one and only suspect?
I already said my opinion about Irre, it's a bit hard to tell about Konei and tiper, because both voted with no reason at all, but Konei changed and gave a cheap reason of the why and then changed again as there was no basis on that vote, very suspicious for me if you ask, that and somehow starting the bandwagon against you. And about tiper dunno what to say, he just voted and answered some questions, nothing outstanding in my opinion.Sakura wrote:
@DakeDekane: What are your opinions on the 3 people that wagoned me outta nowhere?
Why am I keeping my vote on those, you're curious, aren't you? I could change my vote for Konei, as he already is suspicious enough, but I really want to gather more info from our missing people (it looks like two of them appeared finally) here before making my final decision, don't want that sudden 3 votes following bandwagon for Konei . those is still suspicious though, giving away Konei based on his last post? Who knows. But he's already in a lower level, but unvoting no lynch means nothing if he still can join the leading bandwagon, that's why I keep my vote on those.Sakura wrote:
@Dake: What makes you still keep your vote on those? he already removed his No-Lynch vote, and other than him not having much content I don't see much of a reason to keep the vote on him. If you still see him as scum would you care to try to sell us your case or reasonings?. Not gonna lie tho, I do have my FoS on him, but it's not stronger than my other FoSs and due to his lack of content he's null with a slight scum lean at best for me.
Now some things I'd like to know:
@those: Why did you removed your vote for no lynching but voting nobody?
@Mr Color and Raging Bull: What is your opinion about Konei?
@Nyquill: Where are you?
"Apparently Konei voted for Sakura to get a reaction, but I do not know why. He did not post anything prior and just vote Sakura. I also felt like he would have just kept his vote on Sakura if she did not say how he did not get any reaction out of her."
Rather suspicious. He didn't post much and then jumps on Sakura. Last post was him waiting for some guys to post.
@Konei who did you want to post and what answers do you want?
Rather suspicious. He didn't post much and then jumps on Sakura. Last post was him waiting for some guys to post.
@Konei who did you want to post and what answers do you want?
why do i have to be the only one who lives on the other side of the world.