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I will regret downloading this map
The fact that you're right means yeah world's gonna end soon, first time you're not disagreeing with something that is clearly right.Tanzklaue wrote:
that moment when I agree wholeheartidly with wishy.
it really is the worlds end, it seems.
Which is why Cookiezi got like a x5 miss play on Relax@Big Money, single tapping is the problem and I can confirm what BD said.Aqo wrote:
Cookiezi played it relax and the only part he missed on was the part I mentioned as being problematic to read.GoldenWolf wrote:
If you can't read more than 5 objects at once on the screen, then you probably don't have the level required for this map anyway.
Plus the main difficulty of Big Money is the bpm itself and how hard it is to keep the singletap on those jumps, AR is not the issue here.
He clearly had the speed to play a bunch of much harder and more spaced jumps that the map had in a bunch of other parts, and consistently. The only thing that stopped him from FC is the reading part there.
AR *is* the issue.
He got a 1x miss run on relax iirc
Really? The day he got the map he did like x5 or x7 miss on relax iirc didn't know he tried again.
But x1 miss...
...
But x1 miss...
...
He tried again just today. p/1993899
Oh I see, what I watched was before the hard part got nerfed. :c
Macacito wrote:
http://osu.ppy.sh/s/59167
nobody passes it
o_o
Aqo has no excuse for not ssinglolcubes wrote:
Macacito wrote:
http://osu.ppy.sh/s/59167
nobody passes it
o_o
Not like he wouldn't SS at OD9999999999999999999999999999999999
Aqo is better than cookiezi you know.
Wrong that map is actually OD 5999 so you got a single nano second where you can get 300.
ez ssWishy wrote:
Wrong that map is actually OD 5999 so you got a single nano second where you can get 300.
iHateFatPeople_old
she_old
buny is so pro he could SS freedom dive on OD13 but he's not playing it because it's too easy for him
Maybe FREEDOM DiVE [FOUR DIMENSIONS] ?? Those are really godly deathstreams I would say....
It's difficult as all hell, but it's definitely not the hardest beatmap ever.
out of the ranked maps, it actually is.Brian OA wrote:
It's difficult as all hell, but it's definitely not the hardest beatmap ever.
Or so most people would like to think, but evidently, it's not.Tanzklaue wrote:
out of the ranked maps, it actually is.
Atama Nogard is.
No 4d is way harder.Aqo wrote:
Or so most people would like to think, but evidently, it's not.Tanzklaue wrote:
out of the ranked maps, it actually is.
Atama Nogard is.
Difficulty of a map isn't passing it, it's FCing it.jesus1412 wrote:
No 4d is way harder.
compare the amount of FCs on those maps \:D/
then kokou no sousei is also way harder
freedom dive has less nomod passes than atama, it also has lower accuracy on those passes than atama
i would say its harder
hell, happystick passed atama nogard with hardrock, i dont see anybody doing that on freedom dive
freedom dive has less nomod passes than atama, it also has lower accuracy on those passes than atama
i would say its harder
hell, happystick passed atama nogard with hardrock, i dont see anybody doing that on freedom dive
WW also passed atama nogard with HR.silmarilen wrote:
then kokou no sousei is also way harder
freedom dive has less nomod passes than atama, it also has lower accuracy on those passes than atama
i would say its harder
hell, happystick passed atama nogard with hardrock, i dont see anybody doing that on freedom dive
add to that that atama nogard has 2 almost perfect scores in Nikos and Cookiezis records and it gets really clear which is harder.
sousei chaos has that one fullscreen diamond jump in the middle which is the hardest thing that ever got ranked tbhsilmarilen wrote:
then kokou no sousei is also way harder
the fullscreen square in kokou no sousei is a lot easier than mittens imo
Too bad the problem with mittens isn't the size of the squares since the circles themselves are pretty big. They are challenging, but the storyboard is the only issue there.Blue Dragon wrote:
the fullscreen square in kokou no sousei is a lot easier than mittens imo
With regard to atama vs four dimensions, I believe four dimensions is more difficult. Four dimensions is pretty hard to follow already, and requires the most endurance of any ranked map out there. Atama, while technically difficult, can be practiced (mainly doing the squares sections over and over) until you have the muscle memory to pass them. You can just go into the editor and practice those sections individually 20 times over, until you can consistently hit them. You can't just go practice a rough section of four dimensions, because the map is just one giant test of stamina. I think in the long run, four dimensions turns out to be the harder map. Atama feels like it can be practiced and learned, whereas four dimensions is just a test of wills. Not many players are even physically capable of getting a full combo on four dimensions, much less a full combo with 96%+ accuracy, or even 98%+. Sure, maybe there are a select few streaming specialty players out there who can scrape through it with 88-90% acc and a decent combo, but that's not the same as throwing down a convincing replay, making the map look like it's your bitch. Only two players in osu can do that.
