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osu! World Cup #3 (Concluded - Korea wins)

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Makar
osu! Alumni
2,258 posts
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Makar

Wishy wrote:

I understand Makar, what I dont understand is why you guys burnt your heads off streaming completely irrelevant matches that pretty much no one cared (really most group stage matches were idiotic as of 2-0 vs 0-2 or just obvious outcomes) and then you can't make it for the important matches. That's the only thing that bothers me to be honest.

I'm surprised that peppy didn't realize the client was broken before-hand, since he is usually aware of all that stuff.
Streaming the previous matches or not doesn't change the unexpected outcome of today.

Also, we didn't expect the client to not work or even need testing. It worked perfectly fine before, but something was changed that affected it (and we didnt think it would affect it)

At the moment, the stream is down and will be for a while since the bug is very hard to fix.
Ciunek
52 posts
Joined February 2010
Ciunek
Nice organisation guys.

Thank you for stream, Apricot, was fun to listen to you all chat with each other too. Congrats for winning the game~
Fenek Alfa
185 posts
Joined April 2012
Fenek Alfa
I like how our team was taking it too easy.
WW and fart had one map each they didn't play.
rEdo didn't even download the mappool
And that's just what I've seen on chat and stream, there's probably more...
peppy
19,374 posts
Here since the beginning
peppy
The client was actually working correctly in my tests, and not the reason these streams didn't happen. Fixing it took 12 minutes, and would have happened off-air if we had people in place for the first match of the night. Kinda annoying to me since I plan my sleep/work pattern around being here for every match.
Makar
osu! Alumni
2,258 posts
Joined February 2011
Makar
Client is working again but its kinda too late to start streaming now orz

@peppy: well to be fair the backup streamers weren't really notified about the matches either until a few hours before the match
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Wishy
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Wishy

Fenek Alfa wrote:

I like how our team was taking it too easy.
WW and fart had one map each they didn't play.
rEdo didn't even download the mappool
And that's just what I've seen on chat and stream, there's probably more...
Poland = Niko.
peppy
19,374 posts
Here since the beginning
peppy
The schedule has been out for weeks. Not being notified is not a valid excuse, sorry.

The really issue is that there were/are not enough streamers in place to account for human failure (aka the only two streamers not turning up). This needs to be accounted for at a higher level to ensure such scenarios dont' arise. It's equal to having multiple copies of important data stored in different locations in case of disaster.

I can't really apologise for the failure that was this weekend, but I can join you all in disappointment of not being able to see these possibly amazing matches.
Makar
osu! Alumni
2,258 posts
Joined February 2011
Makar

peppy wrote:

The issue was only that there were not enough backup streamers in place to account for human failure (aka the only two streamers not turning up).
So, why couldn't Kurai be added to the streamers? Loctav had said before he would ask since we really need a streamer in a timezone that doesn't make the chance of human failure so high >.>

I have no idea why we have only two streamers who are also in the same inconvenient timezone. Like I said, I can make most of the matches, but today was unexpected and something else had happened to the other streamer.
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Oinari-sama
osu! Alumni
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Oinari-sama
Taiwan 5-2 Argentina

http://osu.ppy.sh/mp/5663441
fabriciorby
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Joined December 2009
fabriciorby
) :[quote][/quote]
Metro
693 posts
Joined April 2010
Metro
gg Taiwan. We went down with honor and we won the Messi map.

MESSI KIMOSHI!
My Angel Haruna
62 posts
Joined December 2010
My Angel Haruna

Metro wrote:

gg Taiwan. We went down with honor and we won the Messi map.

MESSI KIMOSHI!
nice match really :oops:
KRZY
Former osu! Champion: OWC#3
4,850 posts
Joined May 2009
KRZY
I felt like Woong from Azubu Frost, if anyone gets my reference to League of Legends.

