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General "sliders broken by latest build" Thread [confirmed] [resolved]

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Kirino Kousaka
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Topic Starter
Kirino Kousaka
Explain the issue you are having:
Whenever I try to adjust the length of the slider, it disappears. :o (1st set of Screenshots)
Also when I try to clone/copypaste a slider, it goes straight to heaven. :o (2nd set of Screenshots)

I'm not sure if it's me, or osu! lol.
I also don't know if someone already reported this. Well I did this just to make sure. :D


1. Adjust slider length, slider disappears
2. Clone a slider, it doesn't look like a clone.

1st set of Screenshots
From:

Into:

2nd set of Screenshots
Copying:

Paste:
Flask
Beatmap Nominator
3,473 posts
Joined July 2011
Flask
Get the same problem here ;w;


Just want to move the second node some girds left then... yeah.
Tony
1,510 posts
Joined July 2010
Tony
I can confirm this, it happens exactly the same to me too :(
Kirino Kousaka
655 posts
Joined November 2010
Topic Starter
Kirino Kousaka

Flask wrote:

Get the same problem here ;w;


Just want to move the second node some girds left then... yeah.
yes, and I just found some other people experiencing it :<
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CXu
osu! Alumni
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Joined March 2009
CXu
Just confirming for the sake of confirming this.
UnitedWeSin
892 posts
Joined July 2012
UnitedWeSin
;-;
yoshilove
yoshilove
1.Copy

Copy



2.Paste

Paste


:)
deadbeat
osu! Alumni
9,218 posts
Joined June 2009
deadbeat
i think i've missed a update since sliders are working fine for me x.x
none the less, people do seem to be having issues with this, so i'll mark as confirmed and hope that this can be looking into
Nessuka
259 posts
Joined June 2012
Nessuka


Don't forget the bug where you place a control point over the first one and it skews off horribly.

EDIT: moving control points of existing sliders makes them disappear, leave the control points only visible, and become immovable.
Leminine
242 posts
Joined August 2012
Leminine
I'm smashing my keyboard because the slider is hating me Q.Q
Kirino Kousaka
655 posts
Joined November 2010
Topic Starter
Kirino Kousaka

deadbeat wrote:

i think i've missed a update since sliders are working fine for me x.x
none the less, people do seem to be having issues with this, so i'll mark as confirmed and hope that this can be looking into
\:D/

Leminine wrote:

I'm smashing my keyboard because the slider is hating me Q.Q
lol
riffy
osu! Alumni
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Joined December 2010
riffy
Make slider, try to change its shape and you will have the same glitch :/
Jinxy
2,777 posts
Joined February 2009
Jinxy
Wow, literally no slider can be edited at all, not even freshly created ones.

Confirmed so hard, hope this gets fixed ASAP
BrujoAzul
154 posts
Joined June 2012
BrujoAzul
New bug type, in this image, you can see that New Combo isn't enabled, but osu still counts it as a new combo D:

EDIT: Seems like you can still move the slider in the timeline and in the grid, something is something :?
MillhioreF
Pro Tester
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MillhioreF
This is unrelated and is intended behavior. Breaks always add a new combo after they end, regardless of if the object has a proper new combo or not.
Poggo
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Joined January 2012
Poggo
Yeah~ I hope Peppy can fixed this bug bcz now IMPOSSIBLE mapping and modding too~
theowest
osu! Alumni
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theowest

MillhioreF wrote:

This is unrelated and is intended behavior. Breaks always add a new combo after they end, regardless of if the object has a proper new combo or not.
reply to the whole topic or just one of the posts?

I guess this bug came around when these bugs got fixed:
t/119636
t/119580

This is really annoying.
Lally
3,176 posts
Joined December 2011
Lally
still can edit the 3 point sliders, can't edit the 2 point that the slider disappear, if i wanno da a perfect blanket i can't , i don't think somebody can do it in a first try...
mapping like how it's now is impossible really...
quiz-chan_DELETED
quiz-chan_DELETED
Veeery annoying bug, makes modding impossible. peppy, please fix this!! :(
peppy
19,374 posts
Here since the beginning
peppy
Fixed in latest update.
Kyshiro
Elite Mapper
1,642 posts
Joined January 2011
Kyshiro
Copy pasting sliders is still bugged, you can resize them by moving the anchors now though

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kajiyatta
1,421 posts
Joined April 2011
kajiyatta
partly fixed, but some not I suppose.
slider tick can be moved, so we can edit a slider freely but copy & paste doesn't seem better.
copy
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paste
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S o h
Global Moderator
161 posts
Joined January 2013
S o h
Adding a waypoint to your slider also adds an endpoint at (0,0).

