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tyrael6192
most melees can't stand toe to toe with garen; just run in with your silence, then spin on top of them and back out. if they're smart they'll trade back once your abilities are down, so you'll have to watch out. But most of the time, it's rinse and repeat and then go in with ult ignite for the kill.
Justykanna

noneed wrote:

Haven't played Garen in a long time but I think nothing has changed much about him. Your priority should be R>E>Q>W and starting with Q. For Build you can make the best use of Warmogs, Sunfire's, Black Cleaver, Runic Bulwark, situational boots and as the last item really anything big and expensive. You can replace Black Cleaver with Ghostblade if you like it more and if somebody already has Runic on your team you should probably go for Randuin's Omen.
Looks like I have my priority for skills right. Been switching between Q and E for my first skill but never saw a noticeable difference.
More tanky than damage dealing from the looks of what you've got there. Omen's probably one of my favourite items, it just has zero killing power.
Black Cleaver I haven't been using only because other ADs on my team almost always use it. Still worth the money?

tyrael6192 wrote:

most melees can't stand toe to toe with garen; just run in with your silence, then spin on top of them and back out. if they're smart they'll trade back once your abilities are down, so you'll have to watch out. But most of the time, it's rinse and repeat and then go in with ult ignite for the kill.
Even in team fights? I'm having team members that want me to stay in there as long as I can without my health dipping below a low amount (ie: stay in there even with Q and E on cooldown).
I love my R, I just don't like stealing kills from people like carries who probably need them more than a bruiser like me.
tyrael6192
I mean in 1v1 duels and trades in top lane. Once you get tanky though, it's ok to stay in teamfights and act as a front like and protect your carries. Also garen carries pretty hard himself mid-game, so don't be afraid of taking a few kills here and there... into lategame you become mostly a damage-soak, so at that point you don't really need any more kills
Justykanna

tyrael6192 wrote:

I mean in 1v1 duels and trades in top lane. Once you get tanky though, it's ok to stay in teamfights and act as a front like and protect your carries. Also garen carries pretty hard himself mid-game, so don't be afraid of taking a few kills here and there... into lategame you become mostly a damage-soak, so at that point you don't really need any more kills
Noted.
It's odd, because I am pretty sure I'm doing everything that people have told me, save for a few build things, and I'm being told I am not good at him. I'm trying to figure out if people are hating the character, or me, now. >_>
Asada Shino

Justykanna wrote:

noneed wrote:

Haven't played Garen in a long time but I think nothing has changed much about him. Your priority should be R>E>Q>W and starting with Q. For Build you can make the best use of Warmogs, Sunfire's, Black Cleaver, Runic Bulwark, situational boots and as the last item really anything big and expensive. You can replace Black Cleaver with Ghostblade if you like it more and if somebody already has Runic on your team you should probably go for Randuin's Omen.
Looks like I have my priority for skills right. Been switching between Q and E for my first skill but never saw a noticeable difference.
More tanky than damage dealing from the looks of what you've got there. Omen's probably one of my favourite items, it just has zero killing power.
Black Cleaver I haven't been using only because other ADs on my team almost always use it. Still worth the money?
Brutalizer has always been a strong top lane item, and the S3 change to Black Cleaver makes it into one of the best snowball items if you get an early lead. If you feel you need to be more tanky you can just build Brutalizer for damage then tanky as you see fit and later on sell your Brutalizer for Last Whisper.
Fleia
Brutaliser is still pretty much worth it and its the core for most bruiser top
Hakeru
those
Cool Nami buff
Cool Will of the Ancients recipe
Quaraezha
Thinking of playing this game soon.
Although my computer's shitty and I'm not confident if I can run it

2.0GHz Processor
2GB RAM
128MB Video Card
noneed_old

Quaraezha wrote:

Thinking of playing this game soon.
Although my computer's shitty and I'm not confident if I can run it

2.0GHz Processor
2GB RAM
128MB Video Card
ur good to go on low settings.
altough I am not too sure about cpu speed. 2.0 is the minimum if I recall correctly. you should prolly check it on: http://www.systemrequirementslab.com/CYRI/
Quaraezha

noneed wrote:

Quaraezha wrote:

Thinking of playing this game soon.
Although my computer's shitty and I'm not confident if I can run it

2.0GHz Processor
2GB RAM
128MB Video Card
ur good to go on low settings.
altough I am not too sure about cpu speed. 2.0 is the minimum if I recall correctly. you should prolly check it on: http://www.systemrequirementslab.com/CYRI/
2.0 is minimum, 3.0 Recommended.
Guess I can try it out on Lowest Settings.
How big is the game itself?
noneed_old
almost 3GB I think.
Sync
you can definitely run it

Diana is finally getting fixed after they severely fucked her w~

Incinerate
Targeting cone is now attached to Annie

Feral Scream
Targeting cone is now attached to Cho'Gath

Siphon of Destruction
Targeting cone is now attached to Mordekaiser


finally, hated how these spells functioned
Synchrostar
Annie visual update<3
Keyboard Cat_old
lol needs a new carry
Justykanna

Asada Shino wrote:

Brutalizer has always been a strong top lane item, and the S3 change to Black Cleaver makes it into one of the best snowball items if you get an early lead. If you feel you need to be more tanky you can just build Brutalizer for damage then tanky as you see fit and later on sell your Brutalizer for Last Whisper.
Righto. Thanks for the help!
Now to learn more champions so that I don't have to use Geran every PvP match...
Effy
One thing to say, Teemo top counter all. o/
Justykanna

Synchrostar wrote:

Annie visual update<3
Not sure I like it, personally. Just makes her look older, lol.
Vulf
I don't know why annie got her VU over Sion and Sivir. I know riot plans on upgrading all the original 40, but Annie didn't need it as bad as Sion, Sivir, Master Yi, Anivia and Nasus just naming a few. =\
noneed_old

Vulf wrote:

I don't know why annie got her VU over Sion and Sivir. I know riot plans on upgrading all the original 40, but Annie didn't need it as bad as Sion, Sivir, Master Yi, Anivia and Nasus just naming a few. =\
Mainly to attract people to play her. The day Nidalee got her visual upgrade her pick rate doubled. They want people to try Annie again and see for themselves whether she is still any good in League of Gapclosers. I believe she certainly is. While on the other hand, giving a visual upgrade to Sion will only show us how shit he is.
Igotbutts


0:58 I freaking had an orgasm
Vulf

noneed wrote:

Vulf wrote:

I don't know why annie got her VU over Sion and Sivir. I know riot plans on upgrading all the original 40, but Annie didn't need it as bad as Sion, Sivir, Master Yi, Anivia and Nasus just naming a few. =\
Mainly to attract people to play her. The day Nidalee got her visual upgrade her pick rate doubled. They want people to try Annie again and see for themselves whether she is still any good in League of Gapclosers. I believe she certainly is. While on the other hand, giving a visual upgrade to Sion will only show us how shit he is.
See this really bothers me. I really wish they would fix champions like Sion, Urgot, and Warwick instead of leaving them there to rot forever. Diana and Rengar got over nerfed and were instantly buffed the next patch. Eve was nerfed really hard this patch but i'm sure she will be fixed the next patch.

Sion simply fell out of the meta and could use a rework. Warwick got nerfed then they kept indirectly nerfing him patch after patch (also his kit is outdated).
noneed_old
Urgot is totally fine. Still a pretty solid pick for arranged 5s and in solo queue I'd rather play him in a sololane. Muramane and Black Cleaver are amazing on him and since HP stacking is the thing right now a Warmog's on him is amazing as well. But yea, still too many old champions who just can't keep up once the meta shifts a bit.
Vulf
I personally think they over nerfed him. He needed to be nerfed, but not that bad lol.