I give my nod to Four Dimensions for the current hardest ranked map.
I give my nod to Four Dimensions for the current hardest ranked map.
How is this even a discussion... Freedom Dive is clearly harder than Atama [Nogard]
He probably just BS'd through the map and used a macro on the spam sections
While it's very likely that Millhiore is right, the map is only HP4 so it's possible to pass it with tag tactics.
i.e. plan ahead what circles to ignore and only play parts of that bs pattern which will be just enough to keep yourself alive (every circle is an NC + HP4 = it's enough to even play only half of them. Besides it's only 255bpm jumps, you can just play this normally if you think about it...)
-nevermind just tested-. lol @ notelock. tag tactics don't work
i.e. plan ahead what circles to ignore and only play parts of that bs pattern which will be just enough to keep yourself alive (every circle is an NC + HP4 = it's enough to even play only half of them. Besides it's only 255bpm jumps, you can just play this normally if you think about it...)
-nevermind just tested-. lol @ notelock. tag tactics don't work
it's a hacker, the guy had several bs replays iirc
wizards in winter so hard nobody gets S
I have #18 on that. Does that make me the 18th best osu player?fabriciorby wrote:
wizards in winter so hard nobody gets S
Brb putting myself in top player video.
cookiezi #31 so noob
Utage is theoretically possible - I made a test map for the second spam, and even through notelocking I managed to hit every single red and green note and lived. This was with halftime though, and even then I only manage it one in 30 tries or so - it's more economic at that point to just do it with easy and have a MUCH easier time passing, as well as getting more points.
Clearly Four Dimensions is harder than Atama, though so, let's just don't forget about Miku's Mythologia's End... Cookiezi was ranked #1 on both of the songs, however in comparison of his accuracy on these two songs his hits were more accurate on Four Dimensions. Not tryin' to take Cookiezi as a comparing-mechanism or something but Four Dimensions and Mythologia's End are definitely in the list of god songs in Osu.
That's because you are comparing OD8 with OD9.8.AkoSuminoe wrote:
Clearly Four Dimensions is harder than Atama, though so, let's just don't forget about Miku's Mythologia's End... Cookiezi was ranked #1 on both of the songs, however in comparison of his accuracy on these two songs his hits were more accurate on Four Dimensions. Not tryin' to take Cookiezi as a comparing-mechanism or something but Four Dimensions and Mythologia's End are definitely in the list of god songs in Osu.
cookiezi SSed mythologia's end, as seen on his userpage
Mythologia's End is a scrub-tier map, you're noob if you can't SS
Hardest map is obviously Bill Nye the Science Guy. BILL BILL BILL BILL! Those jumps man.
Utage wa Eien ni [TAG4], Big Money, Hatsune Miku no Shoushitsu (Hommarju Remix) are all up there.
As for legit maps, probably Freedom Dive.
As for legit maps, probably Freedom Dive.
PhiLL A
big money serious map
lulululul
lulululul
Terrible beat is more passable than big money and shoushitsu...PhiLL A wrote:
Big Money, Hatsune Miku no Shoushitsu (Hommarju Remix) are the hardest serious/real maps.
The hardest joke map which is still playable would be Shade - Terrible Beat.
i think he meant as maps that have some kind of structure instead of 1/2 spam all over the screenbuny wrote:
big money serious map
lulululul
Terrible Beat has structure ;w;
it's also not hard because of 1/2s, or circles for that matter
it's also a terrible beatmap
it's also not hard because of 1/2s, or circles for that matter
it's also a terrible beatmap
isn't that what big money is? just 1/2 all over the place in the most impossible and frustrating patterns possible, only to be interrupted by 1/4 at 280 BPM?Blue Dragon wrote:
i think he meant as maps that have some kind of structure instead of 1/2 spam all over the screenbuny wrote:
big money serious map
lulululul
That's just retarded. Big Money has a lot of patterns and structure. Just because it's hard, doesn't mean it's just spam.Tanzklaue wrote:
isn't that what big money is? just 1/2 all over the place in the most impossible and frustrating patterns possible, only to be interrupted by 1/4 at 280 BPM?Blue Dragon wrote:
i think he meant as maps that have some kind of structure instead of 1/2 spam all over the screen
Thing is it's not considered a serious map by many since you made it pretty much cause Cookiezi wanted something hard.
Airman: 200 BPM map with lots of huge and hard to follow (snap requiring) jumps. Fun map even for mid-level players.Blue Dragon wrote:
That's just retarded. Big Money has a lot of patterns and structure. Just because it's hard, doesn't mean it's just spam.