I promise you will see much more from me in the remaining phases of the tournament.
Vish024
2,640 posts
Joined December 2010
Vish024
So will there be a stream for Aus vs NL tonight?
JappyBabes
666 posts
Joined February 2011
JappyBabes
^probably, yeah.

http://www.twitch.tv/smilenzqt/b/354268843 1:04:00 Best part of stream. Super Hexagon \o/
silmarilen
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silmarilen
super hexagon masterrace
hoozimajiget
45 posts
Joined December 2009
hoozimajiget
Wow... the Rucker SnowWhite combo is strong
Wishy
2,972 posts
Joined September 2010
Wishy
I'm completely amazed by Niko and Cookiezi's plays, it's amazing how both of them don't really miss at all and not only that, they get top tier accuracies like it's nothing on every map.
Kanye West
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Kanye West

KRZY wrote:

I felt like Woong from Azubu Frost, if anyone gets my reference to League of Legends.

I promise you will see much more from me in the remaining phases of the tournament.
I hear that Woong is the most hated man in all of Korea.
Liut
777 posts
Joined June 2011
Liut

Wishy wrote:

Fenek Alfa wrote:

I like how our team was taking it too easy.
WW and fart had one map each they didn't play.
rEdo didn't even download the mappool
And that's just what I've seen on chat and stream, there's probably more...
Poland = Niko.
funny how White Wolf missed less than Niko
Tanzklaue
1,151 posts
Joined December 2010
Tanzklaue

Liutprando wrote:

funny how White Wolf missed less than Niko
he grinded until he didn't get misses anymore, so it doesn't count.
Loctav
Popcorn Fairy
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Joined February 2009
Topic Starter
Loctav
splitted Semifinals and Finals again, due to organizational purposes.
SESIN
185 posts
Joined September 2012
SESIN
That game was so intense.
Good job, Netherlands!
Oinari-sama
osu! Alumni
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Oinari-sama
Netherland 5:4 Australia

http://osu.ppy.sh/mp/5672302

Close match
Liut
777 posts
Joined June 2011
Liut

Tanzklaue wrote:

Liutprando wrote:

funny how White Wolf missed less than Niko
he grinded until he didn't get misses anymore, so it doesn't count.
It's sad cause that's actually what some person thinks :(
Pizzicato
2,739 posts
Joined February 2011
Pizzicato
that tiebreaker beatdown

great job NL
Vish024
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Joined December 2010
Vish024
First tiebreaker of the knockout phases, very entertaining from both sides and very evenly contested.

Congrats to the Netherlands and good luck in the next round. Bad luck to our lads, but I have to say we've come further than we thought we would. I'm proud of what our team has a achieved.
lolcubes
osu! Alumni
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lolcubes
That was one awesome match guys. Good job everyone, was really enjoyable to watch. :D

And thanks Makar for staying up late (6am) just so he can provide us with a good stream.
CXu
osu! Alumni
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CXu

Wishy wrote:

I'm completely amazed by Niko and Cookiezi's plays, it's amazing how both of them don't really miss at all and not only that, they get top tier accuracies like it's nothing on every map.
I don't even know how you see that they get it like it's nothing on every map by watching streams/spectating.
Synchrostar
867 posts
Joined July 2010
Synchrostar
Yay now we can get rolled in semifinals :D
JappyBabes
666 posts
Joined February 2011
JappyBabes
I demand an exhibition match from Korea. bthere or bsquare
Totoki
94 posts
Joined November 2010
Totoki
i can finally go back to being a cheerleader, what was this all about anyways? ヾ(*≧∀≦*)ﾉ
Fenek Alfa
185 posts
Joined April 2012
Fenek Alfa
So all Japan has to do next is steamrolling Netherlands and defeating Korea, amirite?


Apricot win#1

Apricot win#2
Metro
693 posts
Joined April 2010
Metro

Liutprando wrote:

Wishy wrote:

Poland = Niko.
funny how White Wolf missed less than Niko
??? Niko 6 FC. White Smoke Wolf 5 FC.

Niko is the real deal here.
Liut
777 posts
Joined June 2011
Liut

Metro wrote:

Niko is the real deal here.
Who cares about FC , i mean sure they are important but you can just miss at the end of a song and still carry pretty much your team.
That's why i said missed and i didn't say fced.
Also don't wanna make comparison team poland was all awesome in my opinion, but you guys always go "Niko and Cookiezi are the best, the rest sux yo"
CXu
osu! Alumni
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Joined March 2009
CXu
Metro is best.
silmarilen
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silmarilen
are you CXure?
Metro
693 posts
Joined April 2010
Metro

Liutprando wrote:

Metro wrote:

Niko is the real deal here.
Who cares about FC
That's all I read from your post.

