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OsuMe65

JeMhUnTeR wrote:

ohwait there's too much elements in here. @MLGnom, will you PLEASE add a spoilerbox to the OP with complete, updated skin element listing, including those minor ones?? sankyu :3

Edit: OR MAYBE I'LL JUST CREATE A LIST INCLUDDING THOSE REMOVED ONES. I SHALL BROWSE THIS THREAD SOMEDAY. *someday* >.>
i guess you found it tl and dr
jemhuntr

OsuMe65 wrote:

JeMhUnTeR wrote:

ohwait there's too much elements in here. @MLGnom, will you PLEASE add a spoilerbox to the OP with complete, updated skin element listing, including those minor ones?? sankyu :3

Edit: OR MAYBE I'LL JUST CREATE A LIST INCLUDDING THOSE REMOVED ONES. I SHALL BROWSE THIS THREAD SOMEDAY. *someday* >.>
i guess you found it tl and dr
wat. OH BTW. I FINISHED BROWSING THE ENTIRE THREAD :3

(although I forgot to take down the .ini related stuff)
oh hey I'm older than OsuMe >.<
jemhuntr
wait so that means that the entire skin is just being experimented on by you guys ??? :o that's bad xD *asks peppy*
Rei Hakurei
about new lobby UI
current lobby-background from menu-background.jpg, maybe later will be deleted from default skin.
just telling this :3
Topic Starter
MLGnom
Ah, finally a widescreen support for lobby. Well, Thank you.
OsuMe65

Rei_Fan49 wrote:

about new lobby UI
current lobby-background from menu-background.jpg, maybe later will be deleted from default skin.
just telling this :3
this happened now ._.
Yuki-kun
I don't like new Multi UI...
It's hard to read a room In Progress or not... or my Main BG too dark? :(
Rei Hakurei

Yuki-kun wrote:

I don't like new Multi UI...
It's hard to read a room In Progress or not... or my Main BG too dark? :(
your main BG is dimmed around 25~30%
Don-Tan
this new UI tactic from peppy completley destroys my affords from my skin X.x
Rei Hakurei
let's see if Special Mode or osu!direct BG too is changed its layout later time,

1. option-background ; announced by peppy that using menu-background
2. lobby-background ; not announced but same behaviour like current Pption BG
3. let's see what's gonna happen later
Topic Starter
MLGnom
Let's just hope we won't see one, same BG everywhere. :/
Yuki-kun
Does anyone here try hitcircleoverlay with animated? xD
Topic Starter
MLGnom

Yuki-kun wrote:

Does anyone here try hitcircleoverlay with animated? xD
Wait, what? Since when we are able to animate "hitcircleoverlay". O.o

Tested and it's working but... geez...

Okay, when I finish my actual skin project, I'm going to do an update and a lot of testing because there was too many changes (probably). >.<
Roxas
in .ini file, where do we have to write .ini part of osu!mania? in [General]?
Topic Starter
MLGnom
For osu!mania settings you must have separate files - 4k.ini, 5k.ini, 6k.ini 7k.ini and 8k.ini
Rei Hakurei

MLGnom wrote:

For osu!mania settings you must have separate files - 4k.ini, 5k.ini, 51.ini, 6k.ini, 7k.ini, and 8k.ini
don't forget that one, even i only encouter 5+1k once but woc is already added that +1 support for 5 and 7 afaik,
H_Hitachiin

Rei_Fan49 wrote:

let's see if Special Mode or osu!direct BG too is changed its layout later time,

1. option-background ; announced by peppy that using menu-background
2. lobby-background ; not announced but same behaviour like current Pption BG
3. let's see what's gonna happen later
lobby-background.png doesn't work anymore but matchsetup-background.png is still there (:
kona x taros
Look what I have made \:D/


Don-Tan
omg this is just tooo cute X3 i luv it

EDIT: haha at first i was going to write: "NOOO why so many updates? i have to update my skin way to often ._.)" but then i saw this epic background XD
Topic Starter
MLGnom

xXDoNiXx wrote:

omg this is just tooo cute X3 i luv it

EDIT: haha at first i was going to write: "NOOO why so many updates? i have to update my skin way to often ._.)" but then i saw this epic background XD
Tell that to me... My skins still need nightcore/perfect mod update. :/
Don-Tan