MLP gay rainbow dash map: Lots of short-to-mid 220 BPM jumps, lots of hard patterns but overall under the realm of things considered doable in this game. Lots of snapping required. Fun map for fast players.
Atama no something [Nogard]: Lots of mid 240bpm jumps. Low OD. Short. Intuitive patterns. Fun for most players provided they can single tap 240 bpm.
Big money: Garbled mess of 1/4 140 bpm mid-to-high distance jumps. Ridiculous patterns. Streams may require tap + K2. Hard to read even on max AR.
wow that didn't escalate quickly at all bruh
Blue Dragon wrote:
i think he meant as maps that have some kind of structure instead of 1/2 spam all over the screenbuny wrote:
big money serious map
lulululul
By structure I mean patterns - actual thought-out-by-the-mapper maps, and not 1/2 spam over the screen like Anti You or G-Garden that are simply jump-all-over-non-stop.
this is trueBlue Dragon wrote:
By structure I mean patterns - actual thought-out-by-the-mapper maps, and not 1/2 spam over the screen like Anti You or G-Garden that are simply jump-all-over-non-stop.
keep in mind the song IS 280 bpm and is supposed to be hard
the jumps in anti you don't make sense
g-garden just looks like crap
there is a slight difference between hard and "TORNADO SQUAREs HUEHUE BRBRBRBR"-retardedness.buny wrote:
this is trueBlue Dragon wrote:
By structure I mean patterns - actual thought-out-by-the-mapper maps, and not 1/2 spam over the screen like Anti You or G-Garden that are simply jump-all-over-non-stop.
keep in mind the song IS 280 bpm and is supposed to be hard
physical limitation isn't an excuse to call a map bad
i'd much prefer tornado squares (actually love how these patterns stand out + the feeling of hitting them) over full screen jumps that don't flow with the song
i'd much prefer tornado squares (actually love how these patterns stand out + the feeling of hitting them) over full screen jumps that don't flow with the song
so by your amazing logic, you mean this:Tanzklaue wrote:
there is a slight difference between hard and "TORNADO SQUAREs HUEHUE BRBRBRBR"-retardedness.buny wrote:
this is true
keep in mind the song IS 280 bpm and is supposed to be hard
is the same as this:
lol'd
Thing is even maps like Gotsta Terrify [0108] have structure and stuff and I'd dare to say they play fine (with the song) yet they are so hard that people can't properly feel that so they call them joke maps.
Nevertheless having patterns on a map that you made just because you wanted something hard doesn't mean it has structure. Not referring to Big Money but overall, Shoushitsu does not have random 1/2 jumps but patterns all over the map so we might as well say that's a proper map with patterns that were thoughout by the mapper.
Nevertheless having patterns on a map that you made just because you wanted something hard doesn't mean it has structure. Not referring to Big Money but overall, Shoushitsu does not have random 1/2 jumps but patterns all over the map so we might as well say that's a proper map with patterns that were thoughout by the mapper.
lol'dPurple wrote:
Atama no something [Nogard]: Lots of mid 240bpm jumps. Low OD. Short. Intuitive patterns. Fun for most players provided they can single tap 240 bpm.
people should just stop talking about maps they didn't actually try playing
if by current standards aesthetic equals structure then you get into a very complex opinionated situation where you can't really define what's structure or not since everybody has a different idea of what's aesthetic. Why not instead use connection between the song and the map to define whether it has structure? Rather than saying anti you lacks structure since the object placement is ugly and the antijumps are annoying to play, say that it lacks structure since the spacing style is completely random and doesn't follow any of the song's rhythms or even stanza spread consistency.
Shoushitsu's object timing nor object placement follows anything in the song other than the bpm itself, by this logic it's a shitmap. Whether you find the patterns on it consistent or aesthetic, they follow nothing in the song. Big Money, for the most part, does follow the song with the timestamps, and has a pattern spacing design that is consistent with stanzas in the song, so with the same logic it's not a shitmap but rather a "very hard map".
Gotsta might have consistent parts in it, but I'm pretty sure it's just because val used copypaste while making it. He was probably laughing during the entire creation of that map.
SPOILER
plz add my diff.but...
this is unrankable map.
you can deleate it if rank this map!!(other my diff)
thank you and goodluck x))
this is unrankable map.
you can deleate it if rank this map!!(other my diff)
thank you and goodluck x))
shoushitsu does follow the song though
Its a fun map but Aqo doesn't like fun.buny wrote:
shoushitsu does follow the song though
Where does the song have 1/4 streams sorry is my hearing badbuny wrote:
shoushitsu does follow the song though
00:39:250 (5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16,17,18,19,20)
not even going to bother. pls stahp
Pretty much all streams and triples are overmap why are you complaining about that.
http://osu.ppy.sh/s/69685 ? Although pretty much ridiculous for me
I slowed it down to 25% in editor and actually CAN hear the beat, and the streams sound appropriate too.
