Zarerion wrote:

Modding the unmoddable.

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1. 00:41:787 (2) - add a note. unless it kills your pattern isn't this already a note? hehe
2. 00:53:037 (1) - ctrl & g & move upwards so it blankets previous (2) changed placement
3. 01:20:662 (4,5) - This killed my combo twice, I'd reduce the spacing a bit moved (4) farther from (3) and decreased distance from (4) to (5) slightly, this should play better
4. 01:23:287 (3,4,1,2) - I kind of disliked this flow-wise, maybe rotating (2) and the following sliders, or moving (4) down, or switching (4) and (1), or something would help i think this is ok
5. 01:24:537 (1) - make the curve down instead of up, so it flows better into (2) done
6. 01:26:787 (3) - ctrl & g? nah, i want the end of (1) -> (2) -> head of (3) to be sharp (sharp jumps are easier to hit hehe)
7. 01:33:412 (1,2,1,1,2,1) - these NC's aren't really necessary imo, especially since you didn't have them on the previous sliders right
8. 01:36:037 (1,2,3,4) - this and 01:38:037 (1,2,3,4) - don't play too well. ctrl & g both (2)'s and both (4)'s or something similar to improve the flow (you might also raise the spacing then if you want to keep it hard) gave it a shot, but it seems to just make the pattern needlessly convoluted, so i think i'll keep as is
9. 01:40:662 (5) - purely for aesthetics, but this is pretty close to (3) hm yes, moved a bit
10. 01:43:787 (4) - make it blanket (2) done
11. 01:47:537 (3,4,1) - Hm... this actually.. looks random. D: Something like that maybe ok
    
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12. 01:51:037 (1,2,3) - just experimenting a bit: i'd like to keep visual unity with 01:51:037 (1,3,3,4,5,3) -
    
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13. 01:53:912 - a 1/1 slider until 01:54:162 - instead? you did that before, too, and it wouldn't kill any patterns here thats true, but there's a lot of heavy beats in the music here and i want to include them all, like the one at 01:54:037 -
14. 01:54:287 (2) - this slider doesn't seem to fit indeed... now changed to sexy wave slider
15. 02:00:537 (3,4,5) - make triangle shape more symmetrical. (3) is too close to (5) atm i'm seeing more of a pentagon here
16. 02:05:662 (4,5,6,1,2,3) - welp, seeing this in the editor now I get what you intended to do here, but the flow from (6) ~ (1) ~ (2) is really awkward moved a lot of stuff around
17. 02:06:537 (4,5,6,7,8) - curve upwards? ^
18. 02:07:162 (1) - I said it in IRC already, move this spinner on 02:07:412 - oh, where the beat ends, ok
19. 02:38:662 (1,2,1) - you know, this kinda undermapped, making thi feel awkward when playing don't want to go full force out of a spinner lol
20. 02:57:412 (2,3,4) - nah, i prefer the 180 degree symmetry here
    
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21. 03:09:787 (3) - blanket (2) nudged sliders
22. 03:29:412 (3) - I would Ctrl & G this slider that would cause some issues with the flow after it
23. 03:33:912 (1,2,3) - I dislike the flow here, suggestion: changed
    
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24. 03:43:037 - insert Break time? not really necessary
25. 03:47:037 (1) - this speedup got me...twice. A bit slower, like SV x0.8 maybe? i want it to end on (2) lol
26. 03:51:037 (1) - ^
27. 03:58:662 (4,5,6,1) - get rid of the kickslider, make this a full stream, to raise the suspense etc. too hard for that part imo D:
28. 03:59:037 (1,2,3) - consistent spacing? oops fixed
29. 04:01:037 (3) - curvy slider? bending either way looks awkward to me
30. 04:02:287 (2) - Ctrl & G (and move a bit upwards so the spacing stys the same? moved a bit differently
31. 04:05:287 (6,7) - this spacing is too low, I almost suspected this to be a tiny 1/4 jump or something....anyway, it's confusing increased spacing
32. 04:12:474 (5) - spacing waaat. why suddenly 1.0 now? no idea LOL made 0.6x like previous
33. 04:33:912 (4,1,2,3,4,5) - that's probably just me, but I don't like these patterns D: i find this kind of stuff more comfortable to snap to, lol
34. 04:44:724 (6) - nazi, but move a few grids up&right so you get a curvy flow ok
35. 04:47:037 (1,2) - This is just the wrong rhythm, unless I'm retarded it's supposed to be like that:
    
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36. 04:48:037 (1,2) - doesn't seem quite right either changed it a little, the guitar is so weird D: it's probably still a bit off, but at least the sliders make it lenient
37. 04:51:037 (1) - I hate such sliders. You have to follow them perfectly if you don't wanna break reduced notch in slider
38. 04:55:787 (4) - blanket (2) done
39. 05:17:412 (2) - subjective: bad shape made less scrunched up
40. 05:41:037 (1,2,3,4) - why not make the whole thing symmetrical? adjusted position of (4)
41. 05:46:287 (2,3,4,5) - image failed huehuehueuhe
    
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42. 06:15:162 (1) - move this spinner to 06:15:412 - done
43. 06:48:287 (1) - this one sure is weird, it doesn't really fit the...what is it? a breathing sound? moved 1/2 later, made 1/2 shorter
44. 07:05:287 (6) - a last, long stream here? nah, want to reduce intensity
    
45. couldn't really find anything wrong with the Hitsounds except for maybe 02:54:037 - after this, continue with the previus finishes and place them on the 1/2 beats as well, to get in even stronger nah, seems a little excessive

Someone teach me modding, please. awesome mod, thanks for your help \:D/

Yeah, this is just amazing, seriously, nothing else to say. Have a star. thanks!