Deleting the new endpoint should be a temporary workaround.
Neliel
174 posts
Joined March 2012
Neliel
Changing the slider tick = deleting all sliders.
So don't change slider tick and save like I did. Or all of your sliders are gone.
peppy
19,374 posts
Here since the beginning
peppy
Fixed again.
S o h
Global Moderator
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S o h
I just updated my osu and it still does this, though with a slimmer chance.

It looks normal in my editor but when you look in the osu file itself, it shows up like this:
quiz-chan_DELETED
quiz-chan_DELETED
This is scattered all over the maps loaded in editor:

Randomly happens to any hit object.
This bug is annoying and makes modding freaking impossible. Does anyone experience this as well?
theowest
osu! Alumni
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theowest
I don't think there was an update to the public build 24 minutes ago peppy made his post

peppy wrote:

Fixed again.
You might have just updated it since the previous fix:

peppy wrote:

Fixed in latest update.
I'm not sure though..
yoshilove
yoshilove
Before

Slider


After

Ctrl + Left Click

Ctrl + Left Click

Correction after update is possible.
There are still a little bugs.

However, the slider added newly is OK.
but .
A bug occurs in [Ctrl+LeftClick] after [Ctrl+Z].
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Lally
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Joined December 2011
Lally
circle become slider


if you see (2) was a circle but when you go where 2 is paleced become a slider
S o h
Global Moderator
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Joined January 2013
S o h

theowest wrote:

I don't think there was an update to the public build 24 minutes ago peppy made his post

peppy wrote:

Fixed again.
You might have just updated it since the previous fix:

peppy wrote:

Fixed in latest update.
I'm not sure though..
I'm definitely on the latest build, restarted osu and didn't update.

Currently it seems like all the sliders I put linear waypoints on happens to break when playing in play mode, but appears fine in the editor.

There's a weird phenomenon where the slider is invisible in the timeline until I approach near the point where the slider is.

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Before:

After:


Before:

After:
CXu
osu! Alumni
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CXu
Uhh, sliders seem to be resnappng to whatever you have your snap on.

Oh yeah, this happens when I open a difficulty, or when I undo something.
S o h
Global Moderator
161 posts
Joined January 2013
S o h
So for I figured out that sliders are broken when you open them in your editor, but fixes itself when you go near them. To avoid them breaking when playing your map, you have to scroll through the timeline of your whole beatmap, then save the file, this prevents the NaN in your slider data in the .osu file.

If you have a NaN in your slider data, this happens:
SPOILER

The slider becomes deformed, invisible, and somehow appears to be far out the top left corner.
Marcin
osu! Alumni
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Marcin
Still having a problem with sliders
https://www.dropbox.com/s/je7ni7hwtbuy0 ... 073113.png
https://www.dropbox.com/s/m77zpgpwjc70z ... 073237.png
Sliders appear on timeline only after getting to the point where they're
Marcin
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Marcin
Well, it's still problem with sliders
So i've asked to unresolve t/119688&start=30 that theowest.
Let's mark it duplicate!
theowest
osu! Alumni
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theowest
it seems pretty different, even though they spawned from the same bug. I guess I'll just merge this with the other topic.

tested these bugs on the test build, so I can safely confirm the behaviour on the latest version.
Nessuka
259 posts
Joined June 2012
Nessuka
Top left is 0 on the X plane and 0 on the Y plane.
The endpoint is being fed an invalid value causing the NaN (Not a Number) string to be inserted.

Ingame it probably doesn't know what to do with sliders that have no defined endpoint, thus it becomes invisible.
S o h
Global Moderator
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Joined January 2013
S o h

Ijah wrote:

Top left is 0 on the X plane and 0 on the Y plane.
The endpoint is being fed an invalid value causing the NaN (Not a Number) string to be inserted.

Ingame it probably doesn't know what to do with sliders that have no defined endpoint, thus it becomes invisible.
It's only invisible until the game renders the slider itself on the screen in the editor, though.

Edit: in bold
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meiikyuu
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Joined August 2011
meiikyuu

Souen- wrote:

So for I figured out that sliders are broken when you open them in your editor, but fixes itself when you go near them. To avoid them breaking when playing your map, you have to scroll through the timeline of your whole beatmap, then save the file, this prevents the NaN in your slider data in the .osu file.

If you have a NaN in your slider data, this happens:
SPOILER

The slider becomes deformed, invisible, and somehow appears to be far out the top left corner.
i have this too x_x
AnceriI Sacred
74 posts
Joined November 2012
AnceriI Sacred
same thing here ._.
http://youtu.be/WMuoNPJirow
Dolphin
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Joined January 2012
Dolphin
Explain the issue you are having:
Drumrolls on Taiko disappearing but appearing in Editor.