There is no beat on the part that I linked, don't make things upbuny wrote:
I slowed it down to 25% in editor and actually CAN hear the beat, and the streams sound appropriate too.
Sounds fine here too.
You asked if your hearing was bad
It is
It is
https://osu.ppy.sh/s/13051 is harderWishy wrote:
https://osu.ppy.sh/s/29371
but there is a difference between hard and impossible
minor details
You are right that's the hardest map, sorry.
Shuriken_old_1
Yeah... I remember when I fced 4d, still can't pass big black thoughShuriken wrote:
Ranked: https://osu.ppy.sh/s/41823
Gameplay:
Unranked:https://osu.ppy.sh/s/17380
Gameplay:
(((the big black is no where near hardest since it has such a low drain
its incredibly hard to fc but relatively easy to pass
then again same can be said about airman
and cirno tag4 (which is apparently harder than all three of those since Cookiezi FC'd them but not this)
Soarezi
You're right about it being harder, but is it even a map? xoMillhioreF wrote:
and cirno tag4 (which is apparently harder than all three of those since Cookiezi FC'd them but not this)
This thread has become at this point a very philosophical (lol) debate about "what is a map" (should Tag4 even count? It wasn't made to be played by one person to begin with) and "what do you go by for -hard-" (hard to pass with default settings? hard to pass with HP7? hard to FC with retries? hard to FC in an average play? hard to SS? hard to SS on OD10?)
Since every combination of answers to these questions results in a different "hardest" map.
Why not just go into edit, open a random song, put 10000bpm, put a long slider, use the convert slider to stream tool, and post it here ;w; it's just as good as anything people were linking in the last few pages. (maybe lock?)
it is a beatmap because it is a beatmap
Oh, are we counting unranked maps now? Then this one wins. http://osu.ppy.sh/s/44126
Big money 
There's a threshold where all beatmaps are equally hard. I think that comes when you put 10+ circles offscreen at HP10. If you're gonna count unranked maps, I think that one wins for sure (as well as any similar map)
val0108's [My Art] on Scarlet Rose is obviously the hardest map ever
even tom's diffcalc agrees
even tom's diffcalc agrees
Chocobo, while really hard, has been SS'd multiple times. Wouldn't be close to one of the hardest.Awoken- wrote:
TAG4 maps and Chocobo (Gold)?
According to tom's diffcalc, hardest map would be Radio Free Zerg - High TemplarRLC wrote:
val0108's [My Art] on Scarlet Rose is obviously the hardest map ever
even tom's diffcalc agrees
On the normal version of the calc that is locked at difficulty 9000, all of those are paired. But on the version without the limiter, lewatuuba wins with an outstanding difficulty level that cuts through skies with the power of a thousand suns.GoldenWolf wrote:
According to tom's diffcalc, hardest map would be Radio Free Zerg - High Templar
Lewa is a sexy monster, you know this.
i bet a lot more people can pass most of the maps posted here than people who can pass freedom dive
there we have it
there we have it
scarlet rose and big black O_O 
Top-tip: ctrl+c copies difficulty info into your clipboard. And this is not capped by anything, only the GUI display is. (Despite all diffs over 9000 getting displayed the same way they are still sorted correctly.)Aqo wrote:
On the normal version of the calc that is locked at difficulty 9000, all of those are paired. But on the version without the limiter, lewatuuba wins with an outstanding difficulty level that cuts through skies with the power of a thousand suns.GoldenWolf wrote:
According to tom's diffcalc, hardest map would be Radio Free Zerg - High Templar
Lewa is a sexy monster, you know this.
8441able, definitely
because snapping is relatively easy and keeping a consistent flow at superhigh pace is just way harder
once you're out, you're out - pattern and game
*poofs*
because snapping is relatively easy and keeping a consistent flow at superhigh pace is just way harder
once you're out, you're out - pattern and game
*poofs*
Ok I don't even get this one, people consider scarlet rose hard at all?Feel The Wind wrote:
scarlet rose and big black O_O
It seems like there's a correlation between when people first discover BPM sorting and between when they discover this thread.jesus1412 wrote:
Ok I don't even get this one, people consider scarlet rose hard at all?
scarlet rose hard
If you can singletap 320 bpm, it's not hard. If you can't, it's hard.jesus1412 wrote:
Ok I don't even get this one, people consider scarlet rose hard at all?Feel The Wind wrote:
scarlet rose and big black O_O
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