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noneed_old
546 posts
Joined April 2010
noneed_old
Bjergsen: "Urgh, who's playing the Kayle? Oh it's TurnTheSlayer, yea, he is a flamer, he flames a lot..."

Aw, thats sad bro, the times I played with bjergsen he was quite nice and played an amazing fiddle and lux support. So I don't think he talks shit or lies on stream. Flame less dude! Enjoy this shit game more
tyrael6192
706 posts
Joined October 2010
tyrael6192

noneed wrote:

Enjoy this shit game more
riot's campaign motto 2013
noneed_old
546 posts
Joined April 2010
noneed_old

tyrael6192 wrote:

noneed wrote:

Enjoy this shit game more
riot's campaign motto 2013
it shouldn't be, you have great fun playing premades with your friends especially when you aren't taking it serious at all.
ranked on the other hand , especially at higher elo, is just filled with players who know each other and obv troll and dick around, not even looking for a somewhat competetive game and obviously the incredible small amount of players who actually just want a better rating like reverselight get frustrated over that. solo queue is just tocix, don't know how it is at lower elo but at higher it just that 1 guy tryharding like his live depends on the game and going verbally nuts while the rest just tries to have a fun time.
Shiro
Global Moderator
4,984 posts
Joined May 2009
Shiro

noneed wrote:

it shouldn't be, you have great fun playing premades with your friends especially when you aren't taking it serious at all.
ranked on the other hand , especially at higher elo, is just filled with players who know each other and obv troll and dick around, not even looking for a somewhat competetive game and obviously the incredible small amount of players who actually just want a better rating like reverselight get frustrated over that. solo queue is just tocix, don't know how it is at lower elo but at higher it just that 1 guy tryharding like his live depends on the game and going verbally nuts while the rest just tries to have a fun time.
I so agree. I don't even play alone anymore because it's just too frustrating and absolutely not enjoyable, but playing with people I know makes the game incomparatively better. Just because we know one another and are just having fun. Sometimes shit happens, we lose etc, but hell it was just funny.
GeeNX
1,081 posts
Joined June 2012
GeeNX
noneed give me lessons! xD

EDIT: I sometimes dont care losing games, I just have a lot of fun, totally truth
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league of legends op, draven op, im op
GeeNX
1,081 posts
Joined June 2012
GeeNX
league of draven*
UnderminE
osu! Alumni
4,011 posts
Joined August 2010
UnderminE
league of not draven, draaaaven*
GeeNX
1,081 posts
Joined June 2012
GeeNX
Actually when you choose draven is

"Welcome to League of ....Draven"
UnderminE
osu! Alumni
4,011 posts
Joined August 2010
UnderminE
jokes you know
GeeNX
1,081 posts
Joined June 2012
GeeNX
Draven doesn't know jokes, he's overpowered, and he's one of the manliest in LoL
UnderminE
osu! Alumni
4,011 posts
Joined August 2010
UnderminE


Jokes I said.
GeeNX
1,081 posts
Joined June 2012
GeeNX
Ahri can charm him too easy.

I have serious doubts about this, Ahri charms with the heart by using E, or just by her boobs?
UnderminE
osu! Alumni
4,011 posts
Joined August 2010
UnderminE
Because Ahri ><

Ahriiiiiiiiiii
GeeNX
1,081 posts
Joined June 2012
GeeNX
Sona > Ahri

If you know what I mean
UnderminE
osu! Alumni
4,011 posts
Joined August 2010
UnderminE
I don't know that's why Ahri > everything hehe
GeeNX
1,081 posts
Joined June 2012
GeeNX
Check "Sona pentakill" hehe Sona >
UnderminE
osu! Alumni
4,011 posts
Joined August 2010
UnderminE
Who cares about the skillz, Ahri is beutfol
GeeNX
1,081 posts
Joined June 2012
GeeNX
You didnt get it yet ;_; JUST GOOGLE IT
UnderminE
osu! Alumni
4,011 posts
Joined August 2010
UnderminE
NOTHING SPECIAL MEH
The Big Heck
2 posts
Joined August 2012
The Big Heck
I have been enjoying the League of Cleavers lately .-.
noneed_old
546 posts
Joined April 2010
noneed_old

Kanin51 wrote:

I have been enjoying the League of Cleavers lately .-.
ur 2 weeks late
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UnderminE wrote:



Jokes I said.
hahaa rlly funny hahAhaHA dRaaAAAaaAaAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaAAAAAAAaAaAaAven
tyrael6192
706 posts
Joined October 2010
tyrael6192
wow miney for a second i thought you played league damn

but then no
JesusYamato
247 posts
Joined April 2012
JesusYamato
I'm leveling my EUW account to 30, if anyone wanna play just add me (Waryas)
I have 4000+ games on NA btw and currently 1430 elo
Shiro
Global Moderator
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Joined May 2009
Shiro

Ouariasse wrote:

I'm leveling my EUW account to 30, if anyone wanna play just add me (Waryas)
I have 4000+ games on NA btw and currently 1430 elo
I'm interested, I want to level my main EU to 30 too, but solo games are terribly boring
UnderminE
osu! Alumni
4,011 posts
Joined August 2010
UnderminE

tyrael6192 wrote:

wow miney for a second i thought you played league damn

but then no
Too tiring for me.
MouseOnly25
MouseOnly25
buy wards, we need wards !
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Shiro
Global Moderator
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Shiro
is it me or is vs AI bugged atm ? when I want to play vs AI it just matches me against players, wtf
Glass
1,522 posts
Joined January 2010
Glass

Shiro wrote:

is it me or is vs AI bugged atm ? when I want to play vs AI it just matches me against players, wtf
it shows 10 players ready but when you get into the lobby it's against bots
Shiro
Global Moderator
4,984 posts
Joined May 2009
Shiro
I was told so in #osu and tested, indeed it worked, wtf is that bug though ?

First time renek: penta kill \:D/ I'm liking renek and riven, I might play them (along with my irelia wukong cho'gath)
Haseo_old
742 posts
Joined May 2011
Haseo_old


First try on Dominion with my main c:
tyrael6192
706 posts
Joined October 2010
tyrael6192
what's dominion
pielak213
463 posts
Joined April 2010
pielak213
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ReverseLight
197 posts
Joined July 2012
ReverseLight
well
though my plan to get 2400 will succeed but no , just 1 fcking game to 2400 and then something goes wrong XDDDDDDDDDDDDD
South
201 posts
Joined July 2012
South
people need to play viktor more. hes so good ._.
Justykanna
1,090 posts
Joined April 2011
Justykanna
I just picked up Renekton and love him for his stun.

Glass wrote:

it shows 10 players ready but when you get into the lobby it's against bots
Yeah, I'm getting that too. Confused me.

KingFloyd wrote:

people need to play viktor more. hes so good ._.
Haha, my sister in law played him once and really liked him. So now she's saving up points for him.
Aoriki
778 posts
Joined February 2011
Aoriki
I freak out when I went to play against bots to try out a new champ I just bought and I thought I accidentally choice PVP cause it shows 10 players.
Wow, who thought of that.
South
201 posts
Joined July 2012
South
elo hell is pretty brutal today, lost 150 elo :/
Vulf
17 posts
Joined November 2009
Vulf
You can always look at the bottom left in champion select to make sure you really are playing an AI game. xD
those
3,135 posts
Joined November 2010
those
Anyone got a good Zilean support build? Rune suggest?
Asada Shino
11 posts
Joined November 2012
Asada Shino

those wrote:

Anyone got a good Zilean support build? Rune suggest?
I wouldn't recommend Zilean support, your bombs will push the lane too much and you may accidentally steal cs. Against semi-competent people, they will walk the bombs into their own minions to force the lane on their side which is not favourable to you most of the time. Also, shield supports are a big counter as they will shield every bomb, taking very little to no damage. Play him as a mid, he hits hard and his ulti will be far more useful with more AP.

Or you can play him as an AD carry for shits and giggles

If you want a high damage support, you could play Lux or Zyra if you feel confident with landing their abilities.
Kanye West
2,222 posts
Joined July 2011
Kanye West

Asada Shino wrote:

those wrote:

Anyone got a good Zilean support build? Rune suggest?
I wouldn't recommend Zilean support, your bombs will push the lane too much and you may accidentally steal cs. Against semi-competent people, they will walk the bombs into their own minions to force the lane on their side which is not favourable to you most of the time. Also, shield supports are a big counter as they will shield every bomb, taking very little to no damage. Play him as a mid, he hits hard and his ulti will be far more useful with more AP.

