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Hakeru
need a good build for AP yi

anyway ,
whatthefudge
YunoGaming

Konei wrote:

those wrote:

Loving mpen support mundo lately... best adcs to abuse this with?
Ashe for sure 0.0
i found out , that tear of the godess gets filled from ashe Q auto attacks...seems legit > <
those

YunoGaming wrote:

i found out , that tear of the godess gets filled from ashe Q auto attacks...seems legit > <
Manamune is a full 2100 gold setback for a not worth amount of AD. Muramana also doesn't benefit Ashe since the only single target is his auto attack. Also it's not auto attack that charges tear, it's leaving the toggle on.
Vulf

Aoriki wrote:



It's been like that for the past 5 mins now. I originally was waiting for 30 mins to log in and now this. It's been repeating 15 sec, 17 sec, 30 sec, then back to 11...Such a troll.
After waiting in a 25 min normal blind pick queue I decided to relog and got smacked with a 37 min log in queue. :(
Aoriki
I think I wasted almost 50 mins just waiting to log in to the game. Now I finally log in and get smacked with a gift, I'm ok with this.
Vulf
I hate lose streaks. :(
Had to bring out my Warwick to break it.
Aoriki
So....here's a question for those who use Kennen. I love him cause he's a flippin ninja (hur hur) I finally got to use him on PVP once more and the results are kinda...er...



So, if I want to fully build him, What items you recommend me getting? Not sure if I was doing it right but I somehow got fed with no one even killing me. (They try to gank and failed, ended up murdering two people)
GeeNX
rilay zhonya and abisal, but depending on who's feed on their team too
Stefan

Aoriki wrote:

I love him cause he's a flippin ninja (hur hur)
Because he is Pikachu! And almost everyone loves Pikachu!

To your Question, afaik Lich Bane should be nice with him.
noneed_old

Aoriki wrote:

So....here's a question for those who use Kennen. I love him cause he's a flippin ninja (hur hur) I finally got to use him on PVP once more and the results are kinda...er...


So, if I want to fully build him, What items you recommend me getting? Not sure if I was doing it right but I somehow got fed with no one even killing me. (They try to gank and failed, ended up murdering two people)
Eh, you're build is way too squishy. Any half way competent team would blow you up the moment you enter the fight, since it's your role to be in the middle of it. Kennen, as right now is best built as a tanky engager. I'd highly suggest you to only take Hextech if you are laning against 24/7 poke, else go for Haunting Guise as your first item.
Your 4 major items would be: Haunting Guise, Zhonya's Hourglass, Abyssal Scepter and Rabadon's Deathcap. There are times were you would get the Abyssal as your first item and times where you would get Zhonya's as your first. It really depends on your enemies and your role in the team. But be sure to take Deathcap as the last of those 4 items, or as the 3rd. Haunting Guise is an amazing early-mid game item so if you go back with 1.5k don't hesitate to buy it even over boots 1. Boots are always optional, but mostly either Sorc's or Merc's.
You're full build should include Zhonya's, Abyssal, Boots, Deathcap, Void Staff(you sell your Haunting Guise for it lategame) and one last optional item suiting your enemies team. Most things work here: Guardian Angel, QSS, Rylais, ...
For masteries you can go with the standard 21/9/0. For runes I'd highly recommend Movementspeed Quints, Magic Pen Reds, Armor Yellows and flat Magic Resist Blues.
I have probably around 300 games played with Kennen and also hit Platinum with him alone on my smurf so you can gladly take my words.
Stefan


I hate Ahri, but this would be amazing as Skin.
Asada Shino

noneed wrote:

Aoriki wrote:

So....here's a question for those who use Kennen. I love him cause he's a flippin ninja (hur hur) I finally got to use him on PVP once more and the results are kinda...er...