1. 05:34:787 (87,88,89,90,91,92,93) - Remove 91 and 92, change 90 to a k. Or do something else, but basically make it shorter.

20:07 Makar:  /np the map
20:07 *kazukisinx is listening to t+pazolite - Distorted Lovesong
20:07 kazukisinx: oh wat
20:08 *kazukisinx is listening to [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/229806 t+pazolite - Distorted Lovesong]
20:10 Makar: okay
20:12 Makar: I don't really like the use of 1/6 in this
20:12 Makar: 1/6 at high BPM is more of a "unsubmit" thing that is done in taikos
20:12 Makar: no ranked maps actually does it to an extreme
20:13 kazukisinx: what you think i should put to replace them
20:13 Makar: I would suggest 1/4
20:13 Makar: instead of 1/6
20:13 Makar: ex
20:13 Makar: 01:20:672 (124,125,126,127,128) - 
20:13 Makar: you can jsut do kkkkk
20:13 Makar: instead of (kkkk) k
20:15 kazukisinx: changed to kkk k
20:15 kazukisinx: (1/4)
20:15 Makar: kk
20:15 Makar: 03:18:797 (87,88,89,90) - 
20:15 Makar: you can eithe rdo kkd
20:15 Makar: or
20:15 Makar: combine it with the stream
20:15 Makar: to make the stream kdddkkdkkkd
20:16 Makar: your choice
20:16 Makar: or anything else really
20:16 kazukisinx: i think i should call backfire
20:16 Makar: well
20:16 Makar: if you -really- like the 1/6
20:17 Makar: you can keep it; I just don't recommend it for a ranked map
20:17 kazukisinx: app*
20:17 Makar: app and rank
20:17 Makar: is the same thing now
20:17 Makar: th eonly difference is the length
20:17 Makar: just so ya know
20:17 Makar: I mod the same way for both
20:17 Makar: as advised
20:17 Makar: but yeah these are just suggestions
20:17 kazukisinx: ok
20:17 Makar: you can ignore if its too much trouble
20:18 kazukisinx: dont worry,im asking backfire if i can modify his parts on the collab,or if he is coming
20:19 Makar: 04:15:047 - this section is really overmapped to me
20:19 Makar: there needs to be 1/1 breaks here to fit this quiet part int he music
20:19 kazukisinx: i combined it
20:19 kazukisinx: the part you mean before
20:20 Makar: okay
20:20 Makar: for the slow section
20:20 Makar: I will give a bunch of suggestions to make it "lighter"
20:20 Makar: first...
20:20 Makar: 04:15:172 - delete
20:20 Makar: 04:15:672 - delete
20:21 Makar: 04:15:922 - delete
20:21 Makar: 04:16:172 - delete
20:21 Makar: 04:16:922 - delete
20:21 Makar: 04:17:172 - delete
20:21 Makar: 04:17:672 - delete
20:22 Makar: 04:17:922 - delete
20:22 Makar: 04:18:922 - delete
20:23 Makar: sound fine here?
20:23 kazukisinx: sounds well
20:23 Makar: 04:22:734 - delete
20:24 Makar: 04:22:859 - delete
20:24 kazukisinx: still worried because is a backfire's part but is ok
20:25 Makar: 04:54:047 - kkk?
20:25 kazukisinx:   im will not delete this
20:25 kazukisinx: 04:22:734 - 
20:25 kazukisinx: oh
20:25 kazukisinx: wait
20:26 Makar: o.o
20:26 kazukisinx:  deleted both,when you delete both sounds fine
20:26 Makar: okee
20:26 Makar: 05:02:797 (61,62,63,64) -  ddk? 1/4
20:26 kazukisinx: 04:54:047 - 
20:26 kazukisinx: in this part
20:26 kazukisinx: i deleted 1/6
20:26 Makar: okay
20:26 kazukisinx: and put a kkkkddd stream
20:27 Makar: okay 
20:28 Makar: 05:26:172 - 
20:28 kazukisinx: changed into ddk
20:28 Makar: I'd say remove the speedup 
20:28 Makar: because
20:28 Makar: it makes 05:27:047 - unseeable
20:28 Makar: which is kinda unrankable soo
20:29 Makar: would be nice if you changed
20:29 kazukisinx: i can see it properly o.o
20:29 kazukisinx: what about smoothing it?
20:29 kazukisinx: i told it to backfire
20:29 kazukisinx: that speedup is maybe unrankeable
20:29 Makar: it needs to be so that the note doesn't pass it
20:29 kazukisinx: but he decided to put it anyways
20:30 Makar: the finisher starts out before that note then passes it just before you have to play it
20:30 Makar: which can be confusing
20:30 Makar: especially with hidden mod lol
20:30 kazukisinx: i think if we maybe do the speedup a little less fast,it can be readable
20:30 Makar: that too
20:30 Makar: or if ou deleted 05:26:922 - 
20:30 Makar: it would solve the problem as well
20:33 kazukisinx:    doesnt sounds good :c
20:34 Makar: 05:34:797 (87,88,89,90) -  kkk
20:39 Makar: came to a solution with backfire
20:39 kazukisinx: :3?
20:39 Makar: delete the 1.30 and 1.35 timing points at 05:26:797 - 
20:39 Makar: and it will be okay
20:40 Makar: 05:42:047 - kkkkd or w/e you like
20:40 kazukisinx: oh well
20:40 Makar: 05:50:797 - kkk
20:41 Makar: okay now for the part that is most troubling to me
20:41 Makar: one minute
20:42 kazukisinx: did it all
20:42 Makar: 06:16:047 - 
20:42 Makar: th eproblem here is tha tyou can't here the music at all in this section because of how quiet it is
20:43 Makar: and so I would highly recommend you delete this whole section and just have a break
20:43 Makar: from there to 06:34:797 - 
20:43 kazukisinx:  that i was thinking,but no breaks on taiko
20:43 Makar: they are allowed
20:43 Makar: and perfectly fine
20:43 Makar: so don't worry about that part
20:44 kazukisinx: also,there are some sounds to map 
20:44 kazukisinx: if you see Ono's Taikosaki,he mapped it too
20:44 kazukisinx: same with Firce Force
20:44 Makar: yeah but this is what you need to realize:
20:44 Makar: this map is for rank/app
20:44 kazukisinx: yup
20:44 Makar: and is not some thing to map without worrying
20:45 Makar: and so there are more strict standards
20:45 kazukisinx: but its still a resting section
20:45 kazukisinx: definitively you think its properly a break?
20:45 kazukisinx: maybe a spinner or something..
20:46 Makar: a long spinner would not fit
20:46 Makar: I suggest just deleting the section, it seems to be the best solution
20:47 kazukisinx: completely sure?
20:47 Makar: very sure
20:48 kazukisinx: ok i will trust you
20:49 Makar: 06:46:609 (1) -  delete this spinner - it is completely silent here
20:49 Makar: sounds better to keep it that way with the map too
20:50 kazukisinx: what about shortening it since here 06:48:422 -  to the end?
20:50 kazukisinx: i mean,the end of that spinner
20:50 Makar: it still makes it so there are hitsounds where there is no music
20:50 Makar: so I still recommend you delete it
20:50 kazukisinx: ok
20:52 Makar: 06:16:047 - delete this timing point
20:53 Makar: 06:30:047- move thisone to 06:34:797 - 
20:53 Makar: 06:30:047 - move this one to 06:34:797 -   *
20:55 kazukisinx: ok
20:56 Makar: send update to RLC
20:56 Makar: remembe to save
20:56 kazukisinx: okok
20:58 kazukisinx: did it
20:59 Makar: ty