MLGnom wrote:

xXDoNiXx wrote:

omg this is just tooo cute X3 i luv it

EDIT: haha at first i was going to write: "NOOO why so many updates? i have to update my skin way to often ._.)" but then i saw this epic background XD
Tell that to me... My skins still need nightcore/perfect mod update. :/
yeah :| i'm still pissed that i have to redo the whole special - mod.png row :cry:
OsuMe65
selection-mod-novideo.png is gone... ( ._.)
i hope the entire skinning elements will not be vanished forever...
HTTkeion
he's right ( ._.)
Topic Starter
MLGnom
Just to inform you guys, you can now skin backgrounds for widescreen resolutions, yes I mean pause, fail etc. (The safest should be 1366x768 resolution). But be careful with it, and always check how it will look in 4:3. Or as alternative if you are going to post your skin at forum, make 2 versions of it.

Like I said before, in nearest days I will start testing everything from beginning and will provide any new informations. ^.^
Rei Hakurei
ranking screen too supports widescreen, but every elements there aren't widescreen support (just the 5 circles that spinning slowly around grade element that affected by widescreen)
Keredna
Either I'm just not guessing the right dimensions, or ranking-panel no longer covers the entire screen.
OsuMe65

MLGnom wrote:

Just to inform you guys, you can now skin backgrounds for widescreen resolutions, yes I mean pause, fail etc. (The safest should be 1366x768 resolution). But be careful with it, and always check how it will look in 4:3. Or as alternative if you are going to post your skin at forum, make 2 versions of it. (1)

Like I said before, in nearest days I will start testing everything from beginning and will provide any new informations. ^.^ (2)
(1) oh, that's a good one

(2) i hope the informations won't include the skinning elements that has been taken down. ( ._.)
Garygoh884


That works! I wonder if we could be able to make playfields widescreen...
Topic Starter
MLGnom

Garygoh884 wrote:



That works! I wonder if we could be able to make playfields widescreen...
Yes, now we are able to put widescreen background. (probably in beatmaps too). If you use 1024x768 playfield, it will be resized to fit any widescreen resolution.
BUT if you use widescreen playfield, osu! will add black bars on upper and bottom part of screen. It depends with one resolution you are using so the bars will be larger or smaller. As I said before again the safest should be 1366x768 to have it working on every aspec ratio.
gameboi9321
Is there a way to add characters to the side of the screen when you get enough no-misses? Or did i overlook something? :?

EDIT- Nevermind,I found out how ^^;
Topic Starter
MLGnom
They are called combobursts and first appear when you have 30 combo.
gameboi9321

MLGnom wrote:

They are called combobursts and first appear when you have 30 combo.
Thanks for the help, but I already figured it out ^^;
pielak213
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jemhuntr
Great. I never knew hitcircle overlay could be animated.
Jackyyy
Is it just me or does a 1366x768 matchsetup-background.png not fit properly?
Topic Starter
MLGnom
Because that background it's still in progress. The official background is only in 1024x768 and you wouldn't be able to have it on widescreen. The main problem with it, is that the numbers and texts like "Game type" "Mods" "Beatmaps" are part of background.
AnceriI Sacred
options-background, lobby-background and matchsetup-background doesnt work :C
Topic Starter
MLGnom

Zeolith wrote:

options-background, lobby-background and matchsetup-background doesnt work :C
options and lobby has been removed. Instead of them you can see your menu-background if you are supporter.