Is it reproducible? If so, explain the steps to do so:

1. Make a Taiko map, place a slider
2. Go into testmode/playmode (these doesn't matter)
3. Slider(drumroll) that I placed is gone when playing!!

Picture from Editor
Picture from Playmode
The drumroll is supposed to be after the last Don
The last time I updated was today.
I also tried to get a screencap from inside the test window but osu! crashed when doing F12+Shift. :o

Also, doesn't seem like Auto knows that the slider is gone too. It's completely gone for whatever reason. Can't interact with the open area.
theowest
osu! Alumni
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theowest
I think it's related to this bug: https://osu.ppy.sh/forum/t/119688

edit:
who confirmed? oh well.
Wafu
1,703 posts
Joined June 2011
Wafu
Just confirming I have still the same problem. I can't move slider points and also I can't copy and paste slider.
[Luanny]
8,248 posts
Joined April 2011
[Luanny]
holy shit so many bugs
Kyshiro
Elite Mapper
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Joined January 2011
Kyshiro

[Luanny] wrote:

holy shit so many bugs
bugs? where? been mapping the whole time aehuaheuahueah, even got testplay to work somehow

Edit: For those who are hating on the editor and are unable to play their map, I gotz dem temporary solution:(Prevents the sliders from dissapearing)

1. Open the editor
2. Select everything (CTRL+A)
3. Move everything forward and back to where it belongs
4. Play it or testplay it
5. ???
6. Profit!
Distant years
467 posts
Joined April 2012
Distant years

Kyshiro wrote:

[Luanny] wrote:

holy shit so many bugs
bugs? where? been mapping the whole time aehuaheuahueah, even got testplay to work somehow

Edit: For those who are hating on the editor and are unable to play their map, I gotz dem temporary solution:(Prevents the sliders from dissapearing)

1. Open the editor
2. Select everything (CTRL+A)
3. Move everything forward and back to where it belongs
4. Play it or testplay it
5. ???
6. Profit!
OnosakiHito
osu!taiko Paragon
6,864 posts
Joined March 2010
OnosakiHito
Same problem here.

Everytime I try to map for this project at 00:28:637 in this difficultie, I'm receiving a bug in the play/test modus by having some certain slider disappear while in the edit mode they are still avaible.
Screen
Actual slider


Bugged one

Kyshiro wrote:

1. Open the editor
2. Select everything (CTRL+A)
3. Move everything forward and back to where it belongs
4. Play it or testplay it
5. ???
6. Profit!
Wow, it worked. lol
MillhioreF
Pro Tester
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Joined July 2011
MillhioreF
There's so many bugs in here that I changed the topic title to be more appropriate (and also to try and prevent more duplicates)
Kyshiro
Elite Mapper
1,642 posts
Joined January 2011
Kyshiro

OnosakiHito wrote:

Same problem here.

Everytime I try to map for this project at 00:28:637 in this difficultie, I'm receiving a bug in the play/test modus by having some certain slider disappear while in the edit mode they are still avaible.
Screen
Actual slider


Bugged one

Kyshiro wrote:

1. Open the editor
2. Select everything (CTRL+A)
3. Move everything forward and back to where it belongs
4. Play it or testplay it
5. ???
6. Profit!
Wow, it worked. lol
Yeah it does lol, also, you can do that, and instead of playing it, you can export it for others to testplay, works too ahuehauehaue ok i'm useless
[Luanny]
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Joined April 2011
[Luanny]
Kyshiro saved the world
SuperMIC
420 posts
Joined July 2011
SuperMIC
So I'm mapping one of my difficulties in 1/6 and 1/4 (there's triplets and sixteenth notes) and I think due to the new recalculation logic, a big problem as that when I switch between the two all sliders snap to the beat snap I'm in. Then when I try to fix the sliders, the just reset themselves as I switch between beat snaps again.

"example1"


When I switch back to 1/6:

But:

Slider should land on blue tick

As far as I can tell, this problem self-resolves when playing/testing a map, but still it's very hard and annoying to work with in-editor.