10:53 Makar: hey o.o
10:54 tetsutaro: Hi
10:54 Makar: uh I know you might be busy recently but
10:54 Makar: there is a map I want to rank but I want some other good modders opinions on it first
10:54 Makar: before I rank it
10:54 Makar: would you mind modding or at least looking over a map for me?
10:55 tetsutaro: I can't say I am a good modder just yet, but yeah I have about 1/4 hour (maybe more) to check out stuff
10:55 Makar: I think you are
10:55 Makar: so good enough for me
10:55 Makar: xD
10:55 Makar: also it is... a really hard map
10:55 Makar: are you able to mod those?
10:56 tetsutaro: This is my not-good part, but I'll try
10:56 Makar: ah, well something is better than nothing
10:56 *Makar is editing [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/245124 t+pazolite - Distorted Lovesong [Taikocalypse DX]]
10:58 tetsutaro: Wait wouldn't 1O1T not able to be ranked?
10:59 Makar: its for approval
10:59 Makar: since its longer than 6 minutes
10:59 Makar: so it is allowed (special case)
11:00 tetsutaro: I'll do it here
11:01 tetsutaro: kkD and ddD's after the 1st speed up, not sure if BATs would approve
11:03 Makar: I am a BAT
11:03 Makar: lol
11:03 tetsutaro: After the first crazy-clustery-part there is one region that hitsounds are virtually cannot be heard
11:03 Makar: it is 1/2 so it's rankable, but we did discuss this already
11:04 Makar: and btw this is somebody elses map not mine
11:04 tetsutaro: OK then
11:04 Makar: so can you point out specifics and yoru opinion on the thread?
11:04 tetsutaro: OK I'll write that up
11:04 Makar: thanks :3