For matchsetup-background check if you haven't made any mistake, since it's working just fine for me.
AnceriI Sacred
why options- and lobby-background has been removed?
Topic Starter
MLGnom
Ask peppy, not me. ^^;
AnceriI Sacred
and there's one more thing
after the last update the lobby-bg still work but then i changed it and only then i doesnt work anymore
Topic Starter
MLGnom
It could be minor error, it doesn't work for me.
Like I said "menu-background.jpg" is used also as lobby-background now. Don't know if it will be or it is actually possible to change it to use other bg than menu. Maybe it is supporter future? I don't know, don't have supporter so it's impossible for me to test it. ^^;
Yuki-kun
Supporter doesn't have lobby-bg either. :(
Don-Tan
I WANT A FULLSCREEN RANKING BACKGROUND ლ(ಠ益ಠლ)
Rei Hakurei
playfield is ranking screen background.
ranking-panel covers the 5 circles that rotating around grade-A ~ grade-D
Bittersweet
MLGnom, you need to update this ~ :D
Wojtek_old_1
seems templateskin.osk linked in this topic is corrupted (do not open correctly as zip file).
Topic Starter
MLGnom
Huh? How it's not open as zip file?
Tested right now and it's working just fine.

All you should do is download and double click on it... (as long as it's associated with osu!)

Bittersweet wrote:

MLGnom, you need to update this ~ :D
Tomorrow I will start working on some kind of update.
jemhuntr

Wojtek wrote:

seems templateskin.osk linked in this topic is corrupted (do not open correctly as zip file).
seems like you already have a "templateskin" folder. Sometimes when I re-extract skins thru osk, the new folder goes inside the folder, so you have a Skins\templateskin\templateskin directory
Wojtek_old_1
sorry, it has to be my shitty internet, but i swear i downloaded it 3 times and it was always corrupted. tried now again, and it's fine.
Rei Hakurei

JeMhUnTeR wrote:

Wojtek wrote:

seems templateskin.osk linked in this topic is corrupted (do not open correctly as zip file).
seems like you already have a "templateskin" folder. Sometimes when I re-extract skins thru osk, the new folder goes inside the folder, so you have a Skins\templateskin\templateskin directory
skin extraction process same as beatmap extraction.

[New Skin Folder] is based from [.osk Name]
so if you put something like in this tree (sample: http://puu.sh/1JNDh)
Inside thCtC[RF49].osk
+ thCtC[RF49]
|-- applause.wav
|-- button-left.png
|-- etc...
instead (sample: http://puu.sh/1JNDx)
Inside thCtC[RF49].osk
applause.wav
play-unranked.png
etc...
it will give
+ thCtC[RF49] <-- .osk name
|--+ thCtC[RF49]
|--|-- applause.wav
|--|-- button-left.png
|--|-- etc...
instead
+ thCtC[RF49] <-- .osk name
|-- applause.wav
|-- button-left.png
|-- etc...
jemhuntr
oh. I get it. I never actually got the chance to see what's inside an osk since it gets deleted. ^_^
Topic Starter
MLGnom
Okay guys I need to get some information and hope someone can help me.

What I need :
1. What kind of skins Taiko players consider as "Pro" skin (Something like this exists?)? I think most of them uses official version of skin but still... (There is not many skins that have skinned this mod :/)
2. Same question but for CtB. How people should skin fruits to help player?
3. And for osu!mania... I don't really know what kind of skins people needs/prefer. I will be grateful for any info about osu!mania skins and what kind of skin people prefer.
VoidnOwO
:oops:
Hanyuu
For mania i think there arent too much helpfull things. Notes is probably the most important. They have a great effect when playing or the stagelight. You can have that big or invisible or just hardly noticeable, it all makes a difference what a player prefers. Column width is also a good thing to edit in the skin if a player has less less trouble with reading wide or super wide skin. The lighting effect can also make some difference when you notice it when playing but i think it is minimal because you have to pay attention for other things. I dont think there is any sort of in skins for mania that makes you alot better, only user preference.

Edit: For CTB note im not a really CTB player but i can imagine a round fruit skin that looks the same for anything, like just a blue ball or something could make a difference. Also making the numbers transparent maybe? Since i read some people complaining they are blocking in fl mode but i dont know. Just an idea
Topic Starter
MLGnom
Thank you guys, that helps a lot, but still would like to have few more opinions.
And would be great if someone could tell me something about "pro" taiko skin.
(I think, I will need to find some good players and ask directly :/)
CloudNep
I'm having trouble with the lobby-background.png cuz whenever I go into the lobby there isn't any image... Help pl0x~
Topic Starter
MLGnom

CloudEdge wrote:

I'm having trouble with the lobby-background.png cuz whenever I go into the lobby there isn't any image... Help pl0x~
Lobby background has been removed. Now background of main-menu is used as lobby background.
chibi2ki
Cool~ I'm a bit of a newbie, but this is pretty helpful since I'm just starting to make a skin and I just have no idea at all how to do it.
jemhuntr
for osu!mania:
no pro osu!mania player plays with a ddr based (or anything similar) arrows as the notes nor use a clear playfield.
grid colors should be alternating, mania-hint should be perfectly aligned to the judgment line, and note colors should be contrasting.
alternating grid colors are better than alternating grid transparencies with the same color.
some people prefer copying the note color setup from whatever similar game they play to make it more familiar.
border between stage sides and playfield should be noticeable.
if you plan to not use column lines, make sure to at least put line(s) on the center column(s). those center lines will help you a lot, especially in 6K, 7K or 8K.
don't use overrated stage lightings. (the lighting that pops up behind the grids when you hit notes)
try not to use lighting N's and L's that are too flashy, people focus their eyes on that point when they want a high accuracy (although I use a flashy one since I look higher on the screen while playing)
"don't block the driveway", hitbursts will always be there, so never make your hitbursts too high. smaller or thinner is better for some people. just don't forget to make 300 different from 300!.
use a larger miss hitbursts than the other hitbursts.
i prefer using note holds with a vertical gradient, it tells me how long a slider is and tells me when it's about to end.
make your stage right and stage left as fancy as possible, no one looks there while playing.
try not to make the hp bar too distracting.

taiko:
i don't really play taiko, but I think it would be better if the stage right contrasts the note colors (blue and red-ish)
don't use a distracting pippidon animation
colors should be dominant on the outer part of the circles
don't use a stage right glow that is too bright/glowing
make sure the hitbursts don't block incoming circles
make sure that the border between stage left and stage right is noticeable

ctb:
i also don't play ctb but...
use drop shadows for the fruits
try to make the fruits look as closely as possible to each other
make use of the fruit overlays to add lighting effects and shadows to the fruits to make the fruits more visible
try to make the font simpler, thinner, and smaller


meh can't think of any more now >.<
Ritsuko_old_1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BTf-Y4immCM

What's this is skin?
Please tell me skin's name :D
chibi2ki
Question: Why does the template have no skin.ini inside?
Rei Hakurei

chibi2ki wrote:

Question: Why does the template have no skin.ini inside?
the real template had it, have you checked the osume.exe and open extras tab?
Topic Starter
MLGnom

chibi2ki wrote:

Question: Why does the template have no skin.ini inside?
Maybe next time check skin folder first before you post something that will confuse me? :<

Both templates have skin.ini inside (template here and that one you can have via osume.exe)

(Yes, he probably got typical "Missing skin.ini file" in game.)
hyisz
Question ^^

as I can to star2.png appears all along like in relax...?
_-_Sakura_-_
rename it to star.png
Rei Hakurei

_-_Sakura_-_ wrote:

rename it to star.png
star.png and star2.png have different function.

star.png -> difficulty star
star2.png -> effects on mouse, kiai fountain, etc.
star3.png unskinnable -> main menu kiai fountain
Topic Starter
MLGnom

DDarkAnime wrote:

Question ^^

as I can to star2.png appears all along like in relax...?
If you are asking about star2 that appears all the time from cursor then no. You can't do that.
The similar effect only appear when map have kiai time.
Heibel

Repulser wrote:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BTf-Y4immCM

What's this is skin?
Please tell me skin's name :D
go to thelewa's userpage and get it. And why on earth are you asking in here?
jemhuntr

Rei_Fan49 wrote:

star3.png unskinnable -> main menu kiai fountain
star3...? O.o isn't that the same as star2?
OsuMe65
it's unskinnable... (star3.png)
(shit...)
Topic Starter
MLGnom

JeMhUnTeR wrote:

Rei_Fan49 wrote:

star3.png unskinnable -> main menu kiai fountain
star3...? O.o isn't that the same as star2?
No it isn't the same file. It only use the same picture as default star2.
L_P
any idea of where i could find the default drum-hitfinish?
Rei Hakurei

L_P wrote:

any idea of where i could find the default drum-hitfinish?
osu!stream :v
btw http://puu.sh/1Ol5O
(well, for taiko drum hitsound is 100% silence, i will give temporary fix for that)
Akeipoid VM-01
Something that's been bothering me when I make a skin are the slider tracks is there a way to edit them at all or does that not exist?
(I mean like adding gradients glows etc I know I can edit the color base and type in the skin.ini)
Topic Starter
MLGnom

Akeipoid VM-01 wrote:

Something that's been bothering me when I make a skin are the slider tracks is there a way to edit them at all or does that not exist?
(I mean like adding gradients glows etc I know I can edit the color base and type in the skin.ini)
All you can do with sliders is in skin.ini part.
So no, you can't do any gradients etc. :/
Akeipoid VM-01

MLGnom wrote:

Akeipoid VM-01 wrote:

Something that's been bothering me when I make a skin are the slider tracks is there a way to edit them at all or does that not exist?
(I mean like adding gradients glows etc I know I can edit the color base and type in the skin.ini)
All you can do with sliders is in skin.ini part.
So no, you can't do any gradients etc. :/
Shame that would be such a nice feature to have :/
jemhuntr
it's somewhere beneath feature requests. It's about skinning slider tracks.

Oh btw, you won't be able to see clicktostart.png and dragtobrowse.png anymore. It only exists for arcade builds, and it became unskinnable lately. it's my fault, I mentioned it in tech support
Don-Tan
guys... i have bad news XD the end of the matchsetup-background.png is comming :cry:

EDIT: but it doesn't look all that bad :/
Topic Starter
MLGnom
Oh for the god sake... so matchsetup-background now also uses menu-background? :/
OsuMe65

MLGnom wrote:

Oh for the god sake... so matchsetup-background now also uses menu-background? :/
for the love of Pete... NO! (if this happens now... skinning life might suck a little bit)
Don-Tan
it happened XD the only bit of hope i have now is that they don't change the special menu background XD..... no seriously if that happens i'm gonna write a featured request if anyone hasn't done that before T_T
Topic Starter
MLGnom
Holy Crap... making proper tutorial is way harder than I thought and it's taking much more time than expected. </3

1. Introduction - done!
2. Basic - 75% - need to add way more information here.
3. Skin.ini - 95% - need to test something.
4. Standard skin elements - 5% work in progress <3
5. Catch the beat elements - 0% - need to create it first...
6. Taiko elements - 75% - need to rewrite few things, and explain it better.
7. osu!mania skin elements - 50% - need to update it and explain properly.
8. Creating .osk file - done!
9. Posting a skin - 75% - need to add few things, explain it a little better.


So, I have started working on Standard skin elements. Hope this time it will be more helpful than previous one.

Also, I have added 2 small tutorials how to cut characters for comboburst in comboburst section. It should somehow help... I think so...?
Someone will need to correct my crappy grammar after I finish with everything.
Aquamarine
Nice update.
Squichu
Aah, such a nice tutorial. Helped me with creating my own skin soooo much! >3<

But I don't really get why it says you can't do countdowns horizontally.. (made one myself and it works perfectly..) o-o
Here is a screenshot of the countdown (yh, it's terrible, but who cares.. D:), since I can't really explain how it works.. xD *sucks at english*
Topic Starter
MLGnom
I have found something guys!

Something that really helps with making countdowns for any resolution.
In wide-screen update, anchor positions and behaviour of countdown have been changed. So it's possible to make horizontal countdown. <3
Most likely countdown is not restricted by size any more.

How this works :
As always height of countdown should be 768px.


Count 3 - Anchor position of it's at left side. Left side of picture will start here.
Count 2 - Anchor position of it's at right side. Right side of picture will start here.
Count 1 - Anchor position is at centre of screen. Centre of your picture will be here.

But remember that count 3 is first, next is count 2, and count 1 will be covered by these two.

Well... let's continue with update...

Edit :

[ Squirrel ] wrote:

Aah, such a nice tutorial. Helped me with creating my own skin soooo much! >3<

But I don't really get why it says you can't do countdowns horizontally.. (made one myself and it works perfectly..) o-o
Here is a screenshot of the countdown (yh, it's terrible, but who cares.. D:), since I can't really explain how it works.. xD *sucks at english*
Oh you! You were a little faster than me. <3
Squichu

MLGnom wrote:

Oh you! You were a little faster than me. <3
Haha. :b (Wanted to post this quite a while ago, but kinda forgot about it... xD)
But it's nice to know how it works thanks to your graphic. *__*
Didn't really get how mine was working.. |D

& btw, does anyone know if there is a way to get a different scorebar for osumania?
I'd love to change mine, cause my customized one looks awful.. :\
(and I dun wanna change skins every time I play mania. ... -lazy-)
Topic Starter
MLGnom
Sadly, we can't do anything about that right now. There is already few future requests about separate skin elements for different mods but nobody know if they will be added or when.
Squichu
Aww, darn it. u.u
But oh well, maybe it'll be added some day.. gotta keep switching skins then, I guess. >o<
jemhuntr
i can remember myself requesting for a different mania hp bar, since i use a 1366x768 hp bar so it appears on the bottom in standard. I'm just not that sure if I actually requested that or that was just an imagination
Topic Starter
MLGnom
Standard skin parts done at 70%... if someone is bored and can make/find more example pictures for parts... that would be really helpful. <3
Garygoh884


Now you can use Taiko font for title and author by adding taiko.ttf to your skin folder.
Rei Hakurei

Garygoh884 wrote:



Now you can use Taiko font for title and author by adding taiko.ttf to your skin folder.
nice, i like this feature :3
Garygoh884


Don't forget the new modifier (osu!mania only) Fade In. Add the file selection-mod-fadein.png to your skin folder.

What I call this modifier is Sudden, like in StepMania and O2JAM.
Topic Starter
MLGnom
Ah, yes. Thank you. I didn't follow after last week updates.

I'm here to explain skin parts, not game mechanics. ^^;

Edit :

Finally finished Standard skin elements.

1. Introduction - done!
2. Basic - 75% - Need to add few things.
3. Skin.ini - done!
4. Standard skin elements - done! - still need grammar/style corrections, but I will take care of them after finishing everything.
5. Catch the beat elements - 0% - Not many elements. Will do that tomorrow.
6. Taiko elements - 75%
7. osu!mania skin elements - 50% - need to update it and explain properly.
8. Creating .osk file - done!
9. Posting a skin - 75% - need to add few things, explain it a little better.
x1. Sounds - To be added in the future.
x2. Installing skins - To be added in future.

Meh, I'm going to sleep now...
Rumerjose
Thanks for this nuclear hot contribution

My friend is gonna appreciate it :D
HakuNoKaemi
someone should remove the nuke
Rei Hakurei

HakuNoKaemi wrote:

someone should remove the nuke
umm why you didn't revert the icon into then ? since some subforum allows icon changes by non-staffs.
OsuMe65
a nuke is hot according to him...
Garygoh884
I had made a discovery involving the osu!mania .ini files. This discovery involves the numbers of ColumnWidth (CW) and ColumnStart (CS).



These numbers deals with how many pixels on a 640x480 screen. When you're playing a osu!mania map on a W x H screen,

The left side of the play area starts at CS*H/480 and the right side ends at (CS+Sum of CWs)*H/480).



I made that discovery after realizing when I play on a 4:3 window with the settings CS =440 and (sum of CWs) = 200, the right side of the play area was just at the right side of the window.

The maximum width for the left stage sprite is 738 pixels, which covers the left side of the play area when you set ColumnWidth to 460.
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