Or you can play him as an AD carry for shits and giggles

If you want a high damage support, you could play Lux or Zyra if you feel confident with landing their abilities.
Or Fiddle.
Justykanna
1,090 posts
Joined April 2011
Justykanna
Anyone have suggestions (not necessarily just build wise) for me, for Garen? Bruiser-type.
I have runes, glyphs, etc for him, but I'm still only level 20 so I don't have everything unlocked yet.
I usually level E, Q, W, (for levels 1, 2 and 3) then max W, then E and Q last. And obviously take R whenever I can. I play with four other friends and I'm 'usually' the only melee player, if that matters at all.

I think I'm having more issues playing him than the actual build though.

Given, I'm not a great player. I'm just looking to improve.
(That and people here seem 100% pro) O_O
noneed_old
546 posts
Joined April 2010
noneed_old

Justykanna wrote:

Anyone have suggestions (not necessarily just build wise) for me, for Garen? Bruiser-type.
I have runes, glyphs, etc for him, but I'm still only level 20 so I don't have everything unlocked yet.
I usually level E, Q, W, (for levels 1, 2 and 3) then max W, then E and Q last. And obviously take R whenever I can. I play with four other friends and I'm 'usually' the only melee player, if that matters at all.

I think I'm having more issues playing him than the actual build though.

Given, I'm not a great player. I'm just looking to improve.
(That and people here seem 100% pro) O_O
Haven't played Garen in a long time but I think nothing has changed much about him. Your priority should be R>E>Q>W and starting with Q. For Build you can make the best use of Warmogs, Sunfire's, Black Cleaver, Runic Bulwark, situational boots and as the last item really anything big and expensive. You can replace Black Cleaver with Ghostblade if you like it more and if somebody already has Runic on your team you should probably go for Randuin's Omen.
tyrael6192
706 posts
Joined October 2010
tyrael6192
most melees can't stand toe to toe with garen; just run in with your silence, then spin on top of them and back out. if they're smart they'll trade back once your abilities are down, so you'll have to watch out. But most of the time, it's rinse and repeat and then go in with ult ignite for the kill.
Justykanna
1,090 posts
Joined April 2011
Justykanna

noneed wrote:

Haven't played Garen in a long time but I think nothing has changed much about him. Your priority should be R>E>Q>W and starting with Q. For Build you can make the best use of Warmogs, Sunfire's, Black Cleaver, Runic Bulwark, situational boots and as the last item really anything big and expensive. You can replace Black Cleaver with Ghostblade if you like it more and if somebody already has Runic on your team you should probably go for Randuin's Omen.
Looks like I have my priority for skills right. Been switching between Q and E for my first skill but never saw a noticeable difference.
More tanky than damage dealing from the looks of what you've got there. Omen's probably one of my favourite items, it just has zero killing power.
Black Cleaver I haven't been using only because other ADs on my team almost always use it. Still worth the money?

tyrael6192 wrote:

most melees can't stand toe to toe with garen; just run in with your silence, then spin on top of them and back out. if they're smart they'll trade back once your abilities are down, so you'll have to watch out. But most of the time, it's rinse and repeat and then go in with ult ignite for the kill.
Even in team fights? I'm having team members that want me to stay in there as long as I can without my health dipping below a low amount (ie: stay in there even with Q and E on cooldown).
I love my R, I just don't like stealing kills from people like carries who probably need them more than a bruiser like me.
tyrael6192
706 posts
Joined October 2010
tyrael6192
I mean in 1v1 duels and trades in top lane. Once you get tanky though, it's ok to stay in teamfights and act as a front like and protect your carries. Also garen carries pretty hard himself mid-game, so don't be afraid of taking a few kills here and there... into lategame you become mostly a damage-soak, so at that point you don't really need any more kills
Justykanna
1,090 posts
Joined April 2011
Justykanna

tyrael6192 wrote:

I mean in 1v1 duels and trades in top lane. Once you get tanky though, it's ok to stay in teamfights and act as a front like and protect your carries. Also garen carries pretty hard himself mid-game, so don't be afraid of taking a few kills here and there... into lategame you become mostly a damage-soak, so at that point you don't really need any more kills
Noted.
It's odd, because I am pretty sure I'm doing everything that people have told me, save for a few build things, and I'm being told I am not good at him. I'm trying to figure out if people are hating the character, or me, now. >_>
Asada Shino
11 posts
Joined November 2012
Asada Shino