To reproduce:

1. Change the beat snap in any map
2. ???
3. Profit!

Please fix! :s
Natteke
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Joined August 2009
Natteke
badum tss

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Kyshiro
Elite Mapper
1,642 posts
Joined January 2011
Kyshiro

[Luanny] wrote:

Kyshiro saved the world
Don't worry about it, only doing my job
Stefan
Global Moderator
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Joined January 2011
Stefan

Kyshiro wrote:

1. Open the editor
2. Select everything (CTRL+A)
3. Move everything forward and back to where it belongs
4. Play it or testplay it
5. ???
6. Profit!
LIFE GOT SENSE NOW
TheVileOne
osu! Alumni
8,436 posts
Joined March 2010
TheVileOne
Explain the issue you are having:
This is probably related to the slider bug, but even if some of the sliders are unloaded when you test, the actual circles which are loaded don't respond to hits. Essentially these maps cannot be played in test mode.


Is it reproducible? If so, explain the steps to do so:

1. Test Taiko specific (needs to have an unloaded slider)
2. Try to hit anything
Kyshiro
Elite Mapper
1,642 posts
Joined January 2011
Kyshiro

Stefan wrote:

Kyshiro wrote:

1. Open the editor
2. Select everything (CTRL+A)
3. Move everything forward and back to where it belongs
4. Play it or testplay it
5. ???
6. Profit!
LIFE GOT SENSE NOW
kd pls
theowest
osu! Alumni
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theowest
t/119764 ?

edit: merged c:
MillhioreF
Pro Tester
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MillhioreF
Drumrolls are sliders. Merged Dolphin's thread with the general thread.
DakeDekaane
osu! Alumni
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DakeDekaane

TheVileOne wrote:

Explain the issue you are having:
This is probably related to the slider bug, but even if some of the sliders are unloaded when you test, the actual circles which are loaded don't respond to hits. Essentially these maps cannot be played in test mode.

Is it reproducible? If so, explain the steps to do so:

1. Test Taiko specific (needs to have an unloaded slider)
2. Try to hit anything
That only happens with maps modified and saved after the last update (in my case)
Also:
- You can't trigger auto while testing.
- Auto mod fails.
There's supposed to be a drumroll after that

I was about to post in another thread, but is highly related to actual sliders behavior, so I put here.
YuuichiYusa
21 posts
Joined January 2011
YuuichiYusa
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2pqAk9ao_hI

So this happens when i download "pending" maps...try to play them and this happens...Not sure what is causing it, and i have tried it with multiple skins, different screen resolutions, etc. Ranked, and approved maps all work perfectly fine. Not sure whats causing this, as i was able to play pending maps before the last few updates.

EDIT: this only happens with pending maps ive downloaded in the last day.
theowest
osu! Alumni
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Joined January 2009
theowest
p/2137539

merging
S o h
Global Moderator
161 posts
Joined January 2013
S o h
I'm also seeing that some sliders in my beatmap that I mapped before the updates became longer than they used to be, some revert back just like the invisible sliders but some of them don't. It also completely broke some of my short repeat sliders.
peppy
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Here since the beginning
peppy
Please update your osu!.
TheVileOne
osu! Alumni
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Joined March 2010
TheVileOne
SPOILER


Taiko specific sliders still seem to be broken.
peppy
19,374 posts
Here since the beginning
peppy
How to replicate this?
TheVileOne
osu! Alumni
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Joined March 2010
TheVileOne
Maybe it's just the taiko test map i made while it was still broken. It never unbroke. Existing sliders seem to work fine.
theowest
osu! Alumni
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Joined January 2009
theowest
all taiko specific sliders seem to work fine for me and millhioreF
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DeletedUser_1133841

Souen- wrote:

I'm also seeing that some sliders in my beatmap that I mapped before the updates became longer than they used to be, some revert back just like the invisible sliders but some of them don't. It also completely broke some of my short repeat sliders.
Mine got shorter! o_o I fixed the ones that it happened to, but about half of what was affected reverted back to how they were before I fixed them, and one even did it a third time. I hadn't left or tested when they did it, too... Just scrolled through to fix them all. They aren't doing it, anymore, though. Happened earlier today.

Souen- wrote:

There's a weird phenomenon where the slider is invisible in the timeline until I approach near the point where the slider is.
Mine's never invisible, unless I'm misunderstanding you, or simply haven't seen it... The timeline knows it's there? It appears like a hitcircle, though. Nowhere to be seen in the editor, but the points appear when I hover where it should be.

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.osu file has the "NaN" thing. X's appear in the top left corner during testing. Restarted osu! (thrice) before posting this.

Edit: Oh, and the majority of the sliders in the map are doing the same as the seventh in the screenshot is.
Van246
82 posts
Joined December 2011
Van246

TheVileOne wrote:

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Taiko specific sliders still seem to be broken.
Im getting this issue on standard map...
The sliders shows as a hitcircle on the time line, is invisble on the grid (besides the points to shape the sliders)
And the game crashes every time i test play, make auto play or play as a person
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