I'm just really upset with the state of the game right now. As much as i hate to say it I prefer s2 at this point lol. Then again it's only the preseason a lot can change these next couple of weeks.
Stefan


I. LOVE. ANNIE. SUPPORT.

Ult with Passive on five enemies seems to be stronk and efficient.
threenash
Justykanna

Stefan wrote:

I. LOVE. ANNIE. SUPPORT.
Lawl. My sister in law plays Annie as a support. Absolutly controls the scoreboard as far as assists go.
JesusYamato
Shiro
for fuck's sake turntheslayer I saw you on Wickd's stream, I would ABSOLUTELY LOVE TO PLAY WITH OR AGAINST WICKD OR OCELOTE, STOP FLAMING for the love of god, you just flame your teammates who don't perform well and you mock opponents that don't do well either, playing with you doesn't look enjoyable at all.

/rant

Quaraezha wrote:

Thinking of playing this game soon.
Although my computer's shitty and I'm not confident if I can run it

2.0GHz Processor
2GB RAM
128MB Video Card
Don't. I have these settings on this old computer (because mine broke, blabla), I get 12fps at the best times, 2fps for teamfights, it's completely UNPLAYABLE.
Stefan
@Ouariasse: I wonder if Nunu would be dead by Cait's Ult.
those
After Karthus (R), which champion is the next "press a button and win"?
South
darius r
JesusYamato

those wrote:

After Karthus (R), which champion is the next "press a button and win"?
Ryze is smash your keyboard and win
Stefan

those wrote:

After Karthus (R), which champion is the next "press a button and win"?
AP Amumu's Ult
Asada Shino

those wrote:

After Karthus (R), which champion is the next "press a button and win"?
Vulf

Ouariasse wrote:

those wrote:

After Karthus (R), which champion is the next "press a button and win"?
Ryze is smash your keyboard and win
Add Eve and Diana to that list. lol
Effy

Vulf wrote:

Add Eve and Diana to that list. lol

True story
eusiphera
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JesusYamato

Just when i found out how to make kat even more teamfight efficient by rushing sunfire cape they're nerfing both sunfire and kat.
herp derp
hp was overpowered though so no wonder.
Glass
>no warmog

DO U EVEN SEASON 3
Vulf
It's riots fault for nerfing every armor and MR item, and removing the only HP stacking counter from the game. Instead of removing bloodrazor from the game why didn't they fix it? Instead they added 2 lackluster items that do not do much due to scaling off current health not max like MBR.
Yapa_old_1

those wrote:

After Karthus (R), which champion is the next "press a button and win"?

Liut

Yapi wrote:

those wrote:

After Karthus (R), which champion is the next "press a button and win"?

I hate Zyra >.>

[OT]Are you by any chance that Yapa from Morrighan server? D:[/OT]
noneed_old

Ouariasse wrote:


Just when i found out how to make kat even more teamfight efficient by rushing sunfire cape they're nerfing both sunfire and kat.
herp derp
hp was overpowered though so no wonder.
>Just when I found out
more like "Just when I saw Voyboy doing it...."
KRZY

noneed wrote:

Ouariasse wrote:


Just when i found out how to make kat even more teamfight efficient by rushing sunfire cape they're nerfing both sunfire and kat.
herp derp
hp was overpowered though so no wonder.
>Just when I found out
more like "Just when I saw Voyboy doing it...."
lol
Cyclone
People keep questioning my amumu build. I'm still not sure why.

those
Tear and Chalice together are redundant, for a start?
Vulf
The only time you should have mana issues with mummy is if the first blue gets stolen.

If your fed enough you can build pretty much anything lol
Yapa_old_1

Vulf wrote:

The only time you should have mana issues with mummy is if the first blue gets stolen.

If your fed enough you can build pretty much anything lol
Still i think that Spirit of the Ancient Golem and Sunfire Cape(AD Heavy)/Abyssal Scepter(AP Heavy) are core items for that litte lonely boy.
noneed_old

Cyclone wrote:

People keep questioning my amumu build. I'm still not sure why.