Justykanna wrote:

noneed wrote:

Haven't played Garen in a long time but I think nothing has changed much about him. Your priority should be R>E>Q>W and starting with Q. For Build you can make the best use of Warmogs, Sunfire's, Black Cleaver, Runic Bulwark, situational boots and as the last item really anything big and expensive. You can replace Black Cleaver with Ghostblade if you like it more and if somebody already has Runic on your team you should probably go for Randuin's Omen.
Looks like I have my priority for skills right. Been switching between Q and E for my first skill but never saw a noticeable difference.
More tanky than damage dealing from the looks of what you've got there. Omen's probably one of my favourite items, it just has zero killing power.
Black Cleaver I haven't been using only because other ADs on my team almost always use it. Still worth the money?
Brutalizer has always been a strong top lane item, and the S3 change to Black Cleaver makes it into one of the best snowball items if you get an early lead. If you feel you need to be more tanky you can just build Brutalizer for damage then tanky as you see fit and later on sell your Brutalizer for Last Whisper.
Fleia
33 posts
Joined October 2012
Fleia
Brutaliser is still pretty much worth it and its the core for most bruiser top
Hakeru
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Joined May 2010
Hakeru
http://na.leagueoflegends.com/news/pres ... atch-notes

hurr durr finally
those
3,135 posts
Joined November 2010
those
Cool Nami buff
Cool Will of the Ancients recipe
Quaraezha
1,491 posts
Joined February 2011
Quaraezha
Thinking of playing this game soon.
Although my computer's shitty and I'm not confident if I can run it

2.0GHz Processor
2GB RAM
128MB Video Card
noneed_old
546 posts
Joined April 2010
noneed_old

Quaraezha wrote:

Thinking of playing this game soon.
Although my computer's shitty and I'm not confident if I can run it

2.0GHz Processor
2GB RAM
128MB Video Card
ur good to go on low settings.
altough I am not too sure about cpu speed. 2.0 is the minimum if I recall correctly. you should prolly check it on: http://www.systemrequirementslab.com/CYRI/
Quaraezha
1,491 posts
Joined February 2011
Quaraezha

noneed wrote:

Quaraezha wrote:

Thinking of playing this game soon.
Although my computer's shitty and I'm not confident if I can run it

2.0GHz Processor
2GB RAM
128MB Video Card
ur good to go on low settings.
altough I am not too sure about cpu speed. 2.0 is the minimum if I recall correctly. you should prolly check it on: http://www.systemrequirementslab.com/CYRI/
2.0 is minimum, 3.0 Recommended.
Guess I can try it out on Lowest Settings.
How big is the game itself?
noneed_old
546 posts
Joined April 2010
noneed_old
almost 3GB I think.
Sync
osu! Alumni
1,575 posts
Joined April 2011
Sync
you can definitely run it

Diana is finally getting fixed after they severely fucked her w~

Incinerate
Targeting cone is now attached to Annie

Feral Scream
Targeting cone is now attached to Cho'Gath

Siphon of Destruction
Targeting cone is now attached to Mordekaiser

finally, hated how these spells functioned
Synchrostar
867 posts
Joined July 2010
Synchrostar
Annie visual update<3
Keyboard Cat_old
Keyboard Cat_old
lol needs a new carry
Justykanna
1,090 posts
Joined April 2011
Justykanna

Asada Shino wrote:

Brutalizer has always been a strong top lane item, and the S3 change to Black Cleaver makes it into one of the best snowball items if you get an early lead. If you feel you need to be more tanky you can just build Brutalizer for damage then tanky as you see fit and later on sell your Brutalizer for Last Whisper.
Righto. Thanks for the help!
Now to learn more champions so that I don't have to use Geran every PvP match...
Effy
506 posts
Joined July 2012
Effy
One thing to say, Teemo top counter all. o/
Justykanna
1,090 posts
Joined April 2011
Justykanna

Synchrostar wrote:

Annie visual update<3
Not sure I like it, personally. Just makes her look older, lol.
Vulf
17 posts
Joined November 2009
Vulf
I don't know why annie got her VU over Sion and Sivir. I know riot plans on upgrading all the original 40, but Annie didn't need it as bad as Sion, Sivir, Master Yi, Anivia and Nasus just naming a few. =\
noneed_old
546 posts
Joined April 2010
noneed_old

Vulf wrote:

I don't know why annie got her VU over Sion and Sivir. I know riot plans on upgrading all the original 40, but Annie didn't need it as bad as Sion, Sivir, Master Yi, Anivia and Nasus just naming a few. =\
Mainly to attract people to play her. The day Nidalee got her visual upgrade her pick rate doubled. They want people to try Annie again and see for themselves whether she is still any good in League of Gapclosers. I believe she certainly is. While on the other hand, giving a visual upgrade to Sion will only show us how shit he is.
Igotbutts
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0:58 I freaking had an orgasm
Vulf
17 posts
Joined November 2009
Vulf

noneed wrote:

Vulf wrote:

I don't know why annie got her VU over Sion and Sivir. I know riot plans on upgrading all the original 40, but Annie didn't need it as bad as Sion, Sivir, Master Yi, Anivia and Nasus just naming a few. =\
Mainly to attract people to play her. The day Nidalee got her visual upgrade her pick rate doubled. They want people to try Annie again and see for themselves whether she is still any good in League of Gapclosers. I believe she certainly is. While on the other hand, giving a visual upgrade to Sion will only show us how shit he is.
See this really bothers me. I really wish they would fix champions like Sion, Urgot, and Warwick instead of leaving them there to rot forever. Diana and Rengar got over nerfed and were instantly buffed the next patch. Eve was nerfed really hard this patch but i'm sure she will be fixed the next patch.

Sion simply fell out of the meta and could use a rework. Warwick got nerfed then they kept indirectly nerfing him patch after patch (also his kit is outdated).
noneed_old
546 posts
Joined April 2010
noneed_old
Urgot is totally fine. Still a pretty solid pick for arranged 5s and in solo queue I'd rather play him in a sololane. Muramane and Black Cleaver are amazing on him and since HP stacking is the thing right now a Warmog's on him is amazing as well. But yea, still too many old champions who just can't keep up once the meta shifts a bit.
Vulf
17 posts
Joined November 2009
Vulf
I personally think they over nerfed him. He needed to be nerfed, but not that bad lol.

I'm just really upset with the state of the game right now. As much as i hate to say it I prefer s2 at this point lol. Then again it's only the preseason a lot can change these next couple of weeks.
Stefan
Global Moderator
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Joined January 2011
Stefan


I. LOVE. ANNIE. SUPPORT.

Ult with Passive on five enemies seems to be stronk and efficient.
threenash
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threenash
SPOILER


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Justykanna
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Justykanna

Stefan wrote:

I. LOVE. ANNIE. SUPPORT.
Lawl. My sister in law plays Annie as a support. Absolutly controls the scoreboard as far as assists go.
JesusYamato
247 posts
Joined April 2012
JesusYamato
Shiro
Global Moderator
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Joined May 2009
Shiro
for fuck's sake turntheslayer I saw you on Wickd's stream, I would ABSOLUTELY LOVE TO PLAY WITH OR AGAINST WICKD OR OCELOTE, STOP FLAMING for the love of god, you just flame your teammates who don't perform well and you mock opponents that don't do well either, playing with you doesn't look enjoyable at all.

/rant

Quaraezha wrote:

Thinking of playing this game soon.
Although my computer's shitty and I'm not confident if I can run it

2.0GHz Processor
2GB RAM
128MB Video Card
Don't. I have these settings on this old computer (because mine broke, blabla), I get 12fps at the best times, 2fps for teamfights, it's completely UNPLAYABLE.
Stefan
Global Moderator
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Stefan
@Ouariasse: I wonder if Nunu would be dead by Cait's Ult.
those
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Joined November 2010
those
After Karthus (R), which champion is the next "press a button and win"?
South
201 posts
Joined July 2012
South
darius r
JesusYamato
247 posts
Joined April 2012
JesusYamato

those wrote:

After Karthus (R), which champion is the next "press a button and win"?
Ryze is smash your keyboard and win
Stefan
Global Moderator
10,425 posts
Joined January 2011
Stefan

those wrote:

After Karthus (R), which champion is the next "press a button and win"?
AP Amumu's Ult
Asada Shino
11 posts
Joined November 2012
Asada Shino

those wrote:

After Karthus (R), which champion is the next "press a button and win"?
Vulf
17 posts
Joined November 2009
Vulf

Ouariasse wrote:

those wrote:

After Karthus (R), which champion is the next "press a button and win"?
Ryze is smash your keyboard and win
Add Eve and Diana to that list. lol
Effy
506 posts
Joined July 2012
Effy

Vulf wrote:

Add Eve and Diana to that list. lol

True story
eusiphera
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eusiphera
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JesusYamato
247 posts
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JesusYamato

Just when i found out how to make kat even more teamfight efficient by rushing sunfire cape they're nerfing both sunfire and kat.
herp derp
hp was overpowered though so no wonder.
Glass
1,522 posts
Joined January 2010
Glass
>no warmog

DO U EVEN SEASON 3
Vulf
17 posts
Joined November 2009
Vulf
It's riots fault for nerfing every armor and MR item, and removing the only HP stacking counter from the game. Instead of removing bloodrazor from the game why didn't they fix it? Instead they added 2 lackluster items that do not do much due to scaling off current health not max like MBR.
Yapa_old_1
0 posts
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Yapa_old_1

those wrote:

After Karthus (R), which champion is the next "press a button and win"?

Liut
777 posts
Joined June 2011
Liut

Yapi wrote:

those wrote:

After Karthus (R), which champion is the next "press a button and win"?

I hate Zyra >.>

[OT]Are you by any chance that Yapa from Morrighan server? D:[/OT]
noneed_old
546 posts
Joined April 2010
noneed_old

Ouariasse wrote:


Just when i found out how to make kat even more teamfight efficient by rushing sunfire cape they're nerfing both sunfire and kat.
herp derp
hp was overpowered though so no wonder.
>Just when I found out
more like "Just when I saw Voyboy doing it...."
KRZY
Former osu! Champion: OWC#3
4,850 posts
Joined May 2009
KRZY

noneed wrote:

Ouariasse wrote:


Just when i found out how to make kat even more teamfight efficient by rushing sunfire cape they're nerfing both sunfire and kat.
herp derp
hp was overpowered though so no wonder.
>Just when I found out
more like "Just when I saw Voyboy doing it...."
lol
Cyclone
osu! Hall of Famer
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Joined July 2008
Cyclone
People keep questioning my amumu build. I'm still not sure why.

those
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Joined November 2010
those
Tear and Chalice together are redundant, for a start?
Vulf
17 posts
Joined November 2009
Vulf
The only time you should have mana issues with mummy is if the first blue gets stolen.

If your fed enough you can build pretty much anything lol
Yapa_old_1
0 posts
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Yapa_old_1

Vulf wrote:

The only time you should have mana issues with mummy is if the first blue gets stolen.

If your fed enough you can build pretty much anything lol
Still i think that Spirit of the Ancient Golem and Sunfire Cape(AD Heavy)/Abyssal Scepter(AP Heavy) are core items for that litte lonely boy.
noneed_old
546 posts
Joined April 2010
noneed_old

Cyclone wrote:

People keep questioning my amumu build. I'm still not sure why.

Because you basically waste roughly 1.5k on useless shit? Winning a game at 1200 doesnt prove the point that Tears and Chalice are good on Amumu...
Cleatis
32 posts
Joined November 2012
Cleatis

those wrote:

Tear and Chalice together are redundant, for a start?
This. Do you always want to sit at full mana? I like to go tanky as amumu and just let tears do their work, but it really doesn't take all that mana. It'd be better to spend the money on more tankiness in my opinion.
Cyclone
osu! Hall of Famer
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Cyclone
Man you guys are the worst. Next item would have been Seraph's. Which means, yes i always want to be at full mana for a full shield.
Vulf
17 posts
Joined November 2009
Vulf
Warmogs gives you 1000 health and cost less than that item. You would have to have over 4000 mana to beat that with seraphs (which is a 3 second shield).
Cyclone
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Cyclone
But I get some damage out of it as well. Plus I have had mana problems, since I actually farm my jungle instead of just camping lanes. I build some early mana regen to counter that, and they just happen to lead into these items. The tear was more of a joke to begin with, but i've had a lot of success with it, for whatever reason, so I keep building it.

I could probably go without the tear for sure, but the chalice is just too good.
Vulf
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Vulf
You really shouldn't have any mana issues with him regardless if your camping lanes or not. D:

Philostone should suffice enough for mana regen, and also builds into (Shurelya's Reverie) a team item mid to late game. Frozen heart, and Banshees Veil give a good chunk of mana, and are very strong items on him.
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