So, if I want to fully build him, What items you recommend me getting? Not sure if I was doing it right but I somehow got fed with no one even killing me. (They try to gank and failed, ended up murdering two people)
Eh, you're build is way to squishy. Any half way competent team would blow you up the moment you enter the fight, since it's your role to be in the middle of it. Kennen, as right now is best built as a tanky engager. I'd highly suggest you to only take Hextech if you are laning against 24/7 poke, else go for Haunting Guise as your first item.
Your 4 major items would be: Haunting Guise, Zhonya's Hourglass, Abyssal Scepter and Rabadon's Deathcap. There are times were you would get the Abyssal as your first item and times where you would get Zhonya's as your first. It really depends on your enemies and your role in the team. But be sure to take Deathcap as the last of those 4 items, or as the 3rd. Haunting Guise is an amazing early-mid game item so if you go back with 1.5k don't hesitate to buy it even over boots 1. Boots are always optional, but mostly either Sorc's or Merc's.
You're full build should include Zhonya's, Abyssal, Boots, Deathcap, Void Staff(you sell your Haunting Guise for it lategame) and one last optional item suiting your enemies team. Most things work here: Guardian Angel, QSS, Rylais, ...
For masteries you can go with the standard 21/9/0. For runes I'd highly recommend Movementspeed Quints, Magic Pen Reds, Armor Yellows and flat Magic Resist Blues.
I have probably around 300 games played with Kennen and also hit Platinum with him alone on my smurf so you can gladly take my words.
Agreed, you need to build a little tanky so you can soak up some damage before you need to use your Zhonya's. Most people make the mistake of using Zhonya's right away which gives people a better chance of getting away so you only use it when you start to get focused. In some cases it might probably be right away if they have good cc and you don't have QSS or Guardian Angel
JesusYamato

SYDTKO trying out new build in normal lol
GeeNX
kata tank op
ouranhshc
THis is my first time using Diana in pvp, i've been practicing with her in bots though

Asada Shino

Ouariasse wrote:


SYDTKO trying out new build in normal lol
Did you beat him in lane? Looks like he still did well despite his team
noneed_old
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Hakeru
i officially hate twitch looool , but i wanna try him
Udipia

Aoriki wrote:

So....here's a question for those who use Kennen. I love him cause he's a flippin ninja (hur hur) I finally got to use him on PVP once more and the results are kinda...er...



So, if I want to fully build him, What items you recommend me getting? Not sure if I was doing it right but I somehow got fed with no one even killing me. (They try to gank and failed, ended up murdering two people)
Start boots, build doran's blades for harass or revolver for sustain, then rush hourglass. Build situationally. If you have double AP, maybe buy abyssal/WotA, if not you can build rylai's for tankiness/kiting or deathcap if you're raping them hard. ofc void staff for lategame mpen.

Don't rush deathcap.
Fleia
IMO deathcap should nt be rushed as the 1st item now since it gt nerfed abit u can try getting hourglass 1st if they can kill u quickly or u can try out haunting guise which is a great item for ap mids
JesusYamato

Asada Shino wrote:

Ouariasse wrote:


SYDTKO trying out new build in normal lol
Did you beat him in lane? Looks like he still did well despite his team
Playing vs a diamond nidalee, do you expect me to win lane as a melee champ? That thing is a nightmare

Punchs wrote:

IMO deathcap should nt be rushed as the 1st item now since it gt nerfed abit u can try getting hourglass 1st if they can kill u quickly or u can try out haunting guise which is a great item for ap mids
Haven't seen raba rush in a long time, stacking mpen is so much more worth it in s3 with the way penetration works now.
There are so many itemizations for ap in season 3 which made this role the most FUN to play
Top lane is even more toxic than season 2 imo with the cleaver rush and once you're behind the laner who snowballed can 1vs2 the jungler too so gg.
Asada Shino

Ouariasse wrote:

Playing vs a diamond nidalee, do you expect me to win lane as a melee champ? That thing is a nightmare
A good AP nid is a scary nid, I'd shit myself if I had to go up against hsgg

Ouariasse wrote:

Punchs wrote:

IMO deathcap should nt be rushed as the 1st item now since it gt nerfed abit u can try getting hourglass 1st if they can kill u quickly or u can try out haunting guise which is a great item for ap mids
Haven't seen raba rush in a long time, stacking mpen is so much more worth it in s3 with the way penetration works now.
There are so many itemizations for ap in season 3 which made this role the most FUN to play
Top lane is even more toxic than season 2 imo with the cleaver rush and once you're behind the laner who snowballed can 1vs2 the jungler too so gg.
I love what they did with AP, I always see different builds every game, no more ring stacking into cap (though there was less of that after the s2 tournament since people started using grail)
Top lane is kinda ridiculous when it snowballs, they make up most of my wins/losses regardless of whether or not I do well in bot lane
Vulf
AP nidalee can't carry games though. Maybe 1300> elo games, but after that no lol.
TKiller

Vulf wrote:

AP nidalee can't carry games though. Maybe 1300> elo games, but after that no lol.
Oh yes she can.
noneed_old

TKiller wrote:

Vulf wrote:

AP nidalee can't carry games though. Maybe 1300> elo games, but after that no lol.
Oh yes she can.
No she can't. Her level 1-5 is just horrible for trying to carry anything, and at level 6 you have to dodge all the kiting to get one e q combo off. She might move fast through the map but that still doesn't make her a good roamer since the only thing she brings to a gank is good damage which relies on a very long skillshot and is easily avoided and no cc at all. You can obviously carry games at lower elo with her but you can carry games at lower elo with basically anyone.
Playing her in any kind of higher elo is just a gamble and I only do it for fun. It doesn't matter how well you play, you won't carry a game alone with her: http://i.imgur.com/9xnVI.jpg
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tyrael6192
noneed_old
1. That's not ap nidalee, thats ad nidalee.
2. Those were all of his 1600-1800 games which is trash elo.
3. Abusing ad nidalee in solo q is way easier than trying to win with ap nidalee since you splitpush easier and solo q teams lack cordination.
Vulf
She actually got nerfed since they fixed the invisible spear bug a patch ago.

If you want to watch a good AP nidalee you should check out Bischu's(http://www.twitch.tv/bischulol) stream. He has even said it's hard to carry as her AP lol
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This game needs a Tennis hero.
Asada Shino

noneed wrote:

1. That's not ap nidalee, thats ad nidalee.
2. Those were all of his 1600-1800 games which is trash elo.
3. Abusing ad nidalee in solo q is way easier than trying to win with ap nidalee since you splitpush easier and solo q teams lack cordination.
Yup, it's much easier to carry as ad thanks to split pushing and her early levels can be really strong depending on the match up, I've gotten so many early first bloods because the lower elo bracket doesn't know how to deal with her bush control. AP is just scary in the hands of a good player who lands most of their spears.
those

Playing games like these makes me think that support Mundo is actually viable
Kanye West

noneed wrote:

1. That's not ap nidalee, thats ad nidalee.
2. Those were all of his 1600-1800 games which is trash elo.
3. Abusing ad nidalee in solo q is way easier than trying to win with ap nidalee since you splitpush easier and solo q teams lack cordination.
He definitely played AP Nid.
ouranhshc
is this build okay for lux?

Asada Shino

ouranhshc wrote:

is this build okay for lux?

You normally don't need gauntlet or wardens but seeing the enemy team I can see why you got those. Most of the time you should build heavy ap so you can instagib people with her qere combo
those

ouranhshc wrote:

is this build okay for lux?
Rylai's Crystal Scepter isn't really needed for Lux as she has an effective built in slow. Additionally, her light binding simply snares so movement speed is slowed 100%, and Rylai's doesn't proc with her W. Replace with Deathcap, probably; 2900 for 500HP and 80AP but not using the slow proc is not worth it.
Stefan


Props to Blitz. Not to Twitch.
Kanye West

ouranhshc wrote:

is this build okay for lux?

Go full AP, always stay in the back of the fight. d-rings, sorcs, dcap, void, hourglass, roa is meh, athene's is ok, lich bane is ok (synergy with passive), DFG is supposedly ok
Shiro
DFG isn't very useful for Lux, as she has a rather long-range burst, way above the range for SFG's active
Haseo_old


this was 3v5
YunoGaming

ouranhshc wrote:

is this build okay for lux?

avoid using clarity ...tp/ignite are a way better choice
tyrael6192
Yuno i need your pro advice on vayne

what if i rush zerkers with furor and zeal

what happens then
those
Then you attack fast and do small damage?
noneed_old
http://euw.leagueoflegends.com/tribunal/en/case/601690/
10/10 SYSTEM OMG RIOT PLEASE LET ME SUCK YOUR CREATIVE DICK WHICH COMES UP WITH GENIUS IDEAS INCLUDING LETTING A TOXIC COMMUNITY JUDGE TOXIC PLAYERS

Didn't get banned since this is my first warning in over 2 years but my honor got removed. Sent in a support ticket, shit's retarded only game 3 was punishable.
pielak213
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Justykanna
Speaking of reporting, I was told that you can report people for poor play.
... Does this really do anything?
Hearing that scared me a little seeing as I'm not a good player by any stretch. D=
pielak213
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Justykanna
Feeding = dying on purpose, no?
I don't die on purpose. Defeats the purpose of playing any form of game, just isn't fun.
Though I find it kinda stupid when people say to 'stop feeding' if you simply have a bad game (because everyone's perfect, right?). If people aren't dying on purpose, don't call out a feed, imo.

Maybe I should do some more research on my characters then.
That or I'm terrible with executing what I read / what I'm told.