Because you basically waste roughly 1.5k on useless shit? Winning a game at 1200 doesnt prove the point that Tears and Chalice are good on Amumu...
Cleatis

those wrote:

Tear and Chalice together are redundant, for a start?
This. Do you always want to sit at full mana? I like to go tanky as amumu and just let tears do their work, but it really doesn't take all that mana. It'd be better to spend the money on more tankiness in my opinion.
Cyclone
Man you guys are the worst. Next item would have been Seraph's. Which means, yes i always want to be at full mana for a full shield.
Vulf
Warmogs gives you 1000 health and cost less than that item. You would have to have over 4000 mana to beat that with seraphs (which is a 3 second shield).
Cyclone
But I get some damage out of it as well. Plus I have had mana problems, since I actually farm my jungle instead of just camping lanes. I build some early mana regen to counter that, and they just happen to lead into these items. The tear was more of a joke to begin with, but i've had a lot of success with it, for whatever reason, so I keep building it.

I could probably go without the tear for sure, but the chalice is just too good.
Vulf
You really shouldn't have any mana issues with him regardless if your camping lanes or not. D:

Philostone should suffice enough for mana regen, and also builds into (Shurelya's Reverie) a team item mid to late game. Frozen heart, and Banshees Veil give a good chunk of mana, and are very strong items on him.
Cyclone
I would just like to end this by saying I will keep all of this in mind. (Except for you noneed. You're just an ass.) Until my build fails me I will probably keep using it. It's had a surprising success rate so far.
noneed_old

Cyclone wrote:

... I'm still not sure why.
Just anwered your question m8. The reasons why it's so useless are stated above. But yea, you should keep going for it until it doesn't work anymore. That's also a way to get better
Kalle_old_1
I really like how Thresh's mechanics look.
those
He seems like an interesting champion with position shifters, but I'm not so sure how it's viable yet.
noneed_old
Very high skillcap on the pull thingy but the plays you can make with it seem so amazing.
Yapa_old_1

noneed wrote:

Very high skillcap on the pull thingy but the plays you can make with it seem so amazing.
I had change to test it on PBE.
It used to work with Skarner's ult and Blitzcrank grab what could make insane grabs and pull offs. Sadly, you can't click lantern while doing this anymore.
those

Yapi wrote:

noneed wrote:

Very high skillcap on the pull thingy but the plays you can make with it seem so amazing.
I had change to test it on PBE.
It used to work with Skarner's ult and Blitzcrank grab what could make insane grabs and pull offs. Sadly, you can't click lantern while doing this anymore.
Just like how Flash on Skarner Ult used to work.
noneed_old

Yapi wrote:

noneed wrote:

Very high skillcap on the pull thingy but the plays you can make with it seem so amazing.
I had change to test it on PBE.
It used to work with Skarner's ult and Blitzcrank grab what could make insane grabs and pull offs. Sadly, you can't click lantern while doing this anymore.
Don't think that Skarner would have pulled some kind of comeback with Thresh only and having Blitz and Thresh in the same team leaves you with two support champs. I'm just thinking competetively about the skill, how you can make it work in a normal team composition. And lane ganking seems so ridiculously strong when you Lantern Flash and your Jungler flashes afterwards. You basically move roughly 2k(?) units with it within a second catching any kind of AD off guard.
Asada Shino

noneed wrote:

You basically move roughly 2k(?) units with it within a second catching any kind of AD off guard.
Cait level 1 ult is 2k so that looks about right. It might as well be noc ult as a normal ability + any gap closers the ganker may have + flash
noneed_old
Weekly reminder for you guys to join the osu! chatroom in EUW or just to make one in your own server. Playing games with each other is just easier that way.

For those who don't know how to join a chatroom:
-At the bottom right there are 3 boxes.
-Click on the one in the middle which says "View your Chatrooms Control Panel"
-A new window should appear which has a little "+" at the bottom of it.
-Simply click on it and type in "osu!".
-And if you are already at it, click on the the wheel at the top right of the chatroom and tick "Autojoin on Startup" there.