FC is the most important thing and you don't care about it.

cool story bro.
wonders
610 posts
Joined December 2011
wonders
i wanna to say actually Ballance sama also make a stream, but this one is chinese.233
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My Angel Haruna
62 posts
Joined December 2010
My Angel Haruna

Metro wrote:

FC is the most important thing
true
Liut
777 posts
Joined June 2011
Liut

Metro wrote:

That's all I read from your post.

FC is the most important thing and you don't care about it.

cool story bro.
then you should read all the rest casue it explains everything
Salvage
590 posts
Joined January 2010
Salvage
it doesn't actually explain anything, fc is by far most important than almost fc, take for example Ende on which Japan made 3 fcs and one almost fc, if on an hypothetical case poland would've made 4 fcs, that "4th fc" would've been worth gold, it's not easy to explain but you're just talking bullshit, what is said about Niko and Cookiezi was just prooved right this round, and you're trying to proove otherwise with not only not having any argument, but even having ones that proove you wrong right on your face.
Wishy
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Wishy

Liutprando wrote:

funny how White Wolf missed less than Niko
He missed on two maps. :p

Liutprando wrote:

Metro wrote:

Niko is the real deal here.
Who cares about FC , i mean sure they are important but you can just miss at the end of a song and still carry pretty much your team.
That's why i said missed and i didn't say fced.
Also don't wanna make comparison team poland was all awesome in my opinion, but you guys always go "Niko and Cookiezi are the best, the rest sux yo"
FC is the only important thing. White Wolf did awesome of course, but I liked how Niko got not only all FC -1 which is better than FC -2, but yeah they are two monsters, I just prefer Niko.

In case you didn't know, if you miss when there are still 100 circles left you lost several millions score!
deadbeat
osu! Alumni
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deadbeat

Liutprando wrote:

Who cares about FC
cause you know, its not like the score matters or anything ( o.o)
Cyclohexane
osu! Alumni
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Joined May 2009
Cyclohexane
Can't we agree that both players are on similar levels of skill and amazingness?
Loctav
Popcorn Fairy
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Topic Starter
Loctav
Map list will be published this evening, when I am back from university. Sorry for the delay.
Loctav
Popcorn Fairy
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Topic Starter
Loctav
Published maplist.
KRZY
Former osu! Champion: OWC#3
4,850 posts
Joined May 2009
KRZY
Can't describe the horror I felt when I saw IP4 on the DT list. Thankfully it's not that difficulty.
Vish024
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Vish024
KRZY you're lucky you won't face us mate.
zozozofun
zozozofun

KRZY wrote:

Can't describe the horror I felt when I saw IP4 on the DT list. Thankfully it's not that difficulty.
Wishy
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Joined September 2010
Wishy
What's so hard about it? It's just streaming 210. I can see 4 players from each team at least (dunno NL) being able to do it at least. I find jump DTs harder. :(
KRZY
Former osu! Champion: OWC#3
4,850 posts
Joined May 2009
KRZY

Wishy wrote:

What's so hard about it? It's just streaming 210. I can see 4 players from each team at least (dunno NL) being able to do it at least. I find jump DTs harder. :(
Another is fine. But Insane...let's just say that there's a reason no one has DTed it yet.
Wishy
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Wishy

KRZY wrote:

Wishy wrote:

What's so hard about it? It's just streaming 210. I can see 4 players from each team at least (dunno NL) being able to do it at least. I find jump DTs harder. :(
Another is fine. But Insane...let's just say that there's a reason no one has DTed it yet.
Oh sorry my bad, I read difficult instead of difficulty.
rrtyui
Former osu! Champion: 2014
744 posts
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rrtyui
my map :P
Skystar
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Joined May 2011
Skystar

rrtyui wrote:

my map :P
^ :)
Niko-nyan
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Niko-nyan

rrtyui wrote:

my map :P
♥ map :D
Cyclohexane
osu! Alumni
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Joined May 2009
Cyclohexane
I think MATRYOSHKA has been used in every World Cup so far.