Normal elo? Shows how much I know. I thought elo was only a ranked thing.
tyrael6192

Justykanna wrote:

Normal elo? Shows how much I know. I thought elo was only a ranked thing.
You have a hidden elo in normal games... that's why you get matched with people with over 2k wins sometimes when you only have 500, etc. Getting reported for unskilled is supposed to affect this, but is not a bannable offence.

those wrote:

Then you attack fast and do small damage?
yyyyy buUT if you max W you get the silver bolts proc and i was wondering if that's a viable way to build her early... I've seen people do it really well so I was curious
noneed_old
no, you need the q to reposition and dodge smaller skillshots. the lower cd it is on, the better. this is why bt>pd as 1st item on vayne when you can afford it. always.
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UnderminE
noneed, were you this active on forums before. It feels like I remember you from somewhere.
/non-related
GeeNX
Why everyday has to happen something bad to me on ranked? ;_; Yesterday my internet went away and I lost a won game with Draven and today wirh Ezreal 2 of my team were afk since start xDDD

Justykanna

tyrael6192 wrote:

You have a hidden elo in normal games... that's why you get matched with people with over 2k wins sometimes when you only have 500, etc. Getting reported for unskilled is supposed to affect this, but is not a bannable offence.
Noted.
tyrael6192
Vulf

noneed wrote:

http://euw.leagueoflegends.com/tribunal/en/case/601690/
10/10 SYSTEM OMG RIOT PLEASE LET ME SUCK YOUR CREATIVE DICK WHICH COMES UP WITH GENIUS IDEAS INCLUDING LETTING A TOXIC COMMUNITY JUDGE TOXIC PLAYERS

Didn't get banned since this is my first warning in over 2 years but my honor got removed. Sent in a support ticket, shit's retarded only game 3 was punishable.

I've seen people get banned for much less than this, and riot support probably won't get you very far with these kind of things. If you get reported enough even if it's troll reports you will end up in the tribunal and the auto punishers will get you.

I got a warning for trying to play roam annie, taric and sion awhile back in solo q. Trying to play something that's not the meta can get you banned despite what riots rules actually say.
noneed_old

UnderminE wrote:

noneed, were you this active on forums before. It feels like I remember you from somewhere.
/non-related
no, nowhere near this active, I was a newfag back then, literally. also took a break from osu! for league, but I am enjoying osu! to some content again so I decided to have a look at the forums too. good people.
Hayanh


good old times
i want my 2,2k elo back but rankeds so boring >.<
ReverseLight
2200 finaly bitchzzzzz)
GeeNX
You guys rise like nothing ;_; I was about reach 1600 when I lost 17 and won 3 xD now I am getting 1500 xD, I am practising AD , losing so many times lane phase ( need practiste it so much ) but pwning the other ad on teamfights, I really need practise lane phase, but on teamfights I move decent '-'
Haseo_old


just bought vi, need some help with proper build waaa
GeeNX
I dont like cdr boots, just tabi or mercurial, depending if they are full of cc, or AD team, or who's fed
Hayanh
tabi and bullwork would have been good.
just go fulltank and stick to their carrys
Haseo_old

GeeNX wrote:

I dont like cdr boots, just tabi or mercurial, depending if they are full of cc, or AD team, or who's fed
i liek cdr boots :3

Hayanh wrote:

tabi and bullwork would have been good.
just go fulltank and stick to their carrys
would getting frozen heart be a good idea?
South
mobil's > other boots

all day every day
ReverseLight
analitycmaster666))))
ReverseLight
and again 2200 >_<
wanna be 2300 and then 2400 and and top1 )))
Justykanna
One of these days I'll hit 30 and actually 'try' to get good...
GeeNX
ff so hard is for me winning rankeds but losing 3 in a row... on 1 hour ;_;
Hayanh

Haseo wrote:

GeeNX wrote:

I dont like cdr boots, just tabi or mercurial, depending if they are full of cc, or AD team, or who's fed
i liek cdr boots :3

Hayanh wrote:

tabi and bullwork would have been good.
just go fulltank and stick to their carrys
would getting frozen heart be a good idea?
if you have frozen fist, frozen heart isn't necessary,
and i rather have randuins omen, because you just ulti the ad carry and activate it.
ReverseLight
2300
so close =\
ReverseLight
i lied

WOOOHOOOOOOOOOo
tyrael6192
how do you always win everything with fizz it makes me so jealous
Shiro

ReverseLight wrote:

i lied

WOOOHOOOOOOOOOo
What server do you play on ? I can't see you in any of the tops.
GeeNX
ReverseLight godlike! I want have your babies, I was again 1500 and lost some in a row ;_;
tyrael6192