You can join any chatrooms that way like more active ones(/v/, /vg/, reddit, PlayWithRiot...) whatever you prefer, or just make your own for yourself and your friends.
Justykanna

noneed wrote:

Weekly reminder for you guys to join the osu! chatroom in EUW or just to make one in your own server. Playing games with each other is just easier that way.
I should check one of those out one of these days... lol.
aggums
I'm in the osu! chatroom and I assume there are usually more than 4 people online?
Raikaria
I'll just post that I play on EUW as wel. I play a good variety of champions, and all roles, jack of all trades, although I consider my main role to be jungle, and my main champion to be Maokai when I'm serious [Rarely]

I alsoplay non-standard things. Like AP Hecarim and Support Swain in normals when I'm derping around. And yes both work.
noneed_old
Guess we're lucky today. Literally ten times the talking in the chatroom than ever together, lel.
aggums
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Yapa_old_1

noneed wrote:

Guess we're lucky today. Literally ten times the talking in the chatroom than ever together, lel.
love love i would say
aggums

Yapi wrote:

noneed wrote:

Guess we're lucky today. Literally ten times the talking in the chatroom than ever together, lel.
love love i would say
Hey, it's better than nothing.
Vulf
I miss playing galio. :(

brikepicness
Talking about league, so how do you guys think about S3 right now?
those
Don't like the meta, don't like the way penetration works, but...

I AM SUPPORT
South
>best mid NA<
Asada Shino

those wrote:

Don't like the meta, don't like the way penetration works, but...

I AM SUPPORT


I think this is their way of trying to help against AD mids, thoughts anyone? I think it'll make the lane more manageable, not sure how it'll affect this:



My guess is that it means that the AD will have to commit more in trades
Vulf
I'm really disappointed with it so far. Season 2 was kinda bad but season 3 is a lot worse.
YunoGaming
<- joined the osu! chatroom on EUW^.^
brikepicness

those wrote:

Don't like the meta, don't like the way penetration works, but...

I AM SUPPORT

True, support just got much more fun in S3 - it's easier to get more gold now :D
JesusYamato
S3 made it easier to carry 1vs5 if you know how to play assassins
Kanye West

Vulf wrote:

I'm really disappointed with it so far. Season 2 was kinda bad but season 3 is a lot worse.
QFT

We should just go back to S1.
tyrael6192
here's a khazix sketch for this threadbecause hes op as fuck

aggums
I've suddenly become horrendously bad at League. I blame osu!.
Vulf

Ouariasse wrote:

S3 made it easier to carry 1vs5 if you know how to play assassins
Won't last very long. They are all getting nerfed one by one. Only one who probably won't get touched will be Leblanc for obvious reasons.
Skywards_old
i enjoyed s2 more than s3. But i can still deal with s3. I do love some the new items there out in s3 Beside sightstone.
Now adc are starting to build black cleaver now. Mostly MF is building black cleaver now.
those

Skywards wrote:

Mostly MF is building black cleaver now.
She's very much like an AD caster, is why.
pielak213
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aggums
Xanaehla
Annie and her bear Tibbers is still my favorite champ :3
Hakeru

_agm wrote:

the enemy tresh is like "...where's my teammate"
that's a good combination for tresh
Stefan

Xanaehla wrote:

Annie and her bear Tibbers is still my favorite champ :3
I love her. <3
Yapa_old_1

Xanaehla wrote:

Annie and her bear Tibbers is still my favorite champ :3
We'll bang, k?




Stefan

Yapi wrote:

Xanaehla wrote:

Annie and her bear Tibbers is still my favorite champ :3
We'll bang, k?

.... GOD DAMN, why do you remember me on a special picture... WHY WHY WHY D:
Kim Ryu
Agnes

those wrote:

Don't like the meta, don't like the way penetration works, but...

I AM SUPPORT
Supporting got really fuckin' awkward for me in S3. In S2, I was just chilling around, healing/shielding and whatnot. Now in S3, it's just like I can carry a single game with Sona and make the enemy team ragequit hard.

*disclaimer: this is only if they don't build any magic resist and/or are very stupid
Jenny
^that's how it always has been tho
Vulf
The support role got a lot more interesting with season 3. Probably one of the only good things to happen lol
Panic Attack_old

Vulf wrote:

The support role got a lot more interesting with season 3. Probably one of the only good things to happen lol
I also like the changes in the jungle. I've been playing fiddle / xin a lot more now.
noneed_old
trash confirmed redonkulously retarded
broken/10 banevrygam
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