Nice.
Jordan
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Jordan
wtf with identity part 4 in the DT pool...
JappyBabes
666 posts
Joined February 2011
JappyBabes
^I'm not seeing the issue
Jordan
1,037 posts
Joined December 2010
Jordan
It's like 5x times harder than the other two maps in that pool. It's 210 BPM longstreams
KRZY
Former osu! Champion: OWC#3
4,850 posts
Joined May 2009
KRZY

Jordan wrote:

It's like 5x times harder than the other two maps in that pool. It's 210 BPM longstreams
Different difficulty
thelewa
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thelewa

KRZY wrote:

Jordan wrote:

It's like 5x times harder than the other two maps in that pool. It's 210 BPM longstreams
Different difficulty
The Another has like a 100 circle deathstream

not that it's hard or anything, just pointing that out
Tanzklaue
1,151 posts
Joined December 2010
Tanzklaue

Mr Color wrote:

I think MATRYOSHKA has been used in every World Cup so far.

Nice.
where is the problem? most people regard matryoshka as a really good map. add the fact that it is reasonably challenging and you have an almost perfect tournament map.
kriers
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Joined April 2010
kriers

Tanzklaue wrote:

Mr Color wrote:

I think MATRYOSHKA has been used in every World Cup so far.

Nice.
where is the problem? most people regard matryoshka as a really good map. add the fact that it is reasonably challenging and you have an almost perfect tournament map.
There was no sarcasm in color's post so please take off your argument-glasses.
thelewa
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thelewa

kriers wrote:

Tanzklaue wrote:

where is the problem? most people regard matryoshka as a really good map. add the fact that it is reasonably challenging and you have an almost perfect tournament map.
There was no sarcasm in color's post so please take off your argument-glasses.
where is the problem? most people regard argument-glasses as really good glasses. add the fact that it is reasonably challenging to see through them and you have almost perfect tournament glasses.
Metro
693 posts
Joined April 2010
Metro
Stop complaining guys. This is semifinals with 3 asian teams. This level of difficulty is acceptable.
Salvage
590 posts
Joined January 2010
Salvage
Hidden's are all way easier than Her majesty lol.


also where is bioooosss, it fitted perfectly on no mod maps
Cyclohexane
osu! Alumni
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Cyclohexane

Tanzklaue wrote:

Mr Color wrote:

I think MATRYOSHKA has been used in every World Cup so far.

Nice.
where is the problem? most people regard matryoshka as a really good map. add the fact that it is reasonably challenging and you have an almost perfect tournament map.
That comment was not sarcast- oh lol kriers nailed it
Pizzicato
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Pizzicato
i wanna see a tiebreaker, just to see who's gonna die on that spinner
silmarilen
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Joined February 2010
silmarilen
im sad its not AugoEidEs
IppE
IppE

Pizzicato wrote:

i wanna see a tiebreaker, just to see who's gonna die on that spinner
Honestly if they die on that spinner they don't belong to the semifinals.
zozozofun
zozozofun

silmarilen wrote:

im sad its not AugoEidEs
+HR of course.
higurush
313 posts
Joined December 2010
higurush

Pizzicato wrote:

i wanna see a tiebreaker, just to see who's gonna die on that spinner
That spinner is no big deal I guess, that map was a first try FC for me though~
rickyboi
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Joined October 2008
rickyboi
Kinda disappointing they're not playing the SHD diff of Kamui.
Reisen Udongein
Former osu! Champion: OWC#3
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Reisen Udongein

rickyboi wrote:

Kinda disappointing they're not playing the SHD diff of Kamui.
i like dksslqj's since it's far more aesthetic than that diff :3
rickyboi
839 posts
Joined October 2008
rickyboi

Reisen Udongein wrote:

rickyboi wrote:

Kinda disappointing they're not playing the SHD diff of Kamui.
i like dksslqj's since it's far more aesthetic than that diff :3
SHD is better in terms of rythm and creativity in my opinion. I also think this dksslqj style is generic and mediocre, not saying it's bad but I think it's just "meh".
Vish024
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Joined December 2010
Vish024
Ah schedule fits perfectly I'm available tomorrow and this weekend. Looking forward to the matches. Good luck to the teams.
lkjl23
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lkjl23

rickyboi wrote:

SHD is better in terms of rythm and creativity in my opinion. I also think this dksslqj style is generic and mediocre, not saying it's bad but I think it's just "meh".
In terms of creativity, rhythm and aesthetics, dksslqj's diff is far superior to SHD.
Sync
osu! Alumni
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Sync

NeverDie wrote:

rickyboi wrote:

SHD is better in terms of rythm and creativity in my opinion. I also think this dksslqj style is generic and mediocre, not saying it's bad but I think it's just "meh".
In terms of creativity, rhythm and aesthetics, dksslqj's diff is far superior to SHD.
agreed

not saying SHD diff is bad though
Cyclohexane
osu! Alumni
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Cyclohexane
Both were very similar to each other imo

Kamui in general is a very interesting map
SgtSecurity
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SgtSecurity

Pizzicato wrote:

i wanna see a tiebreaker, just to see who's gonna die on that spinner
Yes that spinner won't be a big problem.
It's at the end of the song which means they don't have anything else to worry about, hence if required, they can even change their way of holding pen/mouse just to spin as fast as possible.
laport
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Joined June 2010
laport
It's not very convenient to have both the Match Schedulers in the same far far away time zone
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zozozofun
zozozofun

laport wrote:

It's not very convenient to have both the Match Schedulers in the same time zone
laport
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Joined June 2010
laport
In less than 4 hours it's the 11th, looking at the schedule here, Semi-Finals: 11-13 Jan 2013 Haruka where are you?
thelewa
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thelewa

laport wrote:

In less than 4 hours it's the 11th, looking at the schedule here, Semi-Finals: 11-13 Jan 2013 Haruka where are you?
Scheduling problems? hahaha
Makar
osu! Alumni
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Makar
I don't see a problem with it. You have nearly 43 hours until your match. If you have a conflict then one of the schedulers should be available within the next hour or so. In-case are you simply asking about the schedule itself, it has been up for nearly 2 days already and can be found in the OP.
Haruka_old
315 posts
Joined February 2011
Haruka_old
I don't see the problem? What is your issue?

I'm at school right now, so whatever the problem is, if there even is one I'll get to it soon.
rickyboi
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rickyboi

NeverDie wrote:

rickyboi wrote:

SHD is better in terms of rythm and creativity in my opinion. I also think this dksslqj style is generic and mediocre, not saying it's bad but I think it's just "meh".
In terms of creativity, rhythm and aesthetics, dksslqj's diff is far superior to SHD.
dksslqj's diff is mediocre and generic. I can't really see how "far" its superiority compared to SHD since what I'm thinking of is the opposite. If there's anything far it's SHD's difficulty gap against dksslqj. We all have different opinions on this anyway so yea, good luck to all the teams!
Wishy
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Wishy
I like both diffs but SHD is way more unique imo, dksslqj doesn't look that special tbh.
Darksonic
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Darksonic
Korea 6-1 Taiwan

http://osu.ppy.sh/mp/5723636

As expected I guess.
FlyingKiwi
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FlyingKiwi
Go Korea!
Loctav
Popcorn Fairy
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Topic Starter
Loctav
I just noticed, that I didnt publish the information about the physical prize for the #1 so far... :D Let me add this.
Wishy
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Wishy
I will give you guys an idea it took me like 3 years of thinking to get to this:

Get the stream on 20 minutes before the actual match starts, if you do that even if some kind of problem comes up you will have like 20 minutes to fix it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Common sense, either that or the spectator client breaks randomly for no reason.
Oinari-sama
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Oinari-sama
Support!

That was a good recovery effort from the streaming team. But to avoid disappointment at the Finals, I think it pays to get the stream ready well ahead of kick off.
Wishy
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Wishy
Yeah that's what I mean, problems can arise and well nothing you can do about it but just trying to put the stream online some time before the actual match gives you a wide time window to solve possible issues.
Kynan
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Kynan
I agree there you should be a time before the match to see if there are bugs or not...
Oinari-sama
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Oinari-sama
Japan 6:0 Netherland

http://osu.ppy.sh/mp/5736573

Looking forward to the Final!
Kiririnshi
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Kiririnshi
That was nice to watch, also looking forward to the Final!
zozozofun
zozozofun
3rd OWC in a row something like this happens, we don't like to change things~<3
aRtii-
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we love you eddie
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