Shiro wrote:

ReverseLight wrote:

i lied

WOOOHOOOOOOOOOo
What server do you play on ? I can't see you in any of the tops.
he plays on euwest but the ladder for some reason doesnt show him



>season 2?
GeeNX


Well, he's that elo
tyrael6192
omfg ahha TurntheSlayer playing fizz mid right now against wickd, just saw it on wickd's stream

22k people watchin u man, and u just got a double kill can i be u pls
Shiro
he's playing in the same team as Wickd right now *watches*

ReverseLight you should stream

EDIT: calling Wickd a troll lol
Wickd: turn we need you don't be emo
don't think about it
turn we love you or maybe not

"random jax op" lol you even won the game why are you raging
ReverseLight
i cant stream because my pc is so weak.
i thinking about get top1 sell account and buy a good pc ))))

off lader is broken , many players doesnt show dunno why
going to be 2400 , hope i get in 1 weak )
GeeNX
I see stupid buying acc with high elo, well my friend won some money rising people from 1200 or 1100 to 1500/1600 xD
YunoGaming

ReverseLight wrote:

i cant stream because my pc is so weak.
i thinking about get top1 sell account and buy a good pc ))))
F lord too stronk...
South
3 losing streak OP. afraid to go play again :(
Liut
"MadLife is god HueHue" srsly this guy carried everygame at the ogn tournament even tho he plays support :? :?
noneed_old

Liutprando wrote:

even tho he plays support :? :?
implying the ad carry wins botlane
GeeNX

KingFloyd wrote:

3 losing streak OP. afraid to go play again :(
That happens to me a lot, when I am on fire winning a lot oh ohh, suddenly I lose on 1 hour like 3 xD I lose so fucking quick compared HOW MUCH I NEED TO WIN
South
losing streak is at 6 losses now, down about 70 elo
Yarissa


...I had to
GeeNX
^ LOL xD, the other day I saw a guy that just played hecarim and was pretty good o.o , on oce's stream
noneed_old
Bjergsen: "Urgh, who's playing the Kayle? Oh it's TurnTheSlayer, yea, he is a flamer, he flames a lot..."

Aw, thats sad bro, the times I played with bjergsen he was quite nice and played an amazing fiddle and lux support. So I don't think he talks shit or lies on stream. Flame less dude! Enjoy this shit game more
tyrael6192

noneed wrote:

Enjoy this shit game more
riot's campaign motto 2013
noneed_old

tyrael6192 wrote:

noneed wrote:

Enjoy this shit game more
riot's campaign motto 2013
it shouldn't be, you have great fun playing premades with your friends especially when you aren't taking it serious at all.
ranked on the other hand , especially at higher elo, is just filled with players who know each other and obv troll and dick around, not even looking for a somewhat competetive game and obviously the incredible small amount of players who actually just want a better rating like reverselight get frustrated over that. solo queue is just tocix, don't know how it is at lower elo but at higher it just that 1 guy tryharding like his live depends on the game and going verbally nuts while the rest just tries to have a fun time.
Shiro

noneed wrote:

it shouldn't be, you have great fun playing premades with your friends especially when you aren't taking it serious at all.
ranked on the other hand , especially at higher elo, is just filled with players who know each other and obv troll and dick around, not even looking for a somewhat competetive game and obviously the incredible small amount of players who actually just want a better rating like reverselight get frustrated over that. solo queue is just tocix, don't know how it is at lower elo but at higher it just that 1 guy tryharding like his live depends on the game and going verbally nuts while the rest just tries to have a fun time.
I so agree. I don't even play alone anymore because it's just too frustrating and absolutely not enjoyable, but playing with people I know makes the game incomparatively better. Just because we know one another and are just having fun. Sometimes shit happens, we lose etc, but hell it was just funny.
GeeNX
noneed give me lessons! xD

EDIT: I sometimes dont care losing games, I just have a lot of fun, totally truth
Keyboard Cat_old
league of legends op, draven op, im op
GeeNX
league of draven*
UnderminE
league of not draven, draaaaven*
GeeNX
Actually when you choose draven is

"Welcome to League of ....Draven"
UnderminE
jokes you know
GeeNX
Draven doesn't know jokes, he's overpowered, and he's one of the manliest in LoL
UnderminE


Jokes I said.
GeeNX
Ahri can charm him too easy.

I have serious doubts about this, Ahri charms with the heart by using E, or just by her